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Building PowerCritical thinking is perhaps one of the most important skills a man can develop. Your mind has not adapted much over the past 1000 years, and many of its tricks are destructive in our present environment. Here are 4 Cognitive Biases you should be well aware of. (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]Ketogainsmongoose 1 points1 points [recovered]

An issue I've seen with posts lately is individuals attempting to have another man do their thinking for them.

Be wary of any man who attempts to tell you what to think.

Fortunately,

[–]lopsidedlucky 38 points39 points  (2 children)

This is often overlooked. Many men and women easily follow along with people that are telling them what to think.

I'm constantly astonished when I see it happen in front of me the people that follow have no idea there is an agenda behind what they're being told, often times one not favorable to them.

[–]FatStig 1 points1 points [recovered]

Basically all of news media.

[–]Andgelyo 13 points14 points  (2 children)

+1, herd mentality. I see a lot of it in askTRP. As men, we need to be able to think and make our own decisions. Women and children will be looking to us for guidance. Critical thinking is absolutely a vital skill for us.

[–]Wolverines_MAGA 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Even more so in todays mind fuck of the MSM. Kids are being brainwashed to not think for themselves from education systems, teachers and news networks with their own agendas. Watch a piece from Louder with Crowder where he asks people to change his mind on gun control and gender, these kids are clearly brainwashed. Its sad... these are the kids of our future. We as men need to help as many young men as we can and have them do the same.

[–]Andgelyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meh, don’t have kids yet and I’m still in my (late) 20s. To be honest I don’t give a fuck about kids, if they ain’t mine or apart of my family. I’m more concerned about raising my own kid to be an alpha motherfucker among a sea of estrogen filled men and pink haired dominating females. The youth of today are obviously fucked beyond repair.

[–]Ezaar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not every man can have the thought in the same detail. But thought must occur for every man.

You can expand upon it, but that also leads men astray.

[–]mummersfarce_is_done 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I don't know if you are aware but you did the exact same thing, telling us how to think. I acknowledge your agenda.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Even if you agree, never take what anyone has to say as 100% truth. Always question.

[–]Joehogans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one has all the answers. You just have to reason inside yourself what rings most true to your current understandings of reality.

[–]2Joeycrackem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Appreciate it brother.

[–]TheMasterChiefs 44 points45 points  (8 children)

I always set 11pm the night before in my calendar for my 30d free trials and make sure to cancel that shit. It's only good to me unless it's free. Yes, I'm a serial freeloader... bc I'm broke as shit.

[–]Guthix4Days 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Most 30-day free trials will immediately start the paid subscription without asking for your permission after the one month period expires (e.g. Google music).

[–]2Joeycrackem 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Bro you are cold blooded. Nah, i feel ya. Just make sure you pay for things once you get money. There is a psychological benefit to this, you become more invested and are more likely to take it seriously when you pay.

[–]JE_12 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Do you use different credit card information or does it work with the same every single time? Or do you simply never go back to the same service?

[–]TheMasterChiefs 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If it's Netflix, you need to use different credit cards. I only have 2, so I got 60d out of it consecutively. Now I share (aka freeload) with my richer, more successful friends.

For Google Music and Spotify, they will often advertise promos for 3mo, so I believe you can use the same card so long as it doesn't specify "for new users only." To tell you the truth, I have a hacked Spotify app that basically gives me premium for free. For magazines and news journals like the WSJ, they will have 90d for $1. You can use the same card because you're just paying the promo deal.

[–]snop779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God I have such a hatred for Spotify. Among lots of other reasons, their "free" mobile app is downright disrespectful. They make you shuffle albums! I won't ever support a company so fucking greedy. I'm really into exploring music and I just download the albums to my phone or use YouTube on background and make my own playlists. Fuck Spotify, its made for basic bitches anyways

[–]2Dmva100 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Another thing to pay attention to with subscriptions to magazines etc. Is after you've had it for a while, they start sending you the big alerts 'Almost Expired! Renew Today' almost 1 month in advance in hopes you'll renew, and they keep doing this month/year after year until you've ended up paying a whole period early out of fear.

Same goes with flu shots. They cut back or extend the 'season' nearly every year. The cucks who get flu shots every year have eventually gotten it twice in a 12 month period without realizing it.

Vitamins is another big one that relies on the loss factor. The most important sale a GNC fag can make is your first purchase of a bottle of B12, creatine, etc. Because once you take your last pill, you tend to think 'oh shit I gotta get more' whether it works or not.

Consumerist traps!

[–]Zekohl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Do you know how influenza vaccination works?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/flushot.htm

This isn't comparable to other vaccinations, if you need to get a flu shot, you need to get it every flu season. While there are a lot of people who don't need them, its useless to get them every other year if you do.

Also, it's a vaccination not an audible subscription, where does consumerism come into play?

[–]3d_truth 37 points38 points  (4 children)

Social proof is a huge one. The average human is not smart. If you wanted a recommendation for the most popular restaurant and music you would be listening to Justin Beiber at Macdonalds. Reminds me of that quote, forgot who, I think it was Dumbledore or Einstein or someone

When you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to seriously consider your position.

[–]Amarke 26 points27 points  (3 children)

To add on your answer, the quote is Mark Twain's. Originally it says:

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform (or pause and reflect).

EDIT: And it reminds me of the incredibly related:

"Everything popular is wrong."

-Oscar Wilde.

[–]no_face 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This quote is very popular

[–]Joehogans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The majority is often wrong.

[–]3d_truth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like that Oscar Wilde quote.

[–]GreenTeaOnMyDesk 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Thinking fast and slow by Daniel Kahneman

And

Predictably irrational by Dan Ariely

[–]rengaroz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Someone read Thinking, fast and slow

[–]JcHgvr 20 points21 points  (2 children)

People aren't afraid of sharks because of the likelihood of the encounter. We are afraid of sharks because they are apex predators size of a car with row after row of teeth. Genes don't give a crap about the fact that the vast majority of people will never see a shark in real life. All they see is a massive meat grinder in a unfriendly enviroment.

[–]LeftHookTKD 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Also the reason cows kill more is because the average person will never see a shark. If we did then sharks would kill a lot more

[–]2Joeycrackem 12 points13 points  (14 children)

There are plenty more cognitive biases, but I find these ones at play more than any others!

[–]FractalNerve 3 points4 points  (13 children)

The Art of exploiting such behaviours is called social engineering. I have two exceptionally good books in it. But social proof hinders me from reading it. The Material is truly a sharp and deadly weapon. The Index covers everything from sales tactics, Illusion to creating an agenda and forming a cult/mafia and "hacking minds". Intimidating and creepy table of contents. One would believe knowing that ist unethical and the power gained is too high to avoid it, fearing being ousted as a "Bad Guy/Manipulator or Social Engineer".

Edit: I once met a hypnothist and was only able to infer his interest in hacking and manipulation due to one visual cue he gave, that was an innocent looking ring with an occult symbol in it. Asking that quite well dressed confident looking man if he also was interested in Penetration Testing, hacking and especially "social hacking/engineering" piqued his interest because it was head on right. Independent non-authoritarian, mildly anarchistic people tend to be smart and the only curious ones about these topics. He talked about how he was featured in a then recent woman's magazine by offering diet-hypo-therapies and is freelancing to teach managers how to lead.

Thank you very much for sharing and caring! Highly appreciated!

[–]2Joeycrackem 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Social engineering is very powerful, Marketers use it all the time. A good book on it is "Influence: The psychology of persuasion".

[–]FractalNerve 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Indeed. Maybe too powerful to resist the urge to use/abuse it even in unethical situations by good-willing people. One of my friends asked, wouldn't you rape a stunning Supermodel chained to a tree in an unpopulated area inmidst a forest? Anyone saying no betrays himself of authenticity and opportunity. If you know you don't get cought the resistance is zero and people you know would do it, so you assume everyone would. This is an example of abusing social proof negatively.

Btw. I updated my Post with an anecdote.

[–]The_Noble_Lie 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Anyone saying no betrays himself of authenticity and opportunity

If you know you don't get cought the resistance is zero and people you know would do it, so you assume everyone would

This is absolutely insane. Dont project on others like this and maybe get more moral friends (unless you are ok where you are of course), less materialistic and hedonistic ones. For this is quite clearly a battle between desire for power /sexual urge and relative, even absolute morality.

Expanding on the original post, social proof is actually why many a gang rape happens. Not everyone lets hedonism and materialistic opportunities take hold of their decisions. Sure some. How many? Its quite hard to tell. In modern day, society works to dismantle absolute morality and promotes hedonism (capitalistic pursuits) so maybe an abnormal percentage would act degenerately and rape an attractive girl when granted "free reign" ...

I do not agree that all men would rape a defenseless girl in the forest even with no chance of legal reprecussions. Its because reprecussions exist in the mind. In ones self worth and a multitude of other morality relating characteristics that are developed in different ways in all humans. It seems obvious that you and many of your friends developed little of it. You should re-read this post because I highly suppose you are tremendously guilty of many cognitive bias on the daily and are entirely oblivious to it.

Further, you are prone to exhibit sociopathy if you project that "others" would do the same. Again, did you read the post at all? How many "others" did you actually ask? As you bizarrely admit...the ones that said "no" or "hell no you sick fuck" you dismiss as being "inauthentic"? The truth is some may be inauthentic but others straight up are NOT like you. Differing belief systems, different value systems, differing sexual urges etc.

Thus, you are operating on a key (false) "understanding" (exactly like "all taxi drivers are indians!") which allows sociopaths to do their bidding on humanity (manipulation.)

"If not me, others would take advantage like I am"

Except its just not true, brother. Sorry. You have a lot of work to do undoing the social hedonistic, relativist and materialist brainwashing. Start by reading the post again and searching for how you employ these tactics. We all do to some extent, we just need to be outside the box looking in.

Tldr; You are operating on a cognitive bias that if absolute power corrupts you, it corrupts everyone. The corrupt want you to believe it as true and the virus of social proof did most the work.

[–]FractalNerve 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Oh no, you missunderstood my post. 🙈 That is all that he said to me! It was also meant as an example of abuse of social proof for negative outcome.

He accused me and everyone of unethical character in such a situation. I tried showing him that it's a wrong generalization, but then he found a straw man making a good decision the bad one, pushing the boundaries for what is to do in what situation.

I told him what every sane mind would, to free her. He went on with an other example where a couple goes along and sees her with you trying to free her, but doesn't recognize you as that but rather as her attacker. It was a twisted example of abusal of social proof and also wrong cognitive bias making a situation a lose lose game for those who play.

Edit: I am sure that you reacting emotional to this shows you being principled, but also that objectivity would help you understand and solve missunderstanings like this.

Made me think about human nature. I think berating me or anyone of future wrongdoing given that your implications were true would be no good prevention strategy. But be useful as using social proof as negative enforcement against an undesirable behavior. Which I think is natural and good willing.

Bad behavior generally is seen as bad and humans are originally of good nature and intention by birth.

Environmental, physical/chemical damage/anomaly is the only trigger I truly see as cause for prolonged bad behavior. The only 51% rule breaking exception is social engineering used professionaly. I mean the way like Trump used during his presidential campaign (according to my information).

The most ethically wrong thing possible is doing bad things like: Using Data-Science against all collections of consumer data with weaponized psychological effectiveness for mass manipulation & effective targeted spear fishing types of propaganda. That is the only type of manipulation that is like Bitcoins 51% pool size means control and allowance for double spending and in this case for double standards.

[–]The_Noble_Lie 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I appreciate your elaboration and apologize for the mosunderstanding in that case. Maybe you could forward my rant to your friend haha. Im at work and will respond in depth if pertinant later today or tomorrow.

[–]FractalNerve 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah it's good :)) no worries

I guess he'll just ignore that or get offended, I believe he uses this to probe his friends for malbehaviours or maybe he really thinks everyone is bad. I don't know.

[–]BurnoutRS 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Care to share the names of these books?

[–]savagepatchkid 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Which books? Also, I really like the way you write

[–]sky_fallen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think he said they were 'The Material' and 'The Index' but I couldn't find them.

[–]bleuge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This, interested also in those books titles

[–]FractalNerve 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the kind words, highly appreciated!

I added three book recommendations except the one I feel is unethical to share here, but ok if discovered on one's own (maybe I'm wrong).

When you assume that those who look for truth will not stop when finding the ugly and bad shades of our animal nature, then I believe we can feel safe and let them know it all.

"All power to the people" itself is a naïve ideological fallacy. Meaning giving everyone on Earth the power of the NSA? That's obviously wrong. We are social and hierarchically organised life forms.

Everyone is different and only the upper quantile of the Gauss curve are even interested in knowing what's in the dark. Most people, although able to leverage Social Engineering in their daily life, won't ever need more than what @OP wrote. :) Contrary to that I still believe that augmenting human intellect with such power where determined necessary is and will be our future.

[–]Terdmuffin 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I think one of the best attributes someone can develop is critical thinking. In fact I think one of the main goals of education should be how to think, not what to think. It's a difficult thing to do. To use your piano analogy...I think a lot of people see the piano and think "well, the piano is still hanging so I should be fine to walk under it ".

[–]Rommel0502 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I know the consensus recommendation around here is to major in a STEM field, and I agree, but if you want to really learn how to think critically, may I suggest picking up a minor in philosophy. I know of no other major that teaches one to think logically and critically so quickly. I majored in physics and organically picked up a philosophy degree along the way. Thirty years later, I still find myself using the critical thinking skills I developed while taking it in college.

[–]Arabian_Wolf 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I have an inquiry:

I have a bachelor of Pharmacy, but I found my calling is engineering, what field can I study master at with my qualification?

I have researched master degrees and found Bioscience, Biomedical Engineering, Bioengineering and Biomechanics, not sure if I can study such fields with my qualification.

[–]leonxtravis 1 points1 points [recovered]

Not sure if he'd be able to help.

IIRC he actually ended up getting a MBA and became an investment banker.

[–]Arabian_Wolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah I see.

When I saw his advice I thought he’d be able to reply to me.

[–]Rommel0502 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are exactly correct. Good memory.

Arabian - he is correct. Your degree is a bit out of my wheelhouse.

[–]llamabro 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Read this. Now just waiting for "Moo" to come out.

[–]2Joeycrackem 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Who is moo? ahaha I'm so confused.

[–]llamabro 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The movie about the killer cows

[–]ImHerWonderland 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Haven't read the post yet, but I'd like to say thanks for taking the time and effort to write down your thoughts and offer it to the community free of charge.

[–]SlezBO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just want to say, I used to have reoccurring dreams of being chased and killed by cows...so the whole cows vs sharks and fear thing...I totally get it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beautiful post, made love to my brain.

[–]Wolverines_MAGA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great piece by the way. Our minds can be our greatest ally or our worst enemy. The choice is ours.

[–]reecewagner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like this thread. Being aware of your cognitive biases is the proper dose of humility in a man's life.

[–]sammysep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“The fear of loss” man that really resonated with me. There’s a few habits I haven’t been able to shake nor figure out why and now that you point it out I’m pretty sure it’s due to a fear of potential loss.

[–]LedZepplo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you were ever able to bring these writings to a book on Amazon, I would buy it.

[–]Oscar_Cc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good post. I have always been interested on how marketing techniques prey on our psychology.

[–]twy3440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really good stuff, thanks. I will read your book.

[–]iMakeGreatDeals 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Having $100 and then winning $200 isn't doubling your money, it's winning double your money.

[–]Joehogans 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wouldn't he still be doubling it though?

[–]iMakeGreatDeals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Placing a bet to double your money would result in ending with double your money. In this case he ends with 300. He wins double his money, but he ends with more than double his money.

"Win double your money" would be true, "Double your money" would be less than true.

[–]Runhennyrun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For anyone else interested in learning about more cognitive biases, The undoing project by Michael Lewis is phenomenal

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm with you for most of this thesis.

Confirmation bias is perhaps the reason for many religious wars

This is reductive bullshit though. Though uninformed, people in the past weren't any more stupid then they are now (which is pretty stupid, but not that stupid). I can't think of a single conflict, not even crusades or jihad that could be reduced that simply. Certainly not the period of violence in Ireland, which I only recently learned was considerably communist in nature as well.

And that makes sense. If you want to attack a country, whether through ideas (communism) or through force (say hernan cortez in america), then it helps to exploit any way in which the people are divided. Napoleon attacking into eastern europe was supported by the people of poland because they were suffering repression.

People don't even have to be genuinely repressed, just believe it to be so to take up arms into their hands.

I'm not saying religion never played a part in any conflict; far from it, but it's definitely an oversimplification to say it was simply confirmation bias and religious differences. I'm pretty sure that idea was consciously by someone exploiting the differences between the religious and secular.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Downloaded the Ebook. Thanks! Also, does anyone have any other books like this i can buy on Amazon? Self-Improvement and recognizing mental patterns, even philosophy books, are right in my wheelhouse these days...

[–]daemon86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with alot of that, just reminding you that you are posting this in a sub full of alt-rights and fox news watchers (probably). Some people think doubting everything "mainstream" is critical thinking. I think being critical towards others is natural, but being critical about oneself is hard.

[–]azevedro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The irony. Men telling other men how to think for themselves. Delicious irony.

[–]primatepicasso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We need more quality posts like these

[–]WholesomeAwesome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's make some fun game with this.

Use availability heuristic and associative memory to get her hamster thinking of sex. Basic stuff.

I'm sure you can figure out the rest.

If you want more on this, read ''thinking fast and slow''

[–]Loze1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, we need more posts like these.

[–]davidhorse 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is there an audio book for this?

[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would recommend "Thinking Fast, Thinking Slow" by Daniel Hanneman. (He won the economics Nobel Prize for showing a range of ways in which the economist's assumption that consumers are rational is wrong.

[–]Benasen 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Are you more likely to get killed by a shark or a cow? Looking at yearly statistics of deaths by animals, it looks like cows are deadlier. Yet you fear sharks more than cows. Last time I checked, movies about killer cows do not exist.

This is just plain dumb. Being more fearful of sharks as opposed to cows is a rational, intelligent thing. Sharks are deadlier, people stay away from them to a higher degree and thus they kill less. On the exact opposite cows are not natural hunters and do not instill fear which leads to people not realizing the risks.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

There is an entire sport enjoyed in many countries that is involves fighting or otherwise dangerous proximity with angry cows. I don't remember the last time they held a Running of the Sharks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We really should help evolution out a bit so we can get this Running with Sharks business booming.

[–]unplug9000 1 points1 points [recovered]

" You probably have never driven 200 kilometres per hour on a freeway in your car." Speak for yourself. Some have done this regularly. There are freeways that enable you to do this safely and legally, and cars that have excellent road composure well beyond 200 kph. Speed by itself in not dangerous and there is no reason for it to instill fear in anyone. Being reckless and not adapting your driving to the rules and conditions of the road is. Look at the speed of some trains, but you don't hear the passengers screaming for their lives in fear. They have no reason to.

[–]SmoothPrimal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Definitely dont have this bias and cant afford to do this on reddit or youll consistently be siding with losers and social outcasts.

[–]AceroInoxidable -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I like these posts that aren't alt-right and just give useful perspectives on life.

[–]yumyumgivemesome -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This is why religion, and all dogmas for that matter, are extremely anti-TRP. Those of us who still cling to religion are deluding ourselves for the specific purpose of our own emotions. We need to man the fuck up. Shedding our long-cherished childhood fairy tales is an important step.

Yes, we can be generally TRP with religion, but we should always remember that that aspect of our lives is undoubtedly blue pill and irrational.

[–]Rabbit-Punch -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

racial profiling? fuck off