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Red Pill TheoryA scary truth I am learning about success in both life and with women. (self.TheRedPill)

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It's like now, being called a narcissist, selfish, self-centered, arrogant, and a douchebag aren't insults to me anymore.
It is as if you had to check your morals at the door when you decided at some point that you wanted to live a life of riches. To say "Nice Guys Finish Last" is one thing but to actually see it play out is something completely different. One too many guys on this sub will claim they have read the sidebar or understand the red pill but for a good number, their comments don't line up with what they claim. Everyone claims to be a cold red pilled alpha until you actually put them to the test to find out how many men are just bluffing.
I am finding how so many highly successful men I have crossed paths with have unbelievably high amounts of self-respect for themselves, the kind of self-respect which is irrational confidence and narcissism. The kind of self-respect that breeds a huge ego yet at the same time, makes some beautiful women fall in love with them. It is the kind of self-respect to where when the world is mocking them and telling them they cannot accomplish something, they ignore what the world says and go out to do it.
For most men out there who aren't born with the perfect circumstances (tall, handsome, wealthy family, ideal upbringing, etc.), it is almost as if they had to be irrationally confident and have that massive ego in order to even give themselves a chance at a better life. If they wanted to be rich, people tried to talk them out of it and tell them how they "couldn't do it", often acting from a place of "concern". If they wanted to go for that really hot girl, people told them she was "out of your league" and has way better options than them, but they kept going.
And that's the scary truth I am learning.
If you weren't born for success in life and with women (great looks, rich stable family, nearly perfect upbringing, etc.), society will try desperate to keep you where you are at.
If you were born poor or middle class, society will try its hardest to stop you from being wealthy.
If you were born outside of the physical ideal for a man in regards to looks, society will try its hardest to stop you from maxing out your appearance by calling you vain and telling you how pointless it is because "looks are all genetic".
If you were raised in circumstances that stopped you from doing well with women (or in an area where hotties were rarely found), say you end up being a virgin past the age of 18, society will try its hardest to stop you from being a player hence the witch hunt against places like these.
In reality, no one wants to see the underdog rise, it is scary. No one likes a success story until it has already happened and everyone has realized it is too late to stop it.
They'll even use a moral high ground to stop you.
Don't be rich because all rich people are evil, why obsess over money?
Don't try to be good looking because it makes you vain.
Don't try to go for good looking women because it makes you shallow, shouldn't you judge a woman for something other than her looks?
Don't try to make a lot of friends because it makes you fake.
This is the one that is tough to defend against, when they attempt to attack your character and your morality as a person because they realize it will make you feel guilty for ever wanting to better your situation. Obviously all ugly women have nice personalities and poor people can't actually be evil.
And along the way, a lot of the negative traits society shuns actually become useful.
Becoming self-centered, irrationally confident, and borderline narcissistic is almost mandatory when time and time again people tell you that you will stay poor, stay ugly, and stay loveless. Time and time again, the belief you have of your shit not smelling is the one thing that can get you away from the Crabs in a Bucket. You almost have to have these traits to some degree because you need some way to cope with society beating you down whenever they see you rise above your circumstances. In most cases you almost develop these negative traits because only they help you survive the brutal Crabs In A Bucket nature of society.

[–]mgtowolf 327 points328 points  (83 children)

You don't know the half of it. I have so many people around my age and older telling me how fucked up my life is. I don't live with a woman, I never had any kids, I am fucking up in their eyes in so many ways.

It's absolutely terrible that I can just do what I want when I want. I want to fire up one of my toys right now and ride it all night, I can do it. If I got some time off between major jobs, and want to piss off to russia or something, I hop on that jet.

I own my house, all my vehicles, all my toys, all my tools. The only real debt I have is bullshit taxes. Property tax, vehicle registration etc. I could live of $2000 profit a year, less if I decided to cut down some trees on my land and put the woodstove to use instead of oil heating.

But I have so many concern trolls IRL who like to try and talk me out of it. I should settle down, put half of everything I have on the line to "live the dream". I can't help but laugh, as all these guys are up to their eyeballs in debt, one little emergency and it all goes poof for them.

[–][deleted] 174 points175 points  (12 children)

How dare you be financially stable and free to do what you want when you want? Somewhere there is some slut fucking a loser just hoping you can put on a cape and save her.

Half of all you have now should be hers and you are abusing her by keeping it from her. You should be locked up in prison you fucking sexist. REEEEEEH

[–]RavenLordx 55 points56 points  (11 children)

I know this is a joke but man, there are just so many people thinking like that. It is quite scary.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 33 points34 points  (8 children)

It really is. So many people think it's better to get married, get in debt by buying a bigger than necessary house and get divorced, than to be a guy who is single, living in a nice one bedroom apartment, has the freedom to do what he wants and have a six or seven figure net worth.

I'm 26 and I promise to not fall into the "Keeping up with the Joneses/BP" crap.

[–]LordDongler 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Because if no one were willing to go into debt the world wouldn't function as we know it. Major institutions would fail and there would be a labor shortage as people refuse to work as much as they previous had.

Basically, banks couldn't exist as we know them in the sort of society that we want for ourselves.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Let the other idiots pay for society

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    [–]Actanonverba11 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    And have a chance to get divorce raped (over 50% chance) when she's bored with you. Marriage is a bad deal in this day and age. And the kids aren't yours, they belong to the woman, according to the state. So yeah, surrendering your freedom for that... nah.

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      [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Most of society is like that. It is terrifying.

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        [–]mgtowolf 19 points20 points  (6 children)

        Of course I meant motorcycles, quads, snowmobiles, and my boat. I set myself up for that one I guess, so nice one.

        [–]leviathan51 4 points5 points  (5 children)

        This was the only thing I absolutely despised on your post, for real. Had no idea it means something.. motorized.

        [–]mgtowolf 15 points16 points  (4 children)

        It's a local saying, borderline insulting when you think about it, that boys never give up the toys, they just get more expensive and dangerous toys when you grow into a man. Something like that. Guys rib me about having so many toys, then I rib them them back about them pretending to play with them same toys on their consoles :P

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

        " The only difference between men and boys is the size of their toys."

        Damn right it is. I get to have as many toys as I want.

        There are currently 50 gas chugging cylinders in my garage.

        [–]mgtowolf 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        It kinda bugs me though, like the whole peter pan syndrome. Like to be a "grown up" you have to stop having fun, and instead finance a women to have fun, then her kids to have fun. And you can go crawl in a hole and die alone. Know what I mean? It's like a sidehanded insult, from people who think they are being clever.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        I know it's an attempt to make you feel juvenile.

        So I revel in it.

        My own wife says," Everytime you come back from one of your trips it's like you're a teenager again."

        Exactly!!!! And you know what teenagers have on their minds, right?? Get on your knees.

        "Giggle"

        [–]2Dmva100 47 points48 points  (27 children)

        All the married beta fags at the office and your post wall female relatives want to drag you down into the misery of 'settled down' life to reassure themselves that they made the right choice by doing so, when in fact they are miserable as fuck. They are using you to vicariously seek confirmation bias and validate their own life choices.

        [–]bigfuckingboner 38 points39 points  (26 children)

        For me it's been the opposite(at least with married male friends and coworkers). I am the only person in their 30s that's never married or had kids. They all tell me to keep doing what I'm doing and to never get married.

        [–]RedPilledGodEmperor 11 points12 points  (23 children)

        Yeah, I have a coworker who is married and has two kids that are in daycare. I think he loves his kids, but hates how expensive they are. He told myself and another team member on a night out how expensive just daycare is. I was astounded. I think the figure was $25K or around that per year for two kids. Basically about $12.5K per kid. Think of what you can do with that money.

        I was never really crazy about having kids, but seeing that number didn't convince me that I should have any.

        [–]bigfuckingboner 10 points11 points  (14 children)

        The problem is, part of me does want some type of legacy to pass on. My family is small, and I am really the only option for that. One of my younger brothers died during deployment, another in a freak car accident. On my mother's side, I have a cousin that's lesbian, and another male cousin my age who has zero ability to navigate women. I can afford the financial hit of a kid or two. It's the prospect of a divorce that frightens me. I will not get married without a prenupt to attempt to guard assets, but even that isn't foolproof. Mentally I don't think I could accept getting my shit ruined in a divorce. Another is finding a woman that actually has something of her own to bring to a marriage. Doesn't have to be at my level, but something. So many women are broke as a joke or just getting by. And the few that have a solid path either want to have kids at 40(wtf) or want to settle with a man of even higher status.

        [–]RedPilledGodEmperor 9 points10 points  (5 children)

        Leaving a legacy doesn't mean having kids. Look at the ultra successful guys like Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Elon Musk, etc. Will their legacy be about the companies they have created and the billions they have made? Or will it really be about having kids? Most people will remember someone like Bill Gates for being the founder of one of the biggest tech companies in the world and for the billions he has donated to philanthropic causes.

        Not everyone can become a billionaire, but someone's legacy isn't about how many kids or if they had any. It's about what they accomplished in their life.

        Same as the CEOs executives of companies that are well liked, but not as famous. Or the people who founded charitable organizations that have had a huge impact on the world. Their legacy will be about the type of impact they had on their company and coworkers/people's lives. It's not about kids. Don't let people convince you otherwise.

        I'm not saying that nobody should have kids, but just thinking that having kids will allow you to leave a legacy behind is ignorant. Accomplishments is what allows you to leave a legacy behind. Look at the legacies left behind by pro athletes. People will remember Michael Jordan for being the greatest basketball player ever. Not for the kids he had.

        [–]blobblobz 8 points9 points  (2 children)

        Playing the devil's advocate here but after a lot of reflection, I adamantly want kids and to be involved with their lives. I guess I am choosing MRP eventually

        [–]RedPilledGodEmperor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Nothing wrong with having kids. I’m just saying that you shouldn’t have kids just to leave a “legacy.” The reason should be more about the fact that raising a kid from birth until adult and seeing him succeed, can be part of a fulfilling life. It’s just not the way I want to live my life. I prefer the freedom of having no kids.

        Just know what you are getting into because it’s not something like you can just give up after 5-10 years, in the same way you can decide to live somewhere else, or dress differently. Also make you that you are in a position where you can truly provide for them. I hate when I see people who can’t even afford their own lifestyle (people on welfare), decide to have kids.

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          [–]Compeliminator 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          He would probably be just as well off if not more so financially if the mother would stay at home with the kid and there's no doubt that the kid would be better off.

          [–]mgtowolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          A lot of women I know tell me that daycare costs way more than they make in a year, so it's cheaper to stay home until they get into school. Haven't any clue if it's true, but it wouldn't surprise me any these days.

          [–]450k_crackparty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Ya same I've only had women family and wives of friends tell I should settle down. Never had a dude say that to me. They all envy the freedom. No doubt there is happiness or some sense of completeness in raising children with someone you love but I'm doing just fine living my life on my terms.

          [–]pFlap 11 points12 points  (1 child)

          [–]mgtowolf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Property taxes are pretty decent here, less than 1000 a year. More than that per month if I had the same land and house in say, the tristate area.

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            [–]Dojolow 24 points25 points  (3 children)

            Maybe you should just take the "4 pancakes" out of your username, makes it more fitting.

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              [–]isaiahexe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              He just wants to fuck and tried to cold approach you, man.

              Don't shut him down, you'll kill his erection.

              [–]youkickmyd0g 5 points6 points  (4 children)

              Yea, when I was young and dumb and successful the older guys walked me into all those agreements. Now I'm financially ruined and it doesn't matter, I'll build it back... it's hard to get anywhere with $600/mo of student loans that can't go away, on top of everything else that's stacked up. Fuck. 32 years old, maybe I'll be floating by 40. I had a house and new car at 22. Not saying it's not my fault, I signed all those dotted lines. But god damn it.

              [–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Hey dude. You didn't earn any of that! Probably all that male privilege you enjoy. That's why you live so comfortably! You need to wife up some empowered wimyn and she deserved at least half of everything you have! You have no idea how she has suffered at the hands of the patriarchy you mysoginist shitlord! It's her turn!!! She deserves half that firewood!!!

              .

              /s

              [–]crash11235 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Posts like this help show me the light. The concern trolls (especially family) want so desperately for me to fit into society’s accepted mold, I guess because of how it may reflect on them. Thanks for sharing,

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                [–]mgtowolf 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                Times are changing a lot man. I know people my age, they helped their parents out, by sticking them in some shitty old folks home and visiting them maybe once a year.

                If I need a little help, I could always hire a cute young nurse. If I end up needing a lot of help, I will probably drive one of my motorcycles off a huge cliff.

                [–]BlackCraneStoic 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                Take care of your health to the best of your ability. Even Plato said there's no guarantee that children will take care if you when your old. That's hardly a reason.

                [–]WalterEArmstrong 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                Don't count on having kids who'll take care of you in your old age. Many will just toss a elderly parent into a "nursing home" and loot their assets.

                [–]littlelolagift 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Correct - people are smarter nowadays. You don't create persons life so that you can claim part of it back when you are falling to pieces. The societal expectation of being owed something for your own decision to have a kid should no longer exist.

                [–]KimJongUghhh 3 points4 points  (4 children)

                As a rich old man you can re-contribute back to society in many ways.

                Could be through volunteering, being a mentor / teacher of a craft or funding things that can potentially further a society.

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                  [–]1dongpal 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  well since you save over $1mil just by not having kids you can pay someone to help you with everyday task

                  [–]scottbrio 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                  That should be the least of your worries- unless something unexpected happens, you'll likely only need help when you're +80 and there's group homes for that, or you can pay to have an adult nanny lol

                  What concerns me more is not having a kid to connect with- i'd make a great Dad and love kids, but I don't want to have a kid with the way society is set up currently. Not even a prenup can save you. Like... can I double up on the prenup? Double-bag it? 😂

                  One of my greatest fears is working all my life just to have someone leach off of me and ruin my dreams. I've seen it happen first hand too often to not know it's highly likely to happen to me as well should I go down that road.

                  [–]Sero-Flex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Major props my man. Sounds like you really have your shit together. You’re a credit to the species.

                  [–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  everyone has been fed the lie you have to be unhappy in your life, when really all you have to do IS be happy and you buck the trend

                  [–]newName543456 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  You don't know the half of it. I have so many people around my age and older telling me how fucked up my life is. I don't live with a woman, I never had any kids, I am fucking up in their eyes in so many ways.

                  On Christmas my brother told me he wishes for me to get married and have children "because he doesn't want to be alone in misery of children getting rambunctious". It wasn't 100% serious probably, but still...

                  [–]1GreenPiller 371 points372 points  (49 children)

                  I had a boss who was a good looking millionaire, I worked for him and he always hired young hot girls to work for him also. I always flirted with these girls and some would flirt back, but as soon as he walked into the room all eyes were on him and I became invisible in that moment. It wasn't until a year later that I learned that he fucked every single one of them, I truly felt worthless and powerless.

                  [–]420KUSHBUSH 256 points257 points  (22 children)

                  Risky, that could backfire in so many ways on him

                  Edit: This is just an observation stating the obvious stop psychoanalyzing me, I'd appreciate it

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                    [–]anon35201 138 points139 points  (3 children)

                    If former president Bill Clinton took 420kushbush's advice, he wouldnt have been impeached.

                    Not all people who raise concerns are concern trolls. The highest levels of redpill has some level of concern for things that are self destructive, even if they make the women jump on you.

                    Not giving a shit about other people hurting themselves may be alpha redpill, however its a short jump from there to actively harming others. You will find a lot of these alphas, tough as nails sitting in prison right now. And women love them so much they pay them visits to have sex with them. The fact that convicted felons out on probation get more sex than rich handsome reliable beta males isn't proof that the beta is losing and the alpha winning.

                    [–]qwertyuiop111222 29 points30 points  (1 child)

                    You will find a lot of these alphas, tough as nails sitting in prison right now. And women love them so much they pay them visits to have sex with them. The fact that convicted felons out on probation get more sex than rich handsome reliable beta males isn't proof that the beta is losing and the alpha winning.

                    You just went Yoda-level wise on us! Upvoted.

                    [–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    If former president Bill Clinton took 420kushbush's advice, he wouldnt have been impeached.

                    As it turns out, it didn't hurt him a fucking bit.

                    [–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

                    No cunt is worth sacrificing a highly successful career over. Look at what's going on right now in Hollywood.

                    [–]2CasaDeFranco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    It's wise to not shit where you eat.

                    [–]T_DPsychiatrist 55 points56 points  (19 children)

                    Never let another man's success or failure effect your own self worth. Frame.

                    [–]ohohohoholol 13 points14 points  (18 children)

                    Not my self worth but it gives me this feeling of dread and hate. Jealous almost.

                    I feel like it isn't fair that he's fucking them, or that the hot girl in my class is getting fucked by some dude later.

                    How do I get over that?

                    [–]SMEGMA_CHEESE 11 points12 points  (3 children)

                    I think the only way to get over that is to very clearly step into the shoes of the hot women. The hot girls get constant attention from all types of guys to the point of it being scary just for the chance to get inside the thing she has between her legs. If you jump into her head, you'll see she has a choice to either not think much and just do what the men in power say to get ahead, or she can think hard and use what she has between her legs to make men in power kneel before her. She knows all of this power she was born with, but she also knows she wont be young forever so she wants to make as much life progress as she can before wrinkles appear and before the prettier younger girl comes along and gets all the attention.

                    Hot women always know they can treat themselves as a commodity and oftentimes they do treat themselves that way, but if you can get a clear understanding of how they see themselves and how socially rough it can be to be a hot girl, hopefully that crushing jealousy and 'feeling of defeat' that you feel when you know some dude fucks her can go away. She's just another human being working with her own unique set of traits, gifts, and talents, who she fucks has no basis in your self-worth whatsoever and if she fucks the other dude instead of you, it says nothing about how you are as a person in any way shape or form. She's just using what she's got to get ahead in the same way you use your hard-earned skills to get ahead. So, why worry about it? Let it go and you'll have one less type of mental torture to deal with.

                    [–]greenlittleman 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                    Fucking people on your work or class can backfire to you. And to do that you need to have overall high value inside this little group of people. And again this also can backfire on you, specially if you fuck co-workers. Much easier is to gain skill-set necessary to fuck new girls you meet from cold approach and online. They don't know about your status, so you don't need it to fuck them. And for example in class or on work you need to create high value first impression, if not, then you can't change demonstrating low value in one way or another. If you was timid all the time, then you'll meet resistance when changing your behaviour, moreover if you faking that. If you can fuck new girl each week, then your concerns about class or work would be non-existent. You'll secretly laugh at guys who can fuck only girls they meet in their little social circle.

                    [–]youkickmyd0g 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    You'll secretly laugh at guys who can fuck only girls they meet in their little social circle.

                    Yep. Fat disgusting sloths. Not saying we aren't all at risk of falling there if given the opportunity. But if you're put there before you learn why you must love yourself first, eventually you're gonna fuck up. Since coming into TRP over the last 4ish years, I've abandoned the 'friend' game which meant a long long long dry and isolated spell as I tested my multitude of girl friends and found I was just a beta orbiter to all of them, and left all orbits. As a result, now I can indeed bang randos as well as a guy in my position can hope to. Getting better, but I just see the guys who bang in the money stream as disgusting sweaty Weinstabees. I get the hunger for that disgusting power too when I smell it, not saying I'm above it, but each person can respond to their feelings however they choose if they're of able body and mind.

                    [–]washington_breadstix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I know the feeling, man.

                    From what I can tell though, the whole point of this community is that changing your mindset and habits can help you become that "dude." You're trapping yourself. Work out, eat right and start socializing more. Try NoFap too. It really helped my mood and outlook. Indulge in a constructive hobby like playing an instrument or reading philosophy or learning to code, whatever. Just don't fixate on who the hot girl is fucking.

                    [–]NevrEndr 7 points8 points  (6 children)

                    Lots of FEELS in your verbiage

                    [–]pfffft_comeon 5 points6 points  (4 children)

                    He literally said how do I get over this. You got advice or don't peacock.

                    [–]NevrEndr 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                    It is advice. Although not clearly labeled.

                    Here is some very clear easily digestible advice: Stop giving a fuck

                    [–]pfffft_comeon 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                    "Stop feeling that way" isn't advice man. He should. How should he get to that point

                    [–]austrologi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    The human brain isn't designed to just "not give a fuck" on command. They type of mental discipline is rooted in complex views of ones self and own self worth. For me personally it something that came much later and I don't even do it remotely perfectly just much better relatively to my earlier self.

                    To be constructive I would say don't try to solve your issues with how women view you find the reason why you think you are better than everyone else. If you don't have that then develop it.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Because there's a chance that the girls might be fucking him for his money (to use the example above). At the end of the game, chasing money isn't the end game. Getting fucked for money is like playing a video game with a cheat code. Fun at first, but then boring because there's no challenge, no lessons learned, no growth. It makes the game pointless.

                    [–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (2 children)

                    This sounds odd as fuck.

                    He was a millionaire. No shit women liked him. Weinstein is an ugly fuck who fucked half of hollywood. And you're shocked?

                    Who are you? Are you new here?

                    [–]strikethrough123 103 points104 points  (1 child)

                    They genuinely don't believe you will succeed, because:

                    1. It hasn't been done before by you.

                    2. They don't see themselves accomplishing it.

                    3. They don't want you to be better than them.

                    4. They aren't successful themselves.

                    The only people who want you to be successful are those who are already successful themselves. I've never been shamed by a successful man for striving to be something more, I've only received the opposite. Successful men are generally generous with advice for those who seek it.

                    The only people that have interjected with their negative "advice" without being asked are the ones that are leading mediocre lives with no purpose or goal in sight.

                    Bottom line is, people that think they have a say in how you should steer your life should be ignored.

                    [–]maplemaximus 140 points141 points  (8 children)

                    Remember when you were a child and teased the girls, said they had cooties, and had no emotional feelings for them besides "she's pretty". Back then you had better luck with girl's because as a child you speak how you want to, and due to your limited knowledge, you rarely ever doubted yourself and everything was about you and you were always the best even if no one else thought so.

                    The older you got (teenage years) you start actually noticing shit about yourself and lose the connection you had with your "younger alpha" self and start to act like a pussified bitch because your biology is making you.

                    If you want to get back in touch with a narcissistic and solipsistic view of yourself, remember your childhood, when everything was about you, the video games, and the toys, with no one else mattering, not even the girls.

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                      [–]FractalNerve 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                      I think a 5y old can fall in love as hard as a 14-25y old, except that older people rationalize the feeling into many more habitual and positive feedback loops. So don't disrespect kids for the naivety and their primitive feelings, these pure feelings are less shallow than our grown up ones.

                      [–]1dongpal 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      5y old can fall in love

                      not in girls. action figures, role models, machines, but never girls...

                      [–]Celicni 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                      What do I do if I never had those younger years, always doubted myself, always was prevented by the most beta of fathers from taking any risks whatsoever, and had no friends?

                      [–]maplemaximus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Then the best thing you can do is mentally brainwash yourself. Sit down and tell yourself you can and you are the best. Just because women spin hamsters doesn't mean we can't spin hamsters to our benefit either.

                      A lot of people perform without nervousness because they tell themselves they're good and that they perform well. Through meditation and believing irrationally that you don't need a woman, and that you'll be the best at all you can do, you should be able to take care of a lot of self esteem issues.

                      It sounds simple, but there's no other way but meditation and self hamstering.

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                      [–]1dongpal 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                      holy shit your story describes me perfectly. I hate losing, I hate playing just for fun, fun is when I win. When I stopped doing sports and started playing video games, the mentality didnt change and I played so many hours a day until I became top ranked (5%> of all players) at a big variety of games (SoF2, CsGo, LoL, Starcraft2, Tekken).

                      The point came when I was too old to just play games 24/7 because school ended and I had to choose a career and earn money. Also, being good at video games is useless except you are famous/sponsored/progamer.

                      The goal now is to become as rich as possible, as fast as possible to not be working with other retarded losers in a team and be paid just like the rest of losers who love to waste their time drinking, talking about soccer games and brag how much they puked from the alcohol at weekend, their only free time in the week.

                      I try to use the experience I gained, which was playing at a high level in sports and many video games, and apply the ideas, mindset and work ethic in other aspects of life, like finances.

                      Fuck being average.

                      [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

                      I believe I am the one. I never had good grades: I failed in almost everything throughout my life. My business is not even making money.

                      I've had a lot of problem with motivation. Although I have a science degree, they didn't know I struggled through it.

                      I've had a better job than some of my peers, and people have said that I was smart... But overall throughout my life I always felt weirdly left out by others.

                      But I believe in myself. My business will make money. I will make my dreams come true. I can't say I don't care but I don't care (this scares me sometimes in reflection).

                      I think the price of succumbing to bitches and drugs and other addictions is way worse than my irrational belief in myself; irrational, I don't even understand it.

                      I will make it. I just know it.

                      [–]Shakaconrad 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      How recently did you develop this belief?

                      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Hard to say, but I believe it's after I took my first job.

                      I learned self-reliance: I learned that I can learn anything if I set my mind to it; that if I do the work and use my brain then I can really accomplish anything.

                      And I suppose a lot of stuff happened that made me realize some things about myself and how I worked.

                      [–]Shakaconrad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      "Show me a good loser, and I will show you a loser" - Peter Thiel

                      • Feel free to disagree with me, but there is a very fine line between arrogance and confidence when it comes to the "I am better than everyone else frame". Self delusion is good to an extent, but a lot of people on this sub do not know how to walk the line because:
                      1. They feel entitled with out putting in the work
                      2. Most people's bar are pretty low, so being better than them doesn't say much.

                      [–]AstroBolt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      This is oddly inspiring, and I feel like I’ve been pushed to lose my narcissism. And with this loss I believe my dedication to superiority has failed somewhat. It’s unfortunate that society tries so hard to hold us back. I think it’s necessary to be narcissistic but still have empathy so you know how to at least treat others with respect.

                      [–]MonsterinNL1986 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Nice motivational post. I am gonna do it for my deceased father!

                      I am gonna make him proud!

                      [–]SigmundRoidd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      This'll work if a person has work ethic and relentless drive like you do.

                      The losers will just think they're hot shit without the work put in and get destroyed in the real world.

                      Also realize, you will never be the best at something unless you have a certain degree of very elite talent (genetics, IQ).

                      You're cocky because you put on muscle. Let me introduce you to Larry Wheels, Larry benches 630 lbs at 24 years old. You think you're tough because you box? A prime Mike Tyson can knock your brain into another dimension. You work hard at your 100m? Usain Bolt can jog faster than you can sprint. You "train" mma? Stipe Miocic can put you in a coma in under 60 seconds. You see the pattern here?

                      You can train all you want, but you aren't beating Brock Lesnar, Hershel Walker, Mike Tyson and Bo Jackson genetics at athletics. You aren't beating the full bright scholar from MIT with a 160 IQ and 3 majors graduating early, meanwhile he works on developing an AI in his spare time. There's people out there like this; few and far in between, but they exist.

                      Most people will never be the best, but they'll be DAMN good at something they pursue relentlessly. And that's something to be learned from your story.

                      Have frame but don't be a narcissist (an actual narcissist). Narcissists can't deal with criticism or losing; they crumble. Warriors with frame dust themselves off and get back to work.

                      [–]Andgelyo 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                      That’s because for the most part, society is blue pulled AF. Everyone, especially cunning females, wants to settle with one person, buy a house, raise a family with that white picket fence. A majority of beta men will fall for that trick, while only a select few alpha men will make his own money, not be tied down to one bitch, and do whatever the hell he wants.

                      [–]chesterburger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      Nothing wrong with that goal. The problem is these women also want to control and dominate the house, her husband, and the entire family. Wives turn into judgemental control freaks and blame everyone else for it.

                      [–]NullIsUndefined 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                      "Don't try to go for good looking women because it makes you shallow, shouldn't you judge a woman for something other than her looks?"

                      Honestly, the ugly ones can be pretty damn shallow and prejudice. Think about all the overweight radfems. They also have bad values, blaming all their problems on other people instead of taking some responsibility.

                      [–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (1 child)

                      My entrepreneur professor taught me this. And no, he wasn't just some teacher who spoke book shit but didn't know the real deal. He was an entrepreneur and he only taught cause he enjoys teaching. He showed us the proof. Spends half the week in two states and Flys to Europe regularly for work related stuff.

                      I had to make that clear cause what professors say often don't line up with reality since they never did what they teach.

                      Anyway, his teachings amount to not listening to what anyone says cause humans will default to holding others back. Even folks who think they are helping you. His own mother told him his business venture would fail. He said he hugged her, said he loved her, then ignored her.

                      This is life. And this is why I'm glad I took business as a major. Lots of real world knowledge in that major that applies to life in general. Shit like networking, looking the part, knowing your shit and not letting others take advantage of you. That's business and that is life.

                      Redpill is essentially cold hard truth. No magic is happening here. It's as basic as math.

                      [–][deleted] 192 points193 points  (62 children)

                      I'm 47, wealthy, collect cars and motorcycles as one of my hobbies (just bought my first Aston), in the best shape of my life, been lifting 35 years (5'10, 210, 19 inch bi's, striated delts, 4 pack), spin 3-4 plates and 2 subs on a regular basis, married for 20 years and she accepts I'm nonmonogamist, a Dom, n count way over 150 (stopped counting 10 years ago). I'm 47 and love the fucking shit out of my life. I started as a four eyed low income latchkey chubby geeky kid to a single mom that had me at 17 on the other side of the continent in a different country. I'm on track to retire soon, buy a private island in the Carribean and die a happy old man.

                      Why? I put myself first.

                      Every move I made, I considered why I was making it.

                      Society and it's pacifying morality is a mechanism for keeping you in line. Be a producer for society. For the betterment of mankind. Bow down to the slave mentality of accepting and being grateful for what you have, don't aspire to rise above your station... Blah blah blah. Easy? FUCK NO. How bad do you want it? It's easy to be mediocre.

                      Put your own fucking oxygen mask on first.

                      Fuck EVERYBODY else.

                      You want your own island or a suburban tract home built exactly like tribal sleeve accountant Steve's down the street?

                      How high is your brass ring?

                      Nice post.

                      [–]mattizie 33 points34 points  (16 children)

                      How did you make your money? What do you do?

                      Not a dox attempt, but making money is the one pillar of my life that is lagging behind. I found out too late that there's no money to be made as an engineer, it's not the 80's anymore.

                      [–]SynfulVisions 28 points29 points  (3 children)

                      There's plenty of money to be made as an engineer, but you're not going to "get rich" unless you take the risks and go into business for yourself.

                      [–]EumenesOfEfa 21 points22 points  (1 child)

                      I know too many people in my company that could have done what they do for the company for about four times the pay if they were offering it as an external service or a product.

                      Engineers I met so far in general are very bad in negotiating salaries, or realizing their real worth.

                      [–]Psychocist 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                      Yup. One of the reasons I quit my job and went back to freelancing while I build a software business on the side. No chance am I throwing the best of my ingenuity into someone else's dream.

                      [–]AcrossHallowedGround 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      That really depends on what you mean by rich. If you make 100k a year, single, no kids and you put your money into high yeild savings and investments you could have a shit ton of money by the time you're 40 or 50. Billions? No. Millions? Easily.

                      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                      Been climbing the health care ladder my whole life, now administration.Started investing early in retirement and low risk stocks, and rent houses across the country in nice areas. Minimize expenditures by realizing that the keeping up with the Joneses' only benefits other people.

                      Nothing very exciting.

                      Always be climbing, minimize expenditures, maximize passive income streams. Investing EARLY is one of the best things you can do. Put away 10%. Start tomorrow.

                      Keep your eyes open.

                      Which is redpill distilled...

                      You are a man. The world will try to twist your mind, or twist your arm to accomplish their goals instead of your own.

                      Recognize this is happening, so you can do the things that YOU want to do.

                      [–]Psychocist 5 points6 points  (4 children)

                      He just told you what he does and how he made his money..

                      Why? I put myself first.

                      [–]Nabriales 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                      Why? I put myself first.

                      It's safe to say that the majority of redpillers are already doing this at least to a reasonable degree. It would be interesting if he can tell us further details on how he made his fortune.

                      [–]Psychocist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      Why though? As if those waiting for answers are suddenly going to pull their fingers out because someone has validated a path? The answer is irrelevant.

                      [–]Nabriales 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Of course not. Just out of curiosity and would still be an interesting read.

                      [–]mattizie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      That's all very well and good. But you're not going to make money twiddling your thumbs no matter how much you "put yourself first".

                      I wanted to know what he did for a career.

                      [–]Drumcode-Equals-Life 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Same man, not even close to as much money in engineering as I was lead to believe. Comfortable lifestyle, but I don't settle for mediocre...

                      [–]Dowhatloversdo 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                      What do you mean no money? I mean what kind of salary are you making? I just got a job lined up for $110K + $20K as a software engineer in a high COL area. My gf got the same thing so we'll be dual income no kids. We're definitely going to be millionaires at some point if we don't fuck it up.

                      [–]mattizie 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      Different type of engineering. I studied Mechanical (Aerospace) and worked in automotive (because good luck getting an aerospace engineering job in Australia).

                      Every second person at my old job was an Indian on a working visa. And even then, a lot of our work was being contracted to India, and we had to fix all the shit they broke or fucked up.

                      The other blokes in my team were dead on average financially. A few were still renting with their families at 50. They'd discuss whether they would go on holiday this year, or buy the next nitendstationbox360. This as an accomplished engineer with many years experience.

                      EDIT:

                      As for my salary, it was 50k USD/year. I left after 3 years and no review. My boss' boss makes 200k/year (after 20 years experience or so).

                      [–]JamzeNeu 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                      That's really impressive. What industry do you work in?

                      [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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                        [–]pFlap 6 points7 points  (11 children)

                        Is your wife a manogamist or does she fuck other people too?

                        [–][deleted]  (10 children)

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                          [–]1dongpal 17 points18 points  (9 children)

                          he is loyal with his emotions and she is loyal with sex...

                          [–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (8 children)

                          Exactly.

                          I'm her everything. She belongs to me. She wears her collar 24/7.

                          Three years ago we broke up. Separated. It's how I found this place. Didn't divorce because it'd cost me 7 figures. Got my own life back on track, she came back. I laid it all out, how it was going to be, this is how I live now. Her choice. Be with me and me alone, I'll be your king. But I will continue to Dom and plate other women. Non-negotiable package deal. Take it or leave it.

                          She took it. Share an alpha rather than settle for a beta. She just doesn't want her FB friends to find out. I respect that.

                          Not fair, but my rules.

                          [–]Psychocist 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                          This is exactly the position I aspire to be in.. in fact, the ONLY position I will ever consider in terms of any long-term engagements with women. Better get on the grind!

                          [–]Drumcode-Equals-Life 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                          She just doesn't want her FB friends to find out.

                          This made me laugh, soo typical that a woman cares most about what her friends on social media think

                          [–]kittyclaw200 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                          Hopefully her friends don't convince her that she can take half and not have deal with you.
                          Good luck.

                          [–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          Share an alpha rather than settle for a beta. She just doesn't want her FB friends to find out. I respect that.

                          This. This is the exact psychology. They don't mind sharing. But they do mind social perception.

                          Not fair, but my rules.

                          Perfectly fair. The way nature intended.

                          [–]Dowhatloversdo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                          You're living the fucking dream man.

                          [–]Psychocist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Watch the details. If she leaves it costs him 7 figures. Doesn't sound like the dream to me. Being in this position WITHOUT marriage would be the dream.

                          [–]Ptoss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Man. This is inspirational. You are 47 and happier than you have ever been. It nice to know that I still have a long way to go before I can’t have fun anymore.

                          I’m 25 and just pulling my life together with a solid career. That will allow me to save money to start my own business.

                          [–]Matthew_NZ 2 points3 points  (19 children)

                          Will you still post on TRP when you buy your island?

                          [–]Gr0o0vy 29 points30 points  (18 children)

                          apparently he has tens of alts used to upvote his own shit so, most likely yes

                          this guy has been called out on his BS before, proceed with caution

                          [–][deleted]  (9 children)

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                            [–]KirklandCamber 12 points13 points  (5 children)

                            I don't care how rich, alpha, good looking massive cocked Chad you are. If you are allowed to fuck other women, she will fuck other men. There's no exception to that in the long term.

                            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                            She cheats, she's gone. She knows that.

                            Her choice.

                            You misunderstand AWALT.

                            [–]Mortys_Plumbus 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                            How do you know if she cheats?

                            [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              That's 20+ alts.. get the story straight....

                              via u/vengedbyscorp

                              Almost forgot everyone, infamous reddit troll /u/Triadis3 has his 20+ alts ready to upvote his own comment and is now spamming this thread, be weary! He just commented and is spreading lies that he will make look legitimate by upvoting his own posts, how pathetic can this guy get?

                              I've made crushing this troll my pet project over on askTRP. Hence the vitriol.

                              Mods tend not to tag bullshitters and trolls, so there's that... but with everything, at the end of the day it's an anonymous forum, you get to make up your own mind.

                              But think about this (it's a little meta, don't hurt yourself)... EVERY EC, Vanguard, and mod knows that internet points are bullshit, so there is no need to upvote or maintain alt accounts...especially on this forum. Your baseline fundamental mindset is skewed.

                              [–]1Fyn689 57 points58 points  (2 children)

                              Great post, I was thinking of something similar today:

                              My father has always been a very honest, fighting for justice in the media kind of man, and I mean real justice with common sense, not these new age bullshit stuff. I admire him very much but even though he has had a great career as a journalist and is widely recognized in my country, he does not have much money, because being just requires calling companies out on their bullshit, and then companies won't advertise on your show, etc. So there's that, great morals and sense of justice, but he is 50+ years old without his own roof over his head and fighting survival, month to month.

                              Now I was reading about Diocletian today, a Roman emperor who was originally called Diocles.

                              Bear with me here.

                              He was a Roman cavalry commander for emperor Carus. Carus had two children, Numerian and Carinus. To simplify things, emperor Carus and his son Numerian died.

                              Diocles was then proclaimed emperor by his troops. Carinus, the other son of the former emperor, had however proclaimed himself emperor too.

                              To sort this out they met at the Battle of the Margus. There, Carinus was stabbed and killed by his own men, making Diocletian the only emperor left alive.

                              Now, historians differ about this, but it is thought that the killers of Carinus were bribed by Diocletian before the battle even commenced. The traitors of Carinus who helped in his killing weren't even punished.

                              Diocletian then went off to be emperor for 21 years, and died of presumed old age in his grand palace in modern day Split, Croatia, a city that emerged around the palace itself.

                              So what I'm trying to say is - Diocles bribed men to kill their master, the true heir of the throne, a horrible act on itself, morally and in other ways. He was also a great emperor (unless you were Christian, that is) and he made way for the great Constantine to rise to power, while he enjoyed 20 great years of wealth, power and other affairs. All of this after committing a heinous crime. Also, he killed the man he considered to be the murderer of Numerian with no proof at all.

                              My father - just, fair, a fighter, never doing wrong to others, busting his ass off for his career. He suffers, has not enough money, no roof, etc.

                              Maybe you are thinking, are you comparing your father to an emperor? No, I'm comparing their decisions. One understood that in order to get the things you want, you need to do bad things sometimes and be deaf to external opinions. The other is in denial about that, and is miserable for it.

                              Mine is a very long winded way of saying the same you're saying, but this is what made this realization click for me. You do what you must. Let the sheep talk and be sheep forever. You've got shit to do while they gossip about morality and fairness and other things they don't understand.

                              [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 23 points24 points  (1 child)

                              This is anecdotal reasoning. My father is a really good man, a niche therapist with his own business and many therapists working for him. He's 60+ and has worked hard, and lives comfortably with 3 properties, 6 vehicles, provides amply for his family. He never cheated people to get where he's at.

                              And before y'all criticize therapists, cuz yeah most suck- he works with fucked up kids. The type who are always in and out of the foster care system. The type who were born addicted to opiates or meth cuz their mom was an addict while pregnant. The type who were raped as infants. My dad does important work with the most fucked up and vulnerable in society. His affluence is mostly paid for by the state, which covers costs for these kids.

                              Yeah if you want to go walk the halls of elite power, you probably have to do some fucked up shit. But my dad has provided a fairly affluent life for us and he made it honestly, and also in a just profession.

                              [–]1Fyn689 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                              That's a fair answer, he found a way to do it while helping the most vulnerable and being an honest man, that's the dream really, but it's hard to achieve it.

                              I'm glad for you that you got to have a father like him, there are few like that.

                              [–]BlackCraneStoic 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                              Two quotes:

                              Bitches only suck dudes who are successful. -Joeybada$$

                              You can't have romance without finance.- Eddy Murphy.

                              Women are inherently gold diggers. Everything that pertains to them should really be taken with a grain of salt.

                              [–]ioncehadsexinapool 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                              You have no idea how valuable a post like this is to me. You’re abso-fucking-lutely right. I used to be extremely motivated in my life goals. My depression has gotten worse over the years. I let people get into my head. Friends, family members telling me to not even try. Seriously what the fuck? Fuck all of you guys. The people that are supposed to love me and support me the most? “That’s stupid, that’ll never work. Just get a real job.”

                              Bonding more with a fucking wall of text on trp than immediate family members is a Fucking wake up call if I’ve ever heard of one.

                              This will genuinely help me.

                              [–]dontbethatguynow 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                              I was lucky enough to learn this and embrace it in high school when i read Atlas Shrugged. Selfishness is a virtue.

                              [–]memphisjohn 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                              I take the same world that the op sees and view it from a different lens. In my view, my personal experience, I have discovered again and again that the vast majority of people are brainwashed, un aware and have no idea of the true realities of life.

                              So why the fuck would I ever listen to their opinions on anything?

                              From their point of view, I am irrationally confident. From my point of view, they are idiots and I have no concern about their useless and wrong opinions.

                              See?

                              [–]ChampOfTheFuture 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                              The homeostasis is real, but temporary. Once you become successful with girls and relatively wealthy, that will be just who you are and everyone will accept it.

                              [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                              Being irrationally self confident to the point of absurdity makes everyone like you, not just women.

                              Look at our president. We elected the most self confident and narcissistic dude in our entire country. As far as I can tell, it's because he owns what he says and doesn't back down.

                              [–]Fryguy48 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                              I have a theory. It's not that we are narcissistic or have over inflated egos, it's that having any confidence within yourself (unless fitting a specific mold in society) society has pushed to make people believe that it is "narcissistic " or "egotistical". We as a people are so beaten down that having self-respect has becoming a frightening experience, perhaps we were always beaten down. People hate change, people hate seeing others succeed, and people hate competition. They will do what ever they can to make sure those who are at the bottom stay there. Misery loves company.

                              [–]Rollo_Mayhem3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              I am not sure that people are even aware of what they do. I think that they actually view your behavior as wrong or incorrect rather than come conscious attempt to bring you down. Or they have bitterness and anger because they are losers and they can't understand why. You can sometimes interpret their behavior as an attack or criticism but it's ultimately a defence mechanism where they project or displace onto you. It's best to say to yourself, "he or she's projecting, it has nothing to do with me." Sometimes, it's best to agree and move on...it just really sucks if your friend and family turn out this way...

                              [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

                              If you were born poor or middle class, society will try its hardest to stop you from being wealthy.

                              There are also people who are wealthy or simply more well off than you who HATE seeing people like you rise up.

                              I was raised working class. Single mom. Lived in housing projects til I was 13.. Grew up on macaroni and hotdogs. I got really good grades in community college and got a scholarship and a bunch of grants to go to a prestigious college that's the top in its country for my major.

                              I'm treated like a ghost there. If I mention my personal life a lot of students start to distance themselves from me. I do pretty well in school there too and I notice envy from some of my classmates (even though I put in more work/study more than most of them). All because I'm not from some WASPy connecticut town and go on like 5 international vacations a year.

                              [–]KirklandCamber 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                              Pets are supposed to stay on the floor, not sit on the couch.

                              [–]bigfuckingboner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              I grew up in a working class family. Neither of my parents had a degree. We weren't poor by any means, but certainly didn't have money to throw around either. I left home young to go to school on the other side of the country. Fast forward 15 years and I have well over six figures put away, have my own home, drive fast, impractical cars that are paid for with enough cash left over to do it over again. Yeah, I've been 'selfish' as hell. Every decision I've made in the past was geared towards making my life as enjoyable as possible and secure. Traveled to my 40th country just last month and will keep traveling and screwing. The idea of getting married and settling down became less appealing year after year. Why bother? I don't go a week without sex and it's usually from a pool of 3 women at any one time. A primary, secondary, and a 'satellite'. I rotate one of them out every month or so and it's served me well. No drama or hassle, no big expenses.

                              [–]Heart_of_a_Lion0414 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                              My personal philosophy:

                              You can be an exceptionally moral person and still be completely ruthless when you need to be. People who have a history of disloyalty or not holding true to their word are expendable and you shouldn't think twice about throwing them on a spike when the time comes.

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                              [–]beta_no_mo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                              And now you know why modern organized religion was created.

                              [–]mishasam89 10 points11 points  (6 children)

                              Dude i think your point of view is stellar!

                              However, I don't think you need to be any of these things necessarily. As long as you are determined, confident in your abilities, and not afraid of making enemies/mistakes, I don't think you need anything else.

                              I think becoming "narcissist, selfish, self-centered, arrogant, and a douchebag" is for people who are determined but weaker.

                              Truly strong, determined, and smart people can achieve success w/o being a douchebag..

                              It's just that they are REALLY rare; the traits you mentioned just make it easier to succeed.. lol

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                                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                No. Nice guys finish last. I’ve never known a nice wealthy guy. I’ve known some that pretend to be nice. Maybe you’re thinking of people like that.

                                [–]kubicas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                And this is why you never ask a normie for any advice or opinion. There is no benefit in it and can only make you doubt yourself.

                                [–]Saladino93 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                                I think this is not completely true. Simply if you really believe in yourself you will not listen to others trying to stop you or put you down. You don't have to be arrogant. It is bad and brings nowhere in the long term.

                                I had professors and other people that said that I was not good enough. That tried to put me in a bad mood. I had and I have big dreams. I continued to pursue them and work hard.

                                I come from a poor family. Now, as a consequence of my plans, I am doing a PhD in science in a top 5 University, and I have also side projects.

                                I still have plenty to do, but one thing I can assure you is that when you have success arrogance is your enemy. With other top people arrogance doesn't work. With normal people maybe.

                                Believe in yourself and what you do. Work hard and you will be so focused on yourself that people bad words will not affect you. Only a rod will hurt you lol

                                [–]mainer345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                As optimistic and fairy tale as this sounds, in reality words have a tremendous impact on the human psyche.

                                [–]wcnegotiator 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                                Hi guys, long time observer and grateful for this site. Op, my observation is the beliefs you mention above are hamstringing your success. We all have a 2 million yr old brain that’s wired to primarily do one thing. That’s to keep us safe, to keep us alive. It’s good at that. However, if we don’t take charge of our brain it keeps us from growing, from living life fully. Personally, I come from lower mid class and no college degree. Most would consider me highly successful. 2 nights ago I had dinner with a newer friend. He was drunk years ago, killed a teen driving, spent 11 yrs in prison, and since that time his life did a 180 and he’s made a major impact serving others, has beautiful women including a Russian beauty queen chasing him and though raging with confidence he’s far from the stud looks of Chad this sub often describes.

                                What does he have? Outstanding drive, focus on giving, and Very few limiting beliefs.

                                Speaking about redpill, he shared he introed self to her at a bar with a Simple “is it true Russian women are hottest” and she commented American men don’t usually have any balls to speak with her.

                                Hope this helps.

                                [–]launchswitch 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                This is the only truth in this entire comment section. You have to be confident, intense, have a thirst for life. But you have to be likeable, and concerned about others. They aren't mutually exclusive. Being likeable is how you gain friends in high places, conduct good business, and move up in the world. Its how money is made and promotions are earned.

                                Honestly I thought the "red pill" was about men bettering ourselves, not being dicks. We should ask the question "does this make me a better man?" when we do something. Being self-absorbed WILL get you nowhere.

                                [–]1kick6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                People don’t like to see others better their situation, in any context, because it highlights that it’s possible if you try...and they don’t want to try. Better to believe it’s not possible and be a lazy sack of shit than to put effort into something.

                                [–]Viking_RnP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                Think of it like this. Some dudes obsessed with his oneitis. She's got 3 kids to 3 different dads and he pays all the bills for the 5 of them. Dudes getting no pussy and basically just babysits the womans kids while she rides the cc all weekend every weekend.

                                Would you berate this guy and think you are better than him because of his decisions? It's no different than what people do to you when they judge you on your decisions. You're no different than them accept in the decisions you made over the few years we all live.

                                '

                                Take their "advice" and thank them as equals. I believe the best way to facilitate respect is not through agreement, but through the understanding of one another to a point where you can take one another's advice and genuinely assess yourself by their parameters.

                                You might find some truth in the words you hate to hear from others. Respect comes from that understanding of truth because truth is so hard to communicate with words and often comes out in a way the speaker interprets much differently than the listener.

                                [–]Fearofthedark88 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                Good points. I think about the underdog being held down all the time. Its what attracted me to this sub. Everyone deserves a shot if they are willing to take it. We shouldn’t feel like we are living in feudal Europe.

                                [–]Rollo_Mayhem3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                deserves a shot

                                no one deserves anything, either you take your shot when presented to you for whatever reason or you create "your own" opportunities.

                                [–]U-94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                Everything you're being exposed to daily is someone's (or some group's) propaganda. Whether it's an ad for a sugary sports drink to 'replenish your electrolytes', an animated family movie preaching predictable moral tropes, political jargon on TV/websites making it look like there's an impending WW3....

                                Ignoring everything, living 'selfish' and frugally is the best way to be but it also works against a system built on creating a dumb population of consumers. More people need to get in an airplane, get really high up and look down on the world. Realize everything you know came from some other dumb human who was born a few years before you.

                                [–]Mithra9009 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                In a sense, it's a self-fulling prophecy. After all, if a person pursues money or looks despite being surrounded by people saying otherwise then clearly that person doesn't care about other people's opinions because they're already a sociopath or, for the sake of the goal, they shed their desires to be "moral" and became one.

                                [–]atlantique16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                I was thinking about this thread. The first paragraph talking about hearing insults about being an asshole, douche, etc. I’m in the same boat with people telling me that it just goes through one ear and out the other. Deep down I am a kind and genuine person. I am loving towards my mom and people in general. I know I’m not an asshole... you aren’t either :)

                                [–]VictxrSenpai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                For now, I feel like after you bring self improvement to your life and weep its benefits, you will realize that your far more interesting and complex than most of the females these days that have just relied on their looks to get men's attention.

                                [–]thebestnever_rest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                Becoming self-centered, irrationally confident, and borderline narcissistic is like taking the training wheels that society places upon you off. It has real potential to improve your life, but you need to remain in full control. When people develop Narcissistic Personality Disorder it is a terrible thing, and the line between healthy effective narcissism and the Narcissism that is destructive to yourself and those around you is very thin.

                                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                Becoming self-centered, irrationally confident, and borderline narcissistic is almost mandatory when time and time

                                Good post. And you're right about the above. I alternate going from mostly Zen mode (very chill, acceptance, low stress, happy with what I have) to Michael Jordan mode (insecure, perfectionist, always want to win, will take everything personally and use it to improve) as motivation to work on myself physically.

                                [–]WalterEArmstrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                ".....when they attempt to attack your character and your morality as a person because they realize it will make you feel guilty for ever wanting to better your situation." This is why we NEVER seek the approval of other people or pay heed to their disapproval.

                                [–]Jake_le_Dog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                Sometimes, some people 'mire at you. You think they understand you, so you open up and talk to them about the way you think, your strategies, plans, etc. and instantly you have to realise they don't like hearing about it.

                                The ones mirin' just think you're already there.

                                [–]Xbro360 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                Nobody wants to see you win in life

                                [–]B1k3_Ch41n 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                They don't dissuade you just for the sake of it or even to bring you down, but because it feels irrational and disproportionate when someone not being naturally positioned to attain certain types of success in their lives, aim exactly for that.

                                [–]ArmadyleAster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                You do not have to deny morality in order to live your fulfilling life, you only have to deny that altruism is not the basis for morals, and this is, in fact correct.

                                [–]epicfadeout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                The American Dream, they call it.

                                It's such an ingrained concept and way of life that even Jordan Peterson, of all people, basically insists that you MUST settle down with a wife and kids, or be doomed to an unpleasant life of regret. Pretty sad to hear this stubborn bullshit from such an otherwise great thinker.

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