20 and lost? Advice from an old guy.

DieEinfalt · 2018-01-03T16:12:37+00:00

This guy here knows. We live in the best possible time for a single male.

The internet is the shortcut to life, everybody who disagrees will be left behind. How can you possibly dismiss the vast amount of knowledge and it's instant accessibility. I've gained tremendous value by following the right people. We're standing on shoulders of giants so that we can become mountains.

Jonlife · 2018-01-03T09:48:08+00:00

Seriously, the trending thing among Red pill snd mgtow is "get your money right." That means putting yourself and your goals before women, friends, and even family...which will always be trying to drain you or throw you off course. To those of you who have a loving family that actually helps you grow and prosper, you're lucky. But to the rest of you who who have a fucked up life from day one, an abusive mother or father, or a manipulative girlfriend/wife/sister/brother... Cut them out of your life. Get far and away from them.

Those toxic family members are not there to help you. They simply had lots of sex, pregnant, and had, but that doesn't mean they know how to raise a child in a healthy environment. A lot of people are torn about this thinking that they need to keep them around simply because you came out of their vagina or were created from their sperm.

Understand there are people who are there to help you or who want to take advantage of you by constantly making you feel guilty. The more money you make the harder this will be to discern.

Right now I've cut out anyone in my life who tries to criticize my previous life decisions. It's mainly family members who can't get over the fact that I've grown up and not the same person I was when I was in my teens or twenties. It's even previous co workers who were above me at the time and who think they'll always still be above me even though I've moved on to another position from a different company.

Respect is earned, not given. Whether dealing with family or co-workers, never forget that. Respect is earned. And your reputation is everything. If and when you make mistakes (and you will), own up to them and take ownership of your fuck up. You may even get fired but know when to take responsibility. That builds character and you may be hated for a while by your friends or co-workers, but none of them will be able to say you're not a man of your word.

People will hate you. Be prepared to have haters. Whether it's women who didn't get to tie you down, or your own family members. People get envious for the strangest reasons, and most of them will never let you know. This is beyond your control but that doesn't mean you shouldn't plan for it. Always have a plan on what to do if and when you get singled out to be the the scapegoat. We're currently seeing this sort of thing with men and this #MeToo campaign where anyone you fucked in your past can come forward 20 years later and claim you raped or harassed them.

Which leads me to my next point... Don't flaunt your success by trying to buy all this junk you don't need. All these men getting accused were in powerful positions and most of it is a cash grab for these women who want a piece of what the man has accumulated over time. Fucking a woman who works with you can now bite you in the ass twenty years later. Don't shit where you eat and def don't get any of these dumb cunts pregnant...or prepare to give half of what you earn for the next, 18 years of your life.

MattyAnon · 2018-01-03T13:30:23+00:00

start saving. ... Compound interest means the sooner you start saving, the sooner you'll be a millionaire. 10% of your income. You won't miss it.

You (yes you, reader) should always have a minimum of 3 months money saved up. Enough that you can walk out of your job and you have 3 months to find another. You wouldn't believe how much of a stress relief this is. This will help your job - you can focus on being awesome at your career rather than being concerned about your job in the short term.

Compound interest is just not as applicable as it was 30 years ago. You currently get something like 1% above inflation. This means your $1000 invested now is only worth $1500 after 40 years. The markets have changed, the return on risk-free cash investment just isn't there any more.

What you (yes you) can always do is invest in yourself and in your life and in your career. Always do an awesome job at work, save hard (so you have options!), and spend some of your spare time actively working on something bigger and better. Use your main job to cover your expenses, do riskier things in your spare time.

Invest your cash in increasing your networking, schmoozing people who can benefit you later, getting reliable/easy transport, living somewhere that benefits you and your lifestyle, or buying the tools you need to do better in life (eg studying, decent computer, decent phone, whatever is needed for what you want to do). The return on this investment can (if you're even a little wise) is vastly more than 1% per year because you are using cash to multiply up the income you get from the work you will do anyway.

If I had one piece of advice that I would share from my life, career/moneywise it would be this: go for more interviews. Try hard to get the next level up in your career. You can do 4 interviews a year at negligible cost to yourself. With 1:8 success rate that means a new job (and pay raise!) every 2 years.

Yet people don't do this, waiting for a meagre promotion, only leaving when their job is untenable. This doesn't apply to you, dear RP reader, because your ego doesn't prevent you trying, and you have 3 months salary saved up so you can easily afford to relocate. Get to it, if you haven't already.

How bad do you want the life you want?

The critical thing here is self belief. More people would work at more things if they believed there is a payoff.

Two things you can do here that help:

First, save up enough that you only need to win on average. This means you don't need every ebay purchase to be delivered, you don't need every date to work out, you're never worried about your last fucking dollar.
Second: start doing things you CAN do. Do more of this and learn that you can do things and they will work. Do the big stuff if you can. If not, do the small stuff. Build the life you want. If not, build yourself to the point where you can.

M23W0OH7FV2t · 2018-01-03T07:53:37+00:00

It's a true shame there is no standard education about becoming a financially secure adult all through school - should be a HS course like math.

If you believe that schools are designed to produce well-behaved slaves to authority, it makes sense why this isn't the case.

Additionally, I would add -- learn. And don't stop. Read Karl Marx, Adam Smith and Ayn Rand, for understanding. Read Shakespeare, read Dosteyevsky, read the sidebar, but dont stop there. Never stop learning -- it's what keeps your conversations fresh. Join Toastmasters, learn how to speak properly.

If you're a minority, don't use it as a crutch, we are all minorities in some form or another. Remember that the ideal man (Chad, if I'm not mistaken, in these parts) doesn't exist, the ideal man to one woman may be 5'4 (like me) or 6'3 (like my brother) -- we both get enough pussy. It's all in how you carry yourself.

Onto lifting, lifting will strengthen your core so that you can convey confidence. Remember, the world isn't about reality, it's about showmanship. So, get out there, lie, cheat and steal, the ends do justify the means, for in the end, we're all dead.

Sookschool · 2018-01-03T07:52:25+00:00

Does this work for 27 year olds?

[deleted] · 2018-01-04T12:45:46+00:00

“Get your career and finances sorted out”

I cannot emphasise this point enough. Unfortunately members conflate wealth and power with BB. You can be Alpha Bucks, OP is and I am, it is the easiest path to freedom and happiness. David Lee Roth said “money cannot buy you happiness but it can buy you a boat big enough to sail right up next to it”. Sort out your mission/ money with at least as much diligence as you put into lifting and chasing pussy. It is on the sidebar and in the commandments of poon- make your mission your priority. Follow your mission and the bitches will follow you.

ultrasuperthrowaway · 2018-01-03T13:44:18+00:00

How long have you been at TRP your account age is only 1 year so I'm curious if it's been longer than that. Thank you for the post! My question is part of my due diligence.

[deleted] · 2018-01-03T18:16:23+00:00

10% of your income. You won't miss it.

It's really incredible that people can't do this. Incomes have been rising for centuries (recently rising inequality blah blah blah, I know. The point still stands though), yet most people still can't save 10% of their money and they use only a fraction on actual necessities of life. It's not like they are medieval farmers literally consuming 90% of what they produce to stay alive.

I was thinking about why this is easy for some people and difficult for others, and I realized that it really has nothing to do with budgeting or planning. I've never had a budget in my entire life. It's more a matter of who how materialistic and consumerist you are. I don't have to budget because I have no desire to spend every dollar that comes in. It of course wouldn't hurt me to budget, but I'm not going to buy a new car when I get a raise or get a big screen TV when I get my tax refund because I just don't give a fuck.

StethoscopicBarbell · 2018-01-03T11:53:16+00:00

I’m a doctor. I work 96 hours a week. One square meal a day and 6 hours of sleep are luxuries for me. I don’t think anyone can beat that in terms of “lost”ness.

ashleyshafer27 · 2018-01-03T08:35:00+00:00

I have disposable income right now to start saving on top of my 401k. Where should I put it to make it multiply the fastest?

dustyneedles · 2018-01-03T16:34:16+00:00

if my post is considered ‘mudslinging’, perhaps some are too sensitive. i don’t, and probably won’t, see the connection between marxism and blue-pill men. it was my intention to point out that there have always been alphas and betas, and either can appear anywhere on any spectrum. politics ultimately means very little. it’s about individual composure.

Satou4 · 2018-01-03T19:05:07+00:00

I've tried to stop reading so many comments. Some of the top replies (and replies to replies) just reminded me how much bs there is here. Pareto indeed.

cafeitalia · 2018-01-03T14:34:40+00:00

If your endgoal is pussy you already lost to the pussy. Real man doesn't make the pussy the goal, pussy makes real man her goal. That is what you should never forget.

AircraftWelder · 2018-01-03T14:36:42+00:00

Can’t stress the importance of financial freedom and the options it gives enough. For anyone who isn’t sure where to start, download Personal Capital or some other financial tracker and get your shit consolidated and where you can see it. Beats the hell out of having to log into 10+ accounts to keep track of everything. After that, figure out where you’re wasting money. For me it was eating out. Start meal prepping (eating healthier and saving money). Suddenly saving 200-500 dollars a month that you didn’t even know you had adds up quick.

Fitness/Finance are the two biggest things I see young men struggling with, and I’ve made incredible strides over the last 2 years. Lifting (Thanks GLO) and tracking my net worth has improved my quality of life 100x over.

Cross_De_Lena · 2018-01-03T15:21:17+00:00

I'm always happy when someone older and successful writes post here. It means I'm on the right track .

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mnhoops · 2018-01-03T16:10:05+00:00

Opinions are common, everybody has one and you never need to defend an opinion. Knowledge, you need to work for that, and you will need to defend your base. Few have knowledge.

Well said. I'd sub wisdom for knowledge. Knowledge is something that can be "Googled" while wisdom must be earned.

le_wolfe · 2018-01-03T17:41:50+00:00

If you want to change your life, change what's important to you

That's a dang good guide to this sub that comes with a dang good illustration along with it.

Skjellnir · 2018-01-03T19:11:46+00:00

Thank you for your words, old man. In all honesty.

IlluminatedElf · 2018-01-04T08:16:09+00:00

I'm in my twenties and a female, but I find this post really useful for every person that intends to follow the RP way of life.

lauris652 · 2018-01-03T16:14:06+00:00

Reaaaaaaaaad booooksssss. About japanese/chinese wisdom, about ancient Greece and works of their philosophers, about setting goals, Tony Robbins, Napoleon Hill, Sun Tzi, Laozi, about financial independence, Og Mandino, about health, about human body, about your hobbies, read literature, Omar Al Khayyam, Dalai Lama, about travelling. After you get into reading 50 pages after showering in the morning and 50 pages before going to bed your body will produce endorphins because your body knows that you are going the right way. And after not reading in the morning you will feel like you are missing something, like you still have some task to do. Make a goodreads.com account. Spend some money for books every month. Have your own library. Whenever i feel miserable or am in a bad mood i read another 50 pages.

Just my two cents. And hope this helps you guys. Love yall

Mescalean · 2018-01-03T14:45:41+00:00

Younger man here, hope you see this, quick question. Firm believer in the lifting. My father instilled this in me to boost confidence and told me to not "waste my genetics".

So at 26 ive built a decent base. DB pressing 100's for reps power cleaning body weight and dips with added 45-70lbs of weight.

One thing I'm realizing about life right now is yeah, having muscle is nice. Bitches like it. Its programmed into their brains. But "financial security" is programmed in there too. Im noticing other people surpassing me "fortune" wise. I come from a wealthy family but fuck depending in some trust fund or shit, was raised to and take care of myself fully.

My question to get to the point. Was there ever a point where you "quit" lifting for a while or doing so seriously, maybe keeping it to body weight bs and running to help save up like you say to?

Admittedly for someone who is 6'1" 205 i eat a lot to maintain what I can. Grocery bull aint cheap.

Nocryingok · 2018-01-04T00:29:13+00:00

What if I don't crave anything too much? After 2 years of TRP, I have enough girls, decent physique, good game, sufficient cash. But it feels terrible not to be improving anymore. Just quit my last job because it had no meaning to me. Can't find a new passion.

GustaveLeBonBon · 2018-01-05T04:48:46+00:00

I turn 20 tomorrow and needed this wake up call, thanks.

icecat763 · 2018-01-29T20:20:58+00:00

I will find you, beat you down with a metal pipe then stomp on your head before I leave

king_of_red_alphas · 2018-01-04T04:40:28+00:00

You skipped brain day.

We should not (nor should anybody) gloss over the importance of SELF knowledge and by that I mean assessing and owning your own emotional and temperamental make up.

No, not advertising or whining about them, but recognizing them and working to heal any wounds (if any) that may be causing you to seek false sources of happiness.

If you're on TRP, you've almost certainly got some anger, resentment or pain related to women.

I'm saying this not because I see it in other posters on TRP (though I do) but because I see it in myself. That's what led me here, and I highly doubt I'm the only one.

Despite the recognition on TRP that validation seeking is a destructive behavior, it's usually in the context of it just being wrong for strategic reasons.

The real danger issue with validation seeking is that it's indicative of a deeper issue (filling a void) that will manifest itself in other ways even once you start "spinning plates”

In many or most cases in your 20's you will start to act out subconsciously from past wounds.

Some past wrong. Being cheated on, being lied to, being ostracized by some group, being bullied, etc can lead you to make all kinds of decisions that can seem to make you 'stronger‘ but can actually fuck your life up if not confronted properly.

If you are young, and you have those lingering issues, you should reckon with those things BEFORE you make huge decisions about relationships and to some extent your career.

Meditation is probably the most productive way to do this, but so is remembering to actually connect with people.

Whether it's in a gym, church, book club or fucking fight club, it's important to know yourself.

Stay humble, because life WILL humble you.

Knowledge and intelligence is not the same thing as wisdom and experience.

unsureDummy · 2018-01-03T11:17:24+00:00

Does this work in India? /s

dustyneedles · 2018-01-03T10:13:04+00:00

i didn’t defend anything, just looking for an explanation.

blaming the blue pill on marxism is absurd. so absurd, you can’t elaborate. you only offer more ridiculous statements.

adam, the original man, was a blue-balled beta, taking that apple from eve when he knew that he shouldn’t.

fidel castro was the ultimate unstoppable alpha. the biggest badass this hemisphere ever produced. and he banged so many chicks he made wilt chamberlain look like steve urkel.

and there’s donald trump. we all know where he falls on the political spectrum. and have you ever seen a man repeatedly act so insecure?

Grand_Funk_RXR · 2018-01-03T11:53:35+00:00

be yourself, get a gym membership dont get high all the time.

figure out how cars, motorcycles and basic home maintenance.

work in construction building high rises, the corporate world sucks. but if you must, learn all about servers or IT security.

I'd say travel around the US guerilla style, but that's some pretty insane shit if you dont know what your doing.

Dont trust anyone.

victor_knight · 2018-01-03T08:18:18+00:00

If you are here and willing to do the work, you'll be drowning in pussy.

If that's all you're after or what you're mainly after, consider hiring prostitutes. Go for the higher end escorts if you're scared to death of STDs. You'll spare yourself a whole lot of drama, and believe it or not, time and money too. Plus the chicks tend to be hotter and know how to please. Nobody gives a shit if you went on 4 dates, spent $500 and wasted 10 man-hours to bed a '6'.

jm51 · 2018-01-03T14:14:02+00:00

I'm an old guy that isn't wealthy and have basically coasted through life. Wasn't that bad actually but I'm a boomer and the dice were loaded in our favour.

Most men would like to start a family at some time. If I were a 20 yo now but keeping what I already know, I'd be looking for a wife now. Immediately.

I'd be looking to add nuclear family parents to my social network and seek opportunities to meet many such parents. If the parents I got friendlier with happen to have a young daughter or two, that's not a coincidence. No pervo shit here, it's the parents I'd be vetting.

The ideal age for a bride is 22 to 26. If I marry at say 33, then my bride is currently between 9 and 13 years old. If I'm a lot slower than expected in ensuring my financial future, my future bride might not even be born yet. Plenty of talk with the parents about marriage in general with the WIT present and she will get a good idea of what is expected of her when she is married to whoever.

If I do it right, then when I'm coming up to the age of 30, there will be a constant supply of 2 or 3 WITs a year coming into bloom. No matter how hot they look, there would be zero game and zero kino from me, just a genuine interest in their life. I wouldn't do anything in private with her that I wouldn't do in front of her parents. Genuine good guy with honorable intentions, where's the harm in that? If I feel lusty, I'll game bar sluts.

When I've got twice the shit I need to be financially secure (divorce can happen to the best of us) then one of the maturing WITs has the honour of becoming my virgin bride.

[deleted] · 2018-01-03T19:10:27+00:00

Quick noob question, what is MRP?

merlestreep · 2018-01-03T13:04:49+00:00

"I'm old, wealthy and have a lot of kinky sex." Super douche....