Summary: 30+ year old women literally cannot accept the fact that they are lowering in value. They will hamster - and hamster - and hamster - till their face turns blue and the cows come home. Don't ever get in an argument with them, it's a waste of time and will never get through their heads.
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Okay, so imagine the typical girl who posts on Reddit. Pretty vomit inducing, right? That combination of unattractive features, weight, and massive entitlement complex is enough to sour any woman unfortunate enough to be burdened with all of that.
Now imagine what this girl would be like if she's 20 years older, 40 pounds fatter, still hasn't found the right guy, and the world is starting to ignore her because she's post-wall.
That's right folks. I give you the AskWomenOver30 sub. It's chock full of 30+ year old gals who are so unwanted they can't even get catcalled anymore. But instead of being humble, they hamster all day and pretend that everything is fine - because that's how women are hardwired to see the world. They cannot accept a logical and rational based assessment. Everything has to be warped to fit a Girl Power feminist narrative. A great example was this thread yesterday where a girl in her 20s worries about having to settle if she doesn't find Mr. Right eventually.
I am often told that my standards [for a prospective SO] should and will drop in time.
Sure, I understand the notion of the colloquial "wall" and its effect on a female's psychology & physiology.
But I've heard this enough times that I've decided to take pause and ask for guidance.
In fact, I am more bothered with how frequently & how callously I hear this sort of commentary made (especially by spiteful, rejected men). What is your experience with this?
Do you have advice or suggestions?
A response for the next time someone says this?
And observe the responses...
Mine changed. In my thirties I figured out what I wanted in a partner. They went from things like “has to be fun” to “has to be in decent financial standing.” Id say my standards increased as I aged
FUCKING LOL. Just read that shit, gents. That's what women imagine to be higher standards. After having fun with 8%-body-fat-Brad, they suddenly can't get him anymore when they're too old, so they look for a beta provider to lock down. He may not make their vagina tingle but he can at least make their credit cards tingle. Rising standards my ass.
"The Wall" is some Red Pill bullshit. Today I am smarter, stronger, and more self-assured than I have ever been. So what if my pores are a little bigger than they used to be, or that I can't burn off an entire pizza as quickly as I used to.
So you're more greasy and fat, now that you're past your prime. And this is a good thing... how? I think I missed a part of her argument because I am not understanding how she came to this conclusion.
"The wall" is silly. But tbf, some notions about what you want as a young co-ed can be silly too. Lots of people legitimately say things like "6'+, must be better educated, and make more money than me" when, like, just due to the fact that women are getting 60% of higher education degrees, there cannot possibly be enough men with greater educational attainment to go around. That's before narrowing by income, height and whatever else you think is important, obviously. So eventually, "Makes more money" becomes "financially stable" or even "somewhat precarious but through no fault of his own (ie, medical debt)." "Better educated" becomes "Loves his job or demonstrates ambition in his career." "6 feet +" becomes "Eh, whatever." There are more grey area ones like "Can't have had kids" -- some people hold firm on these, some don't. With time we all get more adept at articulating what matters.
So she begins by saying the Wall is bullshit. And then ends her same post admitting that her standards have dropped (6 foot tall has become "meh"). The hamstering is unreal. There should be a winter Olympics sport for this, these women could win some serious gold medals.
That’s stupid. I got way more picky as I aged. When you’re 20, you’ll date just about anyone cause it’s just dating. When you’re 30 you’re looking for someone to buy a house with and have babies and shit, and that is a whole other set of criteria.
I'm not even going to comment on this. Sorry if reading it made your snort coffee out of your nose.
Hmm. Well, how would you describe your standards? Mine haven't dropped, by they did change to focus more on things that are important for building a functional relationship, and less on things that might impress others or make for the most exciting relationship possible.
Say it with me: B E T A M A L E. Notice how she doesn't even specify what she means by a functional relationship... because if she spells it out, it'll be so obvious that she's trying to lock down a naive dopey provider. Must make money, must be good with the kids...
Understand this. Women don't get wiser as they get older - they just get older. The hamstering is still there. The rationalization is still there. Only now it's accompanied by a big dollop of bitterness and attempting to shame men for dating younger females.
Don't fall for it. Do not date these post-wall women unless you want to be part of the above fantasies, ie. a passive guy with a big ATM. Stay frosty.
TL;DR: Women continue to hamster as they hit the Wall, and it only gets worse with each passing year. Don't fall for their rationalizations, understand that it's a desperate attempt to remain relevant in a world that no longer wants them or pays attention to them.