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MetaThe #MeToo movement is a beta trap - no more threads about it (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by ∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt

MOD NOTE

We've already have enough threads on the subject and I want this to be the last one for a while. Enough with the topic, it's time to move onto more productive subjects.


The entirety of the #MeToo movement is one giant beta trap. The more you take it seriously, the more you're going to be suckered into getting hung up on what women say they want vs what they actually respond to.

The thread equivocating those Hollywood stars fucking guys like Weinstein to Nazi war brides is spot on. Those women had a choice to not fuck the Hollywood bigwigs, but they did it anyway for the fame it could lead to. In other words they prostituted themselves trading sex for what would become money by way of a lucrative career. Do not pity them.

This thread is a good treatise on projection by leftists and why you can't take the subject too seriously as it's full of FUD. When liberals talk about a subject like this, odds are they're really talking about how they feel deep down and would probably behave behind closed doors.

And finally this thread digs into the false rape accusation the Men's Rights types are all too familiar with. This ties into the first thread as it is largely wrapped around excusing women's shitty behavior, and also beta trapping society into excusing women's actions that may have led to them being hit on by betas or accidentally fucking them now and then.

In conclusion I think we've had enough talk about this subject for a while. New threads will be deleted on the spot. If you do wish to discuss the topic further, do so in one of the existing threads or comment below.


[–][deleted] 136 points137 points  (22 children)

Amen.

Back in early October I commented on the Weinstein/Hollywood "thing" under the post titled,"Were all failing a new shit test all over again"......

Stop using Hollywood as a parable/example/compass.

First, it's pathetic. Who gives a shit what some vapid slut did or didn't do to some fat producer?

Just stop. It's embarrassing. You're buying right into the hype/story/drama. Just stop.

Secondly, Hollywood people self select. They actually want to be popular and famous. Above all. Think about that for a second. They're broken. Morally bankrupt. They don't think like normal people. A distinct subset of people.

They'll do virtually anything for it. No shame. It's actually weirdly interesting to see humans that focused on a goal.(There's a rabbit hole here I'm going to step over.) Transactional quid pro quo abounds. It has since hot actresses found out they'd get the part if they sucked the fat producers dick. The casting couch is an enduring meme because it's true. Been happening in movies since there were movies.

Weinstein's not a creep, he was just playing the game. Guess how many of those self-virtuous morally bankrupt cunts have killed their career by jumping on this particular bus. If you throw down your cards and say..."Out! I'm not playing by these holdem rules anymore!" at the poker table after winning big money for 10 years, you're not getting your seat back. Ever.

But guess how many of those same cunts wouldn't even had a seat at the table in the first place if they hadn't blown some moneyman for the address? Playing the game. Round round we go.

Sex for benefit has been happening since there was life. "You swallow sticky happy juice, I not let sabretooth eat you."

Hollywood people do this daily, only turned up to 11.

Third, Talking about the drama gives the drama life. Like the bitchy feminist that wants you to debate her on the tired old .77c : dollar injustice, the best thing you can do is walk away. Takes two to argue. If you walk away it's just a crazy bitch ranting to herself.

It's the idea of an easy target. Sloppy thirsty betas that roll over and expose their soft fat bellies at the first harsh word are not worth anyones' time...not a fair nor enjoyable fight... like winning a debate against the Down syndrome kids, it's a hollow victory. No valor in that. Alphas who don't give a fuck what some angry fat bluehaired feminist cunt thinks will simply not provide any target at all by not engaging whatsoever and just avoid said cunts completely. No victory if there's no combatant. It's the middle ground where the hamstering validation occurs. Enough fight to get excited or even a "win", but it's not a real challenge because your opponent has already lost by being dumb enough to engage in the first place.

[–]saibot83 28 points29 points  (4 children)

I watched a movie from freaking 1933 yesterday and there were constant allusions to the casting couch in it. This has been industry standard forever. Nothing will change. It's probably safe to assume all famous people (past and modern day) gave up the ass at some point on the way up. #Metoo is a joke. Especially in that business. They ALL knew and profited when it was convenient.

[–]goober_boobz 16 points17 points  (0 children)

All things aside, they knew. They knew the history of Hollywood from Dorothy Dandridge to Anna Nicole Smith, all these women have done their homework and still showed up for the final exam spread eagle. The ugly truth is women feel shame on after realizing their demoralizing behaviour did not result in a movie role or opportunity. A prostitute would call rape the minute some "John" stiffed her on the bill. Sure there are victims of rape both male and female, but victim cherry picking and white knighting won't bring a balance to the force.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I am an old movie buff, what movie was that?

[–]VickVaseline 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Morning Glory" with Katharine Hepburn?

[–]PM_ME_UR_HOT_SELF 7 points8 points  (11 children)

To say Weinstein was just playing the game or vindicating him is to say we should all act like him.

The fact is if he he threw his power around and couldn't keep frame... He jerked off into a potted plant after chasing a journalist, and now the LAPD is about to press charges.

Just keep this in mind, the women for a lot of their times obviously could of not dealt with him, but no man should be the kind of person women overall think are predators.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 11 points12 points  (1 child)

is to say we should all act like him.

Wow, that's an incredible leap of logic there. I will NEVER act like him.

he threw his power around

And there was a long line of mouths that wrapped themselves around his pecker because they knew EXACTLY what they were going to get in return. Sometimes "power" involves swallowing, but these gal certain knew how to get what they wanted from him. Gross and disgusting, yes, but they pulled the lever and got the pellet.

no man should be the kind of person women overall think are predators.

Women love it when I hunt them.

[–]iwasbornred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"women love it when i hunt them"

ya trademark that for sure

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (8 children)

Weinstein used the means available to him to attain his goals. So we all do act like him.

Did the ends justify the means? Sure... lots and lots of young tight ends. He doesn't "deserve" anything.

Was the juice worth the squeeze though? Every individual needs to run that risk:reward ratio.

Stop buying into the hype. u/bsutansalt talks of the "beta trap".... you're caught.

Your gleaming white armor and morals are showing.

[–]brucebannerstailor 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Jesus man, all he said was the dude went a little far. I don’t think you’re being beta by acknowledging making someone watch you beat off into a house plant isn’t a very normal behavior. 100% most of these woman could have easily escaped the situation or just chose to not tuck him, but to blanket everything in that and say he didnt do one fucked up thing is kind of insane. I like to jerk off. Jerking off is a normal behavior. Mutual masturbatiom is a normal behavior. Forcing someone watching you masturbate is just weird.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (6 children)

You fell into the trap too.

I don't follow the tabloid stories, so I just did some (ugh)"research".

She now doesn't remember if he jerked off into a potted plant or a cooking pot. You'd think that if something that terrorizing and graphic scarred you, you'd remember the huge details. Guess what the cops/juries/judges think of witnesses that can't keep their stories straight? Oh wait, he's not on trial. Or charged. Just being libelled.

She didn't leave because she felt "intimidated"? That's the choice she made. You don't like a movie, you walk out and maybe get your money back. You don't write in and sue the studio years later saying it traumatized you but you were too intimidated to leave, but you can't quite remember what the movie title was...

Don't believe everything you read.

Matter of fact, don't believe anything you read coming out of Hollywood labelled "News". There is (surprise) a specific agenda and spin on every article.

Meta ; Pay more attention about how you live your own life and realize that the entertainment industry is just that... Entertainment. Place zero truth in all that is fed to you from them. It's gossip. Feminine and unattractive.

[–]Zelthia 15 points16 points  (2 children)

You can all be as red pilled as you want, but if you think being a creep is “playing the game” you are one of those people who lend legitimacy to the misogyny aspersions cast about TRP.

Sure, the cunts crying wolf are nothing but cunts, had options, took the bad ones, expect us all to excuse their shitty behavior and all the spiel. But not every accused is a poor misunderstood guy who is just playing the game and finds himself fucked because the game is rigged.

Weinstein had shit frame. Or none at all. If you are sitting there thinking “poor guy surrounded by cunts”, and then come here to blast some dude trying to learn about TRP because he is, let’s say, a gamer... you probably have shit frame too.

Excusing a creep because his opponents are cunts does not really say much about you, no matter how much you try to spin it.

[–]brucebannerstailor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

THANK YOU!!! Thought I was losing my mind for a sec

[–]brucebannerstailor 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Ughhh, you can save your speech Mr Literal. I didn’t say I believed anything. I just said the behavior of making someone watch you masturbate is weird, regardless of the truth to any specific story. I’m not defending women, but to say no one committed any weird behavior is odd.

[–]throwawaydefriended 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Weinstein was not "just playing the game". Many here seem to have this idea that he simply used his power of giving movie roles as an ultimatum to get sex. Not that that's cool, but he did a lot more than that. There were supposedly instances where he did force himself, and he did put some in positions where it was impossible for them to escape or nope out. He also blackmailed some of them.

Of course there's always a chance that some of that is false, but those alleged actions are not anything that should ever be encouraged.

[–]Robsgotgirth 1 points1 points [recovered]

Buddy, they have their seat at the table any time - it's you who is obscure and forgotten. I think that this thread sums up TRP pretty well - a centre of reality training for men who need to interact with the world, corrupted by the pathetic far right, MGTOW and Incels, everyone calling themselves Alpha. Maybe it used to serve a purpose, but now? it's truly pathetic, and a bastion of the feeble minded and weak.

[–]Triadis3 1 points1 points [recovered]

So you hate this place?

Then why are you here? Why do you feel the need to comment?

Seems insane to me to come to a sub just to bash the entire purpose of it with kneejerk opinions.

Stupid and arrogant. Bad combination.

Why don't you just leave?

[–]Robsgotgirth 1 points1 points [recovered]

There's a core of truth surrounded by layers of detritus - similar to Jordan Peterson except most of his cognitive biases can be forgiven for not being extreme. The amount of circlejerk and closed rank thinking of this sub is becoming untenable - just the other day I say "We do not criticise the mods" - if you have to censure or bar discussion of central issues, this is a show of weakness, not strength. A real man would remain unconcerned by the metoo movement. It will blow over. Many say "Enjoy the decline of western society" - again, weakness. I'd rather men and women came here to understand and be strong, and not come out repeating the propaganda of Incels and right wing cucks.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 47 points48 points  (7 children)

There is one good thread that's come out of this Weinstein thing and it's the thread about Weinstein himself and how his apex status combined with extreme neediness essentially gollumized him. This is what I would recommend men learn from - try to understand why these celebrities who have money and power beyond your wildest dreams ruin their lives by needing that SPECIFIC girl to suck their dick.

The #metoo, like most things twitter / women cook up, is not worthy of attention. What IS interesting is how as a man you have to develop your own rules to navigate this world, keep your ass in the clear, and mitigate risk while in pursuit of meaningful rewards. What makes a man engage in high risk trades for a meaningless reward (ie some hollywood 8 jerking their dick off as the reward, and the risk being career implosion, rumors, ruined reputation, money, having to pay settlements and legal, etc.

Why? Really, why the fuck do men do this, what is it about power, what is it about obsession, fixation, greed, and infantilism that turns powerful men into gollums?

This is something I urge people to try to understand. The "GIMME! I WANT IT" psychology of guys like Weinstein who just have to have the girl that doesn't want them. If anything, this whole 2017 being the year of the sexual assault and ruined celebrities has made me think a lot about my own conduct with women at my job. What risks am I taking, how important is having specific pussy in the overall grand scheme of my life?

How important is it to me to bust through that LMR? How badly do I really want to fuck her just because she's new or she's the "it" girl within my clique and I want to be the guy that smashed first?

I understand the mods decision to shut down this topic, but this is really an important moment for TRP, and it's a moment of reflection. Most people are reflecting on society and women, which is fine but ... you know, it's the same as always, water is wet, the sky is blue.

When stupid shit happens in the world, you might as well learn from it.

[–]evilmonster 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Finally someone voiced my thoughts. I've read TRP and it's theories, and I have benefited a lot, but in the end, I'm not a Red Piller and I do not identify as one. I only identify as evilmonster and whatever theories I subscribe to.

OP talked about not taking the #metoo movement too seriously, and how it's a trap, but I've always thought that TRP is already in the trap of taking women too seriously. In terms of sheer benefit to society, I think MRA is better than TRP, because, in my opinion, TRP is already under the spell of the very thing it is trying to control, i.e. women.

MRA is the one trying to break free from the control of women and remain truly independent, whilst TRPers are opportunists and going with the flow rather than creating lasting change.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That's because you don't understand the content and that for all intents and purposes your attempts to change surface level conflict is merely participating in Marxist psuedoconflict that will never resolve itself, as such conflict is cyclical and inherent as a manifestation of the fitness of the species.

You have an external locus of control where we advocate an internal locus.

You can fight battles and gain temporary illusions of victory externally while our adherents focus their efforts on themselves bringing victory to their beds every day and night.

[–]evilmonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are talking about an internal locus of control, yet let's see you go against any of the multiple nefarious laws that are in place favoring women (Disclaimer: I am not advocating violence of any kind). So it's kind of like sheep saying they have an internal locus of control, when in reality, they are controlled completely by the Shepherd.

TRP are sheep claiming they have internal locus of control, MRA are fighting the shepherd. Which one is fighting hard so that future generations can live freely?

If the above example is hard to digest, think about the Aziz Ansari case. Now TRPers are advising to record all sexual activity (with consent of course). That does not sound like an internal locus of control to me. That sounds like a sheep scared that the farmer is going to hit it with a stick! If you truly have an internal locus of control, you would have the guts to go against the grain, and not let your internal state nor your habits be changed by outside interference, and yet you claim to have an internal locus of control -- that is laughable and delusional.

Again, I have nothing against TRP and TRPers, they are simply looking after their own interests. But MRA are doing a service to all men out there, and to all future generations by fighting unfair laws & cultural norms.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I do not identify as one

Only a retard would. It's not an identity, and that mentality is exactly what was meant when whisper talked about the diefication and worshop of peterson.

If you're redpilled, it would be like asking if a guy who fixes engines identifies as a mechanic. No, he's just a dude, but can fix a damn nice car.

[–]evilmonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a programmer and I do identify as a programmer. A mechanic probably identifies as a mechanic, else we would have no programming/mechanical clubs now would we?

[–]rockmasterflex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The "GIMME! I WANT IT" psychology of guys like Weinstein who just have to have the girl that doesn't want them

Err... Its not just guys like Weinstein, this is basic human psychology.

Everyone (even all of you) has someone they'd like to fuck but for various reasons and potential consequences doesn't.

The more actual economic power you have, the more the reasons erode and the potential consequences "feel like" they don't matter- because your grip on certain human realities becomes distant.

See the problem isn't that there are boogeymen out there, its that there are regular people, like you and me, except they never learned how to control their natural psychology.

And how many of us really do that well anyway?

We all preach not having one-itis and maintaining an abundance mentality, but I'm not convinced that most of us don't also have a particular woman or man in mind for if we won the lottery tomorrow and its an "all bets are off" scenario- even while we go out there and slay the good slay.

We IMAGINE that we'd be better once we acquire power and status, but thats just not true for everyone. For some, sure. SOME of the people here are strong enough that no matter how much power and status they have they'll keep abundance mentality and never succumb to temptation of getting away with whatever you want whenever you want in theory because of said power and status... I just don't think theres a significant amount of strong people across all of society. Those people are the outliers. Not Weinstein - his lottery just happened over a lifetime, and maybe it was so gradual he didn't even notice his obsessions starting to take over his decision making. Who knows, but he was definitely weak.

Give status and power to somebody internally weak and they'll be weak. No matter how well they 'front' the good RP qualities.

[–]throwlaca 77 points78 points  (17 children)

I disagree that's a beta trap. It's a man trap, alpha or beta. Why? just saw the most natural alpha guy I know, fucked over 50 girls in a 2 year period, just went down in a #metoo twitter campaign. Unbelievable things, girls sending everybody in the industry PMs asking for data on the guy, a blog about anonymous girls testimonies, gestapo would be proud. The guy went down and he was no beta. He was a true dark-triad type, fucking up girls up and down, until he fucked a crazy one. They are kicking him out of any job, any local conference, etc. Basically girls are denouncing him for not wanting a LTR with them. I'm not kidding. He never raped or abused any of the 50+ he fucked. But they are claiming "psychological abuse", I kid you not.

This is not a beta-only trap. Beware.

[–]notonlyplace 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I disagree that's a beta trap. It's a man trap, alpha or beta.

Thank you for posting this, TRP has a weird fetish with the perfection of the "Alpha" , bad things happen to him and women will fuck his life up. Women treat both beta and alpha like shit if it suit their purpose.

metoo is the signal of the next level, we had it to good for to long, PUA, TRP, Seduction , men were mobilizing without opposition. When PUA first came out a lot of women went to their conferences and enjoyed them.

Way to many men were getting laid, Men's right was making progress, we had a hit video out , things were doing fine, and than #metoo came along, which is accusation without evidence

They are kicking him out of any job, any local conference, etc.

The sisterhood can't allow anyone to ever question a women , this is the next level , It's uncharted , and most men don't even know what to do.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

most men don't even know what to do.

And now we can't even talk about it in Red Pill. The biggest organized attack on masculinity in my lifetime and Red Pill has decided that only Betas fall prey to it. Well, we had a good run but like I always say: If one side is willing to fight and even commit violence and the other side is not even willing to talk about it because their heads are so far in the sand they can't even see then we have a pretty good idea who is going to win that one.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[S] 8 points9 points  (10 children)

That's what defamation lawsuits are for.

[–]FlamingAmmosexual 24 points25 points  (0 children)

You have far more confidence in the legal system than I do.

[–]MrButtholePoopy 29 points30 points  (8 children)

yeah but what you get back out of a lawsuit is poor compensation for something like this. it calls your character into question. who you are. everything you have worked so hard to build is now sitting on thin ice and can give with one wrong move. you think winning a lawsuit and getting a little money is gonna fix that? i think not. the damage is done.

the damage is almost on par with being labeled a sex offender. doesnt matter if you didled a bunch of kids or fucked a consenting crazy bitch when you were 18 and she was 16 but said she was 18. you're still considered a sex offender.

[–]Darth_Antonius 21 points22 points  (7 children)

The idea of a lawsuit in this case is not to get something out of it for yourself. The truth is, most of the girls doing this #metoo bullshit are broke thots who have nothing of value to be sued for (see the Bill Cosby accusers for example). The reason you need to go absolutely scorched earth with defamation lawsuits is to drag her name and reputation through the mud as well and paint her reputation as a lying whore. You're not taking something tangible from her, you're making her an example to any other woman who would dare to try something like that again.

[–]MrButtholePoopy 5 points6 points  (1 child)

again, even if you do that, it doesn't fix whats already been damaged. you're reputation. that takes years of work to repair, if even possible at all.

[–]Darth_Antonius 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You can't fix your reputation comepletely. But obliterating the accuser's reputation and framing her as a liar will further clear your name and discourage other women from trying to falsely accuse you, or even other men of sexual assault.

[–]hammerhearth 3 points4 points  (4 children)

[–]ShotgunTRP 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Nice story, tell it to readers digest!

[–]hammerhearth 2 points3 points  (1 child)

huh, its a wikipedia article

[–]ShotgunTRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a lyric from a famous song

“Speak of mutually assured destruction

Nice story, tell it to readers digest”

[–]cashmoney_x 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I think by beta trap he means people (outsiders) who believe it's all on the up and up rather than the guys who actually get implicated in it.

[–]throwlaca 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Damn, that makes a lot of sense.

[–]cashmoney_x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do that from time to time.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

If a man today is doing it right, then MeToo wont apply to him. Its just the Fem Imperative trying to gain more ground.

I openly mock MeToo now. I make suggestive remarks to women how I am abused by ovulating cougars and 20 something girls in miniskirts with daddy issues and I just want to be taken seriously for my work

[–]ktchong 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Unless the #MeToo movement turns into a political force that will be comparable to or even bigger than the Tea Party movement, elect a bunch of feminists and MeToo warriors into political offices, and then they legislate anti-men, pro-women laws that affect everyone - and fundamentally transform the culture and society into a matriarchal one.

So if you have the delusion or denial that the #MeToo movement does not and will not apply to you, you are in for a rude awakening. You will not be able to hide or run from its repercussions as much as you cannot run or hide from laws and culture.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Certainly happening in Canada

Justina is a limp wrister hell bent on ruining the country

[–]notonlyplace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Until you meet a crazy chic, 99% of women are good people, they just want to be happy, but the crazy women, who are evil and have hatred in their hearts you're finished.

I never understand why men don't acknowledge other male victims(Assuming the man didn't sexual harassment her, if he did than he should burn in hell)

You can do everything right and still burn and MeToo increases the false accusations

[–]MyStepdadHitsMe 15 points16 points  (1 child)

A buddy was buying drinks for our table the other night and when he offers I go “yeah me too, #metoo”. Got a couple dirty looks for that one.

[–]hagolu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

#metoo does that all the time!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

YES finally. People obsessing over it is the biggest waste of time and energy. It's just an internet craze, and it's not stopping anyone from gaming.

[–]aspinningcircle 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't understand the waiting decades to report things. Seems fake to me.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I agree, I do see a lot of #MeToo posts. There’s at least one each day. It’s important to know about, but we don’t need to have discussions about every #metoo that happens.

Unless you are a victim of it and you’re posting about it in a field report, we don’t need a post about it (that’s just my opinion idk if that’s ok with mods).

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 9 points10 points  (3 children)

It's what they call shaping the battle field. Don't participate. There is nothing new to learn from the headlines, so let it die. Anything else is just feeding their bullshit.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 8 points9 points  (0 children)

In a general manner, all of the things that the current cultural marxist left comes up with, and ESPECIALLY those that light up the social media (gender pronouns, Trudeau's "peoplekind", any trendy hasthags about how western women are so oppressed) should be met with a grin, a shrug, or at most an eye-roll, and then forgotten about so you can focus your mind on more important matters.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There is nothing new to learn from the headlines, so let it die. Anything else is just feeding their bullshit.

Precisely.

[–]EdmondDaunts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I saw it as an act of desperation on the part of Feminism. And the reason it has passed around social media is the widespread state of leveraging that we are in. Leveraged debt. Leveraged outrage. Leveraged government control. Simplistic thinking. It had enough momentum to stick but it was old before it even got going. It also convoluted a smile with alleged. sexual assault. And there is that word: alleged.

When the stories about gay actors came out they were a lot more tactile. But they have much less weight in the narrative.

All of this will be ignored when the financial crash finally hits. All those women will still be looking for a resource to suck.

[–]grass_cutter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Obviously it's gone too far.

But yeah just as bad as the Extreme MeTooers is the Extreme "nothing to see here" people.

Not everything is black ans white. It's common fucking sense. Aziz really did nothing wrong. Weinstein though?

Meh. If you're naked with a hard-on chasing a hispanic hotel maid around the room as she shrieks 'rape' in terror, yeah you probably went too far. I'm not going to condone Weinstein just because a lot of people went overboard/ witch hunting to a bunch of innocent men after that happened.

I quote Clint Eastwood/ Dirty Harry:

"How do you know he had intent to commit rape?"

"When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher knife and a hard-on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross."

[–]Raveon_Rantoff 3 points4 points  (2 children)

What about the dudes cornered by Spacey.

What about the ones that feared losing their jobs, not negotiating new ones.

[–]existential_antelope 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well those don’t count obviously, how dare you poke holes in our air tight philosophy

[–]SirBlazington 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Every time I hear the #MeToo movement brought up I think about a saying I once heard.

"Behind the downfall of every great man, is a women."

One of the most prominent examples I can think of is Marcus Anthony and Cleopatra. Long story short Marc Anthony had split control over Rome with Octavian, however is love for Cleopatra pretty much destroys his lifes work, reputation and eventually he kills himself on foreign land. All because he became infatuated with a cunning women.

[–]MoDuReddit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair, that cunning woman was god damn Cleopatra.

[–]FirstnameLastnamePKA 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Stop saying liberals like that; we aren't all effeminate fools.

[–]zephyrprime 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really disagree with this. Talking about this (even though it's already been talked about) is actually the most important thing this sub can do right now. The metoo movement is the most significant feminist issue going on right now and as an anti-feminist movement, we're going to ignore it? wtf? Let's not pretend that the front page of TRP is full of super important new ideas and posts that are more important than debunking the metoo movement - it's not. It's full of the same sort of newb posts that have been on this board for a few years now (eg. "proof that trp is true!"). If trp goes silent on this subject, the feminists will win by default simply because we left the battlefield.

[–]hagolu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

#thankgod #enoughofthiscrap #fuckmetoo #srsly

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I've been critical of the posts that seemed to fixate on the Metoo 'debate' for some time. My comments were often down-voted. I'm glad to see some action taken. It sort of steers the zeitgeist in a better direction.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't just ignore this anti-men shit-show. The crazy women and beta supporters are making a lot of noise and regular people only hear that and start thinking that maybe this movement is reasonable. The dissenting voices need to be heard! Any story about this needs comments pointing out the hypocrisy and stupidity. If you are silent now then you will not have have a chance to speak in the future.

[–]JamesLucrative -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

metoo is just a shit test for rich faggots lol

[–]lItsAutomaticl 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Beyond judging either side for wrongdoing, I still find the Hollywood fuck-for-fame disgusting. Now anytime I watch a movie with some relative unknowns I'm going to wonder whose dick he/she sucked to make it there.

[–]Odins-left-eye -1 points0 points  (1 child)

There's plenty of overlap between RP and MeToo. If you're being alpha, no woman should ever imagine that you're coming on to her too strong. Remember cat string theory? This topic frustrates me slightly, because as much as it seems like feminists and RP should be mortal enemies, if you get down into the weeds, they really ought to celebrate a good half of what RP promotes. Take responsibility for your own attractiveness. You are not entitled to shit. Earn it by being better than other men. Stand confidently in your own space. Be the prize, and let women come to you. What, in all of that, could a feminist possibly complain about? A world full of men like that is a world with zero sexual assault.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And that is why feminism is a shit test writ large upon society.

[–]freedumb123 1 points1 points [recovered]

I don't agree with the me too movement in principle. But I can't help but be happy that all the people hurt by it are liberals.

I'm conflicted.

[–]ktchong -1 points0 points  (2 children)

... didn't know Roy Moore and Rob Porter were liberals - because both Moore and Porter were also taken down by the #MeToo movement.

[–]lItsAutomaticl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's a rightie, so all the things done by conservatives "don't count". Cognitive dissonance.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

There needs to be a standard side bar approach to manage the risk developed going forward. The threat is not something that many are prepared to face, or that is helped by social psychology. Regardless of beta bickering, feminist power plays and #metoo are not going away anytime to soon.

Edit: I suppose having the phone recording audio at all times is possible, but practical? Cameras in the home recording to cloud to bridge the gaps makes sense.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The approach is something I've advocated for years now:

Record Everything