Married man disparages marriage (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by alphasquatch50

As I have posted before, I have been married for 29 years and been with that same woman for a total of 33. I consider myself to be very happy. Having established that, let me state that I don’t believe marriage makes sense anymore.

I have been teaching high school for 24 years and I tell that to every young man I mentor. I told it to my own son, but he got married in October anyway—more on that later.

I know that AWALT is a good model. The A in AWALT is a cautionary metaphor and representation of statistical probability. I know that it has always been true, but it is truer now because there are so few social constraints on female behavior.

When I started dating my wife in 1985, a 16 year old girl who was known to be promiscuous was a social pariah. Make no mistake, many went to great lengths to conceal their promiscuity, but most girls tried to save themselves for marriage, or at least until they had a committed relationship, and a girl who cheated was an object of scorn.

There are several older Alpha’s who attend my small country church. The wisest of these, a Korean War veteran who won a Distinguished Service Cross and died about 5 years ago, often spoke about the old days, and he confirmed that girls in his day knew that their virtue was their greatest asset, and a woman could become “trash” for the slightest transgression. Again, I know that the biological tendency was extant even then, but religious and societal norms were more binding.

Those constrains are no more. I hear 16/17 year old girls in my classes bragging about their conquests and even comparing notes. I heard one pretty little blond Junior girl last week talking about her boyfriend who goes to another school and how he couldn’t “bring it” like her “other” boyfriend. There are no cultural consequences for such seemingly disgusting behavior. Note that I teach advanced placement classes in a school with an exemplary CCRPI score. I didn’t even hear that sort of chatter when I began teaching in a more urban school in 1994. Trust me, things have changed in the last 2 decades.

I gave this talk to my own son when he was but 14, but I think he wanted the relationship he saw at home. By the time he was 16 he was in a committed relationship with a cute little 16 year old classmate. They married at 22.

She seems nice, and I have heard nothing negative about her, but I couldn’t help looking at her in her beautiful white dress wondering if my boy hadn’t fucked up.

[–]anonanonetc 364 points365 points  (32 children)

Thank you for being a father.

[–]subaruguy14 118 points119 points  (29 children)

I was raised by a beta, the truth of life would have been apparent much sooner with wisdom like yours.

[–]1alphasquatch50 183 points184 points  (14 children)

Sometimes though, pussy makes wisdom hard to hear.

[–]judethedude 15 points16 points  (10 children)

Guilty of ignoring my dads wisdom in favour of temporary pleasure as well, perhaps this is the way it always is. Enjoyed your post.

[–]1alphasquatch50 24 points25 points  (9 children)

Thanks, I hope my boy doesn't pay a high price.

[–]rch7953 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Sadly enough most likely will.

My gfs kid is getting married this summer at 22. I am a firm believer that you need to wait until 26 at the earliest before getting married.

Told him to wait...got the invitations just yesterday.

[–]subaruguy14 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Men should marry between 28-32, women between 22-26 according to a social science study on leverage (SMV). I'll have to find it, it was done by Harvard.

[–]guiriri 8 points9 points  (3 children)

But why marrying in the first place?

[–]subaruguy14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone has different goals. Given that it's a Harvard study of ivy league brats, it's important to note they will largely pursue WASP goals.

[–]subaruguy14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone has different goals. Given that it's a Harvard study of ivy league brats, it's important to note they will largely pursue WASP goals.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Do you think hoping is enough? Do you have a game plan for when their marriage if it begins to fail? Do you know which offensive moves to make?

[–]1alphasquatch50 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My game plan is to use the failure to convince him to spin plates. He's a tall muscular firefighter ... he could drown in twat.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have assets that you want to pass on to your son and his potential children, you could take steps to protect them from divorce/her with a trust.

[–]1Yakatonker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Especially true, sometimes pain and the grit of experience are a far better teacher against a powerfully addictive drug, that being women.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 30 points31 points  (11 children)

Have you read OP's post?

I gave this talk to my own son when he was but 14, but I think he wanted the relationship he saw at home. By the time he was 16 he was in a committed relationship with a cute little 16 year old classmate. They married at 22.

While all of us wish we had found TRP earlier in life, if possible through a red pill father, the reality is that the pull of betadom is extremely strong. Even with a father sharing his red pill wisdom, you may have every well ended just as beta.

[–]1AuspexAO 11 points12 points  (7 children)

I know this goes against the whole purpose of sharing this philosophy with our fellow men, but do you think that TRP is something you have to come to after some hard times? I don't think I was ready to accept some truths until I got them beaten into me by life, and at 14 I was worshipping women.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I share your belief.

There are so many things conspiring to keep men plugged in the matrix:

  1. modern society hiding from you the ruthless nature of women's sexual strategy from the youngest age,

  2. a natural male desire to find in women (or at least in ONE) the unconditional love and support that makes life bearable,

  3. a natural propensity to be efficiently manipulated by women,


Most men are not ready to be unplugged from the matrix. They depend on it psychologically. Remember we are born in it and it sustains us.

Thus to accept the red pill, you need to have some serious cracks in your worldview already, which you typically get by being exposed again and again to some behavior of women that go against what you know of reality, making you ask "WTF is going on?!?". OP's son is typically too young to willingly take it.

TRP was a very different worldview to the one I had, and a dark one at that, so that I would have rejected it extremely fast, if it was not for the fact that this model explained ALL of my past experiences with women, which had puzzled me till then.

People have to be ready to be able to swallow it. Best you can do is give them the pill, and hope that they will want to take it. But you can't force it on them.

[–]1AuspexAO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Forcing a philosophy on someone is the last thing I want to do. I want to improve my own life, and I hope other men do too, but it's not my burden nor is it my desire to push anything on anyone.

[–]purplechairs 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Same. I ran into TRP a few years back in my beta days and was not a fan. It wasn’t until I hit rock bottom with my life when I started accepting TRP.

[–]pookie513 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The pain makes the reality real. Far easier to accept the truth after hearing it, once it's been experienced.

[–]Gozsayin1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Get point. I'm in my early 20s and at 17 I shit u not I thought women fucking saints/Angels, boy was I in for a surprise. However after finding TRP I tried to feed the info to my younger brother and he just isn't being receptive.

[–]1AuspexAO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Women are human. It's easy to say the Red Pill is "misogynist" because essentially it's about studying female behavior and using that knowledge to our advantage. I study a lot of things, and I don't hate anything that I invest my time in. I greatly enjoy women, but I don't deify them, nor do I allow them to determine my actions. Before TRP I was still a very smart man and had women tell me that all the time. However, they never told me, "I respect your dedication" until after TRP.

[–]1alphasquatch50 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I do have hopes that he will not slip into betadom

[–]Venny_1 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Don't just hope for that slip to never happen, guide him away for it.

He is a married man now, all well and done. What he needs is to maintain a high leveled frame so that his woman doesn't fancy herself a delve into hypergamy. I'm not sure how aware your son is of TRP principles, but it would behoof him to receive a perhaps greater nod in their direction, for his own sanity and health.

[–]1alphasquatch50 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We have that talk and I hope I have been a small example

[–]Jyontaitaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah you wouldn’t the biggest problem with all of this is most of us can’t be told we have experience and observe it for ourselves.

[–]THEDICKDEALER 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Seriously? That hit home brother

[–]Adamn27 1 points1 points [recovered]

AWALT is a good model [...] there are so few social constraints on female behavior.

This cannot be said better.

Lack of social constraints on female behavior in western society, which is slowly but surely got copied in other parts of the world.

The endless and borderless sexual freedom finally eradicates the classic family model. This will be a rough century for children to grow up with only one parent. Currently this information is known by few man, but surely this thing going to be a "global social case" for tomorrow's sociologists to work on a solution.

But they are already late.

[–]1alphasquatch50 26 points27 points  (14 children)

I can't see anything that would turn this dismal tide.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (3 children)

Economic collapse would work, but who really wants that?

[–]judethedude 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It almost seems fun but you see the rabbit hole that is the doomsday prepper mentality.

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Usually goes hand in hand with War. Everyone wants that.

[–]1AuspexAO 9 points10 points  (4 children)

I think it is possible to renegotiate the social contract. As men become more aware of the new reality of hypergamy, we will start being more restrictive about LTR/resource sharing relationships. Women may biologically crave multiple partners, but they are human beings that also crave stability. It's possible for the desire for a strong male who won't take shit will force a self-regulation. Just like I may crave stuffing pizza in my face hole, but regulate my behavior for social value reasons.

The desire to produce children with many strong males is hardwired, but social behavior is not. The answer is to educate men to demand higher social value LTRs. Of course, men who choose to be lazy and gamble with high count women can still do so and suffer the consequences. It's not like we should enforce it with law, ha ha. It's just a natural evolution of the social norm.

[–]1alphasquatch50 8 points9 points  (3 children)

So you're telling me there's a chance? ... hope you're right.

[–]1AuspexAO 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I'm not secretive with my beliefs and so I share them openly with the women in my life (yep, including PUA tricks, etc). I tell them exactly what I want from life and from them and most of them appreciate it and respect the way I want to live my life.

Honestly, the one thing that kind of got to me is that I had to red card a girl for expressing interest in a friend of hers. I was at dinner with the two of them and she was being flirty and shitty directly to my face. She was mad and self-entitled at first, but a few days later she called me very rationally and soft-spoken (not crying and wailing as per usual). She told me that she made a mistake and she respected me for letting her go. I didn't take her back, but I told her that she should remember that feeling for the next important man in her life. Part of me thinks that the cock carousel must be exhausting for these women.

Anyway, sad stories aside, I think there is still a desire for stability that can help mitigate the ape sex drive. Can we men hold strong and defeat hypergamy? I don't know the answer.

[–]1alphasquatch50 8 points9 points  (0 children)

when this sub reaches 250,000,000 I will believe.

[–]BewareTheOldMan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Part of me thinks that the cock carousel must be exhausting for these women.

...because it is.

At some point the steady rotation of different men "slamming" their male appendage in and out of your vagina becomes problematic.

Like most forbidden activities I suspect it's initially fun and exciting, but at some point you realize you're nothing more than a hole for some guy who wants to get his rocks off and not much more than that.

That realization has GOT to be humbling, disappointing, and frightening all at the same time. The ride and the steady steam of men lining up for the opportunity to have sex doesn't last forever - no pun intended.

That - and after all that time on the carousel NO man is likely interested in turning a (reformed) whore into a housewife. The only ones who will marry that type of woman is a low-quality male or one who has little to no experience or knowledge of modern women's behavior.

Good women are out there, but they are hard to find.

[–]Gozsayin1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Time, crisis,war, disasters, social reforms over time. These things all play a big part but when in the middle if it right now so it's hard to see the other side

[–]KeithRSRedPill 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Men taking over responsibility for birth control would eliminate much of the power that women presently have. Never leave birth control up to the woman unless your willing to give up a large chunk of your income while having very little say in the raising of the child that you didn't necessarily want. Trying to educate other men to the dangers associated with marriage can also be beneficial. Men voting, as demonstrated with Trump's defeat of Hillary, can also benefit the cause.

[–]1alphasquatch50 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All are steps in the right direction, but just baby steps.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

A complete breakdown of society is the only thing that will reverse this trend.

[–]p3n1x 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Lack of social constraints on female behavior

Unfortunately though, the same can be said about todays ultra weak males. There are no consequences today for being useless.

[–]VanityKings 26 points27 points  (8 children)

Girls bragging about sexual exploits at 16? Their parents must be so proud

[–]powerbaseballfan 17 points18 points  (3 children)

As a high school student you don't even understand buddy. Your brain would explode if you understood how max it is

[–]1empatheticapathetic 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Would love to hear the depths of depravity it gets to honestly

[–]Urishima 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aint nobody got time for that.

[–]ReadyPlayer15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao true..and I go to a Catholic school

[–]1alphasquatch50 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I hear it almost everyday

[–]1empatheticapathetic 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What else do they have to brag about?

[–]IvyExcess 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My first bj came at 15 from a catholic school girl at a Christian summer camp. I was the "summer fling" other guy to her coke dealer bf back home, was genuinely cocky/funny the entire 3 weeks we were together, and the first time we had alone in the dark away from counselors she attacked me.

[–]VanityKings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's mildly depressing. I would be ashamed of any daughters I have in the future if they were to slut it up, especially before they are even adults.

[–]Falconsbeardedchess 51 points52 points  (3 children)

You definately have to smart these days. I agree there is no real point in getting married unless you want a family. Even then its a crapshoot if that family will survive to see the kids get out of diapers much less College.

High count females maybe fucking material, but don't try making a housewife out of a slut. Never works. My Billy Beta days are lined with stupidity, none so more than my Ex Wife. Fucked her on the first date, got her pregs by the 2nd month. Of course I married her with red flags waiving all over the place, because I'm not going to run out on my child. Still, I should have worn a condom rather than trusting her with something like that. It took getting cucked by her to learn some valuable lessons. Now high count females disgust me so much, I wouldn't even touch them. I found a virgin, 10 years my junior and of course took it after some work. But you know, maybe I'm beta billy for saying this, but I respect her. No way I respect any high count slut.

Never marry one that fucks you on the first date. Never marry one with Chads littered in her past. Women themselves, don't even understand this because 'times have changed'. Except the male brain hasn't. It should be the equivalent of a male shit-test. Try to fuck her on the first date, if they fail and fuck you, you lose out on a possible LTR but atleast you get your dick wet. Its a win/win.

[–]1alphasquatch50 11 points12 points  (1 child)

This is so true, sorry you had to learn the hard way.

[–]Falconsbeardedchess 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, but it was for the best. I seem to only learn through trial and error. We are much better co-parents than spouses.

[–]ozenmacher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed, great way of saying it. It is a shit-test going both ways. She will test you and give you LMR or just completely shut down your advances: how do you react? In a weird way, the man who is ready for this will deep down respect her for it, and thus he will easily pass that test with flying colors (for the women who isn't a high N count slut). And my respect level goes up for her.

[–]askmrcia 40 points41 points  (2 children)

This was a good read. I grew up with a single mother so I became pretty close to my 6th grade male teacher and basketball coach in middle school. Kind of like a father figure sort of deal.

Funny story, he used to teach sex Ed and also held this after school program called the young gentleman's club. Basically he taught us how to become men and stuff.

One of first things he taught us was "chiverly is not dead" and how he used it to basically get his wife.

Ha well found out the hard way that was some bullshit by the time I got to high school (8th grade really) and wanted to call him out on it.

I ran into him last year which was the first time I've seen him in about 10 years. I told him most of what he taught us back in those days was bs.

He laughed and to my surprise, he agreed. Now he was still married to the same woman and he like you op, said he would not recommend any guy to get married in this day and age. He said if he could take most of what he taught us that year back he would. I think he realized just how much time has changed and now that he has two teenagers he is more aware how crazy society is now then when he was growing up.

I'm not complaining, it is what it is. But I believe most guys should really start visualizing how their futures will be without being married instead of dreaming of being a family man. Those times are gone.

[–]1alphasquatch50 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Most wouldn't believe the changes I've seen ... thanks

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And 80s-90s wasn’t even very long ago either. Pretty recently things were functioning within reason. Now it’s all fucked.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 14 points15 points  (5 children)

I like your posts. I'm older than most of the guys here, younger than you.

Do you really think in 1985 most women were waiting to get married? I think that really changed in the 60s and 70s. It's gotten worse but was already pretty far gone by then.

I couldn't work in the schools. Lunatics running the asylum.

Anytime I hear a milennial start to go on about how bad slut shaming is, I shake my head. You SHOULD be ashamed to be a slut. You're literally flushing the previous work of your ancestors and society down the toilet when you carry yourself like that and ride the cock carousel.

[–]1alphasquatch50 6 points7 points  (4 children)

I do believe most women in 85 wanted to wait ... some did.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I just think fast times at ridgemont high when I think of 1985. Not a virgin in sight

[–]Islam-Delenda-Est 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That was the future the media was propagandizing us towards - teens are as slutty now as hollywood films portrayed them 10-15 years ago, for any given value of 'now'.

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They were more common than now ... I'm sure of it

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 9 points10 points  (3 children)

a 16 year old girl who was known to be promiscuous was a social pariah.

Those are key words, because a lot of them were having sex.

[–]1alphasquatch50 22 points23 points  (2 children)

No doubt, but I believe the numbers were lower and the penalties higher.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Proper mothering taught most young ladies the value of discretion. It's like women have decided to relieve themselves of some of their most powerful tools--in this case the malleability of their truth.

That said, high value women could get away with slutting it up, or at least being more open about their sexuality. Thirsty men will still fuck them and women know their position in their hierarchies. That said, it could pose a problem for these women if an upstart wants to unseat their position at the table. Slut shaming was a powerful tool in female politics.

[–]ddiogenesofsinope 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As they should be

God I can't imagine what you guys would have thought to know that all cultural restraints on promiscuity would be wiped out like this

[–]hdosnxbjdjeb 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Western women are literally the worst marriage partners. They just aren’t raised right. Any man who knows about women and respects himself wouldn’t dare marry a girl who puts naked pics on Instagram, fucks on the first date, has a high sex count, seeks validation, drinks like a fish, etc. Those women are the only ones I’ll objectify. They are literally just holes to be used for any self respecting MAN. A pump and dump. Nothing more, maybe less.

You need a woman with traditional values. Traditional isn’t being completely immersed in culture, wanting sex only once a year, never talking back. Traditional means being womanly, feminine. Her molding herself to be a representation of you, acting on you, being a part of you, being loyal, loving, good mothers. Think marriages when women didn’t work.

A western women with traditional values in her prime is a unicorn. Damn impossible to find. But they exist. The amount of willpower it would take a for an attractive girl to resist temptation multiple times when her friends around her are having the best time of their lives is insane. Almost no girl can do that. But sometimes, when the stars align, there’s going to be one that coincidentally had a good upbringing, hot, and good values instilled in her. Don’t place your bets.

Now eastern women are mostly traditional. It’s highly unlikely they’ll leave you even if someone better shows up UNLESS you treat them wrong. Only you can fuck this up. Indian, Japanese, Chinese,Thai, etc. all these girls aren’t usually westernized and are therefore UNLIKELY (still possible but less likely) to cheat. They make great mothers, are submissive, are FEMININE, not this feminist bullshit about not needing a man. Most of the time it’s you who can fuck things up. Here all you have to do is fuck her good, display red pill qualities, keep improving (dread).

If you really plan to get married, at least develop self respect and find a traditional girl.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Damn impossible to find. But they exist.

And if they do, most likely they're ugly.

eastern women are mostly traditional.

Perhaps, But don't bring her to the west to find out....

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I mean, you'll have a good partner, probably, but if you want children, she doesn't have a family support network, the genetics are worse for mixed race children, particularly if ever needing an organ, as finding genetic match is pretty damn impossible and as character derives for good part from genes, even besides culturally, it'll be a child between worlds.

On top of that there's the subtle, biological perception from both ethnic groups that you are not really like them, for the kid.

I'm not saying don't do it. But consider the cost.

[–]hdosnxbjdjeb 5 points6 points  (2 children)

“On top of that there's the subtle, biological perception from both ethnic groups that you are not really like them, for the kid.”

Yea this one is the most concerning for me. I get what you mean. I can see someone feeling alienated. But then again, that is your son/daughter. Usually the love for your children overrides that, unless you’re a shitty parent

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No not between you and your child. That bond is stronger. It's a question of finding peers. For the kid.

I live in a country that has culturally removed those barriers on racism and tribalism just about as far as possible, but when I see kids form groups and cliques it's still mostly around ethnic lines (as well as personality). Mixed kids are a group of misfits together in a sense.

I also speak from experience, but it didn't really click for me until I read about biological ethnic tribalism, after which it was a rapid number of lightbulb moments about my past.

[–]hdosnxbjdjeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s your take on the US?

Where do you live?

I think as you get to high school, those barriers usually get removed unless you’re terribly ugly or something. People tend to form groups based on status and how likable you are. Everything gets even more mixed together when you’re in college

[–]megamanxtc 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If you had (or have) a daughter, what advice do you give her in this day and age?

[–]1alphasquatch50 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I don't and don't even want to imagine it. I have told female students who who have solicited my opinion that the price of a virtuous woman is "far above rubies." They can Google this themselves as I have never felt comfortable speaking about such matters to females.

[–]wander_company 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Why aint this guy endorsed yet? Good shit man keep it coming

[–]1alphasquatch50 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks ... maybe the mods will pick this up

[–]U-94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Married at 22 is a fuck up in every scenario except maybe as a farmer who recently inherited a large plot of land in the 19th century.

[–]Cthula-Hoops 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You're a good dad and a really good man.

[–]abdout77 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I think that all the thing that feminist do are some kind of giant Shit test for men in society, and since there are more and more betas, we can't "pass" those. Women may be more emotional then logical but there's no way they would do crap such as saying that there are "more then two genders" for a reason other then testing them.

that's why most male feminists are betas, and I would even say Omegas.

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not even sure they would register on the Alpha-omega scale.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, you are a great father. We need more men like you.

[–]DennyBenny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wonder today if I should have got married over 34 years ago. I married a younger woman. She is six years younger and we do not share much in common besides our kids. They are both older now and moved out. I am not happy, but a divorce would be a financial drain for both of us unless I can talk her into a easy split.

We had not planned on getting married, it just happened for health insurance for the kids. To be honest the only thing I have to show are two great sons. No longer is there much we do together other than travel.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am of the opinion that while people should get married, it doesn't make sense these days because there aren't women worth marrying anymore.

The reason is that marriage has its roots in religion. The idea of marriage started that way. If you didn't get married and had sex, you'd be an adulterer and had to deal with the laws of adultery. Nowadays, people are further from their religions as ever, and there's no adultery laws anymore, so what's the point (especially if you don't follow your religion/don't have a religion)?

[–]CharGoldun 1 points1 points [recovered]

You sound like a prude who married his first girlfriend.

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Third girlfriend, but yeah, kinda.

[–]HoundDogs 1 points1 points [recovered]

The more I read, all I want to do is help improve this. Every instinct I have tells me that we are barreling down a path that is so destructive to the future of human physical and emotional health. Witnessing these changes and others just leaves me confounded. There are so many questions rattling around in my head that each day I find myself to be less certain than the last.

Those constrains are no more. I hear 16/17 year old girls in my classes bragging about their conquests and even comparing notes. I heard one pretty little blond Junior girl last week talking about her boyfriend who goes to another school and how he couldn’t “bring it” like her “other” boyfriend.

Perfect example. Leaving discussions of right/wrong....what on earth grabbed hold of women in such a short period of time? Do people really not realize the enormous cultural impact this is going to have?

Are these changes you mention simply an unforeseen consequence of a technological improvement? Is it a loss of religion and an inability for us to insert a moral framework in what religion left behind? Are these changes planned and intentional from some shadowy group with nefarious motives? If we want to help in some small way, each one of these things would lead to a diagnosis and treatment of the problem different than the last.

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'm not sure what is behind it all or if my view is skewed by the fact that girls are just more open about things they once cloistered. I fear the worst.

[–]destraht 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I've lived on four continents and I've lived in funny post-communist countries. I focus on tax revenue and figuring out how everything is structured. In Eastern Europe you can be free as fuck in reality because the common people have been clipped and don't buck the system much. In the future as they become more independent the system will compensate by being more in their face. In America most of the tyranny has been attached to women and this is why I completely avoid them (when I'm there). I think that American and European women subconsciously know their role in fucking everything up for the man and they are drunk with power.

[edit] Apologies for sounding robotic. I'm healing up from an epic wine party.

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sounded clear to me ... American female know they have the power of the multitudes of males who have to compete.

[–]destraht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish my motor skills were as good as my writing skills right now. Its definitely not all there for me.

[–]RedPilledRoaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So true man. So fuckin true.

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you'll find this extremely thought provoking OP

I'm around your age and I find this weird 'divide' between people currently under 35yo and the people over 50yo is rather extreme, due to these differences in behaviors they have, as he describes in the video

Esp the way they live via and 'expose themselves' to the world through their 'filtered' social media which shows only the 'good stuff' and gives them a great way to believe their on bullshit! In the mean time these smart friendly kids don't know how to talk to each other.

It's crazy, me, an 'old guy' can usually strike up a fairly intelligent conversation with the average 20 something but they can't do it with each other ... the 'unseen peers' pressure of social media judgement is too great!

[–]Dickyballz 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I’m surprised with the moral indignation being thrown around in the comments. There isn’t anything wrong with female promiscuity. Promiscuity is victimless if the two people are engaged in consensual sexual acts together.

So what’s going on here? Why is everyone upset that young girls and women are having a good time and having sex? I think if we suspend our moral outrage—which probably stems from the fact that we aren’t all slaying at an epic rate—we can see that the reason we are against female promiscuity is practical and not moral.

Female promiscuity would be amazing if women could love every man as is: the physically imposing man gives her the rough stuff; the meek man gives her the soft stuff; the smart guy gives her the googled techniques; and every man is appreciated for his unique self. But we all know this is not the world we live in.

The problem is women’s love is not distributed fairly. The societies that created a moral code that more fairly distributed sex were more successful. We no longer live in a world (in the USA at least) where that traditional moral code is in force. There doesn’t seem to be anything wrong with that except that successful societies don’t operate that way. It’s not wrong for women to be promiscuous, and don’t let your jealously of how they live their lives color your judgement about that.

Live in this world. Don’t get mad at 16 year old girls for living in this world. Forgive yourself for your failing and be the man you want to be.

[–]CptCampi 5 points6 points  (1 child)

What kind of bonobo shit is that. This is the reason men must swallow the red pill.

[–]Dickyballz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A stank, steaming pile of bonobo shit is a great reason to swallow indeed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where did you go?? The girls at my high school were very promiscuous.

Well to be fair, so were the guys.

[–]p3n1x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They married at 22.

Their brains aren't even fully developed yet.

[–]FrontloadPain 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Awesome post. Haven't read a post that hit home as hard as this in a long time. I'm an aspiring teacher myself and have a few rather specific questions: How do you mentor young men while staying under the radar of sjws and similar minded people? Does the lack of social constraints in women you talk about manifest itself in an altered behavior in school and especially in interactions with teachers? Is there more advice for a red-pilled teacher to be you'd like to share?

[–]1alphasquatch50 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a teacher, you will develop mentoring type relationships with boys and if you carry yourself right, they will flock to you for advice. Many either have no father or a denuded one and they realize that the SJW advice is bullshit. As a rule, girls are better students in the current system, even the most outlandish ones because the system is set up FOR them as anything masculine is now verboten including the removal of work training like construction, auto-shop etc. Just be yourself and answer the boy's questions with your honest opinion, and they will beat a proverbial path to your door. As an addendum, since it is not my primary job, I never have and never would offer unsolicited advice, but if someone asks what I think, I have no compunction about sharing. Always use appropriate vocabulary.

[–]halfback910 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Marrying at 22 without dating ANYONE else?

I can see that ending badly. Hope it doesn't. At least he'll have a good dad to help him if it does.

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The odds of long-term success are very low.

[–]sc1690 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have a ten year old son. I take a very keen interest in his academic learnings and pay for LOTS of sports which luckily he excels in. When puberty kicks in I'm showing him two things.

1, The Red Pill

2, The Weights Bench.

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good start ... then I might add the Constitution

[–]RealistCampaign 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You sure you read the bible?

[–]1alphasquatch50 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Many times, but make no claims about its divine authorship and no claim to following its moral precepts.

[–]RealistCampaign 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Well that makes sense as to why your views on marriage are so bleak.

[–]1alphasquatch50 1 point2 points  (1 child)

... and I have the best wife ever

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Time for some nice delicious 15 year old pussy. Chill out, I'm not 20 yet. And some of these 15 year olds are just too good to pass up. That's the real redpill.

[–]PatnarDannesman -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Any man that commits these days is practically committing suicide.

I advise all men to get into a high paying job, stay single and treat women as the trash they are.

[–]sjdfhskdjfh 1 points1 points [recovered]

I've dated a bunch of girls who had more sexual experience by the time they graduated high school than I did at 28. I'm talking threesomes, lesbian experiences, one night stands, public sex, sex on MDMA, etc. It's pretty shocking... and really disappointing because that's not the type of girl I want raising my children. Unfortunately it's so common now, I'm not sure I'll ever find a girl with a modest enough past to marry.

[–]re4d3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the past, fathers cared that their daughters would stay in decent state in order to get a decent man. Dunno what today's fathers think.

Nothing will change, until fathers don't start caring again, that their daughters marry young and virgins.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

25 + 29 = 54

Did I get that right?

[–]alphasquatch50 1 points1 points [recovered]

I was born in 68. Wife in 69. Son in 95. Started teaching in 94. Met wife in 85. Married wife in 89.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

Okay I was just making sure I'm not listening to a boomer. Thank you for confirming you aren't one. They are over by now 65 usually. Can't stand them with their fantasy world. Will check your other posts too thx.

[–]1alphasquatch50 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I am new here and am just trying to relate things I have learned.

[–]BigMawsmidget 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You'll be surprised some sound exactly like him. Hell a guy I work with who is 60 he even coaches me to not get married, and I truly consider this guy an AF because he's his own man, and don't give a shit about what you might think of him.