Red Pill TheoryIntroducing the "Leftovers": Formerly desirable women who are past their prime, and who now complain about being single and alone. (self.TheRedPill)

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This short essay talks about the complaining that women do when they're past their prime and still haven't found a suitable partner with whom to settle down and start a family. The essay offers nothing new to Red Pill veterans, but new members will find value in understanding how women behave when they're approaching the Wall.



A woman by the name of Jessica recently started a blog called "Twenty Nine and Terrified" to chronicle her life in search for Mr. Right. One of her blog posts is titled "Where Have All The Good Men Gone?", where she whines about still being single now that she's hitting the Wall.

Of all the women who complain about not finding a Good Man, the "Leftovers" are my personal favorite, because it's the moment you get to see Carol the Carousel Rider lose her undeserved status and privilege in the Sexual Marketplace that she squandered for the last decade, and all in her own words.

The term "Leftovers" was first used by the Chinese to refer to career-women who were still single in their late-20s. For our purposes here as it relates to Western women, it's the point in Carol's life where she realizes that she's no longer getting the attention and privilege in the Dating Market to which she was accustomed in her youth, and is now complaining about being single and alone.

When carousel riders approach age 30, they go through what Rollo Tomassi calls the "Epiphany Phase", where she realizes that her youth is declining and she still has not found a suitable partner with whom to settle down and start a family. In The Life Story of Carol I call this phase "Chasing Chad's Commitment". It is during this time that many Carols attempt to clean up their act by putting away the party lifestyle and emulating "good girl" qualities. They then seek provider-qualities in men such as financial stability and being a family man. But when the jerks she dates won't commit, and there are no high-SMV men willing to date her, Carol whines about her predicament and officially achieves Leftovers status.

A dead giveaway that Carol has become Leftovers is that she will be around 30, and complain about how dating is "harder" for her than it used to be, reminiscing about her carousel days and all the attention from men she used to get, and feeling left out of marriage and family that her peers enjoy. All of this implies she had plenty of time and opportunity to land a suitable partner for long-term commitment, but the jerks, bad boys and carousel took precedence, and she's now regretting the missed opportunities. Leftovers status also applies to single moms who learn that the men who once desired her have lost interest now that she has kids.

Women who are Leftovers are also the main ones who ask "Where have all the good men gone?", and they post relationship questions like: "I'm ~30, where can I find decent men for a serious relationship?" She often uses the cover story of "school" and "career" as reasons for not finding a man yet, but doesn't mention the decent men she rejected or friendzoned to get banged by jerks on the carousel. So this is her first time needing to ask these questions because years back the decent men were in abundance. In her prime, Carol was getting marriage proposals from good providers. Now what little attention she gets comes from jerks who just want sex, or much older men to whom she's not attracted.

But Carol exacerbates her dilemma by still Chasing Chad, aka Mr. Tall, Handsome, Charming and Rich, or what she calls "quality men". She still won't settle for the few Good Men willing to date her because her hypergamous nature says "I can do better", and because she still expects to find the same high caliber of men who wanted her back in her prime. But alas, the most desirable men have rejected her for younger women.



Attractive women often wait until they're hitting the Wall before they seek high-value men for long-term commitment. When she realizes that finding such men is harder for her now than back in her prime, she blogs about her woes. While Jessica remains optimistic that her unicorn is right around the corner, a few people have already given her a reality check about her situation. But "feelz come before realz", so don't be surprised if she's still blogging a few years later complaining about not finding Mr. Right.

In a future essay, I will discuss how to have no-strings attached sex with Leftover women. Working title: "Earth Girls In Their 30s Are Easy."

[–]2Dmva100 540 points541 points  (104 children)

Hopefully the nice guys who 'suddenly' get these post wallers attention just blow their load in their faces then never call back.

Women are like children of wealth who get a lump sum check at the age of 18. They blow through their inheritence and suddenly in their mid thirties they find out they are broke, but they still want the lifestyle they had when they were rich.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 129 points130 points  (0 children)

Really great analogy. Going to save it.

[–]yomo86 34 points35 points  (34 children)

Reduced libido from that of a perma-horny 14yo boy, after 25 is a relief in so many ways. It hits many men. Almost all are still susceptible to the BP but when you have abundance suddenly, many men reach an epiphany phase, as well. It is just more in the side of: Shit bitches love me, let me be bang anything.

Have you ever noticed? The problems, news articles included, of the perpetual man child starts around 32, not 14 or 22, or even 25; the traditional ages of becoming a man.

Men are then gaining traction in this world. He is riding the pussy roller-coaster now - somewhat depending on SMV. But your male 5 becomes with abundance, some work-out and a good chunk of disposable income and the lack of kids an 8 for post-wallers.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 41 points42 points  (22 children)

The problem is that beta bucks aren't actually wifing up and pedestalizing these post wall once-hotties because of their sexual drive. They are doing it out of ego and validation drive - they feel good when with the hot girl (even though she's not as hot now). Their concept of who they are is that they are the good guy who did the right thing, so they "get" the reward of marrying her whereas the other guys just got to sample her pussy for a night.

Men typically don't marry CC riders out of sheer attraction to her looks - they do it because all their life, all they have ever wanted was to fit in and be like all the other cool guys who had the hot girlfriend. Your ego and need for validation - or rather your need to be able to define who you are through what kind of partner you have - does not necessarily decrease as you age.

It decreases as you mature and gain life experiences / understand who you are, but most men in the western world don't get those maturing experiences.

[–]dzkkne 9 points10 points  (19 children)

Why don't these women, assuming post-wall is 30+, don't go for men 40+?

Logically, free men at that age would want to settle etc. However, I know from my personal observations that there aren't that many men in that age bracket who are still single, have no kids and not recently divorced.

[–]greenlittleman 7 points8 points  (16 children)

Why would it matter if he have kids, or divorced? This is natural for a guy of this age.

[–]dzkkne 5 points6 points  (15 children)

Think.. A guy who has been in a long marriage, recently divorced and already has kids to take care of is less likely to want to jump back in to commitment and go through the cycle again. I am not saying it's impossible, just less likely.

[–]greenlittleman 8 points9 points  (14 children)

A lot of 45+ men wants to have more kids, because their older kids either already adults (live by themselves) and/or staying with his ex wife. And most of them choose 30-35 years old women because they think girls in their twenties too young for them. Obviously 30 y.o. is much better than 45+ woman. Many men wants to fuck and/or create new family even after 50, if their health is good enough.

[–]Rhynovirus 2 points3 points  (6 children)

A lot of 45+ men wants to have more kids,

Show me one please? Most 45 year old divorced guys are focused on being good dads and avoiding the stupid mistakes of their past.

[–]banjew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Me. I already have children, don't mind having others if I ever found the right women.

[–]1Entropy-7 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Funny statistic is that divorced men are both the most likely to be incel and the most likely to be highly promiscuous.

[–]Rhynovirus 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Not surprised by either, but I was surprised by the assertion that men want more kids.

[–]greenlittleman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is some in comments already. Being a good dad? When in most cases your kids either already 20+ or living with your ex wife? Lol.

[–]1SeemedGood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is true. I wouldn't mind having another son or two. The counter to this desire is marriage and/or an LTR. Once one's eyes are fully open, it's awfully hard to rationalize that bag of paperclips into something one might wish to buy.

[–]1Entropy-7 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I don't know about more kids, but I'm 50 and my GF is 33 and we are never married and have no children. With only one exception (a former fashion model who looks 10 years younger, I met several years ago, and she lied about her age), all the serious girls have been in the 26 to 33 range. Any younger - these days - and they don't want kids yet, and any older then you are dealing with some severe fertility issues.

If I give up the ghost on having kids then it is "wide, open spaces" and age is simply a number.

[–]greenlittleman 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I've meant "be together", marriage by itself is a useless thing for any successful man. I'm agree with you about age, though in my country (Russia) most of the girls want kids starting from their early twenties.

But most of the older guys have limiting belief about "too young for me", and so they tend to end up with 30+ or 35+ women. Of course red pill guys can sleep with 18 y.o. girls even if they are themself 60. :D

[–]1Entropy-7 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I live in China and the Chinese guys always want 23 year olds. . .or at least chicks that look 23 years old.

I have a few stories on this.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Am 46. Am a good guy with a good income. Never want more kids, another marriage or serious relationship. Am all about the sex now.

[–]Rhynovirus 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Why don't these women, assuming post-wall is 30+, don't go for men 40+?

As a guy getting old enough to enter the world of post-wall women I can tell you they do go for us, we're just too smart to fall for their bullshit.

A Beta Buck is a Beta Buck at any age.

[–]unhealthy1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sex and the City syndrome created the perfect naive belief that they can CC ride until 40s and some rich dude will come in and sweep you off your feet.

[–]bornredd 15 points16 points  (10 children)

I wish my libido would drop, just a little bit. I am in my mid 30s.

7-10 times a week these days, and I am still a crazed beast. T levels are normal. I have always been this way since I hit puberty.

[–]bongohai 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Smoke more. You are too healthy.

[–]bornredd 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I smoke 3 cigarettes a day and a fair bit of grass. Still basically a walking erection.

[–]Troll_Name 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Alcohol is the real boner-killer, not that I would recommend it as a solution for anything.

[–]thassidus 10 points11 points  (3 children)

It's depressing to see men view a lowered sex drive as a "relief". If you are healthy and in your 20s and 30s, it's your mode of living, not age, that has diminished your drive.

[–]yomo86 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Compared to my teens yes it is a relief. Pussy is nice. A nice fuck is nice. But a nice fuck is hard to get. Mediocre sex is easy. But a book is also nice. So is lifting, so is meeting my bros. My point is sex is not my only life goal anymore.

[–]bornredd 2 points3 points  (1 child)

My drive hasn't dropped, that's the issue.

Wife and I have sex literally every day and median time is over 25 minutes from insertion to end. I don't have 2-4 hours a day to dedicate to fucking these days.

[–]1Entropy-7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ha ha: think about the single guys and whether they have time to merely chase pussy, with no certainly of outcome, for for an hour or two hours a day.

[–]FreeRadical5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Enjoy it. I had a ridiculously high sex drive my entire life. Only in my late 20s but it dropped off a cliff in the last year. At first I really enjoyed not thinking about sex all the time, not being phased by the hottest of girls, being able to focus fully on other interests, etc.

But now I am starting to miss it. It has taken a certain spark out of my life that I used to drive myself. It forced me certain goals and pleasures on me with a clarity that is a distant memory now. Overall I am probably more content but the highs aren't nearly as high.

And to make matters worse, it is wrecking havoc on my LTR.

[–]buddhadarko 41 points42 points  (1 child)

There are always a handful of post-wallers who are attractive enough to get laid, but they are far and few between when compared to the vast majority of them who are undesirable or only attract a certain type of guy. I've bagged a couple post-wall women and they are always grateful for the lay, and I get to put another notch under my MILF category. A few of them have tried to get into an LTR but it's never going to happen, at least not with me.

[–]1Entropy-7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Unless you are talking about the under-25 set (give or take), the vast majority of women are undesireable on one or more levels. Even in the prime 18-22 age range there are a lot of girls who are just not that attractive or have shitty personalities, or you can tell - perhaps instinctively or from meeting their mothers - that their looks are going downhill fast. Most guys will settle or hamster it - to get laid - or else those girls are just invisible if the guy sets his standards high but has no self-awareness (like many women do).

I've bagged a few in the 38 - 40 range who were really good looking and had great personalities but they were either a) single mothers who were financially independent (probably because of child support) but wanted to get laid, or else their ovaries were screaming at them but I was not in a financial position to settle down (and had the good sense to not risk fathering a mongoloid).

It seems that single women in their 30s are the most likely to lie about their age because they are at that tipping point.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Hopefully the nice guys who 'suddenly' get these post wallers attention just blow their load in their faces then never call back

Tricky because she's chasing commitment.

That means demanding ten dinner dates before a sad handjob. Betas don't get the "pump and dump" option because it's so expensive in terms of time and money to get to the pump stage. Alphas don't bother to stick around with her "make him wait" strategy - and this is what she's complaining about. She no longer gets to call the shots with attractive men.

Women are like children of wealth who get a lump sum check at the age of 18. They blow through their inheritence and suddenly in their mid thirties they find out they are broke, but they still want the lifestyle they had when they were rich.

Exactly. Meanwhile men's SMV is raising as they accumulate wealth, confidence, attractiveness and knowledge about women and their behaviour and long term value.

Male increasing awareness plus SMV plus her dropping SMV probably explains while the the crossover (wall) is so abrupt.

[–]Bear-With-Bit 35 points36 points  (1 child)

This is why many cultures had arranged marriages and dowry. The patriarchy system was a defense against this destructive hypergamy we see rampant today. They knew that women can't be trusted to make their own decisions when it comes to relations with men. How can "strong and independent" women in their 20s become "victims of a social construct" in their 30s?

[–]1SeemedGood 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The patriarchy system

Don't fall into that feminist claptrap. Who do you think arranged the marriages? Wasn't men (excepting the upper .1% in which case you married your daughters and sons for strategic alliances).

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 62 points63 points  (53 children)

Revenge fantasies are whats holding you back

[–]PaulAJK 50 points51 points  (10 children)

I just feel sympathy for these women. Going after the bad boys is what both society and their own biology encouraged them to do. In the past they would have had mothers who warned them of the risks, but that stuff died out decades ago.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 30 points31 points  (9 children)

Pity is normal, no one likes to watch someone sabotage themselves..

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I’m with venge on that, the amount of shooting in the own foot a divorced woman can do is astounding. And you’re kind of forced to watch. So you adapt and start to enjoy.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, that's not a revenge fantasy, that's specific...

Im more than happy to watch an enemy drown

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 27 points28 points  (6 children)

Rian I enjoy watching people screw up their lives by their own choices. Mostly because I lack empathy, but also because I'm a sadist to a great extent. Nobody was watching out for me when I fucked up, so I'll enjoy the schadenfreude while others fail. I have no problem giving post wall bitches a good fuck, nor do I have an aversion to fucking the young ones, I'm not keeping them so I'll enjoy them all.

I love seeing jealousy and that wistful angst people get when they realize they fucked up and I've achieved something they never contemplated, and will never manage themselves. It can be the fat 45 year old with the dad bod stuck in the pos crapbox his wife made him buy lusting after my vintage GTOs, our the 40+ girl seeing me with that 21 year old coed. Living well and doing what blows my hair back is my reward, and you're damn right I'll look at others who can't or won't and enjoy their failure

[–]2kevin32[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If that's the case then you will enjoy r-WhereAreAllTheGoodMen.

[–]YellowSoldier 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Yeah, wouldn't it better to meet a woman when you're both young and attractive and live fulfilling lives together, than to focus solely on accumulating resources and miss out on young love, then console yourself knowing that the women you missed out on before are all miserable now?

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes but the karma part is a lot of guys tried and they were to busy chasing chad. Now they want us and it is joyful seeing them miserable. Their fate is better than what they deserve. Stoning at the gate in public or burning at the stake is the traditional penalty for wayward women.

[–]1Entropy-7 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I met something of a unicorn when I was 23 and she was a bit younger (can't remember: 2, 3, 4?). It took a year for us to build on a friendship and have sexual attraction and then we went for another 3-1/2 years. The sticking point was me: I felt that I had not done enough and that a life with her - right then and thereafter - would have meant missing out on a lot of experiences, sexual and otherwise.

She finally dumped my ass just as I was coming around, and then was married to a BB accountant or something within the year, and they lived happily ever after in New England with two beautiful daughters who obviously got their looks from mum.

Is that better than my present life? I didn't focus on accumulating wealth but rather I focused on experiences.

25+ years on, am I happy? Fuck yes! Is she happy? I hope so. Would we have been have been happy together? Magic 8-Ball says fuzzy.

The now "standard model" is to meet someone where the guy is between one year younger to 3 years older and then get married in your late 20s. Statistically, it is the most common and - statistically - seems to pose the least risk of divorce.

The TRP model is to game but avoid LTRs while building your skills, wealth and game more and then finding an 18-20 something, or just say "fuck it, spin plates".

[–]YellowSoldier 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If she was four years old, then that's more than a bit younger.

In all seriousness tho, more men on their deathbeds regret letting go of "the one" than not having enough sex with different women. But I can understand the frustration when you're young and at peak testosterone. I hope your experiences make up for that potential relationship. It's fucked up that we have completely different priorities at different parts of life, and the years connecting fun, adventurous youth with stable, family-oriented old age isn't one most of us can successfully bridge.

And you're right, you can't know if the two of you would have been happy together. You could have dodged a bullet for a lot of different reasons, but there's no point in dwelling on something you can't change.

[–]1Entropy-7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I personally don't live with regrets but history is etched in stone and given that I write sci-fi I do contemplate possibilities.

[–]yomo86 18 points19 points  (10 children)

Yes and no. The reality is, women lose rapidly their SMV coin after 30 as a rule of thumb. And they are desperately either trying to fix the system, rationalize it, or blame it on somebody. This is a very typical occurrence of a career woman having not found a suitable Chad.

[–]magnificent18 2 points3 points  (6 children)

what do you think of the future where people are living a healthier lifestyle and taking care of themselves? Hitting the wall might get extended into the 40's.

[–]Rooibosisboss 12 points13 points  (3 children)

there will always be the "healthy ones" and the "unhealthy ones" it just may be different vices. I don't see it extending into the 40's even if they are "healthy". wrinkles, droopage, etc, will still happen. they will only look better relative to ones worse than they.

Same thing even for healthy guys; wrinkles, grizzled, gruff, etc. it just happens that those things can actually make you look better if you also stay healthy.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Fuck this makes me glad to be a male. As long as you stay fit and muscular and healthy, those signs of aging don't hurt you nearly as much as they hurt women, and they can even help you until 55+.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yep. To be an older man in great shape is a indicator of good genes.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[Masculine] Genetic cues are trumped by behavioral cues six ways from Sunday.

Advantage: men.

[–]yomo86 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't know. This is just armchair biology but I think 30 will always be the norm. Looks aside, men know subconciesly that a 30+ woman will not be as likely to create healthy life or life at all hence rendering provisioning and the reward for taking risks mute. Anecdotical evidence: China. 25 is the pre-set society wide wall. And the girls still do look hot sometimes and there is an over-abundance of men still those spinsters won't find a suitable partner

[–]AllahHatesFags 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it will be technology that will do this more than anything; there are already things that you can take to slow down at least some parts of the aging process, with more coming online as time goes on until biological immortality becomes the norm (hopefully in my lifetime). It will get surreal when nobody looks a day older than 25 and these bitches get an n-count into the tens of thousands.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't care about the woman in this.

This isn't about that, see the reference below. Guys swapping notes is TRP.

theres a note.

[–]K_J_K 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see women mostly blaming others for their "misfortune", but that's just my experience.

[–]1Entropy-7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The signs kick in at about 28: they start to act down-right kooky. This is particularly so if their friends are getting married and having babies.

I've had different relationships with "career women" but I don't have mental telepathy and discussing these sorts of things was just not on the table.

We are on the outside looking in unless you are faux-feminist, or the gay friend.

I can't read minds but from observation - mostly first hand - "career women" can be not-so-good-looking and so immerse themselves in their career and then guys like me just say no because I don't really care about her career, but I want a pretty wife. Alternative 2 is that pretty women immerse themselves in their career and then they just say no to guys like me because I don't out-earn them by a significant margin: many will fuck me, but that is it.

I really have no idea if they blame anyone. The ones who have a certain combination of looks and success don't seem to have problems landing a hubby.

[–]Tzeentch_Gnosis 6 points7 points  (3 children)

No. She has very little left. You could LTR till it's gone but it's better for you to let her cash out a long term luck.

Many women who are smart enough to know the trade off very early like 19 or 20 still may choose uni-dimensional focus on career and what is called carousel riding, it's a shame when they regret it later anyways.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 6 points7 points  (2 children)

They only regret it because it's over. If they never experienced it they would regret that.

[–]Tzeentch_Gnosis 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I mean they give up on marriage.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only if you let them. I use the possibility for them as a carrot to help me push and motivate myself.

[–]slumdog-millionaire 1 points1 points [recovered]

Revenge fantasies are whats holding you back

Whats funny about this is that when I commented on previous posts saying I relish seeing a bitch fall from grace some wanna be tough guy comes along and makes it about being angry or in the "anger phase".

Anger is one of the shared experiences that brought us all to this subbreddit. Whats more anger and desire for revenge can be powerful motivators. Revenge is a common desire, nothing wrong with it as long as it doesnt consume or define you.

And I dont think realistically that anger can ever be completely abolished, remnants will remain. You just learn how to not act on it. So I disagree wit you pretty vehemently and where youre coming from

Theres some satisfaction in revenge in this post and its observations and theres nothing wrong with that

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (9 children)

Wanting revenge is a common emotion

dude, thats not an emotion.

anger is an emotion.

thats a feeling of being vindicated. very good for giving your ego a little boost.

[–]slumdog-millionaire 1 points1 points [recovered]

sure, common desire in that case not emotion.

[–]king-of-the-jungle 1 points1 points [recovered]

Hopefully the nice guys who 'suddenly' get these post wallers attention just blow their load in their faces then never call back.

point is this whole thread is about revenge

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

the best revenge is living well.

Blowing loads on/in post wall hags is not living well.

[–]slumdog-millionaire 1 points1 points [recovered]

I dont think you understand whats being said no one said anything about fucking post wall women. What were talking about is seeing someone get what is coming to them

and everyone knows that living well is the best revenge, this is not about men so much as it is about women and thats what OPs post is about

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

This is what I was talking about:

[–]Dmva100 95 points 3 hours ago Hopefully the nice guys who 'suddenly' get these post wallers attention just blow their load in their faces then never call back.

[–]slumdog-millionaire 1 points1 points [recovered]

30 year old pussy isnt necessarily bad, and sure quality is important but not every cut has to be A5 wagyu beef, like the stuff that costs $100 per pound. Quantity is good too as long as its at least average or above, Ive seen some attractive women in their 30s

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

not at all .

the point I am making is - if you are going to go find girls to blow your load on, find younger prettier girls. They are out there, and they don't mind

[–]therighttobecool 6 points7 points  (1 child)

And the court delivers the life they always had by taking money out of some chump's bank.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That dude should close his bank account

[–]greenlittleman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And they can have such a lifestyle if they looks good enough and hit on guys who are 45+, because large part of them have some beliefs limitations for 20-25 years old girls. If woman in 35 looks better than average girl in her twenties, then she would have more than enough chances to find herself a good man. Those "leftovers" who are whine, in most cases, too fat or ugly to be attractive even for 50+ y.o. guys.

[–]jackandjill22 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I wish guys had as much sense as you're saying. I've seen it. There's always a Beta, somewhere.

[–]PokeyTifu99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spot on man. I'm in my thirties and I couldn't tell you how many attractive women from my past who are still single today. Most of them complaining about life and how they can't find "good" men lmao.

[–]shneakypete 1 points1 points [recovered]

I think an important thing to highlight is a good looking girl under the age of 25 and under is at the peak of her SMV. After that it just starts going downhill. Highschool boys perhaps have the lowest SMV's but they can accumulate value and keep it until the age of 55 or so. Pretty much all their lives women are used to being bombarded by male suitors while the men have to "hunt" and develop skills for attaining mates. This means that women have no skill to get a male since they never needed it. When they get to their mid twenties and their SMV goes down they have no idea what's going on. Meanwhile men either hone their skills and become good "hunters" or just live life in crippling fear of rejection.

[–]eccentricrealist 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Women age like milk, men age like wine.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I like to think women age like cars. Most are worth 25% less the moment you buy, a few will be collector's items in 40 years, but the vast majority will just be rust buckets.

[–]MrInternetDetective 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is a perfect write up, thank you.

[–]22Luika 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's sums up everything. Thank you. Saved forever.

[–]MadDoe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Saved. Really put a good perspective.

[–]heyanonboy 79 points80 points  (15 children)

In Japan we call them leftover Christmas cakes. No one wants a Christmas cake after Christmas. No matter how cheap. [Edited No to In]

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 12 points13 points  (10 children)

What exactly is Christmas cake?

[–]heyanonboy 33 points34 points  (8 children)

In Japan we celebrate Christmas by eating KFC and Christmas Cake. Bakeries and supermarkets make these cakes specifically for Christmas. They sell for ¥2000~¥10,000+ until Christmas but the day after they don't even try to sell them because they're essentially worthless.

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Yeah, but what exactly is the cake like, like a sort of sponge cake?

[–]heyanonboy 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Depends really.

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 1 point2 points  (1 child)

ah, so basically a mega sugar fix

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I'm surprised there's a Christmas culture in Japan

[–]Timewasting14 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A dense fruit cake that's been soaked in rum or brandy and aged. Not my favorite but old people love it

[–]adr007 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Basically nobody wants Christmas cakes after the 25th

[–]lordkrink 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I want a christmas cake right now

[–][deleted] 73 points74 points  (9 children)

That "Twenty Nine and Terrified" woman's update posts are hilarious. She thinks she just has to find the secret hide out and good men will just throw themselves at her.

[–]BewareTheOldMan 82 points83 points  (8 children)

This is one of my posts from an earlier Discussion thread, but seems appropriate for this topic:

The underlying and principal concern for these women is they waited TOO LATE in life to find a good man and all of a sudden between the "magical ages of 27-30" they want and need a Good/Nice Man to settle down with for marriage. The insult is that many of these women started having sex at ages 14/15/16 and been going hard for almost ten years with NUMEROUS SEXUAL PARTNERS. These women are emotionally damaged and are some of the WORST CANDIDATES for marriage. The word is getting out to many men to AVOID these used up, stalled out, and "passed-around" women.

Their point of frustration is not finding a good man despite the fact they had Good Men interested in marriage when they were much younger, prettier, child-free, and 30-45 pounds lighter in their youth. They instinctively know they already wasted most of their best chances at finding a great husband.

The sad reality is there are TOO MANY of these women who bring the following issues: Someone else's kid(s), obesity/disgusting bodies, financial issues/debt, entitlement issues, no marketable job skills/certifications, "masculine energy," lack/zero interest in homemaking skills (cooking/cleaning/doing laundry) because it's "oppressive" and...because of feminist mentality, misogyny, and perceived victimhood. They are ALL looking for some chump to worship them and accept their situations/baggage WITHOUT judgment or hesitation.

In short - these women don't deserve happiness. They traded their best years for the Bad Boys/Pretty Boys/Douchebags/Low-Life losers.

It's sad really - women have to make choices early in life, with many choosing "fun and frolic" over mature and loving relationships.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

TOO MANY of these women who bring the following issues: Someone else's kid(s), obesity/disgusting bodies, financial issues/debt, entitlement issues, no marketable job skills/certifications, "masculine energy," lack/zero interest in homemaking skills (cooking/cleaning/doing laundry) because it's "oppressive" and...because of feminist mentality, misogyny, and perceived victimhood.

this. and to make matters worse, women offer nothing but sex and reproduction to men. feminists convinced women to ignore development of homemaking skills... <1% of millennial women even know how to cook a decent meal (literally every human i know who is a "good cook" is a male... even the restaurant industry is dominated by male chefs). because of hypergamy, she's still dating up or across, meaning the guys she will date don't need her money. and i haven't even gotten to the baggage issues that make her negative value (single mother, unhealthy, divorce, debt, high n-count, broken family, hysterical behavior).

when she's hitting the wall, her reproduction value bottoms out too. there's just not enough time to really get to know a woman and have babies before "advanced maternal age" even if she doesn't have baggage problems.

even friendship can't build... most women have no hobbies or interests of their own other than work, wine, netflix, and maybe yoga... you can't have common interests with someone who has no interests.

this leaves a woman who has no value to men other than a warm hole to pump and dump.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Women not having hobbies is ok. They are water, we're the cup. They are made to be helpers to the mission we're on.

[–]all4gibs 21 points22 points  (0 children)

you’re right, and media/hollywood/western culture propagates this bullshit

[–]doladolabillyall 7 points8 points  (1 child)

These women are emotionally damaged

Or emotionally absent. Regarding sociopathy, numerous sexual partners (talking in the hundreds easily) is a sign/symptom. Actually, I would be far more concerned if they are somewhat emotionally absent (lack empathy). As they certainly will get a divorce, and ruin the whole family that the man had spend his time building.

In short - these women don't deserve happiness. They traded their best years for the Bad Boys/Pretty Boys/Douchebags/Low-Life losers.

It has nothing to do with it being deserved. It's just a fact of the matter, a logical one (they merely waited too long, for whatever reason). Never be spiteful/petty and talk about them deserving unhappiness, that just puts you on their level or under it (by resenting them, it still gives them power over you). That's what women and man children do. That's like tabloid gossip level shit.

[–]BewareTheOldMan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Never be spiteful/petty and talk about them deserving unhappiness...

The overarching message via mainstream media, magazines, social media, women's groups, and society in general is that women deserve/feel deserving of the best of everything life, despite the fact they may offer very little in return. This specifically includes access to the very best/high value men despite (these same women) making numerous mistakes early in life that would disqualify access. Men in general do NOT have such luxuries.

When I talk to other women, I remind them that men are required to earn their status, reputation, wealth, etc.. I discuss (with women) their missed opportunities, disregarding good men early in life, failure to plan/prepare, too many sexual partners, etc.

This gets mentioned quite a bit on TRP whereby women are granted access/special privileges with little to no effort.

It's the same/similar conversation I have with men as well. The difference is that men see their errors, accept advice, and self-correct. Not always, however, I've seen some men ignore sage and truly helpful advice.

It's not their fault. I don't blame women. Whereas men have to earn their place in society, the same SHOULD ring true for women. Unfortunately, that's not how it plays out at ground level/real-life.

Short story - I was once in conversation with a senior-level supervisor. We talked business and later engaged low-level/semi-personal conversation. Somewhere I mentioned that "I deserved/was owed something/" due to my hard work.

He immediately responded with "No one OWES you anything except a paycheck for your work and outstanding leadership/advice (from leaders to perform better for the organization)."

I understood and self-corrected. I suspect, however, that conversation may result in a different outcome/perspective if that same advice was relayed to a woman who espouses entitlement.

I concede the point. Great advice. Pro-Tip indeed...

[–]SilverGryphon 94 points95 points  (27 children)

I'm sure that there are plenty of men in their 30's who would like to settle down with a woman of a similar age. Their problem is that they still believe that they can get high SMV men even after they have crashed into the wall. I tried to hit on a few women whom are in their 30's, as I am also in my 30's, but guess what? they continuously turn me down and keep telling me that "I'm not their type"

Apparently the only men who are good enough for them have to be tall, shredded, handsome and rich. It's a complete and utter lie that there are no good willed men out there who are willing to settle down with them. They just simply refuse to date anyone who has an SMV below 7, even as they begin to age.

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (17 children)

College educated women need to get off their high horses regarding occupation. My advice to most educated women in their 30's looking to settle down is to look hard at tradesmen.

[–]SilverGryphon 52 points53 points  (10 children)

I'm educated to a Master's level in engineering, I have my own car and I have my own place with a low mortgage as I was able to buy 30% of it with cash. Yet, I'm still not good enough for these women. Tradesmen won't stand a chance in dating these women unless they are chads looking for a one night stand. But chads don't bang post wall women.

[–]red_matrix 44 points45 points  (0 children)

But chads don't bang post wall women.

If they are good looking they will still get laid. I had a fling-thing going for a while with a 35 year old yoga instructor that had a tighter and better body than most 25 year olds. The post-wall pool has some gold nugggets that work great for casual fun.

[–]buddhadarko 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Chads DO bang post-wall women, but there's not enough of those Chads willing to do so. The post-wall women would have to be the upper echelon/in shape, no kids, etc. So, these post-wallers are always holding out, waiting for the Chad they think they deserve and that they can actually get, but it's rare.

[–]Redacto 8 points9 points  (3 children)

The Chads will bang them, but only bang them. Post wall women are looking for commitment... they are running out of time... they think...but in reality, they are already out of time for getting commitment from the quality of men they think they deserve.

The problem is that they are adjusting their expectations behind the the curve. They are searching for 9’s when they should be looking at 8’s. Now they are 35 and looking at 8’s, but can only get 7’s.

Last weekend I was at a big birthday lunch and sitting next to a 36 year old single woman and she was complaining about this. This girl was probably an HB9 or HB8 in her 20’s. She was telling me that “at this point, I’m just looking for a man, any man, that isn’t married and speaks English.” All she is getting is offers to be a married man’s side piece.

EDIT: spelling of piece.

[–]DodgedAFew 7 points8 points  (1 child)

"any man" = "has a job, not an addict, not crippled, not heavily in debt, willing to have children 'some day'" etc.

[–]Redacto 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yup. Probably also means "white collar" but she wouldn't admit to that in the setting we were in.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

stick w college girls homeboy

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah, you are but they don't, new crop every year.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 30 points31 points  (1 child)

A divorced tradesman with kids and child support is about the best they can do. Better move on them quick ladies, before MGTOW finds them.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Most educated women are fucked because the tradesmen already got married. The less education a man has the earlier he marries; income comes in and he doesn't have to service the debt

[–]AnotherGypsy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They don't because they see their education as value that the lowly uneducated worker can't reach.

[–]BewareTheOldMan 59 points60 points  (1 child)

I tried to hit on a few women...in their 30's, as I am also in my 30's, but...they continuously turn me down and keep telling me that "I'm not their type"

Don't waste time with women in your age-group.

At least they're honest in they readily admit lack of interest instead of leading you on with false promises/holding sex and relationship "for ransom." Anyway – these women come with too much emotional baggage from chasing "Chad/Tyrone/Carlos."

Date younger - eight to ten years younger. If you're doing well financially, have good game, and demonstrate confidence and maturity, this is a better pool of women. Apply TRP Principles in properly vetting for a good, honest, loyal woman of character and integrity.

…there are plenty of men in their 30's who would like to settle down with a woman of a similar age…

Settling with these women is a mistake. The man is almost always serous about relationships, marriage, kids, and family whereas women who are past their prime years are "just settling" because the men they REALLY want DON'T WANT THEM.

Don't get caught up with them "settling" for you. These women will ALWAYS resent you for not getting their "first choice" and will divorce, take the kids, and as much of your wealth as possible.

You've worked too hard to allow that to happen.

A woman has to be motivated to be with you, attracted to you, and EARN her position in your life EVERY DAY.

[–]doladolabillyall 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Don't get caught up with them "settling" for you. These women will ALWAYS resent you for not getting their "first choice" and will divorce, take the kids, and as much of your wealth as possible.

Yes this is so fucking true.

[–]majorbollocks 37 points38 points  (2 children)

This. Also, beware the provider hunter who jumps into bed with you very early on but eventually starts to ration the sex to condition you into a beta husband. I'm dealing with one right now and it's hilarious. Time to move on i guess

[–]red_matrix 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Slow fade then add to the stack of plates.

[–]SuperCrazy07 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really? Almost every half decent (i.e. desirable) guy I know was married by 30 (yeah, yeah I know).

But, my point is I don't know that any of them, if divorced, would have started a new relationship with someone of "similar" age. Unless you mean like 38 and 31 are both in their 30s.

[–]LavaPipe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep on improving then homie. Then when you are the shredded rich chad you’ll be the one doing the rejecting

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 44 points45 points  (3 children)

I love how she talks about "hard to find a man I want to see twice". Somehow fucking and chucking a man after two dates makes her the victim.

[–]chim_city 14 points15 points  (2 children)

A guy is only going to commit to someone he can respect. He will not respect a fuck and chuck

[–]Ananonguy88 56 points57 points  (12 children)

I haven't even read this and I can say that was my latest plate. 9/10 29yo with a cat. She was still acting high and mighty expecting to be "treated like a princess" and "spoiled".

She used to date 180cm men with sorts cars and full account before me and she would always complain that she has to reduce her standards now (for me).

It was so worth to see her face when this lower standard guy told her to get lost and no for settling down with "a nice guy" since he can get better than her.

Aiming for younger chiks now.

[–]physicalbitcoin 13 points14 points  (0 children)

She used to date 180cm men with sorts cars and full account before me and she would always complain that she has to reduce her standards now (for me).

She said that to your face? lol. Glad you got out of there.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

5'11" isn't that tall. Sports cars isn't a big deal. In the US I see LOTS of people making 30-60k gross with sports cars. Now they're living month to month but...

...the hard part is finding somebody that CAN actually afford nice things while saving 20% or more of their gross income for retirement. Like 100k or more for gross income. Even most men who make the top ten percentile of income (105k gross) don't know how to manage money. Regardless they don't learn this until marriage.

[–]reecewagner 20 points21 points  (9 children)

She used to date 180cm men

Lol where on this planet are you

[–]Mellyanish 1 points1 points [recovered]

Apparently 6 foot tall is 182.88 cm, which they round to 180cm....which is only 5'10.9". So in metric areas, their standards are lower by 1.1"

[–]Alex24d 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Lol that's so true. 180 cm in Europe is a cutting height from manlet to a man as 6'0 in the US

[–]Reformed65 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You guys are way overthinking this.

[–]Mellyanish 1 points1 points [recovered]

No gray area?

In the US, women all say they want a man over 6'.

But under 6' is not manlet. That would have to be under 5'6" or so.

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (3 children)

Rabbit holes everywhere here! Nice work.

Good to know that there will be women to fuck in my 50's & 60's! Unless I'm rich enough for sugar babies. It will be important to stay in great shape.....but this is great news for the future.

I'll stick with the women in their 20's as long as I can.....I'm not yet older than most of their dads, which evidently is where many women draw the line.

[–]1atticusfinch1973 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Many of them will happily call you daddy and sleep with you anyway.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Here's hoping so......

If you can call working out like a fiend "hoping."

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 42 points43 points  (2 children)

I wish more posters would put this much time providing links like footnotes to support your points. Nice work on the technical aspect of Reddit. While the substance is old news, I still love me a good revenge porn piece.

[–]2kevin32[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I've updated the summary to reflect that this essay is meant for new members to TRP. A future essay will discuss how to have no-strings attached sex with Leftover women.

[–]Ganaria_Gente 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really love your archive links and great formatting.

[–]grewapair 19 points20 points  (8 children)

My experience with women over thirty is very different from TRP idea of an epiphany phase.

About 10% of the women have a very strong mother who forces them off the CC and into motherhood. These women are basically ordered by their moms to find a provider. There's no epiphany with them, mom says stop it and they do.

Another 40% see these ten percent getting married and then decide they need to get married too. The top 80% of men won't commit, so they move down, NOT BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY AREN'T HOT but because they have a need the top 20% of men won't fill.

This is very different from an "epiphany", which I can assure you NO WOMAN hits until late 50s. They think they are as hot as they were in their 20s but the best men won't commit. The problem is the MEN, not them.

Then you have the remaining post 30 year olds who are out there expecting men to treat them like they did in their 20s. NONE of these women will have anything resembling an epiphany. They will ask where all the good men have gone until the evidence is simply overwhelming, age 57 or so. ONLY then will they think it has even the remotest thing to do with them.

You make the mistake of dating a post wall woman only once. The price is the same and very frequently higher, but the payoff is lower. TOTAL. WASTE. OF. TIME.

[–]SuperCrazy07 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That's an interesting point. I don't know that the epiphany is "I'm not as hot as I used to be and it only gets worse" so much as "There aren't many good men in general, most are taken, and I need a baby now."

I know several married women in their 40s. They got married young, so never had to experience the wall in a brutally direct fashion. They continue to genuinely think they're hot and have respected careers and, if they weren't married, would get tons of men because men their age aren't into immature little girls.

That's where you quietly just back out of the room saying nothing.

[–]unhealthy1 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Im sorry. this hit right at home. I have to comment on this one.

I am currently separated and the self delusion is pretty high in women. My ex is pushing 35 and looks 5 yrs older with her glasses on and i even saw on her phone, her looking up "elite men" or how to get "shredded hot men at any age", even though she has low fertility, hitting 35 very soon, looks run down, no time for relationship. Works 80 hrs per week. Even when their own family says "they are the problem" and their friends say they are the problem their hamster runs 10,000 and they rationalize themselves out of it. They watch bullshit reality TV shows where older hags somehow land dream men and get married (99 percent divorced less than 1 yr later-somehow they manage to overlook this fact). What i am experiencing with career women is that they expect to (no entitled to!) have a shredded guy (im pretty good looking as well), sports car, house, money in the bank, pay off their student loans (primary reason why im leaving, wife expects me to pay her 300k debt! in order to have kids....wtf).. Even if you check off most boxes for them, they always think to themselves" i can always do better" mentality.

This my friends is the mentality of the american women. (not all, but a large swath) I can tell you this, if I discovered the redpill years earlier i would not be in this position.

And believe me, I am now being threatened with jeopardizing her survival just for threatening to throw her out even though she makes more than me! and I paid all the rent. go figure!

To say many american women are interested in children is a joke. Who risks autism by having kids post 35 and then declares they are all for having healthy children.

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 4 points5 points  (0 children)

(primary reason why im leaving, wife expects me to pay her 300k debt! in order to have kids....wtf)

jesus christ thats horrifying

[–]coco5440 26 points27 points  (2 children)

As a guy in my early 50s this type of woman is a great target. By the time she's in her mid-thirties guys like me (i.e. decent job and still physically OK) start looking pretty good.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Lift like your life depends on it, right?

Also, if you're not looking to get married, that's a good age gap.....age gaps are good for fending off commitment. At my age, 45, a woman of 35 could hamster away a 10 year gap....at your age, say 53, that's 18 years, a much bigger deal.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The hamster of the girls he is banging are not the ones that need to hamster it away. He is in charge, despite- or because of- the 18 year age gap.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

God, that OkCupid Reddit thread is like a drink of fresh water.

I wish I could upvote every one of those replies in there. OP basically OD'd on redpill.

[–]1TheDreadnought1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That thread got me at the guy saying some RP truths and then saying

I'm a human not a red piller


[–]physicalbitcoin 7 points8 points  (6 children)

In a future essay, I will be writing about how to have no-strings attached sex with Leftover women.

I find it harder to set up dates with over 30s women. Like, 10 minutes to set up a date with a 21 year old, vs 2-10 hours for a 31 year old. Its a hassle. Interested in any tips you had. But on the other hand, why should I waste my time with their neuroses? lol.

Women can stay lush and attractive well into their thirties if they;

  • 1) Eat well

  • 2) Do a lot of yoga and leg/ab work.

  • 3) Get over their spoilt attitude and psychological issues.

Hot 30s women are out there: I was at the buffet the other month and saw a stunning women of about 35. Lush skin, sporty body... When I was in university, I had a massive crush on my Spanish teacher. She was 37. I knew other women in their late thirties in London, sleeping with hot young men, cos they looked after their bodies and walked into their power.

Unfortunately, most women don't put the physical gym work in, so they get pushed off the carousel. If I was a woman, I'd become a yoga teacher. That's as alpha female as you can get.

[–]1SeemedGood 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hot 30s women are out there:

This is true. However, they often come with extra helpings of low quality attributes - almost by definition as they are still single for reasons that typically boil down to more solipsistic and less introspective.

[–]therighttobecool 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Where have all the good women gone? Do they even exist?

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Can't wait for the follow up, "35 and miserable", when she ends up forcing herself to settle for Billy Beta because its either that or have no kids.

She blogs about how miserable she is and how much she repulses her husband, how she truly never loved him, and how she obligates herself against every fiber of her being to give Billy once every 3 months starfish sex to get him off her back. How she believes that she can do better than Billy if she just musters up the courage and willpower to divorce him. Billy is holding her back from truly finding her Prince Chadding.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Even better when she starts fertility treatments to gain the hope of having children. Or she ends up becoming lesbian and getting pregnant using frozen sperm and eggs and has an autistic child.

Sounds wonderful!

[–]LewisCross 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The entire post needs a good fisking, really.

Here's her post in its entirety, with my comments in text.

Here's "Jessi" (Nice post-wall millennial name, no?):

I have been single for the past nine months. Before that brief relationship nine months ago, I had been single for about two years. That is a long time to be alone right?

Kind of typical, really. "Relationship" that probably ended when she started making marriage demands and he balked. And before that, "single" (i.e. getting pumped and dumped, having flings and STRs, going in fits and starts with hot men who didn't want to get serious).

I take complete responsibility for that extended period of “singledome.”

Sure you do. Excuses follow:

I was finding a new job and really I was finding myself again.

I had just moved to a new town, meeting and fucking new guys. "Finding myself" is a euphemism for "sexual exploration", which is itself a euphemism for "having a lot of hot sex with a lot of different hot men".

I was not feeling confident or content with my life and I was scrambling to figure that out before I brought anyone else into my life.

Translation: I was looking for a man to marry me, and couldn't find one, and still can't.

My beeeautiful friend whom I shall call Em, is single as well. She has a far different dating life from mine. No two year treks of singleness for Em. Em hasn’t been lucky in love yet either, but perhaps she is more lucky in love than I am. She does at least meet men she wants to see more than twice. One thing I should mention is that Em isn’t exactly “looking” to meet anyone at this very moment.

Em is my slutty friend, who I love to hang out with because she's sooooo much fun. She's kind of fucked up, but that's what makes her sooooo much fun.

Ok Em, ok.

Hehe I'd like to make believe I've grown out of this, but I haven't.

Being single in your (very) late twenties is hard. A couple of months ago we went to a minor league baseball game, after a lot of rambunctious cheering I received a ball from a player with his phone number. Never one to turn down a baseball player, wink wink I text him and we all met up with him and his friends at a nearby bar. The night was long, hilarious and made absolutely no improvement to my love life. This brings me to problem number one of dating in your late twenties.

It's hard being attracted to guys who just want to fuck me and don't want to marry me. That MiLB baseball player was HAWT. We hooked up that night and he fucked the ever loving shit out of me . I don't even remember his name, but the sex was WORTH IT. OMG was it SOOOO worth it. But we're not going to talk about that cuz back to my wanting to get married. Except for fucking hot baseball players.

You are no longer 24. Being 24 and being 29 are vastly different. At 24 I was young, naive, full of hope and open to all possibilities. Cute and funny guy with no real job, ehh he’ll get one! At 29 I am cynical, low on patience and know exactly what I want.

TRanslation: Fucking that MiLB baseballer was fun and I'd do it again, but shit, I need something MORE. I know what I want and am just deluded enough to think I can get it.

Problem number two…

You are over meeting men at bars. Remember when you wore tight skirts and four inch heels every night to impress a bunch of men at a bar that were really only trying to sleep with you? Long gone are those days. It’s a win if you fix your hair at 29. Meeting the same intoxicated, over confident bachelors has lost its appeal. Not to mention there is still a crowd of 22 year old girls with tight skirts and perfect contouring at these bars. Who has time to compete with that? You work FULL time at a job you probably hate no less.

I am just not as hot as these younger girls anymore, I KNOW it, and it scares the FUCK out of me. What am I gonna do!? I can't get hot guys anymore. I'm going to have to settle for a less attractive guy with a good job. Fuuuuuuuuck......

Problem number three…

You don’t have the energy you did when you were younger. It used to be easy to hit four social events in one weekend. But between work, the gym, sleeping and running errands you are struggling to make it to one now. Being a grown up is no joke! There is so much to get done all the time. You don’t want to spend valuable hours sitting at a restaurant, hoping an attractive man will walk through those doors and sweep you off your feet. You want to know where these men are going to be dang it!

Wow, this adulting thing is hard. I really have to grow up! Life isn't the neverending fun times the TV shows promised. Those attractive men aren't around anymore... Plus, I can hear that bio-clock roaring....



She just doesn’t know it yet.

Yup. We want hot guys. We just want them to marry us (not gonna happen)

I believe other women are feeling the way Em and I feel. So, I have decided to help you all out.

I am a complete failure, but I'm going to show you how to succeed at something I have completely fucked up and ruined.

I am going to do a lot of research and work for you. I have already read too many articles to count today on the best places to meet single men. Good single men. In addition to the research articles I found on the web, I have collected data on places and events good men go to. Basically, I just asked good men. They know where they go better than anyone right?

HAHAHAHA You asked "good" men? You asked men who are even less successful than you are.

Over the next 90 days I am going to attend said events and places and make a genuine effort to connect with good men!

And you will fail. Because you are attracted to men who want to fuck you and whom you want to fuck (and you'll end up fucking a few of them and getting disappointed - AGAIN); and you are NOT attracted to the men who would be willing to wife you up.

I must warn you, I am extremely picky which is why I have made this a 90 day mission instead of a 30 day mission (what I originally wanted to do HA) BUT I’m pretty sure I am also extremely approachable, so maybe it will even itself out?

--Extremely picky

--Extremely approachable

Pick one, darling.

Your extreme pickiness is why you've failed thus far.

Wish me luck on what I like to call my 90 Day Meet-A-Man Mission!

Good luck. You're gonna need it. That, and therapy.

Send me all of your questions or suggestions. Share my mission with others, if there are good men out there we WILL find them!

Here's my suggestion: Start approaching men. Start getting very, very forward with men you're attracted to and who appear to have decent jobs. Find a decent attractive man, throw yourself at him, prostrate yourself at his feet, and promise to serve him the rest of your life. Throw yourself on his mercy and hope to God he offers you commitment.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (4 children)

When you throw in the post-wall women who are married to betas, you begin to get a sense how damn easy a cheeky game-aware man aged 35 to 55 has it.

There is nothing to ever fear about taking the L. Replacement pussy is raining down

[–]DiscoverSierra 4 points5 points  (3 children)

55 is not the end. It can go on a lot longer.

[–]spfx1 1 points1 points [recovered]

Please GOD tell me the trick to this!! At 54 and in good shape, I struggle to get anything of value for some reason. I must be missing something.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't doubt it, just not personally familiar

[–]devilslittlehelper 17 points18 points  (0 children)

They are called Christmas Cake in Japan. Not good after 25..

[–]clonegreen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can't feel like this is going to lead to an inevitable downfall of the nuclear family and the west. I've seen so many waste their youth and met post wall women who become SJW feminists with a lot of clout.

With so many pissed and entitled people it causes desperation which can translate into a last ditch effort to make all suffer. Hopefully I'm wrong. Its going to take a new form of conditioning which doesent glorify so called equality through sluttiness.

[–]SuperCrazy07 11 points12 points  (1 child)

"At 29 I am cynical, low on patience and know exactly what I want."

I wish I knew how to link a username. An hour ago someone in a different thread posted a graph claiming that the amount of dick a woman has grows exponentially.

My response: "Look, girls of all ages (well most of 'em) get laid. But, have you ever talked to a girl >32 about what she's looking for in a man? You'll get a manifesto of things he needs to be and she's super picky. Yeah, she'll fuck chad...but he's not into her. So she gets laid occasionally."

I guess I have to update 32 down to 29.

[–]physicalbitcoin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/u/SuperCrazy07. Just put /u/ before their name and they'll get notified.

To link to their actual post, click perma-link, below far-left.

[–]VanityKings 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A part of me wishes I could feel bad for her and the millions of women like her doomed to a life of unhappiness as they get older and uglier.
But a bigger part of me knows they had plenty of time to find a "good man" and passed on them to try for someone better.
Karma is a bitch

[–]Nomfwic 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The mental gymnastics on that blog is insane!

Some gems...

"Let me tell you either finding good men is exhausting, or I just really value my down time at home on the weekends. Probaby the latter."

Yes, you value your alone time. Then please tell me why you made this blog to begin with?

"Have I ever mentioned that college was the best time of my life? And my guy friends from college set impossibly high standards? I mean these guys get up to let you sit down, carry things when your hands are full, hold your beer while you get ice cream (you get the point)."

Being young and attractive naturally gets this type of treatment.... Until you got blessed with wrinkles.

"Also at this wedding I met the sweetest girl who made an attempt at setting me up with one of her friends. Unfortunately, the attempt went nowhere, but I was a bit relieved because I despise being set up."

Yep... ofcourse you despise it because setups are normally with Billy the unconfident beta.

It baffles the mind really. How can she not get it?!? She still expects Chad to arrive, unwilling to settle for "nice guys" . Hypergamy in action here.

I pissed myself laughing though !

[–]OmegaMan2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

She is nothing more than a re-virginated whore putting on aires of chastity.

[–]Rhynovirus 2 points3 points  (3 children)

The nice guys who got rejected or friendzoned... I've come to reject this line of thinking. The niceguys were never going to have a shot cause they were niceguys. The woman was doing what we all do, trying to capitalize in a way that was best for her. Can't fault a person for that. Unfortunately for the woman, she overestimated her value. This probably happened in part because of all the BP attention. Reality is a hard mistress and now that she realizes she ain't all that she has to deal with it.

I frequently encounter 30-something single moms or 40-something recent divorcees who "were in abusive marriages for 13 years". They are inevitably trying to get with me not realizing that I'm out of their league and definitely not interested in being their rebound.

Its not my problem to fix it for them, either.

[–]youmolide 1 points1 points [recovered]

Ran into that the other - some cute young thing less than half my age -"Well my last boyfriend beat me up - it was teeerrrriiibbblle !'

Me : Well how long were you with him ?

Her : 5 years ...

Like she couldn't have figured that one out in 5 minutes ? Fail.

[–]AllahHatesFags 2 points3 points  (1 child)

At this point in her life she has two choices:

  1. Marry beta bux provider who doesn't give her the gina tingles but will take care of her.

  2. Keep chasing Chads and failing until she achieves cat lady status.

I think this bitch will choose option two, maybe we should all chip in and send her a litter box, courtesy of TRP.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Don't be bitter that high quality men have sex with peak smv women. They aren't jerks, thats a blue pill illusion

[–]buddhadarko 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This was a very concise way of explaining the female wall/post wall. I know a few of these leftover women myself. Some of them actually have a boyfriend that they've been with for years, but they still try to flirt/dress sexy to get attention but it doesn't work because nobody wants them. They're used/damaged goods. End of story.

Good post.

[–]physicalbitcoin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What? Sheryl Sandberg lied to us? Where's my pudgy accountant?

[–]LavaPipe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Although these are basic concepts for redpill, I really enjoyed how you wrote this. The in text examples are perfect for redpill noobs who are on the fence or in disbelief. Sweet post man

[–]panzerbier 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking forward to your new essay!

A data point: I'm nearing 30 myself, well put together. I'm spinning 3 plates, each nearing 30, literally without effort - all 3 have sought me out. I didn't spend a dime, and only a few hours on each before sex.

It's wonderful. They're not significantly worse than younger 20 somethings, but come very steeply discounted.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even worse for them, truly 10% (rich, status, looks) cant be locked down. By anyone. They view women as status simbol and only thing a women can be to these guys is a slave.

Truly sad for women.

[–]OSaraiva 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was reading some of the links like they were sort of a joke. They are not. Those women truly turn the hamster into an olympic gymnast.

[–]3nebder 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Your essay was written well. However, the wall isn’t a new concept. Ultimately, I cannot determine what the point is that you’re making.

What actions do you propose should be taken here? If you add in how to handle/bang a leftover then there’s much more value here.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 24 points25 points  (3 children)

It's red pill porn. Weren't you rock hard during the entire read??

[–]mummersfarce_is_done 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I visit this sub for posts like this now. It makes my day.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what this is! Not even slightly cutting edge and fucking hilarious.

[–]red_matrix 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There's always new people joining. Let them take their pill

[–]2kevin32[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Good points. The essay is meant for newly Red Pilled members, and I've updated the summary to reflect this. I'm also writing a piece on how to have NSA sex with these women.

[–]trp_nofap_rewire2018 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women gonna do women stuff

The feminine primacy is always reconstructing itself to benefit the females: in this case, this chick is facing the bitter truth that she’s hit the Wall, but still want to bear the best fruits that hypergamy can offer.

That’s all

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