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Girls are losers (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by L0wD0g

This realization helped my game a lot, although I admit it was also very dissapointing to realize this. Girls are fucking losers. Pretty girls even more.

Granted, most guys are losers as well. But that's not the main subject now.

What do I actually mean with girls being losers and why is it important to internalize this thought? If you take a look at the daily life of an average pretty girl (8+, 20-29 y/o) any selfrespecting man would be repulsed by the amount of time they waste on mindless bullshit. Bingewatching Netflix series, spending hours on social media, reading Vogue, .... Activities that are in no way improving themselves or anything around them.

Most men actually also lead a similar lifestyle, which IMHO is even worse.

Inherently there is nothing with this lifestyle IF (and only IF) you are where you want to be. You have no things to work on, no more passions to pursue, no more money to make, no gym you need to attend, no mental issues you should work on, etc.

Which honestly rarely is the case.

Most pretty girls (8+) have nothing going for them, except their looks. They never learned to think for themselves, they have no problem solving skills, they have no ambition, they have no personality, no originality, etc.

Then the few girls that actually do have something going for them often are one-trick ponies. I have dated some girls that were publicly highly regarded in what they were doing (singing, modeling, cooking). Still I was utterly surprised when I discovered that again it was all they had next to their beauty.

Is this a bad thing? Absolutely not. I adore beautiful girls. I like their feminine energy, their naivety, their carelessness. I'm not looking to discuss Quantum Mechanics or the Jungian interpretation of religion with girls. Hell, if a girl could intellectually challenge me I'm pretty sure there would be close to no attraction from my side.

So why then this important to realize?

From a pragmatic point of view, this realization will increase your success with women, while also increasing your pleasure while interacting with them. Pretty women are attracted to men with options. To men that don't make them or any other girl their priority. That are selective with spending time. That have a goal and live with a purpose.

So. Realizing that pretty girls are nothing more then pretty girls, will:

a) take them of the pedestal, which increases your chances of fucking them

b) make you realize that one pretty girl you fucked is not that special, there are a lot of girls that can offer you the same

c) prevent you from spending too much time on a girl

d) it will make you less possessive. If you enjoy a waterslide, and then some other dude goes of the slide after you, do you cry? Does him going of the slide decrease your experience? Same with pretty girls, fucking them is a nice experience. Nothing more, nothing less. They're not your possessions.

Again apart from giving you more peace of mind, this mindset will actually ease up attracting them in the first place.


[–]WakingToNewDawn 1 points1 points [recovered]

I understand the point of this post is to help unpedastalize women, but the whole “women aren’t on my intellectual level because they won’t discuss quantum mechanics” is neckbeardy. In my experience going through gender balanced STEM programs, I have met a lot of very attractive women that were also ambitious and intelligent. While culture may give some people the option to be vapid, as you’ve discussed, many people (men AND WOMEN) are not complacent with that and elect to go above and beyond for their own fulfillment.

My advice is to take a break from this forum, delete tinder for a while (tinder will absolutely destroy just about anyone’s faith in the opposite sex), and actually meet some women in a different setting.

[–]Thetwothatgotaway 1 points1 points [recovered]

My sister is a really hot 26 year old engineer. OP isn't finding the right educated personalities to contend with. She is rare, but not unheard of, especially nowadays. Divorced her beta husband, too as she realized her SMV before kids. Warned her on that one but smart chicks figure it out regardless...

[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not a debate forum. If you wish to have an argument with what we do here, there's a different group for that. It's even neutrally-modded.

But if you are not personally here to play, get off the field.

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[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not a debate forum. If you wish to have an argument with what we do here, there's a different group for that. It's even neutrally-modded.

But if you are not personally here to play, get off the field.

[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not a debate forum. If you wish to have an argument with what we do here, there's a different group for that. It's even neutrally-modded.

But if you are not personally here to play, get off the field.

[–]brinkleybuzz 302 points303 points  (63 children)

Bingewatching Netflix series, spending hours on social media, reading Vogue, .... Activities that are in no way improving themselves or anything around them.

To be brutally honest, substitute video games for Netflix and internet boards for social media in this line and you will have described a large portion of the male population.

The difference between a male and female loser is the female loser was born with something that has value out of the box, her vagina. A male loser is worthless.

[–]Jcart105 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except men... You know, build and maintain civilization, occupy all the important jobs, and pay all of the taxes.

[–]MrCarepig 179 points180 points  (7 children)

Well if you put women on the same standard as men yeah they are. But theyre not really programed to be ambitious, diciplined and strong like us. The worst thing you can call a man is a loser. Call a woman a loser, no biggie. The worst thing you can call a woman is a whore, call a man a whore hell say thank you.

[–]tolerantman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Girls are whores"

Now that would shake things up

[–]derex 1 points1 points [recovered]

Inherently there is nothing with this lifestyle IF (and only IF) you are where you want to be.

Hot girls are already where they want to be ... at least until they hit the wall.

[–]L0wD0g[S] 55 points56 points  (12 children)

Not true. Do you think girls want all the mental issues they cope with? Do you think they want their attention-addiction? Do you think they want to be vulnerable to manipulation? They are not where they want to be, but life does not force them to work on theirselves, like it does with men.

[–]letterboyink 11 points12 points  (9 children)

Curious if you could expand that last part

[–]ioncehadsexinapool 95 points96 points  (7 children)

Women see their pussy as currency for resources. Men see their resources as currency for pussy

[–]ThePhoenixOfDallas 1 points1 points [recovered]

Now that’s a harsh and bitter red pill. Eat before consuming.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. One of those is worth little to nothing, one of those is worth endless hours of blood, sweat, and tears. Funny how things got to be this bad. Enjoy the decline boys

[–]WalterEArmstrong 22 points23 points  (0 children)

And if the divorce courts weren't raping men's bank accounts at break neck speed that wouldn't be a bad thing. It worked for thousands of years.

[–]somebullshitrp 7 points8 points  (2 children)

To expand upon this:

Women are born with everything they need, and only have to do minor upkeep on their assets (don't get fat).

Men are born with nothing (unless you win the genetic lottery) and must build their assets and constantly maintain them.

So, to summarize the OP: pain, suffering, and struggle build character, but since women don't have to go through that as men do, they are typically bereft of any kind of character.

[–]test0314 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Women age 40+ have to go thru the pain, suffering, and struggle for the rest of their lives.

[–]daremeboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not if they properly cash in on their young eggs and lock down a provider before they hit the wall.

[–]tolerantman 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Women in western countries are exactly where they want to be, because nowhere else they have as much freedom as here, so yeah, they'd rather have the "mental issues" whoring around with Chads than being a housewife.

[–]WholesomeAwesome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol whenever I hear of mental issues slutting around, I lol so hard.

yeah right mental issues spinning plates. mental issues. what a joke

[–]kaane 274 points275 points  (27 children)

Do you realize how many offers do these women get daily ? Especially the beautiful ones. You wouldn't believe. Trust me.

When everything is handed to you on a silver plate, you will not find the motivation to get out and educate yourself. Do something better for you and for the world around you.

This is pretty normal if you ask me. The women are meant to be giving birth to the children and keep feeding them until they grow up. They don't have to be rocket scientists.

If this bothers you, well, there is nothing you can do about it. Remember, a man has to build himself from the ground up.

[–]Flying_Wingback 213 points214 points  (5 children)

"Women are born, men are built"

[–]ThePhoenixOfDallas 1 points1 points [recovered]

If there as a TRP bible, that sentence and the theory behind it would be one of the gospels.

[–]kaane 25 points26 points  (0 children)

In another words,

Men cannot make himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A woman simply is, but a man must become - Camille Paglia

[–]BewareTheOldMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Women are born, men are built"

Quote of the week...and on Monday at that.

[–]SoulTheorist 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That is so fucking true. God damn I love this thread

[–]Lambdal7 13 points14 points  (6 children)

I know several really hot girls, banging body, c cups, cute face.

It's actually not that much. Every couple of weeks maybe they get asked for their number, every 2 months on a date.

This isn't the case for bimbo-like women. Yes, if you wear a lot of makeup and dress sexy, you get asked out more, but if you're a hot girl, but wear normal clothes, then not so much.

It becomes even less if the girl is educated and has a career, because then, guys with lower education and l career, don't dare to ask her out.

[–]ghosts_of_me 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nice anecdote bro. Now ask them to show you their inbox on their profile on the sugar daddy sites.

[–]FindTheBus 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Bullshit. Not only are you undercounting the approaches they get, but you're not counting all the approaches guys throw where they think they're subtle. The cop pulling a girl over and giving a warning for a violation she didn't even do. The boss. The club owner inviting her to his loft for an afterparty. Etc.

[–]g1114 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I just can't believe that, and wouldn't believe cute girls that told me that. Maybe in the 90s, but with dating apps, these girls can line up a solid guy every night of the week, for many weeks straight if she's efficient enough. And there are plenty of non-bimbos are on dating apps

I do agree with your final point though, only because women won't date down in their opinion. Hot females in med school got it bad, but only because they themselves won't date dudes 'beneath' them, which is like 90% of dudes in that case.

[–]Lambdal7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes they could, but the quality of guys on dating apps is abysmally low and yhey get bombarded by messages, leading most of them to delete the app straight away again.

The ones that love attention stay on the apps, the ones that dont bother leave.

[–]swejap 17 points18 points  (8 children)

And now apply 200 000 years of evolution to that.

[–]TheRealJesusChristus 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Humans are on planet for since about 1.2million years. Earlier humanoids arent considered humans (homo). So more like apply 1.2 million years to that.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 55 points56 points  (5 children)

Don't even get me started on the lobsters.

[–]Greg4581 51 points52 points  (4 children)

"SO YOU'RE SAYING WE SHOULD BE LIKE THE LOBSTERS?" --Dumb bitch 2018

[–]1earlpfeiffer 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I spent a good part of my childhood with my hands kept closed with a rubber band and I find this a painful and insensitive line of discussion.

My father was boiled alive!

[–]goldenhourlivin 14 points15 points  (0 children)

“TELL ME ABOUT THE LOBSTERS”

Such an abrupt transition lol. She knew she was going down in flames.

[–]L0wD0g[S] 33 points34 points  (3 children)

Is this a bad thing? Absolutely not. I adore beautiful girls. I like their feminine energy, their naivety, their carelessness. I'm not looking to discuss Quantum Mechanics or the Jungian interpreation of religion with girls. Hell, if a girl could intellectually challenge me I'm pretty sure there would be close to no attraction from my side.

[–]Shitonya_Johnson 10 points11 points  (2 children)

that's a shitty thing if true.. smart girls turn me on.. It means that they have more than their pussy to get ahead in life... maybe a smart girl is less of a loser... They are in my opinion

[–]DayGameChirality 16 points17 points  (1 child)

To each of his own. People here treat men like one size fits them all. My cock goes limp with a stupid woman.

[–]ThrowFader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Facts, like I wouldn't want a dumb bitch.

Some are too dumb to even realize how dumb they are.

Next them once they open their mouth lol

[–]antariusz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is profound, and applies to men also.

Complacency is the enemy.

Success breeds complacency.

I work out harder when I’m not getting laid. I focus all of my time and effort into being disciplined. When I want something, I have to strive for it.

[–]-clickhere- 1 points1 points [recovered]

"Sampling bias"

You need to hang around where smart women congregate. A few of them will be hot. Then, you can date someone who is not a loser.

It sounds like you are suffering from sampling bias, in that you are surrounded by the 'loser' variety of women.

Within that context, your post is 100% correct, and dead-on.

But why not try branching out to where the smart/successful women are, and then report back. I'm fortunate to work in a place with go-getters of all types, including women, and they are smart, successful, and definitely not losers.

Still AWALT, for sure, and on overdrive.

But not losers.

[–]zealanderx 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's no joke-

Like OP says, "MOST" women are this way...

But this confirms OP has never had a 9/10 or 10/10- These women exist, he's never even been close.

Every woman I have taken seriously was hot and also a stone cold killer... whatever it is, smarts, wits, dance, yoga, health, diet, art... I dunno... there are women with passion out there.

[–]ioncehadsexinapool 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Yeah, oddly enough I can game any “dumb” girl. Even if she’s hot. But if she’s with it mentally and smart, especially career driven, it kind of throws me for a loop and oddly I seem to want her more.

It’s like I get a rush from fucking them because I dominated a smart person. Shits weird man I’m sure some freud shit could explain it. I hope I’m not alone but saying this on trp is like asking a bunch of nfl players who their favorite impressionist painter is.

[–]ThrowFader 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Whenever I meet a girl who seems to be able to potentially challenge my intellect (rare) I immediately shit test her.

If she passes I get attracted heavy. But I won't catch a oneitis over it.

Smart girls really are more attractive.

I like danger, and play, and smart women are the most....

[–]ioncehadsexinapool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same, check my reply to the other guy that replied to what you did.

[–]Lizzle372 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because you deem her more valuable. Who wants to lose something of good quality?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I feel the exact opposite. If I'm gaming on a smart woman, especially one with a good career, I'm most at ease. But I'm also 38 and am pretty much at the top of my profession. I'm also in a field that all the, "I love to travel" types find fascinating (urban design and planning). Escalate to a walk around the city that includes me spitting some knowledge about city form and architecture, and they are putty in my hands. I've literally never once done this and not closed the deal. I don't think it would work on a dumb girl.

[–]ioncehadsexinapool 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Good point. My last plate I stupidly got oneitis for is an urban planner. She’s in the “aight” category, as Patrice would say (ugly, aight, & fine vs 1-10) maybe even ugly to some. She’s a huge dork.

I’m gonna get shit on for this but I really do get oneitis for a girl with a good personality that’s dorky & cute vs a 10 that’s a box of rocks, or even normal. I’m so weak for the former type it’s not even funny. The whole “treating her like a child” comes natural to me for normies and dummies, probably cause I can’t connect with them. You know as I’m typing this out I’m starting to figure myself out.

Dummies even if they’re hot, I only connect with them on a physical level so there’s no feels. If I can connect on a level higher than that, then I feel like that’s a prerequisite for feels. Hm.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think there’s any reason to give you shit for that. You like what you like. I’m all about the nerdy, curvy girls. Not giant dorks and not giant fat girls. Just cute girls who like geeky stuff and are capable of carrying on a decent conversation.

[–]BetaBitchBoy69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

fuck man you haven’t seen loser until you’ve seen my ex lmfaooooo

[–]econquest 14 points15 points  (1 child)

NOTE: I am just a novice to TRP so take this with a grain of sand.

This is what I thought of your post. There are two kinds of pretty girls:

  1. Humans, who are subject to the same laws as a perfect-10 male model. Do you think with the right genetics a man can be a model without any regard to his choice of clothing, style, health, diet, anything? Of course not. The first type of perfect-10 girl is only human and of course gets to be a 10 by investing the required amount of time into fashion, beauty, travel, clothes, diet, friends, and so on.

  2. There is another type of "perfect 10" girl who spends 0 time doing the loser activities you listed: the ones in your fantasy.

Please note that the red pill teaches you the male equivalent, but from the point of view of the first type (humans.) There's a second type of man who is a billionaire, but without any time investment (has all the time in the world), can read thoughts, is an expert at everything, can take care of a woman without any hesitation and always knows just what to say in all situations and all this doesn't take any time at all. This is the type-2 that lives in women's heads.

The actual billionaires are "losers". They're just in meetings for 100 hours per week, or reading 100 page legal opinions from their chief legal counsel. And they have a beer gut. Here's mark zuckerberg.

What a loser. Type 1 billionaires are losers, just like type 1 perfect 10 models are losers. what you're looking for, and what some women are looking for, is just a fantasy.

[–]Heinzdoofens 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are looking for a magic show. It is the Prestige

[–]look_good 1 points1 points [recovered]

“she’s not yours, it’s just your turn”

[–]Georgeaid 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Nothing I’ve ever read is more accurate than this statement.

[–]ass_boy 41 points42 points  (4 children)

Luckily we get to read it in every post even when it is completely out of context.

[–]3whatsthisgarg 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Luckily we get to read it in every post even when it is completely out of context.

god I'm so sick of seeing that.

It's also not accurate and not helpful. It's a cuck mantra that completely throws in the towel on the whole thing.

Get good enough, become man enough, and it's HER turn with YOU. I speak from experience: it's HER turn to have you fuck her in a stairwell, or in a stranger's van parked on a public street.

[–]Reunn 115 points116 points  (21 children)

I'm not looking to discuss Quantum Mechanics or the Jungian interpreation of religion with girls. Hell, if a girl could intellectually challenge me I'm pretty sure there would be close to no attraction from my side.

To be fair, you have to be very high in the dominance hierarchy to understand Jordan Peterson. He is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of psychology most of the truths will go over a typical listener's head. There's also Peterson's non-nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterization - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Jungian literature, roughly speaking. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these truths, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Jordan Peterson truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in his existential catchphrase "Clean Your Room," which itself is a cryptic reference to Dostoevsky's Russian epic The Brothers Karamazov. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated post-modernists scratching their heads in confusion as JBP's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What Neo-Marxists... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Jordan Peterson tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they've climbed the dominance hierarchy.

[–]sharp7 60 points61 points  (0 children)

I love JP but this copypasta is hilarious.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Imagine getting a THE RED PILL tattoo. I bet someone out there has. AWALT

[–]dreadfrog 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I did not read The Brothers Karamazov (yet) so I'm interested in knowing what the "clean your room" cryptic reference is. Would you elaborate?

[–]Reunn 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It's just an adaptation of the Rick and Morty copypaste. I'm not aware of any actual reference between the two and I have read it.

[–]danhaas 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's a copypasta, ignore the original commentary. But Dostoiveski is such a rich source that the "clean your room" phrase does have a use. In "Crime and Punishment", the protagonist is a nihilistic blue pilled that lives alone in a filthy and depressing room. His room reflects the state of his mind.

[–]BigLebowskiBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, that must be exhausting.

[–]GoGetting 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, sure, the grapes are sour.

[–]IdoNtEvEnWaTz 62 points63 points  (8 children)

Well they get treated like goddesses when they are in their prime which probably reduces their drive to become competent in a particular field of knowledge.

I'm not looking to discuss Quantum Mechanics or the Jungian interpretation of religion

Cringey as fuck. Just because you watched some physics youtube videos and JBP you think you are knowledge in these subjects? You only scratched the surface and that doesn't take much time. The truth is it's most impossible to be a rennaisance man because the depth of knowledge available in every discipline these days is incredibly vast.

Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. It's not healthy to only point out the worst in people.

[–]PostMellow 1 points1 points [recovered]

OP watches a JBP lecture:

"Wow, my IQ is now 150!"

[–]WalterEArmstrong 10 points11 points  (2 children)

"The truth is it's most impossible to be a medieval man......." Did you mean "renaissance man"?

[–]whoismikejoneswho 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Lol. "Its like, yur never gonna be that smart bro, yur not fkn mid-evil man"

[–]CanuckinFL 22 points23 points  (2 children)

that's absurd. Of course you strive to repeat that level of knowledge or you're just simply a dumbass.

The metric of intelligence is curiosity. Talk to a very pretty girl. They're the most un-curious people you can find.

It makes dialogue with them sheer tedium.

[–]PostMellow 1 points1 points [recovered]

Talk to a very pretty girl. They're the most un-curious people you can find.

What an absurd statement. The other day, this pretty girl was really curious to know my zodiac sign!

[–]Boeijen666 11 points12 points  (0 children)

But also they can feel things! My current cum sock says to me "I think the full moon is making me feel moody lately. I feel emotional, bit all over the place". I said "Ah that sucks, maybe if we root youll feel better". She replies " nah I cant, got my period".

[–]IntensePancakes 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This post reeks of someone who has never been successful enough to be in an environment composed of other truly successful people, which gasp includes women as well, and they're not one-trick ponies.

I work at a top management consulting firm, and my colleagues (both male and female) are both extremely knowledgeable and interested in the world and its various intellectual disciplines, as well as being extremely successful at a young age.

Are there patterns and tendencies among women to be interested in, on average, less-intellectual topics than men? Sure. But does that mean that all successful, intelligent women are "one trick ponies"? Absolutely not. If you truly believe that then you are a legitimate idiot.

Also, dear lord, have you ever actually had a conversation with a real human being? Nobody fucking discusses Quantum Mechanics in common conversation unless you're a physicist, or you're an edgy neckbeard "I am very smart" type who has no idea what the fuck he's talking about, which I would argue, is even worse than a girl who only watches netflix and goes shopping.

You, sir, are the loser.

[–]throwlaca 35 points36 points  (1 child)

I'm not looking to discuss Quantum Mechanics or the Jungian interpreation of religion with girls.

Sorry to dissapoint you but the only thing that the majority of men and even men in this very sub think is "ahh my team is better than yours!" or "I'm alpha as fuck hurr durrr fucking betas everywhere!"

And this is what girls have to put up with, because they are attracted to this beasts of men.

[–]C_Till 21 points22 points  (3 children)

I didn't think that RP could get any sillier....but here is a post saying girls are losers. Bravo

[–]nomorelulu 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Yeah this is brutal. Just sounds bitter and stupid.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agree. This guy probably got cucked or something

[–]otticusoppositionist 1 points1 points [recovered]

Genuinely curious as to how this OP (and others like it) get upvotes and generally supportive comments - even on this sub.

Do the sane folks just ignore this drivel? I see some genuinely intelligent arguments on here occasionally; surprised not to see these folks speaking out.

[–]zombi-roboto 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have recently been wondering the same thing.

#TinfoilHat: Is TRP being provocateur'd?

[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not a debate forum. If you wish to have an argument with what we do here, there's a different group for that. It's even neutrally-modded.

But if you are not personally here to play, get off the field.

[–]laughingandgrief 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hell, if a girl could intellectually challenge me I'm pretty sure there would be close to no attraction from my side.

And the truth reveals itself.

[–]suckinfishboy 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This isn't really redpill material

[–]liizzsar 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Thanks to Marie Curie, a physicist, chemist and Nobel Prize winner, you can get an X-ray to see how tiny your brain really is.

Honestly, I'm not saying every women is an intellectual machine, but to categorize the whole female population as losers when just as many guys spend their whole life being gym rats and spouting "bro" (the equivalent of female "like") while posting Instagram pictures of their perfect abs to get attention, without the slightest interest in politics, business, history or science, doesn't strike me as fair.

You're simply talking about vain and low IQ people like Kim Kardashian, and maybe there are more women in that category, but that doesn't mean ALL women are like that.

[–]SelfTaughtPiano 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"women in general are unexceptional in most field"

"not true, look at this one exception from decades ago"

[–]liizzsar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Men and women are biologically different, so we're not going to excel at the same things (modern feminists will try to say differently, but obviously most rational people can agree on this.) That doesn't make one gender "losers."

Biologically, it's much easier for men to take risks and become entrepreneurs, while women tend to be more cautious. That doesn't make us "losers" it makes us better mothers, wives, homemakers.

The point of all this is, we're all better when we work together, instead of pointing at the other gender and saying, "Men aren't shit" or "Women are losers."

[–]nomorelulu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I adore beautiful girls. I like their feminine energy, their naivety, their carelessness. I'm not looking to discuss Quantum Mechanics or the Jungian interpretation of religion with girls. Hell, if a girl could intellectually challenge me I'm pretty sure there would be close to no attraction from my side.

Man you're missing out on a lot

[–]2chazthundergut 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Girls may be losers, but even the most uninteresting woman is capable of bearing children.

So they have intrinsic value.

Men have little intrinsic value. All the value that a man has comes from what he has done and what he is capable of doing.

So men should stop worrying about how women are losers and focus on rising to nature's challenge. Sort your life out. Face your demons. Lift. Kill it in your career. Ace every class. Find something that ignites your passion and pursue it seriously. Build a social circle of men you respect. Take ownership of your life. Become a leader, starting with yourself

Chicks are plenty cool. Tits, ass, and a pretty smile. The smell of her hair, the softness of her skin. The way her head tilts back as she laughs. The look in her eye when she surrenders to you completely. She's already good. It's up to you to become better than her.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea. It's a lot harder to be a decent man than to be a decent girl that's where discipline and wisdom comes into play

[–]jackandjill22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is true. Women can make it further in life being mediocre.

  • "It's more fun to be a mediocre uninteresting girl than a guy"

High achieving men, & average women have every incentive to STOMP average & below dudes. Combine that with the fact that women have hoards of people willing to take care of them. The scenario's entirely different.

[–]mocket_ran 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know a girl sb9 that is a model and has 170k followers on instagram. She does absolutely nothing to better herself in anyway..in fact she stays up late most nights watching movies and drinking, sleeps in all day, doesn't exercise or work out..is just lucky to have the face and body she has. Personality boring....but men fall at her feet and treat her like a goddess. I agree with your point..she is a loser. At some point once she has fallen from the tree of the desired she will grab some beta bucks branch on her way down and likely be taken care of the rest of her life...still being a looser. As you said, don't worship it, slay it when you can and just move the fuck on. They aren't unicorns..just pretty horses.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It looks like you are surrounded by idiots and you've become one as well.

[–]wayneinthegame 11 points12 points  (10 children)

Pretty law student had a giant property law book under her arm so I asked "Does that book say anything about finders keepers?" She had never heard of it. So I said "you know, if I find something on the street, whose property is it?" She said "oh that's Tort law" Tort law is civil liability, suing McDonalds for too hot coffee.

This woman is in law school. Why?

[–]CaptainSweno 26 points27 points  (7 children)

I just read the Wikipedia article on tort law and I'm pretty sure you're wrong, bro. It seems to be the category of law breaking that isn't really criminal and has a lower requirement of evidence. But it can definitely be about individuals. Seems like her point was that finders keepers is considered a sort of negligence with intent to steal. Since it's reasonable that you won't be able to find the person anyway so like you can probably keep it but they can take you to tort court (lol) to get it back if they find out.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is property law not torts.

[–]tibikush2012 4 points5 points  (4 children)

"Hell, if a girl could intellectually challenge me I'm pretty sure there would be close to no attraction from my side."

Why is that? It is much more satisfying having an intelligent AND pretty plate/GF.... What the hell am I suppose to do with her between sex sessions if she is an empty jar?

Why are you not attracted to intelligent girls? I have an opinion why but I don't want to insult

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 33 points34 points  (60 children)

Ask a pretty girl- ANY pretty girl- a deep question about politics, cosmology, or history. Unless she is a politician or this is her "one trick" she will know nothing. Even if she is an Astronomer she will know NOTHING beyond her narrow range. She may be able to tell you all about Cepheid variables in the Triangulum Galaxy but she won't know a Black Hole from an Alpha particle (except the Alphas somehow make her tingle while the Beta particles don't do much for her). She may be able to tell you about 14th Century Victorian England but she won't know a thing about the Battle of Jutland.

Even the most accomplished woman is absolutely a one trick pony.

My wife is a ridiculously highly paid Business Lawyer and knows the federal tax code inside and out and backwards and forwards. Beyond that? Well, she can recite every character and all the relationships between every house and every character in Game of Thrones- which is really quite impressive- but not exactly a sign of a well rounded intellectual.

[–]HabitsForSuccess 1 points1 points [recovered]

And what is the problem with that? Im genuinely curious, because I am the same way.

I know my field inside and outside, and I get paid very well for it. Learning something that doesnt benefit me or interests me in any way sounds like a waste of time.

[–]nomorelulu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This thread as a whole is retarded, including the comment you're responding to

[–]Jonathan_Frias 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well I mean that seems true enough, but at some point people might find somebody who is mostly one dimensional (and usually closed minding) to be off putting. People tend to like people who are well rounded. You might already be well rounded. I don't know you

[–]ButterTartWarrior 8 points9 points  (4 children)

And you are an alleged liberal arts PhD professor and a barred attorney with your own practice and just typed the phrase "14th Century aVictorian". What a ridiculous joke you are

[–]RandyMcsavage 15 points16 points  (1 child)

She couldn't tell you about 14th Century Victorian England as it wasn't a thing!

[–]3whatsthisgarg 8 points9 points  (0 children)

14th Century Victorian England

I would like to think that was just a typo or oversight or something, but I really don't think so.

[–]Hydwyn 1 points1 points [recovered]

This is true of all people though, not just women

[–]CanuckinFL 12 points13 points  (0 children)

absolutely not, there have been, and always will be "men of letters". Despite our current idiotic social climate (flat earthers, conspiracy theorists, and #metoo and that nonsense), many men aspire to know as much as humanly possible about all subjects. But if you want a treat, head over to Buffalo Wild Wings one night, watch the trivia play. Women know nothing. They're empty headed as a brown paper bag you burp into.

God and it's worse via text, the preferred means of her having many empty headed conversations at the same time.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ask any female a question of any depth and they'll run off, "creeped out". Lolz

They can be intelligent, but not intellectual.

[–]redbarrister1 1 points1 points [recovered]

As a professor, how can you in good conscience pass your female students, knowing full well they barely possess the wherewithal to feed and clothe themselves appropriately? You catalyze empowered femcunts as worthless and inane as your fatass harpy moron wife who refuses you your due obedience. She has the power to completely Denali you because of professors just like yourself who looked beyond her “one trick pony” rote memorization skills despite her being a complete fucking ignoramous otherwise, and who gifted her with the keys to the castle: a dignified high paying career that dusts the earning capacity of her Master and husband. Do you allow your daughter to humiliate you too? Are your female children as noxious ly ambitious as your you radfemcunt wife? Your story rips my heart out bro. I destroyed the little girls who had the audacity to vie for their MD in my Med school cohort. We ran them out on a rail forged by their own intellectual inferiority. It isn’t hard to do. You simply shine a white hot spotlight on their feeble thought processes and they run with their tail between their legs. I fail to see how you can so stridently preach trp yet fail to enact measures that are congruent with your beliefs.

[–]redd_reality 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Girls are losers

Only because in your nievity you compare women to male standards of success.

By that logic, you're an ugly fucking ogre. I mean, compared to the vast majority of women, it's true. So am I, even despite my chiseled jaw line.

The bitter beta loves to criticize women regarding them as inferior males in intellect, strength, integrity and honor. And while this is true, generally, it points to one MASSIVE flaw the bitter beta might want to take note of asap.

Before you can truly game women, game society and game other men, you have to actually apply TRP. TRP is an objective lens. You must view women for what and who they are, you must view beta men for what and who they are and (arguably) most importantly, you must view alpha men for what and who they are.

Beta men, women and alpha men are not comparable to one another. Clearly all three live by and are judged by different standards.

So stop hating on women for not being alpha men. Believe me, you wouldn't want women to be alpha men, because they would be extremely masculine and use your beta ass as a punching bag - kind of how every single movie produced frames every female character in 2018; but I digress.

A more productive pursuit would be hating on yourself for not being an alpha man, but that wouldn't be a very good post, would it?

Another more productive pursuit would be to write a post criticizing women for not living up to feminine standards, as that is their imperative.

[–]BetaBitchBoy69 4 points5 points  (0 children)

lmao “dispite my chisled jawline” smh 🤦‍♂️

[–]Usemi5325 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Read the post next time instead of the headline, OP addressed that one should not view women the same as one would view men.

[–]LouisSeaGays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fact you gaf makes you the biggest loser of them all.

[–]tolerantman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The ugly girls have even less personality than the pretty girls, ugly girls join together on mobs composed of only ugly girls and they all think the same and do the same stupid shit, and are always bitter and angry about everything.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've never met a woman with an ounce of intellectual curiosity. They simply don't give a fuck. If they ever seem interested in something it is usually more of a social proof type thing.

[–]lacinyc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know, this isn’t something I necessarily agree with. Granted I’ve met girls who get by on looks and looks alone, but I know plenty of girls who are attractive and still hugely productive in other aspects of their life - and not just by virtue of said looks, but also intellectually. It all depends on the social circles you reside in.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't disagree, but what makes you so amazing, "L0wD0g"?

You're good at making reddit posts.....?

[–]enkae7317 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know a girl who does basically nothing all day but watch TV dramas, go on facebook/instagram, and play with her dog.

She's a solid 8+.

It's quite hilarious if you think about it.

[–]drkinferno72 2 points3 points  (1 child)

She only loses when she's forced to settle

[–]Cross_De_Lena 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nice observation.

Just listen to their conversation when they meet with their girlfriends. Only gossip.

[–]diMT-13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mate I think it’s a strange loophole you’re manipulating yourself into. If all you want is casual sex, then do make sure that you keep someone intellectually stimulating because otherwise, well, you are who you surround yourself with, and this is no jokes. You also seem to have a strange relationship with what accounts as the perfect female for you, by seemingly despising and thinking as inferior the very type you seem to lust after, a conflict which, if left unchecked, may lead to problems down the line. Thirdly, your knowledge is sourly limited, by I don’t know what interaction. I’ve seen loads of pretty females with actual personalities, but then again you don’t seem to be interested in those.

[–]Lambdal7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes there are some women like that, but this theory fails for any law, business, medical, science student pretty much, which are a significant portion of women.

[–]Andgelyo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Girls are fucking losers. Most guys are fucking losers. All we can do is keep fighting to become the top 10% (not even 20% to me) of men.

[–]Jonlife 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All they have to offer is pussy and headaches. At least before they used to make you a sandwich in between bitching

[–]Lateralanouncer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

An attractive woman has no biological reason to perform in any way. She can have a shit personally and be a broke ass bitch so long as she doesn’t hit the wall to hard will be fine. This is where the red pill has it correct, men have a biological reason to be the best we can. Strive in all areas of our live. if we don’t we will hit 30-40 and be nothing. No body will help you. Only u can help yourself.

[–]DickyDurbin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Takeaway here is be a winner

[–]Blueu2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yes. Dear Lord have I seen this all too often.

[–]victor_knight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some would argue that self-improvement, in itself, is a myth.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The key is to find a girl that can offer more. The issue is that beauty and intelligence are usually an inverse relationship.

[–]CommunistFesto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. This boosted my confidence a whole lot! XD

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good post, one thing I realized when learning the red pill was that you should have the mindset of women needing YOU and never the other way around. And it's true, bitches are pretty and all but in the end they NEED men

[–]HandsomeCub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're not your possessions.

This means no relationship security. You cannot depend on women like things you own. You can depend on yourself, because you own yourself. This prescribes seeing women as auxillary to your life, like a dessert you can live without if need be. Most importantly, us men and our male sexuality dont get to be possessed, if we are to play by the same rules.

This feels very MGTOW. Awesome post!

[–]-Tepes 1 points1 points [recovered]

I was with you. And I would put it as Shes just another Girl, Just Another Little Slut Likely. Always One Around the Corner

Nothing more, nothing less. They're not your possessions.

  1. Not My Possessions? Sounds like a CUCK thing to say.
  2. Do I want a gutter whore or a water slide as my Possession? No.
  3. A lot of guys here got their end game as the older Marriage type of deal or in back of their mind, the white picket fence and all that shenanigans.

Far as I am concerned, man is king, his possession is whatever he wishes, Its this recent liberal post WW2 shits that gotten to ya folks, Even if its a Water Slide of the conquered tribes who were too weak and open, as society today in west is, crumbling.

One mans Garbage, Another Mans Treasure

  • There will always be some cuck to take her in till there isn't any.
  • Most guys are just a BJ away from going Beta Bucks.

So wise up fellas. She better be your possession if you want to start something with her, and dont you go around possessing aids ridden or cum dripping former cock carousel sluts or post wall chicks vice versa*

  1. Its Just your Turn, YOU DONT WANT HER TO BE YOURS.
  2. If its YOURS, Means You OWN It.
  3. Usually Shes just another girl, dont take her seriously, most girls are just as big losers as the Betas they have to end up with. So always remember, there is always another around the corner long as you dont let her get too close to ya.

[–]punkrockfishboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The average woman is a ditz. Pretty girls are mostly for fucking.

[–]Hugh_Munghous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m always blown away by the fact that women never really seem to have any hobbies. Granted not all men have hobbies, but it seems like most do. When you ask a woman what she likes doing (watching movies, hanging out with friends, going out, etc.) you rarely get anything that resembles an actual cultivated interest. Though sometimes if you’re lucky you get some bullshit answer like “photography,” i.e. taking pictures of tree leaves.

[–]ptdorf 1 points1 points [recovered]

All women are "losers" because they want to. They crave that.

Due to how their brains are hardwired, their decision process is so intense that they really just need a man to step up and put his foot down so they can relax. So they can return to be their natural, vulnerable selves. They want to maintain some sort of pseudo control, mostly over the fluffy things. But they really want the man to do the heavy lifting.

Even successful women in power jobs want to come home to a guy that will shoulder the responsibility.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of the guys i know at least have a hobby or field of interest, while the girls entire lives revolve around stupid memes, instagram pics, tv shows, etc. No skills, no goals, no interest in knowledge or learning, just 'ooh, drag race is on' or 'aaron paul had a baby'.

[–]emptythatcup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assume if you are only surrounded by unproductive, unmotivated except nice looking girls whose sole focus is their looks, then it's easy to come to this conclusion that girls are shallow. but this can pretty much apply to both genders, it's not that girls are shallow, it's the people you surrounded yourself with, that you interact mostly with, makes you come to this conclusion. my point being that if you find yourself seeing nothing worthy of most girls other than their looks, maybe you should consider surround yourself with different groups of people. and of course, doing this is not an easy thing, you need to improve yourself first, heighten your socio-economic level, before you can get into that high-functioning group of people. that's if that's what want, to see behind your current limitation, to not be bored by the low-valued people you now are confined to.

[–]hugaddiction 0 points1 point  (8 children)

I agree with a lot of this, but imo, its harder as a guy to truly understand this and live by it, than it is to read it and technically understand it. Until you see first hand through experience the extent of how meaningless their lives are in their 20's, you can't really see them for who they are.

Outside of partying, looking good, basic mindless entertainment in the form of tv, magazines, and spending money, you will not find much more going on. And generally the more interesting they are, the less attractive they are, because at some point they realized in order to get male attention they were going to have to develop interest in a male interest category, or a skill that they were good at and would set them apart from other women in the SMP.

A great way to remind yourself of how much depth a girl is lacking, log onto her instagram. If its full of travel photos and activities and friends, she has some substance, if its full of selfies and pictures of her doing things in her normal life, then she is self centered and has nothing going for her other than her looks.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (7 children)

If its full of travel photos and activities and friends, she has some substance

Oh yes. Lotta substance in that.

[–]Andgelyo 1 point2 points  (3 children)

95% of girls on social media put travel photos though lmao

[–]hugaddiction 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i live in a tiny place with a lot of people that never leave. Many of the attractive girls just have a wall of selfies. Thats what IM conplaining about.

[–]Andgelyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to get out of there my dude. On the other hand you wanna switch places? I’m from the NJ and NYC area and everyone here are fucking assholes and the girls are absolute entitled whales. The only good thing is the amount of abundance here, but hands down the most feminine and beautiful girls I’ve seen where from suburban and rural environments.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly what I said.

It's part of the normie-hen preening ABC — to word it kindly.

They can go no further than hen-see-hen-do, and of course it can't be but silliness.

[Made no mistake: serious pics of real travels shared not to strut like peahens are totally legit. But that's not the case of females... "Travel" was in origin a male sort of adventure, and a genuine experience made for the travel itself.

Social media & hen-minds have turned it into an item of mode: like clothes and dresses, a new one every year must be shop-windowed, not to be left behind in the henratrace.

To word it kindly :)]

[–]hugaddiction 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I agree with you, and the other comment, its still showing off competition bullshit, but I would rather spend time with the girl that has the drive to take her female competition to the next level, and doesn't solely rely on selfies and ass shots to keep her ego in tact. In your opinion what is the idea ration of selfies and other pics?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Are you considering LTRs or fuck buddies/lays?

For 1), I'd screen out anyone who does any silly things on FB (as long as you want something more than a conglomerate of flesh with a vagina)

for 2) their social media doesn't matter

[–]waldo888 0 points1 point  (0 children)

except that nearly every single girl gets to reproduce and only like 75% of men do. So I guess if success is having some worldly knowledge you can lord over them then ya , men are gods. hahahaha

[–]hdosnxbjdjeb 0 points1 point  (1 child)

All we have to do now is be attractive enough and fucking LIFT to get the hot girl

[–]WalterEArmstrong 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can't be a dullard. A woman wants a man who has some spark, energy, dynamism.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had a chuckle at the water slide part. Very valuable observations, great post.

[–]DR_JDUBZ -1 points0 points  (1 child)

If I ever have sex it will not be with a girl who has intelligence equivalent to that of a monkey (such a thing may as well be known as beastiality) or is so shallow as to think ghosting is an acceptable practice.

[–]zealanderx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOOOOOOOOL

This guy is in for some real pain-

[–]XanderS311 -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

The amount of times that I have listened to a conversation between two young women and wanted to vomit at the banality of it. This old adage has never been more apt:

Great minds discuss ideas Average minds discuss events Small minds discuss people

[–]hisbirdness 10 points11 points  (1 child)

The funny thing about that quote is that it was said by a woman.

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