Rant/VentingSwallowing the pill with kids? RP aware already but never had it done? Get a genetic test today! (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by chuckthundercock

I really can't believe it's not sidebar material, but once your eyes start to open and you start to understand the reality of women, its imperative if you have kids that you get genetic testing done for you and your kids.

You can guise it under "health-related benefits" that even the most sophisticated hamster will struggle to maneuver around that argument. For the low price of around 99.99 per person, there are a litany of ancestry or health-related spittoon based services that you can sign you and "your kids" up for.

When me, the two kids, and Mrs Thundercock signed up, she even noted, "Fuck, I hope I didn't do something stupid while I'm drunk or I'm fucked." and she's pretty RP aware as far as womyn go.

Fortunately, all my kids are 99.99 percent mine, for the rest of you, if I was a gambling man, 10-15%, probably not necessarily the case.

A close friend of mine got 23 and me testing directly for nothing but health-related benes only to realize that his son was not his son.

She was resistant and after the tests came back, and they RE TESTED, Wife came clean about a drunken night out while overseas in Spain with some random alpha Spaniard.

Chump took it all in stride. Its not public, and he confided in me. "I raised him, he's my son, blah blah... " for the rest of you animals, I can imagine a series of different outcomes. Even if you agree with my buddy, knowledge is power.

Note here : Any show of resistance on the part of your SO means she's at least fucked other men while you were together.

Be forewarned, these truths are tough, but this community isn't about feeling good or sugar coating.

[–]StillHigh09 269 points270 points  (38 children)

I wonder what would happen if all the men who got cheated into raising not their children did paternity tests and then started a giant shitstorm like #metoo? Im afraid I already know the anwser. Its fucked up.

[–]montrev 56 points57 points  (20 children)

I bet it happens soon. this dna testing has been around for a while but is just now getting super prevalent.

[–]GoblinSupply 142 points143 points  (19 children)

It will be illegal without the mothers consent just you wait.

[–]montrev 77 points78 points  (8 children)

yep but legal even if without a fathers consent

[–]GoblinSupply 30 points31 points  (7 children)

Yeah - your government wants you to pay for that child.

[–]montrev 32 points33 points  (6 children)

govt wants more kids to grow into adults to fight in their wars. who cares who the father is. similar to how catholic church is against abortions because they want more kids to grow up and tithe ten percent of their income to them. They have their cold hard motives. I have mine, trying to save money and not raise cuck kids.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (5 children)

govt wants low iq mixed race slaves to work for min wage.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Already the case in France.

[–]HiggsBooze 12 points13 points  (4 children)

It's a bit more complicated - prospective fathers, regardless of marital status, have NARROW window of opportunity to demand paternity test; after the therm is gone it can only be done with mother's consent or with court order; what's repulsive is that carrying out secret paternity testing can earn you one year in prison and a €15,000 fine.

[–]GoblinSupply 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Basically you get fukt by your government for offspring not yours.

This is horse shit. We need to prevent this ridiculous Liberalism from spreading!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is one of the most insane things I've ever heard in my life. How can you be required by law to pay child support yet aren't allowed to do a simple test to determine paternity?

You're also jailed if you do it in secret! The gender wars truly are upon us.

[–]juliusstreicher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is horse shit. We need to prevent this ridiculous Liberalism from spreading!

AND, root it out and destroy it where it exists!

[–]hugaddiction 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I thought it was illegal without maternal consent. I was under the impression I could not just randomly swab my child without telling her and send it in. Am I wrong?

[–]BigLebowskiBot 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole.

[–]NapalmSunshine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You would have to have some form of custody or there be no custody order and your name listed on the birth certificate.

[–]thefisherman1961 36 points37 points  (2 children)

It won’t happen though because that’s something no man really wants to admit to. Conversely, Women love going on social media admitting to being sexually harassed because it gives them an opportunity to get validation and attention, and also to say that men find her so irresistibly attractive that they can’t control themselves around her.

[–]NapalmSunshine 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This is so true that it’s disgusting.

[–]soulcatcher357 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It wouldn't matter to a judge you would still pay child support.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Paternity tests are illegal in France which is really FUCKED up.

[–]rigbed 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Most of the cucked men would realize that their genes are shit

[–]Moneyley 7 points8 points  (2 children)

they'll get results as follows: You are 99.95% soyboy...CONFIRMED

[–]NapalmSunshine 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I wish so bad this would happen.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They would be considered sexist deadbeats en masse.

[–]iplayhearts 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There would just be more entitlement as a response about how the patriarchal oppression caused them to commit infidelity.

[–]neyoriquans 46 points47 points  (2 children)

In France I believe it’s illegal for fathers to seek paternity tests for their children. Sigh

[–]Garconanokin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Coming soon to the US? I hope not

[–]Arabian_Wolf 40 points41 points  (11 children)

I read somewhere that even in most traditional societies around the world cucking is averaging %5 give or take.

[–]montrev 11 points12 points  (8 children)

yeah they may have their traditions but that get's overrided by the carousel stuck in women's dna.

[–]Arabian_Wolf 8 points9 points  (7 children)


Only acceptable and safe access for a pussy in traditional societies is marriage and even that is getting overridden.

[–]montrev 9 points10 points  (6 children)

that would be fine and ok if there is no cucking going on. a big IF tho.

[–]Arabian_Wolf 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Globalization, with subtle feminism, hand-in hand, are killing the traditional lifestyle slowly but surely.

[–]montrev 3 points4 points  (4 children)

what came first chicken or egg? globalism or dna hardwired in women's brains to cuck? Not sure, doesn't matter, either way AWALT so we have to be wary.

[–]Arabian_Wolf 4 points5 points  (1 child)


Traditions didn’t kill the women reproductive nature, just suppressed it and channeled it in a more productive way through monogamy and shaming hypergamy.

I’m getting married in a year or two mainly to have offspring and raise them in a healthy atmosphere, gotta learn more about women and the history of how the family structure started.

[–]p3n1x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

raise them in a healthy atmosphere,

This right here is the largest pile of Hamster shit going around. This is a synthetic justification for the action. There is zero proof that "marriage" backed and based by a religion provides anything for the "healthy raising" of children. Mother and Father being around is the only prevailing variable.

just suppressed it

Again, unproven. Tyranically forced behavior based on guilt usually creates taboo behavior.

Women are far less likely to slip when they are "happy". This requires that the male doesn't turn into a comfortable, agreeable pile of pussy that can only offer vanilla sex during the relationship.

Bloops, burn those fucking cargo shorts and new balance shoes, throw your favorite ball cap in for good measure.

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

globalism or dna hardwired in women's brains to cuck?

You are aware that the "cuck" behavior is not a modern issue?

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Had an old timer tell me, "you know what game small towns play?... Whose the daddy of the children."

[–]Arabian_Wolf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That’s scary you know, especially if they look alike and look like daddy.

[–]unknowntruth5785 1 points1 points [recovered]

My ex came back to me about a month after she moved out and told me she was pregnant i got drunk and told her I was going to test the baby she decided not to keep it thank god for my drunk self and realizing she just wanted my salary

[–]antariusz 68 points69 points  (33 children)

I had a similar thing happen with an ex when I was first discovering the red pill a few years back.

I actually paid for her abortion. While I would like to have children of my own. I’m 50% certain it wouldn’t have been mine.

[–][deleted] 82 points83 points  (29 children)


Michelle: Wow Amy, how can you afford that Prada bag?

Amy: I just told /u/antariusz, Todd, Joe, Mike, and Don that i was pregnant. $1,200 later...i bought my bag!!

[–]antariusz 46 points47 points  (22 children)

I also took her to the required multiple appointments, saw the sonogram, and listened to the heartbeat (as required by law)

[–]scepticferret 3 points4 points  (14 children)

Is it actually required by law? Which state?

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's a scheme the state does to give you a guilt trip.

[–]scepticferret 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good it's a horrible practice

[–]montrev 11 points12 points  (6 children)

I'd wanna stand right next to the doctor as he vacuums out the kid. just to be sure.

[–]In_Mint_Condish 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Dude....that's kinda messed up

[–]Moir53 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Makes for a great risotto though.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No you don't, it smells fucking awful

[–]Huffnagle 35 points36 points  (3 children)

I’d rather be scammed out of a grand than child support.

[–]albus_scirocco 41 points42 points  (0 children)


Her: "I scammed him out of $300!" Him: "It only cost me $300 to next that bitch for good."

[–]montrev 15 points16 points  (0 children)

truth. spend 1 grand, save like $250k.

[–]ActualyIzDolan 10 points11 points  (1 child)

It really sucks to see shit like this exists. I know I could do it myself, I know I’d be guilty as a motherfucker.

However, I sure as hell could see myself recognizing this in action and telling the broad what and where to stick it faster than she’d try that shit.

How do these people live with themselves?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the real "enjoy the decline". Not women reap what they sow (life is fair!) but instead increasingly desperate women finding sneakier ways to dump their literally life destroying fuck-ups on unsuspecting betas via faking pregnancies to get married, faking paternity to cuck someone and even faking ending pregnancies for cash rewards. One can even buy pee on Craigslist from pregnant women if your beta needs a positive pregnancy test to shame him into commitment.

antariusz was only 50% sure it was his kid and still paid. He should have pulled a Steve Jobs claiming that he is infertile unless a true DNA test proves otherwise.

[–]unknowntruth5785 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm glad I had that drunken episode I was barely into reading about TRP and made me realize I was such a beta provider

[–]ThickDickWarrior89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

50% is 100%. They weren’t yours. You should have made the father reimburse you for that shit. I had to pay for an abortion before, when I was 17. This day in age - no way in hell I’d pay for an abortion where I thought the child may not be mine.

[–]markdumte 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Schools started doing blood type analysis because they were cheap and fun, but they stopped doing them because it lead to husbands finding out their kids were not theirs when the blood type combinations were impossible.

[–]H3yFux0r 26 points27 points  (3 children)

A girl I hooked up with in HS took advantage of my young stupidity and faked being on the pill. She found a guy married him and had my kid, her husband has no clue. I found out it was mine years later. Kid is just about grown up now so I just let sleeping dogs lie. It's fucked up for everyone.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Well, atleast nomatter what happens your genes have already been spread lmao

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Do you plan to ever have a relationship with the kid? Does the kid and husband know it's your kid?

[–]H3yFux0r 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As far as I'm aware no one knows but the mother, her friend, and me. The friend told me and then it dawned on she was right.

[–]WalterEArmstrong 33 points34 points  (7 children)

"Fortunately, all my kids are 99.99 percent mine, for the rest of you, if I was a gambling man, 10-15%, probably not necessarily the case." The information I've read is that it's closer to 30%.

[–]mikesteane 23 points24 points  (3 children)

That's of people that do the tests; not a representative group by a long way. 1-4% would be more accurate for the general population.

[–]ActualyIzDolan 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Well let’s say 50% end in divorce. Not all of these are cheating, but a lot are. Also, there are people who cheat and stay together. Because of my second sentence, let’s just assume it’s the 50% only that test.

That’d be around 5-7%, which sounds realistic to me

[–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That’d be around 5-7%, which sounds realistic to me

Is that looking through BP or RP lenses?

[–]1Harry_Wangs 84 points85 points  (12 children)

Why would your wife even joke about that? Sounds like she's implying she fucked other guys. The "stupid drunk" part is thinking maybe the guys didn't use a condom.

It is not like married women get drunk, fuck other guys and completely forget about it.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (1 child)

Sounds like a shit test to me. If she was actually worried she would have been resisting it, not joking about it.

[–]p3n1x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Comfort test (yes, part of the shit tree)

[–]chuckthundercock[S] 48 points49 points  (7 children)

Yes they are all saints and NAWALT. You must be new here...

[–]TRPDuck 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I think he was being sarcastic lol

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Lol so because nawalt, you are okay that your wife probably fucked around on you? Now who's the hamster?

[–]ShadowOfAnIdea 26 points27 points  (0 children)

OP acknowledged his wife fucked around in his post.

The post isn't about flaws in OPs marriage, it's about getting a dna tesr

[–]beta_no_mo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What should be do about it with all that damning info from her? Cry? Snoop through her phone records? Interrogate all her friends? Keep living his life and next the fuck outta her if some real reason to give a fuck comes along?

[–]yomo86 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Look what they do not what they say. The girl was pretty ok with it. If there is a slight chance the spawn is not his, she would throw a hissy fit or some other adequate girl tactic.

[–]FatGirlsInPartyHats 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I have two kids (7 and 10). I think if I found one of them to not be mine it would be utterly devastating but not as devastating as being a cuck for some random dude. Guess I'm ordering these tests.

[–]PS2Errol 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Personally, I wouldn't raise a child if it wasn't mine. I wouldn't spend a penny or waste any (further) resources on it.

[–]help757575 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I would prefer to see results in public on Maury....

[–]BobbyPeru 23 points24 points  (1 child)

So he voluntarily cucked himself.

[–]skizzleshiver 32 points33 points  (11 children)

Had my daughter through gestational surrogacy. $120k later, I know she is mine.

You get what you pay for. ;)

[–]rigbed 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Surrogacy is going to become more commonly practiced

[–]mangoat12 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I feel this is the way to go in the future, although quite expensive. And I think it's more difficult to provide care as one parent. At least you'll never have to worry about divorce rape or child support

[–]skizzleshiver 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Maybe just me but my daughter is about 8 months old now. It has not been nearly as difficult as everybody makes it seem.

But then I work from home and set my own schedule so I could do whatever she needs at any time.

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It has not been nearly as difficult as everybody makes it seem.

Let us be real, you dropped $120k, I will assume you are financially OK? You can pay for additional support any time you need it. How are you going to teach her female "things" when you aren't a woman?

[–]skizzleshiver 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am financially okay, yes.

I haven't figured out how to deal with the period discussion yet. I have 10+ years to figure it out though.

[–]magnificent18 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How is that going? Any backlash of that nature? I’m 24 thinking of this when I hit 29-30

[–]skizzleshiver 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's going well so far. Being a single parent is not as difficult as people make it seem (though I work from home on my own schedule so I can do whatever).

My mother was opposed to it at first, but she's happy now that she has a grandchild. No one else really seems to care. When people ask me, I just say something like "I have older parents. I wasn't meeting anyone. I have money. And I wanted a child now rather than later."

[–]bobaisdope 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I've been thinking about surrogacy lately, I agree this is a great idea to prevent divorce or child support but how could you explain to your daughter when she's grownup and realizes that she doesn't have a mother around while her peers do? Thanks!

[–]skizzleshiver 4 points5 points  (1 child)

My plan is to just be very honest from the beginning. From what I've read, the biggest problem that kids seem to have is when the parents lie about it.

Also, given my career, she won't have a normal life anyway (likely a lot of traveling and moving around early on).

It's likely that I will get married someday outside of the US. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that she will have a mother figure at some point.

[–]destraht 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you are already moving around then why not just knock up a normal woman in a foreign country? The whole divorce rape and alimony things don't apply for the vast majority of two-country situations. In the US they have us all locked down across the 50 states and territories but if you impregnate a woman in another country then her lack of legal options makes the agreement much more similar to how the situation would have been say a hundred years ago. Then your child gets a mother by default and you can help out AS YOU SEE FIT and hell you might even have a reasonable term relationship with the mother or an on-again-off-again relationship. One of the huge logistical problems that I see with forced alimony (besides the injustice of the slavery) is that if you are ever on hard times then you might need to form a plan about how you will invest your limited capital to create more but then some higher authoritative power steps in and tells you that you need to immediately give your fishing bait to her. So instead of being just between meals you have become a loser and the state and the woman point at you and say "see we always knew he was a loser, good thing for government". Well so without all of that shit liability a woman's reproductive capability becomes an asset and there are very limited ways in which she can fuck you over perhaps besides terrorizing your child as some of them do. Its just really nice for a child to have a mother in those early years.

[–]mendokusai99 8 points9 points  (1 child)

The hospital in my country did a blood test automatically. I think it’s mandatory, but I can’t find any supporting documentation. I’m happy either way.

[–]Hamilton950B 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It still amazes me that paternity testing is illegal in most of Europe. I assume you can get dna testing, but that would be hard to do pre-partum.

[–]MrAnderzon 17 points18 points  (12 children)

So he ended up raising him even though it was never his

[–][deleted] 82 points83 points  (8 children)

Depends on the age of the kid. 2 year old, 16 more years of money for a whore and a kid that's not his? Fuck that shit. 16 year old, raised the kid his whole life? You made the investment already, may as well profit on it and have possible benefits of a good son in your older years. Give the whore hell either way

[–]celtiberian666 24 points25 points  (6 children)

16 more years of money for a whore

Here in Brazil you are forced to pay even if the child is not yours. The judge will say you're the "emotional father", that the child have a right to a father and it is you. Done, just like that, now just pay.

You have to test and dump them before the baby can say daddy.

[–]montrev 17 points18 points  (5 children)

that is a common thing in USA too. yep ya gotta test soon as kid is born, don't sign birth certificate until you are sure.

[–]NapalmSunshine 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Also a thing that happens in the US; Labeled emotional father, charged for child support, denied visitation and parental rights unless you had previously adopted it.

[–]montrev 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yep. we need legal laws and courts but they shouldn't ever mention the word emotions. has nothing to do with cold hard law.

[–]NapalmSunshine 1 point2 points  (2 children)

One way to get out of it is to find the bio dad. But like, good fucking luck lol

[–]montrev 4 points5 points  (1 child)

yeah I know I have some of my bio kids out there being raised either by moms with cuck dads or just single moms. I'm wary about doing a 23 and me kind of test because I don't want my dna out there in a database that can be checked and then I legally have to pay. Right now no one can prove a thing. The cuck dad would be able to prove it's not his kid but not that I'm the dad.

[–]NapalmSunshine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’d suggest against the 23 and me in your case.

[–]montrev 3 points4 points  (0 children)

how about this tho. technically he'd be done paying at age 18. but do you pay for this kid's college? I would if it was really my kid. not for a fake kid tho.

[–]PunkyParty 1 points1 points [recovered]

Doesn't matter. Most places in the US if your names on the birth certificate it's yours in the eyes of the family courts.

[–]unknowntruth5785 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Through research no mater how emotional that day is don't fucking sign the birth certificate

[–]chuckthundercock[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wound is fresh, kid is in grade school, but I have no doubt he's not going to tell the kid and keep the S/O. He's BP as fuck. He comes to me for advice on how to handle her. She's way out of his league and he's a BP provider type. Fat, bald, corporate goon.

Doesn't matter what advice I gave him, I knew the outcome. He was going to stay, not say shit, and while he'll have power in the relationship for 2 weeks or so, he'll be back to licking her shoes and begging for pity sex in no time. Keep your eyes out for him in dead bedrooms.

I instead gave him the normal intro to RP trope. Lift, lose weight, dress better, put yourself first, the 101 of the sidebar. There is no way he'd leave her unless he seriously elevated his own self worth.

[–]mirage1e 35 points36 points  (5 children)

One random night out I picked up this girl who was at the bar alone and was talking about her bf who’s in his residency to be a neurosurgeon. I kept with her, Long story short we had sex in my car and she asked me to finish inside her. I hit her up a few weeks later for seconds and she said she’s working on her relationship but will “keep you in mind next time we hit a rough patch” I can see what happened to your friend happen to this guy at some point. She’s clearly in it for the $$$.

Being the “other guy” in this scenario, how would I ever feel secure in a relationship? Lol

[–]dotwav2mpfree 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Try having two sluts alleging their child is yours, but that they want their husband/ex bf to be the "father" as understood by the public. Biological prerogative be damned, I'll never feel secure with a relationship.

[–]p3n1x 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This right here is the overlooked subject. The father that might actually want to be the father, but is rejected for the orbit provider.

[–]Ananonguy88 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Same here. I'm currently cucking some guy regularly and she's constantly nagging me to go in without condoms while she's not taking any pills because "it's not the same". He's a foreigner though and other skin color so in case of birth she's fucked unless his denial is so strong.

How can he even keep her in his house while she's coming back home at 6AM every second day, she even informed me that he's constantly nagging her to get married and make her settle down with him.

What the fuck.

[–]mirage1e 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Women have no moral compass. Their thought process is: “what do I want to do?” And that’s where it ends, they have no regards for others’ feelings or how their actions affect others. They will straight up cheat on or drop a dude, no matter the level of investment made, if an “upgrade” shows up.

[–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 49 points50 points  (33 children)

I was an early adopter of DNA testing and did it with what I was told was my "daughter" from my then ex wife back in 2004 (we still fucked for a couple years after the divorce). The kid wasn't mine!

Now divorced from my second wife, and though my daughters really look like me, I'm getting the hankering to do some more home DNA kit tests...but very reluctant because of the love thing.

What do you think?

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 13 points14 points  (6 children)

It's worth the peace of mind to give your kids 100.00% of your heart rather that 99%. Sounds like some cliche tripe, but definitely felt better to not have my subconscious poking at me.

Imagine how great it'd feel to have a test that assured you a woman was faithful? You get that, with your children.

[–]chuckthundercock[S] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

"Faithful" is a reach, but knowing your kids are 99.999% yours is priceless.

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (5 children)

Do you value knowing, more than being loved/loving? Make your choice and act on it. There is no wrong choice but emotions are a bitch - they will try to grab you and guilt does hurt. Personaly I would not try to find out. If I did want to find out I would test and, if the results are not my DNA, depending on the time investment already committed (as OP's story tells), I would make a decision based on that. 2 years = fuck it. 16 years = ok I guess I am a father-figure.

[–]PatsFever 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Well said, age should be a factor in the walk away decision, walking away from a 16 year old vs a 2 year old are completely different scenarios.

[–]Luckylancer96 16 points17 points  (1 child)

What would you do with mom slut?

[–]Bpgiissues 32 points33 points  (4 children)

I had a DNA test done for my children about 2 years after i had already separated after discovering my ex cheating on me for a long period of time. Even though they looked like me I learned the hard way how easily she could lie and not knowing was gnawing at me. I even was starting to speculate on who could have knocked her up for them and when. I also did it as if it had confirmed she had been cheating on me then it would help put a certainty to just how far I couldn't trust her in our co parenting.

They are mine which is awesome and having the certainty allowed me to put those thoughts to rest. I would not have stopped being a father had it turned out negative. However it is also a consideration in having a vasectomy for me. Had they not been mine I would have been potentially tempted to add a biological child to the mix

[–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I got a vasectomy 2 months after my 2nd daughter was born. No debate, discussion or any small talk about it with the then wife; I just went and did it.

In hindsight, it is sad that men have to go to such extremes to ensure that they have "birth control" in a relationship....women are [typically] horribly irresponsible about it.

[–]p3n1x 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I even was starting to speculate on who could have knocked her up for them and when.

Yeah, but how did you mentally deal with being dead ass wrong? Insecurity made your mind wander. An insecure idea that was not correct.

For other readers, this is a great lesson in Abundance Mentality.

[–]_JustASnowFlake_ 4 points5 points  (4 children)

There is a movie related to this: Chaos Theory

[–]montrev 5 points6 points  (3 children)

that should be about dr malcom from Jurassic park impregnanting ellie and then dr grant unknowingly raises the kids as his own and also the kids have some dinosaur dna cuz why not

[–]UshankaDalek 1 point2 points  (1 child)

"You cheated on me...with a dinosaur?"

[–]1YouLoveThisBTW 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Learn the laws first. Here in PA, if you’re married or on the birth cert it’s your kid. No going back. Seriously, don’t sign anything till that test comes back. So if you are stuck paying, no matter what, why learn it’s not yours? Sounds like a quick way to extra anger and depression.

That being said, get it tested while it’s still in there, get a divorce QUICK. Lawyers are assholes, but get one sooner rather than later.

For those of you advocating changing the law, you’re forgetting the first imperative of the family court system: the good of the child. They’d MUCH rather fuck you, the “Dad”, than leave a child and his poor mommy all alone.

Edit: Added last paragraph.

[–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I've put some serious deep thought into this....it should be MANDATORY, a federal law, that child support only be granted after DNA testing of the (accused) father is done and it is 99.9% conclusive.

MRAs need to get this through congress like yesterday. It would get a lot of public support I believe. It would also be the strongest blow to the feminists courts in 40-50 years.

[–]p3n1x 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Ideologically this sounds like justice. Unfortunately, it is going to mess with the 'future servants' system and wealthy people don't give a rats ass about peasant transgressions.

People seem to forget that marriage vows technically say you agree to deal with all fuckery from your partner. Regardless of activity prior to or during said contract.

[–]theoppositeopinion1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Tested my daughter at about 6 months old. This was a while ago, but it was the best $350 I ever spent in my life. No regrets.

[–]MoDuReddit 52 points53 points  (16 children)

"23 and me" is not a reliable company. They've been publicly caught changing genetic tests results. They add deliberately "1% black" to every white person's test, just to try and "fuck with conservatives".

Image someone doing that to you when going to a gall bladder exam or any medical exam.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

They also add some jew in there.

[–]skizzleshiver 7 points8 points  (4 children)

This is not true. I'm heavily interested in genealogy (including genetic genealogy). I've tested with numerous companies and tested family members as well.

23 and Me is actually the most accurate in terms of genetic breakdown in my experience.

[–]MoDuReddit 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I can believe that, except the parts they change for political reasons.

[–]skizzleshiver 1 point2 points  (2 children)

None of us have ever had issues with coming back "part black". It is possible, though, that this is because my father is 100% Ashkenazi Jewish (so I'm naturally 50% Jewish). My mother, who is not Jewish, came back with trace Jewish DNA that really doesn't make sense given all of the proof that I have that none of her line was ever Jewish.

[–]MoDuReddit 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Like I said, this has been publicly admit by the company, you don't have to take my word for it.

[–]montrev 14 points15 points  (1 child)

wonder why tho?


Founders Linda Avey, Paul Cusenza and Anne Wojcicki

can Paul here overrule his two hamster co-founders, probably not.

[–]reformedman1124 6 points7 points  (2 children)

As someone with a kid, I never thought about doing a DNA test until I found TRP. However, with the knowledge of AWALT, anything is possible. I plan on sending one in very soon.

Anyone have suggestions on the best kind of test to get? Does it matter if it’s an at home/mail in test or a strictly in-lab test?

[–]MisterRoid 40 points41 points  (11 children)

Good post! There's nothing more important than paternity tests. You may think you are alpha AF, but if you raise another man's offspring you are a bigger loser than the incel living with his mom as a 40 year old.

Your friend is pathetic. I feel sorry for him and want to give him a beating at the same time.

[–]rigbed 20 points21 points  (9 children)

There’s nothing wrong with raising kids that aren’t yours, as long as you’re not being duped into thinking they’re yours. You can be a better role model than most fathers.

[–]MisterRoid 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Willingly raising another man's offspring is even worse. If a child doesn't have my blood, it's worthless to me.

[–]antariusz 37 points38 points  (7 children)

Even your Mrs thundercock resisted it, under the guise of humor.

There are no unicorns. It’s hard wired into their DNA to cuckold their regular partner with a fling.

You (she) just happened to get lucky.

Published to acclaim and controversy a decade ago, Sperm Wars is a revolutionary thesis about sex that turned centuries-old biological assumptions on their head. Evolution has programmed men to conquer and monopolize women while women, without ever knowing they are doing it, seek the best genetic input on offer from potential sexual partners. In this book, best-selling author Robin Baker reveals these new facts of life: ten percent of children are not fathered by their “fathers;” less than one percent of a man’s sperm is capable of fertilizing anything (the rest is there to fight off all other men’s sperm); “smart” vaginal mucus encourages some sperm but blocks others; and a woman is far more likely to conceive through a casual fling than through sex with her regular partner. It’s no wonder that Sperm Wars is a classic of popular science writing that will surprise, entertain, and even shock.

This isn’t theory, this isn’t red pill men guessing about the world. This is fact. This is how the world works. Studied and studied again, numerous times by biologists and medical doctors.

[–]1Harry_Wangs 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Agree about the wife, don't agree about Sperm Wars. Pretty known fact that the book is not very accurate.

[–]TheScarletScholar 4 points5 points  (3 children)

That is quite an outdated book by today's standards. Also what you claim as "fact" is exactly the opposite. Just because you pulled a quote from somewhere and said that biologists are studying it, does not make it true. A quick wiki search on this immediately shows a major factor of this theory has no supporting evidence from studies.

Sperm heteromorphism is the simultaneous production of two or more distinguishable types of sperm by a single male. The sperm types might differ in size, shape and/or chromosome complement

From the wiki

There are those that defend the egg from fertilization by other male sperm, and those that fertilize the egg. However, there is no evidence that the polymorphism of human sperm is for the purpose of antagonizing rival sperm.[1]

[–]antariusz 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Wait, so you acknowledge that there are sperm “designed” to protect and prevent other sperm from reaching the egg. But no evidence that they are “designed” to prevent other male sperm?

What kind of mental gymnastics is that. You think the sperm just sits around preventing her stable boyfriends sperm from impregnating her twice?

What about the fact that usually women fuck chads first and THEN fuck their boyfriends afterward (guilt/biology) it’s virtually never the other way around.

How long have you been on the redpill. How many stories have you heard where “girlfriend cheating on me, our sex life was great and I fucked her really good and then the very next night she was in chad’s bed. Nope it’s ALWAYS the other way around.

Common trope on MRP: Wife was acting really strange last week, I got my first blowjob in a year, I became suspicious so I installed a keylogger, turns out she was meeting her boss at a hotel. Not staying at the office.

[–]Me_ADC_Me_SMASH 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I'm not giving my genetic makeup to a company. So I can understand a form of resistance from a woman.

on the other hand having kids is not my cup of tea

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Get this kind of testing done as so as you can collect your kids DNA. The longer you father a kid that isn’t yours, the harder it will be to get out of child support.

[–]etherealembryo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like this but medicine doesnt taste good all the time. These men are sick and rp is the medicine we all need.

[–]montrev 17 points18 points  (8 children)

""I raised him, he's my son, blah blah... " "

exact definition of cuck

[–]theycallmenubs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's what's nice about being a different race than the wife, it's obviously a mix between us. Also tracking her period and times we had sex, I even know what day conception was. Still would be interested in getting the gene testing though.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (9 children)

I think if something like that happened to me I would divorce my wife but still treat the kid as my own. That child shouldn't grow up without a father figure to love him and support him (if the real father is nowhere to be found) just because his mother was a whore. If anything it would be a great lesson to redpill the child with.

[–]klol246 4 points5 points  (6 children)

So you’re gonna adopt all the children without fathers? It’s a nice thing to do but why support a woman that cheated on you?

[–]bcdude2 6 points7 points  (2 children)

He's supporting the kids not the woman. It's not their fault she was whoring around. Yes she might benefit from it but who gives a shit. Life is better when you don't base your decisions on coming out the "winner" in your man vs woman fight.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

So you’re gonna adopt all the children without fathers?

Never said that. I used the word child, as in singular.

It’s a nice thing to do but why support a woman that cheated on you?

You don't support the wife. You divorce her and leave her ass. Supporting the child does not have to come in the form of payment. It comes in mentorship. In this hypothetical scenario you divorce your wife and have no financial obligation because it's not your child not your problem. However, if this child was a good age, let's say 15-16, then the damage has been done. Leaving a kid at that age is cruel because of the significant amount of time spent raising that child. I think all of us agree that woman has to be dumped but when that kids a certain age you should consider yourself a mentor in that child's life and no matter how "alpha" you are you should want to make a positive impact on that kid.

[–]ioudas210 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Where is the best place to buy this and what should we get? Im interested in this service.

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Although I want a paternity test, I would never take a 23 test. It's like facebook, except you get to pay to give your genetic information and make it available to large corporations.

A man has been convicted of murder as a result of his son having taken that test and being genetically close enough set detectiveson his trail. And that's assuming he did murder and they didn't use it as a setup.

They've also had workers admit to tampering with results, adding african ancestry to mess with people. I would not trust these kind of organizations as far as I could throw them.

[–]Jyontaitaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think in order to popularize this we need a simple catchy term.

I propose “paternity rape” as the phrase we should use. It accurately describes the emotional range a man would feel if he found himself in such circumstances.

[–]dza76wutang 3 points4 points  (2 children)

FWIW, read the fine print on these. Some, like 23andMe, IIRC, will legally claim ownership over your DNA.

I was curious how much of my heritage was Celtic vs Mediterranean but pulled plug when I learned the ownership thing.

I don't fully grasp the nuance or gravity of the ownership issue but something about it unnerved me.

[–]chuckthundercock[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In the future all our genetic code will be public information and searchable. It doesn’t keep me up at night and I’ve been sequenced by a couple services.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 3 points4 points  (3 children)

My kids look exactly like me so I'm good.

BUT. Check this. My ex-wife's father died before I met her. But this dude made the rounds like a milk man.

She was 16 or 17 a married woman that worked for him had a baby that sometimes my ex would babysit. My ex thought the baby looked a lot like her other younger siblings. So we looked up that baby, now a grown woman, on Facebook once. She looks EXACTLY like my ex wife's cousin. I would wager a month's wages on that baby daddy being a cuck. Good luck for him getting paid back for all those years.

[–]blakspeech 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Not trying to introduce any doubt but I've always thought the "look exactly like me" line is in someways flawed. My ex tends to date guys that look similar.

[–]throwlaca 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I'm pretty sure my son is not mine. Fortunately I'm already parted ways with his mom, so a test is useless at this point. He's already mine, what can I do? I probably will test him just to be sure, but I will love him anyway.

[–]goadsaid 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Hopefully you aren't paying anything for him.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Of course he is. He says he'll love him anyway. He'll do whatever makes him feel best.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

If he chooses to that's his business. You don't need to be a biological parent to form a relationship with someone. You can't just take back years of bonding with someone you thought was your child.

[–]H42 1 points1 points [recovered]

I have a friend who has two primary male friends in her life, me and another guy. When she was 26 she decided to have a baby on her own. Her job as a nanny allowed her to bring her daughter to work everyday, so it actually worked out very well for her. Her daughter is now a fairly well-adjusted 24yo hottie.

She always said it the the pizza delivery guy who knocked her up, not me or her other guy. She said she had made a deal with pizza-guy that if he stayed out of her & daughter's lives, she would not press for child support. The deal was struck and it worked out.

I always suspected the daughter could possibly be mine. When her little hottie was 21yo, we all agreed to a DNA test. 99.99% not mine.

When I asked hottie, which of her mom's two guys she liked better, she said me, because she never learned anything from the other guy. That made me feel pretty good, I have to say.

[–]rigbed 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Since the hottie isn’t your daughter she can be your plate.

[–]Minhoquento 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Anyone else think it's weird to have sex with a woman you saw as a child?

[–]pehsxten 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Do you ever stop red pilling

[–]montrev 3 points4 points  (0 children)

woody allen knew what was up

[–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I asked hottie, which of her mom's two guys she liked better, she said me, because she never learned anything from the other guy. That made me feel pretty good, I have to say.

LOL, like she's gonna say "The other guy over you. He's cool; you, otoh..."

[–]PedophilePriest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ive heard there's some controversy over these cheap over the counter DNA tests. Companies can request your DNA to deny you insurance for example if you have certain markers. Raises some huge privacy issues for me. Is anyone here more knowledgeable on the subject?

[–]soulcatcher357 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How valid are these tests if you think it was your brother?

[–]chuckthundercock[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still super valid. People hashed 23 and me but from a paternity perspective it’s 99.9.

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