Blue Pill ExampleReminder to keep your T in check: Buzzfeed numales take testosterone test, below normal levels (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1CoupDeGrace22

Well color me surprised.


Caught my eye this morning and thought I'd share for you guys who give RP a quick glance more often than you do the news.

These are the same faggots who had done a video in the past photoshopping their soyboy physiques alongside a celebrity's for the intent of passing another feelgood message of men shouldn't be forced to be fit , feelz before realz BS.

Aside from the asian dude who looks kinda ok for how skinny he is(and ironically is the only one within the lower-normal T- range), the remaining guys most likely can't even do 1 single pullup and bet my left nut never cared of structuring their diet properly, let alone do the other small things to optimize their health.

This should remind you that your testosterone is a paramount catalyst in your life, which is why everyone in here repeats the same old advice of "hit the gym". One of the biggest maladies of our age, depression along with every other symptom it entails, is 9/10 times accentuated if not caused by low testosterone.

If your health doesn't allow you to lift, it's up to you to figure something out & make up what you're missing , just make sure you are not making excuses and remember there's this guy out there:


Never a bad idea to have a blood test.Quick search on google or sidebar will get you going on how to get your T- to healthy levels.

Lift, diet, sleep, reduce stress(meditate), zinc, sunlight(vit D), posture, Ω3, winner effect, etc.

Stay healthy bros

[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (8 children)

To the faggot who reported this for using the word faggot: you, sir, are a huge faggot.

Men who smoke a pack of dicks a day would disapprove of how much of a faggot you are.

There are drag queens in the Tenderloin who took a break from belting out showtunes to phone me up and ask me "Who the hell is this massive faggot?".

And I had to answer...

"I do not know, but he has reached levels of faggotry which are not even theoretically possible, requiring us to form a whole new theory of Grand Unification Homosexuality. We are going to have to construct a bigger supercollider and throw bears, twinks, and female impersonators at each other at previously untested velocities to understand this level of faggotry. We will have to lock Milo Yiannopoulos in a room-sized steel cage with six steamer trunks full of BDSM gear and the entire defensive line of the San Francisco 49ers to even replicate this level of faggotry for testing purposes."

Also, you are gay.

[–]UnpluggedGoku 373 points374 points  (6 children)

LOL, who knew they were beta males?

[–]WolfofAnarchy 92 points93 points  (1 child)

Literally everyone outside of the blue pill conditioning.

So, not many people.

[–]Shippoyasha 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's actually sad how this bluntly obvious fact is some politically incorrect super-redpill fact nowadays. How deep the rabbit hole has gotten.

[–]causeandcorrelation 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Every single woman that works with them

[–]UnpluggedGoku 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah. So the Ned looks super beta and he has the lowest T while Eugene looks a little aggressive among them and he has the highest.

[–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

well...they are on buzzfeed

[–][deleted] 140 points141 points  (1 child)

"Male Feminists less masculine than average males."

Lol, so surprising.

[–]commander_zoidberg 18 points19 points  (0 children)

File under: No shit sherlock and C for CUCK.

[–]Whatisthisbug3333 118 points119 points  (23 children)

Seriously - it’s important to do blood work up at least once a year to check your hormones, insulin, cholesterol, blood counts, etc. Keep your records so you know how you are trending. The data gained from a 20 minute blood draw allows you to basically hack your body, know how it works and optimize it. You may have an underlying issue that you never knew about and is easily remedied.

Here’s a site where you can sign up and order a blood test and just go to a quest diagnostics get it drawn and then results show up on the website in a week. WellnessFX.com It’s a bit expensive but worth it. Not available in all states. There are other companies like this too.

[–]b7f4c53d00e8 23 points24 points  (7 children)

Wow. Those guys are expensive. I have been using privatemdlabs.com for several years now. I've been getting the "Male Anti-Aging Deluxe w/Free (Direct) Testosterone" panel which is around $200 USD; if you sign up for their mailing list, they'll send you coupons weekly for 15% off. They use LabCorp, which is pretty much a clone of Quest Diagnostics.

[–]Whatisthisbug3333 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Is it just the one test? Wellness package tests like 72 different markers for 1k, there’s a cheaper package for a few hundred that tests a lower number than that. Wellness is just prints you a ticket to take to quest and then they upload the results in a readable format.

[–]b7f4c53d00e8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, that's a relatively comprehensive panel. They give you a test requisition to take to a LabCorp location; results usually come back in 3-4 days as a PDF.

Ordinarily I'm in the "you get what you pay for" camp, but I'm not sure the more expensive service is really better, if it's all being processed by 3rd party labs.

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[–]Whatisthisbug3333 20 points21 points  (6 children)

Unbelievably it’s hard to sometimes get your doctor to run such a through panel. Like for a physical they might rub 12 different tests, but there’s like 60 more you might want to have. It gives you freedom to decide vs being forced to do what your doctor says. Some states don’t let you do this yourself so that only doctors can order any blood tests, limiting patient flexibility

[–]b7f4c53d00e8 4 points5 points  (5 children)

The other nice thing about paying for your own testing is that you control the results - you don't necessarily have to use your "real" name for the test, so your results won't necessarily be linked to your other health records + insurance records if you value your privacy.

[–]Whatisthisbug3333 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is an important point. Your health records with most doctors are NOT private. You want life insurance? You need to give them access to all your doctors and all his notes. You think when you told him you drink, do drugs, or thought you had a stroke that it will be private... wait till you try to get life insurance and they ask for access to all those records... those admissions will blow you out of the water trying to get life insurance.

[–]lord_fawkward 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You can also do it through this site and this test. I have used their service before and it works well with the local lab. The cost of this panel is $219.00 http://requestatest.com/mens-health-panel-testing

[–]Questionnaire7 30 points31 points  (12 children)

What does zinc help with? Whats ohm3?

[–]1CoupDeGrace22[S] 33 points34 points  (7 children)

Effects of mega-dosing zinc for 4 weeks on wrestlers:


Not advisable as mentioned for the long term(long term here meaning even 2-4 weeks), take it for what you will.

Pill a day regardless keeps you on the green, whether ZMA or plain Zinc.

Omega-3 effects on muscle growth:(very outdated but good start, you can find tons more on your own).


[–]simple_mech 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Props for linking directly to lg.

OP you can also do some digging on examine.com, that place is a treasure trove.

[–]WolfofAnarchy 13 points14 points  (0 children)


that site cuts through all the fucking broscience here and everywhere. it's amazing.

[–]xNightly 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Zinc levels are directly linked with testosterone levels. A zinc deficiency will definitely lower your testosterone potential and the same applies to Vitamin D. Ohm 3 is Omega 3 found in things such as Fish Oil and studies have shown that a sufficient intake of Omega 3 helps with things such as depression, lowers the risk of heart diseases and overall improves bodily functions.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Omega 3 fatty acids - fish oils

[–]AllahHatesFags 112 points113 points  (16 children)

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure getting pounded in the ass lowers your testosterone.

[–]Breauxaway90 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Most of the bottoms I know have done a couple cycles so I think they’re good.

[–]AllahHatesFags 2 points3 points  (0 children)

These buzzfeed faggots would need to start injecting tren into their eyeballs to get to normal.

[–]A1M8E7 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Stimulate your prostate bruh

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Not to change topics but my wife does that when I'm about to blow and I go into convulsions

[–]sonicboomslang 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Your wife does that to me too, thanks for teaching her that move (though please tell her not to use her whole fist next time).

[–]AussiePhil82 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Why the hate for gay guys?

Some of the most 'alpha' guys I know are gay.

[–]hawkeaglejesus 26 points27 points  (0 children)

it's 2017, being gay doesn't make you a faggot

[–]AllahHatesFags 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Those are the guys doing the pounding.

[–]Hugh_Munghous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

doesn’t know about prostrate gains

You gotta confuse your prostate bro

[–]abdout77 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm Muslim but I could resist laughing at your name

[–]AllahHatesFags 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you, is it intended to piss off sjw's, not Muslims.

[–]2Dmva100 159 points160 points  (139 children)

Red meat and eggs. Vit d and zinc.

You be good.

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[–]Let_me_at_them 18 points19 points  (14 children)

I am in the same boat as you are. I got my T levels checked 3 weeks ago and came out at about 300... I am in my 20s, lift and eat and live quite healthy, so I don’t see, where this is coming from.

Right now my doc and I are trying to see, if higher doses of Vit D (20.000 IE/ week) are going to have a positive impact. I’m retesting my levels in 4 weeks as well. Good luck! Looking forward to your results.

[–]mortalcoil1 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I have heard so many conflicting issues with Vit D supplements. I would like to hear your results. Are you also getting your Vit D levels checked? I have heard of people actually losing Vit D levels in their blood from supplementation.

[–]Let_me_at_them 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, we are going to have a look at my Vit D levels as well. There are some studies indicating a connection between Vit D and the production of steroid hormones, so we are taking a shot, to see if this might be the issue.

I'll keep you in mind. When I get the results from my next test I can shoot you a message. You can also remind me in a month if you want to, in case I forget.

[–]beginner_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They may loose Vit D because they test in summer and then winter.

Thing is it takes forever for the levels to rise. And there is a limit how much you can absorb so huge doses are pointless. All it needs is discipline and patience.


Some people have absorption issues and for those no level of supplementation will help.

[–]beginner_ 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Vitamin D takes forever to increase. I was very low, taking 4000IU/day for 1 year now and it's ok according to "general medicine" but still too low according to society of endocrinology. So the threshold values aren't that clear cut either.

Anyway retesting in 3 weeks is pointless to check fro a vitamin D effect. 6 months would make more sense.

[–]Let_me_at_them 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Interesting. It will have been 6 weeks of supplementation, when we recheck my levels, but I will keep your comment in mind.

Since I’m interested in this topic, do you mind me asking for your personal experience? By how much did your levels change? What effects did it have (perhaps on other hormones)? Do you feel any different now that you are in a “normal” range? Are you planning further steps?

[–]beginner_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like this page for info on vitamin D levels.

I was at 20 ng/ml 1 year ago and now at 31. No real differences. Did not test T levels.

I did test T levels even longer time ago and it was very low (350ng/dl). Should probably test again but it's not easy to get them tested if it actually was ok (according to the idiotic standards). You will basically have to lie you have ED because if you say you have no sexual issues then it's fine. (NOT US). Anyway, too many changes happened to simply link it to vitamin D anyway.

[–]Cenki 5 points6 points  (1 child)

My hormones led doctors to do a head MRI, Mine was lower due to a tumor, and after taking medication for the tumor it went from 190 ng/dl to 1540... I felt like a psycho superhero for awhile but eventually it dropped and leveled around 575 and now I just feel like me again :D

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[–]Future_Alpha 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Blood vessels are not blocked by cholesterol or OLD fats by themselves. They only block blood vessels if paired with carbs, which oxidize the fats causing them to react with the endothelium of the blood vessels forming fatty streaks and arthersclerotic plaque.

Moreover, mouse studies show that feeding mice that do not exercise, a good diet gives them more atherosclerotic buildup than feeding a 'bad diet- to mice with frequent, high intensity exercise.

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[–]arthurabyssal 21 points22 points  (7 children)

Steak and eggs (low carb) is very good for the arteries. Increases HDL and lowers tryglycerides. Cholesterol in food has no impact on blood levels because your body reduces its own production in accordance with your diet.

[–]TheFastandTheFurion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Serum (blood) cholesterol is clearly increased by adding dietary cholesterol": http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/55/6/1060.full.pdf

After eating meat cholesterol is increased: http://m.jlr.org/content/35/11/1993.short

Dietary cholesterol and saturated fat together: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC295526/

Meta Analysis of 17 studies: Danger of LDL cholesterol in food overwheigts the effects of HDL: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9001684

Harvard News: High HDL may not protect heart. studies linked Show higher heart attack rates with HDL medication.

I hope I could help

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[–]filli1aj 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm doing this as part of a bulk. The program is Jim Wendlers: building the monolith. His only rule for nutrition is to eat 1.5 pounds of beef and a dozen whole eggs a day.

But I also read an article on the art of manliness blog about how the guy raised his natural T levels by almost 300 from eating red meat and eggs daily.

[–]RedPimpin 7 points8 points  (28 children)

wait, so i almost never eat red meat, take 5000 iu vot d3 and 50mg zinc a day, breakfast is 3 eggs.. is that really so so bad?

i had a blood test where my doctor even complimented my low cholesterol

[–]Future_Alpha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eat red meat. Cholesterol is produced by the liver and serum cholesterol is not dependent on diet.

[–]arthurabyssal 2 points3 points  (16 children)

Low cholestetol is not healthy. High cholesterol is healthy. A huge proportion of the brain is cholesterol. Cholesterol heals arteries, gets turned into vitamin D under the skin, is the precursor to every sex hormone (yes: Testosterone) and is the reason we can move unlike plants.

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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Most of the damage comes from the lining of your gut being used up by bacteria. Fermented foods and fiber can stop and reverse this.

[–]Tyger2212 5 points6 points  (9 children)

High cholesterol increases your risk of stroke or arterial damage

[–]arthurabyssal 2 points3 points  (8 children)

No it doesn't. That 'fact' was based on shoddy data.

[–]Tyger2212 21 points22 points  (7 children)

Who to believe

thousands of doctors and scientists Random guy on Reddit

[–]whenrudyardbegan 16 points17 points  (0 children)

thousands of doctors have never been wrong

How's the low fat diet working out

[–]robpor 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I'm not that dude but how it works is basically that when your arteries get wear and tear your body uses cholestrol to patch it up, so it's a symptom of poor health and not a cause.

[–]KarmaEnthusiast 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Depends on what type of cholesterol. I remember a lecture I watched a few years back defining cholesterol in two categories: high density cholesterol (HDC) and low density cholesterol (LDC). Of these two you can have high levels or low levels.

I think saturated fats contribute to HDC and is "bad" cholesterol but don't quote me on the metabolic pathways. I also only say it's bad because people tend to have diets with too much saturated fat. There's nothing inherently wrong with HDC, it has bodily function much like LDC.

[–]beginner_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's LDL and HDL and high HDL levels are bad.


What matters is the combination between LDL, HDL and Triglycerides.


[–]KarmaEnthusiast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting, thanks for the link it's been a while since I did lipoproteins. I think the first link said LDL was "bad" though since it ends up in arteries. HDL ends up in the liver where it's detoxified.

[–]Luckylancer96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NOPE! Vit D have its own pre form. And we can move without testosterone. Get your facts straight or get the fact out of here.

Edit: puns intended

[–]AllahHatesFags 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Maybe you should start vaping tren.

[–]lawlyer1216 2 points3 points  (0 children)

if this were a thing I’d be 100% on board. don’t neglect your PCT vape juice though!

[–]Charmingaxelotl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could be lack of sleep. Very interesting though, you seem to be doing things right.

[–]rikleeRed42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

go vegan for a month or two, i guarentee it will raise your T

[–]ThickDickWarrior89 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I’m a good source of vitamin D

[–]Hjalmbere 11 points12 points  (12 children)

Add selenium and cold showers if you’re 30+.

[–]RedditorFor1OYears 10 points11 points  (11 children)

What's the deal with selenium?

[–]Hjalmbere 10 points11 points  (9 children)

Studies show selenium helps your body to produce testosterone if you’re 30+. And improves sperm count and prostate health.

Article: http://iast.net/testosterone-boosters/testosterone-booster-ingredients/selenium-benefits-and-side-effects/

Study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19091331/

I eat brazil nuts every morning and evening. Good for selenium. Apparently the only nuts that are good for increased testosterone are brazil nuts and macadamias. Other nuts should be avoided. I used to snack on walnuts. Bad. They contain SHBG which blocks free testosterone. Same with soy bean products.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Walnuts contain sex hormone binding globulin? That is the most hilarious thing I've ever heard.

Although I wish it did. Having your SHBG at 11 nmol/l like me is no fun. In reality it makes no sense trying to lower your SHBG because total testosterone will also lower with it. (Body compensates and free testosterone portion stays the same). 35-45 nmol/l is the ideal range.

[–]Hjalmbere 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Here’s a study linking increased SHBG to walnuts: http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v65/n3/full/ejcn2010266a.html

*not sure if walnuts contain SHBG but there’s a link. as stated in the study. Eat at your own risk.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Of course they don't contain it, but they might as well raise SHBG. I'll probably try them. Low SHBG is no fun.

[–]Hjalmbere 1 point2 points  (3 children)

SHBG renders testosterone inactive, why would you want that?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Let's just think about that for a minute. Isn't it quite childish to think that your body produces this protein that would actually be bad for you? Don't you think SHBG should have a role in your endocrine system?

This guy had (close to) zero SHBG due to a rare genetic mutation: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/99/9/E1798/2537696 So he should've been the most alpha male to ever roam this planet, right? Quite the opposite. Read it.

That whole free hormone hypothesis is outdated science nowadays. This is what we know now:

  1. Healthy people have the same amount of free testosterone. If SHBG changes, total testosterone changes to compensate. So higher SHBG means higher total testosterone. My SHBG is 11 nmol/l and even though there's nothing wrong with my balls or pituitary I have the total testosterone levels of a 80-year-old. You'll never find a guy that has naturally high total testosterone and low SHBG.

  2. The lower the SHBG, the faster you metabolize testosterone. What little T I have in the morning is mostly metabolized during the day. If you have higher SHBG, your testosterone levels don't fluctuate very much daily.

  3. SHBG-bound testosterone is not inactive. This is a newer research, so not all is known. However it has been suggested: -SHBG-bound testosterone can enter cells (albeit not as well as free testosterone) but it affects there longer than unbound testosterone -There are specific SHBG-receptors What ever the case may be, we actually need SHBG-bound testosterone. This why most guys on TRT don't feel the difference where their total testosterone is 200 or 1200. Google it. It's a real thing. Ironically most of them wouldn't need TRT in the first place if their SHBG was 35 instead of 10.

Summa summarum of your SHBG isn't over 50 (and your balls are working correctly) there's no need to lower your SHBG; you'll just end up having less testosterone and metabolize it faster. SHBG is foundation of a healthy sex hormonal system and it's actually your friend - not the enemy.

[–]Hjalmbere 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Your reasoning regarding SHBG strikes me as somewhat flawed: E.g. your body also produces cortisol and high amounts of cortisol over prolonged periods are not good for you.

However I’m always open to changing my mind, but that guy you posted a link to is an outlier. Do you have any links to actual studies? Also, what would you say the normal SHBG level for a healthy 50 year old male would be?

[–]RedditorFor1OYears 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Damn. I eat a lot of meal replacement type stuff that's soy based because it's quick and easy. Good to know.

[–]destraht 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've read that North American soil is super low in selenium.

[–][deleted] 70 points71 points  (51 children)

At school, I met a guy who had shitty parents which had raised him as a vegetarian (would drink actual milk but ate no fish or meat, only soy-based substitutes) and his body was seriously fucked; he looked like he was starving. Once he started eating red meat and working out ect., a total transformation took place- he gained muscle mass at a faster rate that I have seen anyone else do. The point is, is that you have parents which read bullshit 'studies' from glossy magazines in the late '90s and early 00's which advocated for veganism and vegetarianism, so there is now a generation of testosterone deficient soy-boys who just need someone to give them correct dietary advice and a kick up the arse. Raising a child as vegan/vegetarian is fucking child abuse.

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[–]Epictetus2017 48 points49 points  (4 children)

I have gone vegetarian occasionally. It is good for your health if you eat the right way and get enough protein.

I have met some very athletic men (especially Sikhs) who do not consume meat.

[–]Perceval7 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Can confirm. I've been vegetarian from birth and never had any problem with it.

[–]Future_Alpha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Id you eat like shit but regularly exercise and eat lots of red meat, you'll be healthier than someone who eats well but does not exercise.

[–]kieran9323 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've met some drunk Sikhs, not in India though, your argument is invalid

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022473189904597 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6298507 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227 Yeah it's possible, but not likely. In most cases it's probably that a naturally high test person adopts that lifestyle and although the diet is suppressing the testosterone they still have normal levels due to being naturally higher. Also the average american diet wouldn't be any better and some studies show lower test levels from that. But the average american diet isn't high protein/meats/eggs etc it's high carbs and factory made bullshit.

Edit: Why is this getting so many downvotes lolol, I just posted 5 different studies showing that it’s the case. Nothing I said was controversial, yall just dislike people calling you out for being a soyboy or what?

[–]hypebeasts101 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Raising a child on an unhealthy diet that doesn't promote bodily growth is child abuse, not a vegan diet.

[–]chinawinsworlds 14 points15 points  (4 children)

I'm pretty sure you can raise a healthy vegan child, you just have to be educated on the subject.

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[–]vadangelo 23 points24 points  (6 children)

tly the only nuts that are good for increased testosterone are brazil nuts and macadamias. Other nuts should be avoided. I used to snack on walnuts. Bad. They contain SHBG which blocks free testosterone. Same with soy bean products.

Dude, no. Just to begin:

  1. Milk has carbohydrates, meat doesnt (in any significant amount)

  2. The vegans in your group were 10 YEARS YOUNGERS and had mere 86ng/dL more unbound T... not exactly that much (between groups). You could actually argue that meat eats had it better.

  3. Epidemiological studies are quite hard to interpret. Beyond that, maybe you could point to that study(ies)?

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[–]ReddingtonsShitList 4 points5 points  (3 children)

It's abusive if you make them eat the soy shit. There was a case (can't remember where from) where CPS accused a new parent couple of starving their toddler. They were actually feeding it a ton but it was all soy based foods. Soy based vegan diets are bad for kids and probably what he was referring to as abuse.

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[–]ReddingtonsShitList 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Assuming McDonald's is actually meat /s

Jokes aside those kids are fat because of the carbs and soda

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You mean one gram of Tren a week right?

[–]ShotgunTRP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the breakfast glo told me to eat

[–]DonkeyPunch19 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good at being dead by 40 from heart disease.

[–]people_watcher 14 points15 points  (5 children)

A number of years ago I felt like shit. I did my research and settled on low T as the cause.

I visited my doctor for confirmation and he ran the blood tests. Came back low, but not out of range. He and I had a passionate discussion of why I should be on T therapy. He said that the level was normal... I said that he was right... if I was 70.

For a mid-20's guy, I should have been at the upper end of the range. Not barely hanging on to the bottom 5%.

I won. I was diagnosed as hypogonadism. I got on T therapy and my life fucking changed! Energy, libido, muscle.

Moral: If you feel off, lathargic, weak, depressed... get your T levels checked.

[–]Whatisthisbug3333 7 points8 points  (1 child)

This is the story I hear with everyone who goes on T Therapy - life changing.. so many people are quick to dismiss it because they want to continue to pigeon hole men in this low testosterone state. Wake the fuck up people.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Watched the whole 20 minute segment. God it was hard to watch. physically cringey, and all of them at various points referred to their wives/girlfriends.

They are basically chicks in male bodies, everything about them from their body language, to their speech patterns to their mannerisms, to their upspeak to the way they cross their legs makes me think they've copied girls on how to act.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I stopped watching like 10 min in and thought they were all gay.

[–]Work_In_Progress92 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Can't say I am surprised. I haven't watched anything from that shitty place ever since their "Dear White Guys" abortion of a video. Just remembering how the 'men' in that video dressed does not surprise me that Buzzfeed males have low testosterone.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (5 children)

I'm very close to my cousin's family but they're extremely blue-pilled...they went fat-free vegan a couple years ago and my 15 yo homie is so skinny. At 15 you shouldn't be doing that to your body.

[–]Veegun 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What the fuck is wrong with the fat free vegans. The fat you eat is NOT the fat you wear. CICO That's the road to direct hormone imbalance.

[–]hypebeasts101 11 points12 points  (3 children)

A good vegan diet (not bullshit soy 24/7 vegans) is healthier than any other diet.

[–]Whatisthisbug3333 33 points34 points  (34 children)

To add - all your suggestions on raising your T are good ones, but if you are really low, something is wrong with your signaling mechanism to your body to produce testosterone, so improving those would only have marginal benefit and that person should go on testosterone injections to get their levels normal. All those guys in that study should go to their doctors and will likely be put on testosterone replacement therapy. Their levels are so low they have hypogonadism and no amount of sleep, working out, etc will get them to normal levels. They need to triple their levels, not going to happen without external help based on their doctors advice.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 56 points57 points  (4 children)

When you are a male working at buzzfeed you need a whole lot more than normal T levels.

[–]funny_lyfe 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Regular males wouldn't do half the gay acting shit they do. So because the job requires it they end up with SJW numales.

[–]destraht 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I'm continually reminded of what my environment would be like if I lived in a liberal pit like Silicon Valley or San Francisco. Sure I'd be banging the nerd girls but there would be lots of these vagina men gunning for me behind the scenes and they would likely succeed at knocking me down a level. I would be brought in front of HR to hear shit like "your performance is good but....". Then the step up from this is betafied Indians and that isn't all that great either but at least their ideology isn't against my existence. Office workers can be such pussies and its something that I need to remain aware of for the remainder of my career. Furthermore other countries which are on the liberal track are simply lagging so many years behind and so if don't keep up with the trends then I could end up in some shit situation ten years from now on the other side of the planet.

[edit] Sweet. I must have been linked to from somewhere with a drive by downvote. HRCfanficwriter posts in subredditdrama and sanfrancisco channels and then within an hour it pops in. Of course low-testosterone SJW males and passive-aggressive shitty females act like this.

[–]redvelvet_oreo 41 points42 points  (15 children)

improving those would only have marginal benefit and that person should go on testosterone injections to get their levels normal. All those guys in that study should be going on testosterone replacement therapy.

Its needs to be known that TRT should not be taken unless everything else fails. TRT will fuck up your system for life. Once your on you are not suppose to come off of it. People need to stop recommending TRT as a first response.

To expand on your point about the bodies signaling system might be fucked up. That will show up in your blood work. If you get your LH and FSH measured you can tell if your testicles are not working right or your pituitary gland is not working right. In the event both seem normal it could be many other thing also.

Things to check (basically what OP mentioned)

  • Are you sleeping 8 hours

  • Zinc and Vitman D Levels

  • DIET - Make sure you are getting the correct amount of macro nutrients. Eating a calorie deficit diet to long can make your T go low.

  • Body Fat is it low or high both can effect T levels.

  • If you can psychically, LIFT.

I am sure there are other things that need to be verified and checked also. It takes about 2 - 3 months to see your T levels go back to normal after doing all the right stuff.

Please do not recommend TRT to people. It should be a last resort. They can truly fuck up their system when alot of people can easily correct their problem.


[–]purduered 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah those T levels are shockingly low across the board

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (10 children)

At age 30 I decided to get a bunch of blood work and other tests done. My T was 163. It's a wonder I didn't sprout a vagina. At the time I was a giant socalist, low-energy sack of shit that just sat around and was worthless. I attempted a few natural options and nothing was working (as another poster said, focus on natural first) but then was put on TRT. My T is now around 500-600 (not even at the high level) and my life is literally completely different. No more low-energy bullshit, it's all focus on improvement in one way or another. Can confirm that I'm increasingly right-wing in my beliefs now, too. Hormones rule your world. Keep them in check.

[–]whoismikejoneswho -1 points0 points  (8 children)

Are you seriously implying that one's politics are impacted by testosterone levels? I suppose men in Europe, Canada and Australia are simply low in "T, bro", hence they don't share most of the backwoods beliefs of the American right wing? Honestly if you didn't mention your age I would have just assumed you were 20 and not gone through the effort of writing this but if you're still contriving pseudo science gibberish at 30 something, testosterone deficiency may be the least of your worries

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Note I did not imply anything. I can only speak to my own experience. When I had low T two years ago I was very liberal, to the left of Gandhi on those 4 square tests. Now I'm almost center, slightly skewed right. That could full well be entirely correlation zero causation, but my life is the only thing I can talk to, just providing data points here.

[–]I_Need_More_Space_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good for you for picking yourself up out of the victim mentality. Free will is a beautiful thing. Those that want to take the fruits of your free will to give to others and themselves just show their similarity with women. Women are takers, and when men become takers of FORCED charity, they may as well start shopping with a blonde wig, fake tits, and high heels.

[–]hypebeasts101 7 points8 points  (0 children)

His brain deficiency is probably a bigger issue.

[–]1CoupDeGrace22[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Correct, but we don't know if they indeed are diagnosed with hypogonadism, for all we know the lab in question could be equally as stupid as buzzfeed and did the work on non-morning hours(peak testosterone).

Good pointing it out given the stance many doctors have towards testosterone therapy on young guys, if your levels are that low ask yourself to get further work done for hypogonadism if it's not recommended.

[–]BreakingRed_ 10 points11 points  (20 children)

Well fuck. My T was at the 315's. Do we have a guide on increasing that shit naturally?

[–]Veegun 20 points21 points  (10 children)

  • Sleep 8 hours MIN
  • Look into nofap
  • Resistance train: Lift heavy & compound
  • Restrict cardio (DEFINITELY DONT RUN UNLESS OVERWEIGHT), I'd say rowing is okay but general HIIT such as sprinting ideal
  • Eat vegetables and fruit
  • Eat healthy fats (Olive oil, fish, nuts, avocado, lean meats, coconut, cacao, etc) - at least 70g a day
  • Avoid coffee if you can to restore natural sleep wake cycle (otherwise moderation is key)
  • Live a no stress life - meditate
  • Avoid gluten if you can (studies show it is pro-inflamatory)
  • Lots of herbs are good for T (google the studies) Ginger, Cloves, Stinging Nettle root
  • Get enough sun or sup vit d
  • Don't drink or smoke
  • Wean off the bullchit the doctors giving you that will make you a customer to the pharmaceutical industry for life
  • Get a shower filter (estrogens in water)
  • Drink RO water or spring water, tap should be avoided
  • Avoid commercial personal care products as these are highly estrogenic (look for natural ones)
  • Avoid phytoestrogens in general
  • Avoid dairy (just google 'estrogen milk pubmed' to be flooded with studies)
  • Red grapes and white button mushrooms apparently are aramatose inhibitors but haven't looked much into the effectiveness on the studies)
  • Other supplements that could help: ZMA, Spirulina, Iodine

Source - have had low T

[–]WolfofAnarchy 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Restrict cardio (DEFINITELY DONT RUN UNLESS OVERWEIGHT), I'd say rowing is okay but general HIIT such as sprinting ideal

This is wrong. Running keeps you alive and can be an incredibly start of your day. Just do intervals or really, really run hard. Don't do endurance.

[–]Veegun 2 points3 points  (1 child)

When I think of runners the first thing that comes to mind is long distance runners. So there was probably a bit of bias there. I do agree with you.

If you're just running a short dist like 5k and really pushing yourself like you said; as long as you aren't eating too little in a deficit; then I have no problem with it.

I think the line draws in my opinion when you aren't doing any resistance training or you like emaciated like this guy http://www.fitmole.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/marathon_sprinter1.jpg

[–]Xoramung 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Eat healthy fats (Olive oil, fish, nuts, avocado, lean meats, coconut, cacao, etc) - at least 70g a day

Animal fats ARE HEALTHY fats son, get plenty of those, they will keep your brain going too. the best test is primarily made from animal fats.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

I had mine tested last December and was at 321. I recently have decided to look into it and was amazed my doctor told me I was FINE. It's fucking low dude. That female doctor had no idea what she was talking about. I literally just got blood work done again and am waiting to see what the results are. We're in the bottom 2.5-10th percentile of males depending on what study you look at. What's really interesting is that the average male's aged 20-30 (again depending on study) is in the 700's range.

So on average there are guys out there with twice as much testosterone as we have, and yet we're classified as being in a "normal healthy" range. If my tests come back low again I'm taking T back up to the 700's.

[–]EminemLovesGrapes 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What I read on illimitable men(I think) was that the "natural" accepted level of testosterone in your body kept getting set lower and lower.

This caused people who are around 300 these days to be said that they're normal but a few decades ago would've gotten put on therapy.

Article It has its biases but is pretty informative.

I'm in a bad spot myself but I'm attributing that to myself rather than low T.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea, I have read that article before on illimitable men. It's what prompted me to get blood work again actually

[–]BreakingRed_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right on the money. It's like the dumbing down of universities. They just test the average populace and that's how they extract the "normal" instead of correlating it with behavioral patterns etc. Meaning that if feminized males become the norm it's normal to be like them.

[–]funny_lyfe 42 points43 points  (13 children)

Make sure you get enough fat. It's easy to have low t when your body doesn't have the building blocks. Keto gave me mid day bonors that I had as a teenager. Always eat full fat meat, eat a couple of guacamoles to go packages everyday, and make some bullet proof coffee with coconut oil or butter in the morning.

Edit: Since this post got since traction. Might be worth checking out some articles.


Dietary fat in general (with a slight trend towards saturated fats) are known to positively regulate testosterone and androgen production. The magnitude of changes, however, are fairly small (below 20%)

[–]I_Need_More_Space_ 9 points10 points  (0 children)

How about just eat peanut butter mixed with coconut oil before downing some delicious coffee? I don't like my coffee tampered with. Its a serious condition I have. LOL

[–]LordThunderbolt 7 points8 points  (5 children)

That coffee and butter shit is legit? I've seen it posted here before. I'll do some research.

[–]boboliboliobli 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah bulletproof coffee. You use kerrygold butter and coconut oil and then blend it with coffee. Bunch of ppl talk shit on BP coffee but I know it’s popular among those doing Keto.

Also it’s frothy and delicious.

[–]funny_lyfe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I used to do kerrigold butter and full fat cream. But other option is to do MCT oil, or the cheapest option is to do coconut oil.

[–]Glitsh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yea. I did keto for a while and am about to get back into it. (excuses being money, but thats just excuses). Holy FUCK did the coffee hold me over. Went from a constant nagging of hunger to having to remind myself that it was lunch time and I needed my macros. Satiety was a huge game changer for me. A boost of confidence in how good you feel.

[–]roco-j 3 points4 points  (4 children)

What about olive oil? We always have plenty of it here, and it can be put on almost everything (mostly vegetables)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Olive oil is like the healthiest thing you could have. It lowers inflammation and helps with autophagy. It therefore raises SHBG which in turn raises testosterone unless there is something wrong with your balls/HPTA.

[–]aigamithite 19 points20 points  (1 child)

This is bro science, but nothing makes me feel like my test is spiking like sparring bjj/striking and squatting.

I wanna thank TRP from turning me from a scientist to a bro scientist - I am happier than I have ever been

[–]Throwawaysteve123456 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Buzzfeed is blue pill in it's purest form.

[–]LordThunderbolt 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Fuck you OP! I'm gonna raise my children to be gender neutral vegan Christians.

[–]beb0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cant lift for another 2 months (got tendonitis) is there anything to keep the T levels up instead

[–]rikleeRed42 4 points5 points  (4 children)

lifting doesnt raise your testosterone as much as people here think.

[–]Whatisthisbug3333 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Lol, no kidding.. it’s like 10 percent so if you’re at 300 you’re at 330 which is still 400 off the mark. Get checked out by a legit doctor folks. Testosterone is the number one driver of what makes us who we are. Don’t fuck around. Get checked out by a doctor.

[–]SquaatsForDays 2 points3 points  (4 children)

My T levels are also a joke at 393 at 23yrs old. However my doc wont prescribe me anything because he says my "body will grow into making more T rather than take drugs". Whatever...

I've also been looking into adding zinc into my daily regiment, as I already take Vitamin D, Omega3's, and Calcium. Would it be more beneficial to add regular zinc tablets of ZMA?

[–]22_sophomore 4 points5 points  (0 children)

22 years old and felt like shit for years. Non-stop anxiety, fatigue, apathy, low libido, etc... Made no sense considering I’m known among friends and family as a health nut.

Got my hormones checked, and my thyroid and testosterone were both rock bottom. Started thyroid and testosterone therapy and it’s slowly changing my life.

Get your shit checked boys.

Important bloodwork:

TSH FT3 RT3 Total Testosterone Free Testosterone LH/FSH SHBG Estradiol

If your doctor won’t test for the above, go through an online bloodwork lab. It’s fairly cheap and totally worth it. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me. I’m a med student working towards becoming and endocrinologist. This shit fascinates me and I’ve got a good grasp on hormonal health through 2 years of trial and error and countless blood tests.

[–]wanderer779 11 points12 points  (6 children)

This thread is getting bro-scienced to a point where it's not even useful. I don't know much about this but after some quick googling for some studies the takeaways were:


eat animal fat & protein

eat a balanced diet

get enough calories, as well as macro and micro nutrients

get enough sleep

don't be fat

if you aren't getting enough nutrients from your diet, supplement.


resistance training elevates T for a while. I've heard this doesn't last, but who cares, it helps with the other factors and it's fun and has other benefits. Cardio also appears to help, but I seem to recall some bad health effects from excessive cardio (defined as over 20 miles running a week if I remember right)


get some sun

don't stress yourself out. If you're chronically stressed you need to do something about it. Don't get annoyed by unimportant stuff like dudes who type up lists instead of writing paragraphs

don't work for buzzfeed

If anyone has more to add that isn't bro-science I'd love to hear it.

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[–]WolfofAnarchy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don Draper is a myth.

So that's why all those smoking and drinking men in the 50's were so full of Testosterone

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (12 children)

How do I test my own T levels?

[–]acetylcysteine 4 points5 points  (7 children)

go to a doctor and get free, total and bioavailable testosterone blood work.

[–]Wolverines_MAGA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's a link for different bloodwork tests for men. Just make sure you're not one of the states they do not provide service to.


[–]1kenpachitz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

winner effect

Given the context, this sounds like a conscious thing to do.

What is it exactly?

[–]Pooddit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There was a study that showed people who play shooter games and win a lot have more brain grey matter. Those that lost a lot had less.

People that dominate in everything that they do have more brain serotonin than those who don't. It can almost be said that for many people, the cause of their depression is being a loser.

Winners are people who commit to succeeding, to being rewarded for hard work.

How to become a winner: Set a reasonable goal, say, getting swole, and commit to getting from point A to point B, no matter what. This requires consistency, hard work, and constantly looking for ways to improve. You will realize that the obstacles are a given, and are a necessary part of the process. So much that without them, the game is no fun.

Being a winner has a compounding effect, just like being a loser does as well. The more successes you experience, the more efficient and effective you become at succeeding, in all things you do. There is a synergistic effect where successes in one area of your life spreads to other areas of your life. You just have to commit, point A to point B, use your creativity. Recognize the negative thoughts as simply something trying to keep you from point B. Negative people, work, life, woman, family, finances, all these things will keep you from succeeding if you let them. Be solution oriented. You only fail if you give up, but you can also remain stagnant, if you don't follow rule 3 above: constantly be looking for ways to improve.

[–]Extremely_Photogenic 7 points8 points  (40 children)

I just inject myself with Test and other shit and live life on easy mode

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (15 children)

Injecting impairs your bodies ability to naturally synthesise testosterone, if you stop, your levels will drastically plummet. Not to sound like a hippie, but in this case it is best to go all natural, raise levels by getting more red meat, eggs and whole milk (animal based sources of protein in general) and going to the gym as often as possible.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Not to imply that I am, but ultimately some people are the naturally superior to the modern beta Nu-male which society pushes to be desirable.

[–]Syll0gism 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Then don't stop injections

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would not suggest starting unless it is necessary- you should limit dependency upon things which may not be accessible in the future.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

If he’s anything like me he’s not planing on stopping. Living all natural is subpar to living supernatural.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree, but some individuals are ultimately the superior to others through superior genetics.

[–]Extremely_Photogenic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is objectively false. Anecdotally, my pre cycle test was the same as post cycle

[–]Whatisthisbug3333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol, doesn’t work like that. Thanks for the bro science though.

[–]mylittlehandgun 1 point2 points  (22 children)

been injecting for 4 weeks, dont really feel or look different

[–]Extremely_Photogenic 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Enanthate? You won't feel it until 4-8 weeks. I'm 4 weeks into my current cycle and 100% feel it. What's your dose?

[–]LibertyIsNotFree 2 points3 points  (13 children)

If you're injecting T and seeing no effect you're being a total pussy in the gym or a pussy refusing the gym.

[–]1walkingthelinux 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I am starting to believe that low T is the body's way of "de-tuning" things when there are genetic issues.

Using this logic, if your T is low it is because your body wants it that way.

I think this is a way of self-limiting reproduction by males with defective genes.

[–]Sonos 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It is a catalyst for hair loss too. Swings and roundabouts.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, you also need bad genes for hair loss. Some people also convert testosterone to DHT differently, so total T doesn't always tell the whole truth. In the end the question is usually about whether you're willing to lose your hair for a normal sex drive.

[–]lawlyer1216 1 point2 points  (1 child)

sleeeep! I am a multiple all nighter per week guy and when I got my t levels checked I was low. adequate sleep imo is one of the top reasons the stereotypical nerdy guy is extra frail (lifting is huge, but there are relatively ‘normal’ weight people who don’t lift). One of our biggest sources of natural t comes in deep sleep. Make sure your workouts don’t go to waste by getting adequate sleep.

[–]Veegun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This should be a wake up call to anyone who watches buzzfeed or doesn't lift

[–]cashmoney_x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Take ZMA (or at the very least, Zinc), make sure Vitamin D3 levels are good (sun exposure is best but supplements are cheap and work) and most importantly, eat a diet high in good fats and protein and low in carbs. I eat a ton of eggs and bacon and steak and chicken, lots of dark green veggies, and lots of nuts (Brazil nuts, almonds, walnuts). NO SOY, EVER. Cut back on dairy. Minimize processed foods as much as possible.

Lift weights (or at least do bodyweight exercises). Hit a heavy bag if you can get one. Sleep at least 6 hours per day.

Few months of this and you'll feel great.

[–]RedwallAllratuRatbar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have 300 which puts me in the middle of range. FUCK. They didn't tell me the range is based about 60 year old geezers. Time to ramp up those eggs and bacon

[–]Wolverines_MAGA 3 points4 points  (3 children)

All great tips and here are 4 that are always overlooked and don't get enough attention. Avoid at all costs... your health. Learn how to read labels!

  1. Soy - Zero tolerance on Soy
  2. Sugar
  3. Mono-unsaturated fats
  4. Poly-unsaturaded fats

This shit is in EVERYTHING, learn how to read labels. Don't get caught up by the smoke and mirrors when the package reads "Natural or Healthy". The devil is in the details and usually the products that use those catch phrases in bold on the packaging usually have more sugar, soy or any of the other shit they cooked up from the chemistry lab/experiment.

[–]Veegun 4 points5 points  (1 child)

What's wrong with monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats? Seems crazy to avoid nuts, olives etc

[–]Qbi99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unsaturated fats are very good, only if they're in cis-form. If they're in trans-from (for example: after heating) they are treated as saturated fats which is very unhealthy. Conclusion is that nuts and olive are very healthy but only in cool or room temperatures

[–]destraht 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Minerals are important as hell. I take vegetable derived zinc and I dose on seaweed for iodine once in a while. Then selenium helps the body get arid of weird junk that shouldn't be there. We need minerals to both produce stuff that should be there and minerals to remove stuff that shouldn't be there. There is a huge issue with our farming techniques since we run the soil ragged by injecting it with the equivalent of cheap testosterone, sugar and adrenaline and its very tired. The bacteria and fungus don't have enough time to break down the rocks into forms that can be absorbed by plant roots. That shit goes back to ancient times with ideas like letting the ground go fallow for seven years. They cheat it as much as possible by merely rotating with a short fallow time. People are mineral deficient and we are passively and actively intaking chemicals that our biology hasn't adapter to handle well and its low on the (mineral) tools.

[–]tibikush2012 2 points3 points  (9 children)

I see here advices on supplemeting with zinc, Vitamine D, omega 3 and what not.

Enough with the bro science. What lowers your T is lack of unaerobic exercise, not enough intake of mono and unsaturated fats and not having enough sex or atleast sexual arousal. I have never been supplementing with all the stuff people say here that you should take and my free T is high almost too high.

1)remember to check for FREE T or atleast have both total T and SHBG 2)remember as well that part of this is genetic and there is nothing you can do but to atleast max out your potential 3)AVOID FAKE FOOD AT ALL COSTS! ONLY eat fresh veggies and fruits, REAL meat (one that you must east at the same day or at max the day after after you buy it) and NOT INDUSTRIAL FOOD AND PRE PREP FOOD!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

"What lowers your T is lack of anaerobic exercise"

(Sorry don't know how to quote format)

That can be a big factor but there can be lots of other factors affecting your T production. Your pituitary gland, your thyroid, and the many hormones made in those places in your body can also affect your T levels (just as significantly). As can a myriad of other things.

[–]Raii-v2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought dailywire was a cucked out news source?

But then they post articles like this:


I don't even know anymore

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