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Red Pill TheoryDon't Get Cucked By Conservatives (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOilx2

Anyone who's spent any time here knows how much we enjoy to blaming Progressives, Feminists, SJWs, etc, for all that is wrong with the world. Definitely an enjoyable pastime. However today we're taking the Hate Train in the opposite direction and discussing the people who didled themselves awkwardly while the West took veiny multicultural dick to the face, vagina and anus. That's right, today we're talking bout conservatives, why they always lose and how not to be them.

Now at this point you and the 20-30k people who usually read my diatribes are wondering: GaylubeOil why you shiting on Conservatives? I mean they basically agree with you most of the time? So what gives? AltRight I'll tell you bro. If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

At this point a bunch of Stoic logical Alfalfas are flipping their shit because I made some bad bad inappropriate jokes. Those same people swear that liberals and political correctness are the devil. But here they are, mad at me for breaking a speech code that liberals spent decades putting into practice. Think about that for a second. They hate liberals but live their lives by liberal rules. Fucking retarded right? Yea super retarded. That's conservatives.

So why are conservatives such losers? Why did conservatives lose on basically every social issue for the past 100 years? Because conservatives are dimwitted and unimaginative. Their most profound ideas are tax cuts and wars. Liberals have the creativity to say: 7 year old Transgenders? Sounds good let's make that happen. Conservatives on the other hand can't even trick a white bitch into having a few more babies. But what about abortion?

Ok let's talking about that. Decreasing the need for immigration is predicated on making women want to have more babies. It's not about forcing them into having babies. When you force people to do something they usually want to do the opposite. Liberals know this and call it the Hegelian Dialectic. Conservatives don't. Which is why some of them frolic in white robes and burn crosses. The only thing that the KKK has ever accomplished is the promotion of diversity. Maybe if Billy Bob Banjo possessed introspection and foresight he'd realize that his method isn't working and never worked. Perhaps then he could redirect his efforts towards funding segregation propaganda like the Black Panther film.

Unlike liberals, conservatives don't have a vision for the future. Their game plan is to preserve the status quo whatever it may be, then lose and then declare the loss a victory. The same people who protested gay marriage are currently Cowgirling Milo's dick. Conservatives stop trying after they lose. Liberals don't. In other words conservatives are always within the liberal frame. They dance to liberal music and play by liberal rules, just not as well.

So what does any of this have to do with Red Pill? A lot actually. The mental illness known as conservatism isn't just a national phenomena. It manifests itself at all levels: individual, family, and organizational. So for example a conservative individual might be an unimaginative dresser. He’ll prohibit his wife from dancing and his teenagers from watching porn instead of creating a compelling counternarative. His company will stupidly and slowly copy it's competition. The Red Pill is a rejection of the system not it's celebration. That's why the Red Pill is Anti Conservative.

Think of the progressive agenda as a masterbating homeless man on the subway. The liberals are the people applauding. The conservatives are the ones yelling angrily. Those pretending not to notice, offer tacit consent. All groups make the hobo's masterbation more enjoyable. The radical solution aka the Red Pill solution, is to spray the subway car with a fire extinguisher and steal the hobo’s attention.

A Red Pill solution is any solution that wrestles control of the narrative. That means shit testing your girlfriend’s shit test. It means scaring your masterbating 14 year old son into NoFap by showing him the weirdos and creeps at the porn store. It means selling Feminists femininity disguised as radical feminism, rather than stupidly arguing. Most importantly, it means possessing courage and innovation, something that conservatives inherently lack.

As the Red Pill train gains steam, more and more conservatives are gonna try to climb aboard. Kick them off. They're losers, they don't have a plan and historically speaking they always lose. If conservativism worked the Red Pill wouldn't be necessary and you wouldn't need GaylubeOil or his hobo masterbation metaphors. Don't get cucked by conservatives.


If you're ready to put in work to make a real change this year, I offer a Red Pill Fitness Coaching Service. Shoot me a PM.


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[–]redpillthrowaway1214164 points165 points  (39 children) | Copy Link

Identity politics in general are incredibly cancerous. Logic and reason should be above all else.

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

In today's political climate, identity politics are the most logical thing you can do. Someone using logic today would realize that nobody else is using logic, so they'd stop being a fedora sperg, and they'd do what works. The logical thing today is to get really really really good at identity politics, not to not do identity politics.

[–]BornShook11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Why? Thats a huge contridiction. If I don't like identity politics, I should get good at identity politics to fight off identity politics? Why even give a fuck at that point? I dont like the game, I'm just not gonna play.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You can't opt out of power or politics. You can chooose not to play, in which you just get rolled by those who do. But you can't opt out of the system. All you can do is either try to win, meaning adapt to the world of identity politics, or get comfortable with losing, as you seem to be.

[–]BornShook1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'll dabble in it if I have to but my main route of thinking will always be logic. And its apparent that you yourself are using logic right now as well. Logic is still very powerful. Do not overthink this.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I actually don't think that you're using logic. As ironic as this may sound, I think you're being tribalistic. Even though it's a bit paradoxical to have a tribe of individualists, that's the way you're using individualism. You're treating individualists as your team and you're talking about which sacrifices you might make such that people can continue to be on that team. You haven't made any compelling arguments (or any arguments at all, for that matter) for why individualism is worth preserving, which is the way people think of their tribe. No Roman ever needed to argue for why Romans should defend the Roman Empire.

I'm the one actually being logical. I'm discussing which ends are worth fighting for, what works, and which adaptations will be successful. There are certain tribes that I'm similarly unwilling to walk away from, but I choose good tribes and I do it consciously so that I can do it smartly. You kind of accidentally fell in to a tribe that you're willing to fall on your sword for, except it's a shitty tribe because it inherently refuses to work together. The individualist tribe you've fallen into is like of Romans skipped the training and lining up in formations part of being a legionnaire and skipped right to falling on their swords to commit suicide to avoid the shame of losing a battle. It's still tribalistic, it's just stupid tribalism.

[–]BornShook2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I don't know everything, otherwise I would be a god. I have to use whatever information I believe benefits me the most. I cannot be a 100% logic machine because I would be sacrificing my entire identity for the sake of logic. But who fucking cares.

You're wasting your time thinking about this. I used to spend all my time thinking about this shit and formulating arguements. It's just not going to work. I also cannot even attempt to acknoledge any of the shit youre saying. The entire book you just wrote is a string of strawmans, and you ended it with "But who fucking cares".

Eat a snickers bro, you overanalyze everything when youre hungry

[–]redpillthrowaway121419 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes if you're a politician but for a regular citizen without money or power, political views really don't matter. In my opinion, time is better spent on other things.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You didn't just refute identity politics though, if anything, you argued against all politics.

[–]1Captain_Save_A_Hoe_7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Modern capitalism is just as subversive as Marxism. The materialistic view of life on which both systems are based is identical. As long as we only talk about economic classes, profit, salaries, and production, and as long as we believe that real human progress is determined by a particular system of distribution of wealth and goods, then we are not even close to what is essential.

[–]BornShook1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice opinion. Stop presenting it as fact. You sound like an idiot.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. We can be the change we want to see in the world. Logic and reason is going to cut through the bullshit eventually and people will see it and understand. Look at Ben Shapiro, for example, he is still rising and he's built his image on logic and reason in the face of retarded identity politics. We don't need to sink to the level of identitarians, we just need to speak the truth boldly, never cower in fear of fucking outrage activist mobs and people will get on board.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. We can be the change we want to see in the world.

The change I want to see in this world is not to be steamrolled by people with better strategy than me.

Logic and reason is going to cut through the bullshit eventually and people will see it and understand.

Your position isn't logical. Your position is not adapting to the world as it is and that's not logical.

Look at Ben Shapiro, for example, he is still rising and he's built his image on logic and reason in the face of retarded identity politics.

Ben Shapiro is a Zionist; that's identity politics. Individualism is just for you and he would never want it for Israel.

We don't need to sink to the level of identitarians, we just need to speak the truth boldly, never cower in fear of fucking outrage activist mobs and people will get on board.

The fact that you're comfortable losing does not put you on a higher level than people who actually try to win.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

You have your own strategy? Sounds like you want to latch on to whatever works, i.e you lack your own beliefs and individual identity.

Shapiro believes in personal responsibility and changing the world via individual empowerment rather than collectivism which is what TRP is all about.

I'm not comfortable losing but i'm not going to 'adapt' to faggy identity politics. That would be being within someone else's frame, wouldn't it?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

You have your own strategy? Sounds like you want to latch on to whatever works, i.e you lack your own beliefs and individual identity.

No, you have it backwards. If you're willing to do something that doesn't work, then don't care about your beliefs or identity and if you don't care about your identity then you might as well not have one.

Shapiro believes in personal responsibility and changing the world via individual empowerment rather than collectivism which is what TRP is all about.

No, TRP is about good results, not about dying on the cross of some principles that someone told you to have.

I'm not comfortable losing but i'm not going to 'adapt' to faggy identity politics. That would be being within someone else's frame, wouldn't it?

Being on the losing side keeps you in whatever frame the winners tell you to be in. Adapting your approach gives you a realm of autonomy. Losing gives you nothing.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

We don't know that it doesn't work. What is your answer to the identity politics of the left? White identity politics?

What results are you looking for, exactly? I believe TRP to be about living truthfully and carrying responsibility, I just think that's how a man should act in the world, and it will have a positive impact on everything when individuals live this way, with stern principles.

Being on the losing side keeps you in whatever frame the winners tell you to be in. Adapting your approach gives you a realm of autonomy. Losing gives you nothing.

Isn't that playing by someone else's rules?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

What is your answer to the identity politics of the left? White identity politics?

Yes.

An individualist group won't beat collectivists. Just won't, sorry. A basketball team that plays as a team will always beat one that passes the ball to whomever is running in the general right direction regardless of what jersey that person happens to be.

What results are you looking for, exactly?

You know everything that's made society go to shit since liberals started taking over? I'd like to reverse all of that and go back to a time when society didn't suck.

I believe TRP to be about living truthfully and carrying responsibility, I just think that's how a man should act in the world, and

Okay, I believe this too. However, I don't think that a man is living more responsibly or more honestly by letting himself get his ass kicked in every cultural and political battle. I think that we have a responsibility to beat the left because the left is fundamentally evil.

it will have a positive impact on everything when individuals live this way, with stern principles.

You have it SO backwards, dude. If you're going to deliberately lose and you're willing to fight your own side when your own side does what it takes to win, then you might as well be fighting for the left. In a way, you kind of are fighting for the left. There is absolutely nothing principled about this stance you're taking. You keep asserting that it's principled, honest, and right, as if it's obvious, but there's no reason why it should be obvious. All it is, is losing.

Isn't that playing by someone else's rules?

This isn't some fantasy world where you're just unaffected by what the other side does. What if Julius Caesar just said: "Screw it, this is the fastest way to cross Gaul. They might be standing there, out numbering us, and so on... but I'm a man's man so we're just gonna walk through their army as if it's not even there!!"

He would have been slaughtered. Right now, Caesar is remembered as an alpha because he didn't do that. He recognized that there was something it took to win and he did that thing. He may not have had full autonomy to march into a Hastati army as if it wasn't even there, but he did get to do certain things on his own terms and as he won more battle, "certain things" became "whatever he wanted." Had he just ignored the notion that there is something it would take to win though, he would have marched like an alpha right into a Gallic prison, where he would never have freedom again and would have been humiliated right up until his death.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Individuals will always cut through in an ocean of collectivist drones. It's why Jordan Peterson is on the rise. He stands up, as an individual, to confront a huge group of ideologically possessed academics and brainwashed students, and he is making incredible strides forward in creating more independent, critical thinking and responsible men. You're kind of suggesting we try Nazism or something similar, and hey, I won't judge you for that, but I believe that kind of tribal thinking to be sub-optimal and destructive.

You know everything that's made society go to shit since liberals started taking over? I'd like to reverse all of that and go back to a time when society didn't suck.

Well, yeah. But, we can choose how we do this, and returning to white identity politics won't take us to a society that doesn't suck.

I think that we have a responsibility to beat the left because the left is fundamentally evil.

Yes and no. Some leaders and people in charge of the left are clearly malevolent and need to be stopped, but a lot of them are just brainwashed adult infants and can be shown another way. We can lead by example. I also think you're overestimating the strength of the left. They have no principles, no discipline, barely any cohesion aside from mass liking tweets and organised boycott campaigns. If we ever did have to band together as a group to destroy them, it wouldn't have to be based on our identity as white people. The modern individualist movement is still in it's infancy, there will be people that want to escape the left and we will be their refuge. Numbers of responsible adults/individuals will only grow as people realise the decadence of liberalism gets them nowhere.

You have it SO backwards, dude. If you're going to deliberately lose and you're willing to fight your own side when your own side does what it takes to win, then you might as well be fighting for the left. In a way, you kind of are fighting for the left. There is absolutely nothing principled about this stance you're taking. You keep asserting that it's principled, honest, and right, as if it's obvious, but there's no reason why it should be obvious. All it is, is losing.

We don't know that we'll lose. In fact, I'm almost positive we'll lose if we try white identity politics. Nazis didn't win, the KKK never achieved anything i'm pretty sure. White identity politics is symbolic of the desire to cause as much destruction as possible in the shortest amount of time purely to spite your enemies imo. It also validates the sick identity politics of the other side, too. Why would we want to do that? There's no better world on the other side of nazism.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Individuals will always cut through in an ocean of collectivist drones.

Why do you think this? Individualists have literally never won anything ever. There has literally never been one single cultural or political battle that was won by individualists. Ever. You seem to be thinking of hardworking people who try to do their best. Sure. They win, but there's nothing inherently individualistic about that.

Well, yeah. But, we can choose how we do this, and returning to white identity politics won't take us to a society that doesn't suck.

Of course it will... when whites played identity politics, society didn't suck.

The modern individualist movement is still in it's infancy

No, it isn't individualism is ancient and it's always been given to people who are not in power. Always. It's not some new cool ideology, nor is it even a particularly good one. If your group values the people in it then it's pretty good to have a group. It's just that if you're one of the people who the left doesn't care for, then they tell you to be groupless rather than to form a group with the others that they don't care for, because they're not afraid of a bunch of individuals.

Some leaders and people in charge of the left are clearly malevolent and need to be stopped, but a lot of them are just brainwashed adult infants and can be shown another way. We can lead by example. I also think you're overestimating the strength of the left. They have no principles, no discipline, barely any cohesion aside from mass liking tweets and organised boycott campaigns. If we ever did have to band together as a group to destroy them, it wouldn't have to be based on our identity as white people.

Why not? Because some leftist told you that white is evil?

Numbers of responsible adults/individuals will only grow as people realise the decadence of liberalism gets them nowhere.

This is just plain wrong. It does get them somewhere. Hispanics, blacks, and Jews are better off than they've ever been in this country because they collectivize. It gets you nowhere because you have no collective.

Nazis didn't win, the KKK never achieved anything i'm pretty sure.

Such a stupid argument. The Allies were more racist than the Nazis; in fact, they took a poll in 1944 and 90% of whites said they would rather lose the war than give equal rights to blacks. Also, the KKK only lost to more identity politics. Collectives have lost to other collectives, but no collective has ever at any point in the history of mankind, any where in the world, even once, lost to individualists.

White identity politics is symbolic of the desire to cause as much destruction as possible in the shortest amount of time purely to spite your enemies imo.

Let me guess, your boy Ben Shapiro told you this upon hearing that a white collective wouldn't want to fight for Ben Shapiro's Israeli collective?

[–]cdhunt62824 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Since when is ignoring evidence part of reason and logic?

[–]chasemyers6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What do identity politics have to do with logic and reason?

Identity politics are a Marxist tool used to gain frame control.

[–]redpillthrowaway1214-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not sure what you're getting at. Can you clarify?

[–]Arnoux0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It is. From OP:

conservatives are dimwitted and unimaginative. Their most profound ideas are tax cuts and wars.

I don't even understand what he is talking about. He is definitely not referring to conservatives but probably to a party in a country (most likely Republican in USA? )

Conservatives in my country is nothing like this. They never considered war publicly and they show no intention of ever going to a war. Also sadly they are not cutting taxes too much.

[–]everyone_wins0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lol no one cares about logic and reason and they certainly don't respond to it. It's the assumption that people will respond to logic and reason that got conservatives cucked in the first place. The left, for all their naivete, understands this completely.

[–]BornShook0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

How did conservatives get cucked ?

[–]everyone_wins1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They got cucked because they appealed to logic and reason instead of emotion.

[–]BornShook-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I did'nt ask why, I asked how. But your reasoning is stupid.

[–]Patzer14700 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

and there goes the based conservative... once again playing within the framework of the liberal status quo

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here is the logic buddy. Race is a genetic component. Multiculturalism has never worked. They need gov laws to enforce it and people still cluster by race. America was founded by white people for white people. Whites will be a minority in 2050. We need an ethnostate.

[–]IwannaFocus323 points324 points  (58 children) | Copy Link

Conservatives? Liberals? Left? Right? It doesn't matter who wins these days - both ends of the spectrum don't really give a damn about you, me or anyone else here that does not have a pocket full of our One True God; $$$$$$$.

Why is it that only the newer generations feel less inclined to vote in the first place (unless it has something to do with weed, games and other distractions)? Because deep down inside they know that voting is pointless. Society is fucked, and it fucks you even harder. The only ones still voting are the brainwashed old-generation cucks who ate up the propaganda they've been fed with for last 40-50 years - like a fat kid at all-you-can-eat-buffet, and the new political muscle that is Immigrants/WhateverTheFuckElse.

They are not your friends - be it liberals or conservatives. Majority of them are Machiavellian Psychopaths who decided to play the game in order to gain power. You think they sit in that Congress/Senate/Duma/Bundesrat/HouseOfWhatever and think about how to solve all the issues the society is facing? Nope. They create distractions, lies and deceit in order to desperately cling to this cyclical power-structure we call "Democracy".

Fuck politics. The only thing that matters is money, status and power. You want to truly improve and slay chicks by the 100s? Start making six or more figures....

P.S No that doesn't mean that you should neglect game, lifting and self improvement.

[–]cdhunt628285 points86 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I agree with your diagnosis, but not your prescription. You're saying the game is rigged, play on your phone while you wait for it to end. But if you wait for the game to end, you lose even if you choose not to play. The real solution is to flip the board. Fuck their game and fuck them. Destroy the old game and replace it with something we can all play, for our posterity. Civilization flourishes when men plant trees whose shade they know they'll never enjoy

[–]BlackCraneStoic12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Too many people are sleeping, sipping the Kool-aid to revolt against the system. You want to turn the tables you have to do it on your own term as an individual. The collective is complacent in mediocrity but lasting progress begins within the individual.

[–]LukesLikeIt19 points20 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

A lot of us are just waiting till enough people realise ops statement is true and start a revolt. We can’t win unless we unite otherwise we will just constantly bicker amongest ourselves like all you see on reddit these days. Anyone who talks as if Democrats and republicans are different are still brainwashed.

[–]BlackCraneStoic 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

On all fronts. Racism is a ploy to create doscord. The easiest way to keep people United under a failed system is to create a scapegoated common enemy from with. Black v White. Man V. Woman it doesn't matter. Caesar's divide and conquer strategy works to this day.

[–]LukesLikeIt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is smart because categorising information is how our brain functions. It will always be impossible for us to not distinguish these things about each other because of how our brain processes information. We have to understand and teach that there is nothing wrong with being different instead of what they’re feeding us now which is that we are all the same. They know this ideology sows discontent and I believe that’s the point.

[–]cdhunt62821 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The other guy who commented was correct in that "enough people" won't ever wake up, at least not without a jolt. If little Bobby is going to bed hungry and grandma can't get her insulin, mom and dad will follow anybody that offers change and has the ability to back it up

[–]lopsidedlucky1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There will be no revolt. There will only be snap chat, kik and tinder. Those who could revolt now have their circuses and bread. There will be no revolt.

That means you have to win at the game at hand. Not wait for the game to change.

[–]cdhunt62820 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not quite. You're correct that most people will not revolt if their needs are met, won't see the purpose in higher ideals if the consumerist society keeps them content with decadence. But a 4GW force gains power congruent to the failures of the state. So things need to get worse. Joe Six-pack and Sally Soccer-mom won't be happy with the way things are if little Jimmy is going to bed hungry every night or grandma can't get her insulin. It's why Hezbollah is so effective: 95% of their money goes towards building schools and helping their people. So the solution isn't to revolt now, especially considering that would be suicide. The solution is to cause as much strain on the government as possible; the Cloward-Piven strategy is an example of this, and then using the weakness of the state to your advantage

[–]An_All-Beef_Engineer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

A lot of us are just waiting till enough people realise ops statement is true and start a revolt.

That will never happen. Don't hold your breath.

[–]LukesLikeIt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well for the state to win first thing they would have to do is disarm everyone.

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah we should give up identity politics, band together, and create our own political identity. Perfectly sound logic, the only kind you'll see on this subb.

[–]TheReformist9413 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

ECONOMICS. TRP IS THE AUSTRIAN SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS APPLIED TO SEXUAL STRATEGY.

[–]1Revo_Luzione64 points65 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Your cynical nihilism is not a red pill crisis.

Politics is simply the acquisition of power. It is war by other means. If you do not engage, you're simply surrendering. That's fine, but some of us have more gratitude for those who came before us.

My great grandfathers did not survive the Napoleonic wars, fight and beat the Axis powers, simply to get cucked by modern liberals. Fuck that. Have fun getting cucked because you refuse to stand up. At least you're getting your dick wet. Great. You slayed pussy for a bunch of decades, then died. Cool story bro. What have you left for future generations? What did you contribute while you were here? Nothing? Oh. Great. Congrats on the pussy you got.

News flash: At some point, some men are going to improve enough, have enough muscle mass and enough money, enough easy sex, that they will need other challenges. Developing political power, influencing the narrative, changing history--these are worthy challenges for a man who has ascended the tower.

When you graduate from being an advanced intermediate, or even a low level elite, when you become a true elite level man, when you are in touch with your highest purpose, you may see that changing culture, influencing history, crushing your enemies & hearing the lamentation of their women, is a very, very satisfying goal. More satisfying than continuing to fuck thots, which, at a certain level, becomes pretty much autopilot.

Thanks to u/gaylubeoil for vision and the balls to put it out there. The bit about disguising femininity as radical feminism is fucking genius, and a bit of rhetorical jujitsu that needs to be propagated and emulated.

[–]IwannaFocus18 points19 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Don't be a sperg that misses the point.....

Following today's politics is pointless because your one little vote won't change anything, it's not nihilism, it's realism.

It won't matter if one is surrendering or not, that is irrelevant in the big picture. What is relevant is that caring about politics will get you absolutely nowhere, until you acquire enough weight to create the changes. Before that happens - IF it does, you are nothing more than a low grade artist, stuck with his hands tied behind his back, with the impossible task of recreating a perfect copy of Michelangelo's ceiling.

If you believe that acquiring power can only be done through politics, then I have truly bad news for you buddy. This ain't the House of Cards, you obviously have seen way too much off. It is real world, and in real world, even politicians bow down before the Money God.

We live in the West, and thus we need to play by the rules of West. This ain't fucking Cuba or Russia, where you can just abuse your political power to gain whatever the fuck you wanna gain. This is a complex system, that at it's core can only be influenced if you posses enough cash in your pocket and a certain understanding of the system, people and current trends.

Graduate from your God Complex before you start talking about influencing history.

[–]1Revo_Luzione8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't be a sperg that misses the point.....

Projection. Lots of that in your reply post, and plenty of straw-men too--If this strawman, if that strawman.

There are plenty of red-pilled men who are moving the needle in the culture wars, shifting hearts & minds. That is shaping history.

And this can be done without a lot of money, with nothing more than a phone & laptop, an internet connection, something to say, and the balls to say it, and the social understanding of how to say it that reaches people.

[–]IwannaFocus-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fine, I'm sorry I hurt your snowflake feelings by apparently using "nihilism", "strawman argumentation" and finally - the most laughable one yet, "projection". I'm also sorry that didn't add "virtue signalling" to this fine concoction of bullshit. But then again, that seems to be your specialty....

Still, go forth comrade! The world is your oyster, because you do have all you need right? A phone, a laptop, internet connection, something to say and finally "balls". Be sure to list how you have a spoon, fork and a plate too - I'm sure those tools will be invaluable in your quest to influence BP world!

[–]ParanoidKasparov2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The internet is part of what is flipping the board to quote an above comment. The attempts to limit the access of average people to uncensored information is due to controlling elites realization of this. Mainstream news is an easy example of this, they have completely lost control of the narrative on major geopolitical issues both foreign and domestic. Syria and Hillary are the ones that comes easiest to my mind as examples.

Will it be completely successful? No most people are idiots and even the smart ones aren't competent in all areas.

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

your vote matters as much as the person's next to you in a democratic society. I guess your solution is to throw away democracy and to become a tyrant dictator? All the power to you, good luck. Sounds bad ass.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the kind of rhetoric that can get you killed in this era. But, we live, we die, and the world keeps turning.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I think that's a load of crap. Immigration, Net Neutrality, Healthcare, taxes,, Climate Change, etc... All important issues that Republicans and Democrats disagree on.

I abhor politicians, for most it's about the next step in their careers and a thirst for power. But there are still key differences that may affect our lives and for that it's still worth getting off our asses for 30 minutes a year to vote.

[–]lopsidedlucky1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No it's not. What is "worth it" is getting off your ass and getting involved. Volunteer for the candidates you endorse. Find others to do the same.

You'd be surprised how much of a difference an extra 10 people in a grassroots election dropping off lawn signs can make. Seriously, I've seen elections where the winner won by 200 votes. An extra radio ad alone could have switched that election.

Do more than vote.

edit: words

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes exactly. The best thing about a civilization like America (that was created by conservatives) is you are actually not even just allowed but ENCOURAGED to be the change you want to see. Anything other is mindless whining that things aren't going your way but you don't wanna do anything about it either. Completely childish.

[–]BlackCraneStoic-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Get off the couch for 30mins to vote for absolutely nothing in society to change for the better. Your getting hoofwinked by these modern day bandits and their lies. A good use of 30 minutes you'll never get back.

[–]killking723 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck politics. The only thing that matters is money, status and power.

And how do you get the most money, status, and power

🤔

[–]uwey4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Fuck politic? Really?

You know only the powerful wealthy statues can ever consider to be a politician, the literal door to politic arena only open to money, power, and status.

The best form of power demonstrations is always politic.

[–]lopsidedlucky2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You need to work with some large companies to understand how the world works. Vast majority of politicians are prostitutes. And they have a pimps. You offer them a deal for what you want and they make it happen. If you pay a whore for a blow job does she have power? Not really, she's just a whore giving you blow job. That's the essence of politics.

You also don't need any of your own money to run for office. You prostitute yourself to the right mix of self-interest groups in the right district and manage to grab 8,000 or less in votes, you're an elected official.

[–]uwey1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

vast majority of politicians are prostitutes

Your way to simplify a complex art is ingenious.

You also don't need any of your own money to run for office

Collateral? Play-time? Minimal buy-in is always a hidden requirement, people simply don't let you in unless you have collateral, and even best blowjob in the world needs a fat lip, slow neck, and no gag reflex. (Power/Status/Money=Networks)

Why do you think Arnold needs to marry a Kenndy?

[–]Pie_0212 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Fucking finally someone gets it. People are retarded to think any politician gives a shit about you. It's all a charade. Voting is a thing to make people think they are making a difference. You aren't. People want better education, health care, pay, better vacation and leave, etc. Are we getting it? No. We are being fed propoganda from the shit box in every living room in America. Stop watching TV and think for yourself.

[–]refunned2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I work for a senator and can tell you that’s not true. Propaganda absolutely exists but there are politicians on both sides who actually care.

Right now there are bills waiting to get voted on that would increase funding for education, create a Medicare for all system, increase the minimum wage and guarantee paid leave. The reason why these bills aren’t getting voted on is because the majority party won’t allow it. People need to understand how the political and legislative process works before jumping to lazy conclusions amounting to “the government is evil.”

[–]Kingoffistycuffs3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

And because those bills are literally cancer. What retard doesn’t know that raising the minimum wage and throwing more money at the education system literally makes things worse.

[–]refunned4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Even if that was true (it’s not) we could do a lot with the money we already spend. For example, we could have paid for free public college with this year’s military spending increase alone.

[–]Kingoffistycuffs-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And? We can cut all welfare by half, double the military budget put kids though free commie propaganda factory’s and continue to fuck the poor and middle class. Why do stupid reformists always look to college as the answer? Know how we got fucked up K-12? We let gov get it. Know how college is actively getting fucked? Gov loans that can’t have bankruptcy declined. How about we unfuck the school systems by dumping 70% of all federal school funds into charter and trade schools? If this isn’t your education bosses education plan tell him he’s an incompetent hack who couldn’t read himself an electricial print let alone fix a overburdened school system stacked with such incompetency that if it were money could pay off the national debt in 3 weeks.

[–]Pie_0211 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If politicians cared they wouldn't take massive "legal bribes" aka lobbying. Sure there are "good" people in the system, but the system is fundamentally fucked. The American people are dying for a good healthcare system, our education is whack, and salaries have not kept up with inflation. People need to break from the Republican and Democrat mindset. It's a scam.

[–]refunned-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You’re right, the system is fucked and political donations are essentially legal bribes. We need to reverse Citizens United and ideally create publicly funded campaigns. We also need universal healthcare, a better education system and higher wages. The thing is, all of those bills have been introduced...by Democrats. If Dems had control of Congress and the Presidency we would see them getting passed. There’s still a lot of work to be done, but both parties are far from the same.

[–]corystereo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We also need universal healthcare, a better education system and higher wages. The thing is, all of those bills have been introduced...by Democrats. If Dems had control of Congress and the Presidency we would see them getting passed.

Except, you know, when they did have Congress and the Presidency (2009 - 2011) and they did none of those things. Too busy giving kickbacks to Solyndra and other useless "green companies", I suppose.

Democrats had their chance and did nothing of value. That's why their asses have been getting kicked ever since. As they should be.

[–]zyqkvx-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If voters didn't show up and total participation fell to 20% in distain for the installed parties, new non-insider candidates would appear and jokey for presidency. My point isn't that a new candidate would come and save us. My point is there are people who hate both sides yet press hard for everyone to vote. By voting you aren't voting for either, you are simply voting to keep the two parties installed. With a US population of 350 mil confidence is high that one vote will never break a tie. If the voting system worked (it doesn't) low voter turnout would not be seen as a problem. It would be an indicator as fresh candidates will appear bringing change.

tl;dr Low voter participation could bring the change Obama was talking about.

[–]Pie_0210 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Both parties are retarded. When the cameras are off they are all buddy buddy. They just keep the rivalry alive because Americans love rivalry. From football to your choice of carbonated beverage. Americans love being on a side. Get your head out your ass. We are all people, let's create a society that's not being brainwashed and lied to every single minute.

Step back and see the bigger picture. Then step back again and see how this ties into everything else.

[–]zyqkvx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As much as I agree with your statement, by thinking about it exactly like that.. you are trying to implement a fatchance strategy.

[–]R3dSt0rmR1sen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope, politics are really important because the people that participate in it control thousands of nuclear weapons, if for no other reason.

And yah, I do think these people try to solve our issues. They probably just have more on their mind then fuck bitches get gainz get payed. Very sorry if this is upsetting to you. If you have any better ideas, feel free to descend from Olympus and show us the way.

Heard so much shit about this sub. First post I clicked. Sadly, seems justified.

[–]p3n1x0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is it that only the newer generations feel less inclined to vote in the first place

They vote everyday on facebook and reddit.
Hate to burst your bubble about the pointless generation, but if you were correct, then voter turnout would be getting smaller and smaller. It isn't.

You are right about playing a different game for a more fulfilled life.

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Conservatives? Liberals? Left? Right? It doesn't matter who wins these days - both ends of the spectrum don't really give a damn about you, me or anyone else here that does not have a pocket full of our One True God; $$$$$$$.

What are you, some sort of faggot? Of course the only thing people care about is their own will to power, that's the entire red pill dumb ass.

Because deep down inside they know that voting is pointless.

You what? Do you understand how elecotral colleges work? You vote for your electoral and he then votes for whoever. America is a Representative republic, actually the only thing that DOES matter is your vote, idiot.

Society is fucked, and it fucks you even harder.

So we should just sit around and wait for it to self destruct instead of engaging it politically to improve society. Kys.

The only ones still voting are the brainwashed old-generation cucks who ate up the propaganda they've been fed with for last 40-50 years - like a fat kid at all-you-can-eat-buffet, and the new political muscle that is Immigrants/WhateverTheFuckElse.

seriously, what? Young people do vote, not as much as older people, but can you find me a time in history in any civilization where young people were more or as active in political dialogue than their elders? Idiot.

Fuck politics. The only thing that matters is money, status and power. You want to truly improve and slay chicks by the 100s? Start making six or more figures....

Fuck politics but the only thing that matters is money? Do you understand how money is even made or what it represents? It's value based on economic demands. What is the main thing that effects economy? Policy. And policy = politics, you mong.

[–]3d_truth0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't see how making six figures helps. I have so much more money than the girls I date (in bkk). It does not make them horny, it just helps them see you as a provider.

[–]2mental_models3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"abundant sex" is supposed to be the goal

why is your goal "pleasing women"?

[–]3d_truth1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good point. But when a girl finds out you have lots of money, I don't think that makes her want to come to your place at midnight. You can't negotiate attraction after all.

[–]menial_optimist-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Money is only god in the capitalist arena. In the grand scheme, money is just an interim achievement on the road to the real objective: power.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

What's power with no money? that's like being a prince in an African village where your net worth is 15 cattle and 2 dogs.

[–]menial_optimist0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I know pop culture worships money, but it isn't the end. At the elite level it's simply the means to an end, which is power.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Outside of pop culture, people still worth money. Money will define if you work during your retirement or relax and take it easy. Money will give you the power to take control of your own life with multiple options.

I've been networking with self made folks and you need money to tap into any type of power.

[–]bazingabrickfists-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck politics, see where that lands you genius. In a perfect world you would get your space to jerk off to a picture of yourself but this world unfortunately needs you to be involved more than ever.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor61 points62 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Welp, this should kick off another Sperg-A-Thon.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 28 points29 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yee haw!

[–]3whatsthisgarg3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

this should kick off another Sperg-A-Thon.

This is definitely in the top 3 of your best, and I'm seeing 90% of commenters are a bunch of triggered cuckservatives foaming at the mouth with ad hominems and red herrings halfway up their butts, doing their darnedest to help you confirm your point.

Holy cow, 300+ Sperglenders in their Batman suit with a hole cut in the crotch so they can masturbate to how much you misunderstand conservatism lolololol

While they're doing that you can be annexing the Spergdeutschland.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The foundational premise of this community is that we are supposed to be noping the fuck out of the Matrix with some dank Red Pills. Clearly the left right is one such Marix that we need to nope the fuck out of so we can stomp around in our Hugo Boss boots.

As always thought the Batman spergathon doesn't want to nope the fuck out of anything and is here to repeat the propaganda they learned in their highschool US government class.

How Red Pill of them...not!

[–]Patriarchysaurus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Borat: "This pill is red not"

I hope we can all appreciate that we are noping the fuck out of the matrix while we're having this meeting from within it; like flies discussing how best to avoid spiders while stuck in the (world wide) web.

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

repeat the propaganda they learned in their highschool US government class

Bro the only person regurgitating propaganda is you. TRP parallels with conservatism more than liberalism, so you end up seeing more conservatives here than not and that gets you buttmad for some reason.

School teaches the exact opposite of conservative ideology, that's how we all know you're full of shit. Conservatism isn't the side of the spectrum calling masculinity "toxic", it's the left.

sperg sperg sperg sperg sperg sperg sperg

Is that your entire argument? You sound like a mental patient my dude. Go kill yourself. Point out the problems with conservatism, present to me in a respectful way, and let's take it one at a time instead of

HURRR DEY ARE ALL SPURGS DURRRRRRRRRR

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao, where are the red herrings and ad hominems? They are all in the OP and your comment. You're entire argument is "duhhh, conservatives are red necks and spergs duuuh xD". State your claim and make an actual argument so I can embarrass you in front of everyone. Of course you won't because you're a cunt xD

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This gon be good. Got any popcorn?

[–]unbecoming-the-drago 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Conservatives don't lose. Social conservatives loose. But the conservatives who aim at creating status and power. The most right-wing people alive don't give a shit about Democracy: they own it. Chances are you don't even know their names. And if you do, you don't understand their power.

What you call "conservatives" are the cucks who eek out a living by evangelizing for the real masters.

[–]Rian_Stone3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the first post that seemed to understand GLO point

[–]SoundHearing46 points47 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Conservatives lie, liberals are two-faced. Trp at its best is critical thinking and the scientific method, at it's worst it's hate-fuelled whining. The ONLY way to get a head is to think for yourself and build a healthy network of allies and collaborators. Fight for the truth and human decency will inevitably come out of the fight.

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

wow there is no one flawless political ideology, you're taking your first baby steps to enlightenment!

[–]SlappaDaBayssMon75 points76 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm not a social conservative, but this is fucking retarded. You lit that strawman up good.

GLO, this is not your best work.

[–]altheman076742 points43 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Seriously this is a shit article.

[–]1The_BitterTruth-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seriously this is a shit comment.

[–]BlackCraneStoic8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

As hippie as this might come off the real reason why the world has gone to shit isn' t a left vs right Feminist v Red Pill thing. It's really simple if you think about it. The world has gone to shit because there's very little natural Love in it.

People love money, sex, status, power, luxury among other things but without heartfelt love and natural concern for people middle school shootings can be viewed with as much indifference as the stock market rising and falling by 1 point.

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If people love money sex status power luxury then you can easily make the argument that THAT IS natural love. Unless you're claiming humans aren't animals, and are some sort of alien creature from another dimension?

[–]BlackCraneStoic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, first you'd have to define what love is. From what I've come to understand of it is that it's inherently selfless. The "love" of sex, money, status, and power are more self seeking obsessions that selfless states of being. Whether this be good, bad, or indifferent makes no difference to me and I care nothing for any irrelevant internet debate about ethics.

Whether you consider men animals or extraterrestrial I couldn't care less. Men are fundamentally enslaved by their obsessions.

[–]BlackCraneStoic7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Conservatives and Liberals are like Batman and the Joker. They define each other in the same fictional narrative. If you don't like the narrative why indulge in the content? Problem with the world today is that too many people are immersed in false realities they dislike so by means of their engagement they perpetuate the things they dislike rather than seeking active change.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I realize this is an old post but I really enjoyed your comment.

[–]jimbad056 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Downvoted. This sub isn't for politics.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Red Pill is identity politics hence the antifeminist stance.

[–]Lennythetrp 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Your post comes off like an unstructured rant where you engage in ad hominem attacks and draw conclusions based on conjecture and hyperbole. Furthermore you also come off very naive and assume everyone here is American.

Go to any other country other then America and western europe and you will see liberal and conservatives aren't different at all. When you have to fight to defend your country and you don't have the luxury of being the worlds biggest superpower your political system is much different.

Stick to writing about women and gender relations.

[–]Merica91112 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your post comes off like an unstructured rant

This.

I really starting to think the OP likes to construct a bunch of flashy "fuck you and get on my intellect" phrases and try to some what make a post about.....?

The OP writing about socialology on LSD isn't good when you're trying to get your point across

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

I agree. I like the idea behind the post but the actual execution isn’t very good.

[–]Lennythetrp 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't even like the idea behind the post. It has nothing to do with self empowerment as politics is almost religious in its nature. Id rather keep things agnostic and focus on the self. I have no interest in politicicking and the reality is our own impact on the worlds system is miniscule. Change yourself and be the change you want to see in the world.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I agree and it should never become the focus of this sub but there is no denying the parallels between TRP and right wing thinking.

[–]zyqkvx3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

TRP is focused on the masculine and the nature of women. It's an easy layup for conservatives to act like TRP is conservative because most women are liberal. I don't feel that way, and the bombardment of new conservatism, which is just a cartoon version of the old shit conservatism that was already bad. 30 years ago I identified as a conservative loosely, because at least they pushed the vision of taking care of yourself, and not setting people up for sloth by feeding the bears. Now both parties are in it to forge their name and their family linage reputation as close to King Author's as possible, awhile sucking 100s of millions and telling the 99% to fuck off.

Perhaps the best way get a conserve his ways is to ask how he could embrace either side.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not talking about the parties though, I’m talking about conservative philosophy.

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're whining that conservatives followed their own will to power? That's strictly anti-TRP. And want to know the only way to combat those people, is to engage them politically. But no, follow OPs advice, do nothing and get fucked. Ignore your own will to power, whine that other's have stronger wills than you.

[–]zyqkvx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you done graveling at my feet insulting me? fuck off

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor-4 points-3 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

It has nothing to do with self empowerment as politics is almost religious in its nature

And yet you can't even see it as a warning against blind devotion to a political party to the exclusion of your own imperatives and mission.

[–]Lennythetrp 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I'd argue redpill is somewhat religious too. Folks come here blindly following, and having faith that some of these principles will guide them down the path of their own fruition.

The real mission however is true self-actualization, but a lot of guys here think it's being "alpha" or fucking lots of women, because ultimately they are lacking something in their lives that prevents them from being confident and fine just being alone.

Why do I bring this up? Because it has nothing to do with politics, and political identity. As I've noted, it's a microcosm of society that is so far removed from our day to day lives, and while it helps to have an understanding of what's going on, there's nothing really relevant here for self-empowerment.

[–]Rian_Stone1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It would be nice if they followed. It would be nice if they read the sidebar.

The only thing I'm. Sure of is coming in here blind. Doesn't stop one from. Running ones. Mouth

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor-1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Folks come here blindly following

The real mission however is true self-actualization,

Did you actually read the post? It's a 10 gauge blast of this to the face and yet somehow you completely miss that.

Rhetoric. Bury that shit.

[–]Lennythetrp 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

What's rhetoric about those two statements?

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Nothing. That's the point.

Jesus

[–]Lennythetrp 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

You're so difficult to talk with. I have no idea wtf you're trying to tell me.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Which word confused you?

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

you're intentionally being a cunt and it's very obvious. Get your pussy douched you might feel better, nobody understand what the fuck your point is. State your claim clearly so I can actually pick it apart.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This has a predictable outcome.

[–]AnonNoDox-1 points0 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

Clearly, his post refers to conservatism and liberalism as it is practiced in America, a place he likely lives in and knows best. He has no interest, nor an obligation, in assuming a global context while writing about this issue.

His post resonates well with his target audience, a group that certainly does not include over-defensive folk who know not much of America’s political climate or who are unwilling to learn.

If you knew more about America instead of succumbing to your understandable jealousy towards it, you’d find this post much more enlightening and perhaps actionable

[–]1NPIF12 points13 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Who TF is jealous of America in 2018? Certainly not Europeans. Your country is a global laughingstock, run by a reality tv star with no qualifications for government and the public speaking ability of a fifth grader. Get over yourself

[–]Vrixithalis11 points12 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

As an Australian, I have to say the US is more fucked up socially and demographically, but Europe is way more cucked politically.

[–]1NPIF19 points20 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

"Cucked" has got to be one of the most over used terms on this sub, so much so it's lost any semblance of meaning. Use your words, Kangaroo Jack. What is your actual grievance with EU politics? The social progressivism? The influx of migrants? Speak English, not memes.

[–]LukesLikeIt3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Let’s remove emotion so we can have a discussion instead of thinly veiled insults.

[–]Vrixithalis-3 points-2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

"Cucked" has a clear meaning. Are you confused what it is? It seems that the only people who seem to not know what it refers to are cucks.

Also, "progressivism" is a funny word. It's a bit like "diversity".

Western Europe is more politically bluepilled than the US. Eastern Europe is going fine though. Happy now?

[–]1NPIF7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not really. You didn't answer my question. And cucked, by definition, means a man whose wife is fucking around with his knowledge and consent. Which makes zero sense in a political context.

[–]Short-changedChad7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Language evolves. In this case quickly. 2 years ago “Cuck” meant a man whose wife has sex with other men to his knowledge.

Now it is more nuanced and can also refer to someone who counsciously does something they don’t want to do because they are afraid of external repercussion. Conversly it can also refer to someone who is ignorant of their situation- like a cuckold.

[–]Vrixithalis4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The term has a rather amorphous definition, but I think that it means someone who compromises on their values or "sells-out" what they should hold as important to the "enemy". A conservative might be called a "cuckservative" for compromising right-wing principles to the left.

It basically just means a weak person. It's mostly applied to people who want open borders, or for right-wingers who let the left walk all over them. It's used to degrade someone who doesn't have the presence to prevent his woman from having sex with other men.

The political term "cuck" isn't suggesting that cucks want to be degraded by the left, it is suggesting that they are too weak to stand up to the left the way an actual cuck (not a person who gets off on it) is too weak to stand up to their wife.

[–]zyqkvx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've read 'Europe is more cucked' several times in the past and have no idea what that means. Please tell us what cucked means in this context without using another word like cucked. I want to know what point you were making. Do you mean woman's influence on government?

[–]gaytheistfedora1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You're not even jealous of free refills? Or A/C pretty everywhere? Or our incredible interstate highway system?

[–]1NPIF0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Are you genuinely assuming these things only exist in America? Because if you are, you should probably travel abroad for once.

[–]gaytheistfedora0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you genuinely such a angry person that you have to take everything seriously? What I said was a joke. But, since you insist on being a dick about it; I've been to a few European countries and I've actually lived in a South American country for a year and half. The United States is so much better. I find life outside of the USA to be inconvenient. Customer service is atrocious, and I felt like I was being scammed by everyone. Europe and Brazil were just dirty filthy places and the people didn't care at all about how they treated the place that they call home. I take care of where I live and I am proud of it.

[–]1NPIF0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You misconstrue my distaste for arrogance as anger.

[–]gaytheistfedora0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say anything about myself being great. I was just talking about the land I live on. People outside of the US talk shit about this country because of the politics and whatever else, but little do they know that what goes on in the news has little to no effect on the average US citizen. I'm happy as shit here, as are most people that live in the US.

[–]Omnibrad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You know what people say when they're jealous?

"I'm totally not jealous."

[–]ThePantsThief-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No shit. That's the point of the post.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hahaha yet so many people keep begging us, no, raging at us, to let them move here. It's very strange...

[–]1NPIF0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

People from so-called "shithole" countries still want to move to the United States because America once represented liberty and justice, a better life, the chance to build a family in a place where all men are created equal. That ideal still means something when you have nothing.

I'm referring to the opinions of those who live in every other developed country. We see America instead for its chronic racism, xenophobia, school shootings and a crumbling educational system. America is where prison is lucrative and healthcare is insufficient. It's a place where profit is preferred over doing the right thing, and a nation where a black man is murdered by police for acknowledging his 2nd amendment rights. Meanwhile white boys shoot up their schools, churches, and movie theaters and live to stand trial for their crimes.

Your system of governance is corrupt. Trump is corrupt. So many Americans justify collecting guns by suggesting they might one day need to rise up against a tyrannical government. I fear those days are closer than we think.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lots of words, very little actually said. Standard operating procedure for GayLubeOil. Really an idiotic post overall.

[–]pezzaperry0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The problem is the entire basis of his argument is that conservatism is an identity rather than a way of describing someone’s political beliefs. It’s like Americans think if you have certain beliefs you must be lumped into an ideological identity.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love GLO he's a hero, but this was not good. It seemed like he wanted to say the conservatives aren't your friends either, and they're not...but it didn't come out well articulated.

But the part about wrestling the narrative brought it back, that was good.

[–]2mental_models-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

don't 'describe' other people's use of effective game

[–]SnowMonkeyCracker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

A classic example of blue-pill conservatism is Prager U's assertion to be a man and get married. Why? Because married work more hours and earn more money! However, no mention is made of divorce rape or overall quality of life.

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If there were more masculine men who got married, raised other masculine men and kept their women in line, the divorce laws would be very different. Divorce rape is the direct result of the lack of personal responsibility(conservatism) and the increase of "daddy government will save me from all my mistakes"(liberalism)

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How are the chosen people supposed to get their sheckles if the Goys stop making divorces?

[–]Nightshade3739 points40 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm a conservative first and foremost because I believe the constitution of the United States should be preserved and that basically the government sucks at just about everything. It should be as small as possible. Personal responsibility is emphasized which is extremely RP.

A liberal soy boy blames the world for his problems and demands that daddy government come in and help him. He bitches that if only the government was big enough that societies problems would go away. A liberal soyboy believes that I feel therefore it must be true or it is automatically good and everyone should fall in line with my feelings. It's about feeling better about oneself than actually helping anyone. It is about having a feeling about something then going out to find facts to justify that feeling instead of looking at all of the evidence first then coming to your own conclusion about the world.

[–]TooHoly9997 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Modern "liberalism" is rooted in having the government take care of people. Classical liberalism is rooted in one taking care of themselves.

Anyone who wants an entity to take care of them, rather than creating an environment in which they can thrive, is inherently beta.

[–]steini19040 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, liberalism kinda lost the irony it was assigned with to the authoritarian left

[–]hahayeahthatscool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

classical liberalism was absorbed by modern conservatism ever since Marx and his followers decided liberalism and leftist ideology should be based on giving the state all the power.

[–]Regl_b0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I thought classic liberalism was about owning a bunch of slaves and getting them to take care of you...

[–]ProPotFarmer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well shit, you are dumb as fuck then. When you learn Lincoln was a Republican your brain will probably assplode (you have shit for brains so it doesn't explode, just assplode, because you are retarded as shit).

[–]Regl_b0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, Lincoln was a Republican (no shit), and democrats founded the KKK and wanted to keep the slave trade alive and well. What am I missing here Mr. PotFarmer?

[–]StraightGlueWater0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The ideals of conservatism, sure. In practice, modern conservatives are willing to flip on every principle they claim to hold. I'm ashamed at how easily they rolled over to Trump. Unprincipled fucks.

[–]chaseemall-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you were a real conservative you'd support the Stuart Monarchy

[–]Auphor_Phaksache9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I hate TRP because I love it so much. When you keep what is useful and disregard what isn't, this place truly is golden. Unfortunately a lot of in-fighting about what is useful to who. Read and apply whats needed to your situation. This is structure not scripture.

[–]yuyevin43 points44 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

This is why I’m a libertarian. Too liberal to be a republican, too conservative to be a Democrat

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Then just wait for GLO's troll post about how libertarian are the worst.

[–]modTheRedPike4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And the point of that post will also blow past three quarters of reddit and I'll have a long day of playing Whack-A-Sperg, as everyone gets all vaginal and PMS-y.

I'm going to have to start sending GLO bills for my time.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll mail you a Herclues Tank Top if it makes you feel better.

[–]KnowBrainer26 points27 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

There is enough room between the modern Republican and Democrat for dozens of reasonable political parties.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If they were reasonable solutions within the confines of the overton window the Red Pill wouldn't exist.

[–]KnowBrainer14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I had to look that one up.

Reading about strategies of application I see:

deliberate promotion of ideas outside of it, or "outer fringe" ideas, with the intention of making less fringe ideas acceptable by comparison.

Like the MSM continually telling us that broadcasting a mass shooter's identity creates copycats, then they broadcast mass shooters, then push for stricter gun control.

[–]csehszlovakze 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

There would be, except the American voting system creates this de facto two party state that you already have. Both the Republican and the Democratic Party knows this well enough not to even think about touching it, and thanks to that most of your elections are nothing more than a joke with most states not even thinking about alternatives.

[–]KnowBrainer3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. System working as intended: no new entries into the political landscape.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

This is such a red herring. Every political system ultimately ends up this way. Third parties in Parliamentary systems end up forming a coalition government or joining the opposition with the equivalent of their major liberal or conservative party. It's not like these small parties are actually governing anywhere, because they are by definition not very popular.

And the Republicans and Democrats have wings to their parties that do achieve the political diversity that everyone is always bitching about. Republicans for example have the RINO wing, the religious right wing, and the libertarian/tea party wing

[–]csehszlovakze 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

There's a stark difference: most parliamentary systems "allow" new parties to emerge, to be part of the parliament, and eventually that party might win an election. Look around in Europe and tell me it's the same as in the USA where there's close to zero chance for a third party to win the elections. Think of Greece where a newer leftist party (Syriza) has seized power in the last election. There's a reason why Bernie Sanders run Democrat instead of building a new party that actually shares his views, and the same could be said about Trump.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

But you are making my point by mentioning Trump and Bernie. They both have significant freedom to operate as they wish and build a following within the framework of the two party system.

A new more populist labor/working class faction of the Republican party won the Presidency in 2016. The tea party won significant power and influence in Congress in 2010. If not for the mind boggling corruption of the DNC the Bernie socialist wing might have won the dem primary in 2016. Historically from the 1960s through around 2000 you had two distinct wings of the democratic party - one more labor focused and traditionalist and one more liberal.

You mention that a far left party in Greece has become popular. But what do you think has happened in America? Over the last 10-15 years lots of far left candidates have won democratic primaries and then seats in Congress, strengthening that faction of the democratic party and moving it further left.

[–]csehszlovakze 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

You keep talking about wings of the two dominant parties, not completely independent parties. I googled around a bit and found that the 3rd biggest party is the libertarian party with 0 seats in either houses.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can't really make my point any more clearly, but it seems like you aren't getting it.

[–]hrm08940 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Parties are the result of a countries social, economic issues, and other crisis'. In American history there have been many political parties as a result, some that come to mind: free soil party, Federalists, anti Federalists, democrat-republicans, and Whigs.

[–]monkeysword88 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Letting people do whatever the fuck they want is how things got so shitty. I used to be a libertarian too.

[–]wracky2728 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Too liberal to be a republican, too conservative to be a Democrat

That would make you a centrist. Do you know what libertarianism is or are you hipster bandwagoning?

[–]yuyevin8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Ok let me be more specific. I am socially liberal, but fiscally conservative.

[–]Woodie3277 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Socially liberal but fiscally conservative" could be misconstrued as you believe in black lives matter and 68 genders but you think bitcoin is too dangerous of an investment

[–]steini19041 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

bitcoin is a shitty investment.

transaction fees are insane, waiting times even more so. Relying on a algorithm designed to devalue the currency in a few decades tops it all.

The bitcoin market is a ticking time bomb an in order to deterministically trade on it you need to react within time limits shorter than the approval time of your transactions. Unless of course you have enough processing power available to just mine the bloody block on your own

It's playing lotto with the temptation of leverage. I'd rather bet on Russian Roulette with 5 rounds.

[–]boyyouguysaredumb1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol aka the biggest cop out of all time

[–]GeeMunz112 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or just a point of view that is so narrow that the major political parties do not pander to it.

Currently neither American party is fiscally conservative. This is just a fact. Both parties are being caricatured by the fringes. Do you really think all conservatives support a Trump agenda? Or all liberals are like these campus feminists? Nah they're just the loudest and most annoying.

[–]octriathlete44 points45 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude you have a very unrealistic perspective of what is going on in the country.

[–]NSFWIssue18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ironically he has a perspective based on identity politics, which is firmly in the realm of progressivism. Conservatism is a culture-wide cooperative illusion from which everyone can benefit if they choose to participate. Progressivism is the idea that you can flip over the table and you just might be able to come out on top in the resulting scramble, and if you don't you can just keep trying because all societies are fundamentally run by conservative principles. It's the ideology of rats, and OP's argument is that "rats get what they want" so you should try to be like a rat. (Actually, that's giving progressivism too much credit, because at least rats care for their young)

[–]lardblarg-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone is triggered

[–]chaseemall2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What the hell do you mean we can't win by opposing the liberals on x, then once x passes, accepting x as hallowed tenet of conservatism? What are you saying? That we're cucks? How dare you! When opposing women's suffrage was the right thing to do, we opposed it. But once it was clear that Women's suffrage was in keeping with conservative principles we accepted it. And when we let Reagan ban machine guns and allow no-fault divorce and amnesty for illegals, those were conservative positions, and don't you dare criticize him for it! And we might have been the first ones to propose Obamacare, but when it came time to oppose it, we did! But of course we couldn't repeal it when it came time. It was the status quo once it passed. After all, we're conservatives and we conserve the status quo, whatever the hell it might be.

[–]1kick66 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Conservatives are uncreative losers, but theyre really good at keeping the wheels on things that already exist. You want a liberal to think of new products, and make a company, but a conservative to run it so it doesn't implode.

The problem with conservatives is that they reliably fail to conserve anything. Well, except for liberal progress. Then the libs move the chains. And conservatives begin to conserve that.

[–]AmeriStasi16 points17 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

You can say what you will, but demographic data speaks for itself. Conservatism is likely genetic.

Ever since the introduction of mass birth control, and feminism, the liberal birthrate has tanked and is now far below replacement (reducing their population 30%-50% every generation, where as the conservative birthrate is stable, or in a surplus. When you compare liberal vs conservative states, you already see a difference in fertility rates. Given that most conservative states have liberals, and most liberal states have conservatives, one can assume that the divergence when isolating to genetic political bias is even greater.

When you compare traditionally liberal vs conservative groups of people, such as the religious vs the atheists, you see that atheists have sub-replacement fertility rates (thus slowly being eliminated), while the conservatives are a growing population across the board. Religiously unaffiliated sitting around 1.6 births per woman (2.1 as replacement). Christians at 2.6, Muslims at 2.9.

When solely isolating to Jews, and looking at the differences in behavior between Conservative vs Liberal Jews, you see the conservative ones are more likely to be married young, while the conservative orthodox Jews have a fertility rate of 4.1, and irreligious Jews have a fertility rate of 1.5, making them sub-replacement, evolutionary dead-ends.

When looking at the Mormons, we see that they are more likely to be married at a younger age, and have a fertility rate of 3.4, far higher than your average Christian.

Reality doesn't care about your ideology - whether you believe in Marxism, Feminism, Christianity, Islam, or the tenets of the Red Pill. All it cares about is results, and a declining fertility is a sign of a weak group of people with a dark future. If your ideology leads you a sub-replacement fertility rate, how can you argue your ideology is successful. It's successful at weeding out your degenerate genetics from humanity, because you can't critically identify which ideologies benefit your self-interests, and which don't.

What do you think the fertility rate is of these childless idiots I read comments from on this sub, that get vasectomy's and never marry. You'll be gone, and conservative, people with children will replace you. The future looks more like us, and less like you.

Every generation from now, moving forward, will be increasingly conservative. There are likely less liberal genetics in existence in the younger cohort of Americans in 2017, than there were in the young cohort of the 70's, as those childless, feminist, liberal women hit their 40's and see the end of their fertility window... And the liberal men that chose to tie their fate to them are childless alongside them. 25% of German women in their 40's are childless. 20% of American women born between 1962 and 1966 are childless. This childlessness most certainly disproportionately affects liberal parents who are promoting feminism, liberalism, and other degenerate anti-patriarchal ideologies to their children. We're experiencing one of the greatest evolutionary events in modern history, on par with WW2. We're seeing the weak, liberal genetics being completely obliterated from the gene pool, with only patriarchal conservatives being spared. In 3 generations time, you'll basically have everyone selfishly looking out for themselves, with strong in-group preferences. We'll have Conservative Europeans, competing with other Conservative ethnic groups, and an ever-decreasing minority of old, liberals in their 70's and 80's dying alone, with no children to give a fuck about them, in depressing facilities where the state will put sick, soon-to-be-dead, childless, old folks. Feminism has absolutely destroying Liberalism. It's fucking glorious, and worth eating popcorn while cheering from the sideline. The only thing conservatives need to do is prepare for the fall out from the liberals dying off, and inheriting their broken systems. We'll need to form new countries in a few generations time, and restructure society. It's just a matter of a time and a few generations at this point.

[–]jimbad057 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

When you compare traditionally liberal vs conservative groups of people, such as the religious vs the atheists, you see that atheists have sub-replacement fertility rates (thus slowly being eliminated)

Ridiculous fallacy, as you're assuming that the religion of the parents always dictates the religion of the child.

By your logic, religion is an unchanging characteristic like race. You're suggesting that atheists are only born from atheists, christians from christians, etc.

In reality, most of the atheists or otherwise "religiously unaffiliated" were born from religious parents.

[–]privacythrowaway20030 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ridiculous fallacy, as you're assuming that the religion of the parents always dictates the religion of the child.

You contradicted your point with this sentence.

If your parents were liberal when they had you and were polled, and you were conservative when you had a child and polled, then it supports his point.

We aren't going to end up a race of multiple different skin pigments, eye color, religion, languages and we won't end up with factionized governments and countries.

/u/AmeriStasi is right on the money.

[–]chaseemall5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a massive white pill. Saved.

[–]Reaper55550 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You forget, their numbers are being bolstered by the illegals that they're bringing over the border. It really is an interesting trap they've found themselves in. In order to truly get rid of guns they have to crack down on the border to keep illegal guns out, but to do that will also shut down the votes they need to get elected. And so theyve confined themselves to an endless circle where they grow through fear and hatred all while not doing a single thing that they say they will.

[–]hibloodstevia9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So, is this become a shill sub now?

[–]chaseemall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He's criticizing weakling conservatives, no different from the way Trump has been criticizing weakling conservatives.

[–]firezenukes8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone in this thread is literally dumber for reading that.

[–]BornShook2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The liberals who just say and post straight up retarded shit just need to be 100% ignored by everybody. We have been told by the media that we should be focusing on transgenders and feminism. Now they are all over the place. We shouldnt have listened to the msm to begin with and none of this lunacy would have happened. Its all a big distraction to get us all to watch, and it is supposed to stir up debate and piss people off. The media is making money off that shit. Theyre making money on us being divided on everything. Neither side has all the right answers. Just pick a side and stfu about it. If somebody actually cares about transgender rights, ask yourself why do they believe what they believe.

[–]C_Till2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love the right hate you get when you call them on their bullshit.

Oh, you hate the left? You must be a red blooded 'murcian gay basher like me!

Nah fam, both of you are idiots.

rage begins

[–]1AlfredKinsey2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of young dudes need to hear this. SJW hate is easy, being critical of reactionary conservative responses that feel good and sound nice is not so easy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

I feel like that last one metaphor went through the roof. Or a chimney.

[–]Rian_Stone2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm surprised how.any people lost their shit at everything but those three statements.

Which we're truly the most provocative

[–]Work_In_Progress929 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why I never buy into the liberal/conservative garbage. They both like to victimize themselves, just on different matters and issues.

Great post GLO as always.

[–]FullMetalAsshole7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

GLO is right. Part of the problem is the Anglo bias towards systemization and rigid processes. Look into any non AngloGermanic country in the world and you'll see that people tend to be much more flexible in their approach to problem solving. Just look at corruption. Largely economically motivated. If you're a poor shmuck being underpaid to be a paper pusher that bribe starts looking mighty nice. Ask any immigrant and they'll say the US is retardedly rigid and that the people in general lack imagination.

Couple this situation with some of them good old Ashkenazi intelligence genetics and now you know why ze Juden run the SJW power hour. Growing up in a chaotic culture and having the intelligence to take advantage of it will do that. The counter example would literally be the entire continent of Africa.

[–]chaseemall4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That lack of amoral imagination is better called ethics, and it is the reason that Anglo-Germanic societies have a high degree of trust. That high degree of trust is why the place economically flourishes.

[–]FullMetalAsshole0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

For sure. Any culture that has that rigid systemization will dominate economically. I'd wager that's why Asians are the highest earning immigrant group pretty well wherever they go. They also lack imagination though. If China was that creative they wouldn't have to jack patents. That lack of amoral imagination is called intellectual property theft.

While there may be a slightly lower level of trust within the group if you're in a chaotic place there is a higher level of trust when compared to other groups. For example if I'm an immigrant in the US I may have a slight distrust within my group but I sure as shit trust my people more than Americans.

This is why uncontrolled immigration lowers trust in a society and lowers social cohesion. Homogenous societies would have less social ills.

[–]Dragon_Garoo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The USA thrived on Intellectual Property theft in the early days; it was well known in Canada and there were laws against obtaining books from the USA because they were breaking copyright and essentially bootleg versions of original works. That ethos in the USA pervaded into other pursuits of science and technology, which led to the innovations and breakthroughs. Today, it's China imitating the USA's industrial revolution and well, it's working. The US has become the IP masters trying to hold on to all the knowledge and monetize the information, whereas it was Britain in the past that had the innovations and sold them throughout the Empire for vast sums. It was mercantilism at it's core. Funny, I never until just now thought about how the IP aspect of mercantilism worked. :-)

Here's an example: http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/12/06/we-were-pirates-too/

[–]textualintercourse12 points13 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

SJW: "It's my right to cut off my cock and then try to pass a law to force you to fuck me! REEE! | Religious Right: "It's my right to not bake your cake and then try to pass a law for you to not have sex at all unless after you're married and then only for kids! Beta Bux is me! REEE!"

BOTH are selfish fucking ideologies that want to control and legislate how YOU live.

Same coin, same approaches, just different bullshit.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Religious people are possibly the least intelligent individuals on the planet. Worse than any political party as a whole. They blindly follow their leader and pay money to support fake gods.

[–]textualintercourse7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Be that as it may, they at least have the concept of a Being more powerful than them instilling fear to guilt them into action about their moralising.

Social fucking dumbass cultural marxist soyboy neckbeard bitch politically weakass Hillary knee fuck pieces of shitstain fuck face bastard pussies have NOTHING, they literally have NOTHING to push their guilt based agenda, and STILL expect people to feel guilt to push their progressive shit. At least the religious have a (fake and myth) God character that at least gives them an excuse for their stupidity. SJW fuck fool pieces of fucking shit antifa goddamn fucks don't even have that...and STILL think you should live how they want.

In hindsight (both are ridiculous) which group is the bigger fool?

[–]anyracetam0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

OMG, this is gold. I laugh all day reading this comment.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Religious people and libs both have nothing to back their claims and assertions.

[–]buddahbusted-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

The social issues nonsense of the sjw's has nothing to say about the power of progressive economics for all men who are not already at the top of the food chain. I am a libertarian on social issues, but until I am a billionaire I'm voting for democrats. I understand they have their own nonsense but that is what will help MY wallet.

[–]textualintercourse1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Paying for someone's hormone replacement therapy via theft by taxation will help your wallet?

Makes perfect sense.

The tax cut alone has saved my brother 25k on his business tax. I'm making more as well.

[–]buddahbusted0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hormone replacement therapy is not a real fiscal concern when you look at the budget, you bringing it up is a cheap emotional appeal to people overly concerned about such things.

The "tax cut" was just a way to load up the national deficit with a short term payoff to convince the gullible middle classes to accept letting the billionaires and multinational corporations off from paying their due.

If your family is making over $1 million a year, good job. Otherwise ya'll got played. If the science of economics does not fit "red pill" then it is worthless.

You are so focused on bullshit transgender issues that make no real difference to the bottom line, that you don't see that's how the rich pick pockets. And once I'm rich I'd do the same thing, but until then I'm going to fight for the class I'm in rather than the one one I want to be in.

[–]textualintercourse0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Start a business then and get the permanent aspect of the tax cuts!!! Jesus Christ.

[–]buddahbusted0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course individually as men we should be able to navigate any political or economic event life throws at us.

That does not change the fact that the policy change is currently bad for me, and worrying about the tax policy of future rich me is not rational until I am actually rich. I am for nothing more than rational self interest.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Conservatism philosophy is good but the people who represent us in Washington and the media are absolute cuckolds. It’s exactly why Trump is such a breath of fresh air, he’s the first Republican I’ve ever known to punch back at the lunatics.

[–]thetotalpackage79 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. I think GLO is correct in his assessment that most conservatives play in the crazy left's frame which is a losing strategy. But Trump re-wrote the playbook on how to deal with crybabies who are used to having their way. He comes out swinging, doesn't play by their rules (or the media's)...and it is making them nuts.

[–]Fearofthedark8818 points19 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Good post. People assume red pill ideology is conservative by nature, I applaud you challenging being dogmatic about political orientation.

[–]bl_12 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

The post is whatever. And meta. There's a difference between being a conservative-minded person and a bandwagon NeoRepublican who follows the bouncing ball. TRP is absolutely conservative by nature and it's not going to do much for you to engage in a life of leftist degeneracy if you want to better yourself long-term.

[–]Fearofthedark88-3 points-2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You’re relying on ad hominem to support your argument. Leftists don’t aim to make people dependent. They recognize our economic system creates a system of winners and losers, and want to make sure that opportunity is available to all, not just the wealthy elite.

Its the entire notion of the American Dream, in a nutshell. Without policies to protect workers and the public from unethical business practices, We’d be seeing working conditions not unlike what we had in the 1800’s. Work 16 hours a day, unsafe conditions, pollution that was dumped into the environment which contaminates the food supply, not to mention abysmally low wages that did not even allow workers to build wealth or even be out of poverty.

Basically, leftists fight against the system trying to stop you from buying your own fucking boots, not to have someone else pull those straps up for you.

[–]bl_12 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

and want to make sure that opportunity is available to all

Marxists don't believe in equality of opportunity, they believe in equality of outcome. Opportunity is available to all. Where is it not, aside from in leftist totalitarian dictatorships?

Basically, leftists fight against the system trying to stop you from buying your own fucking boots

What?

[–]nomansapenguin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Equality of outcome from a “similar input”.

You can reasonably predict how wealthy a person will be based on the wealth of their grandparents. You hear so many conservatives talking about working hard, but hard work has a negligible impact on financial success.

Leftists’ favour meritocracy way more than conservatives pretend to.

[–]factor8_-1 points0 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I would argue that being progressive (on economics) is the most red pill ideology. Helping those who are weaker than yourself rather than shitting on them to boost your ego.

[–]killking725 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I would argue that being progressive (on economics) is the most red pill ideology.

How is giving people free shit RP?

[–]factor8_3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Helping people who are less fortunate than you is the most alpha thing you can do tbh. Plus public healthcare and education is good economics, but this isn't the place to have that argument.

[–]Fearofthedark880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Personally, I agree. Healthier and more educated people tend to earn more money, and therefore have more disposable income to put into the economy.

[–]Fearofthedark883 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That is definitely an oversimplification of what progressive policies aim to do.

[–]Omnibrad5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Nobody cares what they aim to do. We only care what they actually do.

[–]Fearofthedark881 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I could say the same about conservative policies as well. Reality is, there is some truth to both ideologies.

[–]Omnibrad2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Bullshit. Neither side is telling you the truth. "The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" - you won't find this in politics.

[–]Fearofthedark880 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. This is why you need to read between the lines and inform yourself.

Reality is much more nuanced than black or white thinking.

[–]Omnibrad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are bullshitting yourself.

Reality is, there is some truth to both ideologies.

There is NO truth from EITHER ideology. It’s not about nuance. When you give testimony in court they don’t ask for the nuanced truth.

[–]SILENTSAM697 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ah, a breath of fresh air. I had started thinking I was going to have to take TRP lessons, but leave the community as it is too conservative.

I remember someone started a group called TheRedhillRight and thought it was either a step in the wrong direction, or a way to get all the conservatives to go talk that stuff over there. I made a joke saying we should also have TheRedPillLeft.

Obviously TRP should reject the ignorance of seeing things from a premade perspective. You have your perspective. You are an individual.

[–]ProPotFarmer2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

'Conservative' is a meaningless term.... it is supposed to be used as opposed to Progressive and Revolutionary.

Not VS liberal.... nearly all 'conservatives' are CLASSICAL LIBERALS.

Liberals... are simply MARXISTs.

Libertarians piss off both sides because they are the only ones that aren't fucking retarded. Look into it. Stop being a liberal cuck... its just as bad as being a religious cuck.

[–]SILENTSAM690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

See the real problems is everyone creating new definitions for words that already have definitions. That is fine, as language does evolves, but it does contribute to the confusion.

Liberal is in no way Marxist. Marxists hate Liberals. Liberals are centrist. Marx is deadhead far left. Liberal and Libertarian are very close.

[–]earthmother92[🍰] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually agree with you.

[–]randarrow4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Conservatism isn't a movement, it doesn't have a plan. It is a mode. It served a function in history, by being an alternative to liberalism, in that it gave other chances to survival. This transcends cultures and religions.

In times of scarcity, war, and disease; conservatism is often the best defense against death. When there were no doctors, and the survival of the community required everyone to breed and be successful, the conservatives may have been only one to survive.

Don't act like it is any more or less wrong than other modes, it simply has it's time.

Ie, in an isolated community of a few hundred people, for a few hundred years, MGTOW/spinsters would destroy them. Failure to breed results in dying out and inbreeding. Polygamy results in inbreeding. Non-kosher food results in parasites. Social strife prevents and chance to survive when everyone has to work. Homosexual men are much more vulnerable to disease, in an age without doctors they would have been miserable and hurt survival of communities.

In a crowded/diverse community, free sex results in veneral disease which might actually kill people.

In many ways, conservatism results in self quarantining and ensures healthy breeding patterns. Which has been necessary at times, and a hindrance at others.

(And of course, liberalism has benefits at times and conservatism has issues at times). But, we're talking Plymouth vs Roanoke vs Coatoan vs Soddom here. Many communities and villages ended up in similar situations over the millenia.

[–]ShadowOfAnIdea4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The conservative solution is to bundle disapproval of the masturbating homeless man with tax policy that benefits wealthy conservatives.

Using moral issues as an incentive for lower and lower middle class Americans to vote against their own financial best interest is hijacking the narrative.

[–]boxrlvr4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Gonna be a sad day when we get taxed for masturbation. It could pay off the national debt though.

[–]1by1is31 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

At $1 per fap tax, it would take approx 1000 years to pay off the national debt

[–]GoGetting1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The issue is in the name. When all you try to do is conserve the way things are, while the other side keeps swinging the wrecking ball, things obviously can't get better. You're just trying to conserve an increasingly shit thing.

So if you want to actually revert things, I'm sure there's a better term.

[–]wertrax1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty obvious if you ask me, anyone who reads the sidebar (especially the misandry bubble) knows that most of the bluepill chivalry shit came from conservative loosers that only can consent to sjw at some point.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I get you, civic nationalism which conservatives put forward is weird, since it is essentially a form of cucking. You're putting people of different kin together and saying they're indistinguishable to gently lubricate that Globalisation dick for your sweet Swedish asshole.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, this trp escalates quickly. From how to be a man to there is only one truth... Every time when someone is trying, even subconciously, force me to his own truly right, my BS alert lights up. And it's even worse because that comes from celebrity of trp.

[–]goldaxis1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Complete lack of historical education and knowledge of current affairs. I don’t even know where to begin. Every single word I wrong.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

According to your highschool government class maybe keep drinking that Kool aid

[–]molokomoloko7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You lost me at “Gaylubeoil”

[–]theadj123 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Stick to talking about banging bitches, you suck dick at talking about politics.

[–]Hailteni NaHalitenina[M] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Attack the idea, not the man.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 18 points19 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

You just proved my point that conservatives are uncreative losers. You can't refute my claim so here you are responding to my narrative with a non argument. Your also too retarded to come up with a counternarative.

Your comment proves my argument.

How about you put a quarter in your asshole cuz you just played yourself?

[–]theadj12317 points18 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

This is an unstructured rant made to do nothing but shit stir with your edgy attempts at humor that I'm sure work on bitches, but they don't work on someone who applies any sense of logic. I'll bite and refute your claims. I'm sure you'll mock since you don't really give a shit about anyone's reply unless it says "hey GLB I bought one of your shirts", but that's OK.

However today we're taking the Hate Train in the opposite direction and discussing the people who didled themselves awkwardly while the West took veiny multicultural dick to the face, vagina and anus. That's right, today we're talking bout conservatives, why they always lose and how not to be them.

A core component of conservatism is that people are free to do as they wish as everyone is in control of their own life. If people want to take veiny multicultural dick to all their holes, that is their choice. This is no different than being 'accepting' of LGBT people - I support anyone's right to fall into those categories, but despite what GLB may say I'm not into that. Unlike some Broward County deputy sheriffs recently, we have no duty or requirement to try to act here. Also an Appeal to Emotion, specifically guilt for 'standing by while <taking dicks in holes> happens' - quit shit testing then trying to say you want a logical response.

Now at this point you and the 20-30k people who usually read my diatribes are wondering: GaylubeOil why you shiting on Conservatives? I mean they basically agree with you most of the time? So what gives? AltRight I'll tell you bro. If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

The Republican party ended slavery and radical communists ended the Czar. You are trying to imply that the status quo is inherently conservative, which is simply not true. I would define the core ideal of conservatism as being able to be in charge of the decisions made in your life for yourself. We obviously make trade-offs in places for that: we limit the power of minors and the mentally handicapped to make their own choices, in the US we have a republic that lets us offload some decisions to others on our behalf, etc. I certainly wouldn't consider an absolute monarchy a conservative form of government, the authoritarian nature of such a regime where the state is one (wo)man and their will is imposed on others directly without checks and balances of any form is the antithesis of conservatism. Such an argument is supported by the Nolan Chart, which specifically deals with those wild swings of authoritarian and libertarian governments that aren't exactly left-right divided. Bringing up Germany is again a poor example as National Socialism is so far into the authoritarian realm as to be the most extreme of right wing governments. Being right wing isn't inherently conservative, especially in such a case where your personal freedoms and choices are curtailed by the state in favor of itself at both an economic and social level.

At this point a bunch of Stoic logical Alfalfas are flipping their shit because I made some bad bad inappropriate jokes. Those same people swear that liberals and political correctness are the devil. But here they are, mad at me for breaking a speech code that liberals spent decades putting into practice. Think about that for a second. They hate liberals but live their lives by liberal rules. Fucking retarded right? Yea super retarded. That's conservatives.

Agreed, fighting by "their" rules is a good way to lose. Ironic since I'm responding to your blatant shit post, but I argue boredom after getting to work.

So why are conservatives such losers? Why did conservatives lose on basically every social issue for the past 100 years? Because conservatives are dimwitted and unimaginative. Their most profound ideas are tax cuts and wars. Liberals have the creativity to say: 7 year old Transgenders? Sounds good let's make that happen. Conservatives on the other hand can't even trick a white bitch into having a few more babies. But what about abortion?

Your 'past 100 year' examples are pretty much only post 1970 examples. I would use examples like the Interstate System in the US as a great example of conservative ideas. It put people to work who needed it post WW2, it resolved a national problem (easier military movement across the country on ground), and it greatly increased the ability of the individual to move around on their own. In the modern day you can get to an interstate and travel to any major city in the US pretty damn fast without much hassle. I would also argue that most of the social issues post 1970 that the Republican party (note - I did not say conservatives, just the Republican party) has focused on are due to the change in the party due to Nixon's Southern Strategy. In my opinion this is the downfall of the Republican Party and why Trump has so many supporters right now, he isn't a 100% religiously driven wacko and is pragmatic. You say 'creativity' in liberals just coming up with things like 7 year old transgender kids, I say it's a giant shit test wrapped in an appeal to emotion bow. Logic doesn't care about emotion, so emotional arguments just fall flat. Just because they say something is true, like a chick having a dick, doesn't make it so. Conservatives that argue for banning abortion argue that the unborn has rights, whereas those that want abortion legal say that the already independent female citizen has rights that supercede the unborn's rights. That's a logical pair of statements that have to be evaluated, there's nothing emotional about them. No one's trying to trick anyone into having more babies, any attempt to do that is just another emotional appeal.

Ok let's talking about that. Decreasing the need for immigration is predicated on making women want to have more babies. It's not about forcing them into having babies. When you force people to do something they usually want to do the opposite. Liberals know this and call it the Hegelian Dialectic. Conservatives don't. Which is why some of them frolic in white robes and burn crosses. The only thing that the KKK has ever accomplished is the promotion of diversity. Maybe if Billy Bob Banjo possessed introspection and foresight he'd realize that his method isn't working and never worked. Perhaps then he could redirect his efforts towards funding segregation propaganda like the Black Panther film.

Decreasing the need for immigration has nothing to do with women having more babies, you're arguing from the frame of a Democrat by stating that. If we want to maintain some arbitrary growth number we need to do that, however nothing says we need to do that beyond the giant welfare state that Democats have built up in the form of Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, etc. As a conservative I certainly don't believe it's necessary. You state that this is the Hegelian Dialectic, I disagree (and fuck you for reminding me of Phenomenology of Spirit, I hated going through that almost as much as I disliked Kant). The Hegelian Dialectic comes in the form of "here's an argument/problem", "here is a solution", "ok we have a resolution to the problem". Unless you are trying to infer that by forcing someone to start from their frame that Democrats are starting the dialectic with a false argument, I don't see the relation.

[–]theadj1235 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unlike liberals, conservatives don't have a vision for the future. Their game plan is to preserve the status quo whatever it may be, then lose and then declare the loss a victory. The same people who protested gay marriage are currently Cowgirling Milo's dick. Conservatives stop trying after they lose. Liberals don't. In other words conservatives are always within the liberal frame. They dance to liberal music and play by liberal rules, just not as well.

Again I would argue that Christian conservatives that invaded the Republican party have hijacked conservatism to mean keeping the status quo, specifically on various social issues. The Republican party preserves the status quo, conservatives do not. The status quo is often wrong (for example, our current welfare state is wrong to me so arguing to change it would counter your narrative). Conservatives don't stop trying after they lose, they simply try to apply the rules and logic to everything whereas liberals are most certainly not limited by logic. You see that as losing, I see that as being true to ones self. There are a lot that are definitely dancing to the liberal tune right now, which is why the response to any appeal to emotion on social issues should be responded to just like a shit test as that's what it is. You don't take children seriously (look at TV right now, it's fucking insane that people are being led around by 16 year olds that were doing the Tide Pod Challenge last month), you don't take anyone making emotional appeals on such issues serious either.

So what does any of this have to do with Red Pill? A lot actually. The mental illness known as conservatism isn't just a national phenomena. It manifests itself at all levels: individual, family, and organizational. So for example a conservative individual might be an unimaginative dresser. He’ll prohibit his wife from dancing and his teenagers from watching porn instead of creating a compelling counternarative. His company will stupidly and slowly copy it's competition. The Red Pill is a rejection of the system not it's celebration. That's why the Red Pill is Anti Conservative.

I would say the Red Pill is a reaction to the system not being logical, it's not anti conservative. TRP wouldn't exist if liberal insanity on social issues hadn't been injected into our society. People doing what you say - telling others how they can't live - is authoritarianism, not conservatism. This is no different than your slavery and czar example further up. Telling others how to live as if you are in control of their lives is about as anti-conservative as you can get.

[–]Dragon_Garoo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

On your last point: As the economy automates, there is going to be a huge excess of manual labour in the market. It makes no sense to continually increase birth rates or immigration rates just to replace a population that is being largely served and serviced by mechanized labour and robots/AI. The need for constant expansion is a fallacy, an economy can ebb and flow in near equilibrium, without a constant need for new people to replace 'old buggy whip makers'.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

This is an unstructured rant

I quote myself.

Hmm... Opens by identifying natural opposition to TRP. It then suggested a less obvious opposition. It gives examples of how either can be opposition. He then points out why the latter opposition is a problem for others, after which he points out what they are a problem for us. It then revisits the first opposition (progs) and compares the relative danger of the two groups. Finally he prompts a solutions. Yeah, pretty well structured.

The rest of it is pretty pointless, as you are just attacking rhetoric instead of countering the point. So here is your chance.

Unlike liberals, conservatives don't have a vision for the future.

What is their vision for the future?

[–]theadj1235 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Just because you can see a pattern in the weeds doesn't mean it has structure. He bobs and weaves between making emotional arguments and trying to be logical and reference formal dialogue. He has no solution, merely 'throwing conservatives off the train'.

What is their vision for the future?

While I may be straying into No True Scotsman territory, a 'true' conservative vision would be one where people are treated exclusively on their (de)merits without exception. Anyone is free to make their own choices about their lives with as little interference from their government as possible. A person should be taxed fairly and on that which they consume. A person is free to exercise their religion as-is without interference from others, including the government.

Obviously that is a 'pure' vision, it is watered down by human realities. I would say that conservatives in government lacked a true leader for the past 10 years, and it took Donald Trump literally shitting on all of them to get them in some semblance of order. He has a vision that I think is the closest to pure conservatism that we've had for a very long time. It is not by any means perfect or 100% agreeable to anyone but himself, but that's the nature of a Republic and humans in general. Attempting to argue conservatives have no vision right now is rather myopic, try reading some of what the administration is putting out and you'll get a pretty clear picture of what the vision is.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a Libertarian. Conservatism is a reaction to counter-culture movements, thus the name. The latest version of American Conservatism is a direct reaction to 1960s counter-culture, both the branded LBJ Great Society and the unbranded dirty feel good hippies. It saw its political height during the Reagan years.

I do not consider the "Neocon" bullshit (I fucking hate that name for it) as conservatism. In fact, it was quite the opposite.

He has no solution, merely 'throwing conservatives off the train'.

Train? What train?

[–]buddahbusted0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You pretend to be logical, but your ideas on what is "taxed fairly" and "which they consume" are entirely emotional beleifs on your part. There is no rational economic argument you would accept that would disssuade you from your position.

As someone who by birth and natural disposition is as conservative as they come, what made this country great was the progressive taxation of FDR that allowed government revenues the ability to pay for the interstate system.

Libertarian types refuse to see that there is a problem with treating capital and labor as the same. And that the capitalist system is inherently rigged against labor. A trade union is the most red pill thing ever. I respect and admire the titans of industry that mind fuck the country into handing them money. But I'm not one of them. Much better for me if those of us below the top combine forces and make sure that there is some mitigation from the forces of capital (that I don't yet have) accumulate.

Nothing unfair to me that those who beenefit most from society pay the most back. A flat tax is a scam by the rich to rob everyone else.

[–]theadj1231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea I'm not a flat tax/'Fair Tax' (capital letters) person, I also like the progressive income tax system. Having said that, what is 'fair' is entirely subjective anyway. The best you can do is get a significant majority to agree something is fair. I could say the same thing about your positive views on the progressive income tax system, that it's entirely emotional on your part and nothing would dissuade you either.

An example of where there is a lack of taxing based on consumption right now is electric vehicles. The department of transportation is funded by excise taxes on fuel purchases - which an EV doesn't use. So they're not paying the same way others with normal gas/diesel vehicles are paying. Some places are trying to fix that by imposing up front frees and a constant suggestion is mileage based fees.

[–]Xevalous7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

How about you put a quarter in your asshole cuz you just played yourself?

All that talk just to finish your statement like a middle school kid. Shameful.

[–]balloutrageous1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If it makes you feel anybetter, faggylubeoil said these things to me:

I'm incredibly happy because rational debate never changes anyone's mind emotion does.

He's all emotion, no brain, and acts like he wants a rational argument when in reality he just wants to call you a cuck. Very poor debate skills.

I grew The Donald into one of the largest and most active Right wing communities on the internet, by being contentous and not compromising with the other side litteraly the opposite of what your fagsplaining.

He takes responsibility for what The Donald's become like it's a good thing and he's proud of it, yet bashes conservatives?

The guy can't stop his mental gymnastics

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Read my post. Your conservative disapproval only encourages further masterbation.

[–]Xevalous-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Alright buddy have fun with that.

[–]dub1216860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Must have really gotten to you to spend this much time ranting on the internet about it

[–]asapkokeman4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

"At this point a bunch of stoic, logical alfalfas are flipping their shit because I made some bad bad inappropriate jokes" - Nobody is flipping their shit because of your stupid jokes. Nobody gives a shit about you. You continue on with a straw man argument because you assume anyone is actually mad at your jokes, and say that your conservative audience is no better than liberals because they "got mad at you". LOL. Where's your proof that anyone was actually mad? You literally just assumed something that's most likely false and tried to make an argument out of thin air.

"So why are conservatives such losers" - You've never established that they are losers. You've only used one straw man argument.

"Why have conservatives lost on almost every social issue" - There are two things wrong with this statement. 1. You obviously don't understand how the government works. Major social issues are usually resolved by supreme court, not the democratic vs republican parties. To blame conservatives for "losing" certain issues like DOMA or Roe v. Wade is completely unfair because at the end of the day, they literally did all in their power (bringing the issue to supreme court) to protect their belief. Supreme court just had different views. 2. Conservatives have won numerous social issues. The death penalty still has no federal ban. You still don't have to bake a cake for an LGBTQ wedding. You're not forced to carpool to work 2/5 days to avoid pollution. I can go on and on.

"Their most profound ideas are tax cuts and wars" - Because getting the country back on track isn't as complicated as dimwits like you think it is? If you'd read Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, or any book on economics, you'd know that if we cut taxes and decreased government spending, our economy would do better. Newsflash: America has been better than most countries at this, and look at how good our economy is compared to the rest of the world. It's not rocket science. We don't need "new ideas". We need to implement ideas that work.

"Unlike liberals, conservatives don't have a vision for the future" - LOL. This has to be my last comment on this, because i'll be here hours. This couldn't be further from the truth. Conservatives have such vision for the future, that they elected the candidate with the most radical views for change that we've seen in modern political history. A candidate that literally made millions of liberals cry on election night. If conservatives wanted the "same ol' same ol" like you suggest, either jeb bush or Hillary clinton would be president right now. Conservatives aren't sitting back and doing nothing, rather they came out in record numbers to vote for trump.

I'm not a conservative or a liberal, but you simply don't know your stuff. If you're going to post about politics, be informed or gtfo.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -5 points-4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

How does it feel writing all of that and sending it to someone who ran The_Donald and was on television this past election season?

[–]asapkokeman4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Is that supposed to impress me? How does it feel to spout off a bunch of BS, get called out, and resort to an appeal to authority to try to maintain frame?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -5 points-4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

How does it feel not understanding the argument, shifting the goal posts hurr Durr we win no carpoolz and then trying to sell watered down conservatism to someone to the right of you?

[–]asapkokeman7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Where did I not understand the argument? Wasn't the argument that conservatives are pussies? Pretty sure I used logic and fact to show that's not true. Show me where specifically I'm wrong. You're using the fact that most people are uninformed about politics to get upvotes on reddit. I called you out on it and you haven't said anything worthwhile or thought provoking the whole time. Have a good evening

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

he rarely has the capacity to respond and back up his "arguments". just ignore

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

10/10 conservative argument have fun jerking off your based abo trannies. I heard they were natural conservatives.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

who ran The_Donald and was on television this past election season?

haha oh man. that was a good one

[–]barkusmuhl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Conservative values have largely disappeared in favour of our current experiment in nihilism and hedonism. At this point readopting such values that once served as guiding principles to create more fulfilling lives is no longer maintaining the status quo, it IS change. Conservatism is the new counterculture.

[–]Infernir2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Politics is garbage and should be ignored until we can replace the system with something good for everyone. Neither side has ever given a shit about me or my family. Idk why everyone acts like its such a big deal I don't vote or ever give a shit about politics. I have my voice, I'll do what I can to make the world a better place MYSELF If I want the world to be a utopia I'll do everything I can myself and with those will follow me, relying on people who don't give a shit about you or me to fix my problems? Yeah right fuck off, no one has ever helped me before and no one will ever help me no matter who I support or vote for, its all a waste of time pointless brainwashing from society.

Ignore all of politics and focus on yourself. You are your own politics, the man you want to be vs the man you don't want to be. The USA is flawed when it naturally rejects the best leaders for the role of Presidency and turns everyone who would even be slightly good away from ever wanting the job.

I am of course talking about those of us who see the truth of life and the reality of everything, the way things actually are. The world works by money, fame, power. How many people can you make like you? It doesn't matter how you do it, as long as you do it and you're old enough you can run for president and win.

We know the rules of the game well, better than anyone else. We can use the rules people naturally follow religiously against them to gain control if we wanted.

[–]daemon862 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because blaming others for everything, like "foreigners and refugees are so bad", doesn't show someone is strong. It shows they are weak and that's why it's a loser mentality.

[–]Limekill 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

very poor example.

[–]Son0fSun3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

One of the best analysis and commentaries I’ve read in many years.

OP is absolutely right. You don’t win against soyboys, social justice zealots and radical feminists or anyone else for that matter by arguing with them. You win by giving them ideas then telling them they were their own.

Case in point: hijabs and Islamic female clothing wear rules. Feminists call them ‘liberating,’ when they are simply putting women where the Islamic world wants them.

[–]bazingabrickfists4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And that is exactly why conservatism is a train worth riding, to counter the radical left degeneracy. Once the balance of power is corrected then we can sit back a bit.

[–]zyqkvx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You win by giving them ideas then telling them they were their own.

..then show them an enemy who disagrees so they brainwash themselves as they debate.

[–]RedPill_Swinger4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree with this, when I was in my mid 20's I used to oppose conservatives since I was railing hundreds of chicks instead of getting married, but I have been opposing liberals too.

I'm from Europe so maybe the situation here is slightly different but a certain degree of inaccuracy might be tolerated.

The difference between the two is that conservatives want to turn into a slave on a minimum wage, liberals want to turn you into a slave to female imperative and if you're lucky you'll score a 5 with a real vagina.

I've always been a lone wolf, the only way of breaking free of the role society casts upon you is to be socially disobeying.

Now this being said, Milo's been doing a great job trying to dismantle politically correctness there are people in my country with MBA's whose applications get discarded just to hire some extracommunitarian without a valid degree who can't even speak the language for the sake of "diversity", imo that's the main problem to tackle.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't know how good your English instructions is but this post is against both liberals and conservatives and takes a radical perspective. Furthermore if your institution isn't admitting students on merit why would you apply?

[–]RedPill_Swinger5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And indeed I oppose them both, but right now I think dismantling the politically correct narrative is of paramount importance, this doesn't mean that we should follow conservatism but it may be a good trick up our sleeve. Let's be honest TRPer's despite being more educated than the average (or at least this is my perception) tend to speak their minds and women tend to appreciate it. So getting rid of PC is a good thing for one could be fired for cracking the wrong joke in the work place by a BP manager.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

IMO the climax of the politically correct narrative has already died, it was apparent when Trump was elected that the narrative as a movement has lost steam. However this may be more of American thing, as I know Europe is generally even more left-leaning so perhaps it's still happening over there. Granted I live in a "conservative" area, most people I meet are "tired" of PC.

[–]RedPill_Swinger1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hopefully we'll reach that point too.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's great post.

People tend to attach themselves to something, it could be political parties, religion or atheism. I understand you are trying to remove their ego induced imaginary identities but these identities give people sense of fake power.

And standing alone is scary.

What you want to give them?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unbridled fulfilment of will to power

[–]TheGoldenPepe4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Milo isn't who you think he is. I'd suggest watching Squatting Slav.

[–]RedPill_Swinger1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for the tip, I found a YouTube channel are you talking about that one?

[–]TheGoldenPepe2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes

[–]cdhunt62824 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Congrats OP, you wrote the only TRP post I've bothered reading in well over a year. Conservatives are just liberals on a 10 year time delay. The best defense is a good offense, and conservatives/reactionaries aren't capable of it. They can only react to their opponents, never attacking back, never defending themselves.

[–]blackedoutfast4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

great post. LOL at how everyone is getting triggered

[–]Tie5o114 points5 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

At this point a bunch of Stoic logical Alfalfas are flipping their shit because I made some bad bad inappropriate jokes. Those same people swear that liberals and political correctness are the devil. But here they are, mad at me for breaking a speech code that liberals spent decades putting into practice. Think about that for a second. They hate liberals but live their lives by liberal rules. Fucking retarded right? Yea super retarded. That's conservatives.

This point does not add up. It was Republicans who ended slavery, and Republicans who ushered the civil rights movement. Equal rights under the law is an inherently Conservative principal- as opposed to the liberal principal of tweaking rules to benefit whatever perceived group is the 'victim' at the time.

This notion that Conservatives today would be sitting around owning slaves if it were not for 'liberal rules', is simply not one that is going to be accepted by any rational thinking person who visits this sub.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 14 points15 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

There was a political realignment in the 1960-1970s when the New Deal Coalition broke down and all the Klansmen went from voting democrat to voting republican. The Southern Confederacy would definitely prefer the modern republican party to the democrate one.

This party of Lincoln nonsense doesn't fool African Americans or anyone else for that matter.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

It actually occurred earlier, in the 1920s and 30s. Republicans were becoming the party of "Big Business" and alienating urban workers, while the Democrats created the New Deal Coalition to scoop up those voters.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

alienating urban workers

Yes, but most of them are natural enemies any way.

Big Business

The vast majority of big business leaders are hard-core elitist and overtly promote the left. They want a big government funding a big, dumb population that have a never ending teet to suck money therefrom. For ever Koch, I'll find you a half-dozen Zuckerbergs.

[–]1by1is31 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

The vast majority of big business leaders are hard-core elitist and overtly promote the left.

This a lie that the serfs believe, most people with net worth in several millions, vehemently support right wing governments, because those governments give them tax cuts. They might pretend (or even be) socially liberal but nobody at that level of wealth is voting for leftists, I assure you, unless they directly and demonstrably profit from it.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

That's hardly the elite. Not even close.

[–]1by1is31 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

That's top 1%, and even in polls the top 1% identify more with the right wing than the left wing when compared to the general population. Billionaires are not going to be voting for Bernie no matter what.

Most people vote for their own interests and what matters to them the most, and the wealthy are no different. It's just happenstance that the wealthy vote for right wing because they are more concerned about paying millions of dollars in taxes, while the serfs vote for the right wing to stop immigrants from competing with them and taking 'their jobs', or to hold on to some form of group identity because that's what they value more than money.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Well, I said elite, but ok. 1%. The San Francisco Bay Area where if you can afford to buy a middle class house in a decent neighborhood, you are squarely in the 1%. The vast majority of them vote for the left.

[–]1by1is30 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

You mean they are paying cash for the house or they are mortgaging? We are talking net worth here. People with several millions of dollars in net worth that are ''the elite''. This is not my definition, this is how pretty much everyone defines the ''elite''. Unless you believe in conspiracy cabals of illuminati and jewish bankers and some lame shit like that.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

There is a huge difference between having a couple million bucks and billions. Huge. A couple million wouldn't even sustain a middle class lifestyle in a decent area in the Bay Area without income. There is a difference between the family that has a couple BMWs and a 2000sqft house and the guy that has a collection of Italian super cars at his 20,000sqft estate.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

In the modern era sure. The 1920s saw industrialization, "Big Business" was new back then. And sure urban workers are currently the natural enemy of the GOP but previous to 1920 the Republican party was the "liberal" party and the Democrats were "conservative". The business elite you refer to, from what I know of history, didn't become overtly left until the 1960s+ when TV/radio prevalence allowed "big business" to market to your kids securing themselves lifelong clients.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

didn't become overtly left

Ironically, most of them gave away vast portions of their wealth when they died to charitable causes.

Anyway, big business swerved left-ish as a reaction to the New Deal. When someone puts out a free trough, you are going to mosey your ponies up to it. There is no denying that some of these guys toyed with supporting fascism, but that got put to rest for good by the mid-30s.

Yes, the 60s did forge materialism which then ignited rampant consumption, but business itself was all to happy too let their big friends in Washington give them a helping hand, be it free shit, big contracts or favorable financial positions on the global market thanks to the Fed's new found position of power therein.

[–]chaseemall1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey, if I wanted to keep the coloreds in check, I'd destroy their families and create a welfare state so all they gotta do is twerk on insta and buy my drank. Don't assume the Democrats have changed. They just got creative.

[–]Tie5o112 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Right, so .01% of the population re-aligned, and that means that all modern Conservatives would be sipping whiskey watching slaves tend to the fields.

GLO- I sincerely enjoy your writing, I am a fan. But this was a ridiculous insinuation. Its left wing identity politics in a different wrapper...

[–]BornShook0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Democrats could be considered the modern day party of racism in my perspective. They have whackjob SJW's on the forefront to hide the fact, but probably a good percentage of dems are closet racists. Have you ever talked to any non sjw liberals? They will immeadiatly avoid any convo about race. They seem as though they don't want to offend anyone by accidentally slipping their actual opinions. I don't think one party is more "racist" than the other I just believe that there is very little true racism at all anymore.

[–]disposable_pants0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What the hell does this post have to do with "Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men"? Not a fucking lot, that's for sure. Get this political shit -- which isn't even thoughtful political shit -- off the sub.

AltRight I'll tell you bro. If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

So your argument is that conservatives didn't fight hard enough to support slavery and genocide? And you think this is going to convince people to support a related political movement? That's just disconnected from reality in all sorts of ways.

Conservatives don't lose because of any inherent flaw in their mentality. They lose because they pick stupid-ass hills to die on, like issues that result in massive amounts of human suffering. Those issues are easy to attack and get tougher to defend as time goes on and the discussion about them comes to the forefront. Want to win? Don't let your side waste valuable political capital supporting losing causes like slavery, genocide, or (today) the drug war.

[–]Kafkaevsky2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are absolutely correct. I may agree with conservatives but I can just see why they loose. They have never known how to get the upper hand when dealing with liberals.

[–]iwasbornred1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fiscal conservatism is a good thing. It means less taxes on productive members of society.

Social conservatism just makes you really easy to make fun of.

[–]Reaper55551 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow I think my eyes started bleeding this post was so aweful. After I finally finished I concluded that the writer finally cried himself to sleep. This is a shitpost that even under liberal standards wouldn't even pass. Get off my feed

[–]Gargantuar011 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is why the alt-right is the best candidate to rival the progressives, unlike conservatives which want to preserve and slow down the leftist hell train, the alt-right offers an alternative (white ethnostate, total free-speech etc.). The alt-right also acknowledged uncomfortable truths that progressives and conservatives didn't (race realism, difference between woman and men ect.). That is why we have only 2 possible outcomes for western countries: multicultural leftist countries or white ethnostates. You choose which one you want the most.

[–]1Captain_Save_A_Hoe_-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem with the US republican party is that they regress towards the "left" every decade or so. This election cycle they said gays like Milo are their base voters. Soon it will be pedos. Thats all cool and nice but it demoralizes the country and steals the symbolic significance of the presidency.

Here's a picture of trump waving the LGBT flag

[–]colovick2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the best posts I've read by you. Thank you for this incredible spin piece. I might have to catch up on a few years worth of this is what your content has turned into

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, that purplepilldebate post is gold! You need to post it here. It's hardly trolling, in fact.

[–]mrjackoldman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The enemy of my enemy is a friend, till the common enemy is destroyed. Things change after that.

Enough said.

[–]Fearofthedark880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are we talking about economic outcomes based off political ideology, or the fact that politicians lie? The latter goes without saying.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I'm done being cucked by liberals I'd like a new cucker dor the next 4 years

[–]Vincents_keyboard0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–]tippr0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Vincents_keyboard0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]modTheRedPike1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Heh, you are too kind. In the future, I'll probably clear out the tippr replies, just to keep it clean, but of course I wouldn't touch the giver post. Any problem with that? (Honest question)

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Whenever I send a tip to someone I'll maybe just write a little note at the bottom so they can find the information later.

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[–]MGTOWMODSSUCK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Quality post.

[–]BrianSingerPoolparty0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Liberals have the creativity to say: 7 year old Transgenders? Sounds good let's make that happen.

Are you trying to create that mythical army to fight Leonidas and the Spartans ?? hahahahahaa

[–]boxrlvr0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You just don’t know my level of motivation. 💪😂 Show your work. I didn’t think too deep on it. Seeing the numbers should be interesting. If it works out to be possible you should keep it under wraps. These politicians may get behind it and I’m really not in a secure place financially. Another sin tax could wipe me out.

[–]2Dmva1000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

'Believe all women' and 'put your faith in Jesus and obey God'

Same dumbass shit.

[–]waldo8880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This whole article is by a guy who mixed up the definitions of conservative as an adjective and conservative as a noun...impressively obtuse.

[–]CryptofCthulhu0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Was banned from The_Donald reddit for not kissing Reverend Graham's ass.

Poor poor snowflakes.

[–]ROLLTIDE4EVER0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I never understood how supporting wars is conservative. Robert Taft is rolling in his grave.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The politics of war change with time. You think it was the conservatives screaming to enter WW2? No the conservatives were the ones passing euthanasia laws and supporting Hitler. Politics comes and goes but war, war never changes.

[–]ROLLTIDE4EVER0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought it was progressives that supported those policies. WEB Dubois even complement HItler....smh. Conservatives to me are Old Right.

[–]balloutrageous0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

What are you trying to do here? Alienate conservatives instead of garnering their support?

Wouldn't you rather change their minds instead of bashing them?

If your only purpose here is to enable a circle jerk, great job, but if you're trying to change minds then this is not the way to do it.

Do you approach people with criticism by being a dick or with empathy and respect?

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Garnering their support for what exactly?

TRP is not a movement. TRP is not soliciting funds. TRP is not starting an organization. TRP is not recruiting.

TRP is telling you stuff to help you not wind up as someone else's tool.

Looks like we failed you.

[–]balloutrageous0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Garnering their support for whatever the fuck you want.

In this case, OP could have been more agreeable when bringing up the fact that TRP is NOT about conservative politics. Maybe he could have made a few asshole conservatives think before commenting.

From what I can tell TRP is full of emotional toilet babies that need support from completely irrational morons like this guy:

I'm incredibly happy because rational debate never changes anyone's mind emotion does

The guy isn't even trying to have a rational discussion. Just an emotional lefty who wants his bottle.

If anyone's a tool, it's you and gaylube for buying this emotional shit instead of having your own well thought out opinions.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

OP could have been more agreeable

The human mind doesn't work the way you think it works.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Appeal to people by repeatedly conceding? Sounds like a losing cuckservative strategy. Guess someone left the Cuck shack door open and you wandered out.

[–]balloutrageous0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Trying to open a dialogue with the other side without being a contentious twat definitely sounds like a better strategy than yours

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I grew The Donald into one of the largest and most active Right wing communities on the internet, by being contentous and not compromising with the other side litteraly the opposite of what your fagsplaining.

You and your conservative Jeb friends have no fucking clue what a winning strategy even looks like. So perhaps you should keep your mouth shut and if that's not an option you can choke on my Russian dick.

[–]balloutrageous0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Lol look at Einstein playing 64D chess

Are you happy with what the donald is? Because it sounds like you're very proud of your accomplishment.

Quit the mental gymnastics.

Acting like a fucking drag queen instead of manning up and accepting that there's a chance you could be wrong

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm incredibly happy because rational debate never changes anyone's mind emotion does. That's why the Donald served it's purpose and was written about the media. R Conservative is a Cuck shack that no one cares about.

Feel free to disprove my point instead.

[–]balloutrageous0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why try to have a rational debate with an emotional baby like you

[–]RedPillHanSolo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Red Pill is a rejection of the system not it's celebration

B-b-but redpill is for smashing womyn!!!11 Take your intellectual bullshit elsewhere!111 /s

I'm wondering how many people are getting they way of thinking with templates and stereotypes fucked up by GLOs posts.

[–]Whitified0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Liberals want the bus to fall down a cliff. Conservatives want the bus to go over the cliff slowly

Still don't know what I can do though. Sorry

[–]BlackCraneStoic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stoic logical Alfalfas are flipping their shit

I take offense to that. Great post!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's just the ebb and flow of power. 250 years ago, liberals were the boring ones, conservatives got to run around being disruptive pricks, dumping tea and rioting. Give it another couples centuries and we'll be right back where we started

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you trying to say that the American Rebels who wanted Democracy were the Conservatives, and that the British Monarchy was Liberal?

Is Democracy more Conservative than Monarchy?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If we're defining conservatism as limited government, then yes. The colonists rebelled because of unfair taxes by Parliament, not because they didn't want a king. Read the American and French revolutions compared by Friedrich von gentz, the best translation is by John Quincy Adams

[–]RPStone 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Abortion is one thing I'll never understand about conservatives. If liberals want to kill their kids, who'll likely become future liberal voters, why stop them?

[–]1Revo_Luzione1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

If someone's beliefs and/or genes lead them to want to remove their genes from the gene pool, why would anyone want to stop them? It's like self-deportation, but from the gene pool instead of from the country.

[–]everyone_wins3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Liberals want to be replaced by brown and black people from developing nations. They are suicidal.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It is far from a unifying issue, which is why most GOP executives danced around it as much as possible. The only reason it gets so much airplay is the left uses it as a wedge issue and there is a small but stalwart republican voting block that thinks it is the apex issue. The party gives the latter a pellet from time to time just to shut them up and keep voting, but notice it hasn't changed the law much.

[–]RPStone 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Abortion should be unified issue. It has many benefits to the GOP:

Is that small republican voting block really worth it?

[–]Rian_Stone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It usurp female power, so it won't ever be illegal.

Whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant.

[–]fromthecrypt80 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

What’s the difference between gay lube oil and regular lube oil?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Glitter

[–]Self-honest0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If conservatives weren't such losers you would be in Georgia right now sipping a mint julep watching your crop get harvested. I would be in Russia whipping my Serfs. Both of us would have abundant German soap.

Funny because it's true.

conservatives are dimwitted and unimaginative.

Liberals have the creativity to say: 7 year old Transgenders? Sounds good let's make that happen.

LOL. And...

That's the perfect reason to split a country into liberals and conservatives. Imaginative retards leading the charge on one side, unimaginative retards leading the charge on the other. Everybody loses.

Conservatives stop trying after they lose. Liberals don't. In other words conservatives are always within the liberal frame.

Great point.

Liberals know this and call it the Hegelian Dialectic. Conservatives don't.

A tactic we should all learn to use.

The Red Pill is a rejection of the system not it's celebration. That's why the Red Pill is Anti Conservative.

And it's hilarious that liberals don't absolutely love TRP. To be conservative or progressive, the system is that reference point. TRP is the unplugging from the system. It's literally the most "progressive" thing you can do.

Think of the progressive agenda as a masterbating homeless man on the subway.

Go on...

All groups make the hobo's masterbation more enjoyable. The radical solution aka the Red Pill solution, is to spray the subway car with a fire extinguisher and steal the hobo’s attention.

Fucking right. Perfect metaphor.

Last night I told this girl she was way too reactionary. She said, if she is reactionary, then I am the exact opposite. She looked it up.

Reactionary definition: Conservative.

Reactionary antonyms: Liberal, progressive, radical, open-minded.

She's right.

A Red Pill solution is any solution that wrestles control of the narrative.

If the conservatives are too liberal, then I would say the liberals are too conservative. If conservatives (lower down the chain), are always in the liberal frame; then liberals (conservative in comparison to TRP) and conservatives will always be in the Red Pill frame.

Not to mention that we're talking about actual reality versus whatever world they all think they live in.

Edit: added personal anecdote

[–]Rabbit-Punch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t believe that you actually know what liberals are conservatives are, but I will keep quiet so you guys can continue LARPing

[–]Toussant0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

There's an understanding in politics: Young and not liberal, no heart. Old and not conservative, no brain.

The liberal platform is of socialist decay.

Libertarian is the way to go.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Libertarianism is the way to go untill hoards of people March across your border and turn your small town into Dirka Dirka IED Knife land.

[–]Toussant1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

You are describing the liberal sanctuary city open borders bs. That's not libertarian. If in a swing state, you'd be better off voting conservative.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't know if you know this but I ran the Donald and called a famous television personality a whore last election cycle.

[–]Toussant0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

"ran the Donald" what does this mean?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The_Donald

[–]Toussant0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not sure why you deleted your other reply but you just expressed disgust at a core liberal position that props their votes (as you should) and took the conservative view. What's really going on with this post?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A critique of conservativism from the European far right

[–]Patzer14700 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There seems to be a lot of people missing the point here. Your post was not only very clear, but also very well put.

I was hoping as I began reading that you would arrive at the point you did. Namely, that conservatism these days is not effectively "conserving" anything worth conservation. In an ever-increasingly liberal America/West, I have zero desire to "conserve" anything. And this was wonderfully highlighted by you--conservatives lose because, at the end of the day, they have no ideology. Next time you have the chance to talk to a conservative politician or friend, ask him: What is it exactly you are trying to conserve? If he can't answer that, he's a perfect representation of how lost this dying movement really is.

[–]Wolfgang985 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

It's extremely refreshing to read this following the cycle of pathetic, crybaby Trump spamming that took place during the last election on this sub.

Telling posters they're beta males for refusing to support a guy who has daily Twitter meltdowns is the epitome of delusion. Further, our First Lady routinely throws shade on this man on international fucking television.

Oh, and let's not forget the embarrassing physical condition of our president. He's fat, wears a toupee, fake tans and is inarticulate. Talk about insecurities.

What seems to be a reoccurring theme among belligerent White, male conservatives is a crazed furor stemming from hurt feelings. These guys simply cannot move past the reality that some men have are naturally better and different. Some are more attractive, get laid easier, communicate well and most importantly aren't white and Christian.

Instead of focusing on their own self-improvement, they scapegoat their failures.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Trump was a tool used for the furtherance of shifting the Anglo culture to the right. Who he is as a person the Red Pill doesn't give a fuck.

[–]Run_Che0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Liberals - conservatives.

Vaccine - Antivaccine

Religious - Atheist

I feel people divide opinions and edge closer to opposite sides of the spectrum just to be further away from the people they are disagreeing, and only accomplishing going more and more full retard while doing so.

Usually both sides have good and bad parts, balance is key.

Except for flat earthers. Fuck em.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here is the main thing: the Democrats haven’t won the majority of the white vote since the 1950s. America is a predominantly white nation. The dems realized this was happening and started importing non-white voters from other countries. This is the only reason they win elections now.

Democrats still can’t win on big social issues at the ballot box, because they don’t have winning positions on things like gay marriage, immigration, or abortion. Gay marriage? Decided by the courts. Abortion? Decided by the courts. Read those decisions: they ignore the constitution and make a mockery of it.

Conservatives have all the smartest people on their side: Dana Loesch, Mark Levin, Tucker Carlson, Dinesh D’Souza, Matt Walsh, Mark Steyn, Stephen Crowder, and so on. Who does the left have?

Trump just won 30 of 50 states. He ran on a pro-life, politically incorrect message and acted like how conservatives used to act before the neo-cons took over in the early 1990s. Trump will also win in 2020.

If immigration can be curbed, conservatives are the future of the west and their only hope.

[–]615bachelor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Black panther isn't segregation propaganda. You're silly for thinking that. It's just a movie.

[–]syn1us-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I like to see TRP as a movement of traditionalists who have realized that our civilization is too fucked to be fixed and who have chosen to follow the path of self-improvement in order to keep standing amid the ruins.

[–]Trvspkt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes

[–]fenagel-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol this post was gay as fuck basically saying it’s a good thing a kid that’s 7 years old (who keep in mind are COMPLETELY influenced by others and the outside world NOT there own thoughts and feelings) is “open minded enough” to changing its gender because it’s against the status quo.

[–]gay_chickenz-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a pretty pointless post. Conservatives fail because they focus on retarded social issues. BAN THE GAYS. StOP THE TRANSGENDERS FROM THE BATHROOMS. STOP WITH THE DEVILS LETTUCE.

They’re practically caricaturizing themselves. They could easily maintain power by focusing on immigration, welfare reform, and undoing the federal bureaucracy. But they don’t. So they’ll lose in 2018.

[–]Redsqa-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unlike liberals, conservatives don't have a vision for the future. Their game plan is to preserve the status quo whatever it may be

Hence their name?

[–]zyqkvx-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Currently this post has 87 points and 60% upvote. Very controversial. We can crudely infer that about 40% of the forum are conservatives, if I'm not somehow mistaken.

edit: I took the time to average all the faces of down voters together

[–]bumbuff-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Your post assumes conservative means traditionalist.

I'm conservative because I am cautious with change and progress, I don't reject it.

I guess it depends on perspective. I might be a true centrist, I don't know, but I don't jump off of a bridge because someone thinks it'll solve current racial issues in localized areas.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually it assumes the opposite. A traditionalist would never accept gay marriage ever.

[–]caliboo2 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Hey dumbshit, the KKK was originally a Democratic Party initiative.

One lie you’ll eventually hear is that “the parties flipped”, and it’s completely untrue.

The Democratic Party and all they represent can be summed up in one sentence:

“You work, I eat.”

It’s so prolific that it was actually stated by Republican President Abraham fucking Lincoln:

'You work and toil and earn bread, and I'll eat it.' No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation and live by the fruit of their labor, or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race, it is the same tyrannical principle.

They did it with slavery, they do it with welfare, they do it with unchecked mass immigration.

Communistic, SJW principals are deeply embedded in this theology.

One who considers a conservative a loser is the same one who doesn’t see the point in planting seeds, making plans, lifting, or anything else that requires long term effort.

You’re always hit and miss with your theories GLO, but go on, be a Democrat, be an SJW. Get your instant gratification, get fat, be a loser and generate. And get the fuck out with your stupid fucking idiocy.

[–]Regs2-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You need to read about the history of democrats-republicans in the US so as not to further embarrass yourself. Here's a good start:

http://factmyth.com/factoids/democrats-and-republicans-switched-platforms/

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good post

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting post. As a Christian and a conservative - scratch that, libertarian, I have seen much of what you describe over the years. 25 years ago in law school I battled the leftist SJWs. Believe it or not, even back then they were in complete control of the discourse. During a debate over comparable worth(women make 70 cents on the dollar versus men), I was the only person who even had the balls to take other side. My "conservative" debate partner chickened out. I nevertheless proceeded to prove all alone before an audience of ranting feminist and mangina lunatics that their arguments were all lies. Practically got stoned for that one.

Later fell in with some MRAs due to my outrage over the daily violation of men's right in the family court system. But these guys were also a bunch of pathetic cowards. All they ever did was beg for crumbs and grovel at the feet of the feminists.

Don't even get me started on the churches. Talk about a bunch of cucks! So yeah, I feel ya bro, where you're comin' from. Thanks to redpill for educating me about women and getting me into the gym everyday. As my father always used to tell me "talk is cheap".

[–]1TheLegionnaire00-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The american "conservatives" are just as bad as their liberals. Instead I like the polish conservatives, those guys have balls. (PS: I'm not polish but also from Eastern Europe).

[–]xXxOrcaxXx-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The Red Pill is the rejection of the system? I got the idea that TRP is embracing the system, but let me elaborate first before getting out the pitchforks. Liberals, or rather the extreme left which governs the daily news nowadays, is hellbent on eliminating every and any responsibility women and any other "suppressed minority" have by tailoring all the rights to them.

Don't like the look that one dude gave you? Call mental rape and drag him in front of something like the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario (You can watch some videos of Jordan Peterson and what he has to say about it if you don't know what shitshow that is)

Unsatisfied with your husband? Just let the marriage break apart and get everything while he gets nothing.

Women nowadays, at least the women TRP is concerned with, have no sense of responsibility. That is why AWALT is a thing. Women cannot resist their inner animal in the search of best dick, that is what TRP tells us. I personally believe that, rather than being unable to resist their inner animal, women have not learned to take responsibility for their inner animal and their actions. That is why we live in the shitshow we are in, but it does also explain why there are some women, those who, for whatever reason, take responsibility for themselves and their actions, can have meaningful relationships.

TRP accepts that fact and embraces it. TRP guidelines can be broken down to this statement: "Women don't take responsibility for themselves, so we won't take responsibility either."

Plating, appealing to the inner animal of the woman, always escalating, not giving a shit if she's in a relationship, never allowing oneself to get nailed down by a woman, jumping ship when you are bored and never ever getting dragged into a long-term relationship are all irresponsible things to do... but effective.

And that is the point. Among other ideologies, such as the Mens Rights Movement, MGTOW and Jordan Peterson preaching taking up responsibility, TRP is an answer to how to deal with the current dilemma. But its answer is to embrace the system, not to reject it. TRP rejects the role the system wants men to be in, but it very much takes advantage of the system. If you want to see what rejection of the system looks like, listen to Jordan Peterson.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The red Pill is the rejection of the system? I got the idea that TRP is embracing the system

It is understanding the system exists and is the operating mode for the world around us, but we personally reject participating in it the way they want us to participate.

Make more sense this way?

[–]xXxOrcaxXx-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That does make more sense and goes along the lines of what I concluded at the end of my statement as well. Thanks for the clarification.

[–]pimpineggs 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I think you meant modern liberalism and progressivism has cucked the USA not conservatism.

Downvoted.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They cucked it and conservativism watched

[–]evoblade-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This really puts so many of my thoughts into a succinct package that I couldn’t articulate, that I I don’t know where to start.

[–]UbermenschVII-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for this analysis and examples as to how societal progression (or in our case, regression) takes place. I've always wanted to do something with my life that builds a sound foundation for those that come after me so that we can achieve unimaginable dreams, yet being a young, white, straight male it seems like the whole world is against me since I don't fit into the narrative. I still don't understand how Marxism/Liberalism has hijacked history and is now able to lead us down a path to ruin. I want to become someone who is not afraid to challenge the illogical and immoral path that we seem to be taking but it seems like there is little opportunity. Like you said about idealogue conservatives who have conceded on every point and still dance to the tune of the liberal agenda... I don't want to live my life for me and die in 60 years without at least trying to cure the Brain-AIDS that is infecting our society. I don't know how to do it, and part of me doesn't think it's possible considering that the progressive left owns the media, language and minds of Americans willing to destroy what our ancestors worked so incredibly hard to achieve.

[–]1Metalageddon-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I dunno Glo. I enjoy most of your content but this one, not really that thought provoking.

I'm pretty certain the major issue is hyper dogma, any extreme taken to the point of damaging function. Extreme Conservatives are mal-adaptive. Extreme Liberals praise random chaos even in their own engines.

Both are toxic fools, but even a toxic fool can get something right once in a while.

I think I'll stick in my pool, sexual strategy and self improvement. Trp is excellent for both, not politics.

[–]insanestratt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. Get back to what it used to be. This is garbage in my opinion. I've read some great things from this guy but this kind of junk is beginning to make me think this place is changing. Especially coming from a senior contributor.

[–]PM_ME_UR_NIPS_GURL-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I can appreciate another viewpoint. But as fun as it is bashing both sides, it really isn't useful to vilify/condemn them and then to stop people from learning from them. Both have valid perspectives and both are crucial to building society. Just as men and women are fundamentally different, they still compliment each other to build a family - the foundation of society. So too applies to left and right wing ideologies. This is the yin and yang of life, and everything. There needs to be balance - excess in one without the other is detrimental.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is helpful to condemn them because they always lose. The Pinochets of the world have a vision of a world with free helicopter rides and have the drive to follow through with that vision.

[–]Luckyluke23-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

what you forget in today identity politics are is. if you are FOR something, then that means your against it.

half the time it's not true.

[–]H_Finner-1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Letting a 7-year old decide what gender they are is creative??? Sounds like brainwashing to me, where they are raised to be "whatever they want" and in the future, confused about their sex/gender.

Conservatives don't try to take away the right to have abortions, they take away the right to murder. Isn't that looking towards the future?

I also feel like this is a rant that lost its rails after the first sentence. Geez

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Transgendering a 7 year old is incredibly creative and getting other people to do it is even more creative. Conservatives lack that kind of vision.

[–]H_Finner-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

PLEASE explain how it is creative to do that not just to an adult, but a CHILD, who doesn't know any better. The suicide rate for any transgender is 41%, it should honestly be classified as a mental illness.

Ok, let's say you raise two different kids; one lives a normal life as a guy until he is 21, obviously old enough to make his own decisions, and the other was raised to be 'whoever they want to be' and is now 21 and completely confused between what is natural and abnormal because his parents couldn't bear the weight of telling him he was a boy all along.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's very creative. It's never been done before. I never said good. I said creative. Pouring goat urine into your convertible is also creative. Even if you don't like it.

[–]H_Finner0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

So I could say bombing the entire subway system in New York is creative? It's never been done before right? I just don't understand how it can be 'creative' to confuse a growing human being on what is natural and unnatural. Thanks

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I would say so especially if it's done on a creative way not that boring fertilizer bullshit

[–]H_Finner-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Please get your facts straight next time you post and don't make the thread about what you make up in your mind about 'evil' conservatives.

Political knowledge is key, otherwise you really don't know how to serve your own interests.

[–]chaseemall0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

You're thinking like a sane, moral person. Think like a highly goal directed macchiavellian instead. If you want to destroy hierarchy, what better way than by destroying the categories of male-female by transgendering a 7-year old?

[–]H_Finner0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

But why screw up the kids' mind like that? What kind of confused future would we leave them? No one would know what to call each other, everyone would be 'sensitive' because it wouldn't be 'right' to assume someone's gender by what they look or sound like.

[–]chaseemall0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. You warp the people's minds so they have to increasingly rely on your (leftist) institutions so as to not be bigots and know how to conduct themselves with one another. All traditional, community formed rules of morality are thereby superceded by the media and the university. The university now decides morality. The university now decides reality.

[–]beAn0n-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You are grossly confused about conservative and progressive politics. Conservatives stick to the society controlling factor of religion and religious based morals. Progressives stick to government given rights and moral based on evolution. It is why when liberals talk about 7 year old trans children, conservatives are... you guessed it... CONSERVATIVE to traditional ideas. You’re a fucking dim wit.

Also conservatives embrace individualism which is TRP epitome.

[–]chaseemall0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Individualism is a lie used by those who wish to distract us from any kind of greatness, in order to hide their own mediocrity. What you're after is individual greatness.

[–]beAn0n-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow. You’ve added nothing. The point was to show that TRP does not teach acceptance theory as found in most communal practices and policies. TRP is most definitely in-line with the right.

[–]chaseemall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The point was to show that TRP does not teach acceptance theory as found in most communal practices and policies.

Dafuq is this? If you take away one thing from this place, take away the fact that unconditional acceptance from anyone other than your mother is a lie. Communal acceptance is a lie. You are accepted for meeting a standard of masculine behavior, and having a certain usefulness. And you'd only want to be accepted by a community if that community had some benefit for you, such as security, allies, business partnerships, etc.

TRP is most definitely in line with the right.

Absolutely. The fact that we uphold standards of fitness, social conduct, and competency makes us right wing. The fact that we uphold hierarchy, both inter- and intra-sexually, makes us right of all major political parties.

The issue that GLO is pointing out is that "conservatives," such as the "marry those sluts" tradcons, are useless whiners, who as so terrified of being called bigots that they lose all efficacy and compromise all principle.

EDIT: Seriously, read the linked article. It's long, but it takes you out of the individualism-collectivism trap that so much of the common discourse falls into. You end up in a new, mediocrity-greatness paradigm which is far more meaningful, and also far more predictive of the actual consequences of political discourse.

[–]Saza_King-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought this was a sexual strategy sub

[–]xtsv-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck me, write a novel next time.

[–]jerseyboyc137 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Man you really sold out to postmodernism. Just because one group is "winning" or "moving forward" a meta-narrative doesn't mean that they are right or correct. You're literally generalizing roughly half the population of America and accusing them of being losers simply because they don't share your brand of politics. Your collectivist view of the world is toxic and has no place in a subreddit that is dedicated to improving the individual.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

This subreddit is using collective means to improve the individual and from that logic alone isn't the most individualistic organization.

[–]jerseyboyc137 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Collectivism is the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it. There is no such cultish attitude in TRP. I don't sacrifice my own well being for the sake of TRP. Quite the contrary, the thoughts of this group are meant to encourage and build up the individual. You want to bring up logic? What you did is generalize the population into only one of two camps, which is absolutely ignorant if you actually understand the complexities of politics. You're removing any sense of individuality of human beings because you don't like the idea that there are good and smart people that disagree with you. I'm sorry, but I never got the memo that my politics needed to align with yours. You just came off as an arrogant bigot.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

There definitely is a cultish attitude at TRP and the Endorsed Contributors team jokes about it during our Cult meetings. If you get endorsed we'll get you a satin robe.

The Red Pill is about getting you the individual to strive for the identity of Alpha which is loosly definined but collectively constructed.

There are other positions besides liberal and conservative like Far Right Reactionary, Islamic fundamentalist etc.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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