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Field ReportHitting on girls at the gym (self.TheRedPill)

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This one's a doozy so catch it quick before I delete it. Reddit is compromised and while I do enjoy writing these for you, the management and endorsed will be first in line on the dox firing squad when all inevitably goes to shit.
I've got a naked girl in my bed, a bag of weed and enough vasopressin in me to tell a few good stories ...and share some insights. I can't aim to beat Dr.Warlocks recent masterpiece that's hit the front page right now, he's been doing this shit for years and has the concise no-bs teaching shit locked down. Instead, I'm going to ramble about some of my approaches at the gym, and hopefully inspire a few guys to start approaching too.

Gym Thots

So, a guy recently asked a question on asktrp about hitting on girls at the gym and whether it was a good idea, and if anyone had any stories. The replies are good, and he's been given good advice. Generally, the consensus is to not shit where you eat, and that's normally very sound. Because often at the gym, hitting on a girl can go completely wrong and end in humiliation.
However, I'll let you into a little secret... most of the pretty girls at the gym are there to get hit on. It's true. They will deny it but we've all experienced it; the bouncy college girl who turns up in her best lululemon, does a few stretches, runs for a bit while instagraming, wonders around for a while... and then leaves.
And there are loads of these girls! Weekday afternoons at my gym we have a slim persian with rocking jugs showing 90% bare skin, hanging around the weights area hip thrusting and begging for male attention. These girls are horny as hell! They are crazy! They come to the gym to check out sweaty hot guys and show themselves off.
Of course there are women there who actually want to workout. The fat ones, the old ones, and the athletes. You will know who these are immediately; they keep to themselves and don't want any of your shit. Do not bother these women.
But the Mannequins, they make an entrance, they want you to see them. Like a bird of paradise, she fluffs her neon nike feathers, does her ab wheel dance and sings her song of "umm, could you help me move this -teehee-?"
Because yes, just like any possible place you can game, the gym is one of them, and if you get obvious IOIs from girls at the gym, don't be an idiot and go capitalise.
Most will hover around you, sometimes following you between stations. Stealing glances and hoping you'll say something. They may pick the treadmill next to you, or mimic your workout.
The braver ones will actually say something to you, in an effort to get you to open. This occurs especially if she's been trying to get your attention for a while but you've been oblivious or hesitant.
But the Mannequins all have one thing in common, they're not really there to exercise. If you watched them you'd notice they don't break a sweat at all. They're there to have an excuse to wear their expensive workout clothes and take instagram photos for later, and if a guy notices her ass and gets her number well, it just happened you know? ;)

Approach Methods

Girls are just as horny as we are if not more... ALL THE TIME! If you don't believe me you haven't been getting laid enough. I used to think women were noble and pure and had control of their impulses, unlike us disgusting male savages. Bullshit, it was all a lie. They are crazier and hornier than most of you guys can even imagine. Wait till you experience that shit man.
So hit on these girls, that's what they want. They like it. Sure you might get shot down, but only becuase you're ugly, not because you're at the gym. Most of the time, you will do surprisingly well... a lot of guys don't have the balls to approach anywhere, let alone the gym. She will like that.
But you need a few things first, which, if you've been doing your homework on my posts are:
(1) Frame, and the ability to approach in a hostile arena like the gym. If you cannot first make small talk and befriend the lifting regulars you see, there's no way you can approach the insta thots. Become a "somebody", know the management and regulars, give yourself some social proof and hope that the thots see you displaying it, and then you're ready to start tackling real women.
Because seriously, some guys on here are attempting model tier level approaches, hard mode, when they can barely make small talk with their subway sandwich artist. Gain some xp at the lower ranks first man. Learn to game dudes.
(2) A rocking bod. Of course. You're competing with jacked dudes and athletes, if you're a skinny or fat fuck, you can just stop here. You're at the gym to lift, so gain some size first, and then start approaching girls. Otherwise you will be politely laughed at. And not just by her. I have experienced this sadly.... stories below.
(3) Plausible Deniability. Always! Have an excuse to start talking to her, don't sexualise early, and have her guessing your intentions. Sometimes, you will be lucky and she will open you. Once again, use your damn head and methods of deduction; you will know whether it is just a girl being polite and asking for weights, or if she's interested in you; you will see it in the eyes normally, girls are good at reading intentions in the face like this... it is a skill that you should develop too, and you will over time.
Anyway, remember the fat, the old and the athletes. If they talk to you, they speak to you as just another gym bro. Female weightlifters are serious man, I don't think I could ever approach a girl who looked like she could OHP my bodyweight.

So now we've had the theory; it's story time. I approach at the gym; not as much as I'd hope, but a significant amount. I pussy out a lot too, don't get me wrong, but I've had some good experiences and some shocking failures. I'm going to write out the best ones I remember, it may make the post a bit too long but I'm not bothered, if you're still here by now you're in for the ride. Plus, I should probably write all the shit down before I lose it all to marijuana induced Alzheimers. My future self will thank me.

(1) First ever gym approach.

I was squatting. She was doing her stretches and yoga and planks and shit on a mat.... next to the squat rack. She would glance. I would glance. We would catch each other glancing. She would point her butt in my direction during every exercise. I think she was ovulating.
This girl was T H I C C. And not fat too. Proportions in all the right places. And best of all, I had seen her before. She was in one of my classes. I had plausible deniability.
I had never hit on a girl at the gym before, but I wasn't about to hamster myself into not doing so. I caught that shit early and just went for the approach. She was way too hot to regret passing up anyway.
It went magically. Like any textbook youtube approach could go. Hair twirling, laughing too hard at the jokes, fidgeting, giving me her number, fucking me a week later.
Well you know how it goes.

(2)Italian 10

Yeah you're all gonna give me shit for this because 10s dont exist bla bla ba, but man, I have a 10 category, and this girl was firmly in it. Hey, maybe I just have a thing for platinum blonde Italian 18 year olds with lots of ass.
This one "opened" me. I'm doing pulls ups. Taking my 1 min break and pacing around like an autist (I can't stand still or diddle on a phone I lose hype). She saunters in, removes her headphones and asks if I'm using the Lat Pulldown machine next to her. I say "no. go ahead" and ignore her.
The pullups continue. I only had 2 sets left but bumped it to 5 so the girl didn't think I was lazy and also so I could ogle her more. This girl was just so HOT and she knew it. I was staring and she knew it. She just played on her phone.
Eventually it was too late. I had remained paralyzed by the siren for too long. I had missed the window and now she thinks I'm lame. Or so I hamstered. I pussied out. It doesn't happen often, but it still does. A whole host of factors come into play. I felt skinny and weak. She was too hot. I was tired and near the end of my workout. She was too hot. I had never successfully approached and banged a 10 sober. She was too hot.
I finished my sets and left.
In the changing room I sat for a while hating myself for missing another easy opportunity. It would not have been hard to talk to her. She seemed open to it. Nothing was stopping me. Yet I still didn't do it.
I dressed and left in a dark mist of regret and self-hate.
I fill up my bottle, say bye to the girl at reception, and see the blonde Italian girl leaving just as I am.
Bam. Second opportunity. I'll never get another one. And I cannot pussy out again.
Behold, the actual conversation, call bullshit all you want, but I'm a smooth fucker now, I've had practice.
"Hi"
She looks at me oddly. "Hi"
"What's your name"
"Um Luciana, you"
"I'm Heathcliff"
She mispronounces it but that's okay.
"I don't normally do this really but you're just too pretty I couldn't not talk to you" -I'm ramping up the ~bashful~ here.
She giggles and says "thanks".
"I would have talked to you earlier but just a bit sweaty you know..."
She laughs again. I think I got it.
We chat for a bit more, exchange usual small talk pleasantries, majors, ages, ethnicities etc.
Then comes the time to bounce; it's been almost 2 whole minutes! Way too long. I'm a busy man you see. I gotta go to the library and study you see. I tell her this.
"We should see each other again. When are you next at the gym?" (Best way to set up this date, we have something common and it's familiar turf. Don't jump to the fucking nightclubs right away idiots)
"Um idk I'm kinda random with it". Ofc she is....
"Well let me get your number then and we can sort it out"
"Whatsapp?" she says.... why do girls always do this....????
But I fucked up. I kind of panicked. I didn't take her number. I gave her mine instead. I put it in her phone and left. And then I realise.
I don't have any way to contact her.
There's no way this girl is gonna make the first move over text. She has literal miles of dick queuing up for her.
It's already over. I fucked up again. My Luciana lost, no ficky ficky for me. Despair.
For a while I was about to get all angry at myself, about to beat myself up about fumbling yet again, for the 1000th time now.... but then my little Marcus Aurelius, the Directing Mind, caught me.
"Hey, you spoke to her. You got over your approach anxiety. And she was receptive to your advance. You did well, so what if you fucked it up at the end, can't change that now, and at least you know you can do it again for next time."
And so I had a spring in my step the rest of the day.
Thanks Directing Mind.
I put the girl out of my mind completely. Knowing I would never see her again. I learnt a good lesson from it though, but that's all it was going to be.
Until, 2 days later. I get a whatsapp message with 3 thumbs up emojis. The DP, an Italian girl in a dress sprawled on the hood of a car.
Holy shit.
The universe rewards me.

(3) The Nuclear

5/3/1 deload week. I'm benching. Not particularly sore and could probably lift more but I do what the program tells me to do.
In comes a blonde american girl. Good kind of skinny and curved, flat chested; pretty though, but with mad resting bitch face and a general "fuck off" aura.
However, I know this girl. She's in one of my classes. And friends with one of my friends to boot. Won't get a better opening than that.
I've actually seen this girl at the uni gym pretty frequently, and we've pretty much ignored each other. She seems pissed off by my presence, and I've been too scared to talk to her. It's just the high maintenance vibe man. Feels like she'll eat me after sex.
Well not this time. I've vowed to myself to no longer pussy out with approaching and at this point I'm riding on some pretty great recent victory waves.
This time though, we're not alone. It's the lifting area, the other bench is being used by the resident loud dudebros that I'm only on acquaintance terms with. They're bigger than me. Others are dotted around too.
She bounces in, struts around for a bit, her ass swaying in all the right ways. All eyes in that basement tracked the movement of those shorts and I'm pretty sure some new PRs were broken that day. I slyly add some more weight to the bar...
And most attractive of all. She was doing real exercises. When she put the bar down and started deadlifting I knew I had to speak to her.
Her stance was very wide as I watched her. Too wide for a conventional deadlift. Was she doing sumos? Maybe? Would it be bad for me to assume she's just doing deads wrong and interrupt her in order to correct her stance? Of course. Am I going to do it anyway? Definitely, it's the only opener I have right now and I learnt the hard way you gotta act quickly.
"Your legs don't have to be so far apart you know"
(wow what a line. either complete genius or utter stupidity.)
"what?" she says? and removes her headphones.
I repeat the damn line. The rest of the weight room are sneaking glances at us.
"But it's sumos" she says.
Fuck.
"oh so you know what you're doing... I'm Heath by the way"
"I know" she says. Interesting.... Seems I'm a bit more popular than I thought. The dudebros are now deathstaring us.
We small talk for a bit, and she's polite and friendly, but I don't want to hang around too long, so tell her I will return to my bench.
When I get there, my plates have gone. The bottle left on the bench (ancient gym code for brb) is still there. The salty betas stole my plates.
I smiled and reloaded. This is something I will have to get used to.

Eventually I finish my set and decided to talk to the pretty girl again. Mainly to say bye because I feel like that's polite etiquette with people you know, but also to taunt the betas a bit more because why not.
She's just started a set. I don't want to interrupt her. I wait. I admire her form. Someone taught this girl how to lift. Swole boyfriend probably. Good on him.
She quits mid set and gets up.
"What?!!?" she spits at me. Seething venom in her tone. Death in her eyes.
Wow. This went 180 real quick.... (Is it possible?...)
"I came to say bye...." I fumble out feebly. She took me off guard.
"What??" she says again, angrier, more indignant. (It could be...)
She didn't hear me. Cringe.
"I came to say bye"
"Bye." she says. In this most fuckoff way you can imagine. (No way... it is).
"wow ok..". I reply. My frame suddenly returns. I look her in the eyes and I see it.
The penetrative hate stare of The Borderline.
She saw right through me in seconds... and turned on me viciously.
Undeniably Borderline. I've experienced these girls before. Wild, beautiful, erratic, exuberant, powerful and dangerous. An almost autistic level of emotional intelligence, manipulation that would make old man Machiavelli cry, and an existential need to destroy everything around them.
Who cares if these personality diagnoses are real or whether they're psycho-gibberish, this archetype of girl exists; they all manifest the same behaviours and fuck you better than your fantasies.
I turn around and leave. She calls after me "Dont bother me while I'm exercising' or something like that.
I keep walking. The other guys are sniggering.
I sit in the changing rooms for a while in humiliation, then stand under a cold shower.
Fuck. A borderline.
My greatest weakness.
Like an addict, I had another taste and it fucked me up good.
And now I need another line.

I'll end it here, gonna wake up the girl with some dick in her face because I wrote myself into horny. She'll be happy about it too. Probably.
I'll try to write more posts, I have a lot I want to say, but no promises they'll stick around for long.
And yes, there's more to the story with these girls... they may pop up in future threads.
Thanks for reading,
Heath
Edit:
Some clarifcations because we're getting some sperg comments.
  1. I am attractive. How you read this post really depends on how you imagine the protagonist. I can get away with a lot of "creepy" shit because I lift and have frame. Girls stare at me on public transport.
  2. As stressed in this post. THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO ALL WOMEN. I emphasise that you should only approach girls that are giving you clear signals at the gym, and that there are girls there that are open to being approached and you can pick them out easily. Problem for many of you guys is that you can't pick up on the IOIs so never believe these girls exist.
  3. It is normal at my gym for people to talk to each other, give advice and have conversations at. Its a university after all. I have good rapport at my gym and have been going there for 3 years. If i was some newbie, I would be much more hesitant to be so forward. The number of smokeshows is high too, yet so is their turnover... They never stick around for long (gotta catch em while they're hot).
  4. Fuck following the rules to a T. It's always arbitrary and situation dependent. If I stuck hard to the "never hit on girls at the gym" rule, I would have significantly fewer great lays, and fun experiences with pretty and intelligent girls. So maybe getting shot down a few times and embarassing myself is worth it, who cares?
Some of you are just too scared to approach and use these dogmatic rules as buffers to rationalise failure.

[–]Hailteni NaHalitenina[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (11 children)

All right, listen up, fellas.

There's a lot of shit slinging going on in this thread. I suspect that a lot of you goobers yelling "fake" and "gay" and "fake and gay" don't actually approach IRL. Not every approach is going to be super smooth, but who cares about that if you're getting the lay. Sometimes things just work out, it's more important to put yourself in a position where you can potentially score than to come up with the perfect line.

I'm not a shrink, but if you're getting so hung up on the details that you're missing the forest for the trees, you may have mild autism. Get checked out.

"Keep your eye on where the finger is pointing, not the finger", or something like that, quote by the TRP Vanguard /u/Whisper.

Frankly, all this hate against OP simply demonstrates a lack of respect; it will not be tolerated.

First and only warning.

[–][deleted] 295 points296 points  (39 children)

Tread carefully if you decide to start doing unsolicited approaches at the gym, especially if its a gym you value training at. You can quickly become ''that guy''

If you have been training at the same gym for years you will know exactly which girls want you, they will make it very clear. In my experience it's best to just go after those few girls,

[–]RandyBumgardner85 66 points67 points  (11 children)

There is a "that guy" at my gym. He's about 50, big, tall and strong but wears such baggy clothes that it's hard to tell if he actually lifts. The second a half decent looking girl aged anywhere between 15 and 30 enters the gym he will dart straight for her and enter a 20 minute conversation, feigning clearly exaggerated enthusiasm for everything she says. He'll often be in the gym for 3 hours every night of the week.

When I started taking my (now ex) girlfriend to the gym I warned her "the first time he sees you here alone he'll come straight for you" He must have seen us in there together 10-15 times before this first happened. It's obvious we're an item.

So she goes in alone one day. Starts deadlifting. He comes straight for her. "Hi, how are you? What are you doing?"

"Deadlifts"

"Oh we're doing deadlifts too! Wanna come join?"

"No thanks"

Next time she gets in there a few minutes before me and gets on the incline bench. He's on the flat bench. He gets straight up, goes over to her.

"Hey, mind if I cut in with you?"

"My boyfriend is gonna be here in a minute, sorry"

A few days after that. We're walking into the gym. She walks in before me and I can see him through the glass. He heads straight for her. I walk through the door and he literally does a 180 on the spot and walks away.

The guy is fucking relentless. I haven't said anything to him (he's easily 1.5x my size and I don't need drama in the gym) but I give him the odd death glance and he's backed off since.

I do respect his determination in cold approach but the guy really is a creepy piece of shit and you can tell no one in that gym much likes him.

[–]MormonRedPill 19 points20 points  (0 children)

If your gym doesn't have at least one of these guys, you're missing out on like 60% of the gym experience.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 36 points37 points  (4 children)

At the gym I go to I have noticed the guys who cold approach like this generally are lower SMV. Not rock bottom SMV, but not in the Top 20% of the guys there for sure.

What I have noticed is the higher SMV guys there, are there to lift, not talk to women. They go in with a mission to lift and get out. That doesn't mean they don't talk to any women period, but their mindset upon being in the gym is to lift and they don't have time for distractions. If they want to talk to women after they are done lifting, they will. And generally the other difference is the higher SMV guys they don't cold approach every single semi-attractive girl there like the lower SMV guys do. They are a lot more selective, because they aren't desperate.

I believe lifting should be done with no distractions. Lift first, finish your workout, then bother with the girls if you choose to do so.

[–]masteryimain34 9 points10 points  (2 children)

ive noticed this too. higher smv guys are invited to parties clubs or have better girls than the milfs at the gym. low smv guys do not have that.

[–]Heizenbrg 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Man I'm not invited anywhere, Then again I'm a programmer that spends his free time playing over watch

[–]masteryimain34 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Atleast you have a skill set. You know those 26/27 yr old losers who wasted parents money in college because they kinda pushed them to go but never gained any valuable skills and only play videogames. Just keep trying. And honestly you have to learn to invite yourself out to places. alot of people hate that. Inviting themselves. Always wanting to be polite.

I know theres voice-chat in that game. The people in that game don’t know you and don’t care, most are sociopathic fighting for that elo rating to bump their egos and self esteem. So communicate and open yourself. Its just words. Or go out. Realize no one cares they’ll probably just see you as the boring loser and go back to talking amongst their friend group and have a great time. Only the biggest losers in a venue actively try to snicker at someone. ( It socially makes them look bad, and if a better group sees that they might even invite you in by asking about you) We all live in fear of death, just don’t waste your now’s

And if you can handle the toxicity of someone saying you sound dumb or gay in overwatch you can handle going outside.

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    [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Geez that’s mega cringe for a 50 year old

    [–]ClipClamp 58 points59 points  (1 child)

    I agree with this completely. The gym is a space to improve and build yourself up, not just physically but mentally. Chasing after girls at the gym is just going to get in the way of that process. Also remember that you're working out and going to the gym for yourself, not so you can attract a mate. That's just a byproduct of improving yourself.

    [–]PaulAJK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, I go to the gym to lift, not to hit on girls. In this present climate it would be really easy to get yourself into a situation where the gym management decided it was time to kick you out permanently. Way simpler for them to side with the "victim" rather than be sympathetic to you. It could be the chick you pumped and dumped who complains, but that shit might come at you from other directions as well. The fat bitch who's jealous, the white knight staff member, the girl who was relatively receptive at the time but later decides it was intimidating when she's pre-menstrual, all sorts of negative possibilities.

    Plus I don't want to turn the place into a pickup magnet. Fuck getting hit on by fat chicks after their pathetic "workout" on the cross trainer, or listening to some annoying dick spitting PUA lines when I'm sweating through my deadlifts.

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      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's sorta like people who pick and choose parts of the Bible to follow that work for them. TRP is the same way. It's however even more stupid.

      [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 127 points128 points  (4 children)

      I too pace around between sets like a rabid autist

      [–]Biggie_Smores 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      I circle the machine/bench or walk in circles if it's the rack. Keep er goin'

      You'll also catch me silently screaming solos to get pumped up.

      No shame no gain

      [–]themuffinman216 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      It's nice to see this. I thought I was the only one lol.

      [–]420KUSHBUSH 21 points22 points  (1 child)

      It makes you seem more animalistic, and thus spiritual since you're more in tune with your natural instincts. Girls dig that stuff

      [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 19 points20 points  (0 children)

      Just yesterday I literally had a guy at the gym come up to me and say something along those lines. He was like “what are you on man? You’re scarin me, you work out so hard!”

      [–]austinshepard13 237 points238 points  (22 children)

      I sincerely doubt that last chick was borderline. Your initial approach was you giving her form advice for something she clearly didn't need. I've found nothing makes a legitimate lifting girl hate you more. She made small talk probably trying to get you to leave. Then you reappear behind her in the middle of her next set. You probably set off her creeper alarm at this point and she probably felt she now needed to be aggressive to get rid of you. EVERY chick has learned the ability to give a brutal rejection if she feels the need to, not just borderlines.

      [–]RandyBumgardner85 35 points36 points  (0 children)

      I agree. I personally wouldn't recommend going around giving lifting advice to anyone, especially not someone who clearly knows what they are doing. It's a condescending as fuck way to hit on someone. Going back again just to say "bye" to someone who has already shot you down....what the fuck were you thinking?

      That being said, I enjoyed the OP. It's good to read a (partially) successful field report from someone who's game is clearly clumsy but who has the motivation to press on regardless. If I was able to deal with rejections like this and get back on the horse I'd no doubt get a lot more pussy.

      [–]writewhereileftoff 39 points40 points  (5 children)

      The gym is for working out period. Its the only place I can zone in, listen to my music and work out without anyone bothering me. Keep the approaching for parties and casual get togheters. Girls have asked to train with me numerous times. No...fuck no...the gym is my place. No girls allowed.

      [–]MayanEnt 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      The gym is my temple to get gains. Get in, workout like an animal and get out. No socializing for me while at the gym.

      [–]Heizenbrg 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      But what if you have no social life? It at least gives you a chance to meet people

      [–]BigMawsmidget 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Then you go get one outside of the gym.

      [–]SKRedPill 56 points57 points  (24 children)

      I used to think women were noble and pure and had control of their impulses, unlike us disgusting male savages. Bullshit, it was all a lie. They are crazier and hornier than most of you guys can even imagine. Wait till you experience that shit man.

      Actually I now realize men have so much more control in general over a machine that is always on and driven to run, and which can get aroused by a mere thought, or just a brush on the skin. The male sex drive is like a Ferrari, but your forebrain is a good driver.

      Women, they need to be turned on alright, but looking at what they do, it's clear that they have less control overall over their feelings once they are on -- I mean, look at the divorce stats! Once their Ferrari comes alive, it tries to drive them around...

      And oh god, that stare of the borderline, I've seen it. A hatred that could burn down a city if it took physical form. Run if ya' spot 'em.

      [–]cant_fix_crazy 21 points22 points  (19 children)

      You guys need to experience a real borderline. Until you’ve been to jail for false accusations or been in divorce court with one, you haven’t REALLLLLYYYY experienced a borderline in all their glory.

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        [–]SKRedPill 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        I got lucky to get out with a mutual and no damage done to anyone -- when I was at the court though there were 4 dozen others ahead of me with some horror stories - some people have been fighting for over a decade.

        But the divorce taught me one thing - never again I'll fear setting boundaries or walking out at any stage in the relationship if shit goes downhill.

        I've been there, and I've survived what I feared was the worst, for which I was willing to stoop down (and lose any shred of respect I had left) and hey, life goes on. I was lucky not to have kids and there were no asset disputes, but that was a taste of what could have been much worse.

        So yeah, like virtually every other man here, I got hit by the red lightning - it's like dying. But there's life on the other side, and in the long run, it's a better you and a better life. After that, you're not afraid of 'death' again.

        [–]rossiFan 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Yep. I don't scare easy, but I steer clear of those fucking things.

        [–]cant_fix_crazy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Women?

        I think you meant “I steer clear of fucking those things”

        [–]rossiFan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I meant "I steer clear of fucking those fucking things".

        Good catch!

        [–]1Metalageddon 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        Never went to jail. 2x had to deal with cops. (Once for a lie, another time I called them myself. Yeah I did, 210 13% me vs hot 115lb bitch. Being hit with a 2x4 isn't fun.)

        She was fucking borderline, but it didn't begin showing until about a year in. (Their super power is subterfuge.) Then again, I was a decade younger than now and fucking stupid.

        After that. I simply can't be paid enough to give a shit.

        [–]cant_fix_crazy 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Ya they are good at being incognito until your trapped. They go in and out tho too, sometimes confusing the stupider of us (me) that they might actually be normal and safe and then BAM! Restraining order.

        [–]1Metalageddon 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Thankfully she dropped the truth the moment I labeled her a fiance. I think this story is in my history, if not I'll probably share it some time.

        Fucking chameleons.

        [–]cant_fix_crazy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        As soon as you hear the term borderline (or just personality disorder) run fast and run far.

        I went on a tinder date with one who was aware that she was borderline (in therapy). The fact that she was open and “dealing” with it made me curious.

        She went hot/cold on me about 20 times during the date. Sometimes aggressively making out with me in the middle of a busy restaurant, and 10 seconds later telling me it’s not gonna work etc. went back to her place... luckily she was on her rag so didn’t fuck. Ghosted her 5 seconds after walking out that door...

        [–]1Metalageddon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Oh believe me, after the ex fiance I learned. Never gone back, pretty good senses now.

        Screw that noise.

        [–]ImHerWonderland 0 points1 point  (7 children)

        Did the former, going through the latter now. I don't know what's worse, my ex, or those "reformation" classes.

        [–]ioncehadsexinapool 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Is borderline a new term or something?

        [–]truedemocracy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This is true. Not sure if other guys experience this but many women when horny want to bang in public. At a parking lot, on a beach, in a restroom, etc. I cant tell if women just have some weird fetish about this or what but they almost always find it hot.

        [–]Scandinavianredpill 134 points135 points  (11 children)

        you are acting like a fucking creep. there are no salty betas there is only you being a retard and people rolling their eyes.

        [–]WarViper1337 37 points38 points  (10 children)

        My local gym has rules against being a "gym bro" and that includes trying to pick up girls or just telling people they are doing exercises incorrectly. They will kick you out and revoke your membership without much hesitation. I find the gym to be a horrible place to pick up girls anyway since they find it creepy when you hit on them if they aren't already interested in you.

        [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 27 points28 points  (4 children)

        I personally hate assholes who go around giving unsolicited advice. Unless said advice will prevent someone from paralyzing themselves, STFU.

        I played football and baseball in college and was able to train under very experienced strength & conditioning coaches who taught me all the form I needed to be taught. Yet all the time I have dumbasses come up to me and tell me I am doing things wrong, even though I am not.

        One guy had the nerve to tell me on OHP my grip should be as wide as my bench press(wrong). Another guy was telling me to bounce my deadlifts off the floor between reps, that way I can do higher weight since the floor will help me get it up. Idiot.

        [–]11-Eleven-11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        eh. when i first started lifting i took whatever advice i could get.

        [–]TCMThommy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        How wide should OHP grip be? Of the major lifts it's the one I've most recently incorporated.

        [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Narrower than bench because you want your elbows in.

        If you can't touch your shoulders with your thumbs its too wide

        [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I do multiple widths of grips when I do any press to hit the full muscle spectrum. And for OHP I think incorporating some wide grip helps widen out your shoulders since it’s hitting the outermost deltoid fibers.

        [–]Nicolay77 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        or just telling people they are doing exercises incorrectly

        Now that sounds excessive. Unless there's a trainer around whose job is precisely that.

        [–]WarViper1337 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        There is always a trainer on duty there to assist with any question about proper form.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        My local gym has rules against being a "gym bro"

        Sounds horrible. They'd kick you out for proper deadlifts, I'm guessing.

        [–]WarViper1337 11 points12 points  (1 child)

        Nah they just don't want some "know it alls" ruining it for everyone else. It only takes a few of them to run off the customer base and give the whole place a bad reputation. Most people get along just fine. The worst I have seen so far was some guy who was slamming weights and grunting like a wild hog at every machine he went too and the manager came out to talk to him.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Fair enough. I have my weight set taking up half my living room....whatevs, so much easier this way.

        [–]AlexDr0ps 10 points11 points  (5 children)

        If you have any interest in rock climbing, I strongly believe climbing gyms are the number 1 place to pick up girls.

        1. It's already a social sport. Climb a route she is trying and talk about it. Easy icebreaker.

        2. Say "we should climb again and get some drinks afterwards. What's your number" Or something along those lines. Easy setup.

        3. Rock climber girls are almost always bangin and care about their health

        I've gotten so many leads through my local climbing gym it's insane. I don't even try. I go there to climb and more often than not I'll notice a cute girl climbing by herself and slide right in

        [–]askmrcia 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        I agree with you. And I'm going to add to your comment with bouldering. My cheap ass Perfer bouldering over rock climbing.

        The best thing about Bouldering at least at the gym I go to, is people will sit around the course just chatting. So 9/10 you will end up talking to someone and if it's an attractive girl, you have a win

        [–]AlexDr0ps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, bouldering is the move. Great healthy activity. I lift too and use bouldering as my back day substitute. Deadlifts and climbing have given me a solid build

        [–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Plus they're really good at old fashioneds.

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          [–]FrankCostanza111 13 points14 points  (2 children)

          Nobody likes unsolicited advice. You would have had a better chance if you asked her for lifting advice, like Roosh writes about in Day Bang.

          [–]ftdrain 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Not to my experience, everytime I've given advice at the gym, they've showed gratitude and even interest in me afterwards (mostly women), I also hate having to correct people so they don't kill themselves, so it rarely ever happens.

          [–]FrankCostanza111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Have you banged the women after you've given them unsolicited advice?

          [–]Rhynovirus 13 points14 points  (1 child)

          Totally contrary to my experience. The gym is a sacred space. People there to work out hate being fucked with.

          Maybe if you go to one of those shitty gyms like Curves or something. I've never seen it turn out well for anyone gaming women at the gym. At best you get results by making idle chat and doing something after your workout, at worst you're the creepy SOB who hits on everyone when they're busy.

          And for me, if I'm there talking I'm not working out which is contrary to my purpose in going there.

          [–]cant_fix_crazy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          It was a good opener, low hanging fruit. I’ve done it too. Don’t listen to haters.

          [–]TheseNthose 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          Been going to the gym for 18 years and different gyms. And not once did I see anybody step in to correct some momo's form.

          [–]crimsonpowder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I wouldn't point it out. Bodybuilding is an IQ test. I don't help people cheat on exams.

          [–]TheDefendorr 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          Personally I probably wouldnt but thats what I was referring to when I said "unless they are taking a trip to snap city"

          [–]ImHerWonderland 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          You listen to elgintensity on YT?

          [–]TheDefendorr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Haha I watch his fail videos but snapcity is not only said by him

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I honestly wouldn't point anything out to anyone, because it's very rare that anyone takes it well. I sat and watched a guy doing lat pulldowns in levis and a button-up shirt, half standing then slamming his butt on the bench every rep, jerking and contorting his whole body like a spaz. I didn't say shit, because A) They never want to hear it; B) Fuck that, I'm busy. But I'm not criticizing you or doubting your story at all.

          I enjoyed your post, thank you for your efforts.

          [–]DeadliftRx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Men need to ask themselves: Will this person's foolish actions have any effect on my life?

          I once had a similar encounter and now I wouldn't even help someone if their spine literally snapped doing OHP or Deadlifts. The mentality in 2018 is: Not my problem.

          [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

          "most of the pretty girls at the gym are there to get hit on " show me science or grow the fuck up.

          [–]Hussy68 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          yeah mate let me get a peer-reviewed source hold up.

          [–]DamnDirtyApe87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I think it's about 50% trying to workout and 50% gaining attention by wearing skimpy outfits.

          [–]bonerpotpie 35 points36 points  (2 children)

          I applaud you for getting over the fear of approaching, but for fuck's sakes man. You need to work out the way you interact with people, especially at a holy place like the gym. Pacing around, sperging out, interrupting people to give incorrect critiques, "I had to say bye!" It all sounds creepy as fuck.

          [–]ImHerWonderland 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          I pace between sets like an animal also.

          [–]11-Eleven-11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          This is obviously when he was a noob. What do you expect?

          [–]tibikush2012 51 points52 points  (6 children)

          I have never hit on a girl in a gym. Gym hoes, even though some of them are attractive. simply because they are stupid attention whores. I go to the gym to train in order to hit on girls elsewhere.

          [–]Morphs_ 23 points24 points  (2 children)

          But some of those hot instagram chicks are practically unfindable elsewhere. It's like being in a candystore, while instead trying to find candy in the jungle.

          [–]askmrcia 15 points16 points  (1 child)

          No they are not. You can find them at any club or beach taking selfies

          [–]OzzyDaGrouch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Both of yall making great points 😂😂 👍🏼👍🏼

          [–]belletaco 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Just for clarity.. is every woman that goes to the gym is a gym hoe?

          [–]WolfofAnarchy 42 points43 points  (1 child)

          Very misguided, there are SO many girls who look as good as they do because they workout a fucklot, so they don't just go there to get picked up.

          [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 13 points14 points  (0 children)

          Girls are opportunists. When you have to recieve game, and not give it, you have to be able to accept offers as they come in.

          They don't get the luxury of deciding where the battle is waged, thats the mans gift

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          [–]Barvazon 34 points35 points  (0 children)

          What the fuck did I just read

          [–]SageKnows 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          I think she was ovulating
          

          Holy fuck, you can't make this shit up. How is this shit upvoted so much. DO you guys seriously not realize that this is very autistic. Go to the gym to workout and leave other people alone. Also, improve your writing skills, this is the most pathetic, fakest and cringiest story I heard so far. You would be kicked out of my gym in a couple of hours if you did that kind of shit.

          [–]_Ulan_ 15 points16 points  (4 children)

          As other said, if you value your gym you might not want a mad BPD girl to steal your shit while you squat because she is angry that you nexted her ... No shit where eat.

          Your legs don't have to be so far apart you know

          oh so you know what you're doing... I'm Heath by the way

          [...]

          "What?!!?" she spits at me. Seething venom in her tone. Death in her eyes.

          These are better ways to open, I would not be surprised if she get pissed at someone who open her like that.

          "I don't normally do this really but you're just too pretty I couldn't not talk to you" -I'm ramping up the ~bashful~ here.

          You fell in the category of scarce needy boys who don't fuck 10s on a daily basis.

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            [–]_Ulan_ 5 points6 points  (2 children)

            It's a great start that you can admit it, next time you'll nail it like a roman soldier in year 0.

            [–]mnemos_1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            33 AD. Still a great one though.

            [–]_Ulan_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Yeah you're right ... can't remember very well it was a while ago

            [–]ftdrain 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            if anything you guys should appreciate this for the comedy value, not because its unbelievable or autistic, but because of the fucking hillarious writing style. I know I did.

            [–]WesternStoic 6 points7 points  (1 child)

            Hitting on girls at the gym is solid if you aren’t creepy and/or ugly. Just be casual about it and don’t get defensive if you’re rejected because that will come off weird and you’ll start to get a creeper rep at your gym.

            If they make eye contact for more than a couple seconds or multiple times, have a normal approach with solid game, and are a good looking shredded cunt; chances are that you’ll be ripping off dem der yoga pants and bustin those cheeks in the planet fitness parking lot.

            Yeaaaa

            [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Approaching at the gym is definitely hard mode. The larger the gym, the more difficult it will be. More members = greater chance to be AMOGed and harder to gain status within the gym.

            I am not discouraging men to do it, but the 80-20 rule is more like the 95-5 rule in a gym setting. There is a very, very, very fine line between creepy and not creepy. If you don't have the frame and body, the risk isn't worth the reward.

            Don't go to the gym to pick up women. Go to the gym to lift and get better, and then if you want to, go approach women. Lifting should be your #1 priority. If you are going to the gym primarily to meet women and to lift second you are doing it wrong.

            Overall OP good post. Like you I got attacked by a bunch of non-TRP posters last night in my own post. This place must be under a brigade or something.

            [–]tonytftc 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            How much fucking time do you have? Jesus fucking christ. Imagine if girls you were talking to at the gym knew you went on reddit to write essays on how to pick them up. Pathetic

            [–]Thistookmedays 23 points24 points  (13 children)

            If there is one place where girls do not want to be approached it is the gym. I've heard over and over from girls they not comfortable working out just anywhere, because the men gaze. There are quite a few 'ladies only' gyms and I get why.

            [–]1mental_models 11 points12 points  (9 children)

            not necessarily

            here are 3 main reasons they do not declare a like for gym approach

            1. Peer-pressure / Social Proof of admitting to their social group that they would like to be approached at the gym. (anti slut defense, plausible deniability)

            2. Being approached by low-SMV guys. (has to at least be a guy they'd normally date)

            3. An atmosphere of overt sexually objectification (they only want to receive approaches when they are open to approaches, by only those whom they are open to approaching. Otherwise, they want the ability to be respected.)

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

            You make TRP sound so cringe. I believe it has some merit to it, but you should not be representing it.

            [–]1mental_models 3 points4 points  (5 children)

            so cringe

            What specifically do you disagree with?

            Let's spare the name-calling/negative-association for a minute, and have a rational discussion.

            Are you game?

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I appreciate you switching this to a logical discussion. I'm open minded when logic and proof is used

            [–]Fyrjefe 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            so cringe

            My dude, cringe is a verb. You're looking for the adverb cringeworthy. When dudes say this, I wonder if they've even started growing facial hair...

            [–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Bullshit. You must be new here.

            Women don't want to be approached in the gym or anywhere else by unattractive men, IOW, most men. They absolutely lo-o-o-o-o-o-o-ove being approached by the right kind of man.

            Hint: be the right kind of man.

            [–]neverquitman 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            Cringe

            It seems like this is in europe. People in america are way more chill.

            [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (13 children)

            Please don’t delete it my man

            [–]dtoor14 5 points6 points  (12 children)

            Yeah, i was wondering @Heathcliff why you delete all your posts

            [–]SonOfSparda304 30 points31 points  (6 children)

            So he can complain about them being deleted. This guy has a weird victimhood complex going on.

            [–]smirk_addict 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            He does. I’m still trying to figure out who gave him EC. He went off on a couple of tangents in some older threads about how blacks are sub-human and need to stay away from his white women... But sometimes he culturally appropriates in his terminology. I just can’t take him seriously.

            [–]dtoor14 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            What in the fucking world. It’s guys like this that make me wonder about sticking to reading only sidebar material..

            [–]SonOfSparda304 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Yeah I'm basically just here for that and talking about gym stuff.

            [–]ImHerWonderland 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Nah, fuck that. If you think about it, it does make sense. Someone in a high up civilian position was allegedly doxxed from here, and I can only imagine it was a shit show. Save a personal copy to your computer if you like, that's what I'm doing.

            [–]SonOfSparda304 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Why would I save this lmao this post is junk.

            [–]1empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Doxxing. It's not complicated.

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              [–]Hussy68 17 points18 points  (2 children)

              I just don't understand how you are even in the mentality to speak to chicks while working out. Boggles my mind.

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                [–]Hussy68 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                don't disagree at all. However, for me I'm focused on the weights. Maybe after the workout sure. But during the workout, i couldn't.

                [–]king-schultz 24 points25 points  (1 child)

                This post is exactly why everyone hates TRP. You're "that guy", and everyone is laughing at you.

                [–]huge_gap 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                I enjoyed the story but felt like there was no payoff. How many of these chicks have you banged after approaching at the gym?

                [–]HappyBoostMan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                The more I get rejected the more I bone girls.

                [–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                ".... I've failed over and over and over again. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan

                [–]Chaddeus_Rex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Heathcliffe, when you say skinny how do you define it? I am not the biggest guy at the gym but not the smallest either (15 inch arms at this point).

                Also, can you describe some gym IOI's please? I could swear that I have received IOI's from girls in the gym before but I never approached because I didn't want to be wrong and gain a poor reputation (I know a lot of people at my gym). One time, I was working out and checking out a girl who was working out. She then started doing tricep kickbacks with her ass pointed in my face. I thought it accidental, because there are bigger guys there.

                [–]RP_Tesla 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                The Gym has always been seen as a "Sanctuary of Lifting" in my view. I've considered running pickup game in the gym but would rather avoid the 'awkwardness' that would happen when it (inevitably) all goes to shit.

                Fear of success? You could argue that. However... when I wake up at 5 in the morning to get my set in, you bet your ass all I'm focusing on is lifting, doing my best, and then getting out of there to own the rest of the day. I see gaming at the gym I frequent as shitting where I eat though.

                That being said, if I catch an IOI from someone who is amazingly my type and pushes all the right buttons in me...Sure. Maybe. Why not.

                [–]RalphStone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Sure you might get shot down, but only because you're ugly, not because you're at the gym.

                just a little reminder that red pill world is no way prettier than blue pill.

                [–]JezebeltheQueen5656 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Because there’s absolutely no possibility that the hot girls at the gym are hot because they go to the gym all the time, rather than the other way around.

                [–]_TheRP 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Yeah, this shit only works if you're one of the really fit dudes at the gym. I was one of those dudes in college, too. Fucked almost every chick that worked at that gym because they constantly rotated in and out.

                However OP was right up front - it's generally a bad idea to shit where you eat. You don't want to make going to the gym awkward because you hit on three of the chicks that are constantly there at the same time as you and got shot down. Also, I personally hate having conversations at the gym because I hate going back to sets after cooling down.

                That said, I've seen all of this happen in person. Pretty regularly. The girls to avoid are the ones in hats, the ones that actually know how to do things like bench press with proper form, and the girls that are clearly athletes.

                The 22 year old chicks walking on the treadmill constantly on their phone? Yeah, she's there to bang hot dudes and get an ego boost from being hit on. Plus she will have "worked out" so now she can justify the pint of ice cream for Tuesday dinner and the half a gallon of shitty white wine she drinks while watching the John Mulaney stand up on Netflix for the 57th time. Fat logic is just as common to women as slut logic.

                [–]Trenned_out 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Finally made a reddit account just to post in this thread. This is something I struggled with for a long time, I lift very seriously and have never really considered hitting on girls at the gym. I definitely don't play the same game as OP directly approaching randoms at the gym, but I realized I was cutting myself off from opportunities with hot girls in an environment where I situationally had high status.

                This isn't some e-brag but to give context to what I mean above. I'm 6'3 255 12% bf, 4 plate bench 640 deadlift etc.... So in a serious bodybuilding gym sure I'm small but anywhere else I stand out.

                The social circle game I've gotten from befriending men and women at the gym is just ridiculous and has probably been the biggest boost to the quality of women I fuck. I've got a 58 n-count and really don't care much for fucking 5-6s off tinder anymore.

                People who work in night life often congregate in gyms, bouncers and hot female bartenders. Meeting these people in an environment where I have some status made friendships happen easily. Transitioning to night life, it's a big status boost when you roll up, skip the line and get handed a few free drink cards, shake hands with the bouncers and the manager walks over to greet you right away.

                I don't directly approach at the gym and spit game there, however then meeting these girls out casually at a bar is like batting off a tee then, with 7+s who have hot bodies.

                Finally, and I'll admit this part is a bit of a brag, but I fucked a 10/10 IFBB figure pro that I met through my social circle gym game. I know I know, no real 10s, but subjectively there are girls who check all the boxes that can make them a personal 10. A girl I'm friends with from the gym came out with me and my open (on my side) LTR and mentioned she was bringing a friend.... enter dime piece IFBB pro, who begins hitting on me right in front of my LTR....

                I could write an entire post just about that girl but I realize I'm straying from the original topic.

                Tldr: don't need to directly game girls at the gym to have the gym be a HUGE boost to your game. Think big picture not just "oh gonna go hit on this hot girl in leggings."

                [–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                didn't read the whole thing, but wanted to say that getting to know the gym staff is definitely a huge bonus. i also get to know the regulars as well. i do it not because pussy, fuck pussy.. i do it because, as you all know, gyms are usually a dick measuring contest, but if you get to know the bros, then its much more bearable. now, when the pussy sees you walking in and getting recognition from people that makes the pussy wet. many times they'll approach me because they think i know everything and anything in the gym.

                the easiest way to make friends with the swole bros at your gym is to walk in with the right attitude and act like you know them already (because you really do if you've seen them there at least 10 times and made repeated eye contact). as you walk by just extend a fist bump and say whats up. nothing more needed. after some time you'll end up having small talk and you made a friend.

                [–]Magnetosis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                I don't know about you guys but I go to the gym literally only to lift. Not shit where I eat. Even if I wanted to shit where I eat I am pretty much always SUPER fucked up on pre-workout and can't think much beyond "MORE WEIGHT"

                [–]ChadTheWaiter100 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                I’m searching for the dr warlock post and I don’t see it anywhere. Which one are you referring to?

                [–]peeng_newt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Beyond "pick up the girl that's serving it on a silver fucking platter", this is shitpost.

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                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Pick up artist don’t want you to know this one trick.

                Critique their form very harshly.

                Before you do this I STRONGLY urge you get a poncho because you will experience a monsoon of vaginal juices from like every girl, in the tri-county.

                [–]StillHigh09 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                But I fucked up. I kind of panicked. I didn't take her number. I gave her mine instead. I put it in her phone and left. And then I realise. I don't have any way to contact her.

                I actually do that on purpose. If shes really interested,she will text me. If she doesnt? I dont give a single fuck about it.

                [–]ChadTheWaiter100 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                Why are you saying your posts will be deleted?

                [–]mcavvacm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                "And there are loads of these girls!"

                Not in my gym, they go to some of the other more fancy gyms. The ones that go to the same as me are actually there to train, as it should be.

                [–]ThrowMeABoneScott 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Great easy language with varied relevant examples with a plethora of principles.

                [–]valerioluc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I found girls at the gym medium difficulty, the problem it's after that moment of validation.

                K this guy was "cool" he likes my ads and asked my number, but he didn't rly like me, just my body.

                So the next time you are going to hit her up, if she is a quality girl with abundance she will just think "nahh". I'm working on that actually.

                [–]menial_optimist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                I don't even know what IOI stands for.

                [–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Indicator of Interest.

                Read the fucking sidebar.

                [–]mcs007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I know a lot of people are giving you shit, OP. Regardless of how they think your approaches went vs. how they actually went is arbitrary.... or almost. The main take away everyone should get from this are the 3 rules for approaching. If you can improve on these then I can certainly see gym chicks becoming a source to tap into. Plus you have a small community of friends which will boosts your lifts.

                [–]arcsector2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Your note about the longevity you have going with the gym makes this whole post's context much clearer to me.

                [–]Canedude08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Lots to digest in the OP, but it's a useful post. I will say this though: The kind of chick that would attention whore in a gym is most likely even more flaky than the typical attention whore. Even in my single days, I didn't game in the gym, merely because I go to the gym to work, and I don't want to be disturbed. It's about getting the work done, maybe shooting the crap with some of the regulars that I see every day(There's an older guy at my gym that I talk history and politics with, dude has seen it all), but other than that, I'm there to get stuff done.

                [–]AmatureProgrammer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                What Dr. Warlock post? Just curious.

                [–]AmatureProgrammer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                What Dr. Warlock post? Just curious.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                My Gym is a cock fest.. So I just lift

                [–]Trowawayantifap28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                What ever the takeaway might be here. It was a really great read! Thanks for your amazing post.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Heath "girls stare at me" cliff-

                Entertaining read. Thank you for sharing.

                [–]1princeahole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Alright, I think that the gym has a certain purpose; for you to get better. Sure you can pick up girls there but at that point is contradicts the fact you want to get yourself better

                [–]lateteatoto 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Completely off topic, but man, you have an undeniable literary talent ! Ever thought of capitalizing on it ? Would love to read other stuff like this.

                [–]sizzlingseveral 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I go to the gym just to work out. If I could go to an all male gym I would. No need to get distracted by girls at the gym.

                [–]p_and_q 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Side note: as you start to get into shape, take note of how people look at you in the gym (esp. the girls). Remember, when you were ugly and week you were practically invisible. The fact that these people are noticing you means that you are improving.

                I went from invisible -> curious glares -> fuck me eyes -> (best feeling) girl comes over to near where I'm crunches, starts 'stretching' in front of the mirror while glancing over to me with fuck me eyes. It was the first time I'd ever seen it outside a bar and I was too much of a pussy to say anything. But getting back to the point, workout, get strong, and you'll see noticeably differences in the way the same gym girls who looked right through you, now don't only see you, but want see you in their bedroom.

                [–]WestyWorld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Priority number one is lifting. Don’t make it your mission to hit on pussy at the gym. If it so happens you have a natural interaction or a girl approaches you... run with it. But don’t go out of your way.

                I agree though it’s easy to tell who is there to get hit on and who is there to do work. The ones who want attention are usually dressed cute with makeup. You have to make the interaction completely natural though, so she feels like it “just happened”. No girl wants to meet future husband online. There is real value in “a story of happenstance true love” (for the girl).

                There are a subset of women cough my ex gf who actually want both - they are there to seriously train and also to get hit on by men.

                [–]Aurora921 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Definitely agree on the "Borderline". I've met one a couple of years ago when I was a bit less of a man and the way she knew exactly how to push my buttons was terrifying. Best to stay away from such women although that particular one was nothing but a model.

                [–]Timmeny_Cricket 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Isn't the reason that all women's gym Curves exist to avoid stuff like this? You should be focusing on your workout anyway.

                [–]noctorious99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Just what I need before I head out to the gym. Nice to learn the gym isn't always a cold environment.

                [–]danoranika 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                You can season your chicken breast with the salt in the comment section. OP has balls. Go fuck yaself.

                [–]drkinferno72 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Personally I’m just there to get in get out. Too busy pumping iron to really care. I’ll hit on them when I don’t smell

                [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                You're getting a lot of criticism but I really appreciated the writing. I can tell you're legit. Also it's awesome that you talk about your shortcomings or the times you pussied out. All of us go through this.

                Those who criticize you have no idea what they're talking about. Not all interactions go smoothly, sometimes it doesn't turn out ok and then you just withdraw in the best way you can. That's not cringy, that's life. And that's how you grow.

                You must be slaying left and right.. Keep it up, good man.

                [–]Neon_needles 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                You're getting a lot of criticism but I really appreciated the writing. I can tell you're legit.

                You might want to go to a doctor, you obviously are suffering from a lethal dose of retardation.

                [–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Good argument. Well played man

                [–]TheEnglishman28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I have been here a long time but don't post very often. It's a little sickening to see the cuckoldry in this thread in regards to the OP.

                Who gives a fuck about his particulars or what he does or doesn't look like?

                He came here, wrote up an advice column and gave his field report, to you guys, half you bitches don't have the balls to approach a hot chick in the gym. Gyms are a place where hot bitches congregate that isn't a bar or club, where you guys maybe approach that 4 or 5, since thats the only level you have enough nut to approach.

                Sit the fuck down and learn.

                [–]abh985 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

                The Gym Thot menace is all too real but play your cards right and be good-lookin/jacked and you”ll get them in bed. Solid post overall m8

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