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submitted by Heathcliff--

I deleted a lot of my old posts; it wasn't the mods. I'm scared of being outed and doxxed, and I also broke up with my girlfriend of 5 years recently (who knows my reddit account). I'm still not sure whether it was the right call or not, but I've had literally countless messages from people asking for copies of old posts that they found useful.

I feel bad depriving you all of my masterpieces, so over the next few weeks I shall repost edited and improved versions of the ones that survived on my computer. Some posts, like "The Sadness Phase", are gone forever, so count yourself lucky if you got to read them.

For now, here is a post I made when I was new here that got a lot of traction when I first posted. I haven't edited it much, just cleaned up a few bits. Hopefully it will open some eyes, but it's mainly for those that were late to the party.


The Flake

I got flaked on recently... for a second time, by a girl who I thought I had wrapped around my finger. She's never done this before, and in fact, her behaviour recently has been colder, more distant. I reflected on what could have happened to cause the sudden shift in attitude; maybe she found a better Chad, maybe she's been doing drugs, maybe she's just at a stage in her cycle where she doesn't care for the Alpha dick.

But after thinking for a while, I realised why. I had broken frame with her; not for long, maybe like, a few sentences; I let her know a bit too much about me and what I was struggling with, and while at the time she seemed to not care too much, in fact seemed supportive, it changed our dynamic completely.


Girls will find lots of different ways to dress up a flake. It will normally come packaged as "Sorry I can't do today I feel kinda sick and I got a test tomorrow", sometimes they've "had a death in the family", sometimes they "have lots of work to do" or are "tired from work" sometimes their "car is playing up" or "dog is ill".

Regardless, a girl who is lazy and unreliable will come up with multiple different fabrications in order to skip out on meeting you. She needs to keep up appearances and feed her cognitive dissonance that she's a good, trustworthy girl. Reliable people don't flake out on plans made with their friends or a guy, but sometimes life just gets in the way you know?

Except for these girls, life just keeps getting in the way of meeting you.

You need to start picking up on what’s a flake and what isn't. Sometimes it's true, something really did come up that means she can't see you that night, but these are much rarer than you think. People, especially girls, don't have lives as exciting or varied as you imagine they do in your head. Accidents do happen, but not at the rate the average excuse-maker likes to think they do.

And if a girl has a date booked with a guy she likes, chances are that will be the highlight of her week and she's been thinking about it every day leading up to it, she's already picked out her outfit.

If a girl really wants to see you, she'll get over her dead grandma and leave that assignment undone in order to drive the 20 miles to your place. A girl who is head over heels for a guy will jump any obstacle to get the chance just to see his penis again.

I'd say 9/10 flake excuses are absolute bogus. Girls who come up with an excuse to not see you are telling you two things:

  1. She is still a good girl and "reliable" and it's just not her fault she can't see you today. This is an effort to keep up appearances, have plausible deniability, and feed her female solipsism; she can’t be a bad person for flaking, it’s just out of her control! The problem is, she can't be upfront about what the real reason is which is:
  1. You no longer give her the tingles enough that she can be bothered to see you. She's vetted you, assessed you and decided you aren't good enough.

Realise this now.


Girls do not flake on guys they are attracted to.

The thought of disappointing or letting down a Chad, or an Alpha guy they are really into, is mortifying for the average girl.

Their sole aim is to impress this guy enough that he chooses her to stick around with him. That he picks her over the countless other girls courting him at that moment.

Girls understand abundance mentality and understand that a top-tier guy has options. If she flakes on him, she will be replaced by the next thot who was ready and available.

Girls do not let down guys they are trying to impress. They are on their best behaviour. It’s like flaking on an important job interview, no one does it, even if their grandma died that morning.

So where does that put us?

If she flakes on you, more than once, it means you've blown it.

It means she's decided that you're the kind of guy she can skip out on because

a) She isn't attracted enough to try and impress you anymore

b) She knows you don't have any other options so you'll stick around anyway

c) She's come to a conclusion on who you are and where you stand in her own social hierarchy

Thus, she's stopped trying her best to stay in your good books. She knows that flaking is lame and that you'll probably be mad at her. She doesn't care. You aren't Chad anymore and the only guy she wants to impress is Chad.


The Demi-God

We've all experienced the 180 flip from a girl who thought you were cool and alpha and did all she could to keep you happy, to when she realises you're none of those things and actually kind of lame and then bam suddenly it's like meeting a different woman.

There's a reason for this:

Girls project an aura of mystery around guys they know nothing about, and they assume the best.

The less a girl knows about you, the more attractive you are to her.

This is because her hamster likes to spin any unknowable facts about you into good qualities. The more she has to wonder about your life, the more she assumes you've got your shit together, have a large group of friends, are always busy, and are banging multiple other girls.

In fact we all kind of do this, by default we assume strangers are more competent or better than we are. Our own inferiority complex and insecurity makes us assume that every new person we meet is cooler or doing better in life than we are, if we see a stranger doing something "odd" (like turning up in the wrong dress code for example) we don't automatically assume they're stupid or making a mistake, we first wonder if maybe there's something we're missing and that we're the ones who are mistaken. We assume the best, rather than the worst.

Women do this too, at a much greater level. They pedestalise every hot guy into demi-gods. They get giggly and submissive and cutesy around these guys because they assume these guys are vastly superior to them.

You'll notice this the first time you get into a new girls pants, it's nearly always the best, most animal fuck, because she sees you as absolutely above her in every way, and is trying her hardest to satisfy the superior man.

And as you fuck her more and more you'll realise that her investment and enthusiasm slowly diminishes, why is this, what’s changed?

She's got to know you better. And as she's done so, she's come to realise you are nothing like the idealised version of you that she's come up with in her head.

And the more she realises this, the less attracted she is to you. Eventually you'll figure out that she was attracted to the ideal version of you she'd hamstered into existence, an ideal that you could never accomplish.

And you'll start realising this with every girl you fuck, they expect you to be so much more than you actually are. They don't have a solid grasp of reality, they don't realise that the guys they are attracted to are just normal dudes on the inside. They see this big muscled alpha who passes all her shit tests but they never consider the fact that he farts and sometimes gets acne and has depressed days and his friend group is actually quite small. And when they do, well the attraction fades.

Beauty in Perfection


To put it simply, they want you to be perfect, they want you to adhere to the image they have of you in their head, they want you to essentially be the man of their dreams. Only the literal man of their dreams is enough, and when they realise you aren't him, you're nexted. You're flaked on. She flips from submissive and available to "just tolerating you".

Now we know she will never actually find "the man of her dreams" and will eventually settle on some beta shmuck once she hits the wall. This is the plight of the modern woman. Their standards are so inflated that no man can ever reach them, and this is because the standards for each woman are vastly different and vastly changing according to her own whims and greener grass.

Have a strong bulky, masculine blue collar father for her children, lust after a millionaire, have a guy who makes lots of money, complain he doesn’t spend enough time with her and cheat with Jamal from the gas station; deep, mysterious guitar playing band member, “hasn’t grown up” and needs to “get a real job”.

Women, even those who have met a decent mate who used to live up to her standards, will always lust after more. They always want better. They are qualifiers and consumers and they will never really know what a super good deal to settle for is, they will always want the next best thing, the next rung on the ladder. It is absolutely in their nature; they're programmed to swap out their man if a better option comes along. Why wouldn't they? The pre-historic women who stayed loyal in the face of upgrades were quickly bred out of the gene pool

The problem here is; they will lust after perfection until the moment they realise they have diminished bargaining power, and then they will begrudgingly settle for less than what they could have achieved before.

If women are "Sex Objects", then men are “Success Objects”, and women are attracted to the success, but they don’t really understand the true sweat and hardship needed to achieve that success, they don’t like to see how the sausage is made, and they are turned off by any sign of weakness, any slip up.

Show any weakness, any imperfection to a girl, and you will get a mental black mark in her head. Women treat frame-breaking, pussying out, being broke, anything “embarrassing” as mortal sins. They want the perfect man, and every slip up from the act you have to put on shatters that image of “perfect” she’s created in her head, and also pisses her off because she feels like she got swindled; she put so much effort into this guy she thought was the winning formula, only to see him lose his job or pussy out from a challenge.


Cracks in the Armour

Women completely overvalue weak moments and focus on them much harder than any of the attractive things about you, Briffaults law comes into play. You could be masculine, swole, charming, witty, foot the bill, sweep her off her feet, but if you trip on the doorframe as you leave the restaurant; ALL of that is shattered. The façade of perfection has been broken, and any past attraction she had to you is overshadowed by that big glaring mistake that she will use to take you down a peg.

Keep making mistakes and eventually you have a ghost or a flake. Once she realises you aren’t the perfect man of her dreams, she will move on and start testing the next guy. Women have abundance mentality and they do not waste time with guys they have already deemed imperfect. They know that if they drop quick and move on, the next guy might meet the standard.

You will never be able to meet up to the standards of your plates or girlfriend even if you are pure Alpha Bucks, this is impossible because their standards are always changing and readjusting to new base levels, and will always be too high. They dehumanise men into success objects to the point that they are not allowed to have any flaws.

It’s impossible for us to have no flaws, but women, especially hot women (alpha females), do not understand this. They want to find that one magical, perfect guy who has no flaws and they want that guy to swoop in, make her a princess and live happier ever after. At heart, women fantasise about these ideal situations and ideal guys, just like children; you will find few who are rational enough to understand the struggles, hardships and imperfections of the modern man (but there definitely are some).

And we all know that women fantasise about this shit, all you need to do is look at the popular female literature/television. It all follows the same fucking plot, scene by scene. Generic bland female is lusted after by demigod alpha bad boy/vampire/millionaire for no discernible reason, and he swoops her away and takes her to a much better world that is nothing like that the boring grey world she used to live in. This world has crime, or BDSM, or werewolves.

But the thing about this is; while most men consume our male reading/viewing-porn with the knowledge that it is all just fantasy and our lives won't go the way described; women truly believe that they deserve to be rescued by a Christian Gray type like this, and that it actually will happen to them one day (with no effort from them of course). And so they wait for "Mr Right" until their pussy dries up and their vet bills overwhelm them.

Joseph Campbell describes the Hero's Journey, the monomyth story that all men strive to emulate and fulfil in their own lives. Well, women have their own version of this; The Princess's Rescue.


Combating the problem

Her goal in "getting to know you" is to find out who you really are. She is trying to build a general idea of what you are, what you do, who you know, what your frame is like, where you're placed on her rating scale, and what your imperfections are, so that she has an excuse to drop you for “the next best thing*.

Her power comes from what she knows. She can only work with the information given. So there’s one easy way to win her game; control the information she has.

The less she knows about you, the more she has to guess, the more she has to idealise, the more she has to pedestalise.

If she knows little about you, she won’t know your weaknesses. She will start filling up the gaps with her own imagination. She will start imagining you as much cooler than what you really are. She does this because her solipsism doesn’t allow her to think that she is crushing on a loser, this mysterious guy she has the hots for must be awesome.

The more information about you that you give her, the more she has to disqualify you with. The less you give her, the more she idealises you into something better, as Rollo says (paraphrased): “A woman’s hamster is the best tool of attraction you can use”.

Keep her guessing. Always. Make her always be wondering where you are, who you’re with, what you’re doing. You could be in your basement watching anime, she doesn’t know that, she assumes you’re off at some high-profile event with girls hotter than her.

You could have the most dull, monotonous job ever, but if you refuse to talk about it, she starts wondering if you’re some CIA agent or secret billionaire.

Never tell her how much you make or what you really do unless it’s cool af, and even then hold back on the details. Definitely do not reveal your job or money if it places you in the beta bucks category. Don’t let her into your friendship circle, don’t let her meet your family, don’t tell her about your life story and childhood and exes.

Every scrap of information you give her exposes you as the imperfect human being you are to her, and for her, that’s not enough. She will use all this as ammunition to eventually discount you.

“Oh his friends are kind of lame and he’s a Trump supporter and still not really over his ex and he seems pretty disposable and low-ranking at work…. Etc etc etc”.

Do not have long conversations with her over text or even in person. You might think it makes you sound smart and you’re impressing her, but really she’s thinking “this guy talks too much and is too passionate about boring shit and he’s telling me all this, why is he wasting time with me doesn’t he have better things to do?”

The most attractive thing a woman can hear coming out of your mouth is “busy”.

Your life does not revolve around her, the less she can get her claws into your personal goings on, the more interested she is in you. If you are too busy for her all the time, she will go crazy trying to get into your pants. If you only ever communicate with her to set up meets, she will blow up your phone and social media constantly, if you’re always kicking her out after fucking because you got shit to do, she will go wild trying her hardest to see you again and again and again.

The more she knows about you, the less attracted she is to you. It’s simple.


Methods

Women love mysterious men. They can’t make their mind up on the guy yet, they haven’t seen his flaws and weaknesses, they overhype his strengths, and the guy seems perfect to them. The only way you can be Mr Right for a woman is to be dark and mysterious.

How do we incorporate this into game?

When Opening a Girl

Do not divulge too much information. Do not show off. Get her to ask questions of you, don’t just spill the beans outright. Don’t linger or hang around too long, always “be in a rush”, always “have somewhere to be”. Look busy, look important. Don’t try and impress her, get her to try and impress you, remember, you are the prize. Close quickly and then leave. Don’t text her straight away, wait a day or two. Always seem “busy” and like you have a faster paced life than hers.

Plates

Plates are disposable, treat them as such. They aren’t girlfriends and they are not there to be your emotional support, or your personal diary. Don’t rant at them, don’t talk to them about your politics or ideologies, and don’t tell them about your friends and family and work. Mention hobbies or interesting bits of information but only on a surface level. Always be too busy for them, kick them out after you’re done, ignore their texts sometimes. If they ask to meet up and you’re free, pretend you’re “too busy” anyway. Make the meetings on your terms. She needs to get this idea that you have shit going on outside of her and she’s just a side part of your life. She will be attracted to this, this is what women want to see.

LTR

Dread game is your friend here, and as they say “comfort kills attraction”. You never want your LTR to get too comfortable with you or “fully understand” you. Of course she will get a lot of information out of you because she’s the closest woman to you, but you can still be dynamic. Always be cultivating new hobbies, new friends, new missions. Never stagnate. Ignore her; sudden phone silence, busy days. Don’t let the relationship get boring, always be starting new things, new dramas, keep that engine fuelled. As soon as you settle out and flatline, that’s when she starts to wonder. Keeping yourself busy occupied and silent will keep her guessing. Guessing is the biggest aphrodisiac. She will think you’re at parties with supermodels and Saudi bankers. She’ll fuck you like she did when she was trying to impress you at the beginning of the relationship, because now she thinks she has competition and has to “win you back”. You might just be playing games on your computer, but if you ignore her “wuu2” texts, she thinks you’re snorting coke off a hookers tits in a private jet.

To sum up:

  • If a woman flakes on you more than once or twice, she is not attracted to you. Women do not disappoint guys they are trying to impress.

  • Women are all seeking the “perfect” guy with no weaknesses to sweep them off their feet.

  • Women test guys and can only qualify them with the information they have of them.

  • If you disappoint a woman too many times, she will next you.

  • It doesn’t take much to disappoint a woman, they undervalue strengths and overvalue weakness.

  • Women who don’t know much about you fill in the gaps of knowledge with idealised versions of you.

  • The less information you give to a woman, the more mysterious you are, the more attracted she is.

  • Stop talking too much and shut your fucking mouth.


[–]SuperCrazy07 207 points208 points  (13 children)

She will start filling up the gaps with her own imagination. She will start imagining you as much cooler than what you really are.

So true. Last year one of the personal trainers at the gym was just throwing herself at me. After a wedding, I mentioned that I hadn't worn a tux in almost 10 years...hell, I haven't worn a suit in almost 10 years.

She said "Oh my God, I always picture you in meetings wearing suits." Absolutely nothing I'd done, said, or the times she'd seen me outside of the gym should have led her to that conclusion.

[–][deleted] 94 points95 points  (1 child)

Hahahah!!!!! This is so classic.

Show up in a suit to the gym next time.

[–]SuperCrazy07 16 points17 points  (0 children)

If I had thought of this I would have.

[–]Desthr0 33 points34 points  (8 children)

You NEVER talk about what you CAN'T do. You ALWAYS talk about what you CAN do. Women don't give a shit about what you can't do (for them). They want to hear what you can do (for them). Why talk about something you've never done? Let's talk about how good you look in that damn tux/suit instead yeah?

[–]SuperCrazy07 15 points16 points  (7 children)

Well, in theory I agree with you.

But, I'm married. Even if I wasn't, I can easily think of 10 girls I know IRL that I'd prefer to this one (she's not cute). Finally, she was so into me this wouldn't have mattered.

Funny thing is that she will no longer speak to me, look at me, email me, etc. It finally hit her that I wasn't interested and she vanished.

I used to not be able to not see her (even when working out alone or with a different trainer)...then she vanished in November. I thought she quit, but nope about a month ago she walked by head turned in the other direction, didn't say hi, didn't give me a high five, etc.

[–]3whatsthisgarg 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Funny thing is that she will no longer speak to me, look at me, email me, etc. It finally hit her that I wasn't interested and she vanished.

So she moved the van she had parked on a public street right around the corner from the gym, conveniently left unlocked.

[–]JustDoMeee 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Someone give me a link to the van joke source, wanna read it again

[–]3whatsthisgarg 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Someone give me a link to the van joke source, wanna read it again

not a joke, completely true story (actually left out some even more outrageous details in ALL those, as no one here would believe)

check my submitted, title something like "they like it rough"

[–]JustDoMeee 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Shoot the outrageous details at me, I can take it.

[–]3whatsthisgarg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Shoot the outrageous details at me, I can take it.

They are too specific to me so they are too doxxable, not gonna do it. But all those women who were perfectly willing to do all that disgusting shit are now somebody's mothers. Think about that.

[–]SuperCrazy07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I hear she's hanging out in elevators with her friend looking for a man in boots.

[–]upstairstraffic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I was an intern at a bank last summer and one of the girls I worked with told me this woman in her 30's was asking if the "new guy" was a manager. I'm guessing its a similar thing.

[–]1cappadocianhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alpha men exude authority. They can't help but think the new good looking guy with the solid frame is in a leadership position in whatever he is doing.

The trick of course is what the other guy said: Always appear to be in control. Even if you have no idea what is going on, pretend you have it all planned.

[–]WhorehouseVet 28 points29 points  (0 children)

This shit is TRP 101, everyone needs to read it.

No wonder OP is an endorsed contributor, very well written and easily understood.

[–]uebermacht 20 points21 points  (6 children)

Again, a great contribution for TheRedPill from you!
However, you underestimate the power of technology, /u/Heathcliff--
As you mentioned your post of "The Sadness Phase", it can be found here: http://archive.is/Vc7oA
Feel free to look into https://archive.is/ and paste your deleted post links to find them.

[–]Heathcliff-- 1 points1 points [recovered]

Hey, thanks, this was very helpful.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep in mind peeps, that once something is on the net for a while... it can almost never be deleted.

This includes arrest records that have even been legally "expunged". So keep you nose clean and your reputation intact at all costs.

[–]shinycity 1 points1 points [recovered]

Lol nice work. Guy has the decency to come back and share some info and you won’t give him the simple courtesy of keeping his anonymity. Some people....

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s out there for anyone to read regardless if this dude posted the link here. Instead of bitching about it go read the posts.

[–]1TheProphetPhysiquiel 75 points76 points  (3 children)

This can be compared to the light switch effect. For women, multiple things cannot be true at once. They see life in black and white, and are incapable of seeing the grey in between. A man can't be her unicorn and go through his own struggles at the same time. Her "success object" is nothing more than that in her eyes, as you said men get dehumanized and become her avenue to her own success.

"I want you to open up to me!"

Ya, right, I used to fall for that one. My new response to this is "Ok, I've never really opened up to anyone before." They feel that you confided something deep to them, without actually saying anything at all. They want the illusion of your vulnerability without any of the content. The think they want to draw your sensitive side out of you, so give them what they want, through smoke and mirrors, and ends up not really being anything at all.

[–]WholesomeAwesome 8 points9 points  (1 child)

For women, multiple things cannot be true at once.

This is for all humans, the part of their mind called system 1.

For starters, system 1:

-Assumes all information at hand is all there is.

-Creates the most plausible (not probable) narrative with the information

thus, positive characteristics are more congruent with other positive characteristics, a mix is less congruent, thus halo and horn effect, thus so many more things. why learn the nuggets when you can learn the master theory behind it?

For women, multiple things cannot be true at once.

This is true when women don't use a rational conscious mind (system 2), and thus necessarily rely solely on system 1, their frontal lobe intercepting none and accepting all the hamster's work.

[–]redd_reality 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's as if they need to be caught between uncertainty and dread to remain interested.

But if you imagine living your life on an emotional plain instead of a logical one, that makes sense.

Dudes find solitude in knowing within a reasonable degree that things are under control. Women need the constant emotional highs and lows.

[–]kareemgoat69giggity 24 points25 points  (9 children)

Wait whats your situation with you deleting posts?

Nice post tho, good read^

[–]Heathcliff-- 1 points1 points [recovered]

I retardedly mentioned my reddit account to a friend I thought I could trust. He would frequent this subreddit and I bragged to him that I was quite popular on here, like a fag.

This friend turned around and betrayed me in regards to a girl. He went all BP and took her side over mine in a dramatic confrontation and made me question his loyalty.

There's enough info in my posts that should this "friend" decide to tell said girl about my account, or anyone else for that matter, I will be instantly recognised.

And word will get round at school that I'm a "pickup artist" that spends all his time writing about girls, which is very quick social suicide, despite years of meticilous image crafting on my part.

This friend has not revealed anything yet as far as I know, but it probably won't take much for him to turn on me again.

Law 2: Never put too much trust in friends. Learn to use enemies.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 7 points8 points  (1 child)

made me question his loyalty

There should be no question here. Your friend has proven to you that pussy will make him switch sides.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah this shit happens, I used to have a pick up blog back in the day that was reasonably popular, told literally one person in the world and convinced him to go out with me and stop being a whiny mopey bitch.

It was all good for a while until I fucked the girl he had a crush on (but of course no real dibs on since she didn't know he even had a penis), and then boom, the chain starts and the girl I was with suddenly is reading posts I wrote about how I fucked her.

You have to think about WHY as a man you want to help betas. Why? For me back then I saw a lot of myself in these betas because deep down I knew I still was like them; I identified with them and wanted to help because they were me. I assumed they would thus react like I did to this knowledge. Ain't making that mistake again, burned all my PU blog shit, new friend group, and now if PU or TRP comes up, it's "wow what a bunch of insecure losers. Disgusting."

In college it's social suicide. In the competitive careers, it's career suicide. Glad I learned this lesson in college

[–]KekistanRefugee 2 points3 points  (3 children)

word will get round at school

If you’re on a big/medium college campus I wouldn’t be worried.

[–]Heathcliff-- 1 points1 points [recovered]

I am not, and I'm also a very well known chad on campus.

[–]KekistanRefugee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At least you saw Law 2 in action. Seriously though mate, you’ll be just fine without too much damage to your reputation. I’m guessing you have a MUCH higher social status than your “friend”. Credibility at higher levels goes a long way.

[–]uNhoLeee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lmao. who gives a even if it was a small town..

so I heard you write about your exploits with woman "yeah but only on weekdays. On weekends Im superman".

"so"

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And word will get round at school that I'm a "pickup artist" that spends all his time writing about girls, which is very quick social suicide, despite years of meticilous image crafting on my part.

If it ever came to that, you're a life coach. These fools need your advice - you come here to teach people. You cant help being so good at scoring pussy.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 51 points52 points  (8 children)

This is the core issue as to why I advise against having social media accounts.

I think the only acceptable social media is Instagram, and should only be used when uploading pictures of you doing fun and exciting shit with no captions. If your picture can't speak for itself don't upload it. I don't have an Instagram, but there is a way men can use it to their advantage.

No Facebook. No Twitter. No Snapchat. None of that. If you have instagram, don't message women on there. Don't talk to them unless they message you. Don't like their photos. Don't comment on their photos. Only use Instagram to upload occasional caption-free images of you doing interesting shit.

This is also why having your early dates with women at places where you are just going to sit there and talk(coffee shop, restaurant) is a bad idea. Because all you can do is talk. Talking has no upside and too much downside. The best you can do is stay even. You can't elevate yourself by talking, all you can do is drag yourself down.

It's a zero sum game. You might think you are doing yourself a favor by talking too much or letting out too much info. But in order to attract a woman you must be the best option she has at the moment. If you devalue and depreciate yourself you leave the door open for her to view another man as a better option, and then its over. Keeping your mouth shut isn't so much as helping yourself as it is keeping the door closed for a better option(in her mind) to waltz through the door.

That is the core issue of flaking. There was a better male option for her. If you are her best male option, she won't flake. Her top male option will always be the one most mysterious, because the gaps she fills in will always be positive. Remain mysterious.

[–]TunedtoPerfection 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Twitter is useless, only useful if your a media presence or trying to scam men via fake findom bullshit. No one gives a fuck about your 120 characters.

Don't invite women to be "friends" on facebook, instant attraction killer they will spend the whole night going through your entire lifetime of posts then flake never to return. Have one but lock that shit down to display basically what you would on instagram to non friends. Use it as another messaging service, but people seem to like whatsapp better so I would suggest that. A good one for facebook is keeping mutual friends on, gives social status if you have a lot of friends in common as well as the ability to be "the side guy" when you have little to none. The amount of very attractive women I have fucked because we knew no one in common is insane. When she knows she can fuck you then go back to real life and no one is gonna find out, that is when you get pornstar sex on a consistent basis from that hot lawyer chick you met at a music festival.

Instagram is the big one though, honestly if you want women that are currently in the 18 - 22yr old range you pretty much need an instagram unless you cool with finding the ones that like older men specifically. Even then in a few years even "older men" will need some sort of instagram presence I believe. Where guys fuck up with instagram is either posting too much or not enough. Anytime you do something cool, take a million pictures your not the next Andy Warhol so stop trying to "frame it all perfect with the perfect lighting". Your going to do much better just picture blasting everything and picking out good ones to post later. Even better now you have a good bit of pictures for "slow" weekends. Feel like staying home on a Saturday night and playing a video game, cool post some picture of your vacation to a tropical island that happened 2 years ago... "Can't wait to go back!".

Instagram is not a place to be witty. Quick, short, simple, emotion provoking that's the target. Picture of Notre Dame Cathedral from 10 years ago "Inspires me to do great things all the time". Good ones are taking a day to go to a nice spot for a sunset(beach, mountain top,hiking path) and just snapping away like hell. You can literally get 200 back up posts from 1 sunset on the beach, who the fuck is gonna know it was all shot in the same 10 minutes, no one. That do not care. It a cool sunset with some bullshit "Nature is beauty" caption. Same with vacations, trips to different cities, concerts, breweries, whatever.

I don't have a snapchat But I have friends that do. If you are at all trying to fake anything stay away from it. Snapchat requires constant, new, exciting adventure to help you. If your not balling every weekend it's best to stay off and just have the instagram. With instagram you can "save up" cool photos and videos and post whenever to give the illusion your doing awesome shit all the time. Snapchat that is much harder to do, although it isn't very hard to just take a bunch of short videos of a dark crowded club every weekend if your going out, so I'm not sure on this one.

[–]Lest23 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What do you consider posting too rarely?

[–]TunedtoPerfection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Too much is daily unless your in the younger crowd of below 25yr. Too rarely would be less then once a week. I shoot for ~3 post a week more centered around the weekends. During the week I might post some old recycled content or "wish I was back here" stuff. If I have an event I'm promoting I'll pimp that shit a few day before to give a heads up where good music can be heard through the week.

I don't have much a following, but if it starts growing I'll seperate and have a "personal" and a "business" account. Business accounts you gotta post daily to keep your "tribe" engaged and you gotta do your best to respond to comments and concerns early on when you have a smaller base

[–]MrAnderzon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You dont like the coffee date. Suggest an alternative? Coffee date is cheap when compared to other dates

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Talking has no upside and too much downside

Clearly you are in need of education. Learn some Speed SeductionTM.

My game is 99% talking. I can capture and lead a woman's imagination a lot easier with words than with stupid pictures (that I don't have, because I'm broke, and can't afford to do "exciting" things that I don't want to do because I'm not even into that shit.) But a well delivered bit of poetry containing some sensory rich descriptions accompanied with some artful anchors that subconsciously associate those body sensations with my [ugly] face can get her dripping in as little as 90 seconds.

"So, Debbie, when you see someone you really like [sexual tone, frame my face gesture] what's the first signal you get, the first recognition you have on the inside, that lets you know that you're really, really, attracted to this person [self-point]? Where does that feeling first start?

Aaaaaaaaand you've got her process for arousal.

[–]TruthSeekaaaaa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think the only acceptable social media is Instagram, and should only be used when uploading pictures of you doing fun and exciting shit with no captions.

What's your thoughts on posting a pic with your pet?

[–]Omnibrad 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Playing with your dog is fun and exciting shit.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (5 children)

This might explain something I've been thinking about lately. I've noticed that higher n-count girls will be quick to say "Wow you're quiet", "you should talk more", and that kind of shit. More inexperienced, shy girls almost never say this to me. I'm not particularly outgoing but I would like to think I'm a decent conversationalist.

After reading this post I'm thinking that the experienced girls do this as a technique to weed out guys more quickly. "Talk more, tell me about your family", "Okay well my dad got sick recently and it was rough for me" (I would never say this, just an example). Boom! Weakness. He's out.

Not only should her "perfect" guy have looks, money, and status, he should be able to produce a constant stream of "he's fuckable" verbal bullshit tailor made for her. A fuckable man presents an image that garners attention. But after she has fucked enough guys, an extra pre-sex qualifier is added.

[–]JTT112 1 points1 points [recovered]

When girls say "wow you're quiet" is this an indication they're interested? Because a few girls have said this to me in the past, I've shrugged it off and presumed the weren't interested. Obviously other factors come into consideration as well

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my hyper-sensitive beta days I took it as a direct insult. Now, I take it that I have some kind of mysterious aura/attraction that they feel like they have to uncover.

Think about it, would a high-smv girl approach the acne faced D&D nerd sitting in the corner and tell him to join the party and talk more? Except in extreme cases of pity, I don't think so.

[–]Bandos15 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It might just mean that you are quiet but who knows

[–]mountainbiker178 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it just means they know you well enough to determine a change in behavior. My daughters will say this to me sometimes.

[–]1Metalageddon 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Never fear, plenty of people have archived your stuff. It's likely a call for individual missing ones will be enough to get them from somewhere.

Good luck with the doxxing, it sucks. My personal preference would be deleting the account, not the posts.

[–]TJmartimn 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Man.... now I’m starting to think how great it used to be prior to Facebook and social media they only had your word to go by or the word of people who knew you

[–]1Metalageddon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's ups and downs to both.

It's how you choose to use it that matters.

[–]uebermacht 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The most valuable posts has been archived anyway so there is no point in deleting them.

[–]tam8a_tomato 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Exactly. OP just needs a new reddit account.

If he's worried about his karma then what could probably be organised is to tell the mods what new account he's using and no one else. They could make sure he's still able to become an endorsed contributor after building up his account with a few posts.

Then just make personal examples from someone else or whatever.

Until then he's causing unneeded drama in the subreddit and potentially among peers who know his account. By deleting his threads he's embedding all this drama into his name, we remember it, then removing the context, and his worth to trp.

You guys even remember the topic of the last post he made off the top of your head? Now, how many people remember him because he's the guy who deletes his content? Exactly.

[–]woodie_wood 6 points7 points  (2 children)

“You could be in your basement watching anime”. Fucking hilarious man.

[–]egg231 1 points1 points [recovered]

HAHAHAHA, that's totally me. Women will never suspect a thing, actually it is a fetish of mine. To indulge beta activities then behave like a total ALPHA when I'm with them.

[–]S-Blaze -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Look like a rockstar Just chill at home as much as I can.

[–]Rian_Stone 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Really glad you're bringing these back. I cannot believe I missed all of them.

[–]Black_m0ngoose 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Men who are high value are rare.

Women are the consumers who define the value of the product.

First come, first serve.

A woman will not pass up her "golden ticket" out of fear of the next girl locking the male down.

Women don't enjoy competition. They enjoy selecting.


A woman is never busy for the man she's "in love" with. The whole world is on hold in the drama that is her life- and you're the supporting actor.

[–]1Ramesses_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wait so were you cheating on your 5 yr girlfriend with Sad Eyes?

[–]redd_reality 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Women dehumanize men into success objects to the point they can have no flaws.

Jesus. This is so fucking true it hurts.

I feel like the majority of women are haunted by this complex. Some even recognize it as the greatest source of their unhappiness, but can't seem to shake it for the life of them.

This is also why nags are so fucking powerful. If a woman can pick at the tiniest of scabs in an effort to devalue me, what will happen when I point to major, fundamental flaws about her? Not in a mean way, but in an observational way.

Turning the mirror back on them is crucial. One must be absolutely sure not to break frame and do this out of a reaction, however. It has to be calm, cool and calculated. Amused mastery is essential.

[–]FamiliarSummer 1 points1 points [recovered]

Is this just imperfect people picking on each other because they don't like themselves or is this really how life has to be?

[–]redd_reality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the surface, sure.

But if you look at it from sexual dynamics perspective, women are born valuable. They hit puberty and a few years later they are at maximum value without any toil. Men, on the other hand, hit puberty and a few years later they're value is about zero, relatively.

Struggle, hardship and scars devalue a woman, but increase a man's value, as masculine values involve strength, courage, honor, toughness etc whole feminine values involve compassion, nurture, kindness, giving etc.

From this perspective is makes perfect sense that in order for a woman to choose the best mate, she must judge him. This is the origin of the shit test. It's largely unconscious by women, they're physiology requires they seek out and magnify flaws.

This judgement, which leads to males being rejected is what leads men to improve themselves and has probably been the single most important reason for the propagation of the human species.

To end, I'd say, yes it is less-than perfect people nagging each other, but what it does is keep men socially and economically fit, while simultaneously ensuring women fuck and pass on the strongest genes.

It ain't very nice, but nature isn't very nice. At least by understanding this men have a chance to make something of themselves and be successful with women.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 4 points5 points  (2 children)

What an outstanding post. The nature of reddit makes such gold nuggets getting lost in time. It's good to dig them up on a regular basis. Thank you.

The relevant Rational Male post about this is "Imagination", which by coincidence I was actually reading this morning (in the book. Just started my Nth re-reading) . Your post extends perfectly on this absolute basic TRP concept.. on which I still regularly trip up.

[–]FearTheGoatse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for reminding me i have the books. I need to reread them, its been awhile. "The Rational Male" for those who dont know is a book (2 books but 1st is better) that is a redpill gold mine. Most of the content can actually be found here or the Rational Male blog, though the books offer everything in one location that can be read on the go. Highly recommended content that i assure you most on this sub will agree with.

[–]coriollanvs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great post.

As success objects, it's our first priority to hide our failures and flaws.

As sex objects, a woman's first priority is to hide her blackheads and stretch marks.

Isn't it too obvious?

[–]TruthSeekaaaaa 2 points3 points  (2 children)

LTR

You assume your LTR accepts everything you do. IMHO, GFs won't tollerate some shit for too much, but I might be wrong.

Also, your small tutorial on LTR seems like a second job, probably if it is the only way to mantain the relationship, it doesn't worth our time.

Anyway great post obv

[–]MrCarepig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah and they complain about that to their girl friends and put a time frame. They talk like drunken sailors when they're together.

[–]MrCarepig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah and they complain about that to their girl friends and put a time frame. They talk like drunken sailors when they're together.

[–]I_have_secrets 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is an incredible post. Very well put and very true. Experienced this a few times.

[–]notonlyplace 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If she flakes on you, more than once, it means you've blown it.

This is a indirect form of control, if it's your fault, you can change yourself thus get the girl, good like trying to control people though manipulation, I say it's a numbers game, because I see way to many chads(guys who girls hit on regularly) get flaked on

If you only been with 2-3 women, than yea you should start looking at yourself heavily, because it is probably your fault , and you should analyze every text you sent, but I found I can do everything perfect and still not get her, than I try and change myself and miss a girl I would of had.

I don't need to focus on being mysterious I need to focus getting her on a date, If she responds to you at all there is attraction, invite her out, push for meet.

What's funny is I once got a girl by trying to be mysterious, playing it cool, turns out she was one of the worst people I ever met, If a girl isn't going to give you any leeway and wants perfect, you will find she is 110% out for herself with no empathy , It was a horrible experience I don't wish to repeat

[–]VirginPlaya 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reality check.

We all humans, we all make mistakes and are flawed to an extent. A person who expects you be perfect and judges you harshly (leaves you) for making clumsy non-malicious mistakes, is deeply scared (there's experiences of abuse and neglect in his past).

Striving to be perfect for other's (and in general) and putting the blame on oneself for "braking frame" is fundamental based on low self esteem.

You can't become confident by perfecting behaviour thay is based in low self-esteem tactics, you guys (this concerns specifically idea of maintaining perfect facade at any cost).

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, my friend. I am looking forward to your next re-post as this one is a pure home run! Not over the wall or even upper deck. Literally over the wall of the stadium and bouncing down the street in traffic!

I haven't seen it's match. Ever.

[–]asell0808 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is, without a damn doubt, the best post I have ever read on this sub. I appreciate the wisdom and time put into this.

[–]RedDespair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This has been my experience as well.

Most people don’t know that you’re referring to the hot thots 8-9-10s that everyone wants to bang.

This does not refer to that “special “ chubby 7 of a wife that most men struggle in the dead bedrooms of the married TRP.

You are instantly nexted before it comes to that

[–]SteveYunnan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Great post. I understand the basic idea behind all of this, and I totally agree. What I would like to know is how to best answer or deflect all the "interview questions" during the date. Women are like detectives, they want to get as much dirt on you as they can, so they will ask lots of questions like: "What kind of work do you do?", "How long have you lived here?", "When did you break up with your last girlfriend?", "How many girls have you dated?", etc. etc., the list goes on. Obviously, you can't just shut your mouth during a date, so how do you find the sweet spot of saying just enough to keep her entertained, but not saying too much as to spoil the mystery?

When it comes to texting, I also have a hard time finding that "sweet spot", as it seems that not texting enough will make her think you've lost interest (hence she will look elsewhere), yet texting too much can make you seem desperate and destroy the attraction. If it's a girl you meet online, they usually wont agree to meet unless you've gotten to know each other for a little while via texting first, so I'm wondering where that fine line between "keeping her entertained and interested" and "divulging too much about yourself" lies, and how to stay balanced in the sweet spot.

[–]Leonidas_79 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Be cheeky and deflect/amplify. For example:

Her: “How many girls have you been with?”

You: “I stopped counting at 97 ;)”

That being said, you need the proper delivery to constantly pull this shit off. If done right you’ll get a laugh out of her and something like “OMG you’re so bad!”

[–]samurai96 1 point2 points  (1 child)

"Joseph Campbell describes the Hero's Journey, the monomyth story that all men strive to emulate and fulfil in their own lives. Well, women have their own version of this; The Princess's Rescue."

Holy crap dude, you basically just said what I've been theorizing in my head for a while now. Ever since I read his book I wondered if his journey could be applied to women. I think the anwer is 'on rare occasions', but only because the human psyche is pretty malleable and can sometimes take up uncommon archetypes.

This is probably why the I disliked force awakens, Ray's character felt forced and narratively awkward, precisely because it is uncommon and not naturally occurring for females to embody the hero's journey.

At the same time I recently watched a video by Colttaine about women's literature and media. To cut it short, women's movies/literature are about a mediocre protagonist miraculously attracting some amazingly unrealistic man, who ends up loving her "for who she is". They rarely involve overcoming one's shortcomings and character flaws to achieve the unachievable.

Even Disney's Moana seemed to be more about Maui's self development than the girl in the fucking title. Riddle me this; regardless of romance or action, when was the last time a movie about a female protagonist portrayed her as a loser? And I mean like a real loser, like Max from A Goofy Movie or Johnny (Rowan Atkinson) from Johnny English? I can't even think of one! Ella Enchanted? That's one but she was smart in the beginning and wasn't a loser as much as she was poor.

There seems to be both an unwillingness to examine female vulnerability and female self development, and I think its because deep down in our psyche, our awareness of how truly vulnerable and weak females are scares us.

[–]TruthSeekaaaaa 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Right now I have to get my shit in order and I'm living again with my parents. I know that it isn't that masculine so I'd like to avoid tell it to girls. Get my life together is my top priority but at the same time I want to game some girls and I don't want to hinder my chances because of my whereabouts.

Do you think that mistery can help me out here? I can tell the girl that I want to be picky about which girl can see my house or something like that. What do you think?

[–]MrCarepig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its ok to lie, more like not give exess info. Hell its their game, they are pro at not giving info.

[–]StandardBoilerplate 1 points1 points [recovered]

Wtf? Just fuck her in your car.

[–]MrBowlfish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A lot of good advice here that many newbs forget, especially about maintaining some mystery as long as possible. However, I take issue with 2 points you made.

I would contend that girls do flake on guys they are attracted to. For example, if girl meets hot guy because he's in town for a week playing with his band but she's looking for something more serious, she may skip the animal sex and wait for a more local Chad to come into her life.

Secondly, I don't think tripping on the doorframe is enough to shatter everything leading up to that moment. A real Chad can play that off and laugh about it and it's no big deal. If you were using it as a simile , yes you could really mess up if you deleted your whole frame right in front of her by crying at dinner or sucking some guys dick, but simply tripping, nah.

[–]NovumKnight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The trick is to always flip the script. If shut her out randomly from your feelings. Get primal and aggressive randomly. Other times (especially when it matters) act like a civilized millionaire. Its not about being better all the time but convincing her that you are in the manner in which shes leaning at the moment. Women are complicated so how you carry yourself should be seemingly complicated too. Sometimes you should give her what she wants, other times you shouldn't.

When it comes to being up against a guy that may be more successful than you you must remain calm and seemingly unbothered. Remain confident and unwavering. Treat him like you are equals and if she starts leaning towards him as a possible replacement introduce her to a new female friend.

Thats why they call it playing the game. Im from the black community (cause im black), and guys in the black community are so keen on the games that women play that they play even worse games. Which is part of the reason black women have alot of anger towards black women and possibly why other women from different races think black men are "different" or "exotic". There is a benefit here tho I guess.

[–]Retstortion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Golden post, loved this.

[–]IcyToe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Masterpiece right here . Would like to read more of your works .

[–]Questionnaire7 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Definitely do not reveal your job or money if it places you in the beta bucks category.

How does a job put you in BB territory? Its your attitude and frame that do that.

always “be in a rush”

This goes against the 48 laws. Can't remember which one

[–]AdamNJH 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Revealing your job doesn't necessarily put you in BB, however you are satisfying her hamster by telling her what you do. Especially if it's boring. Best thing to do is play the amused mastery card unless you actually have a cool/high status job.

[–]Questionnaire7 1 point2 points  (2 children)

How would you play amused mastery to: "what do you do for a living?"

If my understanding of A.M. is right, this could be a response: "Ex meth cook turned FBI informant. Know anyone I can setup?"

Is that the general idea?

[–]AdamNJH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, just play around with the answer.

[–]Leonidas_79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yaaaas that’s a really good one. You should always have a “set playbook” of answers for the usual questions and shit tests. Preparing a bit goes a long way.

[–]qwertyuiop111222 0 points1 point  (3 children)

You could be masculine, swole, charming, witty, foot the bill, sweep her off her feet, but if you trip on the doorframe as you leave the restaurant; ALL of that is shattered. The façade of perfection has been broken, and any past attraction she had to you is overshadowed by that big glaring mistake that she will use to take you down a peg.

Is there anything you can do about this?

[–]GoCleanYourRoom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post is fucking gold.

[–]PoundMyPoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your contributions man

[–]bookloverphile 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What’s a “frame”? I always forget. Isn’t basically a “persona” or “aura” that you project. Like a dominant frame vs a beta frame?

[–]Obsidian743 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good read. I needed the refresher. I've been out of the game too long and broke frame recently. Girl last-minute decided the night turned out to be a "girls night" instead. I'll be back into it soon enough.

[–]h4nkz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly what I needed to read right now. Thanks a lot

[–]JensenMse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post is so relevant to my life right now.

Just last evening, my LTR was pressing me to open up myself more to her because "she doesn't know me anymore", and in my mind only one word was circling: next.

[–]Yonski3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sidebar worthy shit right here

[–]mrHappyPotatoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Like I always say. You have one chance with one girl per once in a lifetime.

[–]Zech4riah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great content. I think you could have addressed the girls who have overtly asked you to commit in the "The Flake"-section. Because when they notice you won't give commitment, they first go distant and then start to flake.

[–]infamous3238 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a fantastic post.

If a girl really wants to see you, she'll get over her dead grandma and leave that assignment undone in order to drive the 20 miles to your place. A girl who is head over heels for a guy will jump any obstacle to get the chance just to see his penis again.

This is so true. This girl I'm currently seeing will skip class to see me if I tell her I'm around that night, and has never flaked on me. Once you see this in practice, it's easy to know when a girl isn't interested in you.

Stop talking too much and shut your fucking mouth.

It took me a while to internalize this point, because I'm a talker, but it's very important. If you talk too much you aren't a mystery any more, and women love mystery. Less is more.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They dehumanise men into success objects to the point that they are not allowed to have any flaws.

It has always been difficult for me to observe this repeatedly with so many women acting this way with relationships. There are a lot of men who became very good at hiding their negative emotions to be attractive, who are now in prisons or cemeteries, because their emotions never had a productive outlet and built up to where an outlet had to be made. It gets even darker when you look at how it contrasts with male issues and female-leaning focus in our biology and society, our own biology is constantly working against us in addressing the issues of men and boys. Those who care can still tackle these issues because we have enough intelligence to be aware of them. But I think it will take decades at the very minimum, and the difficulty will be immeasurable.

[–]4thAndLong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Solid post. Shutting my mouth has done wonders for my game. When you speak less you also need to learn to choose what you do say more wisely. Make your words mean more and be direct.

[–]SextupleRed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The timing of this piece being published here could not be more impeccable. One of my plates is in the midst of breaking and this article couldn't have been written better.

I thought of turning her into LTR before the attitude and behaviour changed. I have decided to next her instead of going through the emotional battle.

[–]uNhoLeee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

remove the angst and it will be a good post. the core values generally apply though.

[–]cakeUser1 1 points1 points [recovered]

One of the most valuable posts on TRP I've seen so for. New here though. I have a hard time with keeping stuff to myself. I wonder if there's TRP threads for aspie/autistic people? If there's any information geared towards autistic people.

[–]Heathcliff-- 1 points1 points [recovered]

I made a whole post on it, check my history.

[–]muchbro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd like to start out by saying excellent post. I think you have perfectly highlighted what is likely the biggest flaw in my game as of right now. The last three dates I’ve went on, I maintained what I thought was great conversation for 2-3 hours. Then all three girls ghosted me.

My question is, "What should I focus on talking about then?". I typically have very little in common with women, as they have no hobbies and they like stupid shit. So if we are not allowed to talk about each other, it pretty much just leaves bullshit small talk. Also if you don't say enough, you risk being dismissed for being socially retarded.

Obviously I could just go on dates that minimize talking, but my go to date is drinks. Logistically it just makes the most sense seeing as I live downtown next to all the bars.

[–]yomo86[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"When she wants you, or even if she just likes you, she will not make it hard."

I don't know who put this nugget of wisdom on TRP but this is essential knowledge. Girls who, even subconsciously, want to get fucked by a certain man, will not make him jumping through hoops.

[–]TitanUcheze -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You really should put a TLDR at the top.

[–]presto_manifesto -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

You're actually really short and obese and stink like shit, don't you? Yeah you do. You stink like shit while being fat and short. A woman outside your mommy never even touched your dick.

[–]Breezertree -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Wow. This is absolutely pathethic.

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