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Red Pill TheoryDon't Get Cucked By Conservatives (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOilx2

Anyone who's spent any time here knows how much we enjoy to blaming Progressives, Feminists, SJWs, etc, for all that is wrong with the world. Definitely an enjoyable pastime. However today we're taking the Hate Train in the opposite direction and discussing the people who didled themselves awkwardly while the West took veiny multicultural dick to the face, vagina and anus. That's right, today we're talking bout conservatives, why they always lose and how not to be them.

Now at this point you and the 20-30k people who usually read my diatribes are wondering: GaylubeOil why you shiting on Conservatives? I mean they basically agree with you most of the time? So what gives? AltRight I'll tell you bro. If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

At this point a bunch of Stoic logical Alfalfas are flipping their shit because I made some bad bad inappropriate jokes. Those same people swear that liberals and political correctness are the devil. But here they are, mad at me for breaking a speech code that liberals spent decades putting into practice. Think about that for a second. They hate liberals but live their lives by liberal rules. Fucking retarded right? Yea super retarded. That's conservatives.

So why are conservatives such losers? Why did conservatives lose on basically every social issue for the past 100 years? Because conservatives are dimwitted and unimaginative. Their most profound ideas are tax cuts and wars. Liberals have the creativity to say: 7 year old Transgenders? Sounds good let's make that happen. Conservatives on the other hand can't even trick a white bitch into having a few more babies. But what about abortion?

Ok let's talking about that. Decreasing the need for immigration is predicated on making women want to have more babies. It's not about forcing them into having babies. When you force people to do something they usually want to do the opposite. Liberals know this and call it the Hegelian Dialectic. Conservatives don't. Which is why some of them frolic in white robes and burn crosses. The only thing that the KKK has ever accomplished is the promotion of diversity. Maybe if Billy Bob Banjo possessed introspection and foresight he'd realize that his method isn't working and never worked. Perhaps then he could redirect his efforts towards funding segregation propaganda like the Black Panther film.

Unlike liberals, conservatives don't have a vision for the future. Their game plan is to preserve the status quo whatever it may be, then lose and then declare the loss a victory. The same people who protested gay marriage are currently Cowgirling Milo's dick. Conservatives stop trying after they lose. Liberals don't. In other words conservatives are always within the liberal frame. They dance to liberal music and play by liberal rules, just not as well.

So what does any of this have to do with Red Pill? A lot actually. The mental illness known as conservatism isn't just a national phenomena. It manifests itself at all levels: individual, family, and organizational. So for example a conservative individual might be an unimaginative dresser. He’ll prohibit his wife from dancing and his teenagers from watching porn instead of creating a compelling counternarative. His company will stupidly and slowly copy it's competition. The Red Pill is a rejection of the system not it's celebration. That's why the Red Pill is Anti Conservative.

Think of the progressive agenda as a masterbating homeless man on the subway. The liberals are the people applauding. The conservatives are the ones yelling angrily. Those pretending not to notice, offer tacit consent. All groups make the hobo's masterbation more enjoyable. The radical solution aka the Red Pill solution, is to spray the subway car with a fire extinguisher and steal the hobo’s attention.

A Red Pill solution is any solution that wrestles control of the narrative. That means shit testing your girlfriend’s shit test. It means scaring your masterbating 14 year old son into NoFap by showing him the weirdos and creeps at the porn store. It means selling Feminists femininity disguised as radical feminism, rather than stupidly arguing. Most importantly, it means possessing courage and innovation, something that conservatives inherently lack.

As the Red Pill train gains steam, more and more conservatives are gonna try to climb aboard. Kick them off. They're losers, they don't have a plan and historically speaking they always lose. If conservativism worked the Red Pill wouldn't be necessary and you wouldn't need GaylubeOil or his hobo masterbation metaphors. Don't get cucked by conservatives.


If you're ready to put in work to make a real change this year, I offer a Red Pill Fitness Coaching Service. Shoot me a PM.


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[–]redpillthrowaway1214 166 points167 points  (39 children)

Identity politics in general are incredibly cancerous. Logic and reason should be above all else.

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (24 children)

In today's political climate, identity politics are the most logical thing you can do. Someone using logic today would realize that nobody else is using logic, so they'd stop being a fedora sperg, and they'd do what works. The logical thing today is to get really really really good at identity politics, not to not do identity politics.

[–]BornShook 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Why? Thats a huge contridiction. If I don't like identity politics, I should get good at identity politics to fight off identity politics? Why even give a fuck at that point? I dont like the game, I'm just not gonna play.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

You can't opt out of power or politics. You can chooose not to play, in which you just get rolled by those who do. But you can't opt out of the system. All you can do is either try to win, meaning adapt to the world of identity politics, or get comfortable with losing, as you seem to be.

[–]BornShook 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'll dabble in it if I have to but my main route of thinking will always be logic. And its apparent that you yourself are using logic right now as well. Logic is still very powerful. Do not overthink this.

[–]redpillthrowaway1214 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Yes if you're a politician but for a regular citizen without money or power, political views really don't matter. In my opinion, time is better spent on other things.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (12 children)

I disagree. We can be the change we want to see in the world. Logic and reason is going to cut through the bullshit eventually and people will see it and understand. Look at Ben Shapiro, for example, he is still rising and he's built his image on logic and reason in the face of retarded identity politics. We don't need to sink to the level of identitarians, we just need to speak the truth boldly, never cower in fear of fucking outrage activist mobs and people will get on board.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (11 children)

I disagree. We can be the change we want to see in the world.

The change I want to see in this world is not to be steamrolled by people with better strategy than me.

Logic and reason is going to cut through the bullshit eventually and people will see it and understand.

Your position isn't logical. Your position is not adapting to the world as it is and that's not logical.

Look at Ben Shapiro, for example, he is still rising and he's built his image on logic and reason in the face of retarded identity politics.

Ben Shapiro is a Zionist; that's identity politics. Individualism is just for you and he would never want it for Israel.

We don't need to sink to the level of identitarians, we just need to speak the truth boldly, never cower in fear of fucking outrage activist mobs and people will get on board.

The fact that you're comfortable losing does not put you on a higher level than people who actually try to win.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (10 children)

You have your own strategy? Sounds like you want to latch on to whatever works, i.e you lack your own beliefs and individual identity.

Shapiro believes in personal responsibility and changing the world via individual empowerment rather than collectivism which is what TRP is all about.

I'm not comfortable losing but i'm not going to 'adapt' to faggy identity politics. That would be being within someone else's frame, wouldn't it?

[–]cdhunt6282 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Since when is ignoring evidence part of reason and logic?

[–]chasemyers 8 points9 points  (1 child)

What do identity politics have to do with logic and reason?

Identity politics are a Marxist tool used to gain frame control.

[–]IwannaFocus 327 points328 points  (58 children)

Conservatives? Liberals? Left? Right? It doesn't matter who wins these days - both ends of the spectrum don't really give a damn about you, me or anyone else here that does not have a pocket full of our One True God; $$$$$$$.

Why is it that only the newer generations feel less inclined to vote in the first place (unless it has something to do with weed, games and other distractions)? Because deep down inside they know that voting is pointless. Society is fucked, and it fucks you even harder. The only ones still voting are the brainwashed old-generation cucks who ate up the propaganda they've been fed with for last 40-50 years - like a fat kid at all-you-can-eat-buffet, and the new political muscle that is Immigrants/WhateverTheFuckElse.

They are not your friends - be it liberals or conservatives. Majority of them are Machiavellian Psychopaths who decided to play the game in order to gain power. You think they sit in that Congress/Senate/Duma/Bundesrat/HouseOfWhatever and think about how to solve all the issues the society is facing? Nope. They create distractions, lies and deceit in order to desperately cling to this cyclical power-structure we call "Democracy".

Fuck politics. The only thing that matters is money, status and power. You want to truly improve and slay chicks by the 100s? Start making six or more figures....

P.S No that doesn't mean that you should neglect game, lifting and self improvement.

[–]cdhunt6282 86 points87 points  (12 children)

I agree with your diagnosis, but not your prescription. You're saying the game is rigged, play on your phone while you wait for it to end. But if you wait for the game to end, you lose even if you choose not to play. The real solution is to flip the board. Fuck their game and fuck them. Destroy the old game and replace it with something we can all play, for our posterity. Civilization flourishes when men plant trees whose shade they know they'll never enjoy

[–]BlackCraneStoic 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Too many people are sleeping, sipping the Kool-aid to revolt against the system. You want to turn the tables you have to do it on your own term as an individual. The collective is complacent in mediocrity but lasting progress begins within the individual.

[–]LukesLikeIt 19 points20 points  (8 children)

A lot of us are just waiting till enough people realise ops statement is true and start a revolt. We can’t win unless we unite otherwise we will just constantly bicker amongest ourselves like all you see on reddit these days. Anyone who talks as if Democrats and republicans are different are still brainwashed.

[–]BlackCraneStoic 1 points1 points [recovered]

On all fronts. Racism is a ploy to create doscord. The easiest way to keep people United under a failed system is to create a scapegoated common enemy from with. Black v White. Man V. Woman it doesn't matter. Caesar's divide and conquer strategy works to this day.

[–]LukesLikeIt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which is smart because categorising information is how our brain functions. It will always be impossible for us to not distinguish these things about each other because of how our brain processes information. We have to understand and teach that there is nothing wrong with being different instead of what they’re feeding us now which is that we are all the same. They know this ideology sows discontent and I believe that’s the point.

[–]cdhunt6282 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The other guy who commented was correct in that "enough people" won't ever wake up, at least not without a jolt. If little Bobby is going to bed hungry and grandma can't get her insulin, mom and dad will follow anybody that offers change and has the ability to back it up

[–]lopsidedlucky 1 point2 points  (1 child)

There will be no revolt. There will only be snap chat, kik and tinder. Those who could revolt now have their circuses and bread. There will be no revolt.

That means you have to win at the game at hand. Not wait for the game to change.

[–]TheReformist94 13 points14 points  (0 children)

ECONOMICS. TRP IS THE AUSTRIAN SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS APPLIED TO SEXUAL STRATEGY.

[–]1Revo_Luzione 66 points67 points  (7 children)

Your cynical nihilism is not a red pill crisis.

Politics is simply the acquisition of power. It is war by other means. If you do not engage, you're simply surrendering. That's fine, but some of us have more gratitude for those who came before us.

My great grandfathers did not survive the Napoleonic wars, fight and beat the Axis powers, simply to get cucked by modern liberals. Fuck that. Have fun getting cucked because you refuse to stand up. At least you're getting your dick wet. Great. You slayed pussy for a bunch of decades, then died. Cool story bro. What have you left for future generations? What did you contribute while you were here? Nothing? Oh. Great. Congrats on the pussy you got.

News flash: At some point, some men are going to improve enough, have enough muscle mass and enough money, enough easy sex, that they will need other challenges. Developing political power, influencing the narrative, changing history--these are worthy challenges for a man who has ascended the tower.

When you graduate from being an advanced intermediate, or even a low level elite, when you become a true elite level man, when you are in touch with your highest purpose, you may see that changing culture, influencing history, crushing your enemies & hearing the lamentation of their women, is a very, very satisfying goal. More satisfying than continuing to fuck thots, which, at a certain level, becomes pretty much autopilot.

Thanks to u/gaylubeoil for vision and the balls to put it out there. The bit about disguising femininity as radical feminism is fucking genius, and a bit of rhetorical jujitsu that needs to be propagated and emulated.

[–]IwannaFocus 20 points21 points  (5 children)

Don't be a sperg that misses the point.....

Following today's politics is pointless because your one little vote won't change anything, it's not nihilism, it's realism.

It won't matter if one is surrendering or not, that is irrelevant in the big picture. What is relevant is that caring about politics will get you absolutely nowhere, until you acquire enough weight to create the changes. Before that happens - IF it does, you are nothing more than a low grade artist, stuck with his hands tied behind his back, with the impossible task of recreating a perfect copy of Michelangelo's ceiling.

If you believe that acquiring power can only be done through politics, then I have truly bad news for you buddy. This ain't the House of Cards, you obviously have seen way too much off. It is real world, and in real world, even politicians bow down before the Money God.

We live in the West, and thus we need to play by the rules of West. This ain't fucking Cuba or Russia, where you can just abuse your political power to gain whatever the fuck you wanna gain. This is a complex system, that at it's core can only be influenced if you posses enough cash in your pocket and a certain understanding of the system, people and current trends.

Graduate from your God Complex before you start talking about influencing history.

[–]1Revo_Luzione 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Don't be a sperg that misses the point.....

Projection. Lots of that in your reply post, and plenty of straw-men too--If this strawman, if that strawman.

There are plenty of red-pilled men who are moving the needle in the culture wars, shifting hearts & minds. That is shaping history.

And this can be done without a lot of money, with nothing more than a phone & laptop, an internet connection, something to say, and the balls to say it, and the social understanding of how to say it that reaches people.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the kind of rhetoric that can get you killed in this era. But, we live, we die, and the world keeps turning.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children)

I think that's a load of crap. Immigration, Net Neutrality, Healthcare, taxes,, Climate Change, etc... All important issues that Republicans and Democrats disagree on.

I abhor politicians, for most it's about the next step in their careers and a thirst for power. But there are still key differences that may affect our lives and for that it's still worth getting off our asses for 30 minutes a year to vote.

[–]lopsidedlucky 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No it's not. What is "worth it" is getting off your ass and getting involved. Volunteer for the candidates you endorse. Find others to do the same.

You'd be surprised how much of a difference an extra 10 people in a grassroots election dropping off lawn signs can make. Seriously, I've seen elections where the winner won by 200 votes. An extra radio ad alone could have switched that election.

Do more than vote.

edit: words

[–]killking72 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fuck politics. The only thing that matters is money, status and power.

And how do you get the most money, status, and power

🤔

[–]uwey 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Fuck politic? Really?

You know only the powerful wealthy statues can ever consider to be a politician, the literal door to politic arena only open to money, power, and status.

The best form of power demonstrations is always politic.

[–]lopsidedlucky 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You need to work with some large companies to understand how the world works. Vast majority of politicians are prostitutes. And they have a pimps. You offer them a deal for what you want and they make it happen. If you pay a whore for a blow job does she have power? Not really, she's just a whore giving you blow job. That's the essence of politics.

You also don't need any of your own money to run for office. You prostitute yourself to the right mix of self-interest groups in the right district and manage to grab 8,000 or less in votes, you're an elected official.

[–]uwey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

vast majority of politicians are prostitutes

Your way to simplify a complex art is ingenious.

You also don't need any of your own money to run for office

Collateral? Play-time? Minimal buy-in is always a hidden requirement, people simply don't let you in unless you have collateral, and even best blowjob in the world needs a fat lip, slow neck, and no gag reflex. (Power/Status/Money=Networks)

Why do you think Arnold needs to marry a Kenndy?

[–]Pie_021 3 points4 points  (12 children)

Fucking finally someone gets it. People are retarded to think any politician gives a shit about you. It's all a charade. Voting is a thing to make people think they are making a difference. You aren't. People want better education, health care, pay, better vacation and leave, etc. Are we getting it? No. We are being fed propoganda from the shit box in every living room in America. Stop watching TV and think for yourself.

[–]refunned 2 points3 points  (8 children)

I work for a senator and can tell you that’s not true. Propaganda absolutely exists but there are politicians on both sides who actually care.

Right now there are bills waiting to get voted on that would increase funding for education, create a Medicare for all system, increase the minimum wage and guarantee paid leave. The reason why these bills aren’t getting voted on is because the majority party won’t allow it. People need to understand how the political and legislative process works before jumping to lazy conclusions amounting to “the government is evil.”

[–]Kingoffistycuffs 3 points4 points  (4 children)

And because those bills are literally cancer. What retard doesn’t know that raising the minimum wage and throwing more money at the education system literally makes things worse.

[–]refunned 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Even if that was true (it’s not) we could do a lot with the money we already spend. For example, we could have paid for free public college with this year’s military spending increase alone.

[–]Pie_021 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If politicians cared they wouldn't take massive "legal bribes" aka lobbying. Sure there are "good" people in the system, but the system is fundamentally fucked. The American people are dying for a good healthcare system, our education is whack, and salaries have not kept up with inflation. People need to break from the Republican and Democrat mindset. It's a scam.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 65 points66 points  (7 children)

Welp, this should kick off another Sperg-A-Thon.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 32 points33 points  (5 children)

Yee haw!

[–]3whatsthisgarg 2 points3 points  (4 children)

this should kick off another Sperg-A-Thon.

This is definitely in the top 3 of your best, and I'm seeing 90% of commenters are a bunch of triggered cuckservatives foaming at the mouth with ad hominems and red herrings halfway up their butts, doing their darnedest to help you confirm your point.

Holy cow, 300+ Sperglenders in their Batman suit with a hole cut in the crotch so they can masturbate to how much you misunderstand conservatism lolololol

While they're doing that you can be annexing the Spergdeutschland.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

The foundational premise of this community is that we are supposed to be noping the fuck out of the Matrix with some dank Red Pills. Clearly the left right is one such Marix that we need to nope the fuck out of so we can stomp around in our Hugo Boss boots.

As always thought the Batman spergathon doesn't want to nope the fuck out of anything and is here to repeat the propaganda they learned in their highschool US government class.

How Red Pill of them...not!

[–]Patriarchysaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Borat: "This pill is red not"

I hope we can all appreciate that we are noping the fuck out of the matrix while we're having this meeting from within it; like flies discussing how best to avoid spiders while stuck in the (world wide) web.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This gon be good. Got any popcorn?

[–]unbecoming-the-drago 1 points1 points [recovered]

Conservatives don't lose. Social conservatives loose. But the conservatives who aim at creating status and power. The most right-wing people alive don't give a shit about Democracy: they own it. Chances are you don't even know their names. And if you do, you don't understand their power.

What you call "conservatives" are the cucks who eek out a living by evangelizing for the real masters.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the first post that seemed to understand GLO point

[–]SoundHearing 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Conservatives lie, liberals are two-faced. Trp at its best is critical thinking and the scientific method, at it's worst it's hate-fuelled whining. The ONLY way to get a head is to think for yourself and build a healthy network of allies and collaborators. Fight for the truth and human decency will inevitably come out of the fight.

[–]SlappaDaBayssMon 69 points70 points  (5 children)

I'm not a social conservative, but this is fucking retarded. You lit that strawman up good.

GLO, this is not your best work.

[–]altheman0767 42 points43 points  (1 child)

Seriously this is a shit article.

[–]BlackCraneStoic 8 points9 points  (2 children)

As hippie as this might come off the real reason why the world has gone to shit isn' t a left vs right Feminist v Red Pill thing. It's really simple if you think about it. The world has gone to shit because there's very little natural Love in it.

People love money, sex, status, power, luxury among other things but without heartfelt love and natural concern for people middle school shootings can be viewed with as much indifference as the stock market rising and falling by 1 point.

[–]BlackCraneStoic 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Conservatives and Liberals are like Batman and the Joker. They define each other in the same fictional narrative. If you don't like the narrative why indulge in the content? Problem with the world today is that too many people are immersed in false realities they dislike so by means of their engagement they perpetuate the things they dislike rather than seeking active change.

[–]jimbad05 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Downvoted. This sub isn't for politics.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The Red Pill is identity politics hence the antifeminist stance.

[–]Lennythetrp 1 points1 points [recovered]

Your post comes off like an unstructured rant where you engage in ad hominem attacks and draw conclusions based on conjecture and hyperbole. Furthermore you also come off very naive and assume everyone here is American.

Go to any other country other then America and western europe and you will see liberal and conservatives aren't different at all. When you have to fight to defend your country and you don't have the luxury of being the worlds biggest superpower your political system is much different.

Stick to writing about women and gender relations.

[–]Merica911 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Your post comes off like an unstructured rant

This.

I really starting to think the OP likes to construct a bunch of flashy "fuck you and get on my intellect" phrases and try to some what make a post about.....?

The OP writing about socialology on LSD isn't good when you're trying to get your point across

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (25 children)

I agree. I like the idea behind the post but the actual execution isn’t very good.

[–]Lennythetrp 1 points1 points [recovered]

I don't even like the idea behind the post. It has nothing to do with self empowerment as politics is almost religious in its nature. Id rather keep things agnostic and focus on the self. I have no interest in politicicking and the reality is our own impact on the worlds system is miniscule. Change yourself and be the change you want to see in the world.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I agree and it should never become the focus of this sub but there is no denying the parallels between TRP and right wing thinking.

[–]zyqkvx 4 points5 points  (3 children)

TRP is focused on the masculine and the nature of women. It's an easy layup for conservatives to act like TRP is conservative because most women are liberal. I don't feel that way, and the bombardment of new conservatism, which is just a cartoon version of the old shit conservatism that was already bad. 30 years ago I identified as a conservative loosely, because at least they pushed the vision of taking care of yourself, and not setting people up for sloth by feeding the bears. Now both parties are in it to forge their name and their family linage reputation as close to King Author's as possible, awhile sucking 100s of millions and telling the 99% to fuck off.

Perhaps the best way get a conserve his ways is to ask how he could embrace either side.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not talking about the parties though, I’m talking about conservative philosophy.

[–]AnonNoDox 0 points1 point  (22 children)

Clearly, his post refers to conservatism and liberalism as it is practiced in America, a place he likely lives in and knows best. He has no interest, nor an obligation, in assuming a global context while writing about this issue.

His post resonates well with his target audience, a group that certainly does not include over-defensive folk who know not much of America’s political climate or who are unwilling to learn.

If you knew more about America instead of succumbing to your understandable jealousy towards it, you’d find this post much more enlightening and perhaps actionable

[–]1NPIF 10 points11 points  (21 children)

Who TF is jealous of America in 2018? Certainly not Europeans. Your country is a global laughingstock, run by a reality tv star with no qualifications for government and the public speaking ability of a fifth grader. Get over yourself

[–]Vrixithalis 12 points13 points  (10 children)

As an Australian, I have to say the US is more fucked up socially and demographically, but Europe is way more cucked politically.

[–]1NPIF 20 points21 points  (7 children)

"Cucked" has got to be one of the most over used terms on this sub, so much so it's lost any semblance of meaning. Use your words, Kangaroo Jack. What is your actual grievance with EU politics? The social progressivism? The influx of migrants? Speak English, not memes.

[–]LukesLikeIt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Let’s remove emotion so we can have a discussion instead of thinly veiled insults.

[–]zyqkvx 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I've read 'Europe is more cucked' several times in the past and have no idea what that means. Please tell us what cucked means in this context without using another word like cucked. I want to know what point you were making. Do you mean woman's influence on government?

[–]gaytheistfedora 1 point2 points  (4 children)

You're not even jealous of free refills? Or A/C pretty everywhere? Or our incredible interstate highway system?

[–]SnowMonkeyCracker 3 points4 points  (2 children)

A classic example of blue-pill conservatism is Prager U's assertion to be a man and get married. Why? Because married men work more hours and earn more money! However, no mention is made of divorce rape or overall quality of life.

[–]Nightshade37 34 points35 points  (8 children)

I'm a conservative first and foremost because I believe the constitution of the United States should be preserved and that basically the government sucks at just about everything. It should be as small as possible. Personal responsibility is emphasized which is extremely RP.

A liberal soy boy blames the world for his problems and demands that daddy government come in and help him. He bitches that if only the government was big enough that societies problems would go away. A liberal soyboy believes that I feel therefore it must be true or it is automatically good and everyone should fall in line with my feelings. It's about feeling better about oneself than actually helping anyone. It is about having a feeling about something then going out to find facts to justify that feeling instead of looking at all of the evidence first then coming to your own conclusion about the world.

[–]TooHoly999 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Modern "liberalism" is rooted in having the government take care of people. Classical liberalism is rooted in one taking care of themselves.

Anyone who wants an entity to take care of them, rather than creating an environment in which they can thrive, is inherently beta.

[–]Auphor_Phaksache[🍰] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I hate TRP because I love it so much. When you keep what is useful and disregard what isn't, this place truly is golden. Unfortunately a lot of in-fighting about what is useful to who. Read and apply whats needed to your situation. This is structure not scripture.

[–]yuyevin 42 points43 points  (29 children)

This is why I’m a libertarian. Too liberal to be a republican, too conservative to be a Democrat

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Then just wait for GLO's troll post about how libertarian are the worst.

[–]modTheRedPike 1 point2 points  (2 children)

And the point of that post will also blow past three quarters of reddit and I'll have a long day of playing Whack-A-Sperg, as everyone gets all vaginal and PMS-y.

I'm going to have to start sending GLO bills for my time.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll mail you a Herclues Tank Top if it makes you feel better.

[–]KnowBrainer 28 points29 points  (11 children)

There is enough room between the modern Republican and Democrat for dozens of reasonable political parties.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 27 points28 points  (1 child)

If they were reasonable solutions within the confines of the overton window the Red Pill wouldn't exist.

[–]KnowBrainer 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I had to look that one up.

Reading about strategies of application I see:

deliberate promotion of ideas outside of it, or "outer fringe" ideas, with the intention of making less fringe ideas acceptable by comparison.

Like the MSM continually telling us that broadcasting a mass shooter's identity creates copycats, then they broadcast mass shooters, then push for stricter gun control.

[–]csehszlovakze 1 points1 points [recovered]

There would be, except the American voting system creates this de facto two party state that you already have. Both the Republican and the Democratic Party knows this well enough not to even think about touching it, and thanks to that most of your elections are nothing more than a joke with most states not even thinking about alternatives.

[–]KnowBrainer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep. System working as intended: no new entries into the political landscape.

[–]monkeysword88 1 points1 points [recovered]

Letting people do whatever the fuck they want is how things got so shitty. I used to be a libertarian too.

[–]wracky272 9 points10 points  (6 children)

Too liberal to be a republican, too conservative to be a Democrat

That would make you a centrist. Do you know what libertarianism is or are you hipster bandwagoning?

[–]yuyevin 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Ok let me be more specific. I am socially liberal, but fiscally conservative.

[–]Woodie327 9 points10 points  (1 child)

"Socially liberal but fiscally conservative" could be misconstrued as you believe in black lives matter and 68 genders but you think bitcoin is too dangerous of an investment

[–]steini1904 1 point2 points  (0 children)

bitcoin is a shitty investment.

transaction fees are insane, waiting times even more so. Relying on a algorithm designed to devalue the currency in a few decades tops it all.

The bitcoin market is a ticking time bomb an in order to deterministically trade on it you need to react within time limits shorter than the approval time of your transactions. Unless of course you have enough processing power available to just mine the bloody block on your own

It's playing lotto with the temptation of leverage. I'd rather bet on Russian Roulette with 5 rounds.

[–]octriathlete 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Dude you have a very unrealistic perspective of what is going on in the country.

[–]NSFWIssue 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Ironically he has a perspective based on identity politics, which is firmly in the realm of progressivism. Conservatism is a culture-wide cooperative illusion from which everyone can benefit if they choose to participate. Progressivism is the idea that you can flip over the table and you just might be able to come out on top in the resulting scramble, and if you don't you can just keep trying because all societies are fundamentally run by conservative principles. It's the ideology of rats, and OP's argument is that "rats get what they want" so you should try to be like a rat. (Actually, that's giving progressivism too much credit, because at least rats care for their young)

[–]chaseemall 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What the hell do you mean we can't win by opposing the liberals on x, then once x passes, accepting x as hallowed tenet of conservatism? What are you saying? That we're cucks? How dare you! When opposing women's suffrage was the right thing to do, we opposed it. But once it was clear that Women's suffrage was in keeping with conservative principles we accepted it. And when we let Reagan ban machine guns and allow no-fault divorce and amnesty for illegals, those were conservative positions, and don't you dare criticize him for it! And we might have been the first ones to propose Obamacare, but when it came time to oppose it, we did! But of course we couldn't repeal it when it came time. It was the status quo once it passed. After all, we're conservatives and we conserve the status quo, whatever the hell it might be.

[–]1kick6 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Conservatives are uncreative losers, but theyre really good at keeping the wheels on things that already exist. You want a liberal to think of new products, and make a company, but a conservative to run it so it doesn't implode.

The problem with conservatives is that they reliably fail to conserve anything. Well, except for liberal progress. Then the libs move the chains. And conservatives begin to conserve that.

[–]AmeriStasi 16 points17 points  (8 children)

You can say what you will, but demographic data speaks for itself. Conservatism is likely genetic.

Ever since the introduction of mass birth control, and feminism, the liberal birthrate has tanked and is now far below replacement (reducing their population 30%-50% every generation, where as the conservative birthrate is stable, or in a surplus. When you compare liberal vs conservative states, you already see a difference in fertility rates. Given that most conservative states have liberals, and most liberal states have conservatives, one can assume that the divergence when isolating to genetic political bias is even greater.

When you compare traditionally liberal vs conservative groups of people, such as the religious vs the atheists, you see that atheists have sub-replacement fertility rates (thus slowly being eliminated), while the conservatives are a growing population across the board. Religiously unaffiliated sitting around 1.6 births per woman (2.1 as replacement). Christians at 2.6, Muslims at 2.9.

When solely isolating to Jews, and looking at the differences in behavior between Conservative vs Liberal Jews, you see the conservative ones are more likely to be married young, while the conservative orthodox Jews have a fertility rate of 4.1, and irreligious Jews have a fertility rate of 1.5, making them sub-replacement, evolutionary dead-ends.

When looking at the Mormons, we see that they are more likely to be married at a younger age, and have a fertility rate of 3.4, far higher than your average Christian.

Reality doesn't care about your ideology - whether you believe in Marxism, Feminism, Christianity, Islam, or the tenets of the Red Pill. All it cares about is results, and a declining fertility is a sign of a weak group of people with a dark future. If your ideology leads you a sub-replacement fertility rate, how can you argue your ideology is successful. It's successful at weeding out your degenerate genetics from humanity, because you can't critically identify which ideologies benefit your self-interests, and which don't.

What do you think the fertility rate is of these childless idiots I read comments from on this sub, that get vasectomy's and never marry. You'll be gone, and conservative, people with children will replace you. The future looks more like us, and less like you.

Every generation from now, moving forward, will be increasingly conservative. There are likely less liberal genetics in existence in the younger cohort of Americans in 2017, than there were in the young cohort of the 70's, as those childless, feminist, liberal women hit their 40's and see the end of their fertility window... And the liberal men that chose to tie their fate to them are childless alongside them. 25% of German women in their 40's are childless. 20% of American women born between 1962 and 1966 are childless. This childlessness most certainly disproportionately affects liberal parents who are promoting feminism, liberalism, and other degenerate anti-patriarchal ideologies to their children. We're experiencing one of the greatest evolutionary events in modern history, on par with WW2. We're seeing the weak, liberal genetics being completely obliterated from the gene pool, with only patriarchal conservatives being spared. In 3 generations time, you'll basically have everyone selfishly looking out for themselves, with strong in-group preferences. We'll have Conservative Europeans, competing with other Conservative ethnic groups, and an ever-decreasing minority of old, liberals in their 70's and 80's dying alone, with no children to give a fuck about them, in depressing facilities where the state will put sick, soon-to-be-dead, childless, old folks. Feminism has absolutely destroying Liberalism. It's fucking glorious, and worth eating popcorn while cheering from the sideline. The only thing conservatives need to do is prepare for the fall out from the liberals dying off, and inheriting their broken systems. We'll need to form new countries in a few generations time, and restructure society. It's just a matter of a time and a few generations at this point.

[–]jimbad05 8 points9 points  (2 children)

When you compare traditionally liberal vs conservative groups of people, such as the religious vs the atheists, you see that atheists have sub-replacement fertility rates (thus slowly being eliminated)

Ridiculous fallacy, as you're assuming that the religion of the parents always dictates the religion of the child.

By your logic, religion is an unchanging characteristic like race. You're suggesting that atheists are only born from atheists, christians from christians, etc.

In reality, most of the atheists or otherwise "religiously unaffiliated" were born from religious parents.

[–]chaseemall 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is a massive white pill. Saved.

[–]hibloodstevia 10 points11 points  (1 child)

So, is this become a shill sub now?

[–]firezenukes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Everyone in this thread is literally dumber for reading that.

[–]BornShook 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The liberals who just say and post straight up retarded shit just need to be 100% ignored by everybody. We have been told by the media that we should be focusing on transgenders and feminism. Now they are all over the place. We shouldnt have listened to the msm to begin with and none of this lunacy would have happened. Its all a big distraction to get us all to watch, and it is supposed to stir up debate and piss people off. The media is making money off that shit. Theyre making money on us being divided on everything. Neither side has all the right answers. Just pick a side and stfu about it. If somebody actually cares about transgender rights, ask yourself why do they believe what they believe.

[–]C_Till 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love the right hate you get when you call them on their bullshit.

Oh, you hate the left? You must be a red blooded 'murcian gay basher like me!

Nah fam, both of you are idiots.

rage begins

[–]1AlfredKinsey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A lot of young dudes need to hear this. SJW hate is easy, being critical of reactionary conservative responses that feel good and sound nice is not so easy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 8 points9 points  (2 children)

If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

I feel like that last one metaphor went through the roof. Or a chimney.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm surprised how.any people lost their shit at everything but those three statements.

Which we're truly the most provocative

[–]Work_In_Progress92 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is why I never buy into the liberal/conservative garbage. They both like to victimize themselves, just on different matters and issues.

Great post GLO as always.

[–]FullMetalAsshole 7 points8 points  (4 children)

GLO is right. Part of the problem is the Anglo bias towards systemization and rigid processes. Look into any non AngloGermanic country in the world and you'll see that people tend to be much more flexible in their approach to problem solving. Just look at corruption. Largely economically motivated. If you're a poor shmuck being underpaid to be a paper pusher that bribe starts looking mighty nice. Ask any immigrant and they'll say the US is retardedly rigid and that the people in general lack imagination.

Couple this situation with some of them good old Ashkenazi intelligence genetics and now you know why ze Juden run the SJW power hour. Growing up in a chaotic culture and having the intelligence to take advantage of it will do that. The counter example would literally be the entire continent of Africa.

[–]chaseemall 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That lack of amoral imagination is better called ethics, and it is the reason that Anglo-Germanic societies have a high degree of trust. That high degree of trust is why the place economically flourishes.

[–]textualintercourse 13 points14 points  (10 children)

SJW: "It's my right to cut off my cock and then try to pass a law to force you to fuck me! REEE! | Religious Right: "It's my right to not bake your cake and then try to pass a law for you to not have sex at all unless after you're married and then only for kids! Beta Bux is me! REEE!"

BOTH are selfish fucking ideologies that want to control and legislate how YOU live.

Same coin, same approaches, just different bullshit.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Conservatism philosophy is good but the people who represent us in Washington and the media are absolute cuckolds. It’s exactly why Trump is such a breath of fresh air, he’s the first Republican I’ve ever known to punch back at the lunatics.

[–]thetotalpackage7 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I think GLO is correct in his assessment that most conservatives play in the crazy left's frame which is a losing strategy. But Trump re-wrote the playbook on how to deal with crybabies who are used to having their way. He comes out swinging, doesn't play by their rules (or the media's)...and it is making them nuts.

[–]Fearofthedark88 16 points17 points  (16 children)

Good post. People assume red pill ideology is conservative by nature, I applaud you challenging being dogmatic about political orientation.

[–]bl_12 1 points1 points [recovered]

The post is whatever. And meta. There's a difference between being a conservative-minded person and a bandwagon NeoRepublican who follows the bouncing ball. TRP is absolutely conservative by nature and it's not going to do much for you to engage in a life of leftist degeneracy if you want to better yourself long-term.

[–]factor8_ 1 point2 points  (9 children)

I would argue that being progressive (on economics) is the most red pill ideology. Helping those who are weaker than yourself rather than shitting on them to boost your ego.

[–]killking72 7 points8 points  (8 children)

I would argue that being progressive (on economics) is the most red pill ideology.

How is giving people free shit RP?

[–]factor8_ 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Helping people who are less fortunate than you is the most alpha thing you can do tbh. Plus public healthcare and education is good economics, but this isn't the place to have that argument.

[–]Fearofthedark88 1 point2 points  (5 children)

That is definitely an oversimplification of what progressive policies aim to do.

[–]Omnibrad 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Nobody cares what they aim to do. We only care what they actually do.

[–]Fearofthedark88 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I could say the same about conservative policies as well. Reality is, there is some truth to both ideologies.

[–]Omnibrad 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Bullshit. Neither side is telling you the truth. "The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" - you won't find this in politics.

[–]Fearofthedark88 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Exactly. This is why you need to read between the lines and inform yourself.

Reality is much more nuanced than black or white thinking.

[–]SILENTSAM69 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Ah, a breath of fresh air. I had started thinking I was going to have to take TRP lessons, but leave the community as it is too conservative.

I remember someone started a group called TheRedhillRight and thought it was either a step in the wrong direction, or a way to get all the conservatives to go talk that stuff over there. I made a joke saying we should also have TheRedPillLeft.

Obviously TRP should reject the ignorance of seeing things from a premade perspective. You have your perspective. You are an individual.

[–]ProPotFarmer[🍰] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

'Conservative' is a meaningless term.... it is supposed to be used as opposed to Progressive and Revolutionary.

Not VS liberal.... nearly all 'conservatives' are CLASSICAL LIBERALS.

Liberals... are simply MARXISTs.

Libertarians piss off both sides because they are the only ones that aren't fucking retarded. Look into it. Stop being a liberal cuck... its just as bad as being a religious cuck.

[–]earthmother92 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I actually agree with you.

[–]randarrow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Conservatism isn't a movement, it doesn't have a plan. It is a mode. It served a function in history, by being an alternative to liberalism, in that it gave other chances to survival. This transcends cultures and religions.

In times of scarcity, war, and disease; conservatism is often the best defense against death. When there were no doctors, and the survival of the community required everyone to breed and be successful, the conservatives may have been only one to survive.

Don't act like it is any more or less wrong than other modes, it simply has it's time.

Ie, in an isolated community of a few hundred people, for a few hundred years, MGTOW/spinsters would destroy them. Failure to breed results in dying out and inbreeding. Polygamy results in inbreeding. Non-kosher food results in parasites. Social strife prevents and chance to survive when everyone has to work. Homosexual men are much more vulnerable to disease, in an age without doctors they would have been miserable and hurt survival of communities.

In a crowded/diverse community, free sex results in veneral disease which might actually kill people.

In many ways, conservatism results in self quarantining and ensures healthy breeding patterns. Which has been necessary at times, and a hindrance at others.

(And of course, liberalism has benefits at times and conservatism has issues at times). But, we're talking Plymouth vs Roanoke vs Coatoan vs Soddom here. Many communities and villages ended up in similar situations over the millenia.

[–]ShadowOfAnIdea 5 points6 points  (3 children)

The conservative solution is to bundle disapproval of the masturbating homeless man with tax policy that benefits wealthy conservatives.

Using moral issues as an incentive for lower and lower middle class Americans to vote against their own financial best interest is hijacking the narrative.

[–]boxrlvr 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Gonna be a sad day when we get taxed for masturbation. It could pay off the national debt though.

[–]1by1is3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At $1 per fap tax, it would take approx 1000 years to pay off the national debt

[–]GoGetting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The issue is in the name. When all you try to do is conserve the way things are, while the other side keeps swinging the wrecking ball, things obviously can't get better. You're just trying to conserve an increasingly shit thing.

So if you want to actually revert things, I'm sure there's a better term.

[–]wertrax 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty obvious if you ask me, anyone who reads the sidebar (especially the misandry bubble) knows that most of the bluepill chivalry shit came from conservative loosers that only can consent to sjw at some point.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get you, civic nationalism which conservatives put forward is weird, since it is essentially a form of cucking. You're putting people of different kin together and saying they're indistinguishable to gently lubricate that Globalisation dick for your sweet Swedish asshole.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well, this trp escalates quickly. From how to be a man to there is only one truth... Every time when someone is trying, even subconciously, force me to his own truly right, my BS alert lights up. And it's even worse because that comes from celebrity of trp.

[–]goldaxis 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Complete lack of historical education and knowledge of current affairs. I don’t even know where to begin. Every single word I wrong.

[–]molokomoloko 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You lost me at “Gaylubeoil”

[–]theadj123 1 points1 points [recovered]

Stick to talking about banging bitches, you suck dick at talking about politics.

[–]Hailteni NaHalitenina[M] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Attack the idea, not the man.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 14 points15 points  (14 children)

You just proved my point that conservatives are uncreative losers. You can't refute my claim so here you are responding to my narrative with a non argument. Your also too retarded to come up with a counternarative.

Your comment proves my argument.

How about you put a quarter in your asshole cuz you just played yourself?

[–]theadj123 20 points21 points  (7 children)

This is an unstructured rant made to do nothing but shit stir with your edgy attempts at humor that I'm sure work on bitches, but they don't work on someone who applies any sense of logic. I'll bite and refute your claims. I'm sure you'll mock since you don't really give a shit about anyone's reply unless it says "hey GLB I bought one of your shirts", but that's OK.

However today we're taking the Hate Train in the opposite direction and discussing the people who didled themselves awkwardly while the West took veiny multicultural dick to the face, vagina and anus. That's right, today we're talking bout conservatives, why they always lose and how not to be them.

A core component of conservatism is that people are free to do as they wish as everyone is in control of their own life. If people want to take veiny multicultural dick to all their holes, that is their choice. This is no different than being 'accepting' of LGBT people - I support anyone's right to fall into those categories, but despite what GLB may say I'm not into that. Unlike some Broward County deputy sheriffs recently, we have no duty or requirement to try to act here. Also an Appeal to Emotion, specifically guilt for 'standing by while <taking dicks in holes> happens' - quit shit testing then trying to say you want a logical response.

Now at this point you and the 20-30k people who usually read my diatribes are wondering: GaylubeOil why you shiting on Conservatives? I mean they basically agree with you most of the time? So what gives? AltRight I'll tell you bro. If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

The Republican party ended slavery and radical communists ended the Czar. You are trying to imply that the status quo is inherently conservative, which is simply not true. I would define the core ideal of conservatism as being able to be in charge of the decisions made in your life for yourself. We obviously make trade-offs in places for that: we limit the power of minors and the mentally handicapped to make their own choices, in the US we have a republic that lets us offload some decisions to others on our behalf, etc. I certainly wouldn't consider an absolute monarchy a conservative form of government, the authoritarian nature of such a regime where the state is one (wo)man and their will is imposed on others directly without checks and balances of any form is the antithesis of conservatism. Such an argument is supported by the Nolan Chart, which specifically deals with those wild swings of authoritarian and libertarian governments that aren't exactly left-right divided. Bringing up Germany is again a poor example as National Socialism is so far into the authoritarian realm as to be the most extreme of right wing governments. Being right wing isn't inherently conservative, especially in such a case where your personal freedoms and choices are curtailed by the state in favor of itself at both an economic and social level.

At this point a bunch of Stoic logical Alfalfas are flipping their shit because I made some bad bad inappropriate jokes. Those same people swear that liberals and political correctness are the devil. But here they are, mad at me for breaking a speech code that liberals spent decades putting into practice. Think about that for a second. They hate liberals but live their lives by liberal rules. Fucking retarded right? Yea super retarded. That's conservatives.

Agreed, fighting by "their" rules is a good way to lose. Ironic since I'm responding to your blatant shit post, but I argue boredom after getting to work.

So why are conservatives such losers? Why did conservatives lose on basically every social issue for the past 100 years? Because conservatives are dimwitted and unimaginative. Their most profound ideas are tax cuts and wars. Liberals have the creativity to say: 7 year old Transgenders? Sounds good let's make that happen. Conservatives on the other hand can't even trick a white bitch into having a few more babies. But what about abortion?

Your 'past 100 year' examples are pretty much only post 1970 examples. I would use examples like the Interstate System in the US as a great example of conservative ideas. It put people to work who needed it post WW2, it resolved a national problem (easier military movement across the country on ground), and it greatly increased the ability of the individual to move around on their own. In the modern day you can get to an interstate and travel to any major city in the US pretty damn fast without much hassle. I would also argue that most of the social issues post 1970 that the Republican party (note - I did not say conservatives, just the Republican party) has focused on are due to the change in the party due to Nixon's Southern Strategy. In my opinion this is the downfall of the Republican Party and why Trump has so many supporters right now, he isn't a 100% religiously driven wacko and is pragmatic. You say 'creativity' in liberals just coming up with things like 7 year old transgender kids, I say it's a giant shit test wrapped in an appeal to emotion bow. Logic doesn't care about emotion, so emotional arguments just fall flat. Just because they say something is true, like a chick having a dick, doesn't make it so. Conservatives that argue for banning abortion argue that the unborn has rights, whereas those that want abortion legal say that the already independent female citizen has rights that supercede the unborn's rights. That's a logical pair of statements that have to be evaluated, there's nothing emotional about them. No one's trying to trick anyone into having more babies, any attempt to do that is just another emotional appeal.

Ok let's talking about that. Decreasing the need for immigration is predicated on making women want to have more babies. It's not about forcing them into having babies. When you force people to do something they usually want to do the opposite. Liberals know this and call it the Hegelian Dialectic. Conservatives don't. Which is why some of them frolic in white robes and burn crosses. The only thing that the KKK has ever accomplished is the promotion of diversity. Maybe if Billy Bob Banjo possessed introspection and foresight he'd realize that his method isn't working and never worked. Perhaps then he could redirect his efforts towards funding segregation propaganda like the Black Panther film.

Decreasing the need for immigration has nothing to do with women having more babies, you're arguing from the frame of a Democrat by stating that. If we want to maintain some arbitrary growth number we need to do that, however nothing says we need to do that beyond the giant welfare state that Democats have built up in the form of Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, etc. As a conservative I certainly don't believe it's necessary. You state that this is the Hegelian Dialectic, I disagree (and fuck you for reminding me of Phenomenology of Spirit, I hated going through that almost as much as I disliked Kant). The Hegelian Dialectic comes in the form of "here's an argument/problem", "here is a solution", "ok we have a resolution to the problem". Unless you are trying to infer that by forcing someone to start from their frame that Democrats are starting the dialectic with a false argument, I don't see the relation.

[–]theadj123 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Unlike liberals, conservatives don't have a vision for the future. Their game plan is to preserve the status quo whatever it may be, then lose and then declare the loss a victory. The same people who protested gay marriage are currently Cowgirling Milo's dick. Conservatives stop trying after they lose. Liberals don't. In other words conservatives are always within the liberal frame. They dance to liberal music and play by liberal rules, just not as well.

Again I would argue that Christian conservatives that invaded the Republican party have hijacked conservatism to mean keeping the status quo, specifically on various social issues. The Republican party preserves the status quo, conservatives do not. The status quo is often wrong (for example, our current welfare state is wrong to me so arguing to change it would counter your narrative). Conservatives don't stop trying after they lose, they simply try to apply the rules and logic to everything whereas liberals are most certainly not limited by logic. You see that as losing, I see that as being true to ones self. There are a lot that are definitely dancing to the liberal tune right now, which is why the response to any appeal to emotion on social issues should be responded to just like a shit test as that's what it is. You don't take children seriously (look at TV right now, it's fucking insane that people are being led around by 16 year olds that were doing the Tide Pod Challenge last month), you don't take anyone making emotional appeals on such issues serious either.

So what does any of this have to do with Red Pill? A lot actually. The mental illness known as conservatism isn't just a national phenomena. It manifests itself at all levels: individual, family, and organizational. So for example a conservative individual might be an unimaginative dresser. He’ll prohibit his wife from dancing and his teenagers from watching porn instead of creating a compelling counternarative. His company will stupidly and slowly copy it's competition. The Red Pill is a rejection of the system not it's celebration. That's why the Red Pill is Anti Conservative.

I would say the Red Pill is a reaction to the system not being logical, it's not anti conservative. TRP wouldn't exist if liberal insanity on social issues hadn't been injected into our society. People doing what you say - telling others how they can't live - is authoritarianism, not conservatism. This is no different than your slavery and czar example further up. Telling others how to live as if you are in control of their lives is about as anti-conservative as you can get.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On your last point: As the economy automates, there is going to be a huge excess of manual labour in the market. It makes no sense to continually increase birth rates or immigration rates just to replace a population that is being largely served and serviced by mechanized labour and robots/AI. The need for constant expansion is a fallacy, an economy can ebb and flow in near equilibrium, without a constant need for new people to replace 'old buggy whip makers'.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 2 points3 points  (4 children)

This is an unstructured rant

I quote myself.

Hmm... Opens by identifying natural opposition to TRP. It then suggested a less obvious opposition. It gives examples of how either can be opposition. He then points out why the latter opposition is a problem for others, after which he points out what they are a problem for us. It then revisits the first opposition (progs) and compares the relative danger of the two groups. Finally he prompts a solutions. Yeah, pretty well structured.

The rest of it is pretty pointless, as you are just attacking rhetoric instead of countering the point. So here is your chance.

Unlike liberals, conservatives don't have a vision for the future.

What is their vision for the future?

[–]theadj123 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Just because you can see a pattern in the weeds doesn't mean it has structure. He bobs and weaves between making emotional arguments and trying to be logical and reference formal dialogue. He has no solution, merely 'throwing conservatives off the train'.

What is their vision for the future?

While I may be straying into No True Scotsman territory, a 'true' conservative vision would be one where people are treated exclusively on their (de)merits without exception. Anyone is free to make their own choices about their lives with as little interference from their government as possible. A person should be taxed fairly and on that which they consume. A person is free to exercise their religion as-is without interference from others, including the government.

Obviously that is a 'pure' vision, it is watered down by human realities. I would say that conservatives in government lacked a true leader for the past 10 years, and it took Donald Trump literally shitting on all of them to get them in some semblance of order. He has a vision that I think is the closest to pure conservatism that we've had for a very long time. It is not by any means perfect or 100% agreeable to anyone but himself, but that's the nature of a Republic and humans in general. Attempting to argue conservatives have no vision right now is rather myopic, try reading some of what the administration is putting out and you'll get a pretty clear picture of what the vision is.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's a Libertarian. Conservatism is a reaction to counter-culture movements, thus the name. The latest version of American Conservatism is a direct reaction to 1960s counter-culture, both the branded LBJ Great Society and the unbranded dirty feel good hippies. It saw its political height during the Reagan years.

I do not consider the "Neocon" bullshit (I fucking hate that name for it) as conservatism. In fact, it was quite the opposite.

He has no solution, merely 'throwing conservatives off the train'.

Train? What train?

[–]Xevalous 5 points6 points  (5 children)

How about you put a quarter in your asshole cuz you just played yourself?

All that talk just to finish your statement like a middle school kid. Shameful.

[–]balloutrageous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it makes you feel anybetter, faggylubeoil said these things to me:

I'm incredibly happy because rational debate never changes anyone's mind emotion does.

He's all emotion, no brain, and acts like he wants a rational argument when in reality he just wants to call you a cuck. Very poor debate skills.

I grew The Donald into one of the largest and most active Right wing communities on the internet, by being contentous and not compromising with the other side litteraly the opposite of what your fagsplaining.

He takes responsibility for what The Donald's become like it's a good thing and he's proud of it, yet bashes conservatives?

The guy can't stop his mental gymnastics

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Read my post. Your conservative disapproval only encourages further masterbation.

[–]asapkokeman 5 points6 points  (7 children)

"At this point a bunch of stoic, logical alfalfas are flipping their shit because I made some bad bad inappropriate jokes" - Nobody is flipping their shit because of your stupid jokes. Nobody gives a shit about you. You continue on with a straw man argument because you assume anyone is actually mad at your jokes, and say that your conservative audience is no better than liberals because they "got mad at you". LOL. Where's your proof that anyone was actually mad? You literally just assumed something that's most likely false and tried to make an argument out of thin air.

"So why are conservatives such losers" - You've never established that they are losers. You've only used one straw man argument.

"Why have conservatives lost on almost every social issue" - There are two things wrong with this statement. 1. You obviously don't understand how the government works. Major social issues are usually resolved by supreme court, not the democratic vs republican parties. To blame conservatives for "losing" certain issues like DOMA or Roe v. Wade is completely unfair because at the end of the day, they literally did all in their power (bringing the issue to supreme court) to protect their belief. Supreme court just had different views. 2. Conservatives have won numerous social issues. The death penalty still has no federal ban. You still don't have to bake a cake for an LGBTQ wedding. You're not forced to carpool to work 2/5 days to avoid pollution. I can go on and on.

"Their most profound ideas are tax cuts and wars" - Because getting the country back on track isn't as complicated as dimwits like you think it is? If you'd read Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, or any book on economics, you'd know that if we cut taxes and decreased government spending, our economy would do better. Newsflash: America has been better than most countries at this, and look at how good our economy is compared to the rest of the world. It's not rocket science. We don't need "new ideas". We need to implement ideas that work.

"Unlike liberals, conservatives don't have a vision for the future" - LOL. This has to be my last comment on this, because i'll be here hours. This couldn't be further from the truth. Conservatives have such vision for the future, that they elected the candidate with the most radical views for change that we've seen in modern political history. A candidate that literally made millions of liberals cry on election night. If conservatives wanted the "same ol' same ol" like you suggest, either jeb bush or Hillary clinton would be president right now. Conservatives aren't sitting back and doing nothing, rather they came out in record numbers to vote for trump.

I'm not a conservative or a liberal, but you simply don't know your stuff. If you're going to post about politics, be informed or gtfo.

[–]barkusmuhl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Conservative values have largely disappeared in favour of our current experiment in nihilism and hedonism. At this point readopting such values that once served as guiding principles to create more fulfilling lives is no longer maintaining the status quo, it IS change. Conservatism is the new counterculture.

[–]Infernir 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Politics is garbage and should be ignored until we can replace the system with something good for everyone. Neither side has ever given a shit about me or my family. Idk why everyone acts like its such a big deal I don't vote or ever give a shit about politics. I have my voice, I'll do what I can to make the world a better place MYSELF If I want the world to be a utopia I'll do everything I can myself and with those will follow me, relying on people who don't give a shit about you or me to fix my problems? Yeah right fuck off, no one has ever helped me before and no one will ever help me no matter who I support or vote for, its all a waste of time pointless brainwashing from society.

Ignore all of politics and focus on yourself. You are your own politics, the man you want to be vs the man you don't want to be. The USA is flawed when it naturally rejects the best leaders for the role of Presidency and turns everyone who would even be slightly good away from ever wanting the job.

I am of course talking about those of us who see the truth of life and the reality of everything, the way things actually are. The world works by money, fame, power. How many people can you make like you? It doesn't matter how you do it, as long as you do it and you're old enough you can run for president and win.

We know the rules of the game well, better than anyone else. We can use the rules people naturally follow religiously against them to gain control if we wanted.

[–]daemon86 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Because blaming others for everything, like "foreigners and refugees are so bad", doesn't show someone is strong. It shows they are weak and that's why it's a loser mentality.

[–]Son0fSun 5 points6 points  (2 children)

One of the best analysis and commentaries I’ve read in many years.

OP is absolutely right. You don’t win against soyboys, social justice zealots and radical feminists or anyone else for that matter by arguing with them. You win by giving them ideas then telling them they were their own.

Case in point: hijabs and Islamic female clothing wear rules. Feminists call them ‘liberating,’ when they are simply putting women where the Islamic world wants them.

[–]bazingabrickfists 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And that is exactly why conservatism is a train worth riding, to counter the radical left degeneracy. Once the balance of power is corrected then we can sit back a bit.

[–]zyqkvx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You win by giving them ideas then telling them they were their own.

..then show them an enemy who disagrees so they brainwash themselves as they debate.

[–]RedPill_Swinger 3 points4 points  (9 children)

I don't agree with this, when I was in my mid 20's I used to oppose conservatives since I was railing hundreds of chicks instead of getting married, but I have been opposing liberals too.

I'm from Europe so maybe the situation here is slightly different but a certain degree of inaccuracy might be tolerated.

The difference between the two is that conservatives want to turn into a slave on a minimum wage, liberals want to turn you into a slave to female imperative and if you're lucky you'll score a 5 with a real vagina.

I've always been a lone wolf, the only way of breaking free of the role society casts upon you is to be socially disobeying.

Now this being said, Milo's been doing a great job trying to dismantle politically correctness there are people in my country with MBA's whose applications get discarded just to hire some extracommunitarian without a valid degree who can't even speak the language for the sake of "diversity", imo that's the main problem to tackle.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

I don't know how good your English instructions is but this post is against both liberals and conservatives and takes a radical perspective. Furthermore if your institution isn't admitting students on merit why would you apply?

[–]RedPill_Swinger 3 points4 points  (2 children)

And indeed I oppose them both, but right now I think dismantling the politically correct narrative is of paramount importance, this doesn't mean that we should follow conservatism but it may be a good trick up our sleeve. Let's be honest TRPer's despite being more educated than the average (or at least this is my perception) tend to speak their minds and women tend to appreciate it. So getting rid of PC is a good thing for one could be fired for cracking the wrong joke in the work place by a BP manager.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

IMO the climax of the politically correct narrative has already died, it was apparent when Trump was elected that the narrative as a movement has lost steam. However this may be more of American thing, as I know Europe is generally even more left-leaning so perhaps it's still happening over there. Granted I live in a "conservative" area, most people I meet are "tired" of PC.

[–]RedPill_Swinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hopefully we'll reach that point too.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's great post.

People tend to attach themselves to something, it could be political parties, religion or atheism. I understand you are trying to remove their ego induced imaginary identities but these identities give people sense of fake power.

And standing alone is scary.

What you want to give them?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unbridled fulfilment of will to power

[–]TheGoldenPepe 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Milo isn't who you think he is. I'd suggest watching Squatting Slav.

[–]RedPill_Swinger 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Thanks for the tip, I found a YouTube channel are you talking about that one?

[–]TheGoldenPepe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes

[–]cdhunt6282 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Congrats OP, you wrote the only TRP post I've bothered reading in well over a year. Conservatives are just liberals on a 10 year time delay. The best defense is a good offense, and conservatives/reactionaries aren't capable of it. They can only react to their opponents, never attacking back, never defending themselves.

[–]blackedoutfast 4 points5 points  (0 children)

great post. LOL at how everyone is getting triggered

[–]Tie5o11 7 points8 points  (24 children)

If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

At this point a bunch of Stoic logical Alfalfas are flipping their shit because I made some bad bad inappropriate jokes. Those same people swear that liberals and political correctness are the devil. But here they are, mad at me for breaking a speech code that liberals spent decades putting into practice. Think about that for a second. They hate liberals but live their lives by liberal rules. Fucking retarded right? Yea super retarded. That's conservatives.

This point does not add up. It was Republicans who ended slavery, and Republicans who ushered the civil rights movement. Equal rights under the law is an inherently Conservative principal- as opposed to the liberal principal of tweaking rules to benefit whatever perceived group is the 'victim' at the time.

This notion that Conservatives today would be sitting around owning slaves if it were not for 'liberal rules', is simply not one that is going to be accepted by any rational thinking person who visits this sub.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 14 points15 points  (23 children)

There was a political realignment in the 1960-1970s when the New Deal Coalition broke down and all the Klansmen went from voting democrat to voting republican. The Southern Confederacy would definitely prefer the modern republican party to the democrate one.

This party of Lincoln nonsense doesn't fool African Americans or anyone else for that matter.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (17 children)

It actually occurred earlier, in the 1920s and 30s. Republicans were becoming the party of "Big Business" and alienating urban workers, while the Democrats created the New Deal Coalition to scoop up those voters.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 0 points1 point  (16 children)

alienating urban workers

Yes, but most of them are natural enemies any way.

Big Business

The vast majority of big business leaders are hard-core elitist and overtly promote the left. They want a big government funding a big, dumb population that have a never ending teet to suck money therefrom. For ever Koch, I'll find you a half-dozen Zuckerbergs.

[–]1by1is3 1 point2 points  (13 children)

The vast majority of big business leaders are hard-core elitist and overtly promote the left.

This a lie that the serfs believe, most people with net worth in several millions, vehemently support right wing governments, because those governments give them tax cuts. They might pretend (or even be) socially liberal but nobody at that level of wealth is voting for leftists, I assure you, unless they directly and demonstrably profit from it.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 1 point2 points  (12 children)

That's hardly the elite. Not even close.

[–]1by1is3 1 point2 points  (11 children)

That's top 1%, and even in polls the top 1% identify more with the right wing than the left wing when compared to the general population. Billionaires are not going to be voting for Bernie no matter what.

Most people vote for their own interests and what matters to them the most, and the wealthy are no different. It's just happenstance that the wealthy vote for right wing because they are more concerned about paying millions of dollars in taxes, while the serfs vote for the right wing to stop immigrants from competing with them and taking 'their jobs', or to hold on to some form of group identity because that's what they value more than money.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Well, I said elite, but ok. 1%. The San Francisco Bay Area where if you can afford to buy a middle class house in a decent neighborhood, you are squarely in the 1%. The vast majority of them vote for the left.

[–]1by1is3 0 points1 point  (9 children)

You mean they are paying cash for the house or they are mortgaging? We are talking net worth here. People with several millions of dollars in net worth that are ''the elite''. This is not my definition, this is how pretty much everyone defines the ''elite''. Unless you believe in conspiracy cabals of illuminati and jewish bankers and some lame shit like that.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 0 points1 point  (8 children)

There is a huge difference between having a couple million bucks and billions. Huge. A couple million wouldn't even sustain a middle class lifestyle in a decent area in the Bay Area without income. There is a difference between the family that has a couple BMWs and a 2000sqft house and the guy that has a collection of Italian super cars at his 20,000sqft estate.

[–]chaseemall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, if I wanted to keep the coloreds in check, I'd destroy their families and create a welfare state so all they gotta do is twerk on insta and buy my drank. Don't assume the Democrats have changed. They just got creative.

[–]Tie5o11 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Right, so .01% of the population re-aligned, and that means that all modern Conservatives would be sipping whiskey watching slaves tend to the fields.

GLO- I sincerely enjoy your writing, I am a fan. But this was a ridiculous insinuation. Its left wing identity politics in a different wrapper...

[–]disposable_pants 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What the hell does this post have to do with "Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men"? Not a fucking lot, that's for sure. Get this political shit -- which isn't even thoughtful political shit -- off the sub.

AltRight I'll tell you bro. If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

So your argument is that conservatives didn't fight hard enough to support slavery and genocide? And you think this is going to convince people to support a related political movement? That's just disconnected from reality in all sorts of ways.

Conservatives don't lose because of any inherent flaw in their mentality. They lose because they pick stupid-ass hills to die on, like issues that result in massive amounts of human suffering. Those issues are easy to attack and get tougher to defend as time goes on and the discussion about them comes to the forefront. Want to win? Don't let your side waste valuable political capital supporting losing causes like slavery, genocide, or (today) the drug war.

[–]Kafkaevsky 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are absolutely correct. I may agree with conservatives but I can just see why they loose. They have never known how to get the upper hand when dealing with liberals.

[–]iwasbornred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fiscal conservatism is a good thing. It means less taxes on productive members of society.

Social conservatism just makes you really easy to make fun of.

[–]Reaper5555 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow I think my eyes started bleeding this post was so aweful. After I finally finished I concluded that the writer finally cried himself to sleep. This is a shitpost that even under liberal standards wouldn't even pass. Get off my feed

[–]Gargantuar01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is why the alt-right is the best candidate to rival the progressives, unlike conservatives which want to preserve and slow down the leftist hell train, the alt-right offers an alternative (white ethnostate, total free-speech etc.). The alt-right also acknowledged uncomfortable truths that progressives and conservatives didn't (race realism, difference between woman and men ect.). That is why we have only 2 possible outcomes for western countries: multicultural leftist countries or white ethnostates. You choose which one you want the most.

[–]1Captain_Save_A_Hoe_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem with the US republican party is that they regress towards the "left" every decade or so. This election cycle they said gays like Milo are their base voters. Soon it will be pedos. Thats all cool and nice but it demoralizes the country and steals the symbolic significance of the presidency.

Here's a picture of trump waving the LGBT flag

[–]colovick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is one of the best posts I've read by you. Thank you for this incredible spin piece. I might have to catch up on a few years worth of this is what your content has turned into

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, that purplepilldebate post is gold! You need to post it here. It's hardly trolling, in fact.

[–]mrjackoldman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The enemy of my enemy is a friend, till the common enemy is destroyed. Things change after that.

Enough said.

[–]Fearofthedark88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are we talking about economic outcomes based off political ideology, or the fact that politicians lie? The latter goes without saying.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I'm done being cucked by liberals I'd like a new cucker dor the next 4 years

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