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Blue Pill ExampleUPDATE on how I (35m) lied to myself about taking TRP, while still being totally plugged in, and about to marry a crazy, manipulative, narcissistic, bitch (28f) (self.TheRedPill)

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This is an update to this thread http://archive.li/p3rwY

The ride, although I realize now, merely at the very beginning, has been somewhat of a roller coaster of emotions. One the one hand, it has been humbling. More so, it feels like a purge of old ideas and conceptions, like I've been totally reset to a state where I am now presented with a bunch of bits and pieces of what I was, and now I have to put it all back together into a person. I still am kind of at odds as to what's my direction exactly, but it's fine. Because on the other hand, this feeling is exhilarating. I don't want to be poetic and cliche but I do honestly feel happy for the first time in years. It's like I was born again. I am more at ease with reality and myself, I take more pleasure out of the little things than I ever did. I feel alive and confident.

Last Sunday I went home and told her I want to break up. She wouldn't have it, cried her eyes off, pleaded, promised the whole nine yards. But I was committed to dumping her. Still didn't have the power to physically grab her by the shoulders and throw her out, so I kept saying I want to break up, she kept asking me to reconsider until we went to sleep. No sex was involved but she tried to hug me and cried a lot. Next morning I go to work, come home to the same exact scenario. Still wanted to dump her. She still wouldn't leave, I still couldn't actually throw her to the curb.

Next morning while she's at work, I pack some shit, take the dog to crash at my brother's for a couple of nights. So I'm off to work for the day and I text her she has 2 days to take all her shit out and leave. Then I went ahead and blocked her everywhere.

Two days, hundreds of messages of her asking for forgiveness and another chance later, she texts me she took everything and left.

So I take the dog and my shit and I go home.

While I was staying at my brother's I went back on Tinder and started making new friends on Facebook. I had been faithful to my ex for the entire time and I wanted to fuck. Started a few convos but wasn't prepared to to put in any considerable effort so I was only after easy pickings. Eventually I found on Facebook, a girl I had seen in a cafe a couple days earlier. I went for a quick beer and took a couple shots of her (i'm a photographer). So I send her a pic, start a convo, ask her over for a beer and she agrees.

She's this tiny 5 foot tall, 21 year old, 82 pound chick, kind of pretty with very nice boobs and a tiny little ass. I fuck her brains out, sleep it over and she's out. I felt nothing. The orgasm was ok, but I almost felt like I'd have been better off spending those few hours with myself. But hey, new pussy.

I signed a pre-contract to selling my studio apartment. I bought it in 2015 and am selling it now for a $5000 profit. I will be getting myself (and the doggo, too :) a bigger, nicer place.

I have a gym membership, started lifting about two weeks ago. At work I got another monthly bonus thing, so I guess I'm doing something good there as well.

I haven't spoken to or heard anything from the ex, nor do I have any such desire. I am finally confident I never want her or anything like this again, I realize it's been ENTIRELY my fault for allowing it to happen in the first place and surrendering any little power I had. I started listening to the Rational Male audiobook and my mind is blown.

Spring has come. I feel young. I feel powerful.","selftext_html":"

This is an update to this thread http://archive.li/p3rwY

The ride, although I realize now, merely at the very beginning, has been somewhat of a roller coaster of emotions. One the one hand, it has been humbling. More so, it feels like a purge of old ideas and conceptions, like I've been totally reset to a state where I am now presented with a bunch of bits and pieces of what I was, and now I have to put it all back together into a person. I still am kind of at odds as to what's my direction exactly, but it's fine. Because on the other hand, this feeling is exhilarating. I don't want to be poetic and cliche but I do honestly feel happy for the first time in years. It's like I was born again. I am more at ease with reality and myself, I take more pleasure out of the little things than I ever did. I feel alive and confident.

Last Sunday I went home and told her I want to break up. She wouldn't have it, cried her eyes off, pleaded, promised the whole nine yards. But I was committed to dumping her. Still didn't have the power to physically grab her by the shoulders and throw her out, so I kept saying I want to break up, she kept asking me to reconsider until we went to sleep. No sex was involved but she tried to hug me and cried a lot. Next morning I go to work, come home to the same exact scenario. Still wanted to dump her. She still wouldn't leave, I still couldn't actually throw her to the curb.

Next morning while she's at work, I pack some shit, take the dog to crash at my brother's f


[–]SKRedPill 113 points114 points  (12 children)

Good for you OP. You can't imagine how fucked up you would have been had you had kids in this kind of an environment, and how fucked up the kids would have ended up. In fact, I'd say never even consider having kids outside of a healthy marriage. Rollo Tomassi was himself in a relationship with a borderline once (and I myself might surely have been), and it still gives him chills to write about it (and damn, I woke up with nightmares of being beaten and strangled...)

https://therationalmale.com/2012/01/20/borderline-personality-disorder/

It's strange how much women, no matter how much they loathe every fiber of your being, start pleading and crying and what not when they think you're going to leave. When you were the one pleading, she'd have treated you like a POS with a smugness and hate you couldn't believe a human was capable of (mine did).

In that aspect, men are so much more dignified (and sane) in upfront asking the woman to leave and that's that.

Like I wrote elsewhere, when you change, all your relationships change. Any relationship where you were the doormat beta will either have to change completely or it'll be sent to a long overdue grave.

[–]_paperTiger 1 points1 points [recovered]

When you were the one pleading, she'd have treated you like a POS with a smugness and hate you couldn't believe a human was capable of (mine did).

This is what ultimately made me decide to check-out this sub. A mentally ill ex had broken up with me and I had never tried to do the mature thing by remaining on friendly terms with an ex, so I tried it.

Keep in mind I had never done anything offensive when we were together. Never yelled, never insulted, never flirted with someone else or fooled around. I was a committed and affection person.

Those months of friendship were the most cold and degrading in my life. Her left-fielded awfulness grew without bound, and I realized she was more of a spoiled asshole than she was mentally ill. You'll never know the extent of someone's selfishness until you see how they treat you after you have nothing left to offer them.

I could write an erotic novel about how good and whole I felt after I had told her to fuck-off. After that I decided to check-out this sub and now I'm finding people with similar experiences. It helps.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

One of my personal philosophies is to never be nice to people because in my experience they never reward you for it. You can be diplomatic, sure, and you can listen to them because listening is THE BEST way to get information out of people and they'll end up liking you more for it, but never just "be nice" to people. Dont force a smile, let it come naturally. Always, always be ready to cut someone off and always be ready to punish them if they do something bad.

[–]whatever11111111 1 points1 points [recovered]

Exact same thing for me with my diagnosed bipolar ex, tried to be friends, we were childhood bestfriends afterall, but her attitude towards me, like she was above me and I was a bag of garbage she had discarded... I will never let anyone behave that way towards me again.

[–]stickythestick87 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My sister has diagnosed BPD and is a real danger to herself, but the only person she fixates on is our mother. Her dating life is weirdly RP - she goes out with foreign guys for a few months at a time and uses them to travel the world while they keep spending money in the hopes of getting green cards at some point. I've talked to her about it and she says she doesn't ever want to live with a man, but that doesn't mean she can't have fun outside of the house. She's never dated with an aim to relationships. So not all BPDs fixate on the thought of LTRs saving them. But obviously watch out for the ones that do.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

In fact, I'd say never even consider having kids outside of a healthy marriage

This is insanity. The only difference marriage makes is that you are offering the mother MONEY TO BREAK UP THE FAMILY.

She is more incentivised to stay if she is NOT married to you, that way there is no payout to her for breaking up the family.

"Healthy Marriage" just means "she hasn't cashed in her chips yet". Of course you want a healthy relationship, but marriage? Fuck that shit. Why pay her to leave you and destroy your family?

A marriage offers a woman zero inventive and motivation to stay, but a very significant one to leave. Don't believe the blue pill myth that marriage makes her more likely to stay around. It doesn't because there is no benefit to her doing so.

[–]SKRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess the American situation is worse than I thought then. Well, where I'm from, at least people still know that men should be men (despite the fact that they aren't all the way alpha) and that women aren't saints just because they're born women...

I'm waiting for the coming population implosion and economic decline. See, nothing can fix the economy when there isn't enough demand. Hopefully the marketing managers will think of creating a market before managing it.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's strange how much women, no matter how much they loathe every fiber of your being, start pleading and crying and what not when they think you're going to leave. When you were the one pleading, she'd have treated you like a POS with a smugness and hate you couldn't believe a human was capable of (mine did).

This is someting I was wondering about as well.

A once-friend of mine had such a GF who did the whole shebang - emotionally abused him, belittled him, withheld sex, threatened him with a breakup etc. all because he wasn't like she wanted him to be. When he broke down after a fight - which happened quite regularly, because he lacked the backbone to stand up to her, and more importantly, was literally incapable to not resolve a fight and would rather give in against his better judgement (which means that he had lost by default because all it took for her to win every argument was threatening that she would leave him) - she informed him at length about how much she despised him when cried.

But when another woman who fancied him communicated her interest in him and then managed to break him away from her, things changed. First she tried it with threats and pressure (because she was aware that she was about to lose him). but when she realized that shit got real, she slowly changed her attitude. And lo and behold, when he declared his intention to break up with her, suddenly his (now ex)GF was all pleading and begging and informed him at length how she loved him (a lie) and only him and how she didn't want to lose him and she never meant to imply she wanted to leave him (an even bigger lie) and that she never wanted to change him (the biggest lie of all). She even offered him to tolerate him sleeping with other women (she wasn't horny enough to do the job herself, but suddenly she realized that a man might still have needs).

My 2? It would have been so much easier to simply break up with him after realizing that he wasn't what she wanted or, if that wasn't on the table (I blame her clinginess on the fact that he was her first real boyfriend), to try to mend their relationship, but apparently she was incapable to admit that for once she had lost, that she was the weaker one in the relationship and that he was the one who could walk away, not her. I am pretty confident that had she managed to change his mind, she would have gradually fallen back into her old behavior and then when he was at his lowest, she would have broken up with him.

[–]zestytacoz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's amazing, my ex treated me like shit and threatened to break up the relationship many times, and when I decided to end that sham of a relationship, she begged for another chance and wanted to talk things over.

Never again.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 41 points42 points  (6 children)

Well done. Glad to hear you made the right decision in the end and took action. Things are looking up for you already.

I went back and scanned your original post and wanted to point this section out:

At one point she threatened to leave me, claiming her time is better spent trying to make it work from scratch with another man, than waiting for me to make up my mind.

Your ex was 100% correct here and this should have turned on a light bulb in your head. Not married and have no kids? It'll never be easier to leave. Once you're married, it becomes very difficult. Once you have kids, you can never really leave.

Imagine how difficult it would have been to work through all the issues with your ex. It would have taken years of hard work and discussion. Even on the minuscule chance that you're able to resolve all your issues and develop the perfect relationship, you would have still had resentment for all the pain she caused you before and she would have resented you for the issues that you had in the past. Now compare this to breaking up with her and having a clean start with a new woman that doesn't need years of therapy to work through her issues.

This doesn't mean that you should ditch your LTR at the first sign of trouble. It does mean that you should ditch your LTR (while you have the chance) when you realize there are serious compatibility issues that are not your fault.

I fuck her brains out, sleep it over and she's out. I felt nothing.

This is IMAO the best way to start a relationship. Start off with a nice fuck-buddy relationship and gradually find out if she is a great person. Why not do it the other way around and find out if she is a great person first? Because sexual compatibility is king in a relationship.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why not do it the other way around and find out if she is a great person first? Because sexual compatibility is king in a relationship.

This is golden advice, spoken from experience.

[–]25toten 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sexual compatibility is one of three critical components, the other two being an intellectual and emotional connection. Each person, of course, requires varying amounts of the three. As a guy who swallowed the pill a few months ago, sex still means next to nothing for me. It's all about intellectual connection personally.

[–]SKRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't forget the spiritual. If there are too many red flags on your belief systems (not necessary religious, I mean everything).

Those things matter more in an LTR or a marriage. If it's just sex, all that matters is SMV.

[–]DownvoteIfULuvTrump 1 point2 points  (1 child)

sexual compatibility

Garbage.

If you have a penis and she has a vagina then you are sexually compatible. Everything else is personality, mental, and emotional compatibility. You sound like the roasties in their 30's and 40's who have slept with dozens of men because they needed to see if they were sexually compatible first. No, they didn't, it just lowered their value and their ability to pair bond.

One of the main tenents of the red pill is to leave a girl better than you found her. A girl with a partner count of N is better than a girl with a count of N+1. If you're making girls less valuable to find out something as bullshit as 'sexual compatibility' with the option to drop them the very next day you are objectively making the world worse for those women and for all men. You have the freedom to do this all you want and have no obligation to care about other men, but don't kid yourself that this is the best way to start a relationship.

[–]max-million 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was in a 5 year on again, off again relationship in which she broke up with me 10+ times and then a month later would want to get back together (being naive, I would get back together with her). When I met her she was a mess, family problems, changed her major 4 times in college, no idea what she wanted in life.

I finally broke up with her (couldn't take the bullshit anymore of breaking up and getting back together). She is now finishing her Master's in English (I'm finishing Master's in Computer Science) and she actually has goals set in her life and is moving forward. How's that for making a girl better for the next guy? Wish I hadn't wasted 5 years of my life fixing her life though. lol

[–]fromthecrypt8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally agree

[–]DandBPrime 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I cant believe this is the same guy...

[–]blackswans042 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A lot of information take time to be processed, even though they were immediately acknowledged

[–]Spurius85 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I am happy for you. I am glad that you are continuing to learn male/female dynamics. However, my grandest hope for you is that you continue to develop your lifestyle and your mindset to the point where you begin to see yourself as truly valuable. I think for many redpill men this is difficult because the truth tends to defeat them or narrow their focus to just women.

I also wanted to compliment your photography. I saw some of your work after my first post. That's a phenomenal skill and I hope you channel your experiences past, present, and future into your work. Since you're the creative type you'll be able to see your art change as you change.

Thank you for sharing your story, good luck man.

[–]WISE_TURD 15 points16 points  (2 children)

If you find trp while in an ltr, you pretty much have to end that relationship in order to fully swallow the pill.

[–]danoranika 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bittersweet but true. There's a part of you that thinks you can save it but instead of appreciating you being cooler, she freaks out cause she can't control you and you have to next her.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Many here told you your having been redpilled was a delusion, and the report of your moves and acts with her yelled "I am a beta! Please deign to accept my service" from every spot.

Soon as you stop obeying, the agitation and anger will make them lose their mask. Stare fixedly then; enough to make sure you won't forget their real face (= their face when they are not in acquisition mode, bent over acquiring a male either sexually or socio-financially).

Then, as you have tried enough of them, a refrain will sound in your mind "It wasn't just that one. AWALT."

That's not an end. It is in fact, where everything begins for you.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

don't want to be poetic and cliche but I do honestly feel happy for the first time in years.

Unlike women, men usually claim their happiness very rarely — because they don't have as a hobby of theirs the grotesque form of play-acting that is exhibiting fake happinness (and wellness).

So, there's nothing clichey about that phrase, and it made me happy and feel alive to read it. Always share these moments. If females share their fake good moments all the time, polluting the Internet and their conversation to the point that whatever genuine may be there is impossible to recognize, the least a man can do is share is genuine good times.

[–]RandyBumgardner85 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Good. It sounds like you are finally becoming a man. I noticed in your post history that you went over to RPW and tried to get them to convert your horrible cunt of a fiancé into a nice, submissive partner. This shows to me that you really did have your head right up your ass. I've been there. You have a long, long way to go and if I were you I would not even consider entering another LTR until you have fucked/plated at least another 30 chicks.

Be aware that your fiancé will come back at you. It may be days, weeks, months or years but you haven't heard the last from her. She will come offering an olive branch, wanting to "just talk as friends" or have a one off fuck or something.

This is a trap. Do NOT fucking take the bait. NEVER communicate with her again.

[–]WholesomeAwesome -1 points0 points  (0 children)

lol what is there to going over at RPW? haha

[–]WalterEArmstrong 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Stick to your guns and live a much better life.

[–]Hyper_Sonik 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I remember your post. And we all had doubts that you would follow through. Good job, it's just the beginning. We're proud of you.

[–]zerosapte 1 points1 points [recovered]

I do feel lucky. Imagine if the 3 months that we tried to conceive had actually paid off. Fuck.

I dodged a bullet here.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I dodged a bullet here.

I mean, for real, fuck how you feel Fuck your two cents if it ain't goin' towards the bill Yeah, and everyday I wake up celebratin' shit Why? ‘Cause I just dodged a bullet from a crazy bitch I stuck to my guns, that's what made me rich That's what put me on, that's what got me here That's what made me this

The Poet-Philosopher Big Sean

[–]Two_kids_in_a_coat 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Heh, proud of you man. I remember reading your original message thinking that this little faggot is too far gone and even funnier was how you asked RPW to talk her into not being a bitch. They shut that shit down quick.

It’s not easy, but I think we all need to get kicked in the balls hard by a women to really understand red pill truths. But once your eyes open you can finally start down the right path. This is only the beginning. Keep reading, keep lifting and find your goals. Never let pussy stand in the way and you’ll get more pussy then you know what to do with.

[–]zerosapte 1 points1 points [recovered]

"even funnier was how you asked RPW to talk her into not being a bitch. They shut that shit down quick."

Innit, mate, that was rather stupid on my part.

[–]WholesomeAwesome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

can you link to it? why would they shut it down quick? lol

[–]grewapair 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I swallowed the Red Pill on my own (pre internet) and canceled my wedding with ten days to go before the blessed event. One of the smartest things I ever did.

Here's most of what you need to know: everyone is trying to use you for their own purposes. Everyone. Your gf will do it slowly so you don't notice. When I looked up, we were planning the life she wanted to lead, not the one I did.

Will a woman be your partner? If a woman like that exists, I've never met her. They just try to use you. Act accordingly and NEVER fall in love with one, or believe the Disney lie, or you're done.

[–]FlamingAmmosexual 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here's most of what you need to know: everyone is trying to use you for their own purposes. Everyone. Your gf will do it slowly so you don't notice.

Bingo.

When I looked up, we were planning the life she wanted to lead, not the one I did.

That's something many don't see until they're older sadly. I have many friends now telling me "I wish I could do X" when I tell them about something and it hits me that they're complete slaves to their wives despite making all the money.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I realize it's been ENTIRELY my fault for allowing it to happen in the first place and surrendering any little power I had

You will never ever in your life learn any more valuable lesson than this. Everything you let happen in your life is entirely your fault. There is only one thing you can control (at least to some extend): yourself. Nothing else. So take that little bit of control and execute it.

(sorry, I tried linking but a bot removed the post)

Use http://archive.today

[–]SKRedPill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At the same time, let him not totally blame himself. Responsibility is entirely his - the fault need not be. Women aren't some kind of saint that left you only because you were the damaged one. They're no less damaged (and never more than they are today).

It is entirely up to you what happens in the things over which you can influence and create. Many other things however, cannot be controlled, but we can choose the best way to respond to them.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good stuff my man! Liberating, what? And while you're correct that it was your fault, this woman was also a bad match. Go spin plates. That's really key. I have a fantastic woman, but she was one of four or five plates at one point. Pussy is bountiful. Remember that.

Good on you.

[–]HeWeLoHaUnPeWi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Welcome! Im experiencing a simliar reality though how you've described it, that "phase" was only six months ago for me. It is quite exhilarating really and working nonstop forming a vision for yourself brings it together so much quicker. good luck, my friend!

[–]RedPillCoach 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Brother, let me remind you what you told us before.

But there are now other issues. She is depressed, doesn't have a job, sleeps a lot, belittles my job, starts pressuring me to find a better paying job, complains about all and everything, belittles my hobbies and interests, keeps yelling, keeps calling me names whenever we argue.

some things never changed. She is constantly nagging, constantly unhappy with our living conditions and that I own a dog and that she has to clean up dog hairs and that I can't find a better paying job. She always stabs right at my weaknesses, calls me incapable of being a provider, a proper man, every time we have an argument she loses it and yells and screams and throws tantrums and when I eventually give up trying to reason with her and I remove myself from the situation she claims it's my job to calm her down.

She always twists my words, always plays victim, always cries and accuses me of not caring because I'm unaffected by her tears. She often makes a point of rubbing it in that she makes more money that I do and what kind of man am I.

she breaks down and throws another tantrum, saying she can't stand my tiny studio apartment, she can't stand dog hair anymore, and suggests I euthanise him.

All of this is a super hard next. You gave this person several chances and she stayed in contact with her ex?

You should not only feel young and powerful! You should be FREE. You really, really dodged a bullet. Congratulations!

[–]naIamgood 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I read your stuff and the entire fault was yours. The alarms were ringing all over the place yet you went along with it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good stuff dude. Glad that you listened to the advice hear!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

After reading your original story, thank god you bailed out of the slow motion trainwreck you created for yourself.

One piece of advice, though - if you don't do some serious work on yourself to fix your low standards, low self-esteem, and the shitty way you expect and allow yourself to be treated, and the way you view and respond to situations in which you sabotage yourself, you are just going to attract more of the same and re-live the same disaster in each and every relationship you may find yourself in. Relationships tend to have a lock-and-key component; for every fucked up personality trait she had, you had a matching fucked up trait. These traits tend to reinforce each other and escalate. She treated you like shit and rejected you, you cried and begged and tried to win her back by sacrificing your dignity and offering her more committment. Leading her to look down on you more, and then you begged harder. You need to see and accept your own part in this and kill those personality traits, kill them with fire, before you ever think about LTR again. Hell, even if you go MGTOW you need to kill them.

[–]Aviolezt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So nice!

When I started breaking up with my girlfriend, she began promising all her problems will be fixed, you know, I mean she said all major problems in such articulate way that even I could not have said it. Even some I didn't mention (stupid I know) she said them too! That tipped the scales even more because it meant she knew very well what's wrong, she just didn't care enough to start fixing it (meanwhile I was trying), so I broke up with her and it was the best descision I've ever made.

I look back now and I'm grateful to myself for taking that descision. Good for you man!

[–]Jordonis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The original thread is EXACTLY like my ex to a fucking T it's scary.. I suppose there are allot of girls like this, but damn its like I'm reading my own story. Thx for the post OP GL to us both brotha.

[–]319Skew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Holy shit. I don't normally read long posts but I couldn't stop. You're ex fiancee sounds like my ex wife. Glad for you. Good thing you got out.

[–]VictxrSenpai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That first thread was such a hard read that I just stopped half way through. But Good for you OP

[–]blackbeardbastard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whenever a woman brings your dog into the fight and makes you choose between the dog and her ... it's the easiest choice ever bro.

Had the same shit going on, bitch nagging and not being happy for almost 5 years, whatever I did to make it work. It's just not worth it bro. The amount of work you put in a relationship to barely work, and that same amount of work if you put it in yourself, the results can't even begin to compare...

Good luck, keep on rocking!

[–]AshyLarry27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Congrats! Your journey is just starting though. You're only 35, you still have a lot you can accomplish with life and pussy to rail

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 1 point2 points  (7 children)

More details on the narcissism, please.

[–]zerosapte 1 points1 points [recovered]

Everything that mattered was how she felt, what she wanted, despite of everything else and often despite my very mental well-being.

Search my initial thread and read up, lots of details there. Painful ones at that.

[–]TruthSeekaaaaa 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Your initial thread was painful as hell and I recognize a lot of my recent woman. She never done anything for me, literally and I always felt the last man on Earth.

Narcisistic people simply cannot understand that, in any relationship, of any kind, 2 persons are involved.

May I ask you whether you are emotional invested? I mean, are you really sure you cherish a girl like that? IMHO there's only ego involved

[–]zerosapte 1 points1 points [recovered]

I don't know to be honest. I don't know if it was even love what I felt.

I'm sure though, that whatever it was it was mostly a self constructed delusion. Many many red flags should have been apparent two weeks in our dating.

[–]TruthSeekaaaaa 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I asked you that since I'm seeing a therapist who highlighted how I'm def not emotionally involved, but only my ego. Apparently I don't value myself high enough so I'm looking for validation from someone else, especially the girl I was seeing. Since she didn't value me, it become a quest to prove her wrong. Obv, you can see how fucked up my brain is/was

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that sounds similar to what I went through.

[–]paranoidinfidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still had your original thread open in a tab from 2 weeks ago. I refreshed and started replying to one comment but then thought I should go look for an update. I was glad to see this post.

I had a couple comments on one of your replies in there but won't bother as I think you've had some good introspection while letting that pill digest. Congratulations!

[–]megamanxtc 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What's the story behind the break-up and her apologies?

Regardless, sounds like you handled the entire situation very well. Aside from dating - just making other friends in general is a huge benefit.

[–]Bartand 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If she look too selfish you definitely ask for getting harm.

[–]Waffle_Sama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey man. It's great you're riding the wave of this, but it's only been about a week. I think you should strongly think about privately journaling this stuff. It seems like this post and your last could've been something private.

My concern for you is you're trying to convince yourself you're red pill and seeking validation from internet strangers.

I'm glad the final straw seemed to be your pooch. Fuck anyone that tells you to put your best friend down.

My advice: keep reading the red pill and journal privately. You'll look back and cringe at your earlier entries, but that should reinforce why you made the right decisions.

I hope you get away from this girl. Update us in 6 months. Good luck man.

[–]ElectricFagSwatter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats OP. Fuck that psycho, you're tough for lasting that long but you had to last that long in that toxic relationship to bring yourself to the point of RP'ing yourself. It all happened for a reason and look where you are now, doing way better. Enjoy life as a new man (;

[–]Rares5555 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Although I’m a younger wolf, almost hitting my 20’s, I feel like you have as much time as I do.

Live hard. Us men never seem to devaluate.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A brain/mind capable of reaching self-awareness — a part of "us men" then — can grow into something wiser and deeper year after year, knock-out after knock-out, decade after decade.

I know male writers whose best book they wrote in their late 60s, and even early 80s, and cinema directors who shot great works in their 90s!

[–]SultanPepe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

well done. But remember you're at the beginning. It's a good start though.

[–]ThisIsStan1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dog always comes first pussy second. That’s my rule.

[–]OfficerWade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing, bro. You stayed out of a bad relationship and got lucky. I will be watching you with great interest.

[–]Dark_T100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YESSS MY MAN. YES! YES!

Really glad you didnt do that to yourself my man. Remember when you're educating yourself here that the goal isnt to be angry, but to understand things as they exist and to use them to your maximum benefit.

Im really honestly happy reading your post, because its nice seeing yet another life wasnt destroyed by the cliche thinking of BP men. Im also glad that the breakup was as clean as it was

Let me tell you that you should still he careful though. Women are known to attempt extremelt crazy things after a breakup, like going to your house unannounced and trying to create a fake scene of assault to try to get you arrested, or even get some male friends of hers to jump and beat you.

Please be careful, as what i said is extremely more common than you think. That woman very likely will try to do something like this considerig how mentally sick she seemed.

[–]Trvspkt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi OP FYI so I’ve recently discovered narcissistic doesn’t mean what we think it means. I always thought it meant someone who is very sneaky/manipulative/selfish. But that’s not what it means. TRP actually enables some narcissistic traits however it does not make one a narcissist. Females constantly craving attention and lying is not narcissism it’s insecurity.

[–]Gozsayin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice dude. I read your last post and compared it to this one it's like night and day. Just my standing up for yourself that one time you have saved yourself from a live-long (hahaah) marriage to a cunt. P.s I think it's pretty save to say she left your house to go to the ex's. Which is good they deserve each other

[–]thirteen13onethree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every single man on earth needs to understand that marriage is not an option. If you get married, you lose. END OF STORY. If she loves you, she will stay with you without a ring on her finger...END OF STORY. THERE IS NO DBATE TO BE HAD ON THIS. MARRIAGE= YOU LOST. I dont care if you have kids either. Marriage is a losing game. Stop doing it. And if you get really Red Pill'd, you will recognize sex as a trap too.

[–]Retstortion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow thank god. That was pathetic She’s a whore

[–]ImHereAtLast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't mean to shit on your parade, but you might not be out of the woods yet.

Your psycho ex may try to trap you with a pregnancy. If she hits you up and says she's preggo, demand a paternity test and don't sign any acknowledgement of paternity until you've spoken to a lawyer.

[–]your_inner_asshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good for you, but you're still leaving yourself wide open to false accusations of regret rape and unwanted pregnancy. I'd recommend Jaco Beach.

[–]antariusz -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

You’re still plugged in man, the fact that you separated “sleeping over” with her ex from “sleeping with” her ex into separate categories shows how plugged in you are. Every single time they met, they fucked. He is her alpha fucks, you were her beta bucks.

The dude kept messaging her because she kept fucking him. Dozens of times, if not hundreds.

She even straight up told you that she still loved him.

Hell she probably got laid on that 2 day work trip away from you.

Oh, and yea, still plugged in because you were trying to change her over to your ways, instead all you did was make her even more disgusted with you. Alphas don’t “read books and watch YouTube” how to become men, they are just born that way.

Give it a few more months of reading the sidebar before you consider yourself unplugged. You haven’t yet even gone through the anger phase. You can’t skip anger and go right into acceptance. Even a beta can see a bad deal.

[–]RonieGarret 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Tl;dr: he became alpha overnight.