561
562
563

Red Pill ExampleWomen Are Liars (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1GreenPiller

I was engaged a few years ago, my fiancee and I went to different colleges, she then cheated on me and I fell into self deprecation afterwards (R9K style) I then found this place sometime after. I'll share the things my fiance told me and then I'll share my thoughts afterwards.

*What She Told Me *

She said she was sorry, it simply just happened, the guy kept insisting and she fell in love. It wasnt her fault, he was just so charming and she felt lonely.

What Really Happened

After a few years we became friends again and I earned her trust, I started asking her about her past relationships. She told me she only had 4 boyfriends in her whole life but now she tells me there were more but those didn't "count".

Here is the real bitter story. She told me how the cheating really went down, apparently she forgot the excuses she gave me 4 years ago.

She said the guy never chased her, he was a musician (violinist) in college and always had groupies surrounding him. She said she was too shy to approach him but she made up her mind when her friend told her he was cute (Jealously, Hypergamy) so she made up her mind.

She started following him but he never noticed her.

She even followed him all the way home but nothing happened, she was invisible to him. So then she somehow found him on Facebook and messaged him, and thats where things kicked off and that's the story of The Violin Chad and The Virgin GreenPiller

But I have a bonus story

She had a male friend, a friend that I always found untrustworthy. She said that right before Violin Chad happened she was also talking to him. Her male friend started talking shit about me and then they kissed right before she met Violin Chad.

So what are the lessons you can learn from this cliché story?

Women always lie

Here is a small list of common things they lie about

*Who they fucked (it could be her friend, her hot boss, her drug dealer)

*Number of guys they fucked (some don't count apparently)

*Their past (drug addiction, alcoholism, debt)

*The number of orbiters they have

The *posers** (guy that she treats like a friend but is still somewhat attracted to)

*The way she cheated, it usually goes along the lines of "It Just Happened!"

*The way her parents treat her "They are evil! They won't let me do what I want" (Red Flag)

Types Of Cheating

There are five types of cheating you should be aware of

Oops I Fell On His Dick This is when a woman feels vulnerable and doesn't really think. It doesn't matter if the guy is fat or a loser, she wants to feel love and dick. It's the most common type of cheating and you won't see it coming since it usually happens after a fight or when things are shaky in her relationship, it usually happens with a co-worker or a male friend

The Branch Swing This is when Chad shows up and Hypergamy senses are tingling, believe it or not the woman will do the chasing most of the time. Women always plan a branch swing, so if she disappears one or two days then that's when she is securing the branch.

The Super Chads This is when Super Chads are close by. Women know that Super Chads are unavailable but they will do anything to sleep with them. So when your girl starts planning a trip or going to a concert without you, she might be planning to fuck Jared Leto

The Traveler This is when the girl loves to travel several times a year (models or Instagram whores) these girls usually love exotic dick, if your girl has done extensive traveling in the past you should be wary. You can never get rid of bad habits

The Harvey Weinstein This is when a woman is trying to climb the ladder and has to suck off a powerful man to get there. It's also when a rich man is throwing money at her or when a nerd buys a Ferrari. These men have no game but are rich enough to make your girl hang around with them.

Always trust your gut, all of these things my ex girlfriend did I kinda already knew, my gut knew about The Violin Chad, my gut knew about the poser friend. All of these things she denied with passion, hard not to believe her.

Women are cunning, women are excellent short term planners, and always get their way, they are Machiavellian, they lie, and they manipulate, they are schemers. Their pussy is their ultimate weapon and that is all they need. Use your gut to see through their lies, it's one of the most underrated weapons in your arsenal, never underestimate a woman.


[–][deleted] 106 points107 points  (17 children)

This is why I never got into relationships in college and just fucked. Saves you from being hurt and you feel more confident.

[–]suaressi 82 points83 points  (12 children)

relationship in college is the stupidest thing you can do. literally limiting your life on purpose.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 33 points34 points  (1 child)

I'll add this is equally true for anyone in the military. As tempting as it may be, don't move off base. Tap all the pussy can find while you can--it's almost identical to college dorm life, but the women have to be in better shape.

[–]suaressi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i hear its easy as fuck to lay military girls on base. i also hear there's not that many good looking ones though.

[–]ztqxmf 1 points1 points [recovered]

relationships *ever is the stupidest thing you can do

it's why we endorse spinning plates here

[–]Interceox 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What about a world where relationships just don’t exist? How crazy is that

[–]domo101dc 1 points1 points [recovered]

Yeah, cause women are just sex dolls for your selfish pleasure. /S

[–]mendokusai99 477 points478 points  (11 children)

“Back when I was a freshman I learned a valuable lesson A hoe goin' be a hoe and It don't matter about you stressin' The only thing you do is tap that throat and wear protection And only when she spit it out is when you feel rejection” -OutKast

Words by which to live.

[–]throwlaca 60 points61 points  (2 children)

And only when she spit it out is when you feel rejection

Holy fucking god this guy is a genius!

[–]Supertribi 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Daddy Fat Sacks B.I.G.B.O.I

[–]zyqkvx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm as solid as iron, and just as dense. Is this referring to spitting out opposed to swallowing?

[–]lv_21 29 points30 points  (6 children)

These hoes ain't loyal - Chris Brown

Changed my life forever

[–]assandanguirus 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Song is honestly real as fuck, I really listened to the lyrics and it is majorly red pilled

[–]lv_21 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Chris Brown has this album with Tyga called "Fan of a Fan: The Album" look it up on Apple Music or Spotify.

It's so narcissistic and terrible, I can't even contemplate what a female's reaction to it would be.

When I was still kind of blue-pill, making moves, but not knowing how all of these dynamics worked, I would listen to this and literally brainwash myself into becoming a self-absorbed asshole and it worked.

Really do recommend listening to it in full at least once. This album literally did some NLP type shit to my brain and transformed my personality.

I thought I was so cool that eventually, I started doing the stuff they were talking about in the songs lol.

[–]apskidb 1 point2 points  (3 children)

50 Cent's - Too Rich For The Bitch is another great track that sums up the RP/BP attitude.

[–]Rooibosisboss 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Geto Boys- Let a ho be a ho

[–]LawyerInTheMaking 351 points352 points  (25 children)

*Number of guys they fucked (some don't count apparently)

Women Logic: "I fucked 10 dudes but 3 were one night stands, 4 of them were boyfriends but i never was in love with them, and the other 3 were FWBs. None of them count so technically im still a virgin.

[–]PanaReddit 220 points221 points  (1 child)

I see you have been talking to my ex.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 89 points90 points  (13 children)

See this is why women aren't liars. Objective truth is a male thing. Subjective context is a female thing. If you wrap subjective context with a healthy dose of solipsism, you can't lie; you only relay how you see it and feel about it in the moment. This is why often women either don't react at all or react outrageously at being accused of lying. It just not compute for them.

Now, admittedly, men that have trouble maintaining frame and their emotional state will diverge from objective reality to subjective feeling, as a (shitty) defense mechanism. This is what we call "lying to yourself."

[–]bongohai 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Women know when they are rationalising (lying). Please don't justify it or enable it. They just don't care, as they are wired differently. Many a woman has concealed the true paternity of a child - she knows the truth. Justice and honor are not features of a woman's moral landscape.

[–]jaynan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree that a lot are rationalizing their behavior however...

...He's not justifying their behavior but affirming how powerful a Woman's delusion can become. Often in order to cope with poor choices people create their own sense of reality. It may not last or be a proper strategy but it's better for these women to "forget" they slept with 50 men.

Subjective context comes into play in that scenario though I'd say it's more of a minority of incidences. They stay lying aware of truth.

[–]1ozaku7 10 points11 points  (8 children)

I only ever hear about solipsism on this subreddit, it's like a post gets instantly more value just by mentioning it.

In any case, solipsism is a beautiful way of thinking, since it focusses more on your own mental wellbeing and not those of others. Inherently, humans are selfish and only aren't when it benefits them more than the energy they have to put in. On top of that, there is no point to tell someone something that puts you in a worse position, so lying, and wrapping it in such a context that it feels like you are saying the truth, benefits you with telling a convincing lie, making someone feel better about you, and you ultimately feel better about yourself.

As said, humans are selfish, any admitting your n-count has nothing but bad effects to you, worse than just lying. So by admitting the true n-count, you are in a way going against your prime nature.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

making someone feel better about you, and you ultimately feel better about yourself.

Excellent add on there. I hadn't thought about that but you are right.

[–]SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks guys for these value-adds.

[–]Taodin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You say it just not compute for them. That´s true. But this doesn´t mean we have to accept it. The rest of the logical human beeings also accuse this as lying or having an wrong perception. We can not accept this be telling ourselfes it is ok. If this ok for you, like many other shits women do, you will start thinking everything is ok she does. You will become a blue pill and time after time you end up with her strapon in your ass because everything is ok for you. Stop this immediately.

[–]zyqkvx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could say they are well grounded in subjective reality.

[–]swimminginblue 22 points23 points  (6 children)

This girl told me she slept with 4.5 guys. Now I don’t really know what the 0.5 was about but her explanation was that “ it didn’t really count” . Maybe a midget ? Can’t make this shit up

[–]iwasbornred 8 points9 points  (0 children)

lol he probably came in like 30 seconds or she only gave him a bj or some stupid shit

[–]BonelessSkinless 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I hate this "it didn't really count" bullshit

[–]_the_shape_ 3 points4 points  (1 child)

"Just the tip" or "he only fingered/ate me out", something like that.

[–]chinese-bible 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be honest I was with a girl when I was young in college (and a dope) -- we rolled around naked and did everything but actual sex (she must have been a virgin or something). Handjobs, blowjobs, etc.

I never fucked her since she was a prude/ waste of time. Still .. I don't count her in my official mental count (who cares at the end of the day) -- but still to count as a zero? lol ... she blew me a few times and I fondled her tits, I'll count that a 0.5 lol.

[–]vitamann 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is gold: 4.5! LOL!

I was told THRICE the "I'm a virgin, because such didn't count". The girls where from different countries, concluding that this is universal.

[–]BetaBitchBoy69 102 points103 points  (35 children)

Lmao “she told me her past relationships didn’t count” Yeah this is a typical fucking anti-slut defense, i was talking to a chick at a bar who said she had 6 boyfriends in 2017.... RED FUCKING FLAG! translation: i fucked 12 dudes in 2017 (minimum)

[–]420KUSHBUSH 75 points76 points  (0 children)

*18

Multiply By 3 Rule my friend, Multiply By 3 Rule

[–]ENOUGH_TRUMP_SPAM_ 19 points20 points  (0 children)

And yet you didn't get laid

[–]Dragon_Garoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was chatting with an ex and a friend of hers talked about how after her breakup she banged 60 dudes off of tinder. lol. If you don't care or judge, they'll tell you.

[–]SonOfSparda304 257 points258 points  (16 children)

I earned her trust

Okay, stop right there.

She cheated on you, but you had to earn her trust?

[–]hakashi 1 points1 points [recovered]

This should be higher. Why are you befriending a girl that cheated on you in the past?

[–]Fulp_Piction 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Haha befriending or orbiting? She shouldn't exist to him.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Maybe curiosity about his former self? There's a scene in High Fidelity about this.

[–]AleLibre 1 points1 points [recovered]

You could learn something about yourself talking to your ex girlfriends.

In my case, all of them said the same thing about why it didn't work out: "you didn't pay attention to me and were always busy to me".

Something that's still true :-p

[–]losttalus 1 points1 points [recovered]

So doing the redpill thing worked against you then?

[–]AleLibre 1 points1 points [recovered]

At that time I didn't know about the red pill, I think that I was always a little self centered and prioritized my activities and interests. I'm not proud of that tendencies...

[–]losttalus 1 points1 points [recovered]

But isn't that what redpill and MGTOW is all about though??? I always see people on here preach to "do your own thing and live your own interesting life...and the girls will come running, etc." You did do that and it back fired. Unless you're saying you literally ghosted them then yeah I can see where they would just leave you.

[–]waldo888 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no, she met someone more fun and then found a way to blame the guy...it is always the same thing not her problem.

[–]itsjustsimon- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here. No, you need some common sense. It also depends on where you are right now. If you’re broke ass entrepreneur working 24/7, you wont keep a girlfriend no matter if you’re Bill Gates in the making...

[–]MaxDMJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That right there is biggest reason to doubt the validity of this post's claim.

[–]BonelessSkinless 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Because she's a cunt that's full of herself. My ex would say the exact same thing. I would have to earn her trust and seek her out to make amends even if she was in the wrong. Never wanted to be accountable for anything but then also had the gall to use "I do what I want" as her motto. Women are vile, dishonest creatures. They love to fuck around secretly and lie. All of them.

[–]jaynan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree 100%. Even in my blue-pill prime I told my first Ex that if she wanted me to earn her "trust" that i'd dump her instead. She got over it in a few minutes.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Couldn't agree more; this is why slut-shaming works, if you want to keep them inline. They need to prove themselves to you. If they slip up, and you choose to stay with them, use their tactic and never ever let them forget. Will keep them seeking your approval, instead of the other way around. Don't fall for that.

[–]floresw4 120 points121 points  (23 children)

Girls are more truthful to a chad alpha hook up than they are with an LTR. Maybe it's that they know you'll never commit to them so they have no reason to hide shit from you. Try it next time you're with a plate.

[–]blackbeardbastard 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Amen. I saw a facebook chat of my ex with her summer chad. She met him, had sex the same night and couple of days after that each night. They continued to chat 6 months after that, while in a relationship with me, and she was telling him everything basically while keeping me in the dark. Bitches be crazy when talking to Chad, they open up with their true feelings and shit. Like Chads care.

[–]iwasbornred 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Like Chads care.

This. The less you care, the more honest they will be with you because they see that you are stoic.

I've had several girls straight up admit to me that they had lied about stories they told me earlier on in our interactions. Once they understand you're just fucking them as a plate, you achieve stoic chad status and they'll even start asking you for advice about their boytoys, beta orbiters, possible boyfriends, etc...

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 31 points32 points  (18 children)

Girls are more truthful to a chad alpha hook up than they are with an LTR.

Teh alpha chad cock (eg. me) doesn't bother with some stupid shit as their past relatiosnships.

Past means nothing, by the way, see my last post at MRP

[–]Spilledmychips 5 points6 points  (16 children)

Eh, I’ve been hanging with a girl I don’t want to move past friendship for a year and her real stories are only now coming out.

A girl who has been wanting to bang the whole time and attempts to get me drunk to do so.

Also, agreed, past is nothing, it’s just funny when you cross paths with your exes or they “accidentally” butt dial you at 1am to relive what they aren’t getting anymore

Edit: anylegtypes and taodin are laying down some insights.

Exaddict: goodluck dude, your own reflections help me look inside and find my own weaknesses, so thank you for participating

[–]Dragon_Garoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Happened to me last week. Hilarity with my LTR ensued (not). lol. At the end of it, she was blocking me and telling people how horrible I was... ya.... cuz I didn't answer at 4am nor reply the next day when you said "woops, silly me".

[–]RedPill_Swinger 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Every time I fucked some married/LTR'd woman, and it happened hundreds of time they would talk to me like my best friend would. The hamster is overrated women do fucking know.

[–]iwasbornred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is very true. Whenever I get to a point with a chick that she understands her plate status, they start to get more honest with their stories.

[–]GOODLORD100 28 points29 points  (6 children)

My ex cheated with some fat loser. She was drunk and she said he stayed with her and helped her.

She said she fucked him because he was nice and that was her thank you

[–]throwlaca 27 points28 points  (0 children)

You dodged a bullet there man

[–]iwasbornred 12 points13 points  (4 children)

lol this is honestly the most ridiculous cheating story I have ever heard

sorry bro but ya you def dodged a bullet long term

[–]GOODLORD100 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Haha I agree.

Worst part is, this guy hasn’t stopped texting me about it, or sending pics/videos of their night. Bragging. Wants me to kill myself, etc.

I never even met the guy. Police went to his job, threatened to arrest him, and he’s STILL doing it.

This was 1/6 guys. All equally stupid stories.

[–]iwasbornred 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Lol he must really be a whole new level of loser if he's wasting his time bragging about fucking your ex... I'd just text him back like: Nice bro, glad you got some, hope you can get laid one more time before you die of diabetes

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess she hasn't been responding to his texts. Damn!

[–]Dragon_Garoo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's some serious cringe. And long term harassment. If he was doing that to a woman, we all know the gyno-centric society would have him charged post haste.

[–]hodltaco 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Spot on about the lying about how many partners she’s been with. Every single woman I’ve met lists their sex partners counting only the ones that “meant something”. WTF?

[–]megamanxtc 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The way she cheated, it usually goes along the lines of "It Just Happened!"

Yup! Tripped, fell on his dick and it just, y'know...happened!

[–]EGOtyst 93 points94 points  (47 children)

Everyone is a liar, man. You just pedestalized.

[–]NiceTryDisaster 54 points55 points  (28 children)

Maybe he did pedetalize her. But it is very important for every male to understand how good women are at lying.

Women are as good as lying as most men are with basic mathematic calculation. When I ask you whats 5 times 7, your mind within an split second comes up with the answer.

Womens mind work with that same efficiency when it comes to Machiavellian shit like lying, shit testing etc.

Watching women lie is like watching a world class artist perform his respective art because women posses the same grace and mastery as an artist does.

So I would say this is not just an boo-hoo OP you're an loser post. But a look at deeper female psychology and how they function.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (1 child)

No he didn't pedestalize, he just held his fiance to the same standards that he exhibited with her, being honest with each other, like all plugged in men are taught growing up.

And no, not everyone lies, contrary to some jackasses who think they know everything. Of course both men and women are capable of lying. Like you said, women are a LOT better at it. Because they are so much better at perceiving how men feel, when even the men they are talking to have no clue how they feel themselves!

[–]sourdieselfuel 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lying is like a woman's natural state of being. It just comes so easily to them that they don't question it.

[–]cBIGONE 8 points9 points  (6 children)

Men lie like crazy as well though

[–]blacklightsleaze 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Pff women lie even without reason, just for the sake of lying. Usually I don't believe anything women say.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Not even close. Women lie literally every time they open their mouths to protect their pride and keep their sexual power.

[–]zyqkvx 1 point2 points  (1 child)

And men use their cerebral cortex to lie. I don't know what women are using.

[–]EGOtyst 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Lol. All your doing is pedestalizing women in the opposite direction. There isn't anything special about them. They're just people. Much the same as guys.

Think of all the guys you know. Now think of how many of them you actually care to have as friends... That same ratio should be even smaller for women you care to date/associate with beyond just for sex.

[–]DoNotEatTheTail 18 points19 points  (8 children)

Disagree. Women have to become more adept at promoting and maintaining an image of themselves, whereas men are more judged by their actions. This image promotion makes women better natural marketers of themselves, while men have to be constantly told how fucking creepy they seem to others.

[–]EGOtyst 2 points3 points  (7 children)

You are thinking about it too much.

Like, sure, women a great liars. Men a great liars too, but different than women.

But they aren't super villains, any more than guys are all super noble. It's just that people are all liars.

[–]Taodin 4 points5 points  (3 children)

it is not that easy egotyst. It is like you would say women and men are equal. This is completely against the TRP philosophy. Of course the look a bit similar. Have nose, ears, eyes, mouth, head, arms and legs. Talk, walk, eat, shit and sleep. But... they are living up life only for selfish reasons. If you see it really rational and logical from a distance, you will see that anything she does is in the end only for her desire, pleasure or satisfaction. Completely self-addicted with no chance to get clean. They will never ever do something just for your pleasure or something else. And now the painful truth. Men got brainwashed over the last years and many of them seem to be as feminin as they pussy itself

[–]EGOtyst 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You are describing shallow people.

And yes, women and men are different. But to ascribe being better at lying to women is asinine. Women aren't better at lying. Men are just more apt to believe women, because of the pedestal. There is a huge, and very important, lesson there.

The problem people have is separating the VALUE judgement and their own morals from the way things just ARE.

Yes. Women have a marked propensity for lying. So do men. But men are trained, by dealing with other men a lot, to understand and see through male lies.

Women don't lie better than men. More? Maybe. Idk. The PROBLEM isn't that they lie. It's that you fall for it. Of course women lie! They're humans. People fucking lie. You can add the caveat "especially women!" But that's just being childish and butt hurt.

The point of TRP isn't that women are evil. The philosophy isn't that women are evil liars.

TRP is akin to training lion tamers. It's how to safely hang out with lions, which you want to do because lions are soft and fun to pet and look at. It's tactics on how to get the lions to do what you tell them to, all while not get fucking eaten by them.

This post from the OP is akin to an apprentice lion tamer getting upset that his pet lion actually bit him. I mean, yeah. Lions fucking bite, dude. They're lions. But that's no reason to hate them, lol.

[–]Taodin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idk how people are in the US but when you come to europe you will experience quite fast that most of the people here are shallow and insidious. It´s because they all want to live up the american Dream. Being rich, famous, attractive and surrounded by matching people. So the isolate themselves in their very special view of life and try to avoid getting interrupted by anyone who´s not fitting in their matrix. It doesn´t matter if you are at work, in pubilc or amusing yourself in a club or anywhere else. The atmosphere will be the same cause mostly everybody only looks after himself and creates a bubble around him to avoid losing the feeling of being secured by their own little cosmos. But as we all know, this is nothing than an illusion .I am an open minded person who likes to interact with people and this is just the way it is in the most parts of repressed europe, especially germany or how many people call it inappropriate Nazi Deutschland.

[–]johnbranflake 10 points11 points  (2 children)

He’s not saying men or women are more likely to lie. He’s saying women are naturally better at it.

[–]EGOtyst 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Bah. That's asinine. Women aren't better at lying, men are just more apt to believe women because of the pedestal

Ask women who the better liars are. They'll say men. Because they see through the simple female bullshit that guys are blind to.

[–]ProPotFarmer[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women do lie more because negativity is less socially tolerated... men lie to women more for the same reason.

Men don't lie as much to other men... at most they do it to brag... technically the same reason women do it since men brag to protect their self esteem.

I had sisters... they lie more... they lie for fun... no man ever caught in a lie starts laughing it off... women, all the time.

You simply need to get out more man, you must be another punk bitch that thinks they learned everything there is to learn at 14... guess what fuckwit, you don't know jack.

[–]TooInToFitness104 0 points1 point  (4 children)

That's Tru! They do function on a higher level. Bich shield, sh* testing, a girl MAY SAY "I only want a guy with a sweet respectable soul and a heart" but they only want guys with extreme high value. not necessarily are they all gold diggers but my optimism Leeds me to believe that not all women are deceiving, I'm sure there's a handful of women out there that are good and trustworthy. We Men should probably just focus on how to really keep a woman Master the skill of momentum when it comes to attraction.

[–]Taodin 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The truth is you are wrong. Everything in the world is conflicting. Hot and cold. Dark and bright. Strong and weak. Day and night. Water and fire. Hate and Love. Men and Women. The logical conclusion of this is that women are complete different to us and we just have to flow with them. Better do not listen to the most shit they are telling you and just say yes.. mhhh, ok, aha, oh really? This can not be serious? Why they/she/he does this? Unbelievable..! You have to talk to her/him or nothing.

[–]TooInToFitness104 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I don't understand the last half of your post.?

[–]Taodin 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I tried to explain that it doesn´t really matter most of the time what a woman is telling you. You just have to stay calm and don´t trap to deep into her "Business". Thats a real large area, like a unknown universe. You can do a lot of mistakes and it is quite impossible to get back to where you started from. Don´t get to deep in her Business to avoid becoming her best friend. Otherwise you will end up in every girls friendzone and number one Contender for the Lord of Betas.

[–]TooInToFitness104 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gottcha. Thank you for that!

[–]Shaman6624 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But psychologically there is almost always more difference within groups then between them. What that means is that although, yes, women are on average better at lying and machiavellian things. But there are also women that are terrible at it, and there are men that are superb at it. So this is just a big overgeneralisation.

But it has a use. It's important to not be to naive so it's important to imagine these things. What if she's lying? That's why you need to learn to analyze people and recognize liers/psycho/sociopaths.

[–]KnowBrainer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's why Muhammad's Islamic law requires one man or two women to give testimony. (So her friend may remind her what happened if she can't recall)

In the Bible, first story, first woman conspires with the serpent to curse Adam.

It's in the scriptures that bitches be tricky.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s evolutionary, women survive through their deception, outside of their pussy, it’s their greatest strength.

[–]Future_Alpha 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I try not to lie. But it seems society makes me do just that. Say 'half-truths' and 'white lies' because the rest of society are pussies.

[–]zyqkvx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't lie any time I don't have to for the most part. It makes me congruent when I speak. I don't cheat in golf either. All the golfers that write wrong numbers down look like asses. There's a lot of good reasons to do good things, morality irrelivant.

Anyway, what you said is so true. There's hell to pay ten times a day if you can't spit off some half-lies. Most of them have nothing to do with me.

[–]iwasbornred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is very true. Often it is advantageous to not even say the half-truth, but simply remain silent and take action as needed.

[–]pmmedenver 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For real, dude. And that stupid "chad" graphic is a parody of redpill itself.

[–]El_Serpiente_Roja 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His fiance dude...he trusted her because he thought he could ...shit is fucked up

[–]AHH_CHARLIE_MURPHY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, no, no. It's only every woman who lies. This sub is so fucking ass backwards

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 0 points1 point  (11 children)

This is true. Though men when caught in a lie will admit it, women won't.

When a a woman I've seen more than once tries to sell me bullshit as truth it goes on the tease list. Just something to keep her in her place with lightheartedly and remind her not try stupid lies (not that it stops, but at least frequency reduces).

[–]EGOtyst 14 points15 points  (8 children)

No, lol, Men won't. Some do, some don't. But shit, black pill and dark triad manifesto bullshit go out of their way to fortify and incentive lying for profit, and guys eat that shit up.

Just as important as it is to not put women on a pedestal, it is also just as important not to demonize them. Just because they aren't angels doesn't make them diabolical super villains.

Internalize the fact that, for the huge portion of them, they are just boring, average humans.

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 9 points10 points  (7 children)

It's not demonizing women to recognize that they are not good at taking responsibility / accountability.

[–]EGOtyst 9 points10 points  (6 children)

It is when you say that men are great at it. Hint: they aren't. The number of people, on either side of the Dick divide, who aren't lying cheaters who dodge responsibility is so great that dickering about the finer points of who does it more doesn't matter.

You are right, women are lying cheaters that dodge responsibility. The problem is when people go on some tangent, hating women for that.

Yea, women are capable of evil things. But the only reason to get upset about that is because one originally had them on a pedestal.

My point is that you wouldn't get all butt hurt if you suddenly found out that guys could lie. Or if you found out that some guy tried to scam you out of cash.

So why are people butt hurt when they find out that women lie? Only because they were originally pedestalizing them. Hating women for that would be the same as hating men because you got taken by a scam artist.

People suck, Dick or not.

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I'm frustrated by women's lack of logic (and soyboys for that matter). Just the feels over reals gets tiring. The only way to deal with this is to treat most women like kids and that works well. The reason it frustrates me is that I haven't fully embraced this view yet and that these adult children are good at sounding like adults from time to time.

I think it's normal to experience negative emotion upon discovering greater degrees deceit in the world than expected, no matter the sex of the perpetrators.

[–]EGOtyst 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Sure. I agree with your points.

My main point is this: getting upset about it is done. Following it up with "women are lying harlots!" Is just an unhealthy emotional response. Like... You tout logic in your response.

How is getting emotionally upset at all women upon finding out they aren't noble princesses logical? It's not. Being logical is understanding that women have the propensity to lie cheat and steal. Just like guys do. Shocker.

Also, there are a few cool ones who don't lie cheat and steal as much. Just like guys. Again, shocker.

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You create some pretty strong strawmans of things I haven't said. I agree of the gist of what you're saying each time, it's just the characterization that's exaggerated and you seem to look at things in a matter that there are no differences in averages between men and women in various things... which there are.

[–]supremelummox 0 points1 point  (1 child)

people, on either side of the Dick

This is a great way to say "men and women".

[–]Spilledmychips 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Not accurate, women were murdered forever for men’s opinions and have evolved to out maneuver us in story spinning,

Ie. A woman climbed on me years ago without my permission, the story she told her friends over years is the only story her mind remembers.

OP had a very nice guy phase and did not consider distance/schedule/youth were all set up against him at that time.

[–]ooChrist 9 points10 points  (3 children)

No Violinist has "Groupies".

[–]iwasbornred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol i was thinking this too but maybe in some country

[–]SovereignSoul76 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Not like them fiddle players.....

[–]ooChrist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If your gonna play in Texas, you gotta have a fiddle in the band!

[–]DailyManliness 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Interesting thing to note: not all male friends are beta orbiters, they could be alpha fuck buddies

[–]Dragon_Garoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is truth. I have a friend who is totally this guy. Doesn't ever get locked down, is really intelligent and fun to be around intellectually, handsome, in shape. Pretty sure he's nailing any chick he's spending time with. To some degree or another.

[–]Barvazon 45 points46 points  (3 children)

People are liars.

Seriously, this sub needs to be less ideological and see the bigger picture.

People are liars, women are bad, men are bad, women are good, men are good.

[–]Federkiel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That´s true. Life is no picnic and an egoistical act.

[–]zyqkvx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People are liars, women are bad, men are bad, women are good, men are good.

Yeah lets keep it simple. The way men lie and the way women lie are exactly the same. You can easily see this because the way men and women converse is almost identical. About 25% are bad woman liars, 25% are bad men liars, 25% are good woman liars, and 25% good men liars. None of this rings true.

You somehow have a valid point yet are missing the big picture too. You are using an ideology too. It's dangerously simplified.

[–]smaffit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Violin Chad. That's hilarious

[–]FANAT1CAL_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oops I fell on his dick: Girl I had spoken to the day before in my apartment block appears coming out of the lift when I'm about to go up to my place at 1am after going out. She's crying and just had fight with boyfriend. Within 40 mins of coming up to my place to "cheer her up before she goes home", we were having sex. So boyfriend will think she went straight home. In fact, she was having crazy sex with me in less than an hour and stayed the night. ........ Bonus red pill, guess what the fight was about? That's right, He was suggesting she checked out her friends boyfriend too much and that she might be cheating on him.... She messaged a day or two later to say she's worked it out with him now. No doubt she'll be back on me the next time I see her.

[–]varlogmessages 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think many of you kids need to spend more time dating these women and vetting them out before you have sex with them or commit to them. As soon you see signs of deception or red flags, drop them. Move on to the next one.

[–]jadeoner 4 points5 points  (0 children)

a college VIOLINIST with "groupies", im sorry but this is HILARIOUS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Orchestra geeks are next level band geeks and if you referring to him as "Chad" (God that term makes me cringe), you were/are a bigger nerd than him (if that's at all possible).

[–]zyqkvx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd like to see a movie where a chad walks around and does everything he wants, but here's the twist. He uses all the reasoning women use. A woman in the movie gets the talk, "I said I was sorry, it simply just happened, the woman kept insisting and I fell in love. It wasn't my fault, she was just so charming and I felt lonely." Another plate gets, "It was anal. That doesn't count. I don't want to talk about that." then suggests she needs to earn his trust again to fix it.

The branch swing scene could be hilarious. The "You make me feel" scenes could be hilarious too. Whole fucking thing would be hilarious. You get the gist. It would be easy to fill the movie referencing all the shit people write about they do.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She told me how the cheating really went down, apparently she forgot the excuses she gave me 4 years ago.

They forgot after 4 seconds, hours or days, averagely. Go figure 4 years afterwards.

[–]throwlaca 7 points8 points  (1 child)

1) Women are liars? this is the kind of shit that will get us in trouble. Obviously women are liars. Men are liars too. Maybe the difference is that women tend to believe their own lies, that's why they do it so convincingly.

2) Why you classify cheaters? who cares the reason? she cheats, she's out.

3) She cheat, then you are suppose to believe her when she confess the reason? she's going to lie again, genius!

4) She actually told you that she cheated on you? then she didn't cheat, she broke up with you and is telling you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe the difference is that women tend to believe their own lies, that's why they do it so convincingly.<<

I've never heard it put that way before, but you're right. I mean I always (since unplugged) knew that women lie without realizing they are lying, or without understanding that they are lying. But I always thought it was because they were unwilling to see the truth, that they had a viewpoint they just stuck with, that somehow, you could point out to them that see, this is a lie. But it's as simple as they just believe their own lies. Which somehow makes me feel better and worse at the same time. A woman believes her own lies, and insert "I feel right now that" before every statement a woman makes. Wait until you younger guys (not you throwlaca) out there deal with this shit in the workplace with women in positions of power.

Another very high quality comment sitting down low in a thread.

[–]1ozaku7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Liars? You mean experts at self-promotion?

You're an idiot if you tell anything depreciative to the person you are selling to, women are experts at this because men are shouting it right out in the open.

Expecting women, no, anyone in the world to be completely honest with you about anything they have done in their life is just ridiculous and only to be believed by the socially impaired and deserve to be excluded from creating the next generation of life.

[–]TonytheNetworker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Had a girl recently who cheated on her boyfriend with me. She's a single mom with bipolar and a college drop-out. Poor beta bitch decided to take care of the kid because "That's what strong men do."

We were at a conference in this hotel and she kept sending me nude pics, telling me how much she wanted me and how her boyfriend is too fat to satisfy her. (Dude is easily over 400 pounds). After fucking her senseless she starts saying how "She's usually not like this" and "It's not really cheating since we used a condom."

[–]butter_coffee 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I feel like the Harvey Weinstein is the least despicable of the reasons, at least she has ambition and knows what she’s trading. The rest seem hedonistic, emotional and self centered.

[–]iwasbornred 3 points4 points  (0 children)

True. Funnily enough, this is the one that feminists will hate women for.

[–]antariusz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The pursuit of money is not hedonistic and self centered?

[–]butter_coffee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Money is useful. If you're cheating just to cheat all you get is sex.

[–]thinksquick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Violinist Chad feels like an oxymoron

[–]VivaChips28 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If that were true most women would be diagnosed with serious personality disorders. But it's not . It's clear you've never met , for example, a female sociopath. There's a reason male sociopaths outnumber female sociopaths in prison. They're better at hiding and manipulating - but the average neurotypical woman isn't. Such a sad world we live in. Also, possessing one trait out of the 3 that encompass the dark triad would be a huge advance business-wise , but these women most likely look for a normal , comfortable life. It makes no sense. Sure, normal people lie too, but it's not pathological. Also? You seem very insecure. You'd be easy prey.

[–]nousernamesavalable 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If that were true most women would be diagnosed with serious personality disorders.

I was thinking the same thing. However, consider this: Maybe the reason more men were diagnosed than women with personality disorders, had to do with several of the symptoms already being stereotypical behaviors for women. It's possible that since society already expects women to act manipulative, doctors are more likely to shrug it off to the female patient, saying "Nah, you're fine". Meanwhile, as the stereotypical male is less likely to be considered manipulative, it would be much more likely for him to get an accurate diagnosis.

[–]VivaChips28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, no . Less women remain "undetected" because their diagnosis is often mistaken for Borderline Personality Disorder. Why? Because women are assumed to be empathic and "nice" , often with ugly mood swings. So, they can't be sociopathic , nope. The closest thing is then BPD lol. Also, women are better at hiding it . As you probably know, sociopaths have masks that they switch between in different social situations. Because of this illusion of the nurturing woman , they can easily manipulate both genders. Men usually get only under women's skin (empaths usually) with superficial charm that soon turns either into indifference or abuse. Depends if they're high-functioning or not. Obviously these are just generalizations. There are violent female sociopaths and there are pro-social male sociopaths. It has to do with up-bringing too. So the issue is much more complex than that.

It's important to remember that sociopaths can't feel love and most of their emotions are toned down , though not as much as psychopaths (this is a grey area , many people disagree when it comes to sociopaths vs psychopaths so it's just safe to say ASPD) . So you will not impress those people with emotional outbursts , you will just annoy them. It's safe to say that you won't see sociopathic women around emotional people for too long of a time.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I started asking her about her past relationships.

Why?

EDIT: what for?

[–]RedSkeller 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Are they liars? Or are you stupid enough to take them at their word?

[–]2awalt_cupcake 10 points11 points  (0 children)

thats part of the same problem nit wit

[–]AbdulCapon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to make a comic where the alpha helps and mentor the virgin who becomes an trp alpha that will be an inspiring comic, and also is what all here should do.

[–]2Dmva100 2 points3 points  (1 child)

All women lie about sexual assault unless due process reveals otherwise. Dont forget that bit. Never believe a woman's story.

And good for you to recognize that 'I've only been with 'X' guys' is in reference to RELATIONSHIPS, not pump and dump. It's a classic trickle truth. Pump and dumps to her 'don't count' because she didn't get committment.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Women always lie

... when witnessed by a man from a position of objective reality.

Solipsism is one hell of a drug.

[–]Technico98 1 point2 points  (0 children)

B-but they are innocent creatures.😭

[–]Jonlife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sad thing is, alot of men who claim to be "red pilled" still give women the benefit of the doubt.

Hence why they're walking contradictions. One reason red pill rage even exists is because of how shocked men are when seeing how deceptive women are.

Blue pill Cucks literally kill themselves (or go insane) over shit like this.

Moral of the story: don't try to teach ignorant people. They gotta to learn the hard way.

Edit: good breakdown of the types of women. The reason why women are such great planners, is because they don't have hobbies. Men are their only hobbies. Manipulating and getting resources out of them is why they get out of bed every morning.

[–]grewapair 0 points1 point  (9 children)

This is why every one of you needs to get onto a jury in a rape case. You know the woman is probably lying, so let the guy off unless there's video evidence from two angles.

When prosecutors start losing even the slam dunk cases, they'll stop bringing the iffy ones.

[–]Fulp_Piction 8 points9 points  (7 children)

Jesus, how about use due process and evaluate the evidence without bias. Assuming anything without proof is retarded.

[–]grewapair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The women making false rape accusations and then the other women who presume them guilty aren't worried about due process.

The universities convicting men on the accusation of a woman aren't worried about due process.

You fight fire with fire or you get burned.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

False rape accusations nowadays are a thing in most cases. Men nowadays are too afraid to even look at a woman let alone try to take advantage of them because the law and the court are not on our side friend.

[–]Fulp_Piction 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Guys are creepy because they're scared, not the other way around.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Creepy is a term used by sluts to label and shame men they aren't attracted to. The social game is stacked against us. There's many reasons to fear what woman will accuse you of if she deems you as creepy.

[–]ilikemoozyk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just kind of amazed at how you view the female experience.

[–]victor_knight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. A number of the women I've been with (one night stands) told me they were married only after we had sex. It's not like I asked to begin with but I wonder why they told me afterwards. Maybe this isn't even lying on their part since I never asked to begin with but I wonder why they even bother to tell me after I've cum. My reaction is always "meh".

[–]Staticast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My ex had a poser and a "soon to be Chad". My gut knew it and I rejected the thought. Once I left she had a fling with the poser and Chad till that fell off and she came after me again. Women are nuts.

[–]CarpeNoctem_77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think that it's particularly healthy to assume, at the very beginning of the relationship, that the woman you are into is just going to lie pathologically like that. But you do have to be well versed in the kinds of lies they're all inclined to tell, so your post is definitely still valuable, as you point out a few of them. Ultimately though, once you understand the areas of women's lives that they feel obligated to lie about, it's a pretty easy solve.

The fix is this: you catch her in the act of one such lie, embarrass her a little (not too much), shame her a little for being dishonest, and then tell her that you're 100% honest with her (even if that's bullshit), and that you therefore expect full transparency from her from that point forward (in other words, if she lies to you again, you guys are done). If she's into you, she'll be relieved you didn't freak out on her, and she'll agree. If she isn't, then get ready to be played like a goddamn fiddle by this chick until you either get wise or she gets bored, whatever comes first.

So yeah in sum, women are inclined towards dishonesty in certain areas of their lives. Make it clear as early on as possible that that won't fly with you, because you are a paragon of honesty and virtue, and she'll either shape up or walk away. If she shapes up, problem solved, if she walks away, she wasn't worth it anyway. Next.

[–]DrankOfSmell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]1read1tonredd1t 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i cant stop laughing after reading 'the harvey weinstein' good advice man pure gold

[–]anotherone65 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Their pussy is their ultimate weapon and that is all they need"

only because they know they can lead men by the nose by it. And men will follow them.

If you operate with this world view you're just setting yourself up for a lifetime of unhappiness.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She definitely fucked her drug dealer. But it didn't count, she just needed to get the good stuff for her friend's party

[–]af_007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dont forget that all women are sluts, ALL of them!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lmao great effing post! Love the "5 types of cheaters" part

[–]af_007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's why I don't trust them, women are sluts and whores!

[–]p3n1x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I rarely see here anymore. Stop being cheated on by using your commitment checking account better. Stop handing over the most valuable thing you own for a quick slice of average pussy.

[–]Pastelitomaracucho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone lies.

You start from the idea that you sort of did not know that women could not lie. That somehow, they were different from us, men, at least in that regard. You were putting pussy on a pedestal.

They lie and they cheat as much as we do, because they are as humans as we are.

[–]whodidyawhat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“All men are liars and cheaters!”

[–]simpleafk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always trust your gut no matter what. I got into a relationship back in high school prior to going to college which became a LDR. That was stupid of me but she was cute and innocent HB6 who was going through the end phase of her anorexia. She was 17 years old, 100 lb petite 5'2'' girl and had her personal baggage. I was always trying to fix her emotional and other problems i began to transform into a white knight. I fixed her emotional problems and she was confused about her future. She was lazy as shit and didn't have any goals whatsoever. I ended up helping her study for her SAT/ACT everyday and even wrote her college essay/application for her. She got into her dream school (Boston University) because of me and during that time she began to gain weight. She ballooned to about 150 lbs and with her small frame made her look like jabba the hutt. I told her to get her weight under control or I was done with her. She cried and begged me not to leave and threatened to kill herself. I would see absolutely zero results a year later. I would often wake up early to go to the gym with her even though i worked 12 hour days. Eventually, she began to act cold and distant. She did not appreciate the fact that she got to where she was now because of me. My gut feeling was telling me she was talking to other guys and such but I was never able to confirm it. I always trusted my gut my entire life and I took that as the evidence I needed and I went on a pussy spree. I fucked everything and anyone in sight. At the time I felt guilty but I found eventually found out that she had been flirting with other guys behind my back and using Tinder. Accepting rides from complete strangers because she thought they were cute. Lying to me behind my back and betraying my trust. Hoes these days aren't loyal at all. Once they get attention from other guys they immediately lose sight of who is important. I cut her toxic ass immediately out of my life. I learned from her close friends that she is struggling financially and may have to drop out of the college I got her into. I could not be happier with this news and ever since I took control of my life everything has been falling into place for me. Tl;dr Always trust your gut!

[–]jseph1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ALL Woman are opportunistic. They live by their feelings and if it feels good whatever they said before that doesn't matter to them.

[–]nousernamesavalable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If what you said about women is true, then all women must be narcissists to some extent

[–]Cebu1a -1 points0 points  (0 children)

wrong on so many levels. Sounds like you think like a 14 yr old, constantly thinking outwardly and never self reflecting. Confidence and security come from success not from just pretending. Once you are who you want to be, then find a partner.

[–]Sly21C 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"All bitches is hoes, even my stinkin ass mom" - Bizarre. (Under The Influence) by Eminem

[–]_TheAfroNinja_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The picture reminds of a time this girl I meet in college leas me on. Long story ahead

So like I said. I was the virgin who never spoke to a girl, etc etc.

Meet this girl in college during the winter Semester (January).It was pretty obvious that she liked me or at least was interested in me. She sat next to me every day(I even changed seats to see if she was going to sit next to me or her old seat). Always greet me in the mornings with a smile. I helped her (cheat) during tests. I even loan her my notes. She gave them to me with the warmest smile and thanked me. Don't get me started on how much she used to always stare at me.

When I finally sum up the courage to talk to her(which was bad timing), her response was "I'm sick and have a sore throat. So I can't talk right now." I was too nervous to strike up another conversation with her again until the finals.

Eventually class was coming to an end. Helped her pass her final. She was super happy because she passed with an A. She thanked me for helping her throughout the semester. As we was leaving the class, I took out a box of chocolate I bought for valentine day....which only cost a dollar. Didn't want to get her something too big, plus the message on the box said "you caught my eye". I was nervous as fuuuuuck, but she took it said something like "aww you're so niiice. Thank you. So are you going to be here (in school) next semester?" Me: "yes."

Her: "Are you sure you're going to be here?"

Me: "...yes."

Her: "OK. I'm looking forward to meeting you again. :)"

I was the happiest person in the world until the following Monday (spring semester) came. I saw her again but she gave me this "oh shit" look. I was confused as to why she didn't smile or say hi. But I was still happy to see her.

As I was coming home via train, I saw her walking with some dude with her arm wrapped around his (arm clinging? arm lock? I dunno) I was fucking devastated.

TL:DR meet a girl in school. Got helluva good vibes from her/She seemed very interested in me. Showed her that I liked her by helping her pass tests and gave her valentine candy. Told me she was looking forward to seeing me again. Found out she had a boyfriend.

load more comments (17 replies)