Field ReportSpent the weekend with a group of alphas (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]Lendoran 124 points125 points  (36 children)

Yeah I hear you. It was honestly mad. I had disqualified her in every possible way, at one point I even felt that I should calm it down a little but she brought her friend to come sit on my lap.

The moment I call her cute, it dies down.

Women are a strange thing man

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    [–]3whatsthisgarg 48 points49 points  (1 child)

    She does not want to be appreciated for her beauty, but she will use it as a weapon.

    Looking forward to your next post with this as the title. Rich minings available.

    [–]Lendoran 17 points18 points  (20 children)

    Damn, I had no idea about this. Is there a place I can find his writings? Honestly the more I think about it, I have never once gotten a girl that I was straight up nice to. Every girlfriend and sex situation I ever had in the past was due to some sort of disqualification. Literally every one. However when I was direct and honest with girls, they'd often back off.

    [–]deadanxiety77 53 points54 points  (11 children)

    https://bookofpook.neocities.org. Knock yourself out. Probably the best book I've read on this stuff.

    [–]primu5d 0 points1 point  (10 children)

    Commenting to save for later

    [–]GeneralDogsbody 3 points4 points  (9 children)

    Why don't you just save it for later?

    [–]primu5d -1 points0 points  (8 children)

    Can't save comments on mobile

    [–]GeneralDogsbody 4 points5 points  (7 children)

    Pretty sure you can, mate. Not to mention all the other ways you can save a URL to your device.

    [–]primu5d 5 points6 points  (6 children)

    And you care I made a comment, why?

    [–]RealRational 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    However when I was direct and honest with girls, they'd often back off.

    So I met these two girls at hooters, at the same time (one training the other) and got strong vibes from both. They work together but I figured out pretty quickly they ran in opposite "clicks" within the restaurant.

    Everything was going great with both, when Allie started trying to talk about monogamy. Now this girl is actually feminine in a lot of ways you just don't find in America anymore, won't go on Instagram, never had a snapchat and uses Facebook to keep in touch with family members. This is a girl who does modeling for hooters, but won't take a selfie. The other girl is really just your standard 20 year old HB9. Basic in every way.

    Now, the way it worked out I got the basic bitch first, then Allie a few weeks later at a party. So she knew we weren't exclusive from the get go. Still, she wants to be, and she's never been shy about that fact.

    Last time she brought it up I just re-hashed how the flirting/chasing stage went, how she wasted time and I repeated throughout the conversation "if you thought we were that serious you'd never have wasted time with bullshit".

    Since that conversation she has doubled down on submitting to me in every way she can, she started bringing friends over for "dinner and a movie", we haven't watched a movie in 7 weeks.

    No one has told me this, but she pretty clearly had a conversation with Kenzie too, no idea what the details of that were but Kenzie won't go out with her whore/club friends anymore. It's caused a bit of drama at the restaurant and the managers aren't happy with me, they glare a lot when I'm in.

    All in all I'm pretty happy with the situation, I have 2 "girlfriends" who are aware of each other and even friendly with each other; both of whom have taken it upon themselves to "keep me entertained" and "keep their man happy".

    All of which started with me trying to be honest, blunt and direct with them, only to have that fail horribly, me re-orient to the "game" then after I had fucked them using that "action of honesty" (as I call them) as leverage to get everything I want.

    Note: If I didn't fuck them like worthless whores none of this would work.

    Note 2: If I didn't honestly try the adult/upfront approach with them first, I'd never have the leverage I need to convince them of such disproportionate value.

    [–]Lendoran 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Wow this is some interesting stuff!

    So which comes first? Disqualification or serious/adult approach?

    [–]RealRational 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    A big part of why things work for people is that it's a true, genuine representation of themselves. My buddy Corey is an aggressive, manipulative neanderthal, but that works for him.

    I'm an Engineer, a nerd, well dressed and well spoken, but I also have the physique of Luke Rockhold.

    I always start with up front, blunt honesty. There's this look I get a lot, head whips to look at me, eyes wide, mouth slightly open. Kenzie gave me this right away, she also wouldn't break eye contact. Allie smirked and looked at her feet a lot, she's kinda shy. Crazy for literally the hottest female I've ever seen, but she is really shy.

    With Kenzie I started teasing/disqualifying her right away. Only time I'd ever react positively would be when she complimented me. Resulted in her just gushing over me (managers got angry here too) until I didn't even ask for her number, I just mentioned smartphones and she grabbed my hand to write her number on it.

    With that said, the initial eye contact was huge with her. We kinda had the whole relationship in one drawn out, very intense staring contest. I eye fucked the shit outta her. So, that was direct, there was no ambiguity at all at the very start. But then with verbal dialogue I was very sarcastic.

    With Allie it was a lot different, like I said she wouldn't make eye contact. This fucks me up a lot, I need eye contact. I can't read people without it. So, I was polite, flirty, looked for eye contact whenever I could, tried to touch her hand/arm whenever possible.

    I actually wound up with Allie because another girl, Kady (Catie), invited me to a party with E. I was fucked up at the party, Allie showed up late and my focus had shattered by that point, so all I really remember is she sat next to me, we made small talk, then she was on my lap and my hand was moving over her body. I say "my hand was moving" because I wasn't moving it. Then I just picked her up and carried her into Kady's bedroom.

    Her number was in my phone the next day, Allie and Kady were the only ones there. Apparently I never got out of Kady's bed, so we all just slept there together, haha.

    I mention the manager's because the little Beta Cucks always try to cock block you. Twin Peaks, Hooters, Tilted Kilt, doesn't matter, they think of those girls like their best friend that they wanna fuck but never will. They're not a problem, unless you ignore them entirely. The girls think of them as Beta's, but they are "their Beta's", so you gotta discredit everything they say while never actually being cruel to them.

    When you're 6'4" it's a challenge to NOT seem harsh to some people, especially Beta's. So this is a real challenge to me, not making the girls hate me because I made their Beta's cry. So, just an FYI for others.

    [–]seserta 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    There's also a great audiobook on YouTube by pillreader. It is basically a machine read version of one of the collections called the book of pook. I have heard it several times and I always learn something new. It's a vast storehouse of information so it'll take a while to absorb and apply. At least that's the way it is with me. I'm just a few months in to TRP.

    [–]sbencherif 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Compliments are usually for building comfort rather than attraction. This is important especially if you've met said girl for the first time. Compliments before any mutual commitment (I.e. Make out, sex etc.)has been made implies insecurity which rarely equates to attraction. It can also be seen as manipulative, as a person feels obliged to act a certain way to achieve a certain outcome, which most hot girls pick up on very quickly, as noted on this post. Having ulteriors motives around women in general is highly unattractive, as it demonstrates a lack of courage on your part. There is also a sense of disingenuousness behind shallow compliments. Ive found girls do enjoy compliments once they are well thought of and tailor made for her. However you can't actually do that without actually getting to know her. There obviously room for being nice, but not if your doing more to sleep with her than to actually get know her.

    [–]willowhawk 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    What do you mean by disqualification? You talking about rapport breaking or just discounting everything she comes out with

    [–]Lendoran 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Basically, when she was trying to build rapport with me I kept on breaking it down.

    Her: You look so drunk Me: I'm not Her: I wish I could drink Her: Where are you from? Me: Shhhhhh Her: Rude. (Looks away for a bit then looks back and moves closer) Her: I have work in the morning and have to stay sober Me: Stop talking Me: Go sit over there


    Her: So that's why I can't wait to go back to Germany Me: (I'm watching something one of the guys is doing, not even paying a single attention to her. Then I laugh at what the guy is doing and start talking to him.)

    Honestly I don't mean to do it and it's destructive. Doing it this way only works for quick lays. If you want a girlfriend, this probably won't work.

    [–]willowhawk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Nah I was asking because from the sounds of it me and you are very similar with how we treat girls I was just never cognizant that it counted as disqualifieing her.

    Yeah it's a balancing act. On the one hand it's more fun to act like it, plus the positive reactions girls give are unbelievable but on the other hand yiu have to know when to dial it back and do a quick but of pull / rapport build.

    [–]cashmoney_x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    She does not want to be appreciated for her beauty

    Yes she does but it's context dependent (like everything else with them).

    [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

    You conflate seduction (of which playful "fighting" and play are part) with innocent, second-thoughts free, child games.

    They are similar, but diverse.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 37 points38 points  (2 children)

    It's not strange. Women look for social cues to get an idea of your status. When you are testing her it signals you are higher status and have options (head of the tribe picking a girl to bang tonight). When you are in a frame of praising her while she hasn't done fuck all you are signalling that you are below her in status and looking for favors.

    Obviously it's not always this black and white but especially in the early meeting phase and with higher quality women compliments kill. They have a place as a reward for good behavior and increasing comfort when your status is better established.

    You say you want to run game more like your cousin but you don't do that by giving compliments. Your cousin is running a more social circle based game. That means he has established his social status over the long term as a leader of the group and his role is getting people together and sharing value through creating opportunities, making desiscions, sharing stories, maintaining order, etc. NOT by giving random compliments. Then when the night winds down and his leadership role is fulfilled he can just pick any girl to isolate and escalate.

    You didn't build your status as a leader so you couldn't play that game and instead had to build your value through normal testing, teasing, etc.

    Basically your idea of being able to play some sort of nice game and give compliments is a misconception and not at all what your cousin is doing.

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      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Girls will flock to whoever gives off the more POWERFUL energy. Not the more positive energy. My cousin bangs girls left and right and his energy is absolute positive. Mine in counter is just powerful energy. I'll laugh a little but most of the time I just don't care and girls seem to notice this.

      When it reaches the extent as in your case... it's no longer mate-assessment, it is masochism. (Evolutionarily understandable: if your sex has to undergo being ravaged by males for millennia, it's adaptive to start enjoying it, physically and psychologically).

      Then it may be adaptive to do so only unconsciously, as is in the 21th century.

      Mainstream culture will change what women need to think of themselves, it won't change their deep brain.

      [–]destined_1 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      I doubt it was the compliment that cooled her down, it was calling her friend unattractive, someone the chick obviously looks up to. Probably would've worked out better had you not said anything about the other girl, just "I like you better".

      [–]All-Day-No-Pay000AWS 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      It was an obvious shit test. After OP spent the whole night disqualifying her, she wanted him to qualify her which he did which Is what made her lose the heat.

      I would have just looked at the girl, “hmm i think it’s time for me to meet her” smirk . That always gets them

      [–]cashmoney_x 2 points3 points  (0 children)


      She WANTED him to agree that the friend was hotter. She was testing to see if he was going to go beta mode and try and soothe her feelings. She LIED about thinking the friend is hotter.

      [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 21 points22 points  (2 children)

      The one time you compliment her she cools down. This is the thing I have found the most baffling about game. The hotter the girl, the more game works on them.

      Correction: The hotter she thinks she is.

      If their self-esteem is too high, you have to be indifferent. If their self-esteem is low, a gentler touch (but never compliant) is required.

      Usually this coincides with hotness, but not always.

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        [–]SKRedPill 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Feeling inadequate seems to happen as a default hole in the mind for all girls. The hottest ones are often especially insecure. They randomly worry about growing old and a zillion other stuff. It can sometimes cause paralysis like men's analysis paralysis.

        I knew a couple who've been married for 19 years and have a teenage kid. A rare case where the wife practically adores her alpha. The husband is in his fifties and has such charm he gets attention from a lot of women, which makes his wife get dread and ask that question as to how much he loves her. He clears it like a boss. His wife gushes about how he made her feel on her FB (which is how I find out. Don't realize the game lesson in it at the time though).

        But guess what, she'll do it another day for another reason. That never stops. It's not rational, if a man had a doubt in his mind, it will only need to be cleared once, but women? They get this the way we get urges and erections, which is often.

        Even proud and controlling girls are like that (the controlling ones are especially insecure). You see females writing in the media of masculinity being a mask -- it tells you more about their minds than anything else.

        [–]PhaedrusHunt 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        The one time you compliment her she cools down. This is the thing I have found the most baffling about game.

        That's because that's the moment momentum swings. She has stopped chasing YOU. That's giving her a breather. She feels like she's gained control back and you are the one chasing now.

        [–]SKRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Something I am incredibly confused about is that at one point, Jodie pointed to her friend(HB8) and told me that she wished she could be like her, that the girl was far better looking.

        He got a standard shit test when she said she wanted to be like her friend. Didn't quite clear it right.

        [–]ActuallyARaptor 7 points8 points  (6 children)

        This. I compliment any/every woman who I'm uninterested in. It helps me to disqualify myself while leveraging their physical appeal to help me pull women I'm actually interested in

        [–]cornylamygilbert 11 points12 points  (3 children)

        idk I want to believe this is effective

        I've seen too many women start to show interest with a non chalant compliment

        yet when I'm actually trying it's a turn off

        go figure

        [–]ActuallyARaptor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Well worst case scenario she ends up being into you. Best case scenario you learn the underside of game

        [–]waking-life 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Do or do not. There is no try.

        What Yoda meant was, develop the IDGAF abundance mentality, have outcome independence and then smash the puss like that's what was always going to happen. Or stay sitting silently like the betas in OP's story.

        [–]CanuckinFL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        • On that quote, Waking-life.

        [–]Radinax 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Huh... I learned something new, gonna try it from now on makes perfect sense.

        [–]ActuallyARaptor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yeah man I figure there's still a way to "game" women I'm not interested in

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        It's bizarre behaviour. If you ever have a hb8+ show you her instagram inbox though, it might explain why.

        Last night a plate showed me a DM she had from a male model with 10k+ followers on instagram (so you'd think abundance). This is the text, and I quote:

        'Gym girl hello, I don't want to be weird of bug you i just really want to know you...but in the gym it's kinda hard to say hello what with you being the absolute queen of the gym and all the guys constantly staring at you

        Chat to meeeeee?

        I would actually swim with sharks, wrestle a tiger, disown my mother, eat my own foot for a date with you...your incredible! Damn it I would drink your bath water...'

        It goes on for a while. It makes sense they like men they need to qualify themselves to.

        [–]BetaBitchBoy69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Fuck i know a chick whos an absolute wreck. single mother, works retail, no car, no education, loves with her parents and her fucking social media dm’s are fucking insane. She gets pics of dicks weekly..It’s so fucking pathetic.

        [–]p3n1x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Sometimes the prey gets bored being the prey. Especially when they know they are hotter than the average chick. They can get any man with ease. Being a difficult catch makes you more interesting... and holy shit if you can be mysterious about it.

        [–]JcHgvr 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        There's a girl in my social circle let's call her G. She's short but also good looking. Needless to say she gets showered with constant validation and attention for free despite not having much to offer other than her looks.

        If it wasn't for the redpill I'd be doing the same. We don't interact much but when we do I treat her ranging from indifferently to down right harshly.

        One night we were at a pub and sufficient amount of alcohol is consumed for everyone to become more direct with others.

        G straight up asks me why I talk to B (another hot girl of the group) and ignore her.

        Now it's with mentioning that B is far more interesting of a person then G could ever aspire to.

        So I tell her the truth.

        I just don't find you that interesing.

        It's like I just used some black magic. She spends the rest of the night trying to validate herself to me.

        [–]figyg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        At the end of last year, I went out and just insulted women. I hated the results I got, and by that I mean I got way more attention. Traditionally I would just go and be nice and get blown off. Act like a dick? They're all over you. I'm curious if this only works with women that are also a little bit mentally off. I stopped going out like this because I was suspect of the mental health of these women.

        Don't put your dick in crazy

        [–]TheReformist94 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        You have to neg the fuck out of HB5 And HB6 because supply and demand is still massively in their favour and they have a chip on their shoulder coz they ain't HB8s.

        These are the kinda girls who dance next to you in clubs for validation/attention, then gun you down the minute you say hey,so neg the fuck out of them and slam their self esteem into the gutter,then pump and dump.

        [–]TheScarletScholar 154 points155 points  (8 children)

        I believe you failed a shit test when she spoke about the other girl. She was obviously fishing for a compliment. Your response seemed to have shown weakness in you because that other girl was obviously attrracive and Jodie perceived that you were afraid to be honest about the attractiveness of the other girl.

        Obviously this is contextual but a good response would have been agree and amplify: "Yeah she is way cuter." Or "You think she's really cute? Maybe we should invite her to a threesome" Or " You think so? Good to hear cuz I think bi girls are hot"

        I think another reason that portion didn't go well is that you responded seriously to her remark instead of playful banter.

        Solid FR btw.

        [–]tino125 30 points31 points  (7 children)

        ^ This guy fucks. A&A is absolutely the way to go here.

        [–]greenricegod 8 points9 points  (6 children)

        New to this, what does A&A stand for?

        [–]_Citizen_Erased_ 22 points23 points  (1 child)

        They say something obviously untrue, where 95% of guys will correct it and "set things right" AKA take life too seriously. You should Agree and Amplify, take the whole thing up a notch. "Yeah, she IS way hotter than you. Thanks for the tip. I'm gonna go talk to her instead." Should be tongue in cheek, because below the surface you couldn't give two shits. That's the real point. Who gives a fuck about how hot either of them are. The other guys do, and that drys you up, doesn't it girl. Well I couldn't care if I tried.

        [–]BetaBitchBoy69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Shit tests are hilarious, they are fucking funny

        [–]markinsinz7 53 points54 points  (3 children)

        Nah mate you were with ur cousin who was possibly the highest smv guy at the party. Thus u by association become high smv. This parlays into your pleasant welcome to the scene and it's easy shitt from there. Tell a newbie in town not jacked and is at the party with some other random bunch of people then yea a a shitt ton of game n work will be needed. Your lessons while helpful are basic and a lot is clearly based on high smv. Try goin to a party where girls don't even give u eye contact n then share ur experience. That's ur avg trp student.

        [–]BetaBitchBoy69 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        It’s sooo fucking easy to get laid at college..Even betas get laid at parties, thats what most frats are... If you’re halfway decent looking, dress decent and have enough confidence to approach women you will get laid at college. Alpha beta otherwise. I’ve seen overweight fucking nerds spit game and get laid before. I guess this is the first time i’ve ever read someone overanalyzing a typical night at most colleges — if you aren’t a total recluse. The same exact situation was going on in that dorm in 10 different rooms at once lmao... You make it sound like he had some sort of superhuman godly powers. Being social and outgoing can bust down that pussy door very quickly.

        realtalk: Who bought the beer?

        [–]markinsinz7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Yes I'm aware of this but there's colleges/universities throughout NA that do not have a frat system or even a 'public' party system where you have the mix of freshers meeting up with others in the same boat. A lot of my comment is really unique n based due to circumstances.

        Where I am it's a lot down to status n looks and if u grew up within the area.

        Yes basically I chose a terrible place to study and a very cliquey town

        [–]BetaBitchBoy69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        you just gotta put yourself out there in those places, socialize with fucking everyone...

        [–]Rommel0502 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        "Become comfortable with the uncomfortable."

        There is today's gem. Great piece of advice, and it applies to all things in life worth having, not just chicks. If you never move outside your comfort zone, don't expect much from your life.

        [–]missingsomethings 23 points24 points  (1 child)

        I hope you learned some things this weekend. I'd transform into a sponge soaking up that information. Wish I had an oppurtunity like this.

        [–]Lendoran 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        Cheers man, I learned a ton

        [–]LuvBeer 19 points20 points  (1 child)

        More posts like these! Upvoted.

        [–]neverquitman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        That girl wanted to have sex. The moment you said shes cute she thought you might fall in love with her so she started acting cold.

        [–]asfasfsadzzzz 12 points13 points  (4 children)

        Did you end up sucking his balls? wth with the posts here recently jesus

        [–]RAiderNat88 5 points6 points  (2 children)

        He should just change the title to his story

        My cousin and his frat

        [–]bitcoin1188 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        My cousins balls taste good, a field report

        [–]blister333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        would have made for a more interesting thread compared to how it turned out

        [–]ajburt1998 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I imagine OP was jerking off as he wrote this

        [–]voyager14 6 points7 points  (9 children)

        How do you touch neck/cheek without being awkward

        [–]Lendoran 53 points54 points  (5 children)

        How do you do anything without being awkward? Awkwardness doesn't exist.

        Just make sure the girl is invested in you or at least qualifying herself. Then go for the touch. It'll absolute kill her

        [–]ionforge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        When you are teasing her you can tell her that she may have a high fever and touch her neck.

        In OP story, Jodi: "I think my friend is far better looking" You: "are you crazy? I think you have a high fever or something"

        [–]redd_reality 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        It starts with you.

        If you feel like you want to do it, in the moment, do it without thinking about it.

        If it feels natural and unforced, and you have zero shame about it, she will not think twice about.

        Basically, she won't think twice about it if you don't think twice about it - if you qualify yourself, she will qualify you.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        find a playful reason within banter or kidding around. “Aww, are you crying now?” (Gently wipe “tears” off her cheeks, giving her a hard time).

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Some good gems in your post. Yet, your cousin is living 'in the bubble' of university life. C'mon, many universities are 70% women and he's an alpha. OK. But your cousin is not in the real world... yet.

        [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        This baffles the hell out of me. I had been a dick to her the whole time yet she was into me. The one time I say one nice thing, she brushes it off.

        She is only interested in top 5% men, men of higher SMV and social value and power than she is/has. Be a dick and you're above her. Be nice and you're below and supplicating.

        per say

        You mean "per se". Latin probably isn't for you, OP.

        [–]Lendoran 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Haha cheers man, need to brush up on my Latin.

        [–]BetaBitchBoy69 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        i’m trying to figure out why a 6’4 jacked bad ass marine isn’t alpha but some dude who works out and plays sports at his college then parties in his dorm is....anyone know???

        [–]Lendoran 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        There is a ton a missed out about the dude but if you read properly you'd see what I mean. He makes everybody around him feel comfortable. Nerdy, jacked, whatever. He'll make you feel like a old friend.

        That's his quality.

        [–]leonardo91169 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        A bit late. Dude you need to give a detailed description of him. I am curious

        [–]CanuckinFL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I play hockey with even bigger, jacked men. It's not size of dog in fight, but rather the reverse.

        I mean to say it's an attitude. 6'4" jacked and history does not an alpha make. I'm sure it helps, but women leave those guys just as easily, man.

        [–]Temptationn 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        it’s funny you mention your cousin can pretty much land any girl irl but has trouble on tinder. I’m the complete opposite and sorta hate it. My texting frame is like no other I can displace my SMV, hold frame and game them into sleeping with me within a day of texting, I keep that frame upon meeting them and hold it but irl I have trouble establishing a damn frame to even hold, Its a curse because I’m tired of getting all my lays from an app.

        [–]Lendoran 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Really? Dude you should make a post about the text game. I'd love to learn from you.

        As for frame in person, just relax and do everything more slowly. People will notice the slower person more than the fast one.

        [–]RAiderNat88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Its a curse because I’m tired of getting all my lays from an app

        That's the thing, your target bitches are fishes in a barrel, they want to fuck and are easier than bitches you'd pick up off the street, work on your day game and soon you won't even fuck with apps.

        [–]BetaBitchBoy69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I love accusing chicks of using tinder and bumbler, just be playful about it.

        [–]DaBrokenMeta 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        I am going to be channeling your cousin from now on. I need to slow down.

        I got everything else going for me, but I just really need to find that balance and serenity

        Feels bad being an 10 and having beta mentality infused into your core.

        I just started med school and the market is wide open, but I am finally now really understanding how women operate.

        Feels bad realizing you are in the skin of an alpha acting like a beta, but thanks to you guys, I will come back stronger.

        [–]plutoniumgrill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Chill bro

        Once you graduate med school your SMV will sky rocket. Hell, I bet if you tell a hot chick you are a doctor, her panties will drop right away

        [–]its_all_fucked_boys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        this was hard to read. I hope you didn't spend more than an hour dreaming this up. good luck in life, you fucking dweeb.

        [–]nomorelulu 5 points6 points  (14 children)

        Reads like a made up or highly exaggerated story tbh

        [–]KRISTAPORZINGA 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        Like 99% of the shit here. This subreddit is literally full of “top” posts by 17 year olds who don’t know anything.

        [–]nomorelulu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I think the underlying message of the sub can be useful but yeah, most of the posts - especially FRs - end up being dick measuring contests which are just exaggerated or simply fabricated stories.

        [–]Lendoran 3 points4 points  (10 children)

        Haha the funny thing about this FR is that I was pondering whether or not I should post it because it felt too boring. I literally wrote it out in the morning then left it till late night because I couldn't decide if people would find this boring or not.

        Everything I said word for word is one hundred percent true. No exaggerations, if anything I'm heavily underplaying the situation.

        I skipped out the part where the other girls were acting slutty as fuck.

        There is genuinely nothing here that is unbelievable:

        • I went to visit my cousin who lives in university

        • He's a muscular attractive guy who plays sports

        • Calls a party

        • Girls from his class come

        • His best friends come

        • Everybody drinks

        • Girls act slutty

        What's so bizarre about this?

        [–]askmrcia 3 points4 points  (5 children)

        What's so bizarre about this?

        I think it's more so how this story is written. Like you wrote the story as if you're cousin was some kind of demi God where every chick at the party was models lusting over your cousins.

        I get the point you were making. You were basically describing a situation where you saw how people acted around your cousin who has some status.

        But again it was written as if you saw Jesus Christ himself and you were just mesmerized by his God like aura.

        It kind of made me cringe.

        So yes in a way it came across as a little exaggerated. It's not you though, pretty much everyone on this sub does this. I swear it seems like everyone on this sub bangs models or is at least close to doing it.

        I'm my opinion you could have left the hb numbers out. Just say there were girls over there. I don't get why everyone here even mentions HB. Like no one cares what they look like.

        I also would leave out you calling your cousin an alpha multiple times.

        Like i said, it's not just you, it's others who do field reports also and again I get what you were saying. Just explaining to you the criticism you received.

        [–]Lendoran 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        Man this is exactly what I needed, a clear cut explanation.

        The HB thing I solidly agree with you on. I actually made a comment a while back telling people to stop using HBs but the downvotes got to me so I just adapted. The words that I can't stand is when we have decimals. "HB8.5"

        Hear you though

        [–]askmrcia 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Exactly. Because I know these girls are no where near hot as people are saying. But again that's not the issue.

        The issue is that people like op are always trying to wave their dicks around saying they are banging models. And that's the main issue I have with field reports. It's almost like people are posting them for validation purposes instead of the actual message.

        For anyone that's reading, just leave the "hb" shit out. Just say girls.

        [–]Lendoran 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        What are you on about, I AM the OP mate and I said I agree with you.

        Nothing in my post is exaggerated.

        [–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I was on mobile, so your name didn't show up in blue. Couldn't tell

        [–]nomorelulu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Precisely this. Thanks for clarifying. He writes the story with clear hyperbole then in this comment tones it down to make it sound like a regular old party lol

        [–]BetaBitchBoy69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Typical college situation, OP just described an interaction that happens on all college campuses/prep schools all over the world. Yeah he did jerk his cousin off, made him look like the fucken man, when in reality he’s probably just another college dude who has above average social skills (once again not very tough when you’re living in a dorm filled with hundreds of people your age) , plays sports and goes to the gym. Anyone whos amazed by this story hasn’t been to a college campus. It’s filled with 18-24 year old girls in their sexual prime, peaking SMV. Ready to please the first idiot who makes their vagina wet. Even if you didn’t go to college or your older, you could have a lot of fuck in a college bar or club. It’s a pussyfest. I’m not going to go into stories but i’m sure most guys know this already. His cousin sounds like the evolved version of a highschool jock. I’ve met 30383838 clones of OP’s cousin you will find tons of them at colleges. They usually dress poorly, have a garbage major and drive a low end luxury car their dad bought them for graduating highschool.

        [–]BetaBitchBoy69 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

        why did he call a party? Wtf does that even mean lmao

        Like he started a party? He called people to party? He made the “calls” at the party? i’m foreign i don’t understand help

        [–]DaBrokenMeta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        disagree. The detailing of the story was not over abundant

        Keep it moving

        [–]caP1taL1sm 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        goals based towards money and success

        Curious what they are

        [–]Lendoran 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        For me personally, I started my own business at the age of 17 and have been focusing on building that up.

        It keeps me heavily distracted so I rarely have time to chase girls.

        My cousin shares a similar mindset.

        [–]caP1taL1sm 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Nice, thanks. I'm glad you have a strong, clear goal with obvious markers of success / progress.

        I'm not really sure what I want to do, I have a great job in NYC working in finance but my true passions are in, ironically, some of my previous beta/vice behaviors like video games. I'm not sure if it's chasing a pipe dream to want to be a streamer / esports figure but I am bored with the traditional goals in my career path, even though they're highly lucrative

        [–]Lendoran 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The main and most important thing I learned is that you should work in something you are interested in. Even slightly. I can't emphasise this enough, I've started clothing brands but closed them down because it wasn't my interest.

        There is no such thing as a beta behaviour job. The guys who made Star Citizen are millionares.

        If your game even gets only a little coverage, you'll still make a ton of money.

        Can you program a game? If so, do it.

        If not, hire people who can.

        • Use your current job to build a capital (A set amount of money)
        • On the side, try to find a way to get into the video game business. Maybe look at hiring a few workers. Anything like that.

        Again, do you think streamers, youtubers and video game developers live the beta lifestyle?

        Hit your passion hard!

        [–]p3n1x 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Good stuff, but this really should be two different write-ups. Your story was all 'cousin' then it derails to you.

        [–]Lendoran -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Yeah man I'm honestly struggling with that. I spent the weekend with him. Each day was filled with lessons. I may just pile it up into one big post later.

        [–]red_matrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Have you read the Book of Pook? Your answers to all your questions are all there my friend. It's on the sidebar.

        [–]hydrometeor18 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        I've actually enjoyed reading this thread, and have learned a few things. IMO it sounds like this 'game' is a facade to get laid. If you only want to get laid - that's fine. If you work hard in life, get a good job, own a vehicle (paid off), have a house and show society that you have assets and can provide for yourself, then you won't have to play a game or put on a facade. "Acta non verba." The work is then already done, so no effort needed to reap benefits of respect among society.

        I suppose it depends what stage of life you are in and what you are looking for. A person has to be honest with themselves and ask "What is my true goal?" I am a 29/M, and having my fair share of fun, I am looking to finally settle down with a partner in life.

        If you get your shit together and focus on your success, everything else becomes easy. There's no need to remember acronyms, keep up with validation, or figuring out what to say during a certain situation. The easiest most simple way becomes the most effective. All of our physical reality takes the path of least resistance.

        [–]Lendoran 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Pretty much this. I run my own business and have plans in life to travel the world building things that I desire. I have no interest in going to nightclubs and fucking average sluts every night.

        [–]RedPillN00B 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        how would you go about kino with the cheeks or neck in a social situation

        [–]Lendoran 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        You need to actually have the girl be into or interested in you.

        Say you're sitting down with a girl and you can tell that she somewhat likes you or is at least giving you heavy IOIs. All you would need to do is slowly touch her neck or cheek.

        It's magic

        [–]RedPillN00B 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        yeah, that's what i mean though. "Slowly touch" is what i'm lost on..... like, brush her hair away from her neck gently stroking it, cause a random cheek/neck touch seems odd

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It sounds odd but I try to make the girl feel uncomfortable.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Nice post. Are you two both really attractive face and height wise? Just curious. Im by no means saying that’s the reason you two did so well

        [–]Lendoran 34 points35 points  (2 children)

        Haha I get it.

        Facewise we are about equal. In the same way that Ryan Gosling and Ryan Reynolds look similar but one isn't higher than the other.

        Body wise though, my cousin destroys that. He is genuinely muscular and it shows. I'm not too far off but my confidence cuts through all of that.

        Also I didn't remember to add this in but I was at a club with the guys and my cousin was straight up rejected by a HB9. She did it in the rudest way possible too but my cousin quite literally acted like he had finished testing one video game then switched to another. Rejection doesn't matter and should be seen similar to a video game death!

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I definitely agree with that mindset!

        [–]Venus-cutter -2 points-1 points  (10 children)

        Wait did you actually bang her?

        The one time I say one nice thing, she brushes it off.

        You don't always have to be 100% honest. "Judging" her friend's attractiveness and her own and comparing girls is just plain unnecessary. Only landmines, few positives. Avoid.

        The one exception is "Total Asshole Game" - which is when you're completely out of your league (visiting dude at a Sorority House) and have nothing to lose, so swing for the fences by rating the girls who walk by like the Biggest Asshole on Earth. That doesn't apply in most scenarios.

        I often wonder how close to reality someone's description is, from their eyes. "Strutting through the place like a God" -- ha I wonder what the reality is, maybe that's true, maybe exagerrated. I've had girls tell me about their "Greek God Adonis" boyfriends and then some pudgy fatass walks in the room, lol.

        Hey all that matters is if you actually banged her.

        Also religion is complete nonsense, but different argument.

        [–]Lendoran 6 points7 points  (9 children)

        No clue what you meant by the bottom half of your post but yes I did bang her.

        [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 12 points13 points  (5 children)

        Why is that not in your report? Without it, it just seems like "omg guys! I talked to a girl! I was in the presence of an alpha!"

        [–]TheScarletScholar 14 points15 points  (2 children)

        He implied it when he said, "It didn't take much to get in her pants after that." It could've been made clearer though I agree.

        [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

        and /u/CrikeyKay

        Well excuuuuuuuuse me.

        [–]1empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Hey come to think of it, i don't think you're even actually a doctor.

        [–]CrikeyKay 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        "It didn't take much to get inside her pants after that"

        I believe that's part of the write-up.

        [–]BetaBitchBoy69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        woah woah hey buddy his cousins alpha leave him alone

        [–]Venus-cutter 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Just the description of what sounds like a frat bro 'strutting around like a God' and "time slowing down" etc sounds a bit over the top.

        Maybe you're in love with him or some shit. Maybe this guy really does command a room, but like I said, I always wonder how much a neutral 3rd party would objectively see vs. the storyteller (you) sucked into your own world.

        If I'm in line at the bank, am I going to notice when this guy 'enters' and feel it when he 'peaks' ... a college guy who still lives with roommates? Just wondering.

        Yeah I sound like a complete asshole, just saying it sounded a bit over the top. Again, have had girls mention their boyfriends are "fucking ripped" and after picturing a Klein model, some guy with a beer gut walks in lol. I'm picturing that here.

        [–]RAiderNat88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Of course his cousin is Alpha according to him, OP fucking lives at home with his parents.

        [–]Lendoran 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Nah I don't think you're an asshole, I'm just surprised at how a few people are saying that all this is bizarre. I didn't want to make this post because I felt like it was too boring and there was nothing to learn.

        I'm very observant, this is how I've learned to be who I am. I don't care who you are, I read your body language and try to learn something from you. He just walked in such an interesting way that I was trying to emulate it.

        This whole thing shocks me though. My post didn't have any statements of me fucking 12 girls back to back or some ludicrous thing like that and yet people are calling it over the top. If this shit is over the top then many people here must not even go out at all

        [–]UndergroundCEO 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Luckily for me I get to spend every day as an alpha.

        [–]SovereignSoul76 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        But not as alpha as his cousin, bro. Check yourself.

        [–]AmatureProgrammer -1 points0 points  (1 child)

        What are ways to just touch her cheek or neck? Just curious since it seems like a risky move

        [–]ghosts_of_me 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        One example: You want to direct her attention to something at the party, but she's looking at you. Use your hand to lightly push her face around towards the thing, as you're talking to her.

        [–]neverquitman -1 points0 points  (10 children)

        Good post but theres some peculiar things. If your bro is alpa as fuck, why did he reach out to you? Alphas want to hang out with alphas. Right? Even if he didnt see you for 10 years, a phone call would have been sufficient.

        Then the way you said cute might have had an impact.

        And lastly, don't set expectations because some women have an agenda and no matter how much you game them, they're in their own bubble.

        [–]CoolTheory 7 points8 points  (7 children)

        Believe it or not, being alpha doesn't mean you can't want to hang out with a cousin you haven't hung out with for a long time.

        [–]neverquitman 0 points1 point  (6 children)

        If he wanted to hang out with him, he would have taken him to a more cooler place like fishing or dirtbiking, or even for a game of basketball. More manly and more time to catch up. Just him and his cousin.

        Personally my point is that cousin wanted to renew his social value and act cool again, similar to the girls that have ugly friends. Im not dissin but I just find it strange that an alpha dude that went cold for a few years with his cousin decided that the best way to catch up is by going to a party.

        I call that retarded because guys that are confident don't need to prove to cousins that he's cool nor do they take a cousin or bro out to a party without hanging out first.

        Theres no friendship here. Just ego boosting.

        [–]CoolTheory 3 points4 points  (4 children)

        I think you're being too cynical.

        The cousin probably had already started setting up the party before OP came into the picture. It made sense to invite OP because fuck, why not? They're cousins and it would give them an opportunity to catch up. Not as intensely as a 1 on 1 activity would, true, but also maybe the cousin was busy on other days and would rather kill two birds with one stone by inviting OP to the party?

        Guys that are confident don't take a cousin or bro out to a party without hanging out first? I think they could. What's wrong with that? Especially if you're a really friendly guy like OP's cousin (whose MO is to invite anyone and everyone) it makes sense to invite his own cousin.

        [–]neverquitman -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

        The OP should have said no thanks.

        He was gamed by the girl and by his cousin.

        Don't be naive.

        [–]CoolTheory 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        The OP says sure: gets laid, keeps up rapport with his alpha cousin.

        OP says no thanks: doesn't get laid, shits on his relationship with his cousin.

        Yes mate. The latter is clearly the superior choice.

        [–]primu5d 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        That kind of mentality is weak.

        [–]BetaBitchBoy69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        lmao some cousin to cousin alpha bonding time over the fishing rods!

        [–]Lendoran 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Mate, we met for the first time 4 years ago. ONE time. At that point I was beta as fuck.

        Years pass and we both live our separate lives. He always tried to talk to me I was just weird in social aspects. Everytime he'd text me, I'd be awkward about it.

        Now we were having a conversation and he tells me he has a party going on in the weekend, asks me to come.

        [–]neverquitman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Fair enough. I thought u knew each other since kids.

        [–]jepalme -1 points0 points  (1 child)

        So his presence... his actions are very slow and deliberate? Can you go into more details about this? Thanks. Subtle nuances... some people just carry themselves a certain way. It's like a meditation and it gives off a vibe.

        [–]Lendoran 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yeah I hear you, I'm still trying to figure it out myself.

        He wore a jacket and kept his hands in his jacket pockets, standing straight but relaxed. I literally have no way to explain it. His actions just said: "This is my town, I can do what I want."

        Like he had nothing to prove. If you want I can look further to find a video that might have similar styles

        [–]Self-honest -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

        I have a cousin who is the definition of an alpha male. What I found out was absolutely insane.

        What did you find out that was insane?

        Bit about myself: I'm in no way inexperienced or a beta.

        After reading this, I don't understand how what you found out was "insane" if you are "in no way inexperienced or a beta."

        The first thing I noticed about my cousin was the way he walked and his mannerisms. Dude is slow about doing things and walks completely relaxed. I can't exactly put my finger on it.

        You put your finger all over it. Be relaxed, deliberate, cool, slow... It's all good.

        After hanging out a bit the dude took me to a little meeting taking place in the university which was filled with high quality girls and guys. EVERY and I mean every person there respected the shit out him, he was treated as some sort of high value guest.

        This is what I meant when I said embellishing.

        After the meeting, we head back to his dorm so that we can eat before the party starts.

        Where was the party?

        Whilst eating, one of his science nerdy roommates came in and was nervous.

        Nervous about what? Science? Nerd stuff?

        My cousin made him feel comfortable and invited him to the party later on.

        How did he make him feel comfortable?

        How did his roommate not already know about the parry he had been planning for a while?

        Skip forward to the party, about 5 guys show up. 20 minutes later five HB9 and 8s come in.

        So he literally invited everybody. Everybody thinks he's the greatest. Yet only 2 groups of 5 show up.

        I was actually surprised as to why the other guys weren't talking to the girls. They were all attractive and muscular guys yet stayed sitting like betas.

        They were sitting. You were sitting. Your cousin was talking to all the girls somewhere different from you guys?

        The thing I often do when I'm fully in the zone is to point to a girl then gesture for them to come over. If done properly, it's a killer.

        What zone? How often? Where?

        I point to the girl I found the most attractive and she comes over. We start talking for a bit then she squeezes down next to me.

        So you pointed at her. Sat down and talked to her while she stood up. Then she sat down.

        Like I said, I have experience. At this point I knew the girl was mine.

        Bro. What experience? In a different post you said you've only been out 3 times in your whole life.

        What did you do or say that lead you to believe you had already sealed the close?

        The girl was immediately trying to qualify herself to me in every way.

        In every way? How so? What did you do to make that happen?

        Picture the scene: My cousin is at the other end of the room chilling with a 9 whilst the other 9(Jodie) is sitting beside me qualifying herself.

        I've been picturing the scene. Seems odd. Paint the picture for me. I'm 32. I've been to college. I've thrown parties with hundreds of people. What's the scene like, other than reiterating what you've already told us two lines before?

        One of my main styles which I find to be a problem is that I turn into a massive dick when I get in the zone. It works 100% but not the way I want it to.

        How is it a problem? It works but not how you want it to?

        Jodie starts to qualify herself to me and I tell her to shush and to stop talking. Of course as I do this, she talks even more and tries to get closer. We start talking about cars and I tell her outright that women are bad drivers. She hits me but gets really hooked. Again, she tries to ask me about myself but I just tell her to stop talking and to go sit somewhere else whilst at the same time, I'm bantering and joking with the other guys.

        How did she start to qualify herself to you? The rest is solid.

        The interesting thing I should add is that this girl was the only person in the party who hadn't drank. Straight sober girl showing this much IoI. It didn't take much to get inside her pants after that.

        That's probably the most important part of your story. Tell us the rest of the story.

        Something I am incredibly confused about is that at one point, Jodie pointed to her friend(HB8) and told me that she wished she could be like her, that the girl was far better looking.

        I responded by telling Jodie that her friend wasn't really that attractive. I then call Jodie cute.

        This seemed to make her lose interest for a bit but she quickly brushed it off.

        This baffles the hell out of me. I had been a dick to her the whole time yet she was into me. The one time I say one nice thing, she brushes it off.

        Don't get too caught up in how much experience you have. Reading this, it seems like you have a good amount of learning to do.

        There is so much that happened that night but I'll jump straight to the lessons just to cut the chase.


        Make the girl/woman feel comfortable: Me and my cousin have two different styles of game. His is to make people feel comfortable otherwise nothing can happen. Mine is utter disqualification. Go with my cousin's.

        Nope. I would recommend going with your style. Need to hear about the close though.

        Become comfortable with the uncomfortable:

        Agreed. Embrace it.

        Take me for example, I was in a different town, knew nobody but my cousin, surrounded by alphas and attractive girls. Back in my old days the thought of this would make me shiver but now I was literally the only memorable person aside from the host. Always leave an impact.

        They weren't "alphas." Back in what old days?

        Girls will flock to whoever gives off the more POWERFUL energy. Not the more positive energy. My cousin bangs girls left and right and his energy is absolute positive. Mine in counter is just powerful energy. I'll laugh a little but most of the time I just don't care and girls seem to notice this.

        His is positive. Girls flock to him. But they flock to powerful over positive. Confusing. What are you saying?

        If a girl ignores you, move on: My cousin directly said to me: "Don't waste time with uninterested girls. If she ignores you, move on."

        Not bad advise, but don't just blindly follow everything your cousin says. The sidebar has way more info. And you should test that shit for yourself too.

        Tinder: Cousin uses tinder on the side. Remember he's a muscular and attractive guy who's got a bunch of matches but the response rate is low. Some take days even weeks to reply.

        That doesn't add up. Any more info you can add?

        If a girl likes you and you softly touch her neck or cheeks, she'll drench her underwear.

        Overstatement of the century. Evidence?

        One extra thing I'd like to add is that both me and my cousin come from hard backgrounds.

        So vague. Like what kind of hard background? I thought your parents run a church.

        [–]Augustuscrassus 0 points1 point  (5 children)

        Man. You need to just chill and realize this dude exaggerated some details. The field reports here are worthless.

        Every guy has come on here to brag about how "alpha" they are. Truth is they probably found the sub a month ago and think they have it made.

        He didn't need to spit game if the story was true. If his cousin is a popular dude, by association he'll get laid without trying very hard. Sounds like he didn't even get laid so why the FR I'll never know.

        [–]Self-honest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Just trying to help this dude. He will be a better man when he understands what he's talking about, and no longer needs to exaggerate anything. If he can't handle criticism or answer my questions then he has a long way to go. Either way I think it's important to pull back the layers so other young impressionable guys don't learn the wrong lessons.

        I'm not here to chill and listen to people exaggerate details. I understand what happened, like you do. Just want to make sure OP and others do too.

        [–]Lendoran 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        You've seriously got the wrong mindset. My cousin DIDN'T get laid that night but it didn't mean shit to him.

        If getting laid is your idea of being successful then you have major problems you need to address. In the last section of my post I clearly say that we don't really give too much shit about girls because we have our own set goals. I run my own business and focus on that, he studies like shit and wants to have a business in future.

        Girls are a SIDE thing.

        This sub is seriously dying man.

        [–]Augustuscrassus 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        You have a popular cousin. You got invited because you lucked out with this. You didn't get laid even though it was served on a platter for you.

        From another post it says you're 19. Your opinion is completely worthless. You aren't old enough to be giving out life or business advice.

        [–]Lendoran 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        I'm genuinely trying to respond fairly to each comment but the lack of common sense hits me hard.

        "It didn't take much to get into her pants after that."

        What do you think this line means? That I decided to wear her pants?

        [–]Self-honest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Glad women aren't your #1 focus man. Keep grinding.

        Here's a very trimmed down version of my original comment. I would rather you answer the long version, but these are the things I'm most curious about.

        I have a cousin who is the definition of an alpha male. What I found out was absolutely insane.

        What did you find out that was insane?

        After the meeting, we head back to his dorm so that we can eat before the party starts.

        Where was the party?

        The thing I often do when I'm fully in the zone is to point to a girl then gesture for them to come over. If done properly, it's a killer.

        How often? Where does it work best?

        I point to the girl I found the most attractive and she comes over. We start talking for a bit then she squeezes down next to me.

        So you pointed at her. Sat down and talked to her while she stood up. Then she sat down.

        Like I said, I have experience. At this point I knew the girl was mine.

        What lead you to believe you had already sealed the close?

        The girl was immediately trying to qualify herself to me in every way.

        How? What did you do to make that happen?

        Picture the scene: My cousin is at the other end of the room chilling with a 9 whilst the other 9(Jodie) is sitting beside me qualifying herself.

        I've been picturing the scene. It seems odd. Paint the picture for me.

        I'm 32. I've been to college. I've thrown parties with hundreds of people. What's the scene like?

        One of my main styles which I find to be a problem is that I turn into a massive dick when I get in the zone. It works 100% but not the way I want it to.

        How is it a problem?

        The interesting thing I should add is that this girl was the only person in the party who hadn't drank. Straight sober girl showing this much IoI. It didn't take much to get inside her pants after that.

        That's probably the most important part of your story. Tell us the rest of the story.