FR: Dealing with a girl who doesn't want to put out

BlackFire68 · 2018-04-08T19:51:05+00:00

I expected to see a blank post here as you simply don't deal with a girl who won't put out.

Realworld · 2018-04-08T21:07:59+00:00

Lost track of how many women (6-10?) joined me in bed but insisted they didn't want to 'go all the way' yet. In my pre-reddit days, I assumed they honestly knew what they wanted. I'd respond same way each time... tell them I was tired, roll over and go to sleep.

Every damn time I'd get the same result. They'd watch in disbelief and when they saw I was honestly sound asleep they'd realize they were blowing their one sure shot at me. They'd wake me up from sound sleep and want to fuck. "Jeez, what time is it? We'll fuck next time. Go to sleep." Seriously worried now, they'd insist on sex then and there. I'd roll on, fuck, roll off, and go to sleep again.

I considered it like putting a bookmark in place. We both knew she was ready and willing next time.

Dmva100 · 2018-04-08T16:25:42+00:00

Did this before except when I told her to leave I left as well and drove to my other plates house to fuck. She tried to follow me but got stuck at a red light. Texting ensued for the whole evening. I didn't respond until the AM after my other plate drained my balls.

When they try to weaponize sex, double down (A+A) and use it back.

And for all the folks reading who have been stupid enough to get themselves into an LCF position, keep a plate that can host so you can do exactly as described above. Never grovel for sex. LMR is just as contextual as a womans hypergamous evaluation. If you and your (god forbid) LTR have steady sex, but you went to a party and some Chadder guy talked to her for 10 seconds, when you both go home to bang afterwards, she'll probably throw up LMR just so she can rationalize knocking you down a few beta pegs because she thinks she can score him based on a microinteraction while you struggle to figure out 'what's wrong' while you try to overcome her stonewalling. Don't be that guy.

tall_bacon · 2018-04-09T04:07:40+00:00

I did this once and the woman threatened that she’d tell people about me at a local winery we frequented.

What happened was...I was escalating and each time she’d say “just letting you know, we’re not having sex tonight.” Happened about three times, and when number four interruption was about to happen I told her to get the fuck out.

Anyway, I called her bluff regarding her threat afterwards and told her that she was being a fucking bitch simply because the night didn’t go her way. I wasn’t about to let her weaponize sex and I made sure she knew that I knew what she was doing.

She apologized profusely an hour later, and then I blocked her.

Sometimes you need to rub their faces in it. Cold rejection is usually enough, but not for some women. They need to learn.

ex_addict_bro · 2018-04-08T15:50:02+00:00

She wanted to fuck the first time she met you. The problem was your handling of LMR and ASD. Textbook thing if you ask me. Still a solid post, no Sperg noticed, ou’re my bro. Read some shit once in a while please

Wh1te_Cr0w · 2018-04-08T17:30:22+00:00

Dealing with a girl who doesn't want to put out? Move on to the next. Fixed.

RedPillWintergreen · 2018-04-09T06:46:01+00:00

The sad thing is that in another world, a woman not putting out the first time you meet would be a sign of quality. Nowadays it means she's trying to pull a power play.

tenXten · 2018-04-08T20:46:12+00:00

Amen, brother. A-fucken-men.

Zanford · 2018-04-08T21:38:08+00:00

Well played, you're an ice cold mofo in the right way.

RandyBumgardner85 · 2018-04-08T20:29:24+00:00

It's probably worth mentioning here that there are quite a few girls on a Tinder who won't put out on the first date simply because they don't want to be pumped and dumped. For this reason if I'm met with LMR more than once on the first date I'll back off and subtly give the impression that I've got things to do.

On the second date there really is no reason for her not to put out and I'll ditch the subtlety if it's not going down.

simplisticallysimple · 2018-04-09T09:47:36+00:00

When she doesn't put out, or resists sex, always cut off all attention. Don't even cuddle with her anymore. Keep a physical distance if necessary, purposely be distant, play with your phone.

99% of the time, she'll ask you, "What are you thinking?"

Give her a one-word answer. Keep attention withdrawn for at least 15-20 minutes. Now try again. If she's still acting up, ask her to leave immediately.

Don't text her again. 99% of the time, she'll text you first. Ask her to come over again. Same thing, but chances are she'll put out this time. If she still resists, hard next her.

You've tried your best.

CC_ee · 2018-04-08T17:45:23+00:00

This is a case where you should feel badly for the girl more than annoyed with her. She's been fed the lie that women are supposed to use sex as a weapon her entire life and she's just doing what she's been told to do, to her own detriment. You are likely the first guy who didn't give in and beg/fight for it.

TheDevilsAdvokaat · 2018-04-09T07:51:59+00:00

I would worry about this kind of girl...she came back because she "reconsidered".

What if a week later she reconsiders yet again...and reconsiders it into some kind of rape?

Joey_Lopez · 2018-04-15T18:13:01+00:00

Same happened to me recently. I was seeing this girl. She said that their was a rule that she can't sleep with a guy until she dated him for at least 3 months. I corrected her and told her it's a 3 date rule that if the girl doesn't give it up by the 3rd date you drop her. She was shocked saying imagine how much her body count would be if that were the case.

Then the end of the 3rd date came and she still was holding out. So I told her that it's the 3rd date and if nothing is happening then I'm just wasting my time and said goodbye. After that she started texting me a lot to come over for Netflix and chill. I ignored it at first cause I already wasted 3 dates on her for nothing. Then I decided to answer and see what she was talking about. She basically threw it at me as soon as I walked in the door.

Wolveryn · 2018-04-09T09:32:57+00:00

How deal with a girl who doesn't want to put out?

Imagine a Bill Hicks Laugh... "Nyahahahahahahahaha" then silence... followed by a deep slow motion:

"YOU DONT!"

HumbleRedPillStudent · 2018-04-09T14:27:36+00:00

This puts into articulation, a red pill truth that deserves Red Pill balance-- LMR is real and it's often weaponized for leverage. Pickup artists will advise you to use techniques to "blast through" LMR, but that is not balanced. LMR does not mean to keep stubbornly banging your head against a sexual wall...but the disingenuous practice of a woman withholding something that naturally happens spontaneously and organically should grate heavily on your patience threshold. As Rollo says in light of LMR bullshit, firmly excuse yourself from the situation and devote zero attention to the LMR girl. She'll either reconsider or it won't.

WestyWorld · 2018-04-08T22:23:15+00:00

I mean yes the nuclear option works but...you only met her twice?

I think it’s pretty rash to conclude she’s using sex as a weapon that early.

Some girls just don’t put out right away because they are actually more selective about who they will spread their legs for.

Of course almost any girl will do it for their dream guy. But just because she said no to going all the way on date one or two doesn’t mean much.

Unless she lied about her intentions prior to the date (i.e. tons of sexual innuendos).

Otherwise though I am glad it worked. You wanted sex, you got sex. Can’t argue with results.

KitchenRelation · 2018-04-09T01:48:19+00:00

Your post format was so beautiful among all the trash I've seen so I up-voted immediately.

Quality and succinct field report with no non-sense just like how it should be.

CourageousCauliflowr · 2018-04-10T08:40:50+00:00

How maniplulative. This was rape.

thenatty1 · 2018-04-08T18:54:48+00:00

Wouldn't it be more satisfying to shut the door on her face after she "reconsidered" and have another plate come over instead?

fauxVision · 2018-04-10T06:17:33+00:00

Did anyone else see the title as “dealing with a girl who doesnt want to pull out” LOL

varlogmessages · 2018-04-08T21:19:30+00:00

This could easily blow up in your face with serious reprecutions. Jail, rape accusations. You won't work, be able to rent, date others.

smoko90 · 2018-04-09T07:45:41+00:00

So I am new here, what is plate material mean?

strikethrough123 · 2018-04-09T18:04:21+00:00

I lost my virginity this way. Left the bitch's place because she wouldn't put out. Next day fucked her brains out with 0 LMR.

Rhynovirus · 2018-04-08T21:57:12+00:00

Yeah,

You might think this is a win...

But really- she might have been super into the idea of hot sex with an internet man. Then, she gets to your apartment and finds none of the ideas of which she had in her head to really satisfy her... IE a hot, sexy, fun, charismatic man who is just making the perfects moves and floods her feels with good vibration...

Maybe instead in her mind, she just meets some internet creep that expects her to put our right away with no escalation, no building, no vibing- as you have done.

Then when you kick her out, she is so fucking disappointed that she didn't get laid- that she says, "well fuck it, I am already here... okay buddy, I reconsider"

Knowing full well she's going to fuck and chuck you and considers you a low value dude.

Two sides to every coin man, you dissapointed her and forced her hand into fucking anyways,

Victory?

EDIT

Also, kissing or sucking a girls tits on a first date is pretty cringey,in my experience a fuck up... you like boobs, I get it. Put yourself in a woman's perspective. Babys suck on tits. When you are sucking a girls tits, you put her in the role of mommy. For a strange man to suck on a girls breasts... this is weird. Sucking on your woman's breasts should only be done with a woman you've had some commitment with or at least are a kinda recurring fuck buddy where comfort level is very high. This act alone coulda creeped her out enough to not want to fuck you.

Just sayin', Casanova

tokinbl · 2018-04-09T02:32:26+00:00

"Bitches - people in general - are replaceable" - that should always be the mantra