Building PowerStop Being Afraid of Aggression and Learn How to Harness It (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by hawkeaglejesus

Just the word "aggression" carries a negative stigma. As if it's a disease to avoid and eradicate out of existence. Why is that?

I would say it's because of the rule of Feminine Imperative in the western world.

Polarity being what it is means feminine and masculine qualities are diametrically opposed. To be feminine is to give, be kind and caring. To be masculine is to take, be selfish and aggressive.

Don't confuse aggression with violence. Violence is one of the many manifestations of aggression. My definition of aggression is raw masculine energy.

Approaching and escalating takes aggression, getting a raise takes aggression, defending yourself against enemies takes aggression.

Aggression is what fuels competition. You want the guy that can sell the most product working for you, the guy who can score the most points on your team, the guy that can kill the most enemies guarding your back.

There isn't a single problem in this world you can't solve with a good dose of male aggression. Mountain in your way between points A and B? Blow it up. Your body weak? Channel your aggression into iron. Your girl not satisfied? Not fucking her aggressively enough.

Aggression is what makes the world go round. The reason you're a law abiding member of society is because aggressive men with badges would show up if you weren't.

For those that would misinterpret my message. I'm not advocating for constant displays of aggression. You don't have to approach every woman you see, fight every guy you meet, or try to show off what a big manly man you are. But you should know your own capacity for aggression. Know that you're capable of approaching and escalating on a woman. That you're capable of violence if someone threatens you.

Take the US for example. You think anyone would dare fuck with us or our allies? We don't have to be in a constant state of aggression as long as the world is aware of our capacity for aggression. Male Aggression is what wins wars.

Men are measured by their ability to achieve. Women are measured by their ability to get along. That's why men don't want under-performing losers on their team and why women get rid of friends who "thinks she's better than everyone else"

Being selfish goes hand-in-hand with aggression.

I am going to sell as much product as I can because I selfishly want the biggest bonus. A woman sells as much as she can until her coworkers get jealous and won't invite her to lunch with the girls anymore.

Look in the world of business. You think the people running Amazon ever gave a fuck about how many mom and pop shops they were putting out of business? The only thing driving that company is raw selfish aggression.

Aggression comes from not being satisfied with where you are. It drives you forward by wanting to be the best.

It drives men to explore, to find new resources, to conquer new lands, to fill a never-ending desire for more.

Aggressive men seeking to fulfill their selfish desires for money, fame, glory, and the knowledge that they've left a mark on this world is the reason you live in a veritable utopia of safety, comfort, and luxury compared to every generation that came before you.

tl;dr Be aggressive and selfish. It benefits you and everyone around you.

[–]EnzoGold 122 points123 points  (0 children)

Aggression is what makes the world go round. The reason you're a law abiding member of society is because aggressive men with badges would show up if you weren't.

This instantly showed me what aggression is. I felt the aura of aggression when I read that. Great post.

[–]aguywholifts 1 points1 points [recovered]

Aggression is such an important thing for men to have. The best way to harness it is through lifting and fucking. Nothing gets my testosterone going than channeling anger and aggression through some heavy lifting. Especially squats. Workouts like that also make me so horny and all I can think about on the way home is destroying some pussy.

[–]wtffellification 9 points10 points  (3 children)

We all 'have' agression in us, so that's irrelevant.. What's important, essentially for men, is to be able to act on agression; not neccessarily acting on it, but the ability to.

What's important is not to repress your primal agressive tendencies, as this can be dangerous for oneself and everyone around. What's important is letting your innate animalistic agressiveness openly flow through you, yet at the same time being able to control and resist these impulses.

You don't need to lift like a maniac or destroy pussy to 'harness' your agression (We just happen to be on TRP page and these two 'techinques' are obviously the favourite and most common ways around here) But the truth is, there are many different ways in which we can channel our agression in non-unhealthy and productive ways.

[–]AwesomeCool909 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Being assertive means being mildly aggressive...and everyone says men should be assertive.

The term was invented because society started to hate men and praise women as god. Aka a way to remove the negative stigma starting to attach itself to aggression and other masculine terms.

[–]hawkeaglejesus[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Aggression is your raw pool of masculine energy. When people say be assertive/bold/confident, all you're doing is taking a small piece of of the total pool and applying it however you see fit.

Doesn't matter if you're a caveman that wants to kill and animal to feed your family or trying to get a drink at the bar without waiting for the worker to call on you while you wait like a dunce. Aggression works.

What people seem to be failing to realize is it's your duty as a man to figure out how much aggression is required to deal with a particular problem.

Using too much aggression for a problem that requires only a little bit of it is as grave of a mistake as condemning aggression entirely.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (25 children)

Nothing gets my test flowing like injecting it. 350-380 bench in 3 weeks, at this rate I’ll be hitting 405 for a double in the next month. Seriously it feels fucking amazing constantly busting PRs and fat nuts.

[–]aguywholifts 1 points1 points [recovered]

What are you running bro? test-e?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (19 children)

Yessir. Started the first week with 50mg/dbol every day, but my blood pressure got really high really fast. Been on 25mg every day and everything has been going really well. I only ohp once every month or two, the last 2-3 months I’ve been between 205 and 215 strict. Crushed 245 the other day, probably had 255 in me but I was a little nervous and figured I’d just take the 30lb PR. Same on bench, nearly paused 390 the same day I did 380 but failed due to inefficient form, I know for a fact I have the strength in me to do it, just a matter of staying tight and keeping my feet stable.

[–]aguywholifts 1 points1 points [recovered]

Oh wow, every day? I'm only injecting two times a week. About to start week 4 of my first cycle. Your numbers sound amazing. I was nowhere near my limit before I started my cycle, though. Had a couple of injuries over the past year that hindered my progress, grew frustrated, was already planning on starting steroids, just jumped the gun and I really don't regret it. Progress in the gym started really picking up this week, which excites me a lot. I was already mentally a gym rat. But using roids has caused me to pretty much only want to do two things, lift and fuck. Nonstop erections. Balls shrunk a little, but I expected that. People have also been commenting a lot about my temper, which seems to have gotten more aggressive. I love it. Considering cruising / blasting for 8 weeks after 12 weeks and then taking 4 off and then looking to do tren or something. Gotta do more research. I just know that I love how I feel since I started.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (17 children)

Dbol is an oral, just taking half of a pill each day 30min-1hr before my workout. Thanks, I’m 100% certain I could’ve at least benched 425 and deadlifted 700 naturally, not sure about squat maybe ~600.

But yeah just did my final pin of week 4 (twice a week, running 600/week) and the gains are flowing in. Up 15lbs from 255. Face is a bit bloated, nuts just started shrinking a few days ago, shorter temper and more confident (not getting nervous at all during job interviews), higher sex drive, I’m much more calm and collected, and oddly enough my stuttering has been better. Usually I get really excited when talking about lifting and end up stuttering a little bit every few sentences. Has only ever happened in the gym so I always made up the excuse that I was tweaking out on my preworkout lol.

This is my first cycle, but I am going to blast and cruise. Will probably hop on 200mg/week of test cyp for 8-12 weeks before blasting again. Next blast I’ll probably just add in deca, and then the blast after that I’ll give tren a shot (heh).

Thought for aure my test was fake up until this week, the things I’m doing in the gym are fucking insane. Set a bench pr of 365, deadlifted the next day, went home, friend needed me to let him in the gym so I went back and decided to bench for fun. Bam 380. Stretch marks are coming in everywhere. I got all the “you’re fucking huge/that’s a retarded amount of weight on there” comments before when I was natty, but now it’s like 10x more frequent. Stopped training at a commercial gym where I was pretty close with a lot of people. Can’t wait to go back and bench 405 for reps while having someone who saved me from dropping 315 on my chest spot me.

I FEEL LIKE A FUCKING GOD! Can’t fucking wait to start REALLY delving into the other compounds. It’s gonna be so fun getting insanely strong while not being a fatass haha. I’ll post progress pics and numbers in the roid sub when my 12 weeks are up. I personally think blast and cruise is the way to go unless you’re just a recreational lifter who wants to look good for their upcoming vacation.

[–]auto-xkcd37 3 points4 points  (2 children)

fat ass-haha

Bleep-bloop, I'm a bot. This comment was inspired by xkcd#37

[–]aguywholifts 1 points1 points [recovered]

Dude same. Right down to thinking that it wasn’t working the way I thought it would. I didn’t think it was fake, but I went through some paranoia of not pinning properly or not injecting into the muscles. Weird though because after my two most recent pins I have some soreness in my injection sites which I only experienced after my first injection so I dunno what’s up with that.

The positive effects that I read about have been coming to fruition and I couldn’t be more thrilled about them. So stoked to see how far it takes me with my limits. Really disappointed that I wasn’t at my natural limit, or had any idea how far off I was from it. My last injury lasted 4 months (herniated a disc that was touching my spinal chord which might as well disabled me) from incompetent doctors until I finally got the issue fixed from surgery last month.

Was out of the gym for two months during that time but got medicine and hit the gym because I was going crazy without that part of my life and I couldn’t even lift a plate for my bench the pain was that bad. Couldn’t rest the barbell on my shoulders for squats either. Using has helped me quickly regain the strength lost, but can’t stop speculating where I would be if the injuries never happened and I was closer to my natural limit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Sucks man. My buddy totaled 1650 @220 at his first meet. Like a 400 bench 700 deadlift and 650 squat. Fractured his L5 and herniated a disc from squatting. Then a few weeks later he fucked up his shoulder benching like 275. All it takes is one ugly rep to destroy you. Consider yoursef blessed you’re pretty much recovered, my buddy will likely never be able to deadlift or squat again.

I haven’t quite figured out pinning yet either. First 2 weeks I rotated between my VGs, reason I stopped is because I had some real NASTY pip that lasted over a week. I think sitting or sleeping a certain way might have caused this, but I haven’t injected glutes since. It was like someone cut open my hip, inserted a hot pocket, and sewed it back up. Think I may have injected subQ and the oil shifted away from the site into a much smaller and weaker muscle. Working for me so far, just inject as deep as you can and as long as you don’t hit a nerve you’re good to inject whether you aspirate or not. I haven’t aspirated any of my pins yet. I definitely will when I run tren, but until then I won’t bother, it’s hard enough to actually push the plunger down with the syringes I have lol. All my delt pins are VERY sloppy, but with EXTREMELY mild and manageable pip. Rambling now, but I really love this stuff. It has given me something extra to talk about with a few of my friends. It’s like a hobby in itself which is pretty cool. Just like coming up with training programs, chances are you will always be able to improve on something somewhere whether it’s the timing of pins, how many mLs at a time, technique, and incorporating other drugs to safely get rid of side effects like nolva and clomid for gyno.

[–]aguywholifts 1 points1 points [recovered]

Dude that sucks. I dunno how he is dealing with that mentally. Just from my disc herniation and having the pain from simply 1 plate for benching and dealing with the pain it gave me felt like a weak little bitch. The mental destruction feeling like a pussy gives you when your main hobby is lifting and you can’t bench 90lbs of plates? The worst.

I love talking about it too. Everything about lifting and enhancements just makes me excited. Its rare in this sub to find someone who is juicing. It’s so frowned upon by a lot of the guys here who frankly don’t really know what they are talking about and are quick to pass judgment. A shame, really. Particularly when it comes to getting stronger and identifying and feeling more like a man, steroid use has helped shape me tremendously.

Wish I would have done this earlier so I can fully utilize the increased libido because my girlfriend gets sore.

[–]Laughing_in_the_road 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have been curious about trying steroids? Don’t know where to get any... I have considered doctor shopping and just outright asking for T injections or something... I have also looked at the Dbol website. Is Dbol work? Seems odd being able to order anabolic steroids right over the internet with my credit card. Confused about all the legalities

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

My buddy wih the injuries is getting by. One thing most powerlifters have is extreme dedication to the gym. He has found ways to still train. Behind the back deadlifts/barbell hack squats and benching with a football bar while wearing a slingshot is good enough for now. It’s better than nothing lol. It’s cool, I showed him the behind the back deadlifts and told him to give them a try, the look on his face when he pulled 135 pain free was unforgettable.

[–]JesseVenturaa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Jesus Christ dude you are fucking crazy... but i mean it in a good way.

[–]blindface 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Face is a bit bloated, nuts just started shrinking a few days ago,

I've gotta ask, isn't that a problem?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Nope those are signs that everything is working properly. Bloat is from water retention and the nut shrinking means the test I have is real. I’m getting so much test in my body now that it is naturally shutting down its own test production aka balls get small.

[–]blindface 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What about the stories you read about body builders who need to start taking testosterone replacement because their bodies never recovered from the steroids. Is that BS or is there something else I'm missing?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is true, although overblown. There have been people who have been on for years and have fully recovered. The longer you’re on the longer it will take to recover and kickstart your body into naturally producing test again, and regardless there’s always the chance your body won’t. Everybody is different, some guys can be on for a year and never recover. And since that’s a possibility, in my opinion, if you’re not willing to be pinning yourself for life, you should never even consider taking steroids.

[–]cBIGONE 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Are you worried about not being able to have kids? Or you already have enough lol

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Only 21, honestly probably not mature enough to have made the decision to start. I’m impulsive, but adult decisions have adult consequences. I have wanted kids in the past, but with the way my life is going I can barely make time to have a girlfriend, let alone build a proper and strong relationship that would be tremendously beneficial to raise a child in. Maybe my mind will changw, and if it does hopefully I can make use of some other drugs to aid in the recovery process, if not then it wasn’t meant to be. Sounds horrible, but “worst” case scenario I end up adopting or enter into a relationship with a single mother (lol...). Only time will tell shrug.

[–]cBIGONE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing! I have always considered dabbling, but I want kids soon. maybe after

[–]GoCleanYourRoom 21 points22 points  (2 children)

He who has weapons and knows how to use them but keeps them sheathed, will inherit the earth.

Uncontrolled aggression is a force for complete catastrophe. Knowing that you are not to be fucked with but never losing your cool is a much better option. People wont want to associate themselves with you if you are unnecessarily violent and aggressive.

[–]mnemos_1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The trouble though, is that this depends on you losing your cool at least once to get the severity of you doing so across. There will be that one bitch plucky enough to keep pushing you, and will continue to make you feel a fool because you refuse to unsheath them.

You'll have to burn the world at least once before people realise pouring gas on you may not be a good idea.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plus if you're not careful and controlled you'll bite more than you can chew and meet someone with more aggressive power than you.

[–]Redpillpaint 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I could relate to this. I went to Christmas party at work, i wasn't being social bitching and moaning why I shouldn't talk to people. I also drank which broke the record of not being drinking alcohol for six months.

At the end of the night, I felt like a shit and couldn't sleep. In the morning I took all this agression in lifting. Pushed my leg day and puked felt like million bucks. Agression is a good thing if you motivate yourself.

[–]-Mavs 33 points34 points  (6 children)

Aggression for me has yielded the following results: other men find me intimidating, stores think I'm going to steal (despite me working a job where integrity is the only thing that matters), etc.

Despite all the negative to it, women LOVE it.

It's as if they see intimidation = protection from other men; only, of course, if the guy is attractive. Otherwise intimidating is just intimidating.

[–]yomo86 28 points29 points  (2 children)

I'm going to steal (despite me working a job where integrity is the only thing that matters)

Then you project a negative image of aggression. I intimidate the store clerks with politeness and frame. They do my bidding as I am one who is paying and be able to convince the owner when I am wronged by a lazy clerk. Maybe it is your sense of fashion or the way you talk but when someone assumes you might steal you did something wrong.

[–]AwesomeCool909 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I know, it's amazing right.

A girl was amazed at the service I got from the maintenance team at my apartment complex. She said they acted like servants in front of me.

They treated me like a king coming in a seconds notice, but everyone else complained they never ever came.

All it took was some controlled aggression.

Treat people with respect, but demand respect in return. It changes how the world reacts to you.

[–]-Mavs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Believe me, I've tried everything to look less intimidating but none of it works. I've tried goofy "soft" facial expressions to convey dorkiness or whatever and even strolled into a grocery store in my work uniform: polo shirt and cargo pants. I'm still a "thief";

After a while, you get tired of having to try and convince these stores that you're not there to steal; I just roll will it these days.

I know what some young black men experience and empathize with them.

[–]Redpilledaccordingly 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Last part nailed it accurately. When it’s a handsome, high SMV man doing it. It’s incredibly “haaaawwt”, but an ugly man doing it. It’s suddenly unhinged pysco.

[–]blackpinkera 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isn't it like when an ugly women wears revealing clothing?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Be assertive not aggressive.

[–]swaglordobama 1 points1 points [recovered]

Your definition of masculine energy is wrong. Masculinity is not about taking or being aggressive; that is scarcity, ego, and testosterone. Masculinity is about collaborative competition, giving, and protecting.

Aggression is retarded. Dumbasses think that there is only one kind of alpha, and he is the biggest, strongest man in the tribe. This is simply not true, namely because we are social animals and our survival depends on collaboration between people in the tribe. The human alpha, then is the most resourceful and socially intelligent monkey in the pack, not the biggest or angriest.

Feminine energy is based around contraction. Masculine energy is based around expansion. This is how they create balance. You need both in your life.

This sub often dabs into misogyny, slut shaming, and an "us v.s. them" mentality. That shit is toxic and does nothing to improve your life. We're on the same fucking team. Women are actually amazing to have around and be friends with. Younger women are in a state of permanent abundance, which causes them behave in ways that baffle the shit out of men in scarcity.

You should have boundaries, but instead of getting angry or aggressive when they are trampled on, give the person one warning, then remove them from your life. You should have so much cool shit going on in your life that people WANT to be around you. Go out and be social and friendly, make friends with everyone. Watch amazing opportunities roll into your life just because you said hi and bought some cool dude a beer. Watch yourself gain access to gorgeous women because you are platonic friends with a few girls or guys in the model industry.

The world is not a lonely place, we all want to help eachother. It's only the bitter faux-alpha (falfa? Hahaha) that wants to bring others down or take without giving. Aggression should only be applied against yourself as a means of creating momentum and inertia in your life.

[–]_MysticFox 7 points8 points  (4 children)

yo man, how do you get people to want to be around you? I'm in college and it seems like Greek life and partying dominates. I don't know what activities I can come up with to make things a good time.

I'm a good enough conversationalist to be entertaining and I know a lot of shit cause I'm a nerd, but activities is what gets people to really bond, yeah?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Pick a hobby you like, find other people that do it.

[–]1swaglordobama 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When I go to a club or party, I focus on my own fun. I dance like a sexy retard. People join in. I have so much carefree fun that in clubs I usually start dance battles and put a smile on people's faces. If there is a pole I start dancing like a stripper and girls lose their shit and start shrieking. When other people start dancing I praise and encourage them to keep going. High fives, fist bumps, thumbs up, hugs, "awesome!" "Amazing!" "I love it" etc. It's all about having a fun, carefree, and collaborative energy.

Girls open you, ask you to dance. The shy ones come near you and hope for you to open them. If they make eye contact, you have to open or they will think you're a pussy. Occasionally a girl will already have a guy with her and still open you. It's dope.

Have fun and let people join in, then go be social. Talk to guys, talk to girls. Party closing is the easiest thing in the world. "I love your swagger/dancing, let's party in the future!" "Let's do a selfie" send it to them on instagram or facebook. Close everyone, invite them out. Get a posse.

Most of my convos are not logical. I just make up shit and self amuse. Stupid accents, pretend i'm retarded, point at people and say they are my kids/dad/uncle/mom, etc. The more fun and stupid the conversation is, the more people will enjoy it and engage with it. With guys you can bond over logical questions, but for girls you should engage their emotional core. When you tell stories focus on details like feelings, visuals, smells, colors, textures, etc.

As for events, the easiest thing you can do is organize weekly dinners and monthly parties. The people you party close should be invited, along with some good, social friends. Bond with them over food. Tell stories (I can riff endlessly from story weaving alone.), free associate, etc. You don't need to do that much, just introduce people and say something good about them. The value you give as a social connector is priceless. If you throw a monthly party invite everybody out and take a ton of pictures. Put them on social media, share with everybody. This creates FOMO and gets them to want to come out to future parties. Also creates massive social proof.

[–]hawkeaglejesus[S] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

I'm in college and it seems like Greek life and partying dominates

Who would've thought that men known for being aggressive and selfish are the top of the social dominance hierarchy

[–]Jfc_Manners 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Who can take you seriously after you contrast masculinity with testosterone?

[–]microtry 2 points3 points  (2 children)

For what it's worth, I agree with you. I'd say most people on TRP are stuck on the ego centric perspective of "selfish gain" of masculinity, which is the shadow of masculinity, versus the manifesting/creative driving force that is the mind, which is true masculinity. It's a matter of men being the creative force, and women being the reactive. Nothing to do with aggression. Aggression is actually a reactive force, and therefore the "negative" type of masculinity.

[–]1swaglordobama 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Aggression towards others is. You should transmute aggression into momentum for self improvement. One of the most important factors of manhood is ego destruction and complete surrender, reframing failure to learning.

Taking is scarcity mindset. Giving is abundance mindset.

A night out is like baking a cake. You don't flip a shit because your cake doesn't taste like chocolate when all you have is flour and eggs in a bowl.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 6 points7 points  (4 children)

competition, giving, and protecting

Da fuq? You're defining what is it to be a 'good man', as Jack Donovan puts it. There is a difference between a 'good man' and a man 'good at being a man'. Do you feel the difference?

The guy who is a 'good man' is cucked, and values feminine traits. The man who is 'good at being a man' is amoral and is precisely what the OP suggests.

misogyny, slut shaming

Fuck off with your white knight, cucked bullshit.

[–]1swaglordobama 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No, these are our primal roles. Women have higher survival value than men, hence why men go to war take on dangerous tasks. If a tribe has 50 men and 50 women, one man can impregnate all 50 women. Loss of men doesn't impact the tribes' survival nearly as much as loss of women.

As men we give to society. We build things, we make discoveries. We work towards a better on the future, while women nurture the present. To women we give love, security, reasoning.

Competition is pretty obvious. We compete to better ourselves and our tribe.

Misogyny and slut shaming literally accomplish nothing. Making a girl feel like a slut is a sure way to never see her again. Hating women because you're a bitter beta-boy who thinks he can become "alpha" by manipulating women is akin to putting a bandage over a grievous wound. Get over it. You're not filling that hole inside of you by being butthurt and vitriolic. Women are fucking amazing. I love having them in my life, as both platonic friends and lovers.

[–]microtry 4 points5 points  (2 children)

You're not seeing what he's actually saying. You confuse the outer appearance of what a "real man" would do, versus the mentality of a real man. It is an attempt to to do the actions of a "real man" in order to get to the mindset, rather than acting on your own accord whilst appearing to the outside as a man who is "real". It's a subtle difference, and to the observer it would seem the same if unenlightened, but to the person doing the action it is different.

It is the same as people who are crazy driven to make money to fuck bitches to get nice cars and think it will make them happy, without realizing that it isn't the point. It is the people who have that vision for their own life that feel fulfilled when they acquire these things, but it has nothing to do with the material gain itself.

I know Eckhart Tolle is not the most RP dude to present here, but read his "Power of Now" book. Spirituality does not have to be some "beta cuck shit" if you truly understand it.

EDIT: In addition, the man who is "good at being a man" is amoral, which is not the same thing as immoral. He is a man that is not affected by morality but by his own driving force. However, it also means that he is not reactive to his environment, and therefore does not deliberately fuck anyone over for the sake of domination, only as a by product of his own vision. Subtle, but important difference.

Corey, the "Alpha Buddha" springs to mind. His obliviousness to the "rules" and proper societal etiquette makes him attractive, not his "aggression" or bravado.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I fear that for many, doing the spirituality shit and the actions of a 'real man' will cause many to get cucked. They need to overcompensate with bravado, until it is a part of their nature and they can then fall more towards the center.

By Corey, you mean Corey Wayne?

[–]microtry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have no doubt that in order to recover from the "Nice guy" syndrome it is necessary to swing to the other extreme only to understand what the other extreme is. And yes, you will in fact be more successful in getting bitches and fucking and all that. But that too will be scarcity level thinking, just on the "masculine" polar energy. To evolve beyond that you must adopt the higher state of being as a man. Become a patriarch. Of your own life, of your own thoughts, of your actions, but never in reaction to something else, always coming from the depths of your true Self. I'm referring to some Buddhist concepts here, so if you are not familiar with the ideology/religion, it is difficult to explain. Take psychedelics and you'll uncover yourself for who you truly are, if you want to find it.

By Corey I mean https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/20/alpha/

If you're too lazy to read, here is the abstract:

Alpha is mindset, not a demographic.

Alpha is as Alpha does, it isn’t what we say it is. There are noble Alphas and there are scoundrel Alphas, the difference is all in how they apply themselves. There’s a tendency to approach every “Alpha” argument from what a guy thinks is righteousness; ergo, his personal definition of Alpha is what appeals best to his sense of virtue. He earned his Alpha cred, played by the rules, and by God people (women) should respect that. However, the sad truth is that prisons are full of Alpha males who simply channeled their drive toward destructive and anti-social endeavors. There are plenty of examples of indifferent Asshole Alphas who you wouldn’t say are upstanding moral leaders at all, yet women will literally kill each other (or themselves) in order to bang them because they exude a natural Alpha-ness. Just as Corey does here. There are Alpha drug dealing gang leaders, and there are Alpha husbands, fathers and leaders of industry. It’s all in the application. Genghis Khan was Alpha as fuck, and a leader-of-men, but probably would be on most people’s douchebag list for that era. Here’s an illustration:


Guy’s like Corey infuriate men who have invested their self-worth in the accomplishments of what they think ought to be universally appreciated and rewarded. So when they’re confronted with a natural Alpha being undeservedly rewarded for brazenly acting out of accord with what they think the rules ought to be, they seethe with resentment. The natural response in the face of such an inconsistency is to redefine the term ‘Alpha’ to cater to themselves and their accomplishments as “real men” and exclude the perpetrator. The conflict then comes from seeing his new definition of Alpha not being rewarded or even appreciated as well as a natural Alpha attitude and the cycle continues. Your respect (or anyone else’s) for an Alpha has nothing to do with whether or not he possess an Alpha mindset. 3 failed marriages and 100+ lays has nothing to do with his having or not having an Alpha mindset. There are many well respected betas who’ve never had a passing thought of infidelity, or may have 300 lays either with prostitutes or because they possess fame or stunning good looks and women come to him by matter of course.

///I assume you haven't read the Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi, since he references this post in the book; it is one of the required readings of this subreddit, and his blog is on the sidereel. I strongly recommend you get the book

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Dr. Jordan Peterson made a great point regarding this in an interview I saw. He was talking about the biblical phrase (the meek shall inherit the earth) and through his knowledge of biblical greek concluded that the word meek was often mistranslated in to "being weak". Instead, according to him it means someone who has both the capacity for agression and the capacity to restrain agression.

[–]OrgasmicKitkat 25 points26 points  (37 children)

My 2 cents on this:

If you struggle to stay your ground when somebody's being aggressive towards you, whether they are trying to pick a fight, just being a dick or having an argument with you like most human beings have on a more or less regular basis, try practicing a martial art.

Ever since I picked up ninjutsu I've become a lot more assertive. And the one time some random guy got violent with me I was able to, more or less calmly, de escalate the situation.

Before I would have panicked. And I would bitch out even when having just an argument with say, my dad or my ex. Seriously, martial arts can do wonders for guys with naturally weak personalities

[–]JaspersChest 8 points9 points  (16 children)

Ninjustu huh? What does that fighting style focus on?

[–]ttkkk 84 points85 points  (3 children)

Vanish like a shadow when she asks for marriage

[–]OrgasmicKitkat 9 points10 points  (7 children)

Joint locks and "dirty" fighting, mainly. Sort of a hard-core aikido. Everything is allowed so long as you don't seriously hurt your partner.

And as the name implies, you are supposed to conceal your true intentions until you make a move.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you want an actual martial art try panantukan, its Filipino boxing.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Dirty fighting means nothing if you don't have good fundamentals to back it up.

You can try an eye gouge but how do you train that on a non compliant partner.

[–]OrgasmicKitkat -1 points0 points  (4 children)

That's why eye gouging is not part of the fundamentals, or Kihon Happo.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

But you didn't emphasise fundamentals you emphasised that it was dirty.

[–]OrgasmicKitkat 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I didn't mention the kyusho or pain spots of the body we learn either, or how we learn to roll or fall, or climb or throw, I tried to be brief. If there's anything else you'd like to know, let me know.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I dont need to mate, how to climb and throw are not skills i would ever bother to learn, its a bullshit martial art.

[–]OrgasmicKitkat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fleeing out of a dangerous situation is just as necessary as knowing how to fight. When the odds are clearly not in your favor it can mean life or death, like in a terrorist shooting. Ninjutsu is about surviving, we don't learn that for nothing.

Sure, you can learn to beat up cocky Chad wannabe, there is a large amount of styles to do that. But punching a guy is not always the case.

[–]CoolyRanks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Throwing shuriken to slice the foe's neck in twain.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Sounds like some naruto shit

[–]Jfc_Manners 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have you SEEN what those Naruto kids can do?

[–]grachuss -2 points-1 points  (19 children)

Who the hell upvoted this bullshit?

[–]MALE_TIME 9 points10 points  (16 children)

I've felt the same way since learning a martial art. Never had to use it, but I just feel more confident in general.

Whats bullshit about it

[–]grachuss 2 points3 points  (15 children)

Ninjitsu and Aikido are both bullshit Martial Arts, or Bullshido if you will. All these styles got exposed in the early days of MMA.

[–]beta_no_mo 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Just because some styles didn't survive in MMA (which is a blend of nearly everything, hence the name) doesn't mean they have zero application in the real world.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yes it does, its bs I tried ninjitsu its just techniques borrowed from jujitsu, judo and aikido.

[–]OrgasmicKitkat 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Those martial arts are all from Japan. It's a small island, so naturally they must have had some influence over each other.

And regarding ninjutsu, if you practiced it then you know it's a blend of like 7 schools, so even more of a chance to get mixed up with the rest.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are no modern ninja which school is it Im guessing bujinkan.

They also all have aliveness no ninjitsu I've ever done is live.

[–]OrgasmicKitkat 4 points5 points  (9 children)

As far as I know you can't attack the eyes or genitalia of your opponent in MMA, nor take advantage of your surroundings like throwing dirt or sand or using a weapon like a chain or a knife.

All of those are real-life factors which MMA doesn't take into account because at the end of the day it's, as most martial arts have become, a sport. And that's OK.

Ninjutsu is focused on survival at any cost, and that works for me. It wasn't meant to be used locked up in a cage where you're going to get your ass kicked and your opponent already knows your intentions anyway.

[–]grachuss 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You could in the early days of MMA. See Joe Son on Youtube.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its just "too deadly for the ring" bull shit, while i agree than MMA is not the be all and end all test of a system, the good thing is its focus on aliveness.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Yes and by relying on eye gouges and genital strikes you escalate the level of violence.

Fail an eye gouge or a groin kick and the guy that was just going to beat you up may be now quite annoyed.

look up bas rutten, "everything you do to me, i can do to you."

[–]OrgasmicKitkat 1 point2 points  (5 children)

And you think I don't know that? That I'd happily go around breaking people's wrists or nuts? That we're not told to assess the situation? We learn how to control an opponent on the ground for a reason, otherwise a broken elbow does the trick just fine.

Besides not every opponent is your average drunk Russian dude at a bar. Being threatened by a thief with a knife or a firearm, getting mugged or being sexually assaulted for females are just as likely where I live, and there's no holding back if the situation turns into a life or death one.

Either you don't take that into account or you're just trolling.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

No im not the one drinking cool aid


Do you have sparring against a resisting opponent ?

[–]OrgasmicKitkat 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Sometimes we resist, yes. Especially if the opponent is moving like the guys in the video to show how you're still in danger.

The Bujinkan is most often practiced slowly and with open moves, yes, but that's not meant for fighting. It's meant to teach and fix certain postures and ways of moving into your brain, and the idea behind them. They are exaggerated on purpose.

Shinken Gata is meant for fighting. But that's the last thing you learn and is often practiced at seminars with highly trained instructors, since it's a ramification or adaptation of the foundations you're supposed to be learning at the dojo.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you spar with gloves on

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)



This is not sparring, no video I can find of shinken gata is fighting.

[–]imadethistoshitpostt 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Lol at this pleb who doesnt study the blade

[–]wisty 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Don't be aggressive, be assertive.

Of course, there's no real difference between aggression and assertiveness, other than aggression being maladaptive (bad) assertion.

Basically, if being pushy to a waiter gets you a free meal, it's assertive. If being pushy to a waiter makes you look like a dick, it's aggression. The US is assertive when it threatens North Korea because it's a winner. North Korea is aggressive when it threatens to US, because it's a loser. There's no real distinction, other than whether or not it works out (and it can be very subjective).

Adaptive (good) use of assertion is what the red pill is mostly about.

[–]mitstifer 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Just like "it's creepy when a ugly guy does it but hot when a alfa does it"

[–]wisty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or "it's creepy when a guy does it in a hamfisted way". Or "it's creepy when a guy does it at the wrong time".

Whatever. That shit's subjective. Just use a bit of common sense, and don't be too over the top with aggression (either sexual or other) and don't be a pussy either - both extremes are really bad.

[–]RealityTastesGreat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Assertive does not speak to penetrating., which is an important aspect of masculinity.

[–]hawkeaglejesus[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree, but it's basically semantics at this point

[–]wataDs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Jordan B Peterson goes on quite a bit about embracing your dark side so that you may familiarize, control, and mete it out when necessary. As you pointed out, knowing and controlling your dark side has it so you dont need to use it. This applies down to the simplest social interaction. If you prop yourself as a rug people will eventually step on you. It takes energy for people not to take advantage of you when you keep yourself on all 4's waiting to be fucked. The path of least resistance applies everywhere, so make the path to wronging you a path of resistance.

[–]WarBoruma 4 points5 points  (33 children)

How should aggression be harnessed properly? I haven't felt aggressive in several months, don't know how to get it back. Could it be depression? Im already on drugs for it. Or low-t? Im 150 points low from my proper age range level.

[–]empty_moshpit 1 points1 points [recovered]

There are very few medical pros on this subreddit, but as a complete layperson I would guess it is low T. Lots of things can cause low T, such as an extremely sedentary lifestyle, being significantly overweight etc.

As an all-around cure I would simply move more, lift more weights, eat healthier (lots of protein and fresh vegetables, very few if any refined carbs) and see how you feel after a few months.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If he's already on medication that's likely underlying.

But this is good advice anyway as a supplement to medication, see how you are in on it, Do not take St johns wart if you are on an SSRI , I've seen it suggested before you'll die.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (26 children)

Get off the depression meds and hop on self prescribed TRT. It will blow your fucking mind.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (24 children)

How about don't do that you idiot you're not a doctor.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (23 children)

I’ve been on depression meds before. Quit them cold turkey and started blasting testosterone. Never felt better in my life. Most doctors are shit heads. If the guy has low t they still might not give it to him. My dad’s test was at the very bottom of normal levels, aka really fucking low. The level he was at there are some docs who would put him on trt in a heartbeat, and others would just say that he’s fine and doesn’t need it. Does he need it? No, he’s not going to fall over and die if he doesn’t get trt. Would it improve virtually every aspect of his life? Probably. A trt dose even on someone with normal test levels is pretty harmless. The rewards greatly outweigh the risks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (22 children)

Which ones and what dosage?. He doesn't need it? Most doctors are shit heads slow clap

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (21 children)

I’ve tried prozac and wellbutrin, don’t remember the dosage. Was over a year ago. I just took however many pills the bottle said to take. For this guy though, a weekly shot of 200mg/test cypionate would do him wonders. A trt dose is much safer and has way more benefits than any ssri. In fact there are many cases where fucked up people get even more fucked up taking antidepressants.

I’ve had 2 doctors tell me creatine will give me cancer. They said powdered whey protein is incredibly taxing on your liver and kidneys. I was told to stop powerlifting because “it is very rough on your heart”. Doctors can stick to what they know best; diagnosing diseases, giving vaccinations, etc. In a doctor’s eyes, if you are not going to die or have some serious health issues without trt they will not prescribe it to you. They are not well educated when it comes to fitness and supplement use.

I had blood work done and my liver enzymes were elevated only a few points above normal. First thing the doctor wanted to do was to cut all supplement use for a month. I did and got tested again, same result. Idiot assumed I had permanent liver damage or some shit. He had never worked with an athlete before so he had no idea that it was actually incredibly normal for my enzymes to be above normal. They don’t learn everything in med school buddy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (20 children)

You don't know he's on an SSRI, fluoxatine is an SSRI,Bupropion is an NDRI.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (19 children)

I just took what the doctor gave me. Because I figured he knew what was best!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (18 children)

When they didn't work did you inform your doctor so you can change it or taper off?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (17 children)

Yes he wanted to up the dose or put me on something else. I said “fuck that shit, these drugs are bad/unnatural. I’ll just deal with the hand I was dealt.” Stopped seeing him and threw away the pills. Never in my life had I been better. A year later and I’ve found the magic of testosterone. Hard to be depressed when you’re constantly thinking about the gym like a kid does Christmas on its Eve.

Antidepressants are a bullshit scam. People become dependent on them just like they do on other drugs like meth and heroin. If you’re depressed, stop being a bitch otherwise you weren’t cut out for this world and should just off yourself anyways.

[–]blackpinkera -1 points0 points  (0 children)

sorry but...username checks out

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What antidepressants are you talking?

[–]WarBoruma 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sertraline. Aka generic zoloft.

[–]wtffellification 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I don't dislike this post. However..

Aggression is what makes the world go round.

This is rubbish. Without empathy contrasting agression, we wouldn't be here

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are going to disagree explain why.

[–]hawkeaglejesus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at how empathy is working out for Sweden and their rape problem. Too much empathy and not enough aggression is the reason they can't protect themselves.

Neville Chamberlain was empathetic with Germany in WWII, and it took some aggressive men to sort that problem out.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes there are things you can solve with aggression, try solving a hard puzzle by being more aggressive, try closing suture by being more aggressive.

The SAS teaches aggressive action, but you need ability and intelligence to back it up, not everything is solved with a hammer.

Tldr be smart and assertive.

[–]freshoutofgravitas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this post addresses two things, the first is something I struggled with in my very early 20's. Learning to trust my anger. I had shitty fake friends, and the wimmenz therein were redneck snobs. when I moved away to a bigger town, my smv benefitted from not having those dumb damned cows undercutting me socially. I had to go monk mode, and change scene, alone, but I also had to recognize my previous behavior allowed low smv females talking sjit and trying to BB me. I fell into carpentry, and lo and behold, that field of work does not tolerate pussies. I learned to apply my aggression in a healthy competition of performance. the other issue OP hits on is assertiveness vs aggression. the distinction being assertiveness sets boundaries and recognizes them in an effective healthy way, where as aggression is seen in people who don't comprehend the boundaries, and rail against them like a howling knave

[–]reddttt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Solving things by being agressive doesn't always help.

Trying to kill a mosquito while he's flying around, using agression would be useful. But if it lands on your balls, would you it slap it with all your agression? Gotta be smart and be assertive.

[–]TheBasedLibertarian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This taps into Ayn Rand’a philosophy of Objectivism a bit. Good post.

[–]Ultimate_Mindset 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand. But how do you learn to use aggression for selfish reasons, for some reason I know how to express agression mostly through violence not for catching chicks. A bussinesman who is aggressively pushing his bussines, taking risks and also being able to flirt agressively. For some reason I dont know how to be aggressive in those areas.

One time I easily defended myself against a bully in the night, no problemo. But when I see a girl I just dont talk to her, if however I am more angry then I go too far in that direction. Any help?

[–]Geopolitics372 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even better, cross the fucking mountain with elephants and an army of 50000.

[–]JcHgvr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take the US for example. You think anyone would dare fuck with us or our allies? We don't have to be in a constant state of aggression as long as the world is aware of our capacity for aggression.

Is that what you guys have been doing pretty much since 2001 ? Not displaying constant aggression ?

[–]Trgnv3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But.. the US is in a constant state of agression

[–]futmut -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What a bunch of shit...No wonder everyone attacks this sub when retards comes out with crap like this..

''To be masculine is to take, be selfish and aggressive.''

After reading this crap you should be banned...fuckin autistic rat.

[–]cretter -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Interesting view of the world. When you're 14.