Field ReportMy female housemate and her Sugar Daddies (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Wolveryn

These events unfolded 2.5 years ago now, although it seems like yesterday.

So I needed someone to fill the spare room in my apartment as I was paying crazy rent money for a 2 bedroom in Sydney city.

I meet this girl on Tinder, she's 22, from Germany staying in a hostel, great tits and body, fairly nice face. The night we meet, our friends with benefits relationship begins, I tell her I'm not looking for a girlfriend and I have 2-3 other women in my life that I bring around on a regular basis.

Anyway I get desperate to find a good housemate over the current weeks, so I let her take the room for short term (3 months). Which results in a weird situation where we're both seeing other people, but sharing a bed and fucking every now and then on the weekdays when we're both busy with work... as well as including her in FFM threesomes. At the time, a TRP advocate, follower and reader... I felt like my life was pretty much perfect.

Anyway she announces one day that she's read about a website for matching chicks with rich dudes... and she was poor, not enough hours working at a bar in the city, on basically minimum wage, she was stressed, so she starts thinking about signing up.

I said it's pretty gross, but do what you have to do to pay the rent.

Anyway, a few weeks go by, and she eventually does it for a whole weekend, earns $3000 cash. And has the next few Friday nights booked out with a guy in the rich eastern suburbs, who was semi retired early with a family, but the family is usually away.

She confides in me about the family photos on his walls, and how he explains that he loves his wife, but she fulfills his needs etc.

Now, the moment I see she's now a hooker, while amused at her mental gymnastics to tell herself otherwise...I tell her no more sex.

And she's somewhat offended by this, our relationship is slightly altered... but we remain friends and she continues to feel she can speak frankly with me... She also happened to be an excellent wing women when we'd catch up from time to time after work.

Then comes, we'll call him Bevan .

Bevan comes from California, Bevan is 34 years old, greying hair, but a youthful personality... he had been travelling with her before Sydney unbeknownst to me, and he had flown to see her, I had no idea about him til he arrived, but the guy it turns out was in love with her. She liked him, but found him too clingy, but strung him along for his trip to see her before flying back to california.

She stressed that he must never know about the sugar daddies.

She continues to run her new venture into tax free prostitution... which I was barely keeping up to date with as I was busy with work and staying at a Syrian/british girls house I'd met on Tinder most of the week...

Anyway Bevan flies back home, only to tell housemate that he'd like to pay for her flight to california to stay with him for 2 weeks and be his date for his family members wedding in Tahoe.

She accepts, free flights to the USA! But here's where it gets amusing, she's now on a bunch of sugar daddy websites, and lines up 2 guys in Vegas, and a trip on a luxury Yacht, where she has to fuck a bunch of old rich guys over the course of a week somewhere off the coast of California Presumably... which paid $15000.00

Anyway, she'd moved out of my apartment at this stage, but was still telling me in her german accent 'how crazaaaay the money is, and how fun it is'.

I test her on multiple occasions throughout this, "What would Bevan say, if he knew.".

She says "Don't be a fucking asshole, I'm telling you this in, how do you say... confidence?" in her strong german accent.

She gets on her flight.

And I get on Facebook.

I was new to TRP at the time, and still processing how good life can be when you just follow your balls and instinct regardless of the rules society expects of you...

I message the guy, and I tell him that it took me a long time, to decide whether I should tell him, as I was reading a lot of comments on line suggesting that I should stay out of it... but I couldn't in good conscience keep it from him a day longer, so I tell him about what she's been doing...

I tell him about her other plans, and why she was extending her trip to 'travel by herself around the USA' after seeing him.

The message was sent, and I go to bed as it was late and I had work the next day... knowing that while I slept she was on her flight to cali-forn-I-A expecting to be picked up by Friendzoned Bevan.

I check my messages in the morning, not sure how he would take it.

Sure enough, he writes:


Dude! Thanks for the heads up, yea I already suspected something strange was up and this confirms it. It's worse than I thought...

She and I need to talk.


I'm relieved he took it that way, as I was afraid he was going to redirect his anger at me somehow...

Anyway 2 things happened, she never spoke to me again. Fair enough! And Bevan never went to pick her up at the airport.

I felt a little bad that Karma got her for deceiving Bevan as it was true that I appreciated her honest chat, but I had simply asked myself... would I want to know if my women of interest was secretly a whore? Yes I would.

Karma in my opinion.

Bros before hoes.

I also learnt that I'd never have a female housemate like that again. And I suspect she learnt that she shouldn't have told me her plans.

[–]djmcwhite 344 points345 points  (69 children)

Pretty common nowadays, know so many girls with “no job” that travel and somehow drop on designer bags on the reg. It’s so obvious what is going on.

[–]Wolveryn 1 points1 points [recovered]

So true, you see the glamorous side of it on Instagram.

[–]Throwawaysteve123456 124 points125 points  (18 children)

Exactly. The amount of pseudo prostitution that occurs from, Instagram , is truly impressive. Lol

[–]TheDeadlyZebra 28 points29 points  (15 children)

It's not really pseudo prostitution. I think there are legitimate laws being broken, but chasing the paper trail is too difficult for average law enforcement efforts, and too little reward

[–]Dragon_Garoo 3 points4 points  (13 children)

Report her to IRS or whatever the equivalent is. You know she's not claiming that $$. Even if the prostitution is legal (which it is in many jurisdictions) the tax avoidance is not. Once they get a whiff of someone making serious money, they'll go full court press on all her accounts.

[–]youngzari 4 points5 points  (9 children)

How do you benefit from snitching?

[–]Dragon_Garoo 1 point2 points  (8 children)

You pay less taxes because they'll take what they owe the government? A lot of these hoes also take welfare/social assistance, and turn tricks on the side, living decent lifestyles from the 'gifts' they receive in cash and goods. It's obviously up to you, but I think a sense of civic duty and pride is something that has left our society, and is a reason why we're crumbling. Obviously, it's a personal choice. But why do you, as a man, slave away and pay your fair share, while others just suck away at the 'male tax'. It's a subject that's been discussed in the 'manosphere' and in the new-right as well, how so many men are going MGTOW and ending up just being the supporters of a gynocentric society; fatherless families, etc. Put it this way - if your boss was getting rich by not paying taxes, while you were still having to pay, would that seem right and fair to you? A cohesive society has rules and enforcement. Your call.

[–]celtiberian666 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You took this subreddit red bill, thats good.

But if you think about reporting someone to IRS, you're still on blue pill about governments.

[–]fastnail 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That's how the Arabs recruit girls to their sh*t on their face parties in Dubai.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 66 points67 points  (5 children)

"She look high class on the internet but she aint got shit she earn.

She got that bag from Juicy J

She got that ass from Rudi K.

Now your silly ass down on one knee, what the fuck man is you cray?

Deeeese Hooooooooes. They're for everybody.... Pass them all around they at every party. Don't bring your girl around there's just too much money. Man I love deese hoes."

  • Everybody by Juicy J

[–]Khannahk 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Rappers like Juicy J are incredibly red pilled, lol.

[–]SlothOnRoids 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Ever since joining this sub like 4 years ago, it always blows my mind how many rappers just know the game without ever reading one sentence out of a book or logging in some forum. It's all just learning from life experiences. Juicy J is a perfect example.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They were either previous thugs and/or once the fame hit, female nature revealed itself to them and every person they associate with on a regular basis.

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (16 children)

Some chick from my high school with big tits lives this lifestyle. She's honestly not even that hot. She's got an all right face and no ass.

Seems like a lot of desperate betas took the "I'm gonna make the most money I possibly can and then I'll just pay people to like me!" route. I mean in this day and age, maybe that was a smart thing to do. Make so much money you don't give a fuck about spoiling some thot, get laid, then let her be someone else's problem when you're done with her.

My cousin was in the same boat, she was using some harvard MBA for his money, going on fancy vacations, out to eat etc.. My cousin is not that attractive. She has a nice figure but her teeth are fucked up, she's got a white trash no filter personality and a single mom with two different baby daddies and welfare queen.

[–]ReddingtonsShitList 35 points36 points  (14 children)

Fuck... How thirsty do you have to be to go for that???

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (13 children)

I KNOW RIGHT? white women are spoiled AF. That's why they keep crying to daddy patriarchy for more more more.

[–]MGTOWManofMystery 17 points18 points  (7 children)

Not just white women do this -- plenty of Asian, Indian, Black, Mixed, Latina and other women are doing this. Just search one of those sugar dating sites like SeekingArrangements.

[–]OpiumDesVolkes84 12 points13 points  (0 children)

LOL on SeekingArrangements it is quite diverse. The whole spectrum of women are represented, even transgenders wanting a piece of the action. In fact white women are under represented on the site for their total population size. There seems to be a high number of Mixed women on the site.

[–]yoda35 1 points1 points [recovered]

Is that site really popular? or is it only work in big cities? It seems like a lot fakes

[–]Wolveryn[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Seekingarrangements was one of the main sites my house mate used, I created a fake male sugar daddy account on it, spotted a brazillian girl I'd met on Tinder also... I originally thought they were fakes until I looked into it further...

Average every day girls are using it, and they're not embarrassed about it either. I'd say 25% of the girls studying in Sydney city have either used it, or have at least created an account on it out of curiosity to see what their options are... I've spoken to a lot of really nice girls in my friends circles about it, I haven't met a single girl that didn't know about it, as it had been mentioned in womens magazines, womens forums, etc etc. Its extremely common now. If you meet a girl over 25 today, I'd say there's a high chance shes sold her body for sex at least once, and the more cute and innocent she is... the more likely.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I know of at least 5 people personally that are (or have been) on that site. A couple are pretty/pro's that work in rub'n'tugs, the rest are pretty average 6 or 7's, and a couple are 3-4's. They talk about 'going to meet a friend' and shit like that. Yup. "Friends". It's amazing what guys will pay for, but then, they don't have any drama and aren't having to chase anyone. Just pay and play and done.

[–]smirk_addict 10 points11 points  (4 children)

I agree. No demographic of people, male or female, has it easier. Yet they are the most vocal feminist. Women are women, don’t get me wrong. But I’ve never heard a black or Hispanic woman talk about some belief in a gender wage gap or rape culture. Of course I’m just speaking from my small sample size.

[–]OpiumDesVolkes84 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Agree. White women tend to be the most entitled and vocal feminists. Latinas are often more comfortable with traditional gender roles.

[–]Wolveryn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why (as a white man), I'd never recommend getting involved with a white women in a long term/marriage type relationship.

Maybe educated asian, Chinese, Japanese maybe Korean... or south American women... or russian/eastern european... not only are they waaaaay hotter, they're nicer human beings...

In the globalised world we're moving towards combined with the fact that asian women adore white men... I actually don't know why you'd waste your energy on an entitled feminist stroppy angry white girl.

[–]mcbenzene 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know a girl that being with a divorced and current Law student wanted me to fuck her. The thing is that she's young, with a baby, and uses this cuck to travel and shit.

Glad I dodged that bullet.

[–]djmcwhite 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Really think the last girl I dated was some kind of escort. Saw she was getting gifts & large amounts of money from “friends” dropped and went no contact real fast. Lesson learned: never date bottle service girls/bartenders.

[–]Drewbieee 6 points7 points  (2 children)

One time, a girl who I knew was a stripper/druggie (I was a bit of a druggie too, back then) clearly wanted my dick, so I went to her house for a long, long night of drug induced super fucking. We put on a movie an we’re starting to settle in when she pops up; her phone having buzzed, runs over to it, says “oh, ummm brb” runs out of the apartment. About 10-15 Later, she comes back with A FUCKIN GRAM OF HEROIN AND LIKE 600-700 IN CASH. Being that I’m not a fucking moron, I knew what was up, but I asked her to see how she would react. She told me that a “nice old man” just comes by randomly and gives her absurd amounts of Capital....for what, I ask? She says “oh nothing, we just talk/that’s gross/blah blah. Nope out of that shit

[–]Wolveryn[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Woah jeezus... I feel like this is a Field Report post in and of itself!

[–]Drewbieee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean that girl was a fucking train wreck. I swear to god, i fucked her in the garbage room of her apartment building the first date because her roommate was home. Then, roomie left, we went upstairs, chick shoots a massive shot of dope despite my warnings, and is like teetering on the edge of OD, lying on her back. I flipped that bitch over, took her phone, made her half conscious ass give me the code, took a pic of her and sent it to the room mate and said “I’m leaving in 5 minutes, she’s on her stomach and fucked up beyond belief or reason. I am not going to be here for whatever comes next, do what you will.” And then waited and left. Fuck that, man. I’m not going to prison over this suicidal junkie bitch. I have a lot of stories of this lunatic, honestly lol.

[–]DJ_Nade 35 points36 points  (4 children)

An old high school friend of mine literally posts pics with the old guys and shit lmao. Everybody knows what's up but she doesn't give a fuck. More power to her I guess?

[–]mcbenzene 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Just sit and watch. You'll be laughing once she reaches the wall.

[–]fastnail 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, she is on the cock carousel...her epiphany moment awaits on her sexual decline.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know one girl been working for as long as I've known her; posts stuff on FB like "Teach your daughter to get an education so she doesn't have to do this" (Pic of a hot girl with a fat old guy on the beach). Have literally seen her out with same. $.

[–]CSMastermind 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Seriously, I know a few girls that do this. One even got a guy to pay a house for her.

[–]wsba910am 106 points107 points  (19 children)

I was out with this girl, walking around town. We were laughing and playing around, it was a good date, we'd just heard some live music from a local artist and shared a beer and a light dinner together. As we pass by a piano store, she gets this arch look on her face and proceeds to tell me a story. FIrst words out of her mouth were "I told you I was married twice, right?" I'm like in my head "no f-ing way you did" but I let it go on to hear what she was going to say.

She tells me about her first husband, how in love with her he was. He was a major corporate lawyer or something, and when their relationship was tanking, he wanted to show her he loved her, so he bought her a massive grand piano. SHe laughed about the gesture cynically, then told me that she sold the piano almost immediately afterward for like $10 grand. Took the money, then flew to Vegas with her brother and gambled it all away. She was chuckling and giggling the entire time she told me about this.

And I'm thinking to myself how savage she is. What an ungrateful person. For one, to do that to that guy. For another, to laugh about it. And for the third thing, what about that piano? That's a great piano!

REminds me of the time my biomom threw out all my biodad's furniture and clothing when she kicked him out of the house he bought and paid for, and tossed it off the second floor into a pile below, and set it on fire at night with some neighbor kids over to gloat over the blaze. Complete psycho. Now she hates me. Go figure

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy 69 points70 points  (7 children)

Its one thing to blow the money away on purses or other useless shit but she blew it on binge gambling.. pathetic.

She literally could have stashed that 10k and earned at least an ounce of respect from me. Bitches cant handle money, especially when it comes from a nasty icky beta.

[–]TheSebitti 1 points1 points [recovered]

That piano would have been worth over 80k. She’s an idiot.

[–]Adach 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Yea that's what I was thinking, someone got a piano for a steal

[–]PsyMonk- 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Man I'm so disgusted right now this comment section deserves a sidebar thread of its own......... NEVER MIX WOMEN & MONEY.

[–]fastnail 4 points5 points  (0 children)

PsyMonk- " You lose money chasing women, but you never lose women chasing money"

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Both those rotten cunts are gonna hit the wall hard.

Then joe the plumber, the good hardworking tax payer who just wants to live a good life, support his family, and be a good neighbor will foot the bill.

This is why there used to be witch hunts.

[–]mcbenzene 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When people feared God, this didn't used to happen frequently. Now it's the new normal. Degenerate and sad at the same time.

[–]fastnail 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Men pay for those bitches through hard work and toil.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup just modern day serf-dom tbh..

[–]TheNextMilo 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It breaks my heart when people don't see the value of a piano.

[–]wsba910am 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True! I was thinking how I could work that into the post, but you said it.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Lol, only a loser would buy some girl a $10,000-$80,000 item and then to 'earn' her love on top of that. He deserved it. The dumb part was wasting it on Vegas instead of investing or starting a business venture.

[–]jiveraffe 1 points1 points [recovered]

Here's the thing, I can understand the reasoning behind it. It's male logic: the person I love loves a thing, I will get them that thing because I love them. They will appreciate it.

It's male projection at its finest.

[–]smirk_addict 307 points308 points  (18 children)

You did that dude a solid. Sometimes it’s really hard to watch a woman fuck over a decent guy. Before learning more about women and coming here, I just couldn’t fathom the depraved and fucked up shit women do while still stringing a guy along like their something special. If it’s no detriment to you, I think it’s admirable stopping a guy from being a chump.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy 105 points106 points  (11 children)

Im going to come in with a different POV here:

He shouldve never told Bevan. Why? First off, hes not a "bro." A bro is a friend, a homie, that you have bonded with. A stranger is not a bro. 99% of the time, these random stranger "bro"s will fuck your bitch without thinking twice.

He could have been a crazy beta. I dont need to name the type of stuff these guys are capable of doing. And last point: She could have flipped it on him for outting her in a dramatic fashion by stranding her in California. She could have accused him of rape, harassment, any bullshit she wanted.

Any woman who becomes a prostitute is an extremist. They are prone to and open to pulling the Rape CardTM on anyone. Why? They are not scared to exploit their female priviledge, they do it on the extreme end via escorting.

Risk all of this just to "save a bro" he never met. These guys gotta get smoked themselves to learn. He was a BetaBux so he needs to learn his lesson and evolve from it on his own. No handouts

[–]vwzwv 50 points51 points  (1 child)

I personally wouldn't feel obligated to call the guy. That said, I'm calling BS. Anything you mentioned she could do, she could also do later, easier as they would be further involved.

[–]fuggboi_xd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Difference being that in this case he gave her a pretty good reason to do it. Typically women don't do that out of the blue.

[–]cat-gun 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Although no doubt some prostitutes have at times falsely accused men of rape, a working girl is much less likely to do so than a regular girl, IMO. Most sex workers typically want to hide their profession from their friends and family--a rape trial will out them. In jurisdictions where sex work is illegal, it also exposes them to arrest and imprisonment, or getting extorted at the hands of the police.

[–]tk421awol 1 points1 points [recovered]

There’s a difference between a streetwalker and these tinderella sugar baby “not-a-prostitutes” like the chick in this story. A prostitute knows what she is and generally has no qualms with that. These instagram princesses can lie to themselves and anyone else. He is right to be cautious with that level of crazy.

[–]cat-gun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree that the woman in the story is bad news. I just don't agree that prostitutes in general should be painted with the same broad brush.

[–]fastnail 1 point2 points  (0 children)

tk421awol - Yep, the princesses hamster will spin at 100,000 RPM to justify her behavior.

[–]pmmedenver 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Everyone needs help from time to time. Depending on how you look at it, red pill could be considered giving free knowledge handouts.

[–]sigma272 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think OP got pretty lucky because the guy was obviously seeing the red flags in her. If he was still in oneitis mode, he may have attacked OP for besmirching his "angel's" reputation. I have tried being Captain Save-A-Bro and it usually worked out that way. Nowadays i let things run their course and avoid the drama.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP doesn't owe him shit, OP doesn't owe her shit either, but sometimes it's just satisfying to throw some gasoline onto someone else's dumpster fire.

[–]JackGetsIt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think they probably rationalize it that it will just make a weak dude stronger or that they enjoy the punishment. Maybe in a warped way it's true.

[–]OpiumDesVolkes84 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Very true and the only real revenge is the MGTOW concept of women hitting the wall at 30-35 and losing the privileges they once had while they were in their prime. They really become old news and only continue to lose power the older they get.

I would compare women to gigantic blue stars. They burn bright and magnificently, but have a short lifespan compared to regular stars like our sun. Blue stars literally burn out all of their fuel supply rapidly and die sooner. Men that take care of themselves are more like the sun. Burning their fuel supply consistently for a extended period of time.

[–]fastnail 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Women age like milk, men age like fine wine (-:

[–]TheNextMilo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’ve seen some guys picking up til the age of around 40-50. Pure game, no money involved.

[–]FlyingSexistPig 30 points31 points  (2 children)

A hot girl in her 20's can make more money off her body than any man in his 20's can make doing (almost) anything. A hot girl in financial trouble will likely take this deal.

[–]mcbenzene 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Patreon female cosplayers are more than enough evidence of this.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The existence of Patreon is enough evidence that sex sells, along with all the other evidence that's been there since the beginning of civilization

[–][deleted] 125 points126 points  (64 children)

I met this chick in my class one time. I was a 27 year old grad student and I just needed an extra class. She was an undergrad, 21 or 22 I believe. We got in the same group for a project. This girl had the worst personality ever. Totally vain and vapid. Incredibly lazy in class. My God she was hot though. Near the end of the semester she started giving me more attention and talking to me more, probably because I didn't act like a desperate bitch around her. She eventually told me how every guy she dates just tries to sleep with her on the first night and why can't she get a boyfriend blah blah blah. She also said one of her friends was on one of these sugar daddy websites and she was considering it too because she basically had given up on a relationship. Think about how awful this person must be, an 8.5 that can't get a guy to date her.

One day she offers to drive me home because it was pouring rain out. She had been steadily flirting with me more and more, and after we got in her car we were both soaked and she goes "oh look, you got me all wet..." with a little smile. I'm thinking this is going to be the easiest score ever. Back at my place we cracked open some beers. I was escalating and she seemed receptive. I go in for a kiss and she rejects me - like a hard no question about it rejection. I laughed a bit because it was so outrageous - literally never been led on so hard to be rejected at the last minute. It was so awkward that she left shortly after.

I'm racking my brain wondering what the fuck just happened, and the only conclusion I can come to is that she was sick of "guys trying to get with her on the first date" and was actually trying to... I don't know, take it slow and date me or something. How she could think I would be romantically interested in her after she told me she was considering using a sugar daddy website is beyond me, but that's the state of affairs now I guess. Every guy must have been so off-put by her personality that they decided to try to close hard and fast because investing time in her would be so painful. She probably has no idea how to signal interest without being completely slutty because that's all that guys have ever responded to for her.

I really wonder to this day if I drove her to prostitution.

[–]Wolveryn 1 points1 points [recovered]

LMAO, based on that, if she ended up in prostitution/sugar daddy websites, she was heading there regardless of your influence on her.

The reality is probably that she was currently reading a relationship advice book, that advised her to hold off on the guy she likes.

Obviously you weren't into her for her personality and so her playing hard to get meant you moved on immediately, like a solid TRP boss... only a man with good options would think that way... so I salute you.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (11 children)

Haha well she would've been the hottest girl I ever got with. The salute is nice but goddamn, she's the notch that got away. It could be that I somehow fucked it up honestly. I have to be honest that I was a bit shocked that a girl so hot was coming onto me that strongly. She might have sniffed some weakness in retrospect.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

In my experience girls that flirt directly are harder to bang than girls who act nervous or shit test you. Who knows what goes through their minds?

[–]chauncy_popperstein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I kinda agree... But not totally. I've gotten some very easy hook ups from flirty girls. It brings out my playful side and then the escalation is on "fast forward".

[–]Hnikud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can confirm, but it is because these girls like to give false leads and then play around for you to chaste them.

[–]JackGetsIt 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Sounds like she was coming off an alpha pump and dump (or several)and was feeling worthless. You were good enough to toy with but she probably would have just strung you along and still not fucked you, or at least only fucked you sparingly, because all she wanted was to know there's some guy out there that wanted to put her on a pedestal.

You played the right card by walking; it was all just an elaborate grab at a potential beta orbiter and you didn't play that game.

[–]grewapair 92 points93 points  (20 children)

I had a woman from my office ask me to get coffee and she tells me this whole story about how she basically used her now ex husband for money during the last 5 years of a ten year marriage. She made him sleep on the sofa, never lifted a finger for the guy, but she didn't make enough money to live on her own so she pretended to stay married to him until he finally pulled the plug. The divorce was final 6 months before our coffee.

Then two weeks later, I get a drunk e-mail from her complaining that I never got the hint from coffee and asked her out.

Why on earth she thought I would want a woman like her is beyond me. And it was bad enough for her to do it to that guy, bad enough she didn't try to hide it, but she practically bragged about it. Apparently, I was supposed to willingly become her next victim?

[–]1empatheticapathetic 36 points37 points  (4 children)

She saw you as Chad and spilled Her AWALT beans in hopes to impress you. Then you didn't pick up the ball and pump and dump her. She couldn't justify any other possibility and the repercussions.

[–]magnificent18 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Yes but she was from work. Dont shit where you eat.

[–]grewapair 15 points16 points  (1 child)

How do you pump and dump someone you see every day?

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah, didnt sound like she was trying to make him a "victim." A victim would imply that he is going to marry her. She just saw him as Chad as you said. Odd way of doing it, but it was an attempt.

[–]Wolveryn 1 points1 points [recovered]

Haha wow, I met a women similar on Tinder once, had an ex, used him for money, bragged about it to me. She was 20 something with 2 kids with the guy, who paid child support allowing her to work on business from home. She stated it like she had beaten some chump adversary... and that it was info I should be impressed by, I finished my beer, she finished her wine. I told her its been nice, but I have to go... didn't even bother with a reason why.

[–]beginner_ 28 points29 points  (1 child)

This lack of shame that is a consequence of feminism is actually a great thing for us. No need to make judgment calls when they so easily discredit themselves.

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In some ways its great. Like all of the blue haired slobs out there with a womens studies degree and an attitude that would piss a golden retriever off? In your grandfathers generation he had to learn to filter out toxic women like that, some of whom would have been actively trying to hide it. Now its like they have DAMAGED stamped on their foreheads in block letters.

[–]wisty 7 points8 points  (0 children)

20 something, 2 kids, she's probably 18 years away from the next chance at a solid relationship, by which stage she's pushing 40.

Claiming she's "beaten some chump adversary" is a lie, and it's probably not really aimed at you.

[–]mcbenzene 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The thing is that fucking her after she brags about all of that shitty behavior is to validate it. Now she feels like shit because you did not validate her shitty behavior.

It is the same with crazy bitches. If you fuck them you are basically validating her craziness and/or her shitty behavior.

Of course, it's not like we should care, but the reason they keep going unchecked is because some Chad or pseudoalpha ends up fucking them.

[–]Wissenschaft85 10 points11 points  (7 children)

She might have just gotten a rise out of you by being the one to reject the man. An indirect way of getting back at previous men that rejected her. People can be petty.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Well if that's the case I wish her the best of luck in her promising career of quasi-prostitution.

[–]Wissenschaft85 1 point2 points  (5 children)

That could have been bullshit too. Who needs old men when she can just get boyfriends to buy her stuff.

Never trust anything, especially when the girl practically out right says shes a slut.

[–]kelvin_condensate 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Because older men tend to have a much greater disposable income and can thus spend much more than some broke ass boyfriend could.

[–]Wissenschaft85 0 points1 point  (1 child)

And yet theres still plenty of women who just manipulate their boyfriends then go after richer men. What you say is logical but yeah.....that requires logic.

[–]kelvin_condensate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is logical for women to do both. They can fuck chads while securing wealth from older men.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why would someone lie about that? It makes you look terrible in anyone's eyes.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I don't know, take it slow and date me or something. How she could think I would be romantically interested in her after she told me she was considering using a sugar daddy website is beyond me, but that's the state of affairs now I guess

Girls like this are WAY more socially clueless than guys give them credit for. Like your stereotypical "meathead chad" she probably relied on her looks and a little charm to get by for most of her life since she hit puberty and never really had to think anything through logically. In other words, they're simply just spoiled.

Plus in today's generation where both parents work, or are often not together or communicating other than for child support and other legal issues.. They don't actually raise their kids. They just deposit money in their account and send a "love you lots xoxo" so these kids grow up to be soulless little demons who will do anything they can get away with without the slightest regret within the confines of common law or til they get locked up.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yep. Regarding meathead chad, I had a random guy roommate once. He was pretty tall and decently good looking and played college baseball. He had a lot of stories about hot chicks in college, but I never saw him hook up with a single girl or go on a single date in the 6 months I lived with him. I really think he just had no idea how to pursue women because it was just automatic pussy being a college athlete.

[–]askmrcia 17 points18 points  (9 children)

God I had a very similar story. Except I was working at the mall and this one girl worked at another store. Anyways she used to come up to my cashier and flirt, but in a childish innocent type of way. She even used to buy me drinks (soda) for work.

I was 24 and she was 20 I think. Eventually her friends used to come up to me and tell me how much she liked me.

Fast forward a few weeks, I eventually ask her to come over to my place, which is like 30mins from me. Its also important to note that within those few times we talked, she gave me the whole "all guys just want to sleep with me" speech and how she can't find a real guy. Oh and she used to snap chat me pics of herself half naked and how much she loves to cuddle. even made jokes about how hot I was and how she wanted my babies. No BS.

So anyways, she comes to my place wearing thongs and the tightest short shorts ever. I'm thinking to myself "I got this in the bag."

We cuddled up on my couch and she tells me she wants to play GTA5 (which was one of the reasons she came over). I'm thinking to myself is she just saying that or she serious. So I play like one small mission on there and start rubbing her legs and then I went for the kiss. She stopped me full blast and said she only wanted to play GTA and cuddle.

I'm like WTF? She then tells me that she can't hookup with me on the first date. So eventually she leaves. It was awkward as fuck and I honestly had no idea what went wrong.

Then on her facebook the next day she puts this rant out saying how all guys just want sex and how all guys were assholes.

I was shocked. Didn't see it coming at all. This chick lead me on and gave me blue balls hard as fuck. Then posts that? I swear sometimes I think chicks love being cock teases. I truly do. I know all about LMR, but this shit was different.

[–]MustNotFfff 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well she could have been confused herself. She was dressed in tight shorts so she was operating in her usual MO but maybe she was simultaneously hoping for a different course of events - i.e. no sleeping on the first date. This is double so considering that going out on dates rarely happens these days.

Just being the devil's advocate here.

[–]1ozaku7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Beats me why chicks wear that kind of stuff and expect to be treated like innocent women. It's like Michael Schumacher showing up to a race in his racing suit all prepared and then be like "What? No! I am not racing today!".

[–]OpiumDesVolkes84 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Or maybe she just needed a little more time to warm up. I would have played more missions of GTA5 and gave the controller to her to play. Let her feel relaxed and progressively get closer and closer together on the couch.

[–]askmrcia 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I tried that, I just left that part of the story out because I didn't want to ramble on and on.

I played a few missions while we were cuddled up on the couch. I did hand her the controller and she played for like three mins. Then passed it back saying she only wanted to watch me play.

Also this happened around 9pm. And she lived close to an hour away. Plus she had to work in the morning. So I knew playing it slow would kill me. And she didn't want to drink. We also went out for dinner beforehand and she didn't eat anything other then my fries.

The flirty snaps and text messages, she knew what was up.

Honestly I just felt she was major cock tease. It was no last LMR. I know the difference and I know how to move past it. I have gotten women that told me straight up they weren't going to have sex with me and they did. This was different.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To both you and OP, this is classic LMR and you took her initial stop "full blast" at face value. You need to push past that point. 2 Steps forward 1 step back.

A girl that shows up wearing sexy clothes and hangs out with you alone is for sure thinking about fucking you. The only ways she doesn't is one, not conquering LMR, or two, she changes her mind as she finds out as you hang out that you're actually beta.

[–]yoda35 1 points1 points [recovered]

that sucks, do you think she would have let u go down on her instead of kissing? maybe a light massage?

[–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I tried man. I rubbed her legs first and she didn't do anything. Then I went for the kiss and she pushed me away and said stop. Tried again only a little more gentle, she told me to stop again.

Since she knew where I worked I didn't want to risk going further. The whole facebook blowup was proof that she had issues.

[–]yoda35 1 points1 points [recovered]

weird. she could have an ex-bf and was feeling sad over being dumped so she used u as a nice-guy distraction/confidence booster. Were u pushing for sex? A lot of girls won't have sex on the first date, so why would she think kissing would lead to sex? Just tell her you only want to kiss and no sex. She might have though you were pushing to hard or being too gropey for sex. Is she a virgin or inexperienced? Did she want to plan a second date? Usually people kiss at the end of the date, so maybe you were too early?

[–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

weird. she could have an ex-bf and was feeling sad over being dumped so she used u as a nice-guy distraction/confidence booster.


Were u pushing for sex? A lot of girls won't have sex on the first date, so why would she think kissing would lead to sex?

We made out once before this happened. She invited me out with her friends and we made out in the parking lot.

might have though you were pushing to hard or being too gropey for sex.

Ehhh I mean it's possible. But if a chick is telling me she wants my babies and telling me how sexy I am and wants me to send her shirtless pics, I'm not going to pussy foot around.

Is she a virgin or inexperienced?

She most was.

she want to plan a second date?

This happened like 5 years ago. But no second date after her little Facebook rant

[–]smirk_addict 23 points24 points  (3 children)

She sounds like your typical cock tease.

[–]jackandjill22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea. Or she was just playing him.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Could be yea. It didn't really feel like that though.

[–]smirk_addict 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t trying to insult your intelligence by saying that’s something you could have saw coming. Just saying it happens often.

[–]red_matrix 4 points5 points  (2 children)

What do you normally do to deal with LMR? It's kind of a subconscious thing for most girls, tend don't even know they're doing it when they want to get laid.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I honestly have only had LMR this one time since I graduated college. I know the philosophy here is to push through it, but for me personally I just feel that a bang is not worth a possible rape accusation. LMR seems to be more of a thing that psycho chicks pull

[–]kelvin_condensate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You sure this wasn’t some LMR?

[–]VanityKings 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I try to stay out of other peoples affairs since it's not my problem and I'd rather not make it mine, but if he is a decent dude I say follow the bro code

[–]binarynightmare 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Everyone knows what a sugar daddy is and that these relationships eixst, but people vastly underestimate the number and broad spectrum of women who at least give it a try.

I would say that about 1 out of every 4 collegiate girls are not completely opposed to the idea of riding an old dude's dick for a stack, so long as he is not gross and takes her to a nice dinner beforehand.

If you have a free hour, signup for a free Seeking Arrangements account and browse the women in your city, it's very eye opening.

[–]vzhu 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You're fucking lucky she didn't try to pull some bullshit on you after pulling off a stunt like that.

[–]Sotokun3000 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Congrats for letting him know. At this environment where the entire society is pro men-oppression it is important that we help each other see the true nature of the game played against us.

Far more important than a fickle female "friendship"

[–]shakespeareSMG 6 points7 points  (2 children)

This is the future for many women under 35 who see that education is too costly and other avenues such as hard work pay no dividends.

Welcome to modernity.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem3 33 points34 points  (10 children)

I don't know that i would do the same thing if I were you after reading trp the last few months. Not my life, not my problem. I see dude doing all kinds of stupid shit in the gym, I use to be the guy, going up to guys telling them not to do this or how to correct there form etc...now I don't say nadda. Focus my energy on my life and my next lift. What do you think?

Besides, if she's hot and pulling in cash, she's an asset. You don't have to fuck her. Bevan would still be fucking her...were you thinking she could give him an STD? I dk. I certainly understand why someone would do that but it could also come.back to bite you, after all she told you in confidence, you broke it. Btw, I am not judging you, just looking at it from both sides.

[–]Wolveryn 1 points1 points [recovered]

Yea to be honest, if I knew then what I know now, I would have done things differently. And even at the time it was a grey area to me... it just grated on my conscience that this guy had bought her $2000 flights, he was working class, and I knew the feeling of falling head over heels for a chick that doesn't really reciprocate that feeling...

I gained nothing from it except the feeling of influencing karma and helping a blue pilled guy see the truth.

[–]Patriarchysaurus 75 points76 points  (0 children)

You did a good deed. Don't let the spergies around here tell you being 100% self-interested is necessary or even desirable. You didn't bother lecturing your housemate about her whoring, instead you let her divulge her guilt & used that information selfishly/narcissistically for an altruistic purpose.

DT done right.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem3 4 points5 points  (5 children)

I am not sure about either alleged benefit (karma nor him seeing the truth) took place. It's the equalivant of what women do when they find out a guy is sleeping around with two girls or playing a girl and the girl contacts the other girl to let her know. She says "Your man is cheating on you, I thought you should know..."

It's may nor be your place to be judge and jury. Again I am not saying your wrong or judging you because you did this, my question is "Is that our place to do that?" I could see if the so-called roommate turned pro did something fuxked up to you and then you got even, but in this you just felt bad for the guy...anyway that was my thought and saying nothing is certainly NOT sociopath. You can feel for someone but not intervene in their lives. It's called minding your own business. What if he went into a fit of rage and hit her??? You see?

[–]Wolveryn 1 points1 points [recovered]

Hmm I see your point, and it comes down to my judgement of his character... and seeing some of myself - TRP in him.

It made sense to me at the time.

Would I have done it today knowing what I know now? Mmm maybe not.

Another factor not explicitly mentioned, was related to the fact that I was still digesting the red pill, and parts of me still had the angry phase coming up despite my desire to really get past it... I guess you could say it shocked me how perfectly she could lie and deceive... infallible... and this realisation has huge implications for the world I thought I knew...

[–]Rollo_Mayhem3 1 point2 points  (3 children)

When you put it like that, certainly makes sense why you did what you did. Sorta of cosmic justice for the way you may have been treated in the past by women. This was your way of getting back at women, taking out your anger. All grist for the mill.

[–]TheDevilsAdvokaat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Good on you mate. Years ago someone had to tell me my gf was cheating on me - because I didn't know - and I thanked him too. And dumped her.

[–]AlphaGrad 8 points9 points  (3 children)

All women are whores. They just sell different sides of their personas to different people.

[–]ovrload 9 points10 points  (1 child)

even the shy girls turn out to be whores to the right person...

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

makes me wonder if that personality trope isnt just a well rehearsed act that women learn to do as a smokescreen

[–]wsba910am 9 points10 points  (3 children)

i would just like to say, thank you for growing some balls and for choosing to be a good guy over being mentally spellbound by a hot girl's looks. it was very hard when i was younger to find male friends who wouldn't change their personality when a hottie walked into the room/bar.

thanks for inspiring us to be more honest and bold with each other

[–]Wolveryn 1 points1 points [recovered]

Meh...You read enough TRP and its hard to see things any other way.

When you reach your late 20's you start to realise how unimportant chasing pussy is... and important chasing personal success for you is. Gym, education, career, wealth, happiness.

When you realise that, and you have options... and you realise changing personality to get laid isn't fun, respectable or attractive... then combine this with the fact that you're too busy for bullshit... you develop a no bullshit policy, and value your personal morals and long term goals over short term pleasures.

[–]Charrington84 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone get that bish a tag the sponsor T-shirt

[–]askmrcia 2 points3 points  (1 child)

First off this was an amazing story. I don't know. Stories like these I always get a kick out of when I read them on here.

Second, this just proves one thing to me. If a chick is dirt poor, she is worthless. There is literally no excuse for a chick to be dirt poor.

I mean this chick worked as a bartender barely making money and yet she has dudes flying all over the world to come see her.

I know plenty of chicks like this. There was a group of girls that worked at a fast food joint where I used to work at in college. All these girls were gorgeous yet they barely had money.

You look at their instagrams, and they have top of the line fashion and are able to afford vacations all over the USA. I always thought to myself how the fuck can they afford so much money.

Then I found out through word of mouth that they these thirsty ass rich dudes do it for them. This is very common. Its the same with my sister's friends. All have worthless ass degrees and can't get a real job. Yet on their instagrams its the same story. Somehow they are able to fly out to Vegas whenever they want and can afford to go into clubs with $40 cover charges. Its the same, they all claim they like to date older men. Few of them was even hounding me to hook them up with my friend who was a doctor. He was 36 and they were like 22 at the time.

I'm not saying these chicks find these guys online on sugar dating websites, but they no doubt find rich dudes to pay for them. All those IG whores you guys see with the thousands of followers and hundreds of pics of them on vacations, this is how.

The world aint fair gentz.

[–]LordThunderbolt 11 points12 points  (4 children)

First you stop having sex with her, then you become her emotional tampon, then you dont even get to touch or taste a single one of those dollars she made being a whore.

The real story here is about you and how you failed to capitalize on the situation due to your weakness. If u had stopped fucking her, you should've at least found a way to get her to buy you shit or give you money. You gained nothing from her at all.

[–]Pastelitomaracucho 25 points26 points  (3 children)

This is not Bros before hoes. This is you wanting the girl go down because you couldn't stand she could make 15k a week on pussy power alone. Edit: which you pretty much prove on your comments below. It gave you pleasure to instill "revenge" in someone who pretty much did nothing to you, just because you feel that the scale is not balanced in men's favour and that somehow we men have to stick together...

Creating an external enemy is the typical shallow, demagogue strategy for justifying one's incapacity to tackle problems and challenges. Nothing different from your typical gang of vindictive feminists, frustrated commies, supremacists, etc.

[–]lIIlllIIlIIllIlllIIl 1 points1 points [recovered]

OP saw someone being deceived, and did a small favor for a stranger. You're reading too far into it, and borderline white knighting.

[–]Extremely_Photogenic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This guy gets it

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 6 points7 points  (7 children)

2 questions:

  1. Why did you stop fucking her when you found out she's a escort?

  2. Why did you decide to tell the dude what she's doing?

[–]Wolveryn 1 points1 points [recovered]

Escorts open the door to riskier sexual partners. The risk is at an order of magnitude higher than fucking beautiful women on Tinder in FWB relationships. I had so many options it wasn't funny, I was gymming 6 days a week, I had my diet absolutely perfect for building a solid physique... why would I want to fuck a prostitute? The STD's man, the dodgy depraved cock she's receiving is at best just not attractive. It's where I draw the line. You have to draw it somewhere... I saw some of myself in him, and I knew what its like to fall head over heels for a women who doesn't reciprocate the feeling. I could see he was being taken advantage of, he had just bought her $2000 flights, and I had given her multiple hints that I didn't agree with it all. I had suggested to her she should be open and honest with him no matter where that takes the relationship. Then there was my conscience, it was grating on me, not saying anything would have resulted in me feeling like shit beyond my control. Edit* @Hillarysdilddo_2016 You reframe the situation in your comments in a way that removes the situation so far from reality that it becomes a completely different situation... at least from my perspective.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The risk is at an order of magnitude higher than fucking beautiful women on Tinder in FWB relationships.

Makes sense. I immediately assumed you went BP b/c she fucks other men for $, my bad.

I had suggested to her she should be open and honest with him no matter where that takes the relationship.

You argued and made logical arguments for a woman to change her mind. Good luck with that, especially considering he's her orbiter.

[–]Wolveryn 1 points1 points [recovered]

Read the end of the post lol

[–]icedupsmackhead 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You are the man the world needs, not the one it deserves. <3

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (20 children)

Not your circus, not your monkeys.

Should have stayed out of it.

What did being a snitch get you?

Validation, "bros before hoes" mentality?

Think about why you did it then show it wasn't either a lash out at women for being women or an act to make you feel morally superior.

Which are both shitty reasons to do anything.

Snitches get stitches for a reason.

[–]Neo_Trunks 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Yeah, but wouldn't you want to be warned (If you were in Bevan's shoes)? He ultimately did the right thing, no alpha or beta deserves to be tricked like that. Sometimes guys can watch each others backs, we're not animals.

[–]BrownGummyBear 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Girls are constantly watching each other backs. God forbid a red pill guy helps another guy out though "that's so beta bla bla" 😒

[–]Neo_Trunks 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Not everything is black and white. Some dudes need help sometimes.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Bevan is bluepill. He deserved what comes his way.

Every time someone mentions "it's the right thing to do","karma", "justice", "moral", etc.

Take a long hard look at what's being sold to you. Chances are it's NOT in your best interest, because it has to be sold to you. You're being coopted to behave a certain way in spite of your own beliefs.

Pro-con... I don't see any pro in telling. Con.. Bevan could be pissed that you're lying to him, and send a few goons to kick the shit out of you for "lying" about his girl.

We are animals.

You have to understand that nobody is going to take care of you or "have your back". Taking care of number one is rule number one.

[–]Wolveryn 1 points1 points [recovered]

If you’re talking about gangs or prisons that saying makes sense... but you’re not. You're talking about a guy living a long way away from Australia... in the USA. He'd have to fork out another $2000 to come and kick my ass.. and this assumes he didn't believe me... but his dialogue 110% confirms he did.

[–]CuckedByTRUMP 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Every single TRP endorsed person is saying this post is terrible and OP should have stayed out of it but the beta males came here from incels and are upvoting this like crack. They love giving a woman "what she deserves." Get this shit off this sub.

[–]Mithra9009 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem I have with helping guys like this is that the women learn their mistake and then, rather than change, simply improve their deception. I wouldn't mind helping them if the fact that they were helped could somehow be kept secret.

[–]MGTOWManofMystery 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would have been better (in terms of protecting yourself) to somehow send Bevan an anonymous message IMO.

[–]DramatisedReaction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair though, rent prices in Sydney are fucked up, so I can see why she would do that.

I enjoyed the story though - another example of AWALT

[–]eaeulis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i think Bevan should become a RP character as Chad is in here, but you know symbolizing "betaness"

[–]TO_throwaway1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there virtue in sleeping with men for free vs sleeping with men for money?

[–]jewishsupremacist88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bevan isnt/wasnt your problem. I'd mind my own business.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you did the right thing mate

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 20 points21 points  (18 children)

She was sleeping with you and a bunch of other guys and didn't bother you, then suddenly she gets paid for it and now it does? You stopped hitting it because money got involved?

Who gives a shit if a strange girl wants to sleep around and get cash for it. How is that not much smarter than the ones that do it for free? Why do you care about some beta that flies to see his oneitis? You warned him? Jesus.

Any guy with any sense of abundance and knowledge of female nature would have just laughed inside and let a slut, slut while getting his bangs and rent money. But no,you couldn't help but try to indirectly mention her 'morality' like a passive aggressive loser. You're weak and bluepill. People like you are dangerous and untrustworthy. Ridiculous 'moral codes' that make no sense and flip on a dime.

You could have made her feel welcomed and cared for and gotten a long term lease out of her. You could have gained access to a whole new world you've never seen and could never enter unless you're a hot girl or a rich guy. Instead you decided to dive deeper into the bluepill.

edits: new additions.

[–]NabroleonBonaparte 9 points10 points  (1 child)

She was sleeping with you and a bunch of other guys and didn't bother you, then suddenly she gets paid for it and now it does? You stopped hitting it because money got involved?

This is a huge assumption. Her risk increased with this lifestyle change. With her pool of fucks expanding to include richer potentially politically powerful/dangerous men he was opening himself to unnecessary risk when he could easily go out and replace this plate. That’s abundance mentality, dropping plates when their price (risk/work) gets too high.

Who gives a shit if a strange girl wants to sleep around and get cash for it. How is that not much smarter than the ones that do it for free? Why do you care about some beta that flies to see his oneitis? You warned him? Jesus.

Agreed. Until this shit came back to his home, it’s irrelevant to his life. I’m willing to say by concerning himself, he could of potentially found himself on the other end of a beta’s rage if said beta felt jealous instead of thankful for his “warning.”

Any guy with any sense of abundance and knowledge of female nature would have just laughed inside and let a slut, slut while getting his bangs and rent money. But no,you couldn't help but try to indirectly mention her 'morality' like a passive aggressive loser. You're weak and bluepill. People like you are dangerous and untrustworthy. Ridiculous 'moral codes' that make no sense and flip on a dime.

YOU can fuck amateur prostitutes, to each their own. There’s too much risk with fucking this chick. At least a professional escort MAY take her career seriously and would make an effort to prevent STDs, but this amateur slut might not think that far.

Again, abundance mentality. If this guy has it and can get more girls, why would he keep going to this chick who’s risk just went up? That sounds like mild oneitis...

The rent would be the last thing on my mind, roommates are disposable, they can easily be replaced. My top concern is the peace of mind of my domain and I’d keep my finger on the trigger for a new roommate once I started getting wind of her new choices.

You could have made her feel welcomed and cared for and gotten a long term lease out of her. You could have gained access to a whole new world you've never seen and could never enter unless you're a hot girl or a rich guy. Instead you decided to dive deeper into the bluepill.

Lmao wtf are you talking about here? Why should he accommodate a whore? Once again, it’s easy to get another roommate, absolutely no point trying so hard to keep a high risk female in your life.

If OP had to rely on a random whore to gain access to a valuable circle, he needs to refocus his efforts in life.

I will say this, if OP was up for it, he could have made her move out and then pimped her out. Let the money touch his hands first and break her off a piece for her labor. THAT is the ONLY way OP could have spun this in his favor

[–]Could_have_listened 2 points3 points  (0 children)

could of

Did you mean could've?

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[–]Wolveryn 1 points1 points [recovered]

Fucking old dudes for money makes you a whore, nothing wrong with that. It's the worlds oldest profession. But it opens the door to riskier sexual partners and therefore STD's. I didn't want a long term lease out of her. I don't want 'his bangs', and rent money is not a reason to completely throw your morals out the windows.

The weak thing to do would be say nothing. And this 'whole new world i've never seen'... what world would that be exactly? Being a sociopath isn't one of my aspirations.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (5 children)

Seconded but the readership is lapping this morality up. Who cares if she is selling sex, he was OK banging her knowing that Chad was doing her in nightclub toilets but a rich family man gets involved and he's all "eww she's a prostitute!!'.

[–]CuckedByTRUMP 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Seconded but the readership is lapping this morality up.

When the community grows too quickly there ends up always needing to be a purge of bad content. This content is completely useless. A girl bangs multiple guys and you told on her. That is basically the entire summary of this post. It's so stupid because this sub is all about it if the shoe is on the other foot. She got money? Oh boo fucking hoo. How is that different than dating a rich guy because he is well off?

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 11 points12 points  (1 child)

She got $15,000 for two bangs? Damn.That's a high class slut. Id give her a high five and say, "you're not poor anymore". I would have 'celebrated' on her dime. I see nothing but positive things in the dynamic he had with her.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah there is no way I would have stopped fucking her or told the other guy. That is the way the world works, if Bevan wants to pay the girl that’s his money. OP is entitled to his own morality but to me he just fucked over a girl who did nothing wrong to him and missed out on sex. The old world of good girls/ bad girls is gone forever. Every girl over 21 who is HB7 or above has ridden the carousel and most of them have crossed the line on money for sex.

[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I thought TRP had settled the nuance of the morality issue? Now I find a senior endorsed I respected, confusing the amorality of the game and personal morality. There is nothing more feminine than this man. Half the reason some men end up on TRP is the level of mental gymnastics women perform to behave in ways that damage those around them. I sense you've been staring into the abyss too long and lost your perspective.

[–]yomo86 1 point2 points  (1 child)

To me it would - as would to many others. Banging Chad or Billy the beta is somewhat understandable. Tingles or safety are involved, two very important issues for a woman, nothing wrong with that. Fucking older men solely on the basis to satisfy your greed by selling ones own body to the highest bidder in a meat market takes a new level of depravity.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 4 points5 points  (0 children)

$15,000 a sesh w/o getting pooped on by Saudi Princes for a young girl is an awesome deal. Then one of them will probably take her for the long haul in the end when she is ready to settle down. Smart gig. If you're gonna settle down for a beta, make sure he's rich.

[–]Ninokun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh boy 3000 in one weekend. If i was a Women i would be a Whore too. but i would at least be honest about it. oh what am i saying if i was a women my brain wouldnt work that way anyway.

[–]zeussingh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude she would have called the yacht guy to pick her up and fuck her even for more time and less(still some) money, maybe even just an accommodation till yacht party starts !!

But i get it what you did and why you did it. And i think its still noble in a way.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unless you turned around and made a professional contact out of Bevan and are now profiting from it (or are at least developing it), then your little moral crusade was a wasted effort.

The chick won't change. She'll just be more careful next time.

This is how women are. Accept it, or be forever disappointed and bewildered with them.

[–]bitchpotatobunny 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Honestly, I think this is ridiculous. The value of this post isn't what you did, its value comes from being an example of unnecessarily sticking your nose in someone else's business.

It's one thing if you want to stop fucking her because she's a prostitute now. (Which I also don't see the problem with. The only difference between her and any other hot chick is that she's getting paid for it, whereas the others just give it out for free) That's your choice, and it's something that directly involves you.

However, there is no reason to tell Bevan shit. You don't know the guy. You don't owe him anything. He's not her boyfriend. It's not like you're making him aware of something his significant other is doing behind his back. He's literally just a guy that has oneitis for this chick. Who cares?

You speak of moral codes, and how you did it because it was right thing to do. Bullshit. You're saying, that your moral code is stronger with a guy you don't even know than a chick who's been your roommate, wing woman, and fuck buddy? What about moral code of not being a fucking chatty Kathy? All you're really saying here is your resolve is so weak that you can't be trusted with a secret.

Let me be clear here. If Bevan was her significant other, then your actions are commendable. That's looking out for someone. However, this was not the case. Therefore, this is no better than being a backstabbing woman in my opinion.

[–]Shukakun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Different people have different moral compasses I guess, but I doubt I'd do Bevan a solid like you did, to be honest. He's making his own choices and they've gotten him where they have gotten him. It's not like he deserves to be warned about this major fuck-up on his part. It's a nice thing for you to do to him, but you're not always going to be around to save his ass. Betas gonna beta.

[–]hyugafan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No matter what people may think, you followed your morals and values by doing what you did. That's what a man does, IMHO. Also holy shit, she is going to hit the wall HARD if she doesn't put some of that money away.

[–]Ianooo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't care what anybody says but that was a bitch move on your part. Why didn't you also tell Bevan that you were also fucking her before?

[–]uebermacht 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Heilige Scheisse, was für eine Hure!
It‘s 7 AM on friday and now I am laying here in my bed reading this crazy ass story.
I think you did it well :)
Thanks for sharing!
Will definitely print it out and save under TRP Anecdotes for re-read from time to time.

[–]PaulAJK 3 points4 points  (3 children)

i don't think you did the right thing here. You didn't owe Bevan the Bro Code, because he wasn't your bro. A bro is a close friend, a buddy, someone who would do you a similar favour. Would Bevan have turned down a bang with the British/Syrian girl if it was offered?

I doubt it. We have no generic loyalty to our gender, we keep that to close friends, familly, buddies etc.

So my mate has a(non shagging) oneitis who I met one night at a pub while out with another friend of mine. She was all over the both of us, but me more so. I chose not to take it any further, because I felt I owed my mate the bro code. My other friend, by contrast, didn't know him from Adam, and proceeded to take her home. Which was totally fair enough, because his bro code netwrk didn't extend to my other mate.

[–]Ichewfivegum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Das what happens when ya flirt w the devil and get lost in the sauce

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