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[FR] Female coworkers around the water cooler (self.TheRedPill)

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So I'm at work shooting the shit with a few female coworkers. They know I'm single so one of them suggests that I need to get on Tinder, "I met my husband on Tinder!" The conversation moves to online dating now.

One of them starts to regale us with a story of her male friend who matched with a woman on Tinder and they set up a first date. On the way to the date, the woman texts the guy and says something to the effect of.. "I lied about my pictures/identity, they're older photos and I've gained some weight or I used someone else's photos, if you don't want to meet me now I understand." (I can't recall the exact scenario but you get the drift.)

The guy is already at the bar and I guess he says to her OK and decides to meet with the woman anyway . When she shows up, she actually is the attractive woman in the Tinder profile and was shit testing him for his reaction.

My female coworkers start awww'ing that Prince Charming was still willing to meet up with her and passed the test with flying colors in shades of blue.

They then turn to me and ask, OP what would YOU have done??? I tell them I'd wait to see what walked through the door just out of morbid curiosity and immediately reject them no matter who it was, and especially if it was the attractive woman in the Tinder photos. Why would any self respecting man want to start dating a woman under such deceptive conditions before even physically meeting? I stop myself there as I know I'm about to go full red pill.

They just look at me dumbfounded as if I had a dick growing out of my forehead.

Bbb..but OP, you passed the test! You've proven yourself worthy and now you get the opportunity to court this wonderfully beautiful woman!!

Fucking AWALT man.


[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 910 points911 points  (10 children)

"I may have passed your test, but you failed mine."

[–]Extremely_Photogenic 92 points93 points  (4 children)

"You're right. You looked better on tinder"

That would destroy her since the whole premise of her test was that she is actually some majestic beauty but wants to know that you're kind or whatever. So she has this vision "I'm going to surprise him with how hot I actually am!".

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 94 points95 points  (3 children)

Trying to hurt her feelings is a form of validation-seeking behaviour. You are allowing your emotional state to be dependent upon hers. Best not to develop a habit of thinking of petty comebacks.

It's better to develop standards which can be confidently and consistently expressed.

Believe me, your nonchalant rejection will hurt her more than enough, and you won't look like a tool doing it.

[–]LongElm 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This is important. I screwed my mental not acknowledging I do this unconsciously.

Live righteously - be good, like Patice O'Neal preaches: "Be the truth, you can't fuck with the truth."

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nonchalant Rejection is a fab title for an essay...

[–]D4rkr4in 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that, and they're coworkers, so there would be some bad blood for as long as you work there

[–]washington_breadstix 569 points570 points  (55 children)

I tell them I'd wait to see what walked through the door just out of morbid curiosity and immediately reject them no matter who it was, and especially if it was the attractive woman in the Tinder photos.

Fucking perfect. That text from the woman just reeks of "retarded shit test" to begin with. Actual fat women who use older photos from their skinny days don't tell you in advance of meeting you that they're actually fat. The point is to corner you into going on a date with them because you don't find out they were lying about their appearance until you meet in person. And at that point it's not considered socially acceptable to just say "Oh shit, you're fat. Let's not do this. Bye!"

[–]BobLordOfTheCows 281 points282 points  (9 children)

I just say "If you're lying to me already, how am I supposed to be with you?". Shuts them down and they can't play the "asshole" card against you.

[–]_the_shape_ 111 points112 points  (7 children)

"If you're lying to me already, how am I supposed to be with you?". Shuts them down and they can't play the "asshole" card against you.

I can hear it already:

"OMG! 'Lying' and 'testing' are like two toOooOtally different things! Ugh!!!"

[–]Rhynocobear 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Called my current dating partner out on this, can confirm.

[–]yomo86 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just hide your looks-only triggered dick in plain PC sight. How can we build a foundation of trust together of you start off on a note of not trusting me in the first place?

[–]dumnem 14 points15 points  (3 children)

"OMG! 'Lying' and 'testing' are like two toOooOtally different things! Ugh!!!"

There's only two things that could possibly 'trigger' me into going some kind of blind red-hot rage. One has to with League, the other is catfishing bitches.

Before I cut my mother off entirely for nearly five years (no contact, ignored / sent back every letter) I found out that she had created a kind of character online to ensnare my father. Now, she was already with my father. She knew everything about him. They didn't have a good relationship but they stuck together for the sake of the kids. That being, he made money and she took care of the kids. He is a gentle soul and really blue pilled but an excellent father and a good person, and I love him to death.

She used her intimate knowledge of his hopes and dreams of an ideal woman and relationship to catfish him. She created/stole photos of women she knew he would be attracted to and started applauding him with attention and promises - not all sexual in nature, but mostly to be good to his kids and to be good to him - everything he has ever wanted in a woman.

And it was all a lie. She created a persona and made him fall in love with her just to break it off with a sneer and announce that it was really his wife he was considering leaving for another woman. She considered those to be 'tests' - what they really were were fucking cruel bullshit done on someone who was trapped in a horrible relationship just so that he could see his kids.

He ended up divorcing her, and thinking back on it this was probably one of the bigger reasons why. She of course had to find someone to provide for her so she found a doctor who was a convicted pedophile (he dated his previous 15 yr old step-daughter) who was practicing medicine. Long story.

Since then she has changed as a person and as had her new husband and my father found someone new to be trapped to. Poor guy still doesn't understand why he's still not really happy, only barely content. I've tried red pilling him but he's resistant to it and wants to be left in wonderland.

I've since reconnected to my mother but it still makes me infuriated when I think about what happened. I'm sure everyone else has forgotten and more or less got over it.

I never will.

[–]hecubus452 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, this is /raisedbynarcissists level fucked up

edit: Automod can go fuck itself

[–]moreidea265 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry your mom uses manipulation to deal with HER anxiety. Sounds like your dad is using passivity to “get along” but lacks happiness also. Please dont live YOUR life angry at women. Find a woman who is working on herself and knows that happiness is a process we ALL need to work at to grow into....especially if we couldnt get good mirroring from our parents. I hope you find your happines, but anger will repel good people so you might want to work on yours a little.

[–]DubiousPanther 4 points5 points  (0 children)

By calling their test 'being dishonest', you can flip their shit test against them.

[–]askmrcia 107 points108 points  (3 children)

Yup this happened on more occasions then I want to admit. A few times I didn't want to be rude so I continued the date.

Ironically though they were always and I mean always rude as hell with me. Expected me to pay for their drinks or food or flat out challenge me on something that I like. I'm not joking every time I got catfish the women were no doubt rude as hell.

Now the last time it happened, I saw her introduced myself and told her I was leaving. No longer do I put up with that.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 61 points62 points  (0 children)

They already told you their disposition before you met. This is hardly a surprise.

[–]hawkeaglejesus 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Ironically though they were always and I mean always rude as hell with me.

I replied in a different thread regarding this. Lower SMV girls tend to have better personalities, but you don't want to go too low.

7 really is the sweet spot for probability of good non-sexual characteristics. It's possible with 8s and 9s, but is far too rare to be reliable.

What I've found to be true in most cases is, 7/8/9s have been treated well their entire lives so they're usually positive lovely girls.

But if you dip below that, even if they've improved their SMV, the shit they went through growing up causes those girls to have a lot of internalized insecurities which causes them to lash out and sabotage what otherwise could've been a normal interaction/relationship.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 47 points48 points  (16 children)

This is 100% true and has happened to me. Women uses deceptive photos where the angle makes her look fine. Meet her in person and she's really fat. They know that you most likely won't back out on the date right away, because you took the time to get ready and get to the venue.

[–]washington_breadstix 75 points76 points  (10 children)

Yep. I know the exact photo angles too. Either really close up on the face from the front with a coy smile or from an above angle so that she's looking up. The "looking up" angle makes it look like (1) she has a nice rack and (2) she doesn't have double-chins because stretching her neck that way hides them.

[–]3nebder 58 points59 points  (6 children)

That’s the myspace pose. Old as the internet. There’s no full body shot for a reason.

Look around the shoulders and upper arms. You can tell.

[–]PaulAJK 72 points73 points  (5 children)

It's all about visible collar bones. No collar bones=fatty.

[–]washington_breadstix 57 points58 points  (3 children)

I'm glad to see we've broken it down to a science here.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 40 points41 points  (2 children)

Hey, you young guys are lucky. Back in the day we had to check a girl's eyebrows to see what kind of hair-monster was waiting for us downstairs. Now they're all shaved, thank god.

[–]Deadlybeef 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I don't mind a little bit of hair ^_^

[–]jml1911a1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nobody does. But when her father harvests her snatch-mane twice weekly to weave into industrial-strength double-thick doormats, that's a bush of a different jungle.

[–]Iron-Pencil 20 points21 points  (0 children)

oto angles too. Either really close up on the face from the front with a coy smile or from an above angle so that she's looking up. The "looking up" angle makes it look like (1) she has a nice rack and (2) she doesn't have double-chins because stretching her neck that way hides them.

Also dim lighting to hid the rotund blob body.

[–]Shakydrummer 37 points38 points  (1 child)

It happened to me once too, My rule is always if it's just face/top down/bust shots they have something to hide. If they're attractive and are proud of it, they flaunt it simply put.

[–]ECTD 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Sunk cost at its finest. It’s always best to leave no matter what especially if after you leave it’s a hell no.

[–]JohnnySkidmarx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If I was ever in that situation I’d have no problem walking out on her. You lied before the first date even started. I don’t date liars.

[–]1Metalageddon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I will. Plenty of guys will.

You don't hear about them often unless they're called assholes. (Most often just another test in itself.)

[–]wayneinthegame 35 points36 points  (4 children)

I had a fatty show up once. Fucked her anyway.

[–]_xX-BongRippa420-Xx_ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

you shouldn't encourage them

[–]TheThirdTesticle 30 points31 points  (8 children)

We're not allowed to say 'fat women' its 'plus size'.

[–]42-AX 34 points35 points  (5 children)

'Large boned genetic disorder'

[–]Censd 52 points53 points  (2 children)

Stop it! The proper term is gravitationally challenged.

[–]tk421awol 1 points1 points [recovered]

No no no. That’s the bulimics/anorexics. Fatties are “gravitationally gifted”.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good thing I don't give a fuck then and just call them fat women.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

well there is one trick to avoid "whales", that works 99.99%

if she only has selfies, she's prolly fat

[–]SuperSchweinchen 1 point2 points  (6 children)

To be fair, if you're already there there's a good chance you're going to tell yourself "ah what do I have to lose" and end up staying. But if a fat chick actually shows up without saying a word, there is a good chance she's going to hear a few choice words about her weight, which I suppose she'll want to avoid.

[–]washington_breadstix 11 points12 points  (5 children)

there is a good chance she's going to hear a few choice words about her weight

I disagree. The majority of people are too polite to directly talk about the weight of a person they're just meeting for the first time. The woman's ruse here is to delay the man's finding out about her weight until they are face-to-face, at which point the man will feel that he can't back out and then she at least has a platform to try to win him over with her personality or whatever.

Of course, this shouldn't apply to red-pilled men who are not going to be shy about calling out people's bullshit. The problem isn't really that the woman is fat. It's that she was dishonest because she knew fat wouldn't be acceptable.

[–]SuperSchweinchen 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well maybe not, but I'd assume a fattie is insecure enough to expect it. After all in this scenario she is insecure enough to lie about her weight...

[–]washington_breadstix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Insecure? She's actively trying to deceive men by lying about it. It would be like if I said I was 6'4" on my dating profile and then let the women find out upon meeting me that I'm significantly shorter. I'm not at all insecure about my height. The lying would simply be a deliberate ruse to try to lure women into a date with me. Because once they agree to that and meet you in person, they feel obligated to go through with the date. Then, the deceiver uses this platform to try to "win over" the other person and prove why they're a good dating prospect despite the falsely advertised trait.

Even if she were insecure, it wouldn't excuse the lying. She's basically saying "I know that the type of men I'm into would never go for a fat chick, so I'm going to just conveniently filter that out of my profile so that I can get a date and make my case for why they should be into me despite my weight." It's bullshit. You can't just manipulate people's desires that way and no good relationship/hookup/whatever has ever begun like that.

[–]uebermacht 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Majority!
We are not the majority :)

[–]washington_breadstix 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Exactly. But the other commentor said "there is a good chance she's going to hear a few choice words"... but the chance is not good. Because anyone from the majority would not give her those choice words.

[–]Augustuscrassus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm going to assume neither of you are autistic fucks and would just walk out. What explanation do you owe her? She already knows it's because she's fat. That's the point of the ruse in the first place.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 176 points177 points  (19 children)

This is what dating has become like in the West: women holding out hoops on fire for men to jump through...and plenty of thirsty men flinging themselves through the hoops and towards their doom.

Remnds me of this old post:

http://archive.is/cPLPj

There's been a joke floating around Reddit/the Internet for ages where the husband-to-be is asked to come over to the bride's house for a favor. The bride isn't there but the little sister is, little sister tries to seduce him, he runs outside, and the whole family is outside congratulating him on not succumbing to her temptation. The joke being that he keeps his condoms in the car and was just going to get them...

Guess what? This shit HAPPENED to me today.

[–]RPStone 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Yep. It's a dog and pony show. Women are shocked when you don't jump through the hoops in front of everyone.

I hope that guy came to his senses.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 72 points73 points  (11 children)

What the hell? It's like placing a juicy steak in front of your loyal dog, just to test your dog to see if he/she will eat it. It's cruel and at best, very immature.

If the dude actually stayed with her, their will probably be many more tests. This is way beyond a simple 'shit test'

[–]PM_Your_8008s 37 points38 points  (6 children)

Buddy of mine started dating this one girl. Not even 2 weeks later she created a fake Facebook page and used it to try to get him to cheat on her. He ends up going for it and she freaks out using it as proof of his disloyalty. It obviously doesn't say anything positive about him, but to create such a situation just to catch him in it says a lot worse about her.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 23 points24 points  (3 children)

He should have been happy she removed herself from his life.

[–]PM_Your_8008s 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Actually they've been together for about 4 years now. Yep. That's the world we live in.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Well then let me change my perspective. He proved he isn't a blue pill loyalist and is high value from her perspective (willing to chuck her away to fuck another girl). She literally created her own dread and reacted to it.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 30 points31 points  (3 children)

hat the hell? It's like placing a juicy steak in front of your loyal dog, just to test your dog to see if he/she will eat it. It's cruel and at best

this is exactly what it is

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 41 points42 points  (2 children)

You should see what wives do! First they starve the dog for months. Then they muzzle it. Then they dangle the juicy steak and laugh as the dog desperately tries to get to it. When he finally get's through all the hoops of fire, she may or may not pull it away at the last second and then make fun, emasculate, and belittle the poor canine's efforts.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Know how scam artists are effective? They rely on fear and greed. If you have neither, they can't scam you.

Cmon professor, you know this as well as anyone. Bogey has the easiest example we have. She gets first crack at it, not sole custody

[–]yomo86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Imagine, the dog runs away. This is such an analogy - this can't be closer to the truth. Dog and steak. If a dog has a selection of various steaks in front of him he will not play stupid games with you to get your steak.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And the biggest irony of it all is that those men that jump either ain’t getting any or are cheated on.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 134 points135 points  (12 children)

Why would any self respecting man want to start dating a woman under such deceptive conditions before even physically meeting? I stop myself there as I know I'm about to go full red pill.

Mate. Hate to break it to you like this but women are deceptive. Make-up is deception. Shit tests are deception. Crying is deception. The red pill is the realization of the dark side of women and how to deal with it.

It's ok for you to be proud of your good morals but if you're waiting to find a woman who does not do any form of scheming, deception, or manipulation, you're going to wait a very long time.

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (1 child)

Not a long time, just a lifetime.

[–]MachoVerde 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Dear god I hope this isn’t true.

[–]MikeAlphaGolf 104 points105 points  (3 children)

“Ok. If you don’t look like your pictures then you’re buying the drinks until you do.”

[–]uebermacht 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That's a good one hahah :D

[–]Snowiceolated 1 points1 points [recovered]

I'd have stayed and tried to bang her, but she's already made it clear she's not gf material. She sounds like a sociopath - perfect plate material.

[–]wide_awoke 14 points15 points  (6 children)

You spin sociopathic plates? You're brave. Ordinary women are crazy enough for me-I don't fuck with sociopaths (in any sense) ...and they're out there.

[–]tk421awol 1 points1 points [recovered]

Not everyone has been on the crazytown merry go round long enough to realize it’s a blender: go around enough times and you will get cut to pieces. It IS a fun ride until you realize the danger (or wake up in the ER).

[–]untonyto 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's the gambler's thrill. It's more fun when you're betting your rent. In the case of sociopaths the stakes are your sanity and life.

[–]Shiva-Lingam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

sociopaths are fun ...when you are a potentially dangerous psychopath

[–]dumnem 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You spin sociopathic plates? You're brave.

Speaking from someone who has nearly gotten stabbed on several occasions by different women (and sometimes husbands. And boyfriends) never fucking A G A I N. Shit is not worth it.

Don't get me wrong, psycho pussy is pretty good pussy, but not worth getting holes stuck into you.

[–]kidwithambition 322 points323 points  (16 children)

Translation: He doesn't care if im a 10/10 or a beached whale, he's my beta bucks in shining armour!

Tinder is for hooking up, nothing else. I feel sorry for these cucks thinking they got lucky and found "the one" on Tinder LOL.

I will bet money she is still on the app.

[–]richpianoooo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

my friend is like that he thinks he will meet his true love on there. he is a handsome guy but ffs he has no confidence

[–]Poppenhoffer 3 points4 points  (10 children)

Met my gf off of tinder and she’s pretty awesome actually. I’m down with it.

[–]Drumcode-Equals-Life 38 points39 points  (9 children)

You've probably fucked her with some other dudes cum in her pussy at some point man

[–]Poppenhoffer 79 points80 points  (7 children)

Well damn aren’t you just a bundle of sunshine.

[–]electricspresident 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Tbh he's not wrong. Plating girls and then getting into LTRs with them down the line has its drawbacks one of em being putting your dick into your plate at night when she was raw dogged that very morning. This is the game now.

[–]untonyto 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Truth. Happened to, uh, a friend.

[–]1McDrMuffinMan 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Do you want the truth or delusion, because they likely aren't the same things.

[–]Poppenhoffer 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I’d like to not base life decisions on advice from strangers on the internet that clearly have massive trust issues. So I won’t.

[–]1McDrMuffinMan 6 points7 points  (2 children)

and that's fine, but those trust issues didn't spring out of nowehere, you may be wise to parse and pick out what sounds reasonable and what isnt

[–]Poppenhoffer 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Well then I can squarely put “You've probably fucked her with some other dudes cum in her pussy at some point” in the latter category.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (4 children)

There's an old story, where the names and exact details elude me now, but it was something along the lines of a privileged woman showing her friend how devoted a certain man was to her by tossing her glove into some sort of gladiator-like event (think seriously dangerous animals). True to form, he jumped in after it for her, but after getting it back he tossed it in her face and walked away.

She does not have power over you. If you choose to be a devoted husband like your great grandfather, that's because of who you are, not because of her. Just like your great grandfather. She doesn't get to test you in any way because testing you implies you have something to prove. This is why simply "passing" shit tests isn't really a good thing; you need to destroy shit tests.

[–]Coptek91 1 points1 points [recovered]

Bingo. Have you ever had a women completely reject you or smash you down and then afterwards have her cry about you not "fighting hard enough for her." Or upset you didn't chase her persistently enough when it seemed like she was not into you at all.

This shit keeps happening to me. Should I just completely ignore the dismissive looks, insults, and keep chasing them?

Women are fucking insane. Why put up so much damn resistance if you like the guy.

[–]yomo86 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Why put up so much damn resistance if you like the guy.

Hypergamy young padawan. They have multiple guys who they - genuinely - like. So how is a nubile 21yo supposed to find out who has the best exploitation potential.

[–]untonyto 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Because the more effort you put in for them the higher value they feel they have so they MAKE you put in that effort so they can validate the princess within. Or narcissism.

[–]Niphilim83 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Red pill test. "I lied, i dont have as much money as i said.... Hello? Helloooo?"

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 55 points56 points  (0 children)

One of them starts to regale us with a story ... lied about my pictures/identity..., they're older photos and I've gained some weight....someone else's photos.... she actually is the attractive woman in the Tinder profile and was shit testing him for his reaction.

She's telling the truth: if he commits to her then she will indeed be older, fatter and turn into someone else.

[–][deleted] 89 points90 points  (24 children)

Lol try reversing this "I've gained wait" test and do it on women and see what happens. I actually want to do this and may write a FR about it in the coming weeks.

[–]Bear_x 1 points1 points [recovered]

Don’t bother, you’ll just miss out on a fuck or two

[–]1empatheticapathetic 29 points30 points  (1 child)

He's a man, he's disposable to a woman.

She's checking how true the reverse in in OPs situation.

[–]ijustlovebreasts 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah man. He's basically a scientist.

[–]JoeBender1 96 points97 points  (8 children)

Tell her ... My previous statements about my income are a lie. I was laid off from that job two years ago. I have less than $100 in the bank and she’ll have to pay for the dates. In fact, can she pick me up ? I really can’t afford the gas money.

Watch how fast she disappears ...

[–]lasttimewedidthis 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Well can you blame her? In that situation, you'd have more important things to deal with than convincing some chick to buy you dinner. Nothing says miserable and petty than a person begging for food and then try to have sex.

[–]JoeBender1 66 points67 points  (1 child)

You missed the point.

If she is going to lie to him about her appearance and weight, why would he be required to tell her the truth about his finances ?

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 36 points37 points  (4 children)

can you blame her

Yet we blame the man when the reverse happens. Interesting.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 14 points15 points  (4 children)

If you wanted to reverse it, you'd tell them that you're actually only 5 feet tall.

[–]Alex24d 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'm bulking and I have a mirror selfie with abs in my Tinder profile from post cut. Will let you know how it goes :'D

[–]Ichewfivegum 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Try it on a 4-6, not somebody you'd actually be disappointed in yourself for not fucking. If you wanna go true mgtow then just do it to every girl and see what they say.

When I say true mgtow I mean the few members of that sub that actually had a lot of women and chose to pursue something they are passionate about rather than the 90% of mgtow that are just incels in denial. Think retirement vs forfeit.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Yeah, I'd consider myself a true MGTOW at this point. I'm really burned out from dating, but got laid/got a lot of action from my early 20s til now. Had an LTR with my personal "10" but lost it cause I turned beta and she branch swung to a better option (I'm not just saying that, dude has a business, his own place, and generally just has his life together which is more ideal for her cause she's a tradcon type.)

Been living the lifestyle of a player and spinning plates but it eats up too much time. I'm a broke student too so I don't have all the money to just go to bars/dates 2-3 times a week.

I do believe there are still women worth settling down with though. They're just very rare and you have to be a truly confident guy who has his shit together and is making moves in this world to attract them. They're usually worth being with too.. (IE: They cook, clean, take care of themselves, live a positive lifestyle).. I mean you obviously have to deal with the regular female shit like nagging now and then or complaining about trivial bullshit, but that's just inevitable.

[–]Ichewfivegum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you do a field report on this, let me know how it goes. Up to you tho that could harm your rep you don't wanna be known as that guy

[–]Drumcode-Equals-Life 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'll give you a hint: double standards

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 53 points54 points  (3 children)

The larger issue here is think about how detrimental it must be to have the belief instilled within you that you are a treasure that must be won by men.

Women put forth zero effort because in their mind they are the treasure.

Something goes wrong. Unfair I am the treasure.

The treasure is incapable of understanding the other side in a negotiation thus is a shitty negotiator.

Treasure has unrealistic expectations and is this perpetually disappointed.

Treasure complains about everything always.

[–][deleted] 152 points153 points  (16 children)

I had similar story, i got a girl from an online dating site, and she offered me to bring a single friend so that her single friend can come..

Pics they sent were nice, i would say both of them were like 7-8/10..

they lived in a village so we got on a bus, and bus had last stop at that village, as we approached final bus stop we see two girls, that are really bad looking and surely not what we seen on the pictures, and they kinda got excited when they saw 2 guys coming on the bus..

I was like "shit dude, what should we do now?"

my friend was like "lets stay in the bus, do the turn and go back"

and driver probably heard our convo and said "it's final stop for me guys, so you'll have to get out.."

so we got out, the girls were the girls we were supposed to meet.. they seemed really excited..

i was like "you don't really look like you did on the pictures.." and they were like

"yeah because these were old pictures hahahah"

so we went for a walk because next bus was in like 2 hours.. like 10 min in to walking one girl is like

"should we go to my house? nobody's there.."

me and my friend looked at each other and we were like "it's good weather outside, lets stay outside.."

girls were like "nah lets go to our place, nobody's at home so lets use the opportunity..."

me and my friend agreed to go to their house because they were really persistent.. and then we started texting each other to make an escape plan...

we came up to the idea to go to the supermarket to get some alcohol and then either get lost there and escape or exit through back door...

so long story short, we went in, girls said that they will stay outside in the car (didn't want to pay obviously)... then we asked the security guard to let us out through back door.. he did..

btw we were 15yo and they were 16

[–]XLNC- 120 points121 points  (1 child)

So the old pictures were them at like 13?

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (0 children)

well we were 15, and I guess at least one of them was 17+ as one girl had a car..

but anyway pics were not related to them at all.. I also remember the way they laughed when they said "pics were just old" you could understand by their expression that they are lying

[–]untonyto 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Bless that security guard's soul

[–]Pluglord 31 points32 points  (6 children)

You guys need to stop posting fake stories smh

[–]Lefort3000 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I don't know why you would fake a story like this

[–]Pluglord 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Exactly. Theres no reason to, thats why its so annoying. 70% of stories told on this sub are made up. Its pretty easy to distinguish the real ones from the fake ones if you arent autistic.

[–]mummersfarce_is_done 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I am autistic. Can you teach me how?

[–]Bolt_Ironstag 8 points9 points  (2 children)

How are you buying booze at 15?

[–]lightsaberrave 17 points18 points  (1 child)

did the word 'village' not give you a clue. Dude wasn't in 'Murica

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

lol yeah I don't know why would I fake story like that either.

If I was to fake it I would add something like, "we went to their place, and they had young moms at home that took care of us..."

but yeah I am from east Europe, and back in the days ~10 and more years ago it wasn't hard to buy any alcohol if you were under aged. In the last 5 years or so East Europe has improved in this aspect with having CCTV's and stuff, before there wasn't anything, spare them few coins and they would sell you anything

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Personally, I'd take on the shit test with "I'd be at the bar either way; I'm usually down to get a drink". Doesn't indicate that I'd still be interested in a woman who misrepresents herself but also doesn't say anything to the coworkers that might set off the particularly crazy ones. You do have to work with them on a daily basis after all

[–]waldo888 41 points42 points  (1 child)

some people take women too seriously.

[–]Starfuckingman 11 points12 points  (0 children)

agreed, idk why you are downvoted. I learned on trp not to take them this serious.

[–]pbgswd 8 points9 points  (0 children)

One of my first ever online dates was a total lie. Pretty in the pic, but when we met she had a huge overbight and was obviously low IQ. At that point, I was polite and pleasant, feeling that I had to be somewhat compassionate dealing with a person with a lower intellectual competency.

Sometimes I think that everybody lies, everybody rips everybody else off. It seems to be the only thing that makes sense some days.

[–]Scheme00 31 points32 points  (2 children)

I've done this to a few women on tinder dates but for fun. About 30 seconds before my cab drops me off I tell them I have gained a lot of weight and I don't look like the photos but hope we can still have a good time. One chick even wrote "you're buying drinks until you look good then" . I always thought it was fun because when I walk through the door seeing them on their phone with a creeped out look is always a great ice breaker. Hasn't not worked out yet...

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perfect frame to open such interactions. Great idea.

[–]1Original_Dankster 13 points14 points  (3 children)

I would tell that group of women you work with that I'd wait to see what walked through the door... And if the date was fat or ugly I'd get up and leave right away. But if she was the attractive woman in the Tinder photos I'd get into a FWB or casual sex arrangement. But I would never commit to an untrustworthy, manipulative person.

And yes, I'd be this blunt with the water cooler broads.

[–]maplemaximus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Don't take women seriously. If they try fucking around with you and shit, don't even respond and just move on to something new.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 62 points63 points  (3 children)

They just look at me dumbfounded as if I had a dick growing out of my forehead.

Maybe they looked at you dumbfounded because your misplaced principles got in the way of a fuck with a hot tinder babe, i.e. you cockblocked yourself.

It's okay to be principled in things that matter, but "all is fair in love and war".

It would have been a just a date, and just some sex, why so serious?

[–]red_matrix 40 points41 points  (0 children)

OP was talking to some hens at work, you can't do that 'All's fair in love and war' shit at work, especially around women.

[–]untonyto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As part of a secret society composed of all women and a select group of males, these women were just playing their role in keeping the uninitiated masses ignorant of the actual truth. The Blue Pill/Red Pill is the ultimate test of who "just gets it" or not. The #1 rule of the secret society is you never talk about the secret society or its doctrines. Cue the ill looks for not spouting safe blue pill hogwash in public.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Girls Are Retarded, Exhibit #458,392,473-J

[–]lemming1607 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Youre fucking dumb for revealing your hand to women in your workplace. This is the shit that will get you excommunicated from office politics and possibly fired.

Networking is the most important thing you can do in the workplace. You just shot yourself in the foot, and for what? They aint gonna change bro

[–]baube19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"The opportunity"haha that is the perfect wait to describe how they think about it. NOPE out of there good move!

[–]Gman777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The best response would have been “yeah, maybe I passed her test, but she certainly didn’t pass mine”

[–]suske127 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahaha, priceless. I thought I was good at spotting shit tests but that one slipped my mind for a second. Your response was likely perfect. Good post brother

[–]lone_nordic_wolf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Flawless Victory. Total Red Pill ninja. Nicely done!

[–]U-94 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If I'm already at the bar, I'm getting hammered with whoever walks in. I've had multiple tinder/bumble dates like that. Ended up sleeping with all of them, for better or worse. I'd be more incensed about a woman fucking up my schedule (I probably rushed through work and the gym to make this date happen at an appropriate time) than her being chubbier than her photos. God damnit this date is happening and now we're DRINKING.

[–]jonib0ni 6 points7 points  (13 children)

Nah dude, if she was attractive you would have gone for the date and tried to smash, no matter what she texted you beforehand. Stop kidding yourself.

[–]the_breadcrumbs 1 points1 points [recovered]

Yeah man I know, proper course of action is probably just sex and next. Although at this stage in my life I'd derive a similar amount of pleasure in just politely calling her out on her shit and walking away as I would dipping my wick.

Going thru the song and dance of seducing and fucking her just to spin it around as a "Haha jokes on you bitch!" feels hollow to me. That kind of behavior from a woman just turns me right the fuck off, and especially if it's that early and up front.

[–]ryantheman2 12 points13 points  (11 children)

Same here, nothing turns me off like a good shit test. She wants to play those games, I'm not even interested.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 15 points16 points  (7 children)

Wait till you are married for 25 years. Sometimes I ignore my Wife for days. If She Wants To Be A Bitchy Bossy Shit Testing Harpy she can do it all by herself without my input. Enjoy. Life is too short for that bullshit and I for sure prefer to ban bossy and don't want to stick my dick in it.

For a while I viewed her constant shit testing as a challenge and even foreplay but I am done with that and she is slowly learning that if She wants to bitch and play games she will be home alone.

Of course when I am furiously ignoring her she becomes touchy feely and decides that she wants sex. What the fuck is wrong with these creatures?

You literally have to work yourself into a rage and be a total asshole and consciously work to treat her dismissively and yes, badly before they make ANY effort to treat you even halfway decent.

Thankfully it gets easier and easier to truly not care with each denial, each shit test taking a visible toll on the man.

[–]2Archterus 6 points7 points  (2 children)

u/BluepillProfessor. It sounds like you are dying on the inside. Must be a reason that keeps you there, certainly does not sound like it is her.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Not dying. The words are "becoming a bit more stoic every day."

[–]bowhunter6 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Next her, my friend. Starting fresh with a new one using your RP knowledge makes it ridiculously easier. Submissive, kinky, and compliant for as long as you maintain your dominant frame, or until it runs it's natural course. You can't put the genie back in the bottle, and you can't undo your previous beta ways; they never forget (nor do you), and the constant battle isn't worth it. You have so much righteous anger, and you likely can't let it all go with her. Inner peace can be achieved, just maybe not with her. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. You have helped so many other men, including myself; I hope you find peace, brother.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nah, I am practicing by posting on TRP.

This article by Roosh grabbed me a few days ago about the difference between a soft next and "detachment" and I was going to do a post on it but decided I didn't have much to add to the master. Going forward I think I have a better handle on how to answer questions from some guys, however.

I have been advocating the soft next basically to punish bad behavior in marriages but Roosh makes the distinction between fully withdrawing yourself for a few days (soft next) and "detachment."

In order to properly detach from a women with whom, say, you have oneituis for, what you must do is first make the decision to detach. Spend some time writing about your relationship with her, about the ways in which her behaviour unsettles or annoys you.

So there you go. A rare window into the mind of a Merp writer.

[–]ksande 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's probably looking for passion, trying to spike your emotions. Give her more passion, my 2c...

[–]jonib0ni 1 point2 points  (1 child)

But they all do it, to some degree. There really is no way around it I'm afraid.

[–]ryantheman2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is true… Let me rephrase.

Nothing turns me off like a gleeful shit test.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How long before OP is accused of creating a "hostile" or "Toxic" work environment.

Hope you got another job lined up OP.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great post, thanks for sharing. I think this is less of an example of AWALT and more just an example of an immature mind game many women choose to play these days because they are bored. As someone said in the comments, this is a retarded shit test. I don't think any mentally/emotionally healthy woman would think this is a socially-normal or mature thing to do. I've gone on dates with hundreds of women over the last few years and have never had to deal with this. It's weird and immature, beyond the scope of this sub.

[–]icutrauma11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This reeks of a hallmark movie. Girls do not shit test this way. They challenge the ability of the man to be a man and keep them in check like you would an 11 year old girl attempting to get her way. Not to check his level of being romantic. Don't buy it. Suggestion, stop conversing with women at the water cooler if you are. The more often you place yourself in in the company of women in this manner the greater percentages one of them will accuse you of being innappropriate.

[–]MumMaroon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol as a girl we say this shit all the time. Especially if on our periods lol

[–]X-Trem0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

as I know I'm about to go full red pill.

hehehe lovely. Gotta bite your tongue tho, we all do :)

[–]WestyWorld 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dunno if she was hot I’d probably bone her that night then go dark immediately after.

[–]TheDevilsAdvokaat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup. She's already proved she's a manipulative liar.

[–]untonyto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good job stopping yourself before going full red pill.

[–]Psychocist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Modern dating is pathetic. So happy I've gone beyond waiting out for a "quality" woman and learning to be happy alone.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol wrong answer. Simply because, first of all it's Tinder. Who goes looking for a serious LTR on tinder? It's all a game dude. Tinder is all about the pump and dump. Why go all super serious about it?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why not fuck the walking disposable pussy for a few weeks and get a new one?

[–]mr-wr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like this story, My ex also wanted to test me with “I am going to get a job because I need money, a friend of mine offered me a job that I am going to measure the size of mens body part, biceps, waist etc. at the shopping center.” And I said “it is okey for me, if you need money. Of course you can, it is a ridiculous topic to talk about it.” She shocked and start grumbling. She was hoping the rejection by me, maybe financial support. Dude! Be careful with shitty tests.

[–]Thizzlebot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What a retarded ego answer. You can still bang her but never upgrade her to GF because she's already playing games.

[–]shipintbrief 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We need to get back to «didnt get laid — dont post» days. This is in no way a field report. And badly written.

[–]huge_gap 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eh stop trying to red pill women especially in your work environment. Rule of Power: act like others but think as you wish.

[–]Ichewfivegum 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Ahahaahahaha id probably take it a step further and fuck her then never call even if she was the girl In the pictures. Just out of morbid I'm a fucking cunt don't pull that shit on me.

[–]Starfuckingman 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well, although I don't mind what you said but in my opinion, it feels like you said so much lol. If you'd be more witty or try to make a joke out of it that gives off the same response, would've been shit ton better. But this, idk if anyone would agree, feels like you are a bit of a meninist. (similar to a hardcore feminist if she was asked something similar by a group of guys)

[–]wide_awoke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bahahahaha!! OP you made my day!

[–]RedPillDevil 3 points4 points  (2 children)

"So I'm at work shooting the shit with a few female coworkers."

This is your mistake. You have nothing to gain bringing your ideology to women at work in this manner.

[–]the_breadcrumbs 1 points1 points [recovered]

So what are you suggesting actually? To refuse to engage in conversation with women in the workplace that does not explicitly deal with work? Huurrr yeah dude cuz #metoo..!!

And my ideology? I didn't pull out my phone and start reading the fucking sidebar to them.

Loosen up a little man, the world isn't so black and white, or red and blue in this case I guess.

[–]RedPillDevil 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're presenting a false dichotomy. Talk with women about my views of women vs talk only about work. Obviously you can talk to women about non work stuff. I personally would save my red pill justicing theories to myself. There's little to gain asside a smirk at the end of the day and FR on reddit. Congrats you've got karma points. Some people care about avoiding inciting bitterness haphazardly in their careers by throwing our egos around women and their relationship fantasies.

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