Off TopicMan creates "sexist, misogynist" app, MakeApp, that shows what women look like without makeup. Rage ensues. (self.TheRedPill)
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[–]OldPainless64 127 points128 points129 points 1 year ago (0 children)
But wait, I thought make-up was just another tool of the patriarchy. These women should be applauding this man for "dismantling standard conventions of beauty."
Gotta love that article as well. Doesn't even bother with the usual left-wing nutjob commentary - just goes straight to taking the piss out of the designer. Hard-hitting female journalism right there.
[–][deleted] 209 points210 points211 points 1 year ago (28 children)
This cracks me up. If you are so proud of who you are as a strong women who dont need no man, then why do you need makeup just to leave the house?
[–][deleted] 43 points44 points45 points 1 year ago (1 child)
The far more attractive girls are usually the ones that wear minimal makeup.
Then when you see them without makeup it's not shocking.
[–]psilocybensis 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The society upholds crazy expectations, both for men and women.
[–]1SirKolbath 38 points39 points40 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I would be happy if I could just figure out why women need to put on makeup to go to the goddamn gym.
On a side note, I would really like to know why anybody would take the makeup advice of the whores that work at Ulta. From the most beautiful to the most homely, every single girl in there looks like she was dragged face down through the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory fudge pump. There isn't a single girl that works in that store that I would fuck without tying them face up in the bed of my pickup and running through the local car wash a half a dozen times.
[–]daprospecta 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It doesn't bother me if a woman wants to stay made up but the gym dolls are the ones I can't understand. Fresh new coat of makeup to workout. I just don't get it. You are there to sweat and not look your best.
[+]IoSonCalaf comment score below threshold-27 points-26 points-25 points 1 year ago (20 children)
I believe women wear makeup and all that to impress other women, not men.
[–]neversayneverdork 128 points129 points130 points 1 year ago (6 children)
'To impress other women' is what they say.
'To impress other women by their ability to harness male attention' is what they imply.
[–]CanuckinFL 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (1 child)
so let's be clear, the colloraries here are pretty obvious-
if she's banging you and bringing you around her social circle, it's to show off the new toy, to the other girls. If she's not bringing you around her social circle at all, it's because she's definitely into the sex, and is using the hell out of you.
It's that binary a system. If you're hubby, or boyfriend, on a date, etc, anywhere public she has to answer for-you're a social peg. Point Final.
If she keeps you under wraps, you're her dirty secret. It's all about them, fellas. It really so so so is not about us.
[–]neversayneverdork 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
A nice take on how expendable and non-unique male subjects can be in the eyes of the beholder.
When i mentionned male attention, i was not referrering to a singular individual. When it comes to attention seeking the usual strategy relies on quantity rather than quality (i.e numbers game).
This further enforces the idea that we are little more than unremarkable grains of sand in the dating pool. I precognize a certain modesty towards this scheme (we are not exceptional) yet to show contempt in response to egotistical behavior (such as demanding commitement to fix one's insecurities).
[–]kowbrandt 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Personally, I believe it’s a balance of both. They’re constantly in a rivalry with each other, and part of the reason they wear it is to attempt to one up the other girls by being “prettier”. The other is of course to increase chances of getting plowed
[–]neversayneverdork 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Competition without a goal makes no sense.
Why do women want to be 'pretty' ? Reflect on the question, do not rely on female answers and you will arrive to a logical conclusion.
[–]kowbrandt 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I would say there is a goal, to feed their own ego
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Its probably a bit of both. But in this context it doesnt really matter. Regardless of motivation to wear makeup, getting upset at the app is hypocritical if you claim to be a feminist.
[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
This is what it has always been about. Women primarily compete with other women to one-up other women, not to attract men.
When women get all dolled up with makeup, fancy outfits, expensive shoes and handbags, its not to attract men. It's to one-up other women. Hence why they lose their shit when another woman in the vicinity has the same outfit or bag or shoes.
[–]frrunkis 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
They're competing with each other to see who's hotter, but that whole thing is nested inside of being attractive to men. The idea that they're doing it for men makes no sense to them because women aren't as visual as us. They need to meet and speak to a guy first before deciding they're doing to fuck him. So for the meantime, it's to compete with other women. But at the end of the day, it's for male attention (just the top percent of males).
Go to an all-female dorm room. Not a single one would be wearing makeup. None. Take away men, you take away makeup.
[–]forgetful_storytellr 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
If that's the case, women wouldn't care if
Men used this app right?
[–]CanuckinFL 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
See you're onto something here I espouse, and it's not a happy conclusion.
Men, RP or BP or whatever, are almost always continually delusional from my perspective (oh hell I do it too) about how important we are to women. How preoccupying we are to them
I don't think we matter shit to them, really. Ever. So yeah, they try to impress other women. Not us.
[–]IoSonCalaf -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Then why am I getting downvotes to hell here?
[–]1rporion -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Because most people do not get the difference between proximate and ultimate cause.
It is evopsych terminology, meaning, nature does not care WHY you do it, it cares THAT you do it.
Whatever you believe in your head when you do it is the proximate cause and it is of no importance as long as you do what it takes to survive and procreate , which would be the ultimate cause.
[–]Blackhawk2479 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Think you missed off the “/s” there buddy.
[–]AlexDr0ps -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
That's the male equivalent of working out and having other dudes admire your muscles more than girls do
[–]Gothiks -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Newsflash: They wear it mostly for other women for the most part.
[–]TheStumblingWolf 86 points87 points88 points 1 year ago (10 children)
If a woman had made the app it'd be labelled as empowering.
[–]CanuckinFL 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (6 children)
I'll refine that statement, Wolf: If a societally approved GOOD LOOKING woman had made the app it'd be labelled as empowering. They would literally give her awards.
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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Sometimes I secretly hate highly attractive men who get ridiculous amounts of smoking hot pussy without even trying, so I understand where many of these feminists are coming from, lol.
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Feminism is good for socially inept, fat hags who wanna outcompete competent good looking women for jobs they are not qualified for but the competent good looking woman is.
[–]StratuhG -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Tumblr/SJW feminism =/= feminism
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The female equivalent would be one that shows a man's net worth with his picture.
[–]AlphaGrad 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Let them get past "hello world" first.
[–][deleted] 61 points62 points63 points 1 year ago (6 children)
If there were an app that displayed a mans occupation and net worth than it would be acceptable to these same howling bitches
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[–]Hoodwink 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
I mean, there's a lot of 'stand-in's for occupation and net worth (e.g. shoes, clothing brands, car, etc), and a girl will be scanning for clues for it in the first 3 dates for sure.
There's was a dating website a few years back that only had high net worth individuals join, but they opened it up to any women attractive enough I believe.
[–]pisspoordecisions -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
Are you thinking of the league? It’s only tough to get in if you’re a dude
[–]Hoodwink -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
I don't remember the name or anything. I don't think I spent more than 30 seconds looking at that website.
But, I'm sure there are a number of services that hook up high net worth males with models.
[–]Blackhawk2479 29 points30 points31 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Hahahaha the hamstering in that Allure article is hilarious. I think the app does a really good job of taking the makeup off “Devon” personally.
[–]UCISee 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
THis was the same thing I was thinking. In one photo she was smirking, in the other she was smiling. Otherwise, they were almost the same picture.
[–]I_Need_More_Space_ 29 points30 points31 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Christmas has come early! Thank you, Baby Jesus!
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[–]shakespeareSMG 34 points35 points36 points 1 year ago (0 children)
There is a TRP maxim here:
No one wants the truth.
Especially, not women.
Unless, you are here.
Then you’ve seen the bitter truth and are better and stronger for it.
[–]DebatesNotBans 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Not to mention all the idiots going "LMAO I USED IT ON A PICTURE WHERE I HAD NO MAKEUP AND IT DIDNT WORK! THIS APP SUCKS!"
Yes, the're that stupid.
[–]The_Rockheart 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Remember, we're likely only a few years away from augmented reality contact lenses that could run an app like this in realtime.
Anyone remember 'They Live'?
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
Holy shit, man...you just took this shit to the next level.
Can you imagine?
EDIT: It looks like the creator is already doing the next-best thing! Holy shit!
[–]LARandomActor 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Oh, and apparently everyone hates the app, too.
Oh, and apparently everyone hates the app, too.
Lol the hamstering in that link on her friend. The picture where the app stripped her make-up looks spot on with her no-makeup photo.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It's remarkably similar. Notice that in the undoctored no-makeup photo, she is not using a flash, because using a flash would further expose facial flaws. In her with-makeup photo, there is a flash being used, so her face looks understandably worse than in the no-flash photo.
[–]Quigley61 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children)
At least the guy is making a dollar from every purchase when these women buy it to prove it doesn't work, got to love the patriarchy.
[–]RPTA3498 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago (3 children)
This app doesn't show all the acne bitches hide with makeup.
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[–]rigbed 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
And given how viral this has become its going to take no time at all
[–]rigbed 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
[–]TheMasterChiefs 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It's a funny app. If you're truly angry about it to the extent that you call it "sexist" and "misogynistic," clearly you have no purpose in life. Time for reevaluate yourself if THAT'S what gets you mad...
[–]WhorehouseVet 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Holy shit, look up there reviews if Makeapp on Google Play, it's fucking hilarious, lots of push back against feminazi and SJW. People are starting to realize how ridiculous it is to go ape shit when technology shows how vain women are.
The Barbara Streisand effect strikes again.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Yup - the popularity of this app is exploding. And the creator has now made it known that the technology can be applied to full-motion video
No woman is safe. I completely understand their horror.
[–]WhorehouseVet 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Reminds me when HD TV came out, I can see the ugly wrinkles on TV reporters. Yet back then no women went full retard.
[–]ExelsioHD 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Why are women so pissed about this dont they have bigger Problems in life ? If i could be so upset about something like a fucking App id have the most amazing life ever Lol. Like all the women saying why does he need to uncover the way they want to present them selfs. Its not like he made an app that sends the worst thing youve ever done to all 7 billion people on the Planet. Also it is not even really working. Its just a basic assumption it looks pretty realistic with girls who dont have 10 tons of makeup on but its not perfect. This world is crazy
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (5 children)
This app has opened my eyes to just how hard we're being bullshitted by women when they wear makeup. They look almost like a whole different person without the makeup on.
[–]fokm 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–]smartello 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
LOL, TIL that Christiano Ronaldo and Cindy Crawford are almost twins. Thank you, /u/fokm.
[–]ExelsioHD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Let me be honest i dont have a problem with women wearing makeup especially if its not a ton, also it prevents me from getting eye Cancer lol. But it is basically a Scam yeah. But i love good Magicians and we all know its not true magic its an Illusion right. So i kinda look at it that way. And the really good looking Women look good without it aswell not as good but good and the really good looking ones are the only ones i care about lol. And if we are being honest we care about the body so much more for sex than the face right i mean a Women could have the a face like a goddess but if she ways 300 pounds im not gonna sleep with her. What im saying its about the big picture right.
[–]lelease 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
lol all these immature "articles" taking cheap jabs at the dev just give him free publicity, props to that guy. Didn't see any evidence for any of their claims (just a bunch of SJW fluff), but I did download the app after reading!
Quite telling that they only show their before/after photos, but don't show what they actually look like without make-up to prove it does or doesn't work well. Maybe they had to omit it after realizing that the app is actually quite accurate, all things considered...
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Check out the creator's twitter feed
He's asking advice on getting U.S. based lawyers to sue for false and defamatory accusations being made against him. It's getting quite intense as you scroll through his feed and read what's being said about him.
[–]TheseNthose 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
How much of a woman's beauty is actually destroyed in the long run by caking layers on theirs faces.
[–]etherealembryo 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Something something something swipe left. Im laughing hard at these. What a good post good job!
[–]krefnasterploc 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA this is the funniest fucking thing I’ve seen all month
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Bro, I need more shit to laugh at. Please tell me the last funniest thing you heard before this, lol.
[–]AlphaGrad -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
I saw a video of a woman trying to refill her gas tank and failing at it.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
We Used the App That Reveals What Women Look Like Without
Their Makeup on the Man Who Created It
Haha we know what he looks like without his makeup because MEN DO NOT WEAR LIES MAKEUP.
I wonder.... does the app have a slider for her age? Because the older she gets, the larger the lie ... err the bigger the difference.
Obviously female lying is defined as men's fault because err.... women look better with it on. To men. So that's... hang on... let me get this right.... somehow my fault.
[–]fromthecrypt8 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The irony is that many women look better with minimal make-up on. Some of these bitches today look like Pennywise.
[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago* (13 children)
My only beef with the app is that it doesn't do what it says: it doesn't digitally remove make-up from the photo, because that's technically impossible.
All it does is applies some filters with fake tones, blemishes, imperfections and wrinkles.
Remember that "ageing" website that was popular some years ago? You submit your photo and the site shows you how you might look when you're 60 or 80 etc. This is basically what MakeApp does. It fakes a look.
[–]RedPimpin 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (11 children)
agreed, its just a bunch of filter and of course we can't have a 1:1 presentation of women without makeup, still it manages to give you a extremely good idea and the hamstering proves that
[+]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points 1 year ago (10 children)
But the fact that it's just a bunch of fake filters, not an actual make-up remover kinda legitimizes women's anger about this.
[–]rp_tsukaisute 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (4 children)
Hmm.. If they're using a trained deep learning algorithm, I don't think it's accurate to call these "fake filters." Rather, it's actually guessing what they'd look like without makeup based on the average effect of many true before/after filters, in an intelligent way. Which we couldn't have done 5 years ago. And 5 years from now some other program will do it much better. But the state of the art is awfully good.
Which is exactly what it's sold as.
[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
If this is the case, then I might be wrong.
It would now be interesting to look under the hood of that app and see how it does its thing.
[–]rp_tsukaisute 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
The description says:
MAKEAPP uses neural network technology to digitally add or remove makeup from any face.
MAKEAPP uses neural network technology to digitally add or remove makeup from any face.
There's widely available code in several public AI toolkits to already do this with things like painting styles (make my picture look like Van Gough, e.g.), so that's not nearly as complicated to do as it might sound. I just played around with it, and given the results (really very good, but I find it also aged a couple of 23yos I tried it on so they look 30. Which was also interesting), I'd bet they did it this way.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Check out this full-motion video that the app's creator released. It appears to be almost scarily accurate, and is very jarring to the psyche of just how hard women are bullshitting us about their looks.
[–]RedPimpin 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
most men dont look so different at all so i'd dare to say the app still gives a very good idea, the womens anger is not about it not being a real makeup remover but its because they look like a zombie, the naturally hot girls also still look hot after going through the app
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Exactly. When applied to men's faces, it doesn't make much of a difference.
[–]LARandomActor 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Do you expect a hand and a baby wipe to reach out of the screen and physically remove the makeup?
Of course that is how it works, and it does it to the best of its ability.
[–]mr-no-homo 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
On the other end of the spectrum, men should be outraged by women who use fake filters on snapchat/instagram for all their photos. I get a good laugh between their social media filter photos vs. in real life appearance, especially when all the photos are closeups of the face.
[–]CollaterLDamage 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
the real issue is that, things like snapchat and photoshop can pretty easily counter these filters.
i dont think this app adds wrinkles but it does use a color filter.
youd have to test it on yourself to really see.
[–]BloodandIron79 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
People are stupid, I'm so bored with this decade and it's culture.
...I guess it's sexist cause men don't generally wear makeup???
[–]real-scot 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
What's the name of the publisher and where can I get it?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Check out his twitter. He's currently seeking advice to lawyer up to combat defamatory allegations.
[–]Fede10204 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
I love that he's standing up for his app and not backing away.
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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It's not 100% accurate - that's impossible. But it really jolts us awake to just how intense of an effect makeup has on mis-representing their actual level of beauty.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Used it on a bunch of photos and think it's funny but needs polishing. It's not very accurate since it also assume to add blemishes and shadows even when there aren't any.
Give it ten years. The technology will be astonishing.
I do not see why it is seen as sexist. It's like saying brush up apps are sexist. If you do not like someone you know using it so much, do not associate with them. It is not that difficult.
[–]burem0n0 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This guy is the hero we need!
Makeup is disgusting and most women put way too much of it on themselves. I can barely even look at a womans face when im talking to her because of how disgusting their face looks with all that makeup covering their skin. ugh
[–]SuckMyFist 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This reminds me of Ted Bundy favorite joke about women:
Why do women wear makeup and put on perfume?
Told by a guy that actually fucked a few corpses.
[–]mr-no-homo 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Haha i cant even. Thanks for a good laugh. Ive meet a lot of women who look 9/10 when they are in fact 6/7 without makeup.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Same here, bro. Check out Reese Witherspoon
[–]Drezzzire 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I'm going long JNUG 😂
[–]ExposeThisBitchPls 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Saw some verified overweight twitter user in his 30s (only 7,000 followers which is low for a verified account) say the app was “Violent Misogyny” About as blue pilled as it gets. His name is Ryan Houlihan
[–]hodltaco -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
I could give a crap what they've got painted on their face. I'd like to see some very large breasts but I could really give 2 shits about who they're wearing. That app is hilarious.
[–]macaroniinapan -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (3 children)
Okay, let's be real. If somebody could invent a "pants app" that could digitally remove a guy's clothes and show how big his dick really is, lots of women would be calling it THE BEST APP EVER!!! So yeah. Hypocrites as usual.
[–]gogis79 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
How would AI determine state of circumcision?
[–]mr-no-homo 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It would get praised with an obnoxious headline on cosmo and other chick magazines/blogs
[–]varrr -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children)
If a woman could invent a "pants app" hat could show a guy's dick size I, as a man, would e pretty pissed off.
So I don't get this whole controversy.
Everyone tries to look their best to attract a mate, I don't see a problem with that.
[–]11-Eleven-11 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
It's funny because the guy doesn't even wear makeup
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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
That's not cool, man. Get out of here with that stuff.
[–]Doc1000 -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (0 children)
A woman should make an app that strips the bs when a man is throwing game - in real time.
"Yea, end up working out 4-5 x week, buts its tough because i travel so much between producing music and Docs without borders" [I live with my parents but have a job as janitor at the gym. I'm tired of being incel]