Rant/VentingSweden at it's best again: Sex now requires active consent (self.TheRedPill)
submitted 1 year ago by [deleted]
[–]wayneinthegame 187 points188 points189 points 1 year ago (9 children)
Whats really sad is contrasting this with that horrific article about the actually rape and torture of a young girl. That's one of the worst crimes imaginable and society should be fully behind stopping and punishing that crime.
They are watering down the definition of rape so much that every time I see the word rape (esp on reddit) I think "yea sure, sounds like regret to me."
[–]youkickmyd0g 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (1 child)
It seems like we should see the word less than once per year. I was going to say day.
[–]FREEDNA 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I just raped that breakfast burrito.
[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 1 year ago (5 children)
Rape used to illicit a horrified reaction from me. Now I question every little thing about it because rape isn't actually rape anymore and there's a huge incentive and no downside for falsely accusing rape.
Brock Turner is a perfect example of this. Constantly plastered as a heinous rapist, but nobody actually even knows he just fingered a girl that he'd been kissing earlier at a party and left with.
[–]Dragon_Garoo 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children)
the #metoo stuff is part of the problem. The other part is lying sluts. Women will spin any yarn to avoid self blame. Once I caught an ex in a total absolute bald faced lie about rape, I started doubting every story I ever heard. Sad. But true.
[–]MAiTAi9 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
How does no one know? He was caught by two males fingering her unconcious body...
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Dude people were calling for him to get the death penalty and shit all over Facebook. You don't do that for that kind of crime.
[–]MAiTAi9 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Ah I see, I thought you were criticizing the issue of consent and how he wasn't actually guilty. I understand how this can be an issue, I just thought someone who was caught in the act was a poor example of "false accusations".
[–]notonlyplace 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The jury also found him not guilty of rape
[–]gELSK 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children)
// , Women who've actually been actual-raped, as in raped-raped, are going to get shafted again, so to speak, if there's any backlash to this #metoo shit.
[–]PhaedrusHunt 273 points274 points275 points 1 year ago (30 children)
Wow, the link about outlawing swedes from fucking hookers in other countries is the ultimate nanny state move. They literally think they own you
[–]cellphon 139 points140 points141 points 1 year ago (20 children)
Next step is outlawing male masturbation. All sex needs to be approved by the state. Masturbation abroad will carry a sentence as well.
[–]PM_ME_UR_TECHNO_GRRL 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Masturbation pacifies the man. That is good for the nanny state.
[–]El_Shakiel 25 points26 points27 points 1 year ago (0 children)
We need an "Orwell Award" 'round here
[–]PhaedrusHunt 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Since the government owns you you'll need to seek continual consent with them. You're going to have to fill out a form before you beat off
[–]Hjalmbere 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (13 children)
They will probably go after porn first.
[–]quazimodo_007 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (11 children)
the state will NEVER go after porn as porn is consensual with contract and is sterilising to the community as a whole
[–]Hjalmbere 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago* (10 children)
The cities of London and Stockholm have banned advertising that is considered ”sexist” or enforcing ”gender stereotypes”.
[–]Blackhawk2479 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (8 children)
The UK has already banned rough sex porn/bdsm
The UK has already banned rough sex porn/bdsm
The UK has done no such thing. There have been laws in place since 2014 restricting the production of certain types of porn within the UK but as consumers in the UK you’re still free to watch whatever you want (not child porn/bestiality obviously).
[–]Hjalmbere 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Maybe I’ve been misinformed then, but what about David Cameron’s Internet porn filter? That’s probably what I was referring to.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (5 children)
As far as I remember that was just a filter that would block websites by default for uk citizens unless you actively opted out of the filter
[–]RedPill_Swinger 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Oh they want to outlaw that too
[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 98 points99 points100 points 1 year ago (4 children)
"Buying sexual services is unacceptable"
"Buying sexual services is unacceptable"
who the fuck made you the boss of anyone, you cuck?
[–]Ddub4 28 points29 points30 points 1 year ago (1 child)
What if I buy her friendship and it just happens to get freaky?
[–]1empatheticapathetic 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Well you'd have to attain their consent first and by doing so you broke the law. Sorry bud.
[–]Hjalmbere 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child)
The cuck male voters. Not only women voted for this assclown.
[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
that's why statism is the most dangerous of all religions
[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 18 points19 points20 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Gotta strengthen that pussy cartel. No outsourcing!
[–]Phixer7 92 points93 points94 points 1 year ago (4 children)
You're gonna need a dashcam for your dick, just to prove she gave consent.
[–]markdumte 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children)
You joke, but you are onto something.
[–]gELSK 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
// , At last, a technical solution!
[–]2Dmva100 244 points245 points246 points 1 year ago (28 children)
Get a custom doormat that says in bigass letters:
'Entering this dwelling is your consent to being fucked in every hole.'
Get one for inside in the mudroom too. That way she can't say she didn't see the first one.
[–]NolanHarlow 102 points103 points104 points 1 year ago (2 children)
‘Uhh, Dave, I don’t want to hang out anymore.’
‘Why not, man?’
‘Ummmm, yea... I’m not going to be able to consent to your doormat...’
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[–]Trooper_1868 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
50% of homo is hoes.. just saying
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[–]JLHumor 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago (2 children)
I like it. Even though I don't live in Sweden, I might get one.
[–]bumblebee_lol 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Now take a few more seconds to think and then don't get it.
[–]JLHumor 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children)
But it would be so fun when parents and family come over.
[–]night_chaser_ 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Get one before the bedroom, bath room, and what ever room you plan to fuck her in.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
She revoked consent after anal.
She was drunk.
She was scared.
She had a dream that you raped her 5 years before you actually existed in the world.
Nice try though.
[–]el_Technico 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
This is a really stupid idea, unless you want to provide photographic proof that she and the mats were next to each other. Without the photo, it's her word vs yours.
[–]ohyeawellyousuck 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (13 children)
How would this stand up in court? If women can say yes, vocally, make the first move, and then accuse of rape and convince a jury and a judge through emotional appeal and well timed tears, I feel like a prosecuting attorney can spin this as a joke and succeed.
Any lawyers in the room? I’m very interested in law and want to study it just to be able to defend myself from frivolous lawsuits. I wanted to be a lawyer for a while until I realized what I wanted out of a law degree (stable job, high income, interesting work) was nearly unattainable in our current society (American). In fact, I was pretty close to pulling the trigger on applying for law school because I figured with good LSAT scores and a 4.0 undergrad GPA in Mechanical Engineering, I would have a decent shot at getting in and finding some scholarship money.
Off topic, back to my original point. Lawyers?
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[–]wayneinthegame 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (8 children)
This is simply not true. The Prosecutor must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. She can say whatever she wants and if her testimony is convincing then the jury might be on her side, but all 12 members of the jury must give a guilty to convict. There must be evidence to convict.
We are privileged to have the legal system that we do.
[–]crabpipe 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
look up 'preponderance of evidence' and where it is applied - reasonable doubt no longer applies
[–][deleted] 1 year ago (4 children)
[–]crabpipe 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
I know from direct experience that you're wrong, at least in Texas. Domestic violence laws across the nation are changing to preponderance of evidence.
[–][deleted] 1 year ago (2 children)
[–]Hatcheling 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The law is for cases where you cannot prove that the person INTENDED to rape. Too many rapists go unconvicted in Sweden because INTENT cannot be proven. Hence the term "negligence".
[–]wayneinthegame 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Not a lawyer, but have studied it a after an unexpected double felony charge. Unlike we see in the court of public opinion where an accusation ruins a man, the law still puts the burden of proof on the Prosecutor. We are still innocent until proven guilty. Prosecution needs actual evidence to convict. The testimony of a victim alone is not enough. In the case of a rape charge there would be need of physical evidence such as a medical examination of the victim combined with evidence that she did not consent such as a test showing she was intoxicated, a text to her friend that you were harassing her, a restraining order, a witness seeing her reject you, etc...
The most common evidence is a confession from the accused, usually to the police during the arrest. The perp might try to defend himself to the police saying "she wanted sex!" Well, that is evidence that sex occurred and a huge win for the Prosecutor. Rule number 1 is never say a single word about your case to the police. Its your 5th amendment right.
[–]el_Technico 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Not going to stand up in court, it's ridiculous
[–]Narcissist456 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
LMFAOOO THIS IS FUCKING GENIUS!
[–]timleif 97 points98 points99 points 1 year ago (17 children)
It's only a matter of time before they'll require written consent per thrust.
[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 51 points52 points53 points 1 year ago (4 children)
And this is of course in the era of 50 shades of grey. Most women wouldn't find that as interesting if it weren't for all this fucking consent nonsense. They want a guy who just goes for it. I literally had a girl tell "don't ask me if I wanna have sex, just flip me over and have sex with me!".
[–]ItsYough123 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children)
And that's why you should never take any of this shit seriously. It makes zero sense and it's not what the vast majority of women find attractive. Women want to be taken. They want you to get it and if they aren't interested they'll let you know very quickly. I've never once asked a women for sex or a kiss, even thinking about doing something like that sends my brain in knots. It's like my brain knows 'bro don't do that shit, you know it won't get you laid. You know it's just going to dry her up like fuck and she'll think you're a virgin idiot' lol.
The only people who will take any of this seriously are the people who are too afraid to approach in the first place, so basically all of this is meaningless. The autists will take this seriously and follow the directions to a tee and then wonder why it's not working lol. All it means is people not getting sex will vent about it and the people who do will continue on as they normally do by not asking for fucking sex lol
[–]FREEDNA 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (4 children)
Every single woman will tell you that "asking to kiss me makes me drier than the Sahara.. I want a real man who just TAKES me"
[–]Hatcheling 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Interesting then, how just how many women are involved in the BDSM community, where express consent and rules and safeguards are central to the acts performed and considered very normal. Funny. Wonder how that works?
[–]AloysiusC 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I hardly ever comment here but this is interesting so:
In BDSM people do much more hardcore things and you just have to have clear rules of engagement and be mature about it or people can get hurt and I don't mean a bruised ego.
To answer your question, the main difference is that BDSM people know that it's ultimately just a game. They use code words and other tricks to make it feel real but generally everyone involved can stop at any time.
In "vanilla" sex, people may do far less severe things but they're still often D/s inclined and, unlike BDSM, they treat it as reality and don't have safe words or they just haven't learned about setting, respecting and enforcing boundaries.
Perhaps the answer is that everyone gets a safe word regardless. That way the boundaries are clear. Exchanging safe words can then also be like a green light that you're interested but now I'm just thinking out loud.
Also, in the BDSM community, everybody tends to expect anyone they meet to have vastly different kinks so it's standard procedure to put these out in the open - in particular the things you don't like. If she only likes being spanked with a yellow striped paddle and everything else is a turnoff then her partner needs to know that and she knows that they need to know it because she will have learned very early in life that she doesn't get what she wants unless she requests it in detail - unlike women in vanilla dating.
[–]Hatcheling 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Well, my (slightly sarcastic) comment might not have conveyed it, but what you're saying is true. People should communicate about sex and laws like this will hopefully make that happen.
It's a shame that people see the success of 50 shades and interpret that as "women wanting x, y or z" when it's fiction. Trendy fiction, that give people room to explore possible kinks in the safety of their own minds. Which is a good thing. But the conclusions people watching it from the outside are a bit ridiculous.
Thank you for your very well articulated response.
[–]FREEDNA 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I am in the BDSM community and it's about trust.. from both master and slave... if that ever is broken.. master finds new slave ... slave finds new master.
Women love the thrill of danger... from the safety of the couch.
[–]mcdouglebutt 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (6 children)
"how bout now.... How bout now.... How bout nowwwwwwwwAaaaaaaawwwwww yeahhhhhhhh how bout now? "
[–]timleif 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (5 children)
"Can I go in now?"
signs consent form
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago (4 children)
Later in Swedish court:
"The victim said okay not yes. Rape!"
[–]timleif 25 points26 points27 points 1 year ago (3 children)
I'm from a third-world country. Therefore I can't know what rape is.
[–]Hatcheling 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Actually, this is the exact type of law that would convict someone claiming ignorance. Negligence being the operative word.
"How was I supposed to know she didn't want it? She didn't say NO?" - Negligence.
"She looked a lot older than 13, so how was I supposed to know she was a minor?" - Negligence
"She didn't fight back?" - Negligence.
[–]timleif 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Akshulllyy, they've already done something like that in Germany.
[–]Hjalmbere 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (4 children)
As a Swede I can honestly say that this is what happens when you let gynocentrism run rampant. Feminized thinking, i.e. feelz before reelz, drives the decision making process. Sweden is beyond fixing and should serve as an example of what not to do.
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[–]le_wolfe 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Get the fuck outta there dude...that ship is sinking soon...if you haven't already
[–]uvavuindeed 85 points86 points87 points 1 year ago (10 children)
You'll need to sign a form to wipe your arse eventually.
I wish I was joking.
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[–]menial_optimist 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
I agree with your overall post, but I believe the one child policy in China has been relaxed in recent times.
[–]TheDevilsAdvokaat 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
It has. Too many people were using it as a source of bribes for too many years.
Rich people could ignore it anyway by paying extra money for each child.
And sneaky people were ignoring it by having unregistered children - who would then grow up legally unable to marry, get a family book, have their own children, buy a house etc.
I'm an Australian married to a Chinese woman, living in China. They came to our house and tried to insist my wife sign a form saying she would have no more children after the first child. I laughed and told them to go away because foreigners could have as many children as they liked. After some argument they left. We never heard about it again. A few years after that and after some horrendous cases of forced abortion that were televised the government canceled it.
[–]menial_optimist 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Thanks for the first hand report.
[–]MarinTaranu 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
It's not really like that in China, it's just a fine and loss of some benefits if you have multiple children. They removed the 2nd child policy also.
[–]kieran9323 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
so you have benefit system even in China. Damn...
[–]MarinTaranu 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Not me, they. From what I read. It is a negative benefit, because they fine you, but they don't force abortion or take the child away or anything like that. Of course, rich Chinese can afford to have children outside the borders of China.
[–]mishasam89 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
People just can not Stop! They always want more, more, more. Especially women.
[–]shamroc34 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
[–]Stephanohehe 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I FUCKING HATE SWEDEN!! PLEASE NUKE US AMERICA!!!!!!!
// , We're big fans of outsour☪ing, as you know.
[–]saibot83 29 points30 points31 points 1 year ago* (8 children)
I'm a low status Swede with massive social anxiety. This is basically the nail in the coffin for me having any sort of sex life in this country in the future. Unless I go gay. I have already had some snafus where women turned on me viciously because they lost respect for me during our relationship. It just feels too risky after this. I think of this as an anti white people breeding law. They do fuck all to solve immigrant rape while importing them by the thousands each year (the vast majority of them are young "virile" men). I guess they wanna speed up the Kalergi plan.
[–]scamper_22 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago* (4 children)
Actually strange story... wife was talking to me about this.
Some woman are starting to see the downsides of all this.
These laws are basically 'killing' any ability for 'good' 'decent guys' to function with women. She was at work and this really good guy offered her a ride to a carpool. She was like 'why' I'll drive myself. He then took her aside and literally said 'I have to give <hot girl> a ride and I don't want to be alone in the car with her'.
My wife was like what the hell, and so she went with. But she was like what's wrong with him. I basically clarified it to her... do you watch the news... you think any decent law-abiding guy is going to take any of these risks anymore? Pussy is not worth it to that level.
Meanwhile, the guys this law is meant to protect from don't give a rats ass. There's still a guy in her office who throws wild parties where everyone gets nude, makes sexual comments to all the girls, and hire strippers as sales agents and fucks them.
But who does the law actually impact... nice guy trying to give a girl a ride is now terrified to be alone with a girl.
[–]gELSK 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
// , This forum needs more of your writing style, @scamper_22.
Do you have a blog, or some other place where you publish what you write?
[–]scamper_22 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
not much trp stuff, but i have a general blog. ill message u
[–]Trooper_1868 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Where do these parties happen? Asking for a friend....
apparently at the guys house :p
[–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Are you Christian? If you are, forsake that cucked religion and embrace the Gods of your ancestors. You will become a man once more.
[–]Nihev 38 points39 points40 points 1 year ago (5 children)
How can a country get this fucked up? Whats wrong with the men in charge? Too much soy?
[–]Hjalmbere 28 points29 points30 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Strong consensus culture + SJW stranglehold on mainstream media and education + shaming and firing critics from their jobs —> feminized thinking —> weak policing, mass immigration —> rape epidemic —> this bullshit
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Emphasis on feminized thinking. 99% of women are feels over reals. Women should never have been allowed to vote, if not for whats happening now then just for the fact that they aren't the ones going to war and dying.
[–]AlexDr0ps 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I don't agree with not allowing women to vote. The beauty of TRP thinking is that 'equality', at least in the real sense of the word not the feminist narrative, can and should exist. If men were to simply swallow the pill and hold their ground instead of becoming beta cucks none of this would be an issue. Literal oppression of women was a real issue in the past. TRP is not inherently sexist. In a perfect world, everyone would have equal rights but would choose to swallow the pill. Probably not realistic, but imo, blantant inequality gives women something to point to and say "See? We are being treated unfairly!" and the beta men swerve to the rescue
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Women were never systematically oppressed, this is a feminist notion that is absolute garbage and holds zero ground upon scrutiny. Both men and women had a raw deal in the past, because guess what? Surviving used to be a lot harder. Women were protected to the death and men died providing for them. Men biologically fucking love women. We love them so much that a lot of us are willing to look like sexual predators to show our love. It's pathetic, but it's a fact of life.
Also, women and men are very different biologically. This means that they inherently cannot be equal. If you want to say "different but equal", then sure. Equal implies we're equally good at all things and that's absolutely not fucking true. Not even a little bit.
You sound like you don't understand some of the most basic core tenets of the redpill. That women and men are radically different and biology is a huge factor in the interactions between men and women. You obviously need to spend a lot more time here until you do.
[–]Whitified 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The fact that there are males who will tolerate this shit is troubling. This means things could still get a lot worst for men everywhere else
[–]PsychopathyRed 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago (5 children)
Sure thing, Swede-cucks. You've already flooded your country with low-IQ inbred savages and your nation is heading towards 1/4 women being raped.
Yes... tell rapists not to rape, that'll do the trick.
I don't want to hear about Sweden again unless I need some really shitty office furniture.
[–]Hjalmbere 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (4 children)
Places like Canada and the UK aren’t that far behind. Even the USA will be in trouble if Trump loses to a democrat in the next election.
So you should be interested because it might be a glimpse into your future unless you’re from Eastern Europe/Russia.
But this is a proposal and not a law yet.
[–]francisco_DANKonia 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
I used to hate religion, but now I am thankful for it everyday it prevents a leftist from obtaining office.
[–]Hjalmbere 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)
Depends on which religion. In Europe there’s an unholy alliance between Muslims and Leftists. Both groups are very prudish. Both hate Israel and capitalism.
[–]TheRealMewt 131 points132 points133 points 1 year ago (16 children)
We'll see how long this lasts when the entire nation is actively converting to Islam.
[–]BlackMwoyo 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (1 child)
If anything this will work well with it.
Nope, Muslims won't stand for it.
[–]RedPill_Swinger 18 points19 points20 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Scandinavian betas! They turned from being the vikings to some shittard betas.
I come from Southern Europe where people are short and prone to going grey, they come from Northern Europe where men are naturally tall and attractive I mean wtf?
They could easily drown in pussy abroad, so is it all their fault? No at all! The government found out that pussy is a commodity and is creating an artificial shortage by either inflating the price of pussy or penalising its exploitation whenever it occurs via non-traditional means like marriage (e.g. a hot guy games a chick and they have consensual sex).
I bet that if you record her saying "yes plough me hard" that will be considered invalid by the courts so consensual sex will be rape on all sides.
We the men should never underestimate chronic mental illnesses like feminism because they can be so pervasive and addictive that will end up poisoning you and fogging your mind so gradually that a normal person doesn't even see it coming.
The only thing that will grant poor beta Sven starfish sex once a year is to commit to fat-ass Agnes who will have power over his entire life and will be pounded by Ahmed the untouchable on a girls Friday night out.
[–]SEOfficial 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (1 child)
He: Hey wanna do something forbidden?
She: YES, what?
He: Have sex without consent!
She: YES DO ME!
He: DAMMIT THIS IS CONSENT
[–]Trooper_1868 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Adventure time becomes fucking Paradox time :)
[–]PM_ME_UR_TECHNO_GRRL 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (0 children)
People leading sexless lives legislating on sex.
[–]lordkrink 35 points36 points37 points 1 year ago (14 children)
Let's see how long this lasts when Chads start having sex exclusevely with prostitutes and force the CC riders to have sex with desperate betas.
[–]PS2Errol 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Unenforceable. How would they even begin to know what Swedes were doing abroad. People will just ignore it.
[–]ShavedApel 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
If your cucked real hard you won't ignore the laws you will obey.
[–]Dojolow 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
How will the sweedish government know if you pay for sex while abroad?
[–]Awesomefusion 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children)
the camera they implant in your forehead
[–]Xogenn 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Well prostitution is illegal in sweden.
[–]lordkrink 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children)
As the late Incels used to say, "IT'S OVER"
[–]MarinTaranu 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Illegal only for the man to approach and pay. Women are all victims, don't you know? /s.
So, do these laws apply to foreign nationals? What if the woman doesn't know about these laws because, maybe, she doesn't speak Swedish?
[–]Luckylancer96 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Do this mean men can sue hookers if he was drunk or sexual equility prevents that?
[–]closetOUfan 18 points19 points20 points 1 year ago (0 children)
That’s how the US Army is currently, if they should choose to capitalize on it. Shit even if you had a signed contract they could still come back the next day and say it was rape.
Can’t wait to get out.
[–]lamigrajr 29 points30 points31 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Unless you're a Muslim immigrant.
[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago* (3 children)
It just needs to crash and burn with a phoenix scenario. Western civilization is and should dissolve so that it can be reborn within new boarders and cultures never forgetting their past.
[–]omega_fat 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
And it will. Soon. Muslims will become majority and change laws to Sharia.
[–]MarinTaranu 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
It is not what will happen. These laws count on the state and police to be applied. No police, no bullshit laws. Form communes and implement your own laws.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This is what I was referring to from both of your answers. There is going to be actual war and every buzzcut feminist is going to find a way to put pigtails in their hair but not this time. There will be selective pressure to remove feminist from the gene pool and new boarders will be within a muslim horde/neo-communist horde.
[–]FREEDNA 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
MGTOW seems better every day
women are just too risky to even talk to now.. lol
[–]BlastCorporation 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Well I guess you can say goodbye to the Swedes as a culture. Better eat your swedish fish while you can, because they will be extinct in the next 100 years if not sooner.
[–]Xbro360 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Sweden is a bad joke and I say this as a Somali
[–]textualintercourse 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Unless you're an immigrant. You can rape any woman you want in Sweden, and just for being an immigrant you'll probably get a fucking government grant.
"His culture didn't know shoving his cock into a 10 year old's vagina is rape. He is the real victim here."
Not only is this not hyperbole, this shit is real.
[–]sonder_one 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Just a couple of years ago, smug leftists were telling us that sexual consent was like wanting tea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8
Now, they need to discard their metaphor, because sometimes women say yes to tea, but then change their minds and are too afraid to say so!
[–]quazimodo_007 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child)
All these feminist laws really favour alpha males!
[–]justshootinblanks 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children)
2 billion for more female police. Follow the money Gents
[–]GreatBeingHuman 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I bet rapists will think, "It's even more illegal to rape now, I have to stop doing it.".
Feminists win again! /s
[–]frosty147 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child)
WTF, now I bet guys are going to start secretly filming out of self-preservation.
[–]AllahHatesFags 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Every Swedish Chad will now have a hidden camera set up in his bedroom like Dennis Reynolds in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
[–]help757575 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Reminds me of an old Dave Chapelle skit he did...."Initial here for anal"
[–]Moneyley 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
assuming this law takes into effect... just wait about 5years til Swedish women start bitching "where have all the real men gone?" "men need to approach more, we wont bite"
[–]yummyluckycharms 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I guess julian assange didnt get the memo and filled out the TPS reports like he was supposed to.
Swedish women must have a mental illness - dont get sex abroad, and dont fuck any local women. And you wonder why swedish men are marrying foreign women in droves.
[–]Haaaj1 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Holy shit I'm literally ashamed of living in this country.
[–]10199 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
suddenly life in Russia is not that bad
[–]inverteduniverse 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Slave contract. Just saying.
[–]IRedEver 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
In reality this law will have Little to no effect. It is motivated as a "normative" law ment to "send a message" to the population. It is also gender neutral, as far as I can see. If one is falsely accused one could simply make a similar claim. I did not consent to her actions. And as we all know, she will never seek your consent. It is nevertheless made in the wake of the metoo phenomena and made for the benefit of women, as I will explain later.
It is an extremely problematic law, since it puts emphasis on verbal consent. Even if body language is mentioned as a form of consent, it is implied as a second grade of consent.
My personal critique of the law can be summarized with 3 points:
It is gynocentric and cements the passive, femenine role, as responsibly is shifted further away from the woman. She no longer carries the responsibly of saying No, and face the consequences of her choice (minimizes potential for harmony, female red-flag).
One could use it to further fuel the "all men are rapists"-propaganda. Once in effect the law will render most people in the populous as rapists. That time you sneaked up on her from behind while she was cooking, started kissing and groping her? Rape. That time she spontaneously decided to give you a BJ in the changing room? Rape. And as we all know, in a world where everyone are rapists, only men will be punished for it.
It feeds the anti-philantropic feminist idea (Marxism) that women are always victims, weak and stupid and must be helped, preferably at the cost of men, and without shouldering more responsibly.
All in all, a perfect way to apply metoo-populism to further cement the "guilty until proven innocent" mentality. Bravo.
[–]ReluctantSlimeball 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
All but encourage Muslims to rape but stop desperate local betas getting sex under any circumstances???
I wish I never read this article.
I’m British but to the Americans blaming this on weak, cucked Swedes stop taking credit for the fact that your country still has some conservatives in media, political and cultural institutions.
We’d all like Fox News and Trump.
Anyway Game was born of necessity and it’s more calculating and cynical brother Red Pill should hopefully spread quicker than ever.
[–]francisco_DANKonia 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Guess what? This won't even be enough. As time goes by, some women will say they were pressured to say yes. Then it will just be if a woman says it is rape then it is rape.
Sweden = Anxious altruism + female collectivism.
[–]EliteVulnerability 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
"make sure her vagina is completely dry" - Hilarious, written consent would kill the vibe, attraction
[–]HellRaisor 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
These laws are just another step of making the ideal SMW map for old women (the one presented by the rational male i think). Trying to stop paid sex inside and outside country (where they dont have control over) in order to narrow down older men chances to get his sexual gratfication from young women and be forced to eneter the bullshit dating pool of the women above 30s. Which is clearly obvious.
Considering they let the Muslims men rape at will, this is basically telling Swedish Masculine Men to move on and move out to more Pro-European pastures like Hungary, Switzerland, Czech, Slovakia, Poland, etc..
[–]AllahHatesFags 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Honestly, at this point Sharia Law would be an improvement for them. Keep importing those Muslims you pathetic cucked Swedes, that's the only way you are going to stop the cult of feminism!
I personally can't wait to see it all come crumbling down and the Muslim patrol rounds up the feminist legbeards and has them beaten and stoned to death in public for refusing to submit to men and the will of Allah.
[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Holy cow. Sweden is beyond cucked. It's unfortunate because Swedish women are known for being beautiful.
[–]BiggerFrenchie 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Countries with negative population growth for 500, Alex.
[–]jonib0ni 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
But what if the woman felt pressured into consenting? That's still rape isn't it?
[–]victor_knight 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (19 children)
The world is suffering from overpopulation. Since science is too dumb to come up with technologies to sustain a growing human population, the state has to resort to legislation and pressure the rest of the world to follow the example. Introduce feminism everywhere + destroy the institution of family (most children are born in wedlock) + destroy religion (which encourages people to reproduce) + frighten the hell out of men and women getting together in any way shape or form = slow population growth.
[–]GrannyDanger 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Every country that is enacting this type of legislation is in negative population growth.
The threat of overpopulation is totally overblown. At least in first world countries, we aren't even close to having a problem.
[–]el_Technico 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
The world is not suffering from overpopulation. The world has enough resources to feed and sustain many more people. The problem is the majority of the resources are stolen and horded by the top 1%. The top 1% push the lie of overpopulation to get people to agree to their agenda of mass killing, which ultimately supports their aims of staying in control. More people alive = harder to control. Less people alive = easier to control.
[–]francisco_DANKonia 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
The same people who blame the 1% are the ones who blame men for everything.
There is no overpopulation, except maybe in Africa where there are not many resources.
Who told you Africa lacks resources?
Africa is a resource rich continent. Certainly richer than Europe by far. Yet a disproportionate amount of their food and resources are denied to their own people who subside on little. If you think about it you will see that the ones who should be rich are poor while the ones who should be poorer are rich.
Nobody is blaming men here. This isn't a gender studies class.
[–]waldo888 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
naw man, the wealth divide if you really think about it is fuckng obscence. And unfortunately it isn't people who have earned it its the third generation of wealthy people who have no connection to wealth in any way. I'm a hard capitalist "no inheritance" no tax on corporations only income. then well see what happens.
[–]victor_knight 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
So they also control science, then.
[–]el_Technico 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Obviously, when 1% is controlling 99%, they have to control every facet of society.
[–]askmrcia 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The world is suffering from overpopulation.
The world is suffering from overpopulation.
Overpopulation can be easily resoved if people live in remote areas as apposed to areas on the coast.
Meaning in the USA; Idaho, Washington (except Seattle), Montana and Wyoming basically have no people out there.
If these corporations move their headquarters out to these places then maybe people will want to move out there too for jobs.
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[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
A person must agree in words or clear actions to sex, otherwise it will be considered rape.
A person must agree in words or clear actions to sex, otherwise it will be considered rape.
Phrased like this it sounds like they're going to imprison most women.
[–]Tamazin_ 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The funny thing is that You have to get a persons agreement when mixing up the sex. Want to lick her? She has to say yes first. Want to swap from licking to fucking? She has to say yes again. Suck on her tits? Has to say yes again.
It works in the opposite direction too, going from touching -> jerking -> kissing -> sucking your dick all requires you to say yes beforhand.
But in the end the law will be useless since it's word against word. Before it was your word vs hers if she had said no or not. Now it's your word vs hers if she said yes or not. Stupid PC politicians.
[–]ISaidThatOnPurpose 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
*goes to sweden
*obtains written consent from HBB
*Sues her for not obtaining written consent from me
*repeats 4,951,500 times
*receives rights to entire country of sweden
[–]Phoenixtorment 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
[–]NeverLace 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Two outcomes of this; It will either change nothing, or a rape-accuse epidemic will occur, and they'll heavily change the law.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Why are they leaving out "with a woman"? We all know this shit doesn't apply to women not getting consent. It's to be used by women against men.
[–]Slut_Slayer9000 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Before long we are going to have to get our plates to sign waivers, holy fuck.
It's so sad it's not even funny anymore. I wonder how is this all going to end.
[–]1raceAround126 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Just two bits.
First, the bit about the girl getting squirted with lighter fluid is absolutely dispicable. Not much shocks me at my age and the amount of horror movies I've seen, but that is absolutely attrocious. I find it far more amazing that people aren't more absolutely fucking insensed about it and doing something constructive about it. That's just utterly terrible.
Second, I have been with two Swedish girls. Both were great in the sack and didn't do this whole consent bullshit. I would say though towards the end of our acquaintences together became quite, how shall we say, unreasonably demanding and not very easily pleased? After I nexted them both (separate times), I had a tonne of texts calling me everything but a child of God.
Point I'm making is, when the people in power make all these stupid legislations and idiotic ideas and put them in womens' heads, what else could they possibly think? I'm not saying women are stupid, at the end of the day men are just as affected by these things. I think we can all say most of us have a very realistic inner fear against rape accusations and some of us have possibly even seen it in real life. The threat of false accusation is very real so men do need to have their guard up. And really it's not womens' fault directly. They have all this nonsense being pushed into their heads, of course they're going to act out.
It's a shame really; the myth of Swedish girls being absolutely gorgeous is very true IMO.
[–]general-heartless 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Well... you have to factor in all the immigrants raping the swedish girls for the past 4 years and it makes sense.
[–]Utterberetacht 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
you cannot even get sex elsewhere
you cannot even get sex elsewhere
If memory serves, Norway already does this. Anyone from Norway correct me if I’m wrong.
[–]_orion 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Next it'll take a notory too and people will have to carry around a log book.
[–]icedupsmackhead 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I thought this was a joke for sure, what a rude shock that was.
Sweden is your girl, if you try to placate her with bullshit bluepill thinking. The demands grow evermore crazy while you become more and more of a "villain", even though you keep providing for her. Nobody wins and there is no limit to the crazyness of her demands. She rather self-destructs than being reduced to being the women of a bluepill guy.
Never make a deal with feminists. They will agree to a compromise and go to step 2 at once. If they manage to shame another deal out of you, welcome to step 3. It never stops and you have nothing to gain here.
[–]Dimone_Freehold 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I'm sure the peaceful "migrants" will ask for active consent while they gang-rape 13 year old girls. Damn this is infuriating. Realistically is there any chance this stuff gets resolved peacefully in Europe.