I'd rather fuck a man. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Ketogainsmongoose

"Tell her you'd rather sleep with a man than ever sleep with her again."

-My father

10 years ago, one of my first girlfriends was a HB8 with a child. A single mother, living with her mother. White, flared hips with a nice ass, fit, perfect teeth and even features with hair down to the small of her back.

I didn't pay her much attention in the beginning. I was distracted with a few other girls at the time. One was a HB3 and the other was a HB5. All I was interested in at the time was blowjobs and how little time it took to get one (the record stands at 30 minutes.)

I remember receiving LMR from the 5. I gently directed her to the door and texted the HB8 saying something along the lines of "it was a close, but I choose you :)" or some such nonsense. She replied "yaaaay! :D".

So before I committed, we had a pretty nice deal. She'd give me blowjobs, and in return I'd go down on her and give her a good lay. Quid pro quo.

I ended up getting sick one day (strep throat), and I looked to her to take care of me like a mother for the week that I was out of commission. After that, she herself got sick for another week.

Two weeks without sexual contact. Once we were both in good health, I attempted to resume our previous arrangement.

"I'm just not feeling it right now." As I sit there with my dick out in the car. I urged her to commit to the deed.

"My throat hurts, I just can't do it."

I surrendered. Several days passed where I would perform cunnilingus and then we'd get busy. But the blowjobs were completely absent in these rendezvous.

I remember the last time she came over to my apartment. It was an empty room with a mattress on the ground. She wanted me to go down on her, and I declined.

"Our deal was if you go down on me, I'd go down on you. That was our deal."

"If you don't go down on me, I can't get wet." She replied.

We went back and forth, and I proceeded to attempt to initiate PIV sex. She simply stared at the ceiling and was dry as a desert down there. Dead bedroom with a resting bitch face. I called her on it and she replied with a short, frustrated tone.

She informed me "If you don't go down on me, we aren't having sex. I'm not wet!"

I stood up, angry and frustrated, and pointed to the door-

"Get the fuck out of my house then."

She quickly picked up her clothes without a word and left.

I was sitting with my dad, trying to make sense of why my "perfect relationship" went south so quickly. "Why is she being such a bitch, dad!?"

He sat there quietly listening to me as I narrated the texts I was receiving. How I was such a disrespectful asshole, how if I "loved her" I would "just do what she wanted."

I sat there, perplexed. What the fuck was she talking about? I looked to my dad for guidance-

"Tell her you'd rather sleep with a man than ever sleep with her again."

At the time, this sounded like a great idea.

So I did just that.

"I'd rather sleep with a man then ever have sex with you again."


I texted her one more time.

"If I don't hear from you again, we're done!" (Big mistake.)

No reply.

2 months had passed. In that time, I heard rumors that my ex started dating a girl. I was labeled as the guy that turned a girl gay. I pushed forward, I didn't give a fuck.

I receive a text-

"I know we didn't leave off on good terms, but I'm moving and I need a truck. I remember that you were really good to me and looking back I made a mistake. I don't expect you to reply but it would be really awesome if you could help me out."

"If you pay me, I'll bring the truck."

I swing by and she gave me $40 bucks. I watched as these two skinny looking guys loaded up her coach and her mattress. They struggled and asked for my help.

"She only paid me to use the truck, she didn't pay me to help." I stated with a chuckle, my arms crossed.

"You're getting paid?" One of the guys said questioningly, his face confused. I found out later that they received "hugs" as payment.

After they were done unloading the product, I turn around to leave.

"Don't I get a hug goodbye? Or are we not on hugging terms." She inquired.

I turned around and gave her a hug with a laugh.

It didn't take long for us to get back together. 3 days before she came back to my place and the first thing she did was drop to her knees and blow me on my bed.

"Never expected you to be back here, sucking my dick. What would your girlfriend think?"

"She cheated on me... She got drunk and slept with a dude. I actually prefer dick over pussy anyways." She stated, before resuming her duties.

"What did you think of my text about fucking a dude instead of you, didn't it bother you?"

"When I talked to people, I asked them 'what does he mean, what does he mean!?' but then looking back now you were really good to me and I was kind of being a bitch so I understand."

Shortly after the deed was done, she whispered in my ear, "I love you, daddy."

I still remember the tingles I felt that ran from my ear to the tip of my dick. I was ready for round two.

The rest is for another story, but I learned that day that it doesn't matter what you say. Words are simply tools. It's how you make them feel.

If you establish boundaries early, it's like entering a whole different world. Women may rail against your boundaries, but only to see if you're the real deal.

Demand better for yourself. Trading your integrity for sex means that you'll receive neither sex nor respect.

Lesbianism is simply a smoke screen for women to screen out weak-willed men. Every woman will be straight for the "right guy."

Always get paid upfront for helping out a women. I got $40 bucks, and a steady supply of blowjobs thereafter, for an hour of my time whilst the two young men who carried her shit up two flights of stairs received nothing more than a Christian side-hug and a sly smile.

Don't ruin the illusion women have of you.

Your weakness ruins their fantasy of you.

Your strength makes them feel like they made the right choice.

Be the guy who fucks, not the guy who pays.

[–]Store_Front_Door 155 points156 points  (8 children)

Once they find a crack they'll start chipping at it very careful, but continuously. A few years ago when I was in a LTR I bought my ex a gift she wanted for her birthday, without even thinking twice. Then she started asking for more things (purses, dresses, vacations and so on) "oh, come look at this dress, I REALLY would like to have it" which has never ever happened before prior to that. Thank God I was aware of her actions and didn't fall in to the hole of BB. "Materialistic gifts are not an expression of love, my dear" was my go to line and it worked like a charm.

[–][deleted] 121 points122 points  (4 children)

As Patrice O’Neal once said “We do NOT negotiate with terrorists” - if u give them an inch they will take a mile.

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 27 points28 points  (2 children)

I use that line all the time. I totally forgot that I had picked it up from Patty. Time to go back and listen to Black Phillip again.

[–]zattraction 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Any decent links to download all the shows? Can't seem to find any that don't sound like shit.

[–]mr-satan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Archive.org has them all. Enjoy the genius that is Patrice!

[–]DntPnicIGotThis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

if you give a mouse a cookie, it's going to want a glass i for milk

[–]darkmoon09 201 points202 points  (26 children)

It's really a wonder why there aren't more men willing to fight for their dignity and self-respect, given that these are the kind of women that make up the culture these days. Are men really that brainwashed and pussy whipped? I guess so.

When I hear stories like this, it's no wonder why some dudes just totally snap and proceed to shoot up their school, it's also a wonder how men as a collective group could have allowed themselves to become so spineless and subservient to women and their imperative.

The Red Pill gets a lot of flak, but honestly it's really the only thing that has to potential to really save guys from falling into a dark abyss.

[–]2comment 86 points87 points  (7 children)

Men aren't born, they're made through hardship and circumstance. As cultures ascend and peak economically, the men who made them die off and more and more boys left stay soft with prosperity until it crashes down.

Just look at housepets vs wild ones at what domestication does. Most of the breeds wouldn't even survive a week in the wild.

[–]Andgelyo 33 points34 points  (0 children)

“Men aren’t born, they’re made”. True words. A boy who worked since he was twelve just to support his sick mother and provide for his siblings is more of man then a guy who was spoiled rotten and got everything his way simply due to a higher socioeconomic status. Being a man is a right of passage.

[–]1grogbottle 13 points14 points  (4 children)

And the ones that do survive dominate. Case in point, my mom's old cat. Grizzled sonofabitch owned the neighbourhood. Scars across his face. Biggest motherfucker around. Zero fucks given. He'd still come home for food and petting.

Drive and vigor, combined with easy access to resources, is where you want to be. It's a great time to be a man, not so much to be a boy.

[–]Cesare_MA 34 points35 points  (3 children)

Get your cat to write a report about his experiences on here.

[–]hammerhearth 4 points5 points  (2 children)

A FIELD report.

Get it.


Get it. Because its a cat that goes outside.

[–]TharsisRise 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“I met up with one of my favorite playthings last week, and after making her scream for about 5 seconds I hear the neighbor’s big pitbull lumbering nearby. Now this is where I talk about holding frame...”

[–]WholesomeAwesome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe it's just the welfare state.

If the economy is privatized, then if you start scruing up, you can feel the ghetto regardless of how rich everyone is.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 17 points18 points  (13 children)

There's no guarantee she's coming back once you assert your boundaries and respect yourself.

She may come back as a bonus but you're basically choosing against her. For people who don't really have options, they will eventually decide their self respect isn't really worth the loss. Or they'll hamster it away.

[–]ProspectiveQuant 12 points13 points  (12 children)

In fact, the vast majority of the time, women won't come back. They have limitless options...lol

These stories are mostly made up, or present with insane survivorship bias. 9,999/10,000 times the women will just never talk to you again.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children)

9,999/1000 times the women will just never talk to you again.

God, how I wish that was true.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v 4 points5 points  (2 children)

women won't come back. They have limitless options...lol

Sure, women do have many options (until they hit the wall). But she will keep coming back to the right guy who can push her buttons just the right way.

Like OP said, its how you make her feel that counts. Women are emotional, and if you can get her the right feelz, she will continue to come back, not matter what you do.

Ask any women in an abusive relationship why she keeps going back to the guy who beats her up...

Most of the time, when she doesn't come back, its becuase the guy was just a pussy, or showed his Beta card, and the game is over...

[–]Dargalo04 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They'll even leave you if you reveal any mental illnesses or slip frame for a moment. It happened to me last year . Learned the hard way .

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not even "abuse" in their mind. They may verbalize it as abuse but in their mind it's simply the downswing on the love story that is their life.

It's drama that builds towards the climax, where they're the star and you're the supporting actor.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

9,999/1000 times the women will just never talk to you again

And you should be totally OK with that.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 4 points5 points  (2 children)

If you break up with her, the odds of her coming back for another round are much, much, much higher than 1 in 10,000. More like 1 in 2.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'd venture it's closer to 70-80% in my experience. Depends on your SMV and how well your frame holds up.

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Over 9000 more than I expected.

[–]aimeeeeeek 1 points1 points [recovered]

What the fuck? A woman doesn’t want to blow you, so somehow that justifies snapping and murdering people?

[–][deleted] 85 points86 points  (13 children)

Story seems fake as fuck lol

[–]UshankaDalek 1 points1 points [recovered]

A single mother was a lesbian and he turned her straight? And that's just the beginning.

[–]ImHerWonderland 2 points3 points  (2 children)

She did something stupid after a breakup where OP essentially said he'd rather be gay than ever be with her again. That had to hurt her self esteem. I don't even see her as a lesbian, she went from straight to dating a girl for a very small amount of time to going back to straight. Not comparable to a girl who's been a dyke since 12.

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (1 child)

he'd rather be gay than ever be with her again. That had to hurt her self esteem.

Only if she believed him. Her actions seem like she could have cared less that he said it. Bi-sexual single mom.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her first mistake was getting with me.

Her second mistake was coming back.

She wasn't very bright.

[–]ATPsynthase12 30 points31 points  (3 children)

What sounds made up:

  • Attractive woman described as perfect in every way

  • no strings attached FWB relationship

  • High school tier made up sex story “Bro she was like totally sucking me after like 30 minutes I swear!”

  • She was on her knees blowing him , calling him daddy, and going from lesbian to straight within days due to his “super alpha characteristics”

What doesn’t sound made up:

  • starts dating

  • OP gets pissed off she won’t suck his dick while sick with a sore throat because “we had a deal”

  • OP tries to PIV her DRY pussy then gets pissed off and tells her to leave because she isn’t instantly wet from his super alpha display of begging for a blow job then arguing about it for 10 minutes

  • OP tells her he wants to fuck dudes instead of her then acts surprised when she doesn’t respond

(pro tip: if you want in a girl’s pants, don’t tell her you’d rather stick your dick in another guys asshole and expect it to be a successful pickup line. That is THE DUMBEST shit I’ve heard. Like almost as bad as those meme Indian guys harassing girls for bob and vagiene pics. In reality it probably worked for your dad once like 30 years ago and has been his go to move ever since.)

  • OPs blue pulled beta characteristics or obviously faked alpha ones made her want pussy over dick

  • He’s the only guy with a truck she knows so she contacts him and uses the “damsel in distress” technique to have him come help her as she did with all the other beta orbiters

  • OP comes sprinting back to her at the first sign of interest and joins the other betas in helping her move out

  • OP made her give him and awkward hug as “payment” for helping her

[–]shmog 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It's apparent that it's fake after a couple sentences. Was very disappointed to see the top comments, until I read yours. You're spot on!

[–]MrPerfidy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

lol I thought the whole point was to lurk what people said about the whole, fucking men part

[–]BurnDownTheMission68 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s every other post on this sub

There may be some truth in this story but a lot of made up shit too


[–]halfback910 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I started tuning out where he said he needed someone to take care of him while he had strep throat.

When I get strep throat (rare now, super rare, used to get it all the time) I go to work, take my Z-pack, pop some tylenol, drink tea, don't talk in meetings, sanitize like crazy to avoid spreading it, and call it a day. How would someone even help me?

It's one of those sicknesses I feel where A: Nobody can "help" you and B: Staying home does absolutely nothing to make you feel better or help you recover. You're just going to be in pain for, like, four or five days. And I feel like using PTO to be in pain at home is a Goddamn waste. If anything, I want to use my sick days and vacation days when I'm at my healthiest. If my employer is going to pay for my time it may as well be the time that is worth the least to me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just laying out the thought process of a 20-21 year old retard, at the time.

This was 10 years ago. Looking back, that kid definitely didn't need anyone taking care of him. He needed to take care of himself.

In any case, if I'm not posting controversial shit, I don't feel like I'm even posting.

[–][deleted] 96 points97 points  (1 child)

I like your Father.

Buy him a beer and tell him it was from Mike.

[–]thewayshegoesbahd 33 points34 points  (4 children)

I'm not buying this story for one penny.

[–]UshankaDalek 1 points1 points [recovered]

Me either. (just my two cents)

[–]asdasda5453 1 point2 points  (0 children)

nor am I (just my 3 pennies)

[–]Azor_AHYPE 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I just can't believe most FR or personal stories I read here anymore. Some of them are absolutely ridiculous. Guys turning lesbians straight, making hookers fall in love on their first time fucking, going from virgin high schoolers to fucking 4 girls a week after 6 months. I don't know how those posts are upvoted so high. Do you guys really like reading those shit soft porn stories out of the heads of people who have never even touched a woman in real life?

[–]WholesomeAwesome -1 points0 points  (0 children)

we should probably start incentivising proof

[–]JcHgvr 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I don't know why but being called "daddy" during or after sex is really creeping me out.


Lesbianism is simply a smoke screen for women to screen out weak-willed men. Every woman will be straight for the "right guy."

While woman are more fluid with their sexuality this is not true.

[–]Jtub 19 points20 points  (2 children)

💯% fake and gay

And if this is real, holy shit, I don't want to live on this gay earth.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Better start slinging up that rope in your basement!

[–]nebula79283 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While you’re at it I’ll throw in some bleach

[–]adonis_forte 54 points55 points  (15 children)

I only read the title, missed me with that gay shit

[–]3d_truth 47 points48 points  (12 children)

Fucking a bloke is the most manly act we can make. Sick of this soft new age generation, who can only fuck girls, with soft skin and feminine features. Fuck that shit, give me an alpha male to fuck, like a real man.

[–]Andgelyo 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Are you ready to go where no man has gone before? Only real alphas slay other men. Go hard or go home. Boys fuck girls, men fuck men. The Alpha way. Gotta confuse them right babe?

[–]PM_ME_UR_NAKED_TITS 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Gotta fuck guys to confuse other guys, right babe?

EDIT: I wrote to confuse 2 times for no apparent reason

[–]3d_truth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Boys fuck girls, men fuck men.


[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Amen, brotha. I have my kilt on and am full mast. Let's show these 'lads how real men handle their business!

[–]3d_truth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Alright lets do this. Now all you pansies pay attention, maybe you can learn a thing a two about what it takes to be a man.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re just too edgy for the rest of us brah

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You want to fuck an Alpha Male?

[–]3d_truth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, fucking an alpha male is a peak sexual experience.

[–]rsimonm 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It was a good thread, clearly it was a joke, maybe don't rush to judgement so fast next time 😂😂

[–]adonis_forte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

missed me with that logical shit. Common sense is for the common gents

[–]Jbachner19 1 points1 points [recovered]

Im just gonna go ahead and say that 95% of lesbians actively dating women arent using their sexuality as a shit test.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Yeah, I've yet to meet a lesbian who hasn't enthusiastically sucked off a dude after a couple drinks. My step brother has one of these self proclaimed "lesbians" sending him snaps asking for dick pics and every so often she'll come over and blow him.

Granted, she isn't the best looking, but when asked about the duality of her sexuality, she responds to him "I just like sucking your dick.

[–]goldfarmer 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I've met plenty of lesbians that are truly lesbians. A few have been my good friend for years. I've even gone prowling with them at clubs and bars.

[–]askmrcia 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Same and they make great wingmen,

[–]wokedaoist 9 points10 points  (1 child)

TRP is about accepting reality, isn't it?

So tell me which is more realistic. Would women rather use conventional shit tests (LJBF, etc.), or invent an entire lifestyle to shake off beta males? I think the answer is obvious.

As an aside, anecdotal evidence gets accepted for fact way too often on this sub.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A women's lifestyle is centered around her ability to garner attention when none was previously warranted.

You're seriously asking me this question when a majority of a woman's day consists of applying makeup, grooming herself, posting selfies, and skillful use of clothing to advertise their sexuality?

[–]antariusz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know what the percentage is. I don’t think it’s as high as 95%

I’d be willing to say 2/3 though.

Anecdotally I’ve had sex with 5 different lesbians while they were still in a “committed” relationship. Out of say 250ish total lays. Considering only about 5% of the population is gay. I theoretically should have fucked 12 lesbians if they were ALL “faking” it. But because my number is only 5. I’m willing to say only 1/3 are.

[–]DatingCoach111 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Watch any woman if they’d still be sick, have a headache, or be too tired if Jared Leto were to ask for a blowjob. Amazing how their illness just vanishes.

[–]AudioRebellion 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Very true. I had a fuck buddy a few years ago that still blew me even though she had broken her arm and got it casted earlier in the day.

[–]halfback910 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's not impressive. Should've given you a handy with the broken arm. Show some gumption.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 11 points12 points  (1 child)

What they say: I'm too tired for sex.

What they mean: I'm too tired of you for sex.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of the last blowjobs I received from this girl was when she was hung over (she became an alcoholic.)

Too sick/tired/dying my ass.

[–]EmeraldDS 21 points22 points  (4 children)

If she likes dudes, she's not a lesbian. Bi and pan women exist. And plenty of women will be exclusively gay with no "exception". If you think your dick's so great, go fuck yourself on it.

inb4 downvote brigade because I'm not following the crowd.

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pan is nonsense. Thats just bi. Plenty of women say they are exclusively gay. Very rarely do women act exclusively gay. Don't listen to their words, Yada yada.

[–]theliyonkang 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Just say the title, didn't read the post. Just wanted to let you know that u gay

[–]dtoor14 10 points11 points  (12 children)

Nice post, wondering though, what would you have done differently to get her to keep blowing you after the 2 weeks of no sexual contact? Or rather, what do you feel caused her to “not be in the mood” for it? Was it because you were doing things for her & expecting she return the favor (cunnilingus => BJ)

[–][deleted] 71 points72 points  (11 children)

I got sick, stopped being fun, bitched to her about my finances, and expected her to "take care of me" when I was sick.

Hide your weaknesses. It ruins the illusion they have of you.

I only performed cunnilingus if I had received a blowjob prior. Once she got over her illness following me, she "couldn't get into it" when blowing me and said her "throat was still sore" days after recovering from strep.

So I fronted her the cunnilingus, like a fool, thinking she'd "pay me back."

They don't pay you back. They only give you what they think you deserve. Never more than that.

[–]nebula79283 38 points39 points  (3 children)

True, had a girl HB6 asking me to consistently “get dinner” with her and sending me texts weekly about “when are we gonna study?” One day I actually decided to respond to her booty call and we ended up making out, I got her super wet but because this was before I read TRP I fell for the whole “I dont usually have sex outside of a relationship” thing. (Since she had a boyfriend i thought “omg there’s no way she’d have sex”) So since I believed that horseshit we kept doing that until we decided to stop for a second where I broke character and opened up and shit. (Big Mistake). No texts ever since that night.

Showing your weaknesses is a BIG error

[–]AudioRebellion 58 points59 points  (2 children)

Showing weakness is how i get rid of girls. Works like a fucking charm.

[–]anothdae 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Just start crying after sex. They will leave in no time, and you don't even have to pay for the uber.

[–]chacha341 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Plate ditching strategy?

[–]mnemos_1 12 points13 points  (0 children)

So I fronted her the cunnilingus, like a fool, thinking she'd "pay me back."

They don't pay you back. They only give you what they think you deserve. Never more than that.

Most clear-cut example of Briffault's Law I've seen thus far.

[–]Drizzestsix 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I jacked a 5 year LTR by being sick in front of an EX. I could feel a complete change after this happened. I was extremely sick positive Flu-A. I was in bed for multiple days and asked her to bring me home a gatorade or something after work. She walked in and dropped the gatorade bottle on the bed near my feet. She said something like, “Here’s your drink do you need me to call your mommy aswell?” She changed from that point on, disgust, loss of respect. Illusion broken. This lasted the rest of the relationship. Anytime someone was talking about being sick she would passively comment on how I’m such a baby when i’m sick. Never show weakness.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Very early in the marriage I injured myself and Legal Cohabiting Female got all bitchy about it. Wtf? I finally told her, "So, what, if I broke my leg would you leave me?" You need to deliver that shit as dead pan as possible--cold, stoic motherfucker. She chilled the fuck out after that.

Sometimes shame is the only thing they understand.

Even then, it didn't keep her from acting like a cheap slut when I looked away.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Turning tknher to take care of you when you were sick was a mistake too. Now if she iffers then insists, then yeah. But never ask for that type of thing. The woman should just do it instinctively

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

This happened 10 years ago.

Never put yourself into a position where your care depends on a woman you receive sex from. If you do, be aware you run the risk of losing her attraction.

Women are meant to take care of children unconditionally, not men they're currently fucking. Men today often get confused because their own mommies neglected them when they were young.

[–]ghettobeluga 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You sound like a bitch lol

[–]IrrevocablyUndamaged 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That was a very poorly written story.

[–]le_wolfe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the chuckles on a monday morning, OP.

[–]Alpha_Jedi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Never negotiate, subtly command. These stories might help for future reference:

https://alphajedi.com/2017/11/15/the-workaround/ https://alphajedi.com/2017/08/17/the-lesbian/

[–]Extremely_Photogenic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How long did you have to sit in the truck watching the guys move her shit around?

[–]Aggressive_Beta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Being in a committed relationship with a single mother IS being the guy who pays.

[–]SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aww, I thought this was gonna be a story about how you decided to try out dudes because you hate girls so much.

[–]gamecubefan95 1 points1 points [recovered]

Man this subreddit has really gotten cringe tbh

[–]Andgelyo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

“Gamecubefan95” lol

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (8 children)

The real cringe is opening up someone's posting history to see an avid WoW player answering questions of youngsters over at asktrp.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Boom. Headshot.

[–]Reefer-eyed_Beans 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The most cringe is you bragging about stalking someone's post history out of pure desperation and not even coming up with anything good.

I'll never understand why people do this...does it really sound that fucking tough and cool in your head? "I'll show you, just wait til I follow you home and find something irrelevant about your life to tell the kids at school tomorrow..."

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You should see me at parties after a couple drinks if you think this is cringe.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What about Starcraft? Or COD? Playing video games doesn't make you "beta" any more than fapping. If somebody is playing (fapping) 8 hours a day while looking for a job you would have a point.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Every minute these kids waste in front of a gaming console is a minute where they've lowered their SMV, weakend their frame, and have decreased their chances of cool shit like this from happening, by default. Opportunity cost. If they're playing, they aren't gaming women, they're not expanding their social circle with actual humans, they're not lifting, they're not learning a new skill, they're not making money. It's a total fucking time sink.

Are there exceptions? Sure, but they're outliers and not the norm.

I mean, play games if you want, but these gamer posters are doing the ol' thathappened/nothingeverhappens routine. They almost certainly don't lift if they're playing games for most of the day.

Total waste of brain space. Maybe if they put down the controller and went outside once in awhile they'd end up posting some thathappened examples themselves, rather than wasting our time trying to crab-bucket people actually living life.

Girls aren't going to come knocking on their door, saying "is this where Chad lives?" They need to leave the house and do something with their life, they need to put themselves out there.. If they put out mediocre effort, they'll get lackluster results.

If somebody is playing (fapping) 8 hours a day while looking for a job you would have a point.

Let's be honest, this is exactly what they're doing.

[–]gamecubefan95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about spending 8 hours a day on Reddit talking about fucking women? (yikes)

[–]4minutemilesss 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I get this odd feeling you and your girlfriend are both fat. This is a fat chick story. Care to post a pic of what you look like so I can verify if you are a beta or an alpha?

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 4 points5 points  (0 children)

pretty sure i read this shit a year ago or so

[–]LILKAYLXVERT 4 points5 points  (0 children)

might be the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life hahahaha you people are funny as fuck.

[–]Jujuthrewaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes that last sentence is so true. I was at the bar yesterday and some dude was there with his girl while she and her friends were on the dance floor lol. She was dancing with other dudes and he let her wtf

[–]hdosnxbjdjeb 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Could you give another example of how words don't really matter? Hopefully a common situation lol

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

This same girl told me that I was not getting a blowjob because I pissed her off during the day, something inconsequential.

I replied, "good, your blowjobs suck anyway!" followed by a chuckle.

I received a blowjob later that night. It was playful at the time, now I see that it was a shit test where she attempted to weaponize sex. Could've gotten real ugly real fast.

[–]hdosnxbjdjeb 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What would you do if a girl made up some bullshit excuse like "I'm tired" or "not tonight"? How would you prevent that from happening in the first place?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If you're hearing that bullshit, you've fucked up somewhere earlier. Your frame, most likely.

Basically, don't let yourself get into this position. If you are, eject and next. Pretend you're the bucking bronco and they're trying to hold on. Give them a wild ride that is your life and see if they have what it takes to hold on.

You can never be a treated like a bitch if you don't act like one. Treat it like a game where you have nothing to lose.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (1 child)

eject and next

This is very good advice except it means something different to the plate spinning Terps than it does to the married Merps.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I operate strictly within domains I'm familiar with: hot, dumb, young sluts who normally have a boyfriend at home.

I have no experience with being married or with having kids.

[–]MrPerfidy 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I am still laughing @ "to front" cunnilingus. OP are you not a western white man?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm a gentleman first and a cad second.

[–]MrPerfidy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I dont get it lol What is weird about the phrase to me is like it assumes that muzzling a pussy is some kind of sacrifice on your behalf and like demands renumeration

[–]BigKing101 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Sorry, but what does HB mean? As you wrote HB3, HB5, and HB8.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

HB= Hot babe on a scale of 1-10. It's strictly a measurement of physical beauty.

Do not conflate it with RMV or SMV - relationship market value or sexual market value.

[–]BigKing101 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If HB means hot babe, does that still mean an HB1 is hot?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. A 1 is crackwhore status to me.

[–]trp1294 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[–]HierEncore 1 point2 points  (4 children)

"got sick for a week"... you know, casually eating out women is a great way to get HPV resulting in throat cancer and surgery to remove cysts in your face/throat/stomach. Fun comes at a cost. I'd say choose the hottest and stick with one

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Believe me, I've learned my lesson. This was 10 years ago. I was young and dumb.

I'll only eat out a girl I'd marry, now.

Coincidentally, I'll never get married.

Problem solved!

[–]HierEncore 1 point2 points  (2 children)

there are still some genuine and loving women out there who just want to spend their lives with a faithful man. But they are a very small minority thanks to contemporary culture... probably on the religious/traditional end (think mormon, genuine catholic, etc).. they are out there tho, if you seek them

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm not interested in finding one. They're simply genetic donors to me.

I found I never really wanted to be married, or be in a committed relationship for that matter, once I was in a few of them.

I was told that's what I should want. I'm tired of being told what I want.

I want to be free.

I'd rather invest in myself.

[–]HierEncore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should definitely do what feels right to you, although I find that a decent faithful spouse adds a certain degree of freedom, actually... if you can manage to find one.

I might get shit on by anti-traditionalists for saying this, but a decent woman will save you time shopping/preparing food, taking care of your kids, keeping the house neat, heck some married women bring in some income too. You won't waste all your money dating or balancing plates or worrying about pussy.. in fact, you'll get bored of pussy enough to be able to focus on your real interests.

[–]failberry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you meant do ut des other than that nice read.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome story man. I have one slight piece of advice. When you say "be the panel women fit into," I don't think you should completely dominate a woman's life. A man's role is to provide stability and direction, and in turn the woman provides energy and a home life. As long as you are a man you can encourage your woman to grow AS A WOMAN, and not feel the need to suffocate her with dominance.

[–]SmilingWatermelon 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I like how honest you are about the hb3 and hb5. A lot of guys come on here and talk about this stuff but no one seems to fuck anything less then a 7.

Bet if they showed a picture of their hb7+ we would all say they were 5s.

Anyways good post.

[–]wheresMYsteakAt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah no shit and hb7 is the lowest most say Hb9 which is exceptional beauty.

[–]askmrcia 1 point2 points  (1 child)

We really need to sticky on rating scales. Either that or people need to stop mentioning if a girl is a HB whatever. No one here cares what she looks like and her attractiveness don't add any value to the story on most occasions.

Damn near every field report I ever see on here is guys saying they are with a HB8+.

Newsflash for you posters, HB8 are celebrities. HB9s are top tier celebs/models/athletes (aka the best looking women on the planet). HB10s DO NOT EXIST.

Guys here are claiming any white girl that's not fat as an HB8. Please stop. Honestly though we just need guys to leave the HB rating out of post. We know people are doing it for validation anyways.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're conflating HB, a measurement of physical attractiveness, with SMV- a measurement of sexual market value.

The girls in this story had a SMV score of 1, maybe 2, out of 10. They were garbage.

[–]cBIGONE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know right! Some guys also say "I've been lifting and have noticed massive changes, and now hb9s want me", yet they say they are now 155 pounds and lean and huge. You would expect a 205 pounds shredded bodybuilder by the comment

[–]CallMeQuinnie 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nice post mate, very analytical and reflective; it's always helpful to look back at what you did when to figure out which steps taken were most effective and which weren't for the end game.

That whole first part of losing the bj's is just exemplary of the "comfort is a killer" principle which you handled well for the most part. I think the "get the fuck out now" part was a bit much unless you're game is highly centered around assholery. Lmao I have had the "i'm going lesbian" thing happen to me before as well. Yeah, once getting dicked down well enough they can't stay away and given enough time will always come running back.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm an unabashed asshole and my game revolves around blending the asshole with amused mastery.

Women can't tell if you're coming or going.

Almost every day I've been in any sort of relationship with a girl, they've called me an asshole. Didn't stop then from eagerly sleeping with me. They treated it as some sort of game if anything.

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Shortly after the deed was done, she whispered in my ear, "I love you, daddy."

You do know this is complete bullshit from her right?

Your dick did the "negotiating" for you when she questioned you about "not hugging anymore?"

What did you think of my text about fucking a dude instead of you, didn't it bother you?

She knew the moment you texted this you were full of shit. Why would you even ask her what effect it had? This isn't really "dignity" here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude I just held frame and shit happened it was fucking crazy.

You do know this is complete bullshit from her right?

I can confirm this. Not her dad, just the guy she was fucking. Don't know where the fuck she got the idea that I was her dad, gross!

She knew the moment you texted this you were full of shit. Why would you even ask her what effect it had? This isn't really "dignity" here.

I think you're seriously overestimating the IQ of the women I mess with.

[–]ianselfmade 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I'm new to redpill. Should i believe this story?

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Why are you asking other people what to think?

See? You already learned something from this thread.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This exchange got a genuine chuckle out of me. What the fuck. lol

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

These posts are fucking retarded.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Careful, the wrong person is going to see you replying to every single comment and submission I make across threads and get the wrong idea. I'm not above criticism, but I'm not a fan of stalking trolls.

[–]NineInchNut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Strep hell, you gave her clap

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

TLDR: "it doesn't matter what you say. Words are simply tools. It's how you make them feel."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her last boyfriend couldn't get it up, which sounded crazy to me at the time.

Looking back, I see now that the experience left her very insecure about her attractiveness. When I sent her the text, it pried open her insecurity.

[–]BitSizeBitcoin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy shit this was enlightening.