Red Pill TheoryThe Only Real Reason for School Shootings (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Modredpillschool

You know we see this tired argument trotted out time and time again, each time bringing us no closer to an answer on school shootings.

It's the guns that are at fault! No, mental illness! Clearly parenting is at fault! No, it's video games! Surely something can and should be done!

Of course the problem will never truly be addressed because the nature of our fem-centric society forbids looking behind the curtain and makes the general populace completely blind to the nature of the shootings. To make it worse, the common thread is right there for you to pull but it's all-but-invisible unless you shed your blue-pill conditioning.

It's always curious to me when society as a whole throws up its hands and declares they do not know what causes senseless crimes such as these and pretends there are no common factors or identifiers that can be seen. It's similar to Scott Adam's analogy, that we're watching two different movies on the same screen. They see random acts of violence that have no cause, no trigger, and therefore no way to stop it other than removing freedoms from all citizens, lest any one of us suddenly become as randomly angry as the last guy was. Watching the conversation unfold, it's as though the gun control nuts themselves aren't sure if they might become a school shooter, so the safe bet is to get rid of all guns!

But I digress, this is not a topic about gun control or medicating children. This is about the REAL cause of school shootings.

There is a common identifier that may clue you in to the nature of school shootings. And it's not hard to see. It is done entirely by male students who have been ostracized and have no sense of belonging... and they don't have girlfriends. They are, by all accounts losers.

It should be painfully obvious to anybody here what's happening but I'll spell it out.

Men only go to extremes like this when they are exceptionally desperate. It's the reason why young sexless virgins are easily recruited into terrorist organizations with promises of sex with virgins when they die. It's the reason why you don't see Chad from the football team that gets his knob slobbered on by a different cheerleader each night stocking up on guns to teach other students a lesson.

Why are these boys so upset?

Factor number one is probably poor social skills, perhaps no father figure to teach them. Couple that with some level of autism or physical malady, or maybe just an ugly face. They get shunned by the popular kids and girls, forever hopeless and forever alone.

Of course at that age you don't exactly have a roadmap to direct you where to go. Many of us relied on fathers to explain to us what matters in life and how to navigate social hurdles. But in today's culture of unbridled hypergamy, there are record amounts of public and direct hatred and lack of sympathy for male losers. It's not that women fail to understand the male plight, it's that they openly mock it. Meanwhile mainstream media does its best to delegitimize the actual issues these boys face.

Elliot Rodger comes to mind when looking at the full picture. A sexless autistic kid desperate for female attention but with zero understanding and know-how to make it a reality. So angry he was that the Disney fairytale of "be a nice guy" didn't work that he lamented both the popular kids as well as pick up artists who claim to have the secret, as neither fit into his narrow world-view. Of course, when the evidence doesn't match your belief, some might consider re-examining their beliefs. But you throw in a case of autism, raging hormones, and lack of father figures and you might just have a ticking time bomb on your hands instead.

Gunning to ignore the male plight, the mainstream news painted him as a red-pill misogynist, reporting that he murdered girls because he hated them so much. Of course, the news downplayed the fact that he killed more men than women, or that he did so because of jealousy and rage that they should be so lucky to experience female validation that he so desperately craved. No, this was simply misogyny at play, nothing more, nothing less. No mention that he hated pickup and red pill. He was a member at PUAHate, a site dedicated to disagreeing with us.

The collective response was "no wonder women didn't like him, what a loser!" This was the country, banding together under the banner of the fempire, sticking out their collective tongues and doubling down on their open disgust of males and their stupid vulnerabilities and needs. A response so tone deaf that I'm surprised some women didn't simply load his weapons for him.

Now, at TRP we preach personal responsibility, and I'm absolutely not saying these boys are not at fault for what they do. I'm a strong believer in personal responsibility. But that doesn't mean you can't identify trends. And a trend school shootings have become.

Do mental illnesses play into the outcomes? For sure they do. But you don't see every emotionally disturbed teen shooting up a school. You don't see teens with girlfriends doing so either.

The real reason for school shootings is because boys have been raised as the enemy by a society that hates maleness. These boys never learn how to become men from role models that don't exist, and fathers who have either given up or have legally been told to stay away.

And I don't see this trend of extremism changing until our culture changes its attitude towards men and boys. But the femtrain is a strong force and I don't see it slowing down, so I won't hold my breath. But if anybody wants the real reason to the meaningless murders, you don't have to look any further.

As for prevention, here's an idea- an inoculation against school shootings if you will. Get the cheerleading team together and simply give blowjobs to the losers in your class. Do it once a year, and finally once again at graduation. Though I jest in suggesting this, I would put my life savings on a prediction that student bodies that participated in this would have a 0% school shooting rate. As impossible as this sort of policy would be, it would completely solve the question that all those experts haven't been able to answer.

And it should shed some light on the male condition. Even a blowjob from somebody who barely tolerates your existence, and the promise of a future one would be enough to change the mind of a would-be mass murderer. Hell, downgrade blow job to simply hand holding and I bet you'd get similar results. Fuck- a phone call now and again would probably be it for 90% of these guys.

Hell, a guy in the desert would drink piss.

[–]modTheRedPike[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (2 children)

Keep it civil, people. Or I'm going to go on a rampage. I've left up some edgelord bullshit in the spirit of keeping the conversation going, but if I see it keep coming, I will go to work.

Only warning.

EDIT: alright then. Aside from a few political posts that weren't technically rule breaking, you have all been aces. I'm proud of you. Keep up the good work.

[–]Trvspkt 77 points78 points  (4 children)

This problem literally stems from the media and a lack of critical thinking skills. I’ve said it once I’ll say it again. Social media will be the downfall of a functional society. Everyone has a voice even the retards. Couple that with people who want instant gratification (porn, retweets, likes, shares) and the next thing you know bullshit faggotry is being spread like wildfire. It’s a disease and the only way to use it is by being aware of what it does.

A lack of self control, respect, and critical thinking is plaguing our society. It’s really what’s turned me on to TRP. People are just so fucking stupid now and days. TRP is mostly about bettering yourself, fuck the other noise around us. Play the game but be aware it’s a game. It’s only gonna get worse.

[–]zombi-roboto 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I am firmly of the opinion that, as you mention, critical thinking skills is the answer.

[–]CutLiver 74 points75 points  (3 children)

Timmy's dad beats him

Timmy's mom mentally abuses him

Or Timmy's dad is gone, and mom is absent

Timmy is "weird"

Timmy gets bullied

None of the girls at school like Timmy

Timmy isn't good at sports

Timmy has no talents

Timmy has little-to-no friends

Timmy has no future

Timmy is mad at the world

Timmy is frustrated because he's not "normal"

Timmy sees the news glorifying shooters

Timmy sees a chance to be something

People will remember Timmy's name

The girls will remember Timmy

The bullies will be sorry they messed with Timmy

The "normal" kids will finally notice Timmy

Timmy has a gun

Timmy can at least point and shoot

Timmy has a chance to be remembered

[–]Wel108 12 points13 points  (2 children)

This is the most on point shit I have read about this. It really is, when you break it down, that simple.

[–]CutLiver 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Maybe it is that simple, maybe not. It's hard to say what goes into the mindset that would drive somebody to do these things. I know the common sentiment is that these kids are monsters or mentally ill, but the way I see it is, it's really fucking sad that kids get to the point where shooting up a school is even on their mind. I feel bad for the victims, but also I have to wonder what happened in this kids life that drove him to do it. Most people they've interviewed said they weren't surprised he was the shooter... I can't imagine what it must've been like for him to have that perception from other students. It had to be tough. Maybe it was a case of self-fulfilling prophecy.

[–][deleted] 786 points787 points  (132 children)

School shootings is just another symptom of an underlying disease, which is the existential crisis that's plaguing the Western world. Men and women are repressed in someway or another, and don't have the self love to break through it. The media's always going on about guns are the issue and "the government's not doing enough", or whatever. They never talk about why, and until now pretty much mass shooter has killed themselves in the act.

I remember in Bowling for Columbine, Michael Moore asks Marilyn Manson what he'd say to the shooters, and in response he said, "I wouldn't say anything, I'd listen to what they have to say, and that's what no one did." These young men are directionless, and have no support. Maybe for all you redpillers still in High School, reach out to these kids and help them find a direction.

[–]liizzsar 376 points377 points  (104 children)

Maybe for all you redpillers still in High School, reach out to these kids and help them find a direction.

That's actually great advice!

[–]RatioRegnum 240 points241 points  (97 children)

School shootings are not a Western problem, they are an American problem.

Canada is the nation most culturally similar to the US, but the US lost more kids to school shootings in the first six weeks of 2018 than Canada has in the last hundred years. Australia, another English-heritage wild-frontier nation, has lost 3 children to school shootings, ever, since HMS Supply sailed into Botany bay.

Let that sink in.

This is not because either has restrictive gun policies. I know a Canadian with basement full of assault rifles and a functional .30 cal machinegun. Australia got more restrictive after the '96 (non school) mass shooting, but its straightforward to buy a gun if you want one.

Guns are part of the problem (no guns=no shooting, QED), but they are not the problem.

Reaching out to young men having trouble is part of the solution though. Upvote.

[–]CursingWhileNursing 48 points49 points  (3 children)

There was at least one case here in Germany. And it was a blessing for the mainstream media that he apparently had played Counter Strike at some point before the shooting. It lead to a big, stupid, hypocritical and utterly misinformed discussion that actually made me angry. "Killer games" was the term the german media coined.

No one ever mentioned that he got expelled from school for some minor disbehaviour only weeks before the tests for A level, that he was given no chance to at least repeat the year, that he wanted to study and now had no gratuation at all and thus, faced a life as labourer, since here in Germany you can't even make a vocational training without some form of graduation (which I generally see as a good thing, I have to add).

Nooo, him freaking out could not have something to do with this, absolutely impossible. It was the killer games, we need to ban those! Why should a young man who just got utterly robbed of his future for some minor misbehaviour freak out because of this, it's what is happening to hundrets of young men every year and do they shoot up schools? No? See...

Edit: Just checked, because I wanted to be sure to tell no BS. Apparently he stayed away from school for a couple of days and then forged a doctor's certificate, which was soon discovered. Surely stupid and not necessary, but in my opinion far from being the reason to utterly ruin the life of a young man.

Usually when you drop out of school during A levels (classes 11 - 12 /13, depending on the federal state), you get at least the certificate for the O-level, which still enables you to learn a profession and even go to university later as a lateral entrant. Not so in his federal state, so he literally had nothing. This brutal expulsion was utterly illegitimate, there is not a single law that justified this. My guess would be that the female headmistress was on a power trip.

A teacher talked to the killer, managed to guide him into an empty room and lock him in. When he later talked about this in the media, he got massively attacked by the media and called a liar. Soon the police confirmed his story. The only thing the headmistress had to say to this was "Sometimes I wish that he would be a more quiet hero."

I think this says it all. The Erfurt School Massacre

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (38 children)

we have shootings too, they just dont get mainstream, last year la ronge saskatchewan had a school shooting killing a couple ppl and a teacher, no one other than saskatchewan ever heard about it tho, peob cuz the shooter wasnt white

[–]fanturnedon 1 points1 points [recovered]

peob cuz the shooter wasnt white

Yes. Must maintain the narrative that blacks are all innocent opressed angels. This is also why you never heard about the guy who shot and killed some psycho at a Minnesota mall who was stabbing people at random. We can't have people see that guns are for self defense. Must maintain the narrative that guns do nothing but hurt the innocent.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

it was a native, but they statistically commit nearly as bad as blacks crime wise

[–]L33TPWNERS 1 points1 points [recovered]

no guns=no shooting

You're right, we should also ban drugs and make murder illegal.

[–]ControlBlue 14 points15 points  (1 child)

We should also ban evil.

Everything will be honkey-dory as soon as we do it.

[–]gradchad 1 points1 points [recovered]

Canada also harbors the most feminized men.

[–]BonelessSkinless 42 points43 points  (8 children)

Not all of us are like that. It's moreso the general air of being polite in society. We're Canadian it's what we do. There's still a lot of shady shit happening and red pills here, but yeah not as much as the betas and "enlightened" feminist thinkers

[–]NabunagasRevenge 71 points72 points  (7 children)

There is nothing wrong with having the strength to be polite

[–]banjew 15 points16 points  (6 children)

You can be a polite asshole.

[–]NabunagasRevenge 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Speak softly and carry a big stick - Teddy Roosevelt

[–]MarceeR 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Yep. It’s called charisma😊

[–]Random_throwaway_000 1 points1 points [recovered]

functional .30 cal machinegun

Automatic guns are illegal. I've never seen one in the many gun shops I've been in. Do you know the process to even get a handgun? If you are not a 'collector' or a hunting guide that needs one for defense against bears, good luck getting a permit for them. Don't talk about issues you don't know.

[–]marlan_ 19 points20 points  (7 children)

You can get a restricted license very easily by saying its use is for target practice.

I have an AR15 and a pistol.

Its semi-auto of course. But anyone who thinks an automatic rifle is more deadly clearly has no idea about guns or "combat" (even if it's a school and nobody is armed)

[–]1Entropy-7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The safe storage laws basically make it impossible to use a firearm for self or home defence. There was that firearms instructor who had his porch firebombed and after he retrieved a pistol and fired two warning shits into a tree to scare off the attackers the cops arrested him and he was prosecuted rigorously.

The other thing is that a lot if pistols are prohibited rather than just restricted. Loads like 5.7, .25 and .32 are considered military grade or "murderer grade" for lack of a better term.

And how many bullets are you legally allowed to have in you AR-15 magazine: 20, 30, 50?

[–]BurnoutRS 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I know a guy with a corrogated steel building filled with weapons. From fully automatic to semi automatic. He even has a couple rocket launchers. Anything that was owned before the laws passed was grandfathered in in Canada as somebody above me also stated. Just chiming in to add another confirmed Canadian with a weapons stockpile.

[–]1Entropy-7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Collector permits are.grandfathered AFAIK. In Ontario, with a population of roughly 10 million there are about a dozen concealed carry permits issued.

[–]RatioRegnum 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Google "CFB Borden machine gun shoot". You'll see lots of Canadian civilians with belt fed weapons.

[–]ph0t0k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Full auto are prohibited, but if your grandfathered in you can still own them and buy them if your license is 12-x. Check this out.

IIRC you can only shoot them at a certified range, and good luck getting the transfer permit to move it. Also, storage legislation is particularly gnarly.

More info to be had at /r/canadaguns.

[–]Nofap_Dutch 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yep, already prevented one school shooting from a friend in a province far north (Groningen, the Netherlands). These people just need guidance, a father figure and the knowledge/wisdom that can be learned here on TRP

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd say that's horrible advice. You don't want to be associated with these people. You aren't a professional and even if you were there is not any real way to ensure the threat is neutralized or the person is helped.

Be nice to them privately, but in a public setting to gain rapport and avoid being shot or targeted other ways. You don't want them latching on to you.

Report them if you think you need to in a way that they won't know its you.

[–]mrnaizguy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I try to preach RP whenever I can, it pains me that so many young men suffer unnecessarily just because they lack proper understanding of themselves, women & life in general. The knowledge is there, these men just need to be pointed in the right direction

[–]xRisingSunx 45 points46 points  (13 children)

If red-pillers in high school do this they will lose their hard earned social status. Women are evil when it comes to these things, especially young women. You can't even associate with a "loser" without being labeled as one.

EDIT: Best case scenario is if the redpiller does it in secret, the advise the guy to find a new social circle because his "sudden change" to being strong, will be met with ridicule and scorn by those who enjoyed the the weak BP that they used to be able to shit on all the time.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (12 children)

Social status in highschool is honestly meaningless. It’s 4 years of your life. You can leave highschool and build a completely different persona and go to college. One of my friends was a total dork in highschool but a cool guy frat bro who got chicks in college.

[–]xRisingSunx 77 points78 points  (10 children)

To us it is, after the fact, but did you really believe that in high school? Right, no one did. High school was life and 4 years was an eternity.

That 4 years is also key in developing your social IQ towards women, which if done incorrectly will have long-lasting negative repercussions for most people.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (9 children)

Idk man. Personally I didn’t give two shits about my social status in highschool. Neither did my friends. Then again our group was pretty tight and probably did way cooler stuff on the weekends than the so called “in crowd”. Most of us were virgins too but def not incel types.. just blue pilled and bamboozled by feminine nature.

All through highschool I was just waiting to get out so I could get on with my life.

[–]xRisingSunx 28 points29 points  (7 children)

our group was pretty tight and probably did way cooler stuff on the weekends than the so called “in crowd”

Then you had a social status.... A tight knit group of outsiders. You thrived on being different than "in crowd". Therefore had no worries about climbing up the social ladder because you and your group had found a position that you were comfortable in. But you still cared about having that status. Had it been lost you would have been back at the bottom of ladder searching for acceptance.

[–]Louis1709 9 points10 points  (6 children)

I didn't attend a single day of high school and I had no friends at all from age 11-22

Still got with girls though. Social status is nowhere near as big a deal as you're making it out to be. I was just a good looking dude with a lot of game and a nice watch

[–]xRisingSunx 11 points12 points  (5 children)

I was just a good looking dude

Instant social status. Are you stupid?

had no friends....

But you were a "good looking guy with lots of game". Yeah I call bullshit.

[–]anonymouswan 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That Marilyn Manson quote is constantly taken out of context. The question that was asked to him was "What would you say to the people of Colorado if you had to chance to speak with them?" and that was how he responded to the question asked. People constantly think he is responding to what he would say to the shooters, and he wasn't talking about that. Manson very much distanced himself from the Columbine shooters and never condoned what they did and agreed it was a horrific act and had zero sympathy for the shooters. Manson responded this way because he realized that the Columbine shooting was being used as a pawn for political matters and for the media to spin the story in every which direction without anyone actually talking to the community and seeing how they felt about the tragedy and what they think should be done moving forward.

EDIT: Here is an exact timestamp from the interview that OP is talking about

[–]shegotmass 38 points39 points  (4 children)

The male loser only applies to a portion of the school shooters and them being losers for some of them was because they pushed away people very harshly who tried to befriend them.

Some were just evil psychopaths, the columbine massacres attackers were known bullies and had social circles. There was that indian kid in washington that had girlfriends and was popular he still shot up the school. The virgina tech shooter would creep on girls in the bathroom and when people tried to befriend him he would theaten them. Even elliot roger had people try to befriend him because they saw him alone all the time, but it wasn't good enough because they didn't worship him. In fact elliot roger would bully his meek room mates.

The solution is actual treatment for psychopathy and identifying it since there really is none. I know of one psychopath personally from highschool that joined a local Antifa group that has had boyfriends and girlfriends. That psychopath Antifa member got arrested recently for making threats flashing knives at a parking lot church bakesale saying he was going to run them over before he stabs them. The guy only got a slap on the wrist.

[–]BobBaratheonsBastard 14 points15 points  (2 children)

That example is why shit is so fucked up in the US. No one wants to address the fact that some people in our society have mental problems none of us could fathom. Just let him go bc he probably didn’t mean it is most likely what the cops said in the person you knows specific case. Very fucked up that shit like your example barely bats an eye and people are going crazy over how some celebrity or Joe Schmoe said something insensitive once. No one wants to acknowledge that truly uncomforting and fucked up stuff happens every day. Easier to ignore it than examine it and try to solve it. In its own way this post is an example of that just in RP terms.

[–]biglaughingcock 260 points261 points  (11 children)

A man whose life is not valued is a pawn and a man who doesn't value his own life is dangerous to society.

[–]the_real_chronos_ 83 points84 points  (8 children)

And a man who values no life but his own is praised and raised to public office.

[–]TFWnoLTR 36 points37 points  (7 children)

Or he is wildly successful in the private sector.

Not everyone is dumb enough to go into politics.

[–]spectresinthefog 163 points164 points  (8 children)

After the last big shooting I was talking with a colleague of mine [f]. I mentioned that they do it for the fame and the recognition in addition to expressing anger. She then made a remark about shooters all being "virgin losers" to which I responded "maybe if society didn't teach young men that their worth is directly measured by the number of bitches they slept with..."

That shut her up faster than anything I've ever witnessed.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Amazing. These kids are bullied and rediculed until they snap. Yet her first reaction is to redicule?

[–]blister333 41 points42 points  (2 children)

I’d say the amount of money you make far trumps how much pussy you get. There are homeless men out there getting laid regularly but I doubt they have much value.

[–]blue_27 25 points26 points  (1 child)

That's because money begets pussy. One option gives you both, and the other is great in the short run, but you can't earn dividends on pussy.

[–]jackandjill22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yikes great retort.

[–]Mr-Kabuki 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Sounds like a feminist talking point. I agree it can be harmful but I don't think it's societal or socially constructed. Being able to achieve sexual success is an act of competence. And competence allows you to rise in hierarchies.

[–]liizzsar 150 points151 points  (31 children)

I think the news mentioned how he also might have had fetal alcohol syndrome. There should be SEVERE punishments for women who are drinking and drugging it up during their pregnancies.

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (22 children)

I believe his mother died and him and his brother went into an adoptive family. As horrible as this is and lamenting for deaths of the victims.. it’s really sad that a mestizo orphan kid was so lost and isolated and angry that the only group who took him in was a (alleged) white supremacist militia group.

I saw some idiot on Facebook make a comment about “what kind of idiot with a last name like that joins a white nationalist group?!” .. gee probably the same type of guy in the Middle East who joins isis.. lost hopeless no family and angry/resentful beyond most people’s imaginations.

It’s tragically ironic that a white nationalist militia was the only group interested in taking this kid under their wing after so called progressive institutions like public education target him as a violent threat and fear him. Makes me angry and sick. Although maybe he was beyond saving I don’t know..

[–]SnowMonkeyCracker 23 points24 points  (3 children)

only group who took him in was a (alleged) white supremacist militia group.

Not (allegedly) true. It was a 4chan prank

[–]goldenhourlivin 15 points16 points  (2 children)

God damn it 4chan. I even heard people at work saying he was a white supremacist; I’m beyond sure CNN and the rest of MSM sounded their “Yes, we have a white racist!” alarms all over the news.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

God damn it 4chan

What's 4chan doing here that's not happening on a daily basis?

So much spin and misdirection. It's really no surprise is it.

[–]i_bent_my_wookiee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

popping out their non-alcoholic champagne and oreo cookies (at least the cookies are diverse!)

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (6 children)

As a bartender, it is completely illegal for me to refuse service to a pregnant woman. If she orders 3 shots and 2 beers over the course of a couple of hours or so, I cannot refuse service on the basis that she's pregnant.

[–]chomponthebit 8 points9 points  (3 children)

A fetus is not “legally” a human...

[–]liizzsar 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yet if you kill a pregnant woman the embryo is a legal victim, right? The hypocrisy never ends.

[–]roadkill_er 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It is charged as murder if someone besides the mother kills “it.” That means the unborn baby is legally —in these cases— considered human.

Besides, the point here is that the unborn baby should be considered human, which would mean the bartender should have the right and duty to refuse serving alchol to the mother.

Human being. The unborn “fetus” is a human by virtue of its genetic make up. The word being means living. The fetus (baby) is alive. It’s human, it’s alive, Ergo the baby-in-womb is a human being. Regardless of what the State may say.

[–]liizzsar 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's so outrageous!! Makes my blood boil. I hope you never actually had to experience that, because I imagine that would be a difficult situation for you.

These women fuck up their kids before they're even born, and then send them into society with all these mental handicaps and issues. I read an article on Jezebel (eye-roll) where they were arguing about how mothers who were shooting heroin while pregnant shouldn't get any jail time, and should keep their babies, and just get counseling. I have no words, just #RAGE

[–]jackandjill22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea, we have some serious social/cultural issues in this society.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 121 points122 points  (27 children)

I'ma pull a Zizec here and say that the only reason for a school shooting or really any postmodern degeneracy is a passion for the Real.

The basic premise is that we live in an inauthentic society of spectacle and consumerism. People don't have the opportunity to experience authentic Being as they used to and only experience a simulacra of it through a screen. Furthermore people are forced into artificial inauthentic behavior and situations such as sitting behind a desk for years on end while having their words policed.

It's always those most isolated from authentic existance: the Bloopsters, the spergies, the weirdos, the drama girls that go full throttle into degeneracy in a desperate attempt to feel something.

[–]1mental_models 42 points43 points  (2 children)

School shootings are suicides. Suicide for those who are powerless, and hate their social exclusion. They allow the shooter some control in planning their last day, and to experience ultimate power in their social setting for that final day/hours, and inflict fear and pain upon the general group whom they blame their suicide upon. Doing so legitimatizes and elevates their status from invisible to celebrity (although they don't get to live out that status).

Most shocking thing I read skimming headlines about this Parkland Fl. Shooter was that he was charged with murder. I'm desensitized to any shock of news of a shooting by now, but I'm shocked when they are too cowardly to finish the act, once rounds are spent and paramilitary inevitably closes in. I never considered that he was alive.

Yes they are losers, and yes, the worst part of their life (in their minds) is being denied a sex life. Certainly part of a denial/isolation from authentic existence.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 54 points55 points  (1 child)

There are other suicides like watching your wife get creampied, bringing refugees into the country or letting your 14 year old daughter booty short around town.

School Shootings are just the most extreme manifestation

[–]Oscar_Cc 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Probably true. A commenter over at CH left an insightful comment back when the Elliot Rodger rampage happened:

The Stark Truth Also I don’t think sexual frustration is the spark but it adds fuel to the fire. The main reason we see people end like this, is our society has become totally automized. You get people especially secular whites who totally lack any sense of belonging or community.In a collectivist society your worth is based on your religion or ethnicity but in a hyper individualistic one if you don’t achieve success as an individual than you are deemed worthless. That’s why the majority of spree shooters have been from secular white backgrounds but Elliot being biracial only exasterbated that lack of sense of belonging and identity.


[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Eh, gonna have to disagree. I think most school shooter situations like this boil down to the hopelessness of being an omega male, coupled with mental illness. These tend to be desperate, low value males acting out. Although I’ll agree with you somewhat due to the fact that these are low value males in the context/backdrop of a society slipping into nihilistic instincts.

That said, you bring up an extremely important point to red pill discussion generally. There’s way too little talk about that baudrillard/Zizek/etc analysis of the postmodern condition and just how ruthlessly inauthentic it is. Just about everything does indeed boil down to an abyss of the Real. Everything these days is LARPing. It’s incredible. Everything from faux-90s fashion, to mustaches with suspenders, to these wannabe “movements” that don’t really do anything other than emulate some shit they saw on the history channel. In the 21st century so far, the simulacrum is devouring all. Although I think we could be violently thrust back into a confrontation with the Real very soon here if economic depression or geopolitical tension breaks out.

[–]i_bent_my_wookiee 4 points5 points  (1 child)


Can you throw me some context for this? Are they posters on reddit or something? Are you talking about Jean Baudrillard and Slavoj Zizek?

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Lol yeah they’re not reddit posters. They’re European postmodern thinkers.

I’m all with Jordan Peterson in his critique of the leftist postmodernism, but he really uses “postmodernism” incorrectly there. Postmodernism is a large umbrella of ideas, some of which are very important and valid insights. It just sucks because other branches of postmodern thought has been used to go down this ridiculous path that the current left has, the neo Marxist stuff.

But yeah slavoj Zizek and jean baudrillard.

Baudrillard wrote an important work like 35-40 years ago already noticing the artificiality of everything in the late 20th century world. Everything seemed to be a LARPy imitation of something in the past which was more real. In our present day, after the internet and even more deterioration of genuine culture, this has proven to be a monumental insight.

Zizek is a more radical thinker. He’s an old school Marxist and a Freudian/Lacanian/Hegelian. That shit gets pretty obscure if you don’t have a background in philosophy. But I actually do really enjoy factoring in his critiques of modern society. I’m more libertarian so I completely disagree with his Marxist stuff, but he really is able to point out the bullshit of neoliberal society.

[–]jackandjill22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's always 110% real with his analysis.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 153 points154 points  (4 children)

The thing about anger that many people don't understand, is that it is often met with anger. Go around as a society spewing vitriol at men (or anyone for that matter), and don't be surprised if it is met with a lashback. Equal and opposite reactions.

Like you said, no excuse for what happened. But if we want to improve things, then we should be cognizant of the unintended consequences of our choices as a society ... not simply swept up in whatever is in fashion with the mob that day. That is a slippery slope to MeToo and the French Revolution Reign of Terror and communist purge type of stuff ...

Also, as a side note, why to be truly good with women you have to eventually move past the anger stage of TRP.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 54 points55 points  (3 children)

I wish I had saved it. great comment about anger

Anger is a reasonable and logic response to a situation. It's a mans way of signalling he is willing to commit violence to have his way.

It's a grievance, and until it's seen as one, it's hard to address it

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 8 points9 points  (1 child)

If anything anger in men is seen as an unavoidable and defining shortcoming of our species. We can’t help being prone to anger because we’re brutish and prone to primitive behavior. Never mind the fact that it is men who are responsible for the bulk of societal development and said development could only have been achieved through our elevation beyond our simple primitive nature.

But society wants men to be angry and belittles our anger as nothing more than a consequence of our nature. You keep telling a person that they’ll always be one thing, and they’ll wholeheartedly believe that that’s the only thing they can be. The thought of being anything more never manifests as men are kept in their cages.

I see it all the time in asktrp. And imo the only way we can change it is to stop being so individualistic. But try explain that to a guy who’s felt alone all his life. It’s easier trying to turn water in to wine.

[–]jackandjill22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's the thing it's not bad. Our society has numerous "coming of age" for women. But since "Fight club" men have ever only known shame. There needs to be guidance for young men otherwise only the talented & fittest will survive. & that's a recipe for disaster in a socially dysfunctional society.

[–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (6 children)

I agree with you. My biggest thing is the loss of the true family unit. A mother, and a father. How these two people are integral in the raising of a young man is what's critcally missing in most, if not all, of these school shooter incidents. These kids that commit these crimes are probably mentally disturbed, but I think much of this comes from not having 2 parents who are present and helping that boy understand what is real, what is fake, what is appropriate, what causes pain, how to deal with bullies, how to not be a bully, etc, etc. They are being raised by a non-existent father, a mother that is too busy with herself, and violence all around him. THIS becomes reality for him. And, in the event that the boy is still disturbed, even while being raised in a proper home, someone that is present in that child's home, in his life, would and should be able to tell that something is amiss.

These violent incidents do not have guns to blame. They don't have video games or violent movies, or comic books or bullies or ANYTHING ELSE to blame. THE LACK OF PARENTING AND LEADERSHIP AT HOME IS TO BLAME.

Men: don't have children. I have two daughters, and they work my ass relentlessly, always needing, always wanting, but what I can give them with my meager means, is a FATHER, who will say yes to their needs and wants occassionally, and NO, a hell of a lot more. And to be there telling them that a lot of what they see is bullshit. Any doubts about life or any of it's small or big decisions, they can ask me. And I watch them. I watch their ever changing moods, what they wear, who they associate with, changes in anything, I see. I might not say anything, but I notice. I'm their fucking santa claus, their tooth fairy, their prison warden.

And most of the time, I don't have to even say anything at all. But I'm there.

These young boys have no one at home that is present, or even "present" in their lives.

[–]spencerc25 38 points39 points  (3 children)

One of the most powerful things for a kid is just having a parent in the stands watching them play t-ball.

[–]evel333 7 points8 points  (1 child)

My mom missed my 5th grade spelling bee. And while she was an incredible, caring, and selfless women; my memory of disappointment that day always stuck with me.

[–]spencerc25 4 points5 points  (0 children)

wow that's powerful. Imagine never having anyone show up. I'm fortunate to not have experienced that. I always feel for the kids who don't have anyone show up. Ever.

[–]jackandjill22 1 point2 points  (0 children)


[–]finearse_90 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You summed it up perfectly my man, you are there.

[–]Jester2552 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ben Shapiro mentioned this the other day with his take on the shooting. I believe he mentioned how the overwhelming majority of mass shooters are male but also they almost always have had zero male figure as a parent. I absolutely agree with what you're on about with the complete break down of parenting since the 1950s

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 78 points79 points  (36 children)

And the first thing thrown back at you is:

It's not my fault; and

What, should we fuck losers so no one gets shot?

This is why it's difficult to have these conversations. The instant they are made, the frame is shifted immediately to solopcism. Women clearly will not, or do not want to do anything about it. So the question is. What can their fellow man do about it? Especially since there are so few male role models in school?

It's a setup for failure

[–]Barvazon 65 points66 points  (10 children)

Fucking losers is a shitty solution for a shitty problem.

As a former soldier you should know better - you don't hand out trophies for participating, you make boys men by giving them aim and responsibility.

[–]reset_password_ 1 points1 points [recovered]

Aim and responsibility and reward them with status. The status reward is pretty automatic in the military if you do your job.

[–]jackandjill22 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No. I think that's part of the problem. Our society over values status. Everyone cannot be apart of the top 20%. As someone who's in the 35% & rising you realise that the herd thins out really quickly as you start becoming successful. & equitibility is the only long-term option.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

it's too bad boy scouts got so pussified. maybe there should be some kind of "red pill scouts". instead of glamping trips with a bunch of homos, take high school kids to lift, to boxing and bjj gyms, on wilderness survival outings. somebody's gotta play catcher in the rye.

[–]1Captain_Save_A_Hoe_ 10 points11 points  (1 child)

you make boys men by giving them aim and responsibility.

Western governments have gang raped those opportunities away by restricting what they can and cant do for the first 20 years of their lives.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I wasn't a soldier.

Also, it was a rhetorical question

[–]AloneOnTheStrange 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well that's just it, women can't be expected to bang people out of sympathy or threats. Women don't, and shouldn't, give sex as an act of charity. Men have to earn it by being attractive.

But what about something a little more reasonable, like people in general just befriending these people? Should we befriend losers so no one gets shot? I would guess the answer would be exactly the same.

The fact is these individuals are at the bottom of their social hierarchy, and social hierarchies are delicate things. No one, whether the jocks at the top, or the betas in the middle, or even the teachers on the outside of it, wants to disturb it. Even after experiencing a school shooting, I would bet anything that these people would continue to enforce this social hierarchy. They would literally risk their lives to maintain this social order.

[–]blister333 8 points9 points  (13 children)

How about more men volunteer with boys who are fatherless?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Why don't they?

Why don't you?

[–]blister333 13 points14 points  (5 children)

I not sure why more men don’t. I will be this summer

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 14 points15 points  (4 children)

I dont because I hate kids...

But good on you for walking the walk, seriously

[–]88Will88 1 points1 points [recovered]

You “hate kids”? Hmmm are you over 30 yet? I can understand someone who is well under 30 with no personal introspection saying that but a grown man? You hate your underage relatives? You hate to see little kids laughing and having fun? Clarify

[–]Joey_Lopez 2 points3 points  (5 children)

No. That would only further encourage the cancer of single moms be subsidizing their bad choices.

[–]blister333 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The young men shouldn’t have to suffer just cause their parents fucked up. You’ll get a revolving door of kids without dads

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (7 children)

Yeah so cheerleaders have to fuck the “weird” kids so we don’t get shot up? As a high schooler myself I know every guy would try to become a “loser” to get that BJ.

I’ve also never had a girlfriend in high school (I’m a senior whose had multiple chances throughout it but I was a beta pussy until this school year). I know kids who don’t have girlfriends and they’re not about to kill anyone.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Case in point. Did you do that intentionally? I was referring to how women can't look past the finger when you point at something.

Big picture, focus on the welcome statement.

The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

No I didn’t do it intentionally. I was a beta who texted my oneitis every day until I realized I was not getting anywhere and I stopped. Then a year later I found TRP and it all made sense.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I wonder, if a guy had the prefect storm of propensity for mental illness, access to weapons, and a grievance against the bp dream, would that same TRP roadmap changed his path?

[–]Ballosaurus 1 points1 points [recovered]

never had a girlfriend in high school

No, but I bet you have parents that care.

[–]Jikira 40 points41 points  (15 children)

Elliot Rodger comes to mind when looking at the full picture

I have sympathy for most things, but I do not have sympathy for people blaming others for things that only they can fix.

You don't see teens with girlfriends doing so either.

The Florida shooter had a girlfriend.

An inoculation against school shootings if you will. Get the cheerleading team together and simply give blowjobs to the losers in your class. Do it once a year, and finally once again at graduation.

Agree, When I was in Highschool, I didn't do the blowjob thing, but I did spend most of my time with the guys/girls at the bottom of my school hierarchy. I make it an effort to talk and spend time with those guys/girls. Every year for Valentine's day I would bake them cookies and write a personal note. Sometimes, people just need to know that someone acknowledges their existence. I think we should all make a conscious effort to treat people with kindness. I remember one guy who kind of had the mass shooter personality and I became really good friends with totally change he was no longer the sad and depressed guy in the background. He just wanted a friend (girlfriend too?)

Fuck- a phone call now and again would probably be it for 90% of these guys.

So true!! One conversation could change someone life.

Hell, a guy in the desert would drink piss.

My one concern is that guys who are this desperate tend to fall in love with anything that gave them an ounce of kindness. Which is why how you reject a guy is very important. I think there is a correct way to reject a guy, I just think girls nowadays get off on that.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (8 children)

Everything you said is true. When I was in High School, the most popular guy in school (he went on later to become an actual runway model) befriended the most bullied, weakest kid in school, for no other reason than he wanted to and because he saw something great in him. That kid was protected from then on and he completely flourished. He started dressing better, his grades went up, he started getting invited to parties, his entire demeanour changed. It was the most amazing thing and I'll never forget it. There are so many kids starving for kindness and friendship and it's so easy to make a huge impact on their lives.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (6 children)

One of my buddies taught his little brother to always befriend and stand up for bullied kids and I think I’ll do the same if I ever have kids.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 14 points15 points  (5 children)

Easier said than done tbh.

The problem with the perpetually bullied and/or ignored is that the bullying and ostracizing doesn't appear out of thin air.

To pick the admittedly extreme case of Elliot Rodger: Would you have wanted to be friends with that guy? Probably not.

And now think of a less severe but still serious scenario - a guy who is awkward and/or boring, has weird hobbies and interests (like collecting roadkill or whatever), possibly offends your aesthetic sensibilities (fat, smelly, ugly etc.), may not even be that nice in the first place for whatever reason (maybe he's a know-it-all, maybe he has a temper or whatever) and suddenly what sounds great on paper turns out to be something you'd rather leave to others.

[–]evel333 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks to movies and TV, I think people romanticize this notion of befriending the likable loser with a preconceived idea or appearance in mind.

[–]Jikira 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Easier said than done tbh.

True, But I don't give a shit. If you think about most things discussed on this sub is easier said than done, but you still keep trying and pushing.

Extreme case of Elliot Rodger: Would you have wanted to be friends with that guy? Probably not.

For me in particular, yes. I spent all of the time with really weird kids. Yesterday, I threw a party for an Elliot Rodger weird type guy. Picture a guy who extremely hates women and been in a couple of mental institution. I have been trying to build this guys trust for the past year. The purpose of the party was for him to make friends and I have to say I have never seen him smile like that. Sometimes these guys never leave their rooms and they don't have any friends. Whenever I see someone not making friends or having trouble I immediately invite them to hang out with me.

a guy who is awkward and/or boring, has weird hobbies and interests (like collecting roadkill or whatever), possibly offends your aesthetic sensibilities (fat, smelly, ugly etc.), may not even be that nice in the first place for whatever reason (maybe he's a know-it-all, maybe he has a temper or whatever) and suddenly what sounds great on paper turns out to be something you'd rather leave to others.

True, that is why I don't really expect others to do this. It is something I am passionate about. However, I do not hang around people who do not befriend people because they are weird. My last boyfriend said my friends are weird and he doesn't like them. Dumped his ass. But this is literally because I was that weird person at one point in my life and decided to change. I can usually relate to a lot of issues. I just hope I can influence other to do the same.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The Florida shooter had a girlfriend.

Spend a day on asktrp and you'll see that doesn't really mean that much...

[–]xRisingSunx 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Every year for Valentine's day I would bake them cookies and write a personal note.

Nice of you, but others probably looked upon this as pity. That is no fault of yours, but the only thing lower than a loser is a loser who is pitied. Every time one of those people smiled from your genuine act of kindness there were others laughing behind their back about how much of a "joke" it was that the person thought you actually liked them.

[–]jackandjill22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea, you're right. They do. I was discussing this with a female friend of mine the other night. She dropped a female friend of hers because she was mistreating a guy friend. I said to her, "some guys just don't have enough experience" & it takes a lot more these days; similar to talent under capitalism to survive then it used to.

[–]banjew 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I was as blue as the sky in high school, and this was a time before the internet, and social networks and tinder. So wasn't so bad as a beta, Chad couldn't fuck as many girls as today, and usually you could get laid.

Not me tough, I was the blue aspberger syndrome, the loner, your typical school shooter. I tried to kill myself a couple of times but nothing seriously. I just grew up that phase when I started college.

I can see now there is a much higher proportion of young men that suffer exactly this, now truly only the 20% get to have "social life" while the other 80% are invisible to girls. Back then it wasn't as bad, maybe only with a 20-30% lone virgins.

I can see this increase of male invisibility draws the extreme cases to self-destruction and/or shootings that basically is the same thing. It's an angry suicide.

[–]chaseemall 28 points29 points  (6 children)

Well, what about socializing institutions? I'd suggest Boy Scouts, but that's already becoming converged. What appeals to guys like this? Radicalism. So what you need is an organization which looks radical, but actually turns them into men with some semblance of masculinity, self-assurance, and socialization. Something that looks cool and tames their autism, drives them into physical culture, into a brotherhood of some sort, develops some competence, and facilitates their interaction with women through some kind of social function—dances and the like.

[–]SteveLorde 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Damn shame no one wants to step in and help young male teenagers...

[–]darkmoon09 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Because young men who need help can't really be considered 'men'. Men are supposed to be able to handle their problems which is where most of the hatred and disgust for struggling guys stems from.

[–]viyacondios 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I'm never been affiliated with them but that sounds like the Mormon church. I think in this case religion would be an improvement (I'm usually vehemently atheist).

[–]tmccar20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

steps that don’t involve prostitution. 1. Predicting crime in Chicago was 60 minutes segment that was trying lowering crime by predicting who was at risk, and having community leaders and law enforcement talk to the individuals. Same process, small changes. 2. If possible push for them to visit a trade school for a week visit, where they use their hands, or martial arts classes, something physical to understand pain and healthy body competition 3. Their problem is with existence itself, maybe push for a 12 step program about screen reduction, church, or therapy program with wood chopping so the emotions can be expressed with a counselor (non-female), meditation focusing on small steps towards the active future. 4. Add to 2 more cops to schools for the state, (probably country) for trial period of 90 days after a shooting which will probably be extended to forever, but I would like to give schools less of a prison vibe. 5. Law enforcement and outreach course as optional class for High school mandatory for at risk youths. 6. Push for basics ROTC training again for high risk youth minus gun training. 7. Maybe A male recess teacher for grade schools who understands aggressive behavior, so they learn to “fight it out,” and when to stop. This job could done in a month. 8. There also the fame component to this, no mail from the outside world except family and lawyer, the Batman shooter had all of these pictures from very attractive females, very damaged individuals “who were in love with him,” gross behavior. 9. TV have to black bar the their eyes when showing the shooter, Or pay heavy FCC fine. If cursing isn’t okay then showing their face is far more obscene and reckless.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Prior to the 21st century (we’ll not exactly true still happens) before these guys got too resentful and went postal.. they were probably used as human shields, or for suicide attacks.

The only time in their lives they get any “praise” or heroism in society is when their brokenness is manipulated for group advantage. Quite tragic and sad.

[–]H3yFux0r 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was accidentally/naturally Red pill in high school I was average looking, but skinny for a time (senior year I took weight lifting class 90mins a day all year and that changed), good grades, and a computer geek. Although at that time people called us computer wizards and did not make fun of us for it as we helped everyone with computer problems and they all knew STEM was making money, but I still picked up girls. None of my friends in computer class could get a girl they all looked at me with wonder and or disgust when I would hang with girls or go to parties. I saw that Elliot Rodger look in their eyes. I had to get all of them dates for dances and now looking back I see that my example helped them. I never realized it for a long time but them asking questions about every detail of my relationships was them asking "How the fuck did you lay that pussy pedestal cheerleader!?" Spread the wealth guys, teach your friends. I got enjoyment from it, these guys had never seen a IRL bare set of tits at age 16-19. One guy Chris was so afraid of girls he formed a stutter trying to talk to girls. I would throw parties a week before dances and hook all my friends up. In the summer times it was good old fashion American drunken barn parties where my friends got to test the waters for themselfs. By the time college came around school work was top priority for them not sex/girls, it was much more healthy. Looking back I know it helped them alleviate that tension and it made them a better student/person to experience a girls touch. I'm not saying anyone of them would have shot up a place but you just never know these days.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 69 points70 points  (15 children)

And I don't see this trend of extremism changing until our culture changes its attitude towards men and boys.

It's going to get worse.

I was just thinking about this. Why doesn't Mexico have mass school shootings dominating their media? Don't they have lunatics south of the border? Of course they do. However their lunatics just join a drug cartels and dismember rival gang members for fun and post videos of it on youtube. Or you can pack your bags for Syria and play the same game but to a different tune. Malcontents and crazy people will always exist. The question is what mechanism is in place to manage it.

For several hundred years in America, the mechanism was white, christian community values. Men yielded power in their community and cleansed them of problems like this kid, either by forcing him to get his shit together or by ousting him. They promoted good behavior and crushed bad behavior--at the local, community level. Now? Those are the exact people under attack. They want to take our guns and silence us. They want a big government to hunt down the trouble makers and deal with it, so the rest of us won't have to do it.

The problem is clearly a big government can't do it. They failed to do it here. They are failing to do it in South America. Last time I checked the Middle East is still a colossal clusterfuck. It was the values of individual people that controlled this, not an uncaring mass entity that serves its own purposes.

So yeah. These young boys will continue to be under attack. Actual lunatics will slip through the system and do all sorts of horrors. Disenfranchised young men, facing no alternatives, will idolize their acts and copy them. The default state for every young male is becoming that of a criminal--a rapist, a violent offender and an oppressor. And when everyone is a criminal, no one cares about the law. And in the end there will be no one to defend the system.

Enjoy the decline.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So true. It won’t get better. All these “new dawn” cuckservstives are fucking delusional. As are these idiot liberals thinking the government can solve all the problems w the right policy, and anyone who disagrees isn’t “compassionate” enough. Holy fuck the whole thing just disgusts me to my core.

[–]SKRedPill 8 points9 points  (3 children)

In my country, male teachers were once considered to be well above your father in terms of respect.

Now-a-days you think of male teachers in schools and the first thought that comes to mind is pedophilia. It's a shame.

[–]bobstraub 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I don't think that. Where is your mind?

We need more make teachers and perpetuating this stigma doesn't help.

[–]xRisingSunx 18 points19 points  (4 children)

the mechanism was white, christian community values

The mechanism was "community" it wouldn't have mattered if the value were asian and buddhist.

That community was run by males (and sometimes females) with wisdom and life experience. Not only do we have a lack of community nowadays but a lack of respect towards the elderly whose years of knowledge could help us immensely in solving our problems at a local level.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Cue to a 19 year old pseudo social justice thot calling a world war 2 veteran a nazi unironically

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 3 points4 points  (1 child)

For several hundred years in America

^ I was being specific. Don't read too much into it.

[–]OprahIsHungry 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Isn't this what Jordan Peterson talks about?

[–]Self-honest 38 points39 points  (7 children)

Hell, a guy in the desert would drink piss.

This has been my argument for terrorist organizations that seem to thrive in the actual desert. Why do people join? Because their lives suck.

It's not more complicated than that. I could easily see my self becoming a terrorist if I lived under the same circumstances, with the same rhetoric directing my anger into hated towards others.

How do you stop it from happening? Make their lives suck less.

Give a loser an uninspired blow job, dramatically decrease school shootings. Give a desert dweller air conditioning, clean water, and an uninspired blow job, end the war on terror. It seems ridiculous, but it's basic human nature.

It reminds me of Col. Hans Landa from Inglorious Bastards, comparing hiding Jews to rats and Nazis to hawks.

"Consider, for a moment, the world a rat lives in. It's a hostile world, indeed. Where does the hawk look? He looks in the barn, he looks in the attic, he looks in the cellar, he looks everywhere he would hide. But there's so many places it would never occur to a hawk to hide. However, the reason the Führer has brought me off my Alps in Austria and placed me in French cow country today is because it does occur to me. Because I'm aware of the tremendous feats human beings are capable of once they abandon dignity"

These extremist outliers have no dignity. A blow job would really go a long way.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Bread and circuses. The ruling class has known for a long time that as long as people are fed and entertained, they'll do little more than complain.

I'd wager that video games have actually prevented a lot of killings because they keep incels placated. Unfortunately, teenage male sex drive is often too high for simple distractions to work, hence why shooters are young men.

[–]blister333 9 points10 points  (2 children)

The men who carried out the London terrorist acts several years ago where highly skilled in society (lawyer and doctor iirc). Isis has plenty of engineers as well.

Also as far as giving these men better conditions, I believe Sweden wanted to give isis members free housing if they denounced their allegiance to the group.

[–]Self-honest 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The men who carried out the London terrorist acts and the Isis engineers were probably feeling the same way. I don't think it misses the point of the OP.

Sweden is a different conversation.

[–]moneybitchesandpower 26 points27 points  (4 children)

Very true.

The US needs to legalise prostitution at federal level immediately. This is the best way to provide frustrated youths with an outlet for relief.

The problem is the feminisation of society. Not mental health or gun laws. Before one could simply fuck up the person who wronged them. This is not the case because most men run to the police or try and suit when attacked especially in middle class communities. Before these men woul have been derided for acting like pathetic pitiful bitches. Now it is acceptable and deemed socially unacceptably to resort to fists if someone wrongs you.

Consequebtly, most men or boys will bitch on social media. Before the rise of feminism the there were no cases of school shootings.

These shootings are symptomatic of male suppression both sexually and also in terms of the ability of a man to obtain justice in the easiest and cheapest way possible - Through his fists.

We need to see feminism for socially corrosive cancer that it truly is and deal with it appropriately by putting these dogs back in their place.

[–]sperrygarcia 31 points32 points  (1 child)


[–]FlamingAmmosexual 12 points13 points  (1 child)

The US needs to legalise prostitution at federal level immediately. This is the best way to provide frustrated youths with an outlet for relief.

That'd solve a lot of problems but who fights it tooth and nail? Feminists and women's groups. They think it's degrading.

What they really don't like is their power will disappear overnight.

[–]AlexDr0ps 16 points17 points  (3 children)

This is really well-written and I agree entirely, though it doesn't solve anything.

The collective response was "no wonder women didn't like him, what a loser!" This was the country, banding together under the banner of the fempire, sticking out their collective tongues and doubling down on their open disgust of males and their stupid vulnerabilities and needs.

Because it's true, women shouldn't have to fuck loser men who don't try to improve. Women can't understand the concept of sexual frustration and what it does to a man when everything society tells you is against what your needs are. It's a completely foreign idea that sounds ridiculous.

The solution to stop men from behaving this way is embracing masculinity, which has already been dubbed as "toxic" anyway.

[–]blister333 10 points11 points  (1 child)

That is interesting- women who complain about weak, loser men yet hate masculinity.

[–]suitcasecity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thats the whole idea behind exposing people to the red pill-showing them the truth of female nature

[–]Self-honest 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ohhhhh shit. Government subsidized sex robots.

[–]WhiteWolfWill88 10 points11 points  (8 children)

4-6% of ALL gun crime in America is perpetrated with legally obtained firearms.. Retract the second amendment and ~95% of gun crime continues while the overzealous government plots on a way to oppress us further

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

We have killed God, the family, and the community, and we have replaced them with the state, porn, and facebook.

[–]jonib0ni 85 points86 points  (117 children)

Frustrated males at the bottom of the dominance hierarchy have always existed since the beginnings of humanity. It is not a modern phenomenon. Just look at the story of Cain, he's basically the ancient prototype of the school shooter.

Personally I don't see a solution to this problem, in every kind of social hierarchy you will have individuals at the bottom, and these will often be resentful and seek revenge.

The difference is that these men in the past did not have automatic rifles that can kill dozens of people within a minute. Guns do play a role, even though Americans don't want to hear it. There are far less mass shootings in Europe, and I wouldn't say that men are less frustrated over here.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Idk man.. in every case of school shooters it really goes back to a root problem that most of them are emotionally broken tortured individuals.

You can be at the bottom of hierarchies and still smile. I see Mexican guys in New York who probably sleep in shifts and live on bread and salt smiling. It’s because they have fraternal bonding and a sense of belonging..

Every school shooter situation the individual is often isolated and their parents are either not present, gave up, or abusive. Some cases the kid is on psychiatric meds.

Also lots of men in the past way more than today died in battle. I would not doubt militaries would use individuals like this for suicide attacks just like they did in ww2 japan and today in the Middle East.

[–]AloneOnTheStrange 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You can be at the bottom of hierarchies and still smile. I see Mexican guys in New York who probably sleep in shifts and live on bread and salt smiling. It’s because they have fraternal bonding and a sense of belonging..

When people hear the term "social hierarchies" the first thing they think of is money, or political influence. But these Mexicans are not at the bottom of the social hierarchy if they have friends and loved ones who value them. Not many people outside of Red Pill circles consider status as being so heavily tied to your social lives.

Over at PPD a lot of people gawked when I said that being able to get you into clubs is a mark of status. They dismissed it as teenage bullshit, and real men and women don't care about that sort of thing. Yet if you look around you see successful women well into their 30s and 40s swooning over guys who do exactly that.

People need friends more than they need money. If you are alone, having money just feels empty.

[–]vast_rightwing 1 points1 points [recovered]

its an unfortunate cost of freedom. theres a reason America decayed from marxist influences much slower than europe.

similar to the breakdown of the marriage contract. there was a point where both parties had some degree of power so it was a negotiation. there was the option for either party to go nuclear but both wanted to avoid it at all costs because both would suffer from the decision. now, theres really no reason for a chick not to walk - in fact she has a financial incentive. Europeans cant easily fight marxist destruction. Theyre stuck either taking it on the chin or running and never really having a home. And ultimately, failing to fight marxism leads to 1940's Germany... something nobody really escaped.

We can debate all day how to reduce the negative impact of the mentally ill but ultimately the number of deaths needs to be in the millions before we can say simply taking guns away is the lesser evil.

[–]rp_newdawn 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Damn. That last line hit me like a ton of bricks. I was raised by a military father who strongly supported the second amendment. Although my own beliefs are less strong, I do fear what can happen when you combine and unarmed populace with a tyrannical government.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

The difference is that high schools are almost literal hell on earth where a bullied kid has zero options except for assault. I'd argue not getting pussy ranks outside of top 10 for reasons for school shootings

[–]moonlandings 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Maybe. But if they got pussy the other reasons would seem way less significant.

[–]FlamingAmmosexual 15 points16 points  (1 child)

The difference is that these men in the past did not have automatic rifles that can kill dozens of people within a minute.

There hasn't been a homicide committed with an automatic weapon since the 1930s.

[–]1NPIF 40 points41 points  (74 children)

There are angry young men feeling disenfranchised in every country. The difference is accessibility to high powered weapons.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 21 points22 points  (73 children)

Fear not. If an AR is illegal for private citizens in your country (i.e. in Mexico), our federal government will smuggle some in for you.

Means are the easy part. Will is the hard part.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (72 children)

There's plenty of will here in Australia, but means are very difficult. Which is why we don't have school shootings.

[–]manwhowouldbeking 2 points3 points  (1 child)

We do have high suicide rates though for young men.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That supports my point.

[–]drallcom3 1 points1 points [recovered]

There is no solution. There will always be loser males in every society. Hell, nature made it so by having a surplus of men (usually a lot would die off and they're meant to compete). Not even a super conservative society with functioning families, gender separated schools and a guaranteed female works (there aren't enough).

There hasn't been a mass school incident with pipe bombs, an axe or a canister of gas. Killing 17 people with an axe is next to impossible if they're running away.

[–]maplemaximus 15 points16 points  (1 child)

The kid involved with the shooting was a victim of rape and molestation, and honestly he looks inbred and might be autistic. If you're suggesting a lack of sex or female interaction amongst men is causing these shootings, then clearly the problem is mental weakness in society. The sole issue is proper societal values.

Family values have been destroyed, and now you're seeing a lot of rogue teenagers out here doing whatever the hell it is they want. It was just a year ago that a 17 year old being charged with murder, cut off his ankle monitor and went from Texas all the way to New Jersey and was making music and committing crimes on the run.

Come to find out, this kids dad was mostly uninterested in taking care of him and left him to buy his own clothes, food, and really just let the kid do whatever. Both the kids parents were crips. It was just an all around shitty situation.

If someone is shooting because life is lame, then honestly, fuck them.

[–]fromthecrypt8 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Expanding on your cheerleader BJ suggestion (which btw I think should take place at least once per semester, not once a year), imagine if all men had access to top notch pussy as often as they’d like, kinda like a society where prostitution was legal in every country and not stigmatized. I hypothesize there would be a huge drop in crime rates in about every corner of the world. The entire female imperative relies on the power pussy holds over male biological urges.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Notice how you don't hear about mass killings happening very often in countries where prostitution is legal..

[–]nuttin_butt_love 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right? Exactly why you never see any mass shootings in the only state with legalized prostitution

[–]AfraidGarbage 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Way too much emphasis is being spotlighted on mental illness, and gun control (in the media). What this article says is dead on. Im sure though that more often than not people feel inadequate compared to the Jock/cheerleader crowd. Most average joes probably feel like losers in this regard.(social status, girls) But what about the cheerleader who has an eating disorder. Or the cheerleader who has been sexually abused. I believe the problem is that society puts too much emphasis on what it sees. Instead of what the actual problems are.

[–]Merica911 4 points5 points  (1 child)

As for prevention, here's an idea- an inoculation against school shootings if you will. Get the cheerleading team together and simply give blowjobs to the losers in your class.

Okay. First off. No. You don't want the mass shooting done in America soon switch different genders?

I like that you're drawing parallels but, like the MSM, you're just off target.

You can give me 100 males that were born into fatherless homes or being adopted that are losers and I can give you 200 that successful. Steve Jobs was adopted. Stefan Molyneux grew up without a farther and I'm not going to sit here all day firing off names.

And the last boy that did the mass shooting before this Florida loser was actually close to his dad, called his dad, to tell him he loved him, minutes before killing himself. And the Vegas shooter had a current girlfriend.

Let's be honest, we are ALL losing human connection. Rich, poor, black, white. We all become a face of the same color and fronts of walls of text, no real face to see. The more we are online, the less we spend time in person with someone. The more we masturbate, the less we have sex. The more we are high off drugs with intoxicated thoughts, the less time we have sober thoughts. The more we try to put another notch on our belt of chicks we banged, the less time we just settle down with one girl and family build. And last but not least, the more we "just don't give a fuck" the less we give a fuck about someone. There's always trade offs. And I'm bet, we as a society can no longer see the desperation help that one is bearing inside.

The parallels you or anyone can draw is the ones that everyone already knows. 1. A complete Fucking losers and no longer cares about being a loser. And 2. No longer wants to be on this planet and wants to take out as many people with them.

I know this recent shooting is all over news right now but I just don't think you or anyone in the TRP sub should be riding this wave of "Why? What to do? And how to stop it?" Because we don't know. Still this day the greatest Secret is what one thoughts are.

The answer I have for you is that I have no answer and neither does the rest of us.

[–]reggie-hammond 8 points9 points  (12 children)

Funny. I always blame these shootings - and many other crimes and craziness - on guys being unable to get laid - i.e. we need to legalize prostitution.

But on a serious note, the downfall of any civilization is the inability of its young men to provide for themselves (to build a family) along with the opportunity to procreate (or at least initially have sex). If neither are an option, something terrible always happens.

[–]blister333 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Ripple effect of 40 years of a declining middle class being passed down to another generation can’t help. Men are judged by their job and wealth creation. They at least need to have a job that positivity contributes to society. That’s becoming harder for the average man in America

[–]reggie-hammond 2 points3 points  (2 children)

In 1996, for the first time (in the US) women earned more bachelor's degrees than men.

By 2007, there were a million more women in the country with at least a bachelor's degree than men. By 2011, women surpassed men for total number of graduate degrees. And by 2016, the number for bachelor's degrees was up to 2.0 million.

Yet, evidently, our "real" problem is that there aren't enough women in STEM professions even though most women don't want to be in STEM professions.

Its definitely NOT men graduating high school at a lower rate. Or that college campuses are now <40% men. Or that manufacturing and labor jobs - careers with a majority of men - have been losing ground for more than 3 decades.

EDIT: and let me know if you want actual PROOF as to why the "wage gap" bw men and women is complete horseshit.

[–]rashnull 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I have no problems going against the grain here. There is no other 1st World Western country that has this issue of a large number of mass shootings, no matter the stage of ultimate feminism it is in. This is an undeniable fact. Taking guns away simply removes the possibility of mass casualty via shooting. Like they say, what can go wrong, will go wrong! - Murphy

People will always find a way to kill other people. The state of one’s mental health is not a permanent state of being. It cannot be used to determine whether one should be allowed to own a firearm or not.

[–]LavaPipe 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You hit the nail on the head with how society reacts to loser-types. These guys are completely ostracized from social interactions with anyone who isn’t a loser like them. It probably does feel horrible to hold such a low reputation and to have most people not even acknowledge your existence or when they do it’s condescending or bullying. I have a couple friends of friends that are of the incel self defeatist type and they just feed off of each other and really begin to hate women and men who’ve they have never interacted with simply because of their success. The worst part is that shitting on incels is completely socially acceptable. On Facebook there will occasionally be posts of some guy (picture included) with a rant saying what a disgusting objectifying piece of shit he is because of a couple Facebook messages. The comments are always filled with hundreds of women and white knights agreeing that they always thought he was a weirdo and that he’s a scumbag creep. Even here on reddit you can just go on any askreddit thread that has anything to do with gender roles and say something about “I’m an incel” and people will downvote you to hell and receive tons of upvotes just for cussing you out and stereotyping you for no other reason than you admitting you get puss. There’s no escape for these poor souls. No wonder there was such a visceral reaction from incels during “gamer gate”

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is done entirely by male students who have been ostracized and have no sense of belonging... and they don't have girlfriends. They are, by all accounts losers.

Truer words have never been spoken. Not a single media outlet has tied in the fact this perp attacked on Valentines Day. That was no coincidence!

In every previous society guys like this got married young (assortively) and were given a family to raise. Today young men like this have NOTHING and society continually shits on them over and over and over again. When they cry out in pain women sneer and the men roll their eyes.

I have seen it said on TRP before and it is true. We would have a different Elliot Rodgers and school shooting EVERY DAY if not for online porn.

[–]1kick6 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I don't think the problem is that they're shunned. Men throughout history have not been "the cool kids," and survived. They used to retire to their basements where they couldn't be picked on to play D&D and society left them alone.

But we can't have that anymore. We have social media. The ridicule is now literally inescapable. Not to mention, they can't even have their D&D without a heaping serving of leftist shit. There is literally no respite for them, and no guiding force (thanks to the new single-mom family model) to get them through it. The culture has abandoned beta men AND THEN blamed them for everything. Of course some are going to get angry to the point of murder.

[–]MastodonMoney 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I honestly thing that there is no one single thing that causes these school shootings, the only thing we can do is evaluate the factors that are constant across each case. Mental illness seems to be one but I don't think the other factors/causes are easy to identify.

I do theorize that the pussyfication of the west contributes to these shootings but I cannot say to what extent.

[–]Skeptitude- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This post has helped me realise the need for red pill thinking more than anything else I've read in the last year

Props, OP.

Edit: grammar

[–]Andrew54321 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No such thing as a male loser. Just a male who hasn’t gotten into the game yet.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now that you mention it, I have to think of a comment I've read ages ago on a forum frequented by longterm virgins. It wasn't necessarily a dark place - the people there appeared pretty normal, at least in writing, when compared to guys you would meet at the incel-subreddit - but really really depressing.

But the feeling of being wronged (and to get some payback) still existed there, though it didn't look for a tangible target. One of the comments that met wide approval was "if I God exists and I meet him after I'm dead, I'll beat him up" - which is code for "fate/life has been unfair to me".

But more interesting, in one of the threads there, the topic was other (presumed) permavirgins these guys knew, and one of them mentioned a colleague (also a loser and a loner) of his who was already in his 50s. And this guy said that if that guy one day started going on a killing spree, he couldn't really blame him for it.

Which is interesting insofar because when reading between the lines, the message this commenter also conveyed was that once he lost all hope of ever experiencing intimacy, he would also be at his personal breaking point. And this corroborates the point you've made - that the promise, or even just mere perspective, of future intimacy is the only thing that keeps plenty of the guys affected going and not acting out on their (very much justified) frustration.

[–]rorrr 2 points3 points  (1 child)

But the easy access to guns is what makes all this possible. Do you think there are no girlfriendless losers in Europe or Australia or Canada?

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[–]darkskies1094trump 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Blue pills kill.

[–]djentropyhardcore 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree completely, this is what years of calling straight white men "homophobic", "transphobic", "racist", "toxic", "rapists", "pigs", "oppressors", and the source of all of "society's" ills gets you.

[–]pushloveplease 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i appreciate these insights. but several other disenchanted and un-desired males go on to hunker down and make brilliant discoveries and great strides in human advancements. suggesting that blowjobs will solve things is fucking stupid. man up, improve yourself, don’t be a bitch and shoot innocent people. take control of your life and stop making excuses for fuck ups who shoot up schools.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (46 children)

Oh spare me, this is complete bullshit. That kid was a violent antisocial dangerous man. He even had a girlfriend that he beat up. Don't even for one second blame women for this, crazy outliers like this have always existed.

So fuck that guy. Society don't need men like him. The pill is bitter - be a man that society and women need or you can really just die.

[–]FlamingAmmosexual 6 points7 points  (1 child)

That kid was a violent antisocial dangerous man.

How did he get there?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

True, kid got a fucked up childhood. But still, he has to take the responsibility of his actions.

Most people with alcohol fetal syndrome dont shoot up schools. Most people who experienced the death of their mother dont shoot up schools. Most people in foster care dont shoot up schools. Heck, even most people with antisocial personality disorder dont shoot up schools.

So fuck that guy.

[–]LeMishu 39 points40 points  (33 children)

Fuck off with this drone mentality. "be a man that society and women need or you can really just die" Why should I care about what society expects from me when it's giving me back just a fraud of a life, filled with stress and misery? No. If this society is resulting in making my life shit, I won't be a good boy and play by the rules so I can enable others to benefit from my existence. You don't feed the mouth that bites you. Fuck society.

[–]Louis1709 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You had a good thing going until your last two paragraphs with the cheerleader stuff.

This would've been perfect post had you left that out.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Boys and girls should be segregated in high school. I guarantee boys will be more successful.

[–]IndividualSplit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The master produces another masterwork

This should be on the sidebar

[–]Neovitami 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of an article I read a few months ago about the link between societies, that to some degree practices polygamy, and war:


For example in South Sudan your wealth is measured in cattle and brides cost cows. A rich man with lots of cattle can get lots of wives. This leaves women in short supply, so a poor man from a poor family may resort to cattle raids in hopes of capturing cattle so he can get a wife.

[–]Rene-Girard 1 points1 points [recovered]

Logically the idea makes sense, that men become terrorists and school shooters because they are ostracized, unloved and cannot use sex to release with their frustrations.

But there is no evidence for it. Most terrorists and suicide bombers have wives, girlfriends and many children who love them. It's much more common than not.

So, while I agree with your line of thought, it is simply not the case because all evidence says otherwise. Even in general, the more loved a man is, the more violent and ruthless he becomes. Violent criminals almost always have beautiful girls lining up to have sex with them and carry their children.

[–]MethaCat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this could explain some but not all, there are psychopathic and sociopathic reasons as well. Some mass murderers have been described as charming and agreeable. There's also the radicalized normal person that was targeted, used and disposed to further an agenda. Many more reasons like passion crime gone wrong, douchery gone wrong, gang membership, and a long list of etceteras.

The main problem here is to do the human thing and just go ahead and find that one answer than can solve all our problems.

Life is much more complicated, so there could be many more reasons for this.

If all it took was being a desperate looser, considering the way life is, we would have mass shootings every minute.

[–]the99percent1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That cruz kid deserved a fatherly figure who would then smack him across the forehead for the shit he posted on social media.

That would have been enough to deter the shooting.

[–]idigress1337 1 points1 points [recovered]

I used to not really like this sub, but you are 100% correct.

I may still not agree with certain philosophies, but I do agree with people like you in this community.


[–]SKRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like the definition of Toxic Masculinity is in fact extreme Blue Pill conditioning.

But Dr. Glover ("No More Mr. Nice Guy") pointed out in another case that many of these shooters were in fact mentally ill. In this guy's case, he's adopted, doesn't have parents (both adopted parents died), has a history of disturbed behaviours.

Many people, before they become mentally ill, follow a pattern of unhealthy mental thoughts and beliefs until it gets set in their mind. There is a concept of 'conscious mental diet' where you have to actively put in good thoughts and beliefs in your mind every day just like you have to go out to the gym and work and you eat your meals. But that's seldom attended to and by the time you're diagnosed, it's already very far down the line.

Maybe we must have a special chapter on cultivating a healthy mental diet and preventive mental medicine in the sidebar

[–]bastardstepchild 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotta say, that was my first thought when I saw his picture - “that kid shot up the school because the girls laughed when he asked them out on dates”.

[–]bumthoi141 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do not scorn a weak cub; he may become a brutal tiger.

-Mongol proverb.

[–]jefeperro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The real issue is schools if we ban school there will be no more school shootings.

[–]Gozsayin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP brings up a very important point that the media completely grazes over. The Why? Talking from experience as a 22yr old recently out of college and highschool. The common joke in my time was that one of the select weirdo kids in school would one day be a school shooter. This joke never set right with me as I was friends with one of the school's select weirdos. That why every since 9th grade I made it my business to always treat other kindly befriending people that many considered beta blue weirdos( many avoided this for fear of lowering their social status). I can happily say I didn't fall into this trap we're other openly told me to stop hanging out with A or B so because it made me look bad. Despite this I never did and eventually people got over it and I actually saw bigger boast in popularity after the initial dip and along with my loner friend. We never really talked about it but We both realized how far having even one person in your corner can be.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this is true for some cases, but not all. Some people just have a tendency for violence and sadism, and they want to have a bit of fun before committing suicide.

[–]FormulaZer0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The world is a shit sandwich...start eating or else starve

[–]newls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great article that distills the issue down to the root cause. Yes, blame the murderer for this crime, because he decided to do it.

But a societal shift has completely unbalanced the sexual marketplace in favour of women, so much so that they have more sexual options than they know what to do with.

Women have been given such an extreme abundance of attention and sexual opportunities that it has come at great expense to the mental health of men.

Men now experience great confusion and worthlessness because a basic need for female companionship is going unmet in the vast majority of men.

The majority of men are going years without any female attention, and when they try to find out why this is, society gives them extreme shame and embarrassment at worst, and subversively ineffectual advice at best.

[–]phoneticau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

so you saying, women give a random guys an occasional blowjob this type of crime will be less ??

[–]mountassar97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, mental illness applies only when the shooter is white.

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