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Field ReportBe prepared to walk away from anybody. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Redpilledaccordingly

6 months back, I was somewhat “Alpha” but still had beta qualities relating to my friends. I was going through that strange phase where the relatability between you and your beta friends is distancing. They fucking sense your studness and your transformation, which turns into cognitive dissonance which then turns into vehement hate. The vehement hate manifesting into them doing feminine shit like passive-aggressive comments, men-gossip, shit-talking. Inviting me less and less to places. I reacted how a bitch would react around her abusive, serial cheating bf Chad. I took their shit, all because I was drawn to idea of having a “squad”.

One particular day, something came over me. While I was sitting uninvolved in their group discussion, I felt my inner Tyler Durden disgusted with myself. I stood up and just walked away. Unflinching and unresponsive. Communication from them was thoroughly cut. A deep sense of loneliness ensued before I found a new squad to kick with, but retrospectively, it was the best decision I made. The toxicity released. Now, regarding my new friends, I do not expect undying loyalty from them or anything much for that matter. If they start pulling feminine bullshit, I can cut them out like they never existed. Never again.


[–]suckinfishboy 165 points166 points  (9 children)

yea man. beta friends dont like to see someone grow up. they like to keep everyone down in the dirt

[–]Quantumfanatic 18 points19 points  (4 children)

I think I have some beta friends...

[–]mrdoubleornothing 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I would actually expect better insight into male relationships in this sub. You need to lead your friends. If you're just being bossy, arrogant and dominating, like you are with women, they'll never follow you and they'll just dismiss you as an asshole and throw shit back at you. Other men usually don't want to be dominated, they want someone to follow for benefit. You need to provide them with some value for being your friend or else it'll never work out between you.

Take some initiative. Invite them to things you know they like and make it your show. Make them feel like they're lucky they know you. If you thought women were easy to manipulate, boy are you in for treat when you realize how ridiculously easy it is with men.

[–]daremeboy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Men understand value, and far better than women do. If you bring value to your male relationships, they will follow you to the ends of the earth. Value means action, not mere words.

[–]brawlingpanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can lead a horse to the water, but can't make it drink. Some people aren't ready for the red pill and for sure resent you. I feel the redpill is a journey a individual must stumble upon themselves.

[–]Starfuckingman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh yes you do. There are rare good-willed beta friends though who wouldn't hate on you if you play it right. I like that kind of people and try to support them through my character and physical strength.

[–]riot2100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can confirm this, I did exactly what you said to a friend before I began the process of reversing my beta traits. He was going to hang out with a hot girl and smoke some weed. We all convinced him that it was just the weed she wanted, not anything else. Now, this could've been true, but at that moment in time I couldn't stand the thought of my friends leaving me in the dust. It seemed everyone else already had, and I couldn't bear to see one of my friends do it also. That was the only reason I agreed with the others. Wouldn't ever do that to a friend now.

[–]Zippy1776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so wide-spread it's scary metaphorically speaking. I've never been able to understand how much fear must be inside the mind of such people to feel threatened by someone who is different. I've been facing it my entire life. I realized I will always choose to cut those people out of my life vs. trying to fit in with a group of people afraid of everything around them.

[–]ananyo007 44 points45 points  (5 children)

I couldn't possibly relate more to this brother.

In med school, you're swimming in a shade of a midsummer morning sky. I had this group of friends, who are the kind of guys who get an intense dopamine rush everytime they happen to bump into the left boob of the 4/10 girl in the group. The hot topic of conversation is teasing this same girl, who is the incidentally the kind to enjoy the constant male attention she gets surrounded by these betas.

In hindsight, it was a tumor metastasizing to all facets of my life, but I stuck around because, I thought I needed people to have lunch with. I always stood out in the group because I didn't belong. But, I thought they were decent. Blue, but decent.

Cue in the semesters, I nail them topping the rest of the class. All of a sudden, these harmless androgynous friend after a period of passive aggressiveness, goes ballistic because suddenly I'm arrogant and too full of myself. He was swinging his skinny arms at me because I telekinetically insulted him and I was backing off trying to cool the situation, while hitting a series of epiphanies.

I decided to quit it. I stopped hanging out with them altogether.

You never realise the magnitude of effect people you surround yourself with, have on your life. Once you cut off people, with a rusty butter knife, slow, enjoying their rustling jimmies, you'd realise how much better you are without the constant feed of their shrill static mediocrity.

Sure, without a squad you'll run into unforeseen complications. But, atleast I'll not have to pretend to smile when my kissless virgin friend jokingly pokes the bff fat girl's thigh as an excuse to touch a girl.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 28 points29 points  (0 children)

This is something that middle school girls actually instinctively understand - you become uncool and whatever the female equivalent of a "kissless nerdy virgin" if you have out around those kids. This is why social groups that are able to effectively hold power and their "cool" status are ruthlessly self-pruning - there's regular falls from grace, rare ascendancy to the top group from other groups, and when there is, the person who joins needs approval of the top bitch.

Don't fuck around hanging out with losers. Betas, sure, you can't avoid hanging out with betas because 95% of men are beta. But you hang out around toxic losers - or even in a group full of individually redeemable people that just happens to have developed a toxic group dynamic (5 beta orbiters around 1 gamer girl for example), then you become a toxic loser too.

Sometimes, the best move really is just to socially climb and hang out with the cool kids.

[–]Augustuscrassus 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Cue in the semesters, I nail them topping the rest of the class. All of a sudden, these harmless androgynous friend after a period of passive aggressiveness, goes ballistic because suddenly I'm arrogant and too full of myself. He was swinging his skinny arms at me because I telekinetically insulted him and I was backing off trying to cool the situation, while hitting a series of epiphanies.

I have a hard time believing you're in med school given how utterly shit your writing is. What the fuck are you saying here?

[–]Senor_Hyde 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed, given the intensity of the curriculum, why would any sane individual waste precious moments surrounding themselves with individuals who have no concept of the value of time.

[–]1dafullyfe 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How do you telekinetically insult someone? Also, who said you need a squad? Sure brotherhood with like minded men is awesome, but look at Debo from Friday. That dude was his own squad all by himself. And he had no problem intimidating beta males, bossing them around.

[–]dabah2014 105 points106 points  (10 children)

All the posters in here claiming “alpha” men should be perfectly content by themselves need to go read “The Way of Men” by Jack Donovan. There is NOTHING in science or evolutionary history that indicates a lone wolf lifestyle is healthy. People in general, and PARTICULARLY men have thrived in packs since the beginning of time. Same goes for animals. Strength is greater is numbers. Obviously choose your friends and relationships wisely. Obviously learn to be as self-sufficient as possible. This seemingly widespread fantasization of the lone-wolf needs to be addressed though. It may be necessary to live as a lone wolf sometimes in life, but it is NEVER optimal from a scientific/evolutionary standpoint and the glorification of it is ridiculous.

[–]Augustuscrassus 28 points29 points  (1 child)

It's obvious why that lifestyle is so appealing. Many of the people who end up here, myself included, have struggled with social interaction for a long time. We all have our various reasons, be it on the autism spectrum or because of a bad childhood. It is the easy way out to just lift, and be a "badass" but not try and make friends.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. Most of the posters here are not going to go to clubs/bars by themselves. Even if you do, people think you're weird if you're not with a group or at least with one other person. No one goes to bars alone, you just come off as a loser with no friends.

Think about the guys you knew in high school or college that got laid easily. Most guys who get laid regularly have big social circles. It is extremely difficult to even meet women outside of your social circle. It is MUCH more difficult to get a girl to go on a date with you if you don't have some sort of social proof to begin with.

[–]markinsinz7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

THIS! Right here! I've been waiting for a post for a very long time some 2 years maybe I even search this subreddit but no one has come up with a real way to go from nothing to having it all, especially if u ain't that good lookin (not talkin about body). A hot guy can get to a new town and within a month will start gettin invites to places. I've met many jacked guys struggling to get to a position like this.

Why? Cause circumstances,social skills n luck play huge factors. But most of all people aint open to meeting new people who dont have anythin goin for them. It's hard for me to illustrate what I'm trying to say clearly. But it always feels like I'm on the outside and the guys even ones that look like me r on the inside all because they grew up in the town or met the right pple in their classes.

-A side solution does appear in that 'have a mission' then people come to u but it ain't that easy having a mission either. Finding ur life purpose takes time, testing n a whole lot of luck too.

[–]roadkill_er 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes. That is what bothers me about MGTOW Philosophy. There Are lots of good things said on that sub, So I Do check up on it, but the Lonewolf life is not sustainable; not sustainable in a healthy way anyways

[–]JamesLucrative 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Packs yes. This is why if any woman speaks I'll of your friends you destroy her confidence right there. The pack has your back, not some bitch. Bros before hoes as the normies say.

This is where mgtow and red pill differs as I don't necessarily think integrating your bitch into your squad will end badly. Good friends anyway. For example my best friend got cheated on and he hasn't completely swallowed the red pill yet. He's no normies, but he's resistant because it hurts to think so little of most other human beings and he's kind of a pussy lol. I could've ruined his girlfriend's life. But he didn't want me too so I didn't. And I made that apparent to her. I also made it apparent that I am my own person and if I REALLY wanted too...I would've done it anyway. I only listen to my friend like 5℅ of the time in his own words lol.

But I did think of her as s friend too. So I said I'll forgive you this time. He'll be fine. He has us. He'll get over it. But don't let me catch you hurting him again as friend or not he is up here and you're down here.

Women won't argue with social hierarchy. They never do. If you make it apparent there is a clear cut hierarchy all they can do is submit or walk.

[–]50red 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's no alpha without the surrounding betas.

[–]newls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just listening to that audiobook made me feel manly and inspired. Recommended.

[–]emaciated_pecan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where does one meet alpha men to befriend?

[–]yomo86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read Donovan and he is not wrong but his premise is flawed. His premise is rooted in biology. Yet, biology does not determine the lives of many men anymore regarding the pack mentality. While I certainly concur that many TRP member have been using this lone wolf mindset as a rationalization the pack mentality is a blatant romanticization of the modern world. You don't need your packs abilities to move forward, what you need are alliances that can be maintained as long as you need them to or broken as it seems fit, therefor be social but not depended. A pack is formed out of necessity maybe even just out of the need to belong somewhere, friends are chosen and based of abstract values.

[–]mmishu 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What advice do you and op have for finding a squad u fit well with? Im off social media its just depressing and i didnt have a traditional education so i have no friends from hs college.

/u/redpilledaccordingly

[–]mytrillosophy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gym or guys you meet from hobbies

[–]S-Blaze 26 points27 points  (7 children)

I had this tight-knit group of friend when I was a 10-14yo kid. We were best buds for a couple years. Second year into high school I had a dark phase with depression and failed my grade as my friends moved on to the next grade. New kid join our squad, he was alright at first but we clashed often and slowly and surely he mocked me behind my back and turned them agaisnt me with gossip and shit. One day I said fuck it and cut all communication with them. The next morning I sat with a new group of friends with zero explanation but I knew they understood.

When we bumped into each others years later they always treated me with great respect and interest and I was amiable but I never returned the desire to hang out with them. Be wise not an asshole but dont take shit from anyone and don't hang out with people that bring you down. Better ''alone'' than with bad company.

[–]zyqkvx 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Better ''alone'' than with bad company.

Woman who break up are dating someone new the next day/week because they attract enough to do so. It's better to be alone than with bad company. It's also extremely important to make enough of yourself (build how attractive you are) that when you purge shitty people from your life and you are standing there alone, that you are already in position (attractive) to make the friends you want (climb [out of your bucket]).

[–]S-Blaze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Indeed. An attractive loner is an intriguing mystery, a self-neglected loner is a ''loser''.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

How do you just jump around between groups of friends?

It's always been hard for me to join new social circles, is there some kinda trick to it?

[–]Adam1394 4 points5 points  (1 child)

  1. Be likable.

  2. Don't be unlikable.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but just going up and talking to people doesn't automatically make me apart of their group.

That hasn't been my experience ever.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem3 0 points1 point  (1 child)

sometimes you have to be humble enough to say I looking for a wingman or i'm new to town and trying to meet people OR just let's grab a beer sometime...you'd be surprised on how you can make friendships over that beer(s)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I come from an alcoholic household so I don't drink, but I'll try to figure something out.

Thanks for the advice

[–]RedLegendx 152 points153 points  (23 children)

An Alpha doesn’t need company from anyone, he can literally do anything by himself and be happy. That includes family, lovers, friends, acquaintances.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 143 points144 points  (11 children)

Be wary of the "lone wolf" ideal.

Alpha/beta by definition imply a hierarchy. The defining trait of hypergamy is that women want to fuck the man at the top of the dominance hierarchy. Power is a matter of hierarchy. Your value/worth as a man for other humans is entirely relying on the benefits you have on their life.

The badass lone wolf lifestyle sounds cool and can be used to pull chicks if played well, but is not necessarily the best way to maximize your power in life. The part about "not needing company" is what's important. Your ideal is that "You don't need company... but you still have a social life and still are ontop of the dominance hierarchy".

[–]AlKhat 40 points41 points  (2 children)

This comes to mind: "Law 18: Do Not Build Fortresses To Protect Yourself Isolation Is Dangerous"

[–]newls 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Corollary. Make yourself the centre like Louis the Sun King.

Establish an order where all power must come through you.

You can't be everywhere, but you can have loyal spies in every part of the machine.

[–]markinsinz7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So much more easier said than done. Come on its really fuckin hard to even come close to this place in life unless I'm understanding it wrong.

If I got it right all this 'power thru u' comes from having 'critical' leverage that allows one to actually have power. A big guy has size as leverage, a well connected guy ...so on. To go from a nothin to having some leverage is what's the hard part and a problem that I don't see being solved here

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This. The need between "need" and "want" needs to be addressed.

[–]itsjustsimon- 13 points14 points  (3 children)

women want to fuck the man at the top of the dominance hierarchy

First, this is debatable. I would say woman want to fuck men who are on the top of gene dominance hierarchy, anything else is just a transaction.

Second, 90% of socializing is bullshit small talk and nothing else. Make yourself competent in some area that you can contribute in a big way and it can land you on the top. Simply socializing will do nothing.

[–]Redagogue 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Huh? It is called social proof, and it very much causes women to reevaluate your attractiveness. A guy who is at the apex of the social group necessarily implies competence, and the respect you get from your group short circuits the need for women to evaluate your alpha status. Having the respect of lesser men makes it obvious to women from a hypergamy standpoint who is going to be an upgrade for them.

No need to sour grapes social dominance.

[–]newls 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Think he meant yes they want to fuck the top Brad Pitt but they will contently settle for the hot cool confident guy who approached them at the bar.

[–]itsjustsimon- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, is woman fucking you because it elevates her social status or is she fucking you just because she actually enjoys it? It's an ancient debate, so I won't go there, but it's something to keep in mind when simply saying: "social status/money/social proof/being alpha" will make you more attractive. My opinion: No, it wont make your more attractive, but it will make her chase your approval more, which can (sometimes) result in sex.

[–]RedLegendx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is true but I didn’t say being alpha means that you always want and prefer being alone, it’s a way of life that no matter what, company or not you’re happy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm the lone wolf type who has played it well and I have to agree with you. Before I was married I had traveled the world by myself, worked out 2x a day for 6 days a week and was top 10% in the looks department.

The result was that I had some experiences that were on both ends of the bell curve, but I married a unicorn young and never lived the way that some of the guys here are doing it.

[–]WacksTobacks 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Not sure I agree with this. No matter how confident you are, you'll always want a connection and someone to share life with. It's not a sign of weakness, or "beta-ness". The fact of the matter is that no one has any fucking clue to what's going on, and we'd rather not be alone in our mortality.

[–]S-Blaze 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Right an alpha/sigma doesn't need company to be happy but we need connections to thrive in the world.

[–]roadkill_er 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Sigma? I’ve never heard that term

[–]YGDieciseis 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Someone can describe it better than me but its an alpha with a smidge of beta. The person I've seen it most compared to is James Bond. Strong, suave, independent but has a tendency to get emotionally attached.

[–]Minshull17 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My understanding is that where an Alpha is top of the social pyramid so to speak, a Sigma is outside of it, they reject the hierarchy altogether

[–]obey_kush 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Says the legend when you are Alpha enough, there is a point you don’t need a woman anymore because you can get pregnant by yourself.

Having total hormonal changes

A full masculine pregnant belly

This is the original Alpha “independency”

No one talks about this...

[–]newls 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think we could do with more explanation on that lol

[–]maplemaximus 18 points19 points  (2 children)

A man should always be able to be a lone wolf. Being a loner shouldn't be glorified, but "squads" are unnecessary to hang around with often. If you do have a squad, hang out every other time.

[–]newls 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Point is to be okay with being alone. It's not an ideal state but toughness of character is all about handling the tough times with the easy.

Purposefully put yourself through adversity to train yourself.

Cold showers, try something you're afraid of, lift heavy weights.

[–]BullshittingNonsense 22 points23 points  (11 children)

How do you get a group of Bros to kick it with? I feel like so much is coed these days.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 15 points16 points  (6 children)

When you grow up past the college / "young coworkers who do everything together and drink after work" phase of life, you have to shift your mentality from "finding a group of bros to kick it with" to "assembling my own group."

You take control, you cultivate your relationships and people and by bringing people together, you build a pack. You're the cool guy, you're bridging people together.

For example a 101 example if you have a few acquintances divided amongst 2 groups, maybe invite 1-2 guys from A and B to get drinks after work, and then they get to know each other two. You're bringing value to people. You're the guy who isn't just friends with the employee to the right and to the left; you're getting to know people across different departments and bringing them together to do some lowkey fun shit.

You have to build your circle, you don't just get one - and if you build it, you have control over who's in it and control over the social dynamics.

[–]Augustuscrassus 6 points7 points  (5 children)

It's hard though man. When you get 30 and older it becomes hard to find dudes who aren't solely focused on the woman in their life.

I'm 27 now. Most of the guys that I meet through clubs and sports teams are: A) getting married B) already married or C) settling down with their "sweetheart."

The other aspect is the "cliqueiness" of where I live. It feels next to impossible to break into friend groups once you get a certain age. Most people here are friends with the people they went to grade school with. School isn't really an option because I'm 27 and they're much younger. I have a fair number of acquaintances, but no close friends to really go out with. It's obviously not impossible, just very difficult to break in as an outsider in my small city.

Not making excuses for myself or anyone else. It is next to impossible as an adult to "assemble your own group." There is a harsh reality about adulthood that people transitioning into "settling down" no longer want to spend time with the people who aren't.

This comment is setting up unrealistic expectations of what adult life is like. Only the very rich and famous get to do what you're describing. So few people are important enough to be able to curate their own social circle. Bare in mind I've always struggled with forming relationships in general so it may just be me.

[–]zyqkvx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not making excuses for myself or anyone else. It is next to impossible as an adult to "assemble your own group." There is a harsh reality about adulthood that people transitioning into "settling down" no longer want to spend time with the people who aren't.

Even the easiest path to something worthwhile is hard, like starting to lift. You'll feel lost, you feel fake, you feel 'way behind', but it's the easiest, quickest path to attracting and being accepted by others.

So really, IMO, the notion of "assembling my own group" is a redpill trait not talked about enough.

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm older. Have a fair number of acquaintances, a LTR, and not any close friends, really. I'm not interested in friendship with most people I know, I'm not interested in doubling down in to any of the social circles I'm part of. So the shortest path looks to start from scratch (like lifting) and build my own.

[–]TsuGhoul 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'm 27 now

I used to live at a residential college across from uni, 90% of people were 18-21 if not more. The Residential Club president was a 27 year old guy (might have even been 28 or 29) who was friends with the vast majority of the 750 residence and was the life of every party that he himself was hosting as president.

27 is definitely not too late

[–]Augustuscrassus 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You skimmed over my comment and picked out one thing. Missing the part where I said it's incredibly difficult to break into social circles where I live.

Secondly. I have a full-time job, take 3 courses to finish my undergrad, play two sports (soccer/football), go to the gym, and volunteer. I barely have time in my week to study let alone try and socialize.

My comment was to point out that this sub often sets completely unrealistic expectations for people. The biggest one is "if you're 35 you can be banging hot 20 year olds. Just be alpha bro." Those positions that the guy in your story had, are incredibly hard to get. You have to be involved with school stuff from the time you are in school.

Not to say that it can't be achieved. But at my age, with the poor financial decisions I have made, I'm just trying to finish up school so that I can get a good job. Maybe if I found TRP 10 years ago before I wasted my youth we could be different. I'm just trying to survive like most people.

I don't make many friends and never have. I was pointing out from my perspective that you need a social circle or it's going to be like training at 1000x earths gravity.

[–]cyrutvirus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It is not incredibly difficult to break from social circles, nor does it matter where you live. You just dont want to put up with the consequences that come with breaking from a social circle and integrating into another one ...

[–]Augustuscrassus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol you don't know where I live. Since I don't really have a social circle there isn't much in the way of consequences. I mean it might just be me. Although I've had this conversation qith a few people from out of province and many of them share the same opinion.

Never really had friends. Some people just don't fit in man. At this point I no longer care. People like me well enough. I guess I just don't wow them, which is perfectly ok with me. I might not be swimming in pussy but that's life.

[–]Work_ln_Progress 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Traditionally masculine hobbies. Join a motorcycle club, go rock climbing, learn a martial art, join the army reserve. Almost impossible to not get bros doing those things.

[–]Redpilledaccordingly[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Parties mostly. If you do not have bros to attend with, I invite a girl and go. I drink, chat everyone up. Dance and have fun.

[–]newls 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Parties are fun but amateur team sports are the best imo. Everyone's riding a testosterone wave and it's all about team effort not the individual.

It's like the army, best way to form camaraderie is in the face of adversity against a common enemy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Join an MMA gym

[–]SlainFunicle 9 points10 points  (0 children)

when you start to grow betas will try to keep you down

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[–]Augustuscrassus 7 points8 points  (5 children)

he's the kinda guy who tells you female soccer is just as good as male soccer with a straight face

I have a few buddies that play in the local top division, and on the varsity team at my school. I remember shooting the shit with a couple of them about how awful women's soccer is. If you try and explain to a woman why women's soccer is garbage they just call you sexist. They can't even comprehend the world of difference between their sport and the men's.

I've been playing/watching since I was 5 years old. I remember talking to my sister who played at the varsity level years ago. She didn't know what I was talking about when I talked about playing the "10" or the "9." She thought I was lying when I told her numbers used to be assigned by position. She had no clue what a center-half was or what a fullback was.

Trust me. Women's soccer, is fucking awful.

[–]thegymismysanctuary 10 points11 points  (2 children)

UK bro here. The media here have started reporting on women's football (soccer) without specifically referring to the fact it's women (i.e. "Spain beat Germany 3-0") in a desperate attempt to make it seem as relevant as the men's game.

Women are not shit, however women's football (soccer) is really fucking shit.

[–]frooschnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What can we expect. The Australia national team got their asses beaten by middle-schoolers.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Just went through the same shit. Glad to hear I’m not alone.

[–]LittiJari 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Same. I had a group of mostly beta friends and one really beta became furiously jealous of me because I started to get too alpha and started to get too much pussy. I can't believe I used to consider him my best friend. Insecure betas are dangerous as fuck.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Insecure betas are dangerous as fuck

This is so true. They try to bring you down to their level because they see you doing well. It’s our job though to distance ourselves.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Especially during the age of 18 - 25, one changes drastically, in almost all facets of live. In my case, that was paired with a rough TRP awakening, which made the choice easier.

Although the analogy with the crab's barrel certainly applies more to a bunch of betas, than an army of alphas, I would not necessarily use the terms alpha and beta in this context; more like 'genuine friend', and 'toxic influence'.

If you ever stand before a decision in your life, the book 'The Alchemist' by Paolo Coelho can be incredibly helpful.

[–]SKRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Crab mentality. You'll be surprised when the petty mentality that keeps people stuck in a rut rears it's head, but that's what will happen.

[–]MrCarepig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its better to be alone than in bad company. Blue pill guys are like women basically. What a shame that the vast majority is blue this modern feminized society. Although looking at the brightside i believe having red pill values gives you an edge from everyone else in most aspects of life. Youre an adult in a giant baby society.

[–]martinko1337 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Lol this sounds so badass, did your inner Tyler also urge you to buy a nee fedora

[–]cowboyfromhell324 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Patrice would quote Heat... 30 seconds or less

[–]hero707 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are the bestest person's

[–]vitamann 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not just about the Alpha/Beta relationship. Once you hit college, your high school buddies will thin out, interests change. Even as adults, when going up the money ladder, our circles change.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I keep a few friends only, but they're tight. Two childhood friends that live in another city. Both are blue collar and basically naturally alpha/sigma (neither knows about TRP)

My brother in law (from my sister that died years ago). He's a few years older than me, single, runs his own business. An alcoholic, but also very alpha. A mentor in a good way.

My Jiu-Jitsu buddies. Only the inner circle of that group. Ni need to really say so, but generally Alpha AF.

Keep betas away unless you're getting something from them

[–]plascra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who you mix with is a reflection of who you are.

[–]yummyluckycharms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ah sigh - this chestnut again. Like the flat earth society that refuses to die, this myth along with no fap keep popping up for no good reason. I suspect its because it helps posters feel better about poor decisions.

Look....who you hang out with has no relation to whether or not you are alpha or beta. An accomplished person will have friends from all walks of life - some are criminals, some are geeks, some are high powered financiers. Having a friend that steals cars doesnt make me a criminal, just as hanging out with an up and coming politician doesnt mean I've got the gift of the gab. But what it does mean is that you have access to skills and resources from across a wide spectrum of society through said friendships.

Also, I would be extremely creeped out by a person who didnt have a diverse group of friends. As it implies that either you either you transplanted yourself into a new society and have zero history there or you've been cutting friends away like a surgeon as you grew up. Neither of which suggests that you would be the ideal person to form a long lasting friendship with

[–]1dafullyfe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can confirm some beta dudes hate more than gossiping women. Whether you're pursuing goals, meeting hot women, getting money, working out, or just feeling good, not every male friend in your life is going to be happy about it.

The hate manifests in different ways. It could small shit like dudes gossiping about you behind your back and shake your hand, cock blocking, trying to fuck your girl, to way more serious shit like robbery, setting you up to get jumped, to even calculated murder. That's why it's always good to watch your friends and leave emotional, envious, beta males "friends" behind.

[–]universalabundance1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh look who has manned up. ;)

Good post.

[–]kaane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a very similar experience 7-8 years ago. At that time I was angry and thought that I did the right thing by walking away. Now I read your post and I remember that time. I can see that I was hurt but this doesn't change the fact that I was right.

I had a group of friends from college. We had such good times together when we were studying. After our graduation, they all started getting into LTRs and getting married. One particular day, I told them that I needed their support and specifically reminded them that this would be a boys meeting and they shouldn't bring their GFs.

Later it turns out that they were coming with their women because they couldn't leave them behind. I didn't go to the gathering and that was the last time I planned something with that group.

We are all misirable right now. But at least I have a piece of mind and don't have to carry a fat slob wherever I go

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Great post! I've kicked all the pussies I know to the curb. Did it before the election. You stand with Donald, or go to hell!!!!