Billy the Beta orbiter. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by alphasquatch50

My wife, Mandi, like me, is a teacher, but for two decades she worked in the insurance industry. In her office there was a guy, Billy, about 10 years her junior who was unmarried and worked in the same department. He was the epitome of the Beta orbiter. Evidently he spent much of his spare time playing some sort of group game whose name escapes me. At first, she was convinced that he was gay, but he later confessed that he had been engaged and that his fiancé’ had cheated on him.

He always tagged along to lunch with my wife and her friends, lingered around any group she was in and generally just orbited. My wife’s friends then started to joke that Billy’s crush on Mandi was overtly obvious. He often dropped cards on her desk wishing her a happy birthday or just telling her how great she was and how glad that she was his friend.

Mandi is attractive and more than a few co-workers have looked her way, but Billy was just too transparent. He was always sending her texts just to say hello or to show her some meme or video he thought was funny. He even told her about the few dates he went on and how they always ended in failure, and on more than one occasion, remarked how lucky I was to have found a woman like her.

I laughed it off, and didn’t even ask what he looked like. I finally met him at a company Christmas party and was not surprised to find that he was straight out of central casting as the stock character representation of a modern emasculated male.

He sat at the table with us and tried to hide his social anxiety. He seemed to find it impossible to make small talk with me. Mandi leaned over the table to pick up something and I smacked her ass hard, right in his face: he looked like he wanted to vomit.

Mandi and I danced a slow dance or two. When we went to sit down, I put her hand on his and told him, “here, take her for a spin.” Mandi rolled her eyes at me, but took his hand and said “come on Billy.” They did one dance and I thought he might pass out. He came back to the table, looking pale and then made some excuse to leave early.

Mandi hasn’t worked for that company in 5 years, but Billy still texts her almost every day. He’s still single and still, according to him ... lonely.

Don’t be Billy.

[–]FluffDevotee 562 points563 points  (23 children)

Some say Billy still texts her to this very day.

Oh wait, he does.

[–]1alphasquatch50 213 points214 points  (7 children)

Probably while I wrote this.

[–]staytrue1985 23 points24 points  (6 children)

That's sad, dude. He loves her, but nothing wrong with that. Maybe she should tell him to move on, and then stop replying to his texts.

[–]1alphasquatch50 20 points21 points  (5 children)

We both kinda think it's harmless and that he needs a friend.

[–]0urlasthope 1 points1 points [recovered]

Be his friend. Be his wakeup call

[–]Casd12 21 points22 points  (0 children)

lol, knowing billy he'll use the words of advice from op and tell his wife saying how op is a misogynist and try to be the knight in armor and win her

[–]RedPilledRoaster 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Uh, no. You really think that’s gonna work?

[–]Ghrev_233 38 points39 points  (2 children)

Sometimes when you're very quiet, you can the taps his fingers make on his phone as he crafts a message for her...

[–]TheReformist94 16 points17 points  (8 children)

And OPs wife is technically emotionally cheating on him by replying to Billy's texts for 5years enjoying the side validation of stringing an orbiter along.

[–]1alphasquatch50 5 points6 points  (6 children)

We kinda view it as harmless and good for him to have that connection. His texting her has never been a secret.

[–]melungeonmuscle 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Wtf 5 years they been texting? What do they even discuss? That sounds fishy to me...

[–]1alphasquatch50 9 points10 points  (2 children)

He sends cute little funny things like memes and vids. He tells her about his family and any date he might go on, asks her advice about things. I think he likes to cook and sends recipes etc. I have truly never worried about it.

[–]melungeonmuscle 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Sounds almost like a gay, pet friend they like to keep lol

[–]1alphasquatch50 6 points7 points  (0 children)

sort of I suppose

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

view it as harmless and good for him to have that connection

But it isn't harmless to Billy. She should nocom him. Maybe then he will move on and find some happiness?

Really what you are doing is akin to when a cat plays with a mouse before he eats it.

Or she could be banging him on the side. Hence his anxiety around you. Remember what women say and what women do are not equalities.

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think he really values the friendship. I really doubt that she's banging him ...

[–]awgnnerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I might be a Billy.

Edit: Definitely a Billy.

[–][deleted] 383 points384 points  (51 children)

how dare u slap her ass u mysogymistic evil white male.

[–]lorum_ipsum_dolor 132 points133 points  (16 children)

Poor Billy just can't understand why Mandi obviously enjoyed it.

He faps while thinking about it to this day.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (13 children)

Who knows if this story is real, but we do kno that there are many "men" like Billy out there.

[–]denverwind1 32 points33 points  (4 children)

I wonder too. You wrote the name Mandi many times. The last sentence it's spelled Mandy. No one misspells their partners name

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

he wasn't using their real names.

[–]ImHerWonderland 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah p sure OP used fake names for his wife and coworker.

[–]1alphasquatch50 22 points23 points  (7 children)

I don't understand what about this story seems fictional. I see dudes like Billy every day.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (5 children)

It seems likely. But it's also likely that people lie on the internet. A little specticism is always healthy.

[–]Ankuno_ 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Specticism lel. I know it's probably a typo, but it sounds funny and it could be a real word

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I actually have no idea how to spell a lot of words.

[–]Raii-v2 15 points16 points  (0 children)

And tha Billy and Mandy are characters from a once popular cartoon tv show

[–]coldser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds Like a cat playing with the mouse

[–]Motor-boat 1 points1 points [recovered]

It is kind of tasteless for a public setting... Your wife, your whore i guess 👍

Too redpill to date. Too blue to slap my partner in public... am I purple pill? 🤔

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill 22 points23 points  (13 children)

Redpill is amoral. Who gives a fuck if he smacked her ass or her face?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

and splat goes my water onto my laptop screen

[–]AshyLarry27 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Laughing way too hard at the thought of someone mis-reading OP's piece as if he just slapped her across the face just to show up and piss off Billy

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I think it's kind of cute and endearing :l /s

[–]Motor-boat 1 points1 points [recovered]

I think it is too. I've had a girl slap my ass before. It's cute and sweet and prompts me to turn around and give a smooch, but in public is a whole nother ballfield. You better believe I'ma fight if my girl slaps my ass in public. So why not give her the same respect? Again this is one of these areas that TRP folks are bound to misinterpret. Just because you do something and it yields positive results most of the time, doesn't mean the thing you're doing is inherently positive.

[–]p3n1x 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You better believe I'ma fight if my girl slaps my ass in public.

You sound insanely insecure and controlling.

[–]Motor-boat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know, It happens every time I visit this subreddit.

[–]thechaosz 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]modTheRedPike[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TRP folks

I see.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (10 children)

No, you're just autistic. It shows that they are a comfortable couple and that he isn't afraid to show that he is sexually attracted to his wife. Not tasteless at all. Also wording it like that makes it seem like abuse. He slapped her ass. U cant just say "slapped your partner" because it is not the full story. Fake news.

[–]1alphasquatch50 18 points19 points  (4 children)

And to share a bit of personal info, we kinda get off on PDA.

[–]redvelvet_oreo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Not sure why your getting so much shit. Girls love the excitement and want to be touched. I always do shit to my LTR in public settings just for the thrill. Jesus you would think it’s pretty understood by now to play with a woman’s emotions is key to success.

[–]p3n1x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The guy handing out shit is a bible thumper who believes he entitled to tell others how to behave.

[–]Motor-boat 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yes, everyone does. It's a sin for a reason.

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mother Nature doesn't give a shit about your opinion.

[–]Motor-boat 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I am actually autistic. How can I improve my mental health enough to where I don't cringe when I see a public ass slapping? I'm the one with the problem, right?

[–]1alphasquatch50 4 points5 points  (3 children)

By understanding that if done in the right way it makes them sloppy wet.

[–]Motor-boat 8 points9 points  (2 children)

But that's why I cringe. I was into PDA too, when I was in high school...

[–]1alphasquatch50 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's ok to still enjoy it ... assuming you have a willing female.

[–]Rabbit-Punch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not just PDA, its unclassy. PDA can be done in a classy or unclassy manner.

[–][deleted] 123 points124 points  (24 children)

I smacked her ass hard, right in his face: he looked like he wanted to vomit.

LMAO. Pretty sad what's happened to my generation, and the disastrous consequences it will have in the future. What's more depressing is how they don't even want to help themselves or accept any external help. Only thing we can do now is focus on ourselves and not worry about the problems in our society we can't fix.

[–]flashcash12 73 points74 points  (19 children)

College breeds a generation of emasculated pussies. My college used to produce Fortune 500 ceos and billionaire real estate developers. While the school is still filed with powerful alumni, 75% of guys on campus are sjw faggots who bitch about white privilege, racism on campus and Donald Trump 24/7. You know what they all have in common...

Low t levels

A virgin

Limited self awareness

Social anxiety

No self respect or confidence

No real life or real work experience

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (5 children)

I'd argue it all started with the previous generations. Generation X's bad parenting ultimately built the groundwork for an apathetic and falsely altruistic generation, to which the colleges and universities (businesses) catered to.

[–]Minopo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Generation X Yeah, I agree generation X parents are in general bad parents. At least in my country, Portugal, generation x parents were poor, didn't did had anything in they childwood and when they become parents, they try to provide everything they didn't have in their childwood to their kids. Of course this build an entire generation of pussies ( men and women ). They think they have the right to everything without doing anything. They complain alot and do nothing to improve their situation. ( I can include myself in complain about women, because it's one of the few things I cant control alone in my life ) But in my country, in general, people born between 1978 and 1998 are a lost generation.. I think kid's born after 1998 are less pussies.

[–]flashcash12 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I totally see that. It’s generational as most Gen-X people had bad parents. The Gen-X kids were also known at as the latch key generation. Both my parents were latch-keys kids and had bad childhoods. My grandparents minus my are awful parents and people straight up. My parents raised me and my siblings alright but both have their own severe flaws and admitted they wish they did a lot better. I’m just lucky I have a good head on my shoulders and grew up in a great area.

What’s your opinion on baby boomers being raised by the greatest generation?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't know to be honest. I'm by no means an academic, and the cold war was a very complicated time, maybe in the history of the world. Most people don't realize it, but pretty much all of the international political relations and tensions directly stem from the height of the cold war, some even say it really never ended. We're at a period were tensions continue to rise, and the doomsday clock is as close to midnight as it was during the Cuban missile crisis.

[–]exaltedviews 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Every generation blames the generations that came before them. Although there are definitely problems in society it's more important to focus on what you can change and make yourself the best you can be and forget that other people are weak. The more weak men there are out there the better off you are as an individual.

[–]CommanderAmerica 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not unless you want to grab a beer after work whilst shooting the shit. [My co-workers are soft]

[–]Two_kids_in_a_coat 20 points21 points  (12 children)

I swear they think being a sjw faggot or feminist will get them pussy, but it’s the biggest repulsion out there.

[–]Zippy1776 11 points12 points  (1 child)

This is literally what they're taught. No one is taught how to be a man in any public education path. They're all taught to conform and have disney's underdog always wins bullshit forced down their throats.

[–]Two_kids_in_a_coat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That’s where the loss of fathers hurts the most. Boys raised by single moms never had a chance

[–]flashcash12 9 points10 points  (7 children)

Yeah it truly is. It’s happened so many times where sjw girls at parties claim they hate white guys and hate republicans but I continue to annihilate their shit tests and 30 mins later I’m fucking them. Their beta orbiter friends hate guys like. However they have no idea and think that acting like a feminist will get them laid from those girls but they are truly repulsed.

[–]corystereo 10 points11 points  (6 children)

A stunning, gorgeous girl in the computer class I'm presently taking, who wore a Girl Power shirt to class once, always has nerdy guys tagging along trying to befriend her.

I barely give her the time of day, and (this is the important aspect of it) it's not an act on my part. As gorgeous as she is, I have rejected advances from girls hotter than her, so I know there's a dozen more like her that I can get. Just to see how she'd react, I even catcalled her once (I'm trying to break that habit--I know its disrespectful), and she knew it was me because she turned around and saw only me standing there. She didn't respond, positive or negative.

Well, this morning, after 10 weeks in class with her and practically ignoring her the entire semester, I finally address her directly when I say "Have a nice day." She looks up at me with the most hypnotized look, smiles widely, and mumbles a barely intelligible reply. She seemed pleasantly surprised I was addressing her.

This is Ms. "Girl Power" who I have catcalled, mind you. It's been an interesting social experiment in the...contradictions within the feminist mind.

[–]flashcash12 10 points11 points  (3 children)

If you have a high smv you can get away with saying anything or nothing for that matter. Girls I know have confirmed what we knew all along. All that matters is frame/passing shit tests, high smv (good looking face trumps body) and being confident. If you play hard to get they chase you harder if they are attracted to you. According to my sister 95% of guys can’t pass shit tests and even popular high smv frat guys are some of the most beta guys I’ve ever seen and girls make fun of them.

Be good looking/high smv Hold frame Pass shit tests Be confident

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

If you have a high SMV as a male, you can get away with anything PERIOD. If you're a real soothsayer, you can convince a whole crowd of anything and have a following of disciples. There's been plenty of cases of celebrities, politicians, cult leaders, anything, that do or say all kinds of things and people just eat it up.

[–]flashcash12 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There’s times where I will say the most obnoxious/asshole things and other high smv guys and girls think it’s hilarious or don’t care. However a lot of low smv and betas hate me and think I’m a dick. But who gives a fuck about low smv males and betas. All they do is make competition easier in everything.

[–]thechaosz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is my family and old friends, they are total faggots.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know its disrespectful)

You had me until this...that is the stupidest statement i have seen here in a while...and i've seen alot

Disrespectful? Who cares? How have the hoes earned your respect? Thinking its disrespectful to catcall or holla at a girl is buying into the feminist imperative. Cut it out.

[–]thechaosz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Updates on this would be interesting. Playing the long game

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It goes beyond pussy. They believe it gives them social recognition and a superior position in society. They don't deal with rejection well, so they have given up on pussy all together and decided that finding common circle jerk groups gives them a purpose in life.

All the thumbs up thumbs down likes and followers gives them the impression of "Acceptance".

[–]EscapeTheGoat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not the whole generation dude. Some of us recognize the fact that the SJW thinking being a man is somehow shameful is just absurd. This is what happens when SJWs go too far.

[–]tallwheel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The reason these things shock them is because they've been told that doing such things is against the rules. They've worked hard to abide by those rules which they have been told makes them a gentleman. When they see someone blatantly violating those rules they seriously don't know how to react.

They will look on at attractive women who are with "assholes" instead of them and continue to repeat to themselves, "Why aren't these women with nice guys like me? I would treat them so well."

Some just don't want to get it. It would mean turning their whole belief system on its head. They don't call it the red pill for nothing.

[–]SnowVilli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like to think the best thing to do is to lead by example, if someone’s gonna take notes or come ask for advice then they actually want to change, if not, they would never have taken my advice had I offered it anyway.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Even if its not true, its funny. IF its true, its fucking hilarious.

[–]1alphasquatch50 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's true ... and funny ... and sad

[–]abdout77 58 points59 points  (2 children)

Honestly I find this more sad then Funny. This guy probably grew up with a beta dad or a single mom. However these kind of guys are impossible to help. I tried once and I still regret it to this day.

But I never understood how thiskind of guy finds a girl

[–]1alphasquatch50 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I'm teacher and try to guide the young men I meet in a different direction, but some seem destined to this type of behavior.

[–]spencerc25 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They just find someone as attractive as them. Plenty high amount of beta unattractive dudes get married. They "swoop up" all the women we don't want lmao

[–][deleted] 199 points200 points  (27 children)

Jesus Christ this reads like some poor fan fiction.

[–]alphasquatch50 1 points1 points [recovered]

Yeah, that's pretty accurate. LOL

[–]Fudimaar 46 points47 points  (18 children)

No. You're lying. What a blatant fabrication. I honestly think you might be Billy here

[–]VirginPlaya 15 points16 points  (13 children)

Nothing in the story, action wise, seems too out there. There're definitely dudes who act like Billy and like OP and women who are like Mindy.

The problem with posts like these come form the fact that OPs want to show off how big's their writer's prick and fluff their stories with unnecessary fictiony verbiage, instead of being concise expressing their point.

[–]daxxipro 33 points34 points  (12 children)

You mean OP made it interesting to read, instead of a boring case study? lmao.

[–]alphasquatch50 1 points1 points [recovered]

Wrong, but believe what you want.

[–]ComfortableBowl 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It might be fan fiction but it approximates my behavior a few years ago. I'd say 70% of the shit OP wrote about I did to a girl I liked from my workplace, I might as well be called an ex-Billy at this point.

[–]Fudimaar 2 points3 points  (3 children)

It's confirmed guys This is fan fan fiction for sure. Have a look at what big bad Billy Beta messaged me.

He's really an alpha eh guys? https://imgur.com/gallery/EdCFz

[–]BluPillMaster-bater 24 points25 points  (4 children)

I see this consistently with millennials. It's beyond eye rolling and some harmless mockery - it's concerning.

I'm in my 40s, and was thoroughly indoctrinated by feminism even though I had long since abandoned leftism. Because I had some masculine k-12 teachers (maybe 3 or 4), and other influences (as a boy with a single mom), I came out OK, albeit late.

These young guys haven't a clue. No masculine influence (DO YOU HEAR THEIR MUSIC?), little inclination to drive, treating women like masculine equals, but only by emasculating themselves. And they are convinced of their righteousness... and I am the dinosaur with my antiquated notions of gender. They do not simply disagree with me, they are vocally disgusted by me. For my career in tech, I've had to switch to covert agitation; i.e., no conservative/libertarian red flags, no disapproval of multiculturalism, etc..

I'm in the worst of it, north california, I keep that in mind when it seems utterly depressing. But as the young men advance, professionally, and politically, I suspect things will get much much worse.

Laugh and dismiss Billy as harmless and hapless! But what we really need to do is beat his ass after a few years of his involuntary celibacy. He's the enemy, women just do what they know.

[–]1alphasquatch50 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You are so correct. I had the urge to slap him, and not because he was smitten with my wife, but because I wanted to make his balls drop.

[–]bl1871 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Can you be involuntarily celebrate? My perspective you either make the choices not to be or you don't, the notion of involuntary does away with the whole idea of responsibility

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

As much as a hunter can be involuntarily hungry, yes.

[–]neverquitman 73 points74 points  (7 children)


If he was too use the gym, good friends, always working on himself, he would've fucked your wife.

Theres a quote that says this - "one is never safe from poverty or prison". I would add "one is never safe from their girls leaving". So instead of having fun talking of billy, you do you.

But yeah, thanks for the sharing. But I hardly learnt anything. You could have written this : Don't reciprocate and don't send gifts to girls before fucking. Don't tell them how sweet and nice they are before fucking. Don't go after the women if she doesn't reciprocate in several times.

[–]showerdudes9 1 points1 points [recovered]

This. OP thinks this is funny because its a real beta, but an alpha who wanted to fuck OPs wife would just do it, and she'd come home to OP with cum dripping from her legs giving OP sloppy seconds

[–]Shaman6624 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A picture tells more than a thousand words.

[–]1alphasquatch50 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I made the point that not self-improving can lead to situations like this. I doubt he, or anyone, could fuck her, but you never know.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Agree with you 100%. Without self-improvement will lead to LTR failure. I’ll have to say it’s nice to hear stories like this compared to the circle jerk that has been going on. +1 for the post that made me laugh and have a good feel instead of the usual eye roll I give.

[–]TheseNthose 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I'll pour some liqueur on the curb for good ol' Billy Blue Balls.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (15 children)

Billy would move mountains for Mandi. On some level that makes him more dangerous long term.

I can't be cheated on because I won't commit. Still.....I wonder, if I was cheated on, is it better to be some beta simp who orbits or some alpha who fucks her then leaves her alone.

[–]1alphasquatch50 9 points10 points  (14 children)

I an't imagine any woman cheating with someone like Billy.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (6 children)

That's why the Billy's are so dangerous.....yeah, he wouldn't rail her out on the down low, but Billy types have been known to elicit a branch swinging....which is why I say they can be more dangerous than an alpha who takes what he wants and moves on.

[–]1alphasquatch50 3 points4 points  (5 children)

hmmmmm .... she seems to see him as a tragic figure. I could be wrong

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You're probably right, and the story of looking him in the eye while smacking her ass then making them dance got me laughing out loud.....

I was kind of expanding the conversation, in a way. This particular guy is probably no threat, but beta providers will absolutely use providing as a means to get a woman to branch swing!

[–]1alphasquatch50 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I did it to mark my territory I suppose. And since I am a massive guy, I kinda felt like a bully afterwards. In retrospect, it seems unnecessary to taunt him.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

bah, it was funny, man, and not at all inappropriate, imo.

Every day that he doesn't go to the gym is another day of him deciding, or not deciding, who he wants to be.

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If he would talk to me I would try to help him out.

[–]banjew 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I smacked her ass hard, right in his face: he looked like he wanted to vomit.

That's how you get school shooters. He has oneitis, as the name says, it's a disease that I don't wish on my enemies.

[–]1alphasquatch50 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Yeah hope he doesn't go ... postal

[–]IronManAlan 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Billy needs to read the sidebar and lift

[–]savagepatchkid 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She needs to let him go lmao

That guy needs help

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (6 children)

Stay on top of your game.

You are always a few fuck ups, a bottle of wine, and isolation with Billy for Mandi to be on his dick.

[–]1alphasquatch50 10 points11 points  (5 children)

I would be really surprised if Mandi could feel Billy's dick, but I stay on top of my game just in case.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

By the way, what does your wife get out of allowing Billy to text her everyday?

If she is willing to get annoying texts from someone she doesn't like so easily, what does that say about her getting texts from someone she does like?

[–]psycho_pete 23 points24 points  (0 children)

She gets validation. A lot of women love beta orbiters and the validation they provide for them on top of the other shit, like gifts, using them as an emotional napkin, etc.

I'm not sure that's something I would tolerate out of a wife or any sort of serious relationship.

[–]mnhoops 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dude I couldn't agree more. There's nothing OK with another man texting your wife every day. I don't care what the situation is or what other excuses are out there.

[–]1alphasquatch50 9 points10 points  (0 children)

She does like him, almost in a maternal way. It's not as if he's a bad guy. She will occasionally show me a funny vid he sends. She simply does not view him in any sexual way. I have no evidence of her doing anything wrong with any guy since we met in 1985. I guess it's possible, but at almost 50yo seems unlikely.

[–]naIamgood 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Op is being egoistic here. You might see a day when one of these Billy turn out to alpha enough to fuck your wife and then you will come crying right back here. Be humble.

[–]1alphasquatch50 17 points18 points  (0 children)

After 33 years together, I kinda doubt it, but who knows?

[–]berlengas 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Dude pitching someone already dead is no fun. The real objective is to revive billy into something

[–]1alphasquatch50 18 points19 points  (0 children)

You guys have inspired me to take Billy fishing on Spring break.

[–]WolfofAnarchy 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I feel sorry for Billy. I've been there, it sucks. All men, no matter how emasculated, deserve to feel what it's like to be a real man of character, purpose and confidence.

[–]1alphasquatch50 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am actually gonna try to help him out.

[–]Minopo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good advice... I always end up my LTR's, because I don't like to deal with the crap of women having 20 Billies around. It's fucking annoyng having relationships and women still have 20 best friends from everywhere ( Cowork, ex schoolmates, ex coworks, gym, supermarket.. fuck sake!!! ) As soon as the honeymoon phase fades, the relationship always end up for me.

Don't understand this need to be in constant texting, constant comunicating with everyone.

[–]squiremarcus 1 points1 points [recovered]

was it dungeons and dragons? its the only group game that people devote their lives to. every other nerd game is either 1v1 or too casual to obsess over

[–]_fsun 2 points3 points  (2 children)

dude youre a fucking tool whos way too self conscious about appearing alpha. What a reasonable person would've done is make the dude feel better about himself, if anything, not like shit. Billy seems lame but youre just as lame.

[–]psycho_pete 0 points1 point  (1 child)

A bit blunt, but this is exactly what I was thinking. It's pretty evident that even in the OP's responses within the thread that he is really trying to appear alpha. I agree with your sentiment about being able to help the guy too. His wife certainly isn't doing that dude any favors either by continuing to feed him with her attention and time for so many fucking years, either.

I'm not sure why OP is OK with letting his wife stay in touch and give to Billy so much of her time, attention, and energy. Especially when Billy has made it very clear that he has an interest in OP's wife.

[–]1alphasquatch50 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually, all of these responses have made me reconsider the whole texting thing.

[–]victor_knight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Britannica, please include this under "Beta Orbiter".

[–]AshyBoneVR4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Billy and Mandi.... So you're Grim?

[–]mynamebazac 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I love the Billies in the world shows me two things the first one is a closed mouth doesnt get fed and the second is nice guys end up last every time. I have never had problems with women and im very vocal about what I want. I have known Billys all my life and they never change.

[–]1alphasquatch50 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wish they would all read the side-bar and lift.

[–]neverquitman 1 point2 points  (9 children)

One more thing OP.

Stay frosty!

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (8 children)

I guess I'm too slow/old to get this reference.

[–]comcain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Stay frosty..." -- Michael Biehn, Aliens

[–]neverquitman 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Definition: A valediction which has come to mean "be cool," but which more properly understood is an admonishment to stay alert and on one's toes.

I shouldn't care about all of this, because its too intimate but because you're on TRP, I'll give my cents. And because I deeply respect wrestlers and for me to sleep better at night. I would say, do the stuff that keeps her at her toes.

I.e Jocko Willink had a friend who added his wife (jockos) on facebook. Jocko was like; why is he in your contacts, and unfriended him. Back to your story, Some lines should not be crossed, and this guy is testing the waters.

Don't negotiate with thugs. He literally can be viewed as a thug. Using sly ways to drive a wedge: he is a fucking snake waiting when you relax.

[–]Throwaway_5252 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Threads like this make me hate TRP despite also agreeing with a fair amount of their viewpoints. The comments are full of gleeful sadism. YEah....Women are manipulative and ice cold towards betas, but men are sadistic and enjoy laughing at the misfortunion and misery of others, especially when it comes sexual prowess.

It's why I hang out alone. I don't need my "bros" calling me pussy, faggot and cuck every other second the minute I do something that doesn't fit the standards of the manosphere.

This indeed reads like fan-fiction.

[–]mnhoops 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Mandy hasn’t worked for that company in 5 years, but Billy still texts her every day.

Another man is texting your wife on the daily. That is not acceptable.

[–]1alphasquatch50 17 points18 points  (4 children)

I don't care ... just one of the girls to me.

[–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's acceptable when it's hilarious. :)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

That’s fucking sad. Why doesn’t she just block him?

[–]1alphasquatch50 6 points7 points  (5 children)

She's a nice lady and actually feels like she's encouraging him to grow up. She even hooked him up with a single friend, but his personality wrecked that

[–]psycho_pete 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I had an ex who would use this excuse all the time. "I'm just being nice." "He's just a friend!"

Fuck that noise. There was obviously more at play and those are usually bullshit responses and excuses. She would be helping him way more by moving on and not providing him with any of the attention he's seeking. She's aware about how he feels towards her, and continues to give him her attention and time.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Girls need validation like oxygen.

If they're not getting it from their current relationship they'll get it externally, via orbiters (see: billy).

[–]psycho_pete 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if they're getting it in their current relationship, a lot of chicks are whores for that attention and validation.

[–]1alphasquatch50 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Having met him, I truly believe she's just being nice.

[–]strikethrough123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At the end of the day, you can't blame them. Everyone around them tells them what they're doing is the right thing. They can't stare logic down in the face, they're too far gone at that point. Even if they see it unfold before them, they'll dismiss it as the exception. They'll stick to their years of conditioning because that's all they know how to do.

[–]Sumo94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did he hide his social anxiety?

[–]_HYFR_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol maybe he didn’t give a fuck to make small talk with you? If that were me at that table, I wouldn’t give a fuck about you and wouldn’t give two fucks to make dumbass “small talk” with someone I don’t give a fuck about / will never see again.

I’m not some beta queer though so if that were me at that table I’d actually pitty the fact you were married and feel sorry for you as I thought about what chick I’d be calling over afterwards to fuck and then not talk to again for a few weeks :) To each their own though.

[–]Seminko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not be the one to tell him what's going on? He obviously doesn't have a clue...

[–]mrHappyPotatoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I liked the smack on the ass part. It always gets em.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That is a guy with very serious problems in his life. You two are doing great to help him with his loneliness.

(It would be better yet if among your reasons for posting this, there wasn't a will to somehow have a good laugh at Billy's back.)

[–]1alphasquatch50 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I feel guilty for any laughing I have done. My main goal was to use Billy as a cautionary tale. I am now convince to try to help him.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

that's very cool, and I am not joking

[–]Rhalium 1 points1 points [recovered]

out of curiosity, what did mandi do when you smacked her ass?

[–]greatslyfer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sounds exaggerated, but true points still come across.

[–]1alphasquatch50 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually, I kinda left some anecdotes out.

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