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Rant/VentingAnother AWALT story. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Skyhawk_And_Skyhead

I've read many posts about guys being used as an ATM without even realizing it. I just figured out I'm being used as a cock to ride on. I'm not mad, but I must admit I'm a bit confused.

So I've had this plate. She let's me do whatever I want, and she comes over whenever I ask. She's a great conversation, we have the same taste in music and we like the same movies. We just have fun together in general. She's only ever once asked me to pay for something (place was cash only, she venmoed me layer)It's great. I'm thinking she's potential LTR material.

Last night was one of those times. We bang and she goes to the bathroom after. As I'm laying in bed her phone goes off and look over. She had gotten a text from some dude saying "I love you baby have a great night". She gets back and bed and gives me a kiss, and I ask her if she had a boyfriend. My friends, I've never seen a hamster spin so fast, she gives a tornado a run for it's money. She told me all about how she loves him so much it's just that he lives long distance and she needs to feel physical with someone. I chuckle And say, to each their own, if you two are comfortable with an open relationship, more power to you guys. (Im never judgmental, it gets me nowhere and im a degenerate, not a hypocrite.) She says "oh no, he doesnt know. If he figired out he would leave me, and (here's the kicker) he's paying for my tuition." Big shock, a girl cheating on her provider. It's not her fault of course, it's not like she chose a school 5 states away, and God forbid she have to wait a month to get laid.

The only thing that still confuses me is why would she pretend to want to commit to me, that's something guys usually do. Whatever, I'm getting laid.

TL;DR Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks, and it's not always obvious what side you're on.


[–]atomic_manatee 348 points349 points  (8 children)

Id wager that she makes a conscious effort to not owe you any money because its the hamsters delineation between boyfriend and side piece. In her head, that's the responsibility of solely her bf, and if you did pay for anything she would finally feel like she was "cheating".

[–]2Dmva100 80 points81 points  (1 child)

Very well put. This other side of this holds true as well. She probably denies sex to the boyfriend because she simultaneously feels like she's cheating on her 'partner' (side guy) so when the bf has to supplicate to get the sex, its starfish and filled with post coitus negative emotions akin to that of infidelity, when in reality it's just the failure to find AF/BB in the same guy.

[–]untonyto 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is so twisted of them but it's an accurate reflection of reality

[–]clme 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I bet many readers instantaneously applied the archetypes of alpha and beta to the lover and the boyfriend, respectively...BUT it is totally possible that her boyfriend actually looks like a top-of-the-shelf Chad: she's not cheating because he's ugly or boring, she's cheating simply because he's far away. I wonder if OP has actually seen the boyfriend's photo and can comment?

[–]marplaneit 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Paying for tuition of your gf 5 states away doesn't look very alpha to me...

[–]newName543456 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That moment when being a "side piece" becomes superior to being a bf.

[–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 1 point2 points  (0 children)

.... was about fifteen years ago.

[–]boom_bostic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Damn good point! That sounds exactly like something a hamster would do.

[–]petersen2massive 123 points124 points  (4 children)

The guy paying for her tuition is fucked, simply put. From that message you quoted, he's probably some supplicant beta. Paying for a girl's tuition opens up a fucked up can of worms one would be wise to stay away from. When this guy finds out this girl has been cheating on him, he'll either do the extreme beta thing of forgiving her and taking her back, or the extreme beta thing of offing himself over that bitch. 55K - 75K a year gone to waste? And for what? A pussy. Fuck outta here man! He can get a prostitute for less than 2% of that if things are really hard. But dudes like this won't do it because of their ego, they want to feel desired. Scarcity mentality is a a terrible disease

[–]1ozaku7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh god, 55k for pussy... You could get laid a thousand times per year in Europe with some real hotties. You could have massive sex parties with that money and he decides to spend it on a hoe living 5 states away that he gets to bang once a month.

This is shit I have never heard of in Europe. Only in America...

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

If I were the OP, I’d leave her, and be more careful. You don’t know what’s on the other side of that text.

Edit: to clarify, the story is solid, useful as a cautionary tale, and also, the beta buck imagery is spot on. Still, alls fair in love and war.

[–]plainposter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

scarcity principle of influence in action.

[–]Heisenbread77 179 points180 points  (1 child)

You had me at "I'm a degenerate, not a hypocrite."

[–]Solipsistic_guy 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Said like a true black knight ;) tips fedora

[–]PaulMurrayCbr 1 points1 points [recovered]

Men want a single women to be his everything. Women want a suite of men, each with their separate role. For every betaboy cuddlebitch, there's an alpha who knows that he will lose the girl the second he lets the dominance slip. For every husband getting cheated on, there's a man who knows that he has no loving wife to make him chicken soup if he falls ill.

Is what it is.

[–]newls 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We basically want and expect a facsimile of our mother's unconditional love. Hologram girlfriends are the next biggest disruption to the sexual marketplace (after Facebook and online dating). No modern girl can compete with an AI girl programmed to love you unconditionally, listen to you talk about your problems without disgust, and cater to your every material need.

[–]1SeemedGood 55 points56 points  (4 children)

Be not confused. Women are pretty much entirely solipsistic - in their minds they are the only individuals who exist as full human beings, all others (and often even their own children) are simply complex objects that exist for the provision of some utility or another to themselves.

All men that exist as something other than societal worker drones are either sex-objects or relationship-objects. You are clearly a sex-object to that particular woman. As your story demonstrates, it is better to be the sexy object than it is to be the relationship-object, but you will never be more than an object to any woman.

[–]newls 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I've been the sex object role to a girl who just got out of a marriage, and man they can have a high sex drive. I barely had to do any work. That taught me what real attraction from a woman should feel like.

[–]1SeemedGood 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Indeed, but just wait until you see what it’s like to be the sex-object of a woman that’s in a marriage (or LTR).

[–]newls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've experienced that too. It's eye-opening to see how much polarity they use when segmenting the men in their lives.

The more beta bucks their partner is, the more alpha they perceive you. Bonus points if they're married.

But alongside that, there is less margin for error. If it's weird for even a second, if you disrupt the tension and the flow, their shame trigger switches on and it's over as quickly as it started.

They have been some of the most "real-life" educating experiences of my life.

[–]bikermonk 29 points30 points  (13 children)

I have a question, would you tell this guy once you're done with this plate?

[–]Skyhawk_And_Skyhead[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I've dropped her already. I know how the game is and all, and if it's not me It's someone else. I just don't want to be a part of it for my own sake.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (1 child)

“I’ve met God across his long walnut desk with his diplomas hanging on the wall behind him, and God asks me, “Why?”

Why did I cause so much pain?

Didn’t I realize that each of us is a sacred, unique snowflake of special unique specialness?

Can’t I see how we’re all manifestations of love?

I look at God behind his desk, taking notes on a pad, but God’s got this all wrong.

We are not special.

We are not crap or trash, either.

We just are.

We just are, and what happens just happens.

And God says, “No, that’s not right.”

Yeah. Well. Whatever. You can’t teach God anything.”

[–]Bigspartandaddy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Fight Club ending. Nice reference.

[–]nawzyah 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Why would anyone want to invite that kind of drama into their lives? Also, if I were in OP's position, I would next that plate real quick. I don't care how good the pussy is

[–]Bigspartandaddy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He could do it from the shadows, he doesn't get involved in that shit.

[–]Dopesack 1 points1 points [recovered]

Yes, I would, with a link to this sub. That's a fucked up position to be in, paying for someone else's tuition under the premise you're a team when that couldn't be further from the truth.

I suspect ppl will argue dog eat dog and it's his own fault for not being wiser, I don't care. I'd probably end the plate by telling him asap. Not hard to find a new one and that stranger will appreciate the $10s of thousands saved more than you appreciate the pussy if you're not a virgin.

[–]Solon64 7 points8 points  (2 children)

That's the point. The guy is a stranger. He doesn't owe the guy anything. Why tell him? He tells him, best case he loses a plate and the "respect" of someone he's never seen and will never meet, worst case the guy comes over, finds him, and attacks him for "seducing/raping" his girl. You'd better believe in the second scenario that the girl will EASILY come out unscathed: "oh, i was drunk, he took advantage of me!"

I can't see any good coming from telling the guy. Enjoy it while it lasts, and if the chick has a pang of conscience, tell her good luck and you wish her the best.

[–]Dopesack 1 points1 points [recovered]

Suppose you see a "stranger" drive off the road and into a lake. Do you pull over to help or do you keep going because you don't owe them anything and it will ultimately be a burden to you to do so?

I see where you're coming from, but I'm fine taking on some risk to do what I perceive to be the right thing. In this case, like above, the utilitarian explanation is suiting. Me losing a plate vs a potentially good guy losing that kind of money, it's an easy decision. Natural selection and all that, but cooperation is the backbone of human society.

[–]cuggwy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think the risk of being accused of rape in this is very high, this women's paid for lifestyle is on the line. People will do much worse for much less.

Just break all contact

[–]bikermonk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

With you on this one. As a teen with oneitis I was caught in a similar situation when the proverbial snowflake went to another town for a while and immediately found a sugar daddy. I was paying for a lot of stuff too and would have never known- Had he not called up telling me exactly how things were. I'm eternally great ful if anything

[–]BewareTheOldMan 122 points123 points  (3 children)

…he's paying for my tuition." Big shock, a girl cheating on her provider.

I should be surprised, but the older I get I am less and less shocked at how women rationalize their duplicitous and nefarious behavior. The insult is that other women will support this woman’s shenanigans. She didn't even tell the OP. He discovered the boyfriend by sheer coincidence.

I could get past a girlfriend cheating because I invested some time and a bit of money, although I don’t get my time back. I might even demote her to Plate…if I were still interested on Spinning Plates. But the ONE THING I CANNOT ABIDE is a woman who is so selfish and entitled that she has no problem watching and knowing I am literally working myself to death to make her life not only possible, but as comfortable as possible.

This is what women don’t get because they don’t have to do the work. It’s why men are so angry. It’s almost NEVER a woman who is somehow financially supporting a man. If and when they do, these women are livid to the point of wanting to destroy the man who betrayed her trust.

A good example is these celebrity women who are upset they have to pay alimony to their much less famous and less-earning husbands…if these guys earn any money at all. These women feel the same pain men feel and all of a sudden the "rules need to be changed."

The worst part is yet to come. The boyfriend thinks he’s buying loyalty by paying her tuition. Tuition is expensive, ranging on average of $55,000 to $75,000. The lower range is a nice 2-bedroom house, the 75K range is a decent 3-bedroom house in a nice neighborhood. But instead of getting her loyalty, she assumes access to her vagina is a fair trade. Also, this guy is likely spending money to travel back and forth for both her and himself.

I feel bad for a young man trying to establish a family and legacy with today’s women. There might literally be 200 good women left in America.

Prostitutes have more honor and integrity than many of today’s women…and that’s the sad state of affairs in modern dating and marriage.

Young guys are screwed by the lack of quality women.

[–]bl1871 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Just be the guy bangin the bottom out of her nothing's to be livid about and keep enjoying your finances , achievements and her sexy ass

[–]FinancierGuru 21 points22 points  (0 children)

As long as you are on the right side of the tracks...AF that is. High five.

"a girl cheating on her provider." -What else is new ?

[–]Nintendobandit 12 points13 points  (1 child)

She’s easy and has no integrity/morals. Definitely not LTR material. As the old adage goes, “Once a cheater, always a cheater.” I hope you are using condoms at the minimum religiously so you don’t get any STDs.

[–]Skyhawk_And_Skyhead[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The girl that's safe to rawdog always makes you wear one. The girl that wants you to rawdog is never safe

[–]boom_bostic 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Another thing that is crazy to me is that the bf feels like their relationship is serious enough to pay for her tuition (which is pretty freaking serious) but is seemingly ok with just a text to end the night with. I'm not too big into texting & I may be a little old fashion but I usually talk to my main chick before I call it a night. I'm sure she probably dictates their communications & this is her probably all doing so her bf doesn't interfere in her CC riding time.

[–]The_Lightskin_Wonder 8 points9 points  (0 children)

For one women play into their emotions, she's going to act like she wants to commit because she feels that way. You make her feel that way. Women think and act in the present. Also before you found out she was trying to project the idea that she's available and only for you, because most people would bail upon finding out you're in an existing relationship.

Im willing to bet he probably isnt paying her tuition and lives right around the corner from you, but that is definitely her man, and you're one of her plates.

But what you have to accept is that no matter who you fuck, there is always a possibility that you are 1 of their plates . sometimes people take awalt for negative things only but all women have pure sexual interests too and you were one of them.

Its no big deal,but understand the consequences of cheating. Saps do dumb shit for love, and she willdrop you on a dime the moment her relationship is in jeopardy.

[–]dontgiveupcarib 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This moron pays for some chick's tuition, what does he expect? He has no reason to do so, it's not like they have kids and are bonded by more than 'love'.

It's his own fault for being an idiot and 'supportive', I hope he finds out one day.

[–]Alexinfinite01 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is why I don't like women any more. Not proud to say it, but there it is

[–]notonlyplace 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Im never judgmental,

I use to agree because pissing her off means no sex for me, In reality, I didn't care In fact I agreed with her and helped her hamster spin, I didn't give two shits about her or her man

But you mention LTR and if you want an LTR it's fine to be judgemental

[–]newls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're judgemental it shows that you have anger issues about sex, i.e. you don't get enough of it. Always go with the flow when freakiness is on the table.

[–]LordThunderbolt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If I were you I'd get some money out of her. Have her buy you shit with her boyfriend's money

[–]follow_that_rabbit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well at least you know she isn't LTR material anymore, i'd not severe contacts though.

[–]hodltaco 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Hilarious. I've got an almost identical story save the tuition payments. I think I would have angled to get her providers number and contacted him. In fact, I know I would have.

I'm old. Before RP there was always bros before hoes and that's some fucked up AWALT shit.

[–]Solon64 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This nameless faceless provider isn't his "bro" though, that's the thing. If it were my buddy, yeah id tell him his girl is cheating on him, but i wouldnt sleep with my buddy's girl in the first place.

OP doesnt know the guy and didn't know he even existed, you can hardly put any of the blame of the situation on him.

If he tells him, he breaks up with the chick, OP loses a plate, and the girl goes and finds another man to sleep with. She isn't losing anything. You aren't getting some kind of petty revenge out of this, so why create drama where there is none?

[–]hodltaco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. He's got to make his own journey and if he hasn't figured it out yet he's not ready.

[–]King_Ov_Hell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Before I read the part where she admits everything I was shocked how she didn't ask you to pay. But my shock didn't last long. She didn't ask you for money because someone else was paying. Everyday I hate their greed and entitlement more and more.

[–]pookie513 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pretending to want a commitment =/= hamster for guilt aleviation. "I'm not doing anything wrong if I'm considering him as a potential boyfriend." Or simple kayfabe/Anti Slut Defense.

[–]cashmoney_x 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Whatever, I'm getting laid."

The real reason you posted this.

[–]chauncy_popperstein 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Paying her tuition? Good God... I just feel a little bad after hearing that. That is one of the most Blue Pill things that can happen. The only thing worse is a cuck in a "open" marriage.

[–]uebermacht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]binarynightmare 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Worth considering that her bf/provider could be a long distance sugar daddy who insists in monogamy. Would explain the tuition being paid out of pocket and the likely age difference.

[–]haroldpeters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wow.. she must be one expensive hoe.. tuition for the occasional fuck... ouch! Beta vibes all over that guy.

[–]ilovehelmetsama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow man, it's lucky you left your emotions at the door, or this could've been painful... Keep up the good work.

[–]boylaundry 0 points1 point  (1 child)

She's like the female equivalent of a red pill man, getting what you want and not giving a single fuck who you use in the process. OP is good for nothing other than what's in between his legs. Bravo for her.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The life cycle of the average whore:

Mommy! Where is daddy. I miss daddy!

3 different boys in 12 hours!

You go girl!

Get it out of your system before you settle into a sexless marriage.

What? He wasn't good enough?

Where are all the good men?

Enjoy your cats!

Meoooow!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She could have been feeling you out to try and monkey branch.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She had gotten a text from some dude saying "I love you baby have a great night". She gets back and bed and gives me a kiss, and I ask her if she had a boyfriend.

i've lernt not to ask. if she is with me, she is with ME. thats it, i'm there to provide what she needs at that spersific time. ( and she does the same for me otherwise i wouldnt be with her)

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She pretended because that is how she felt at the time. If she is commiting to you then it is not cheating.. Says the hamster.

[–]jinglebells89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"As I'm laying in bed her phone goes off"

Interesting to think about how much damage (murders, suicides, divorces, restraining orders, false allegations, stalking, etc. etc.) has been preceded by this exact moment.

[–]untonyto -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea this post has only set off a nuke in my head with my long distance relationship arrangement (I know, beta, right?). She probably also needs to feel physical with someone, and God forbid she have to wait a month to get laid. The pill's extra bitter today.