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Red Pill TheoryThe Healer and the Tank (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]modTheRedPike[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (6 children)

/u/GayLubeOil better turn up the heat or he's going to lose the crown for The Trigger King.

Anyways, stop petting the visiting hens, people. Women are not banned from TRP, but announcing it is (and hey, they could be dudes too). Eventually I'll get tired of banning the offender while nuking the petting posts and start gassing entire threads.

[–]KingGoy 167 points168 points  (3 children)

Share some of the angry PMs

[–]StickguyMB 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I'd like to see them too hehe

[–][deleted] 189 points190 points  (7 children)

It sounds so simple when put into words like this.

It’s a shame most women these days find being a good wife “degrading.”

+1

[–]420KUSHBUSH 87 points88 points  (1 child)

Ah yes but taking four cocks on the side while weasling a way for it to not be considered "cheating", cucking someone, and using Tinder and shit isn't "degrading". I was blind but now I see

[–]_DiscoNinja_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

In their defense most men nowadays aren't worth shit. OP's post is describing two ideal people.

[–]newName543456 4 points5 points  (0 children)

One would think "female empowerment" would mean women being able to choose which way they want to go, business career or housewife, but apparently not so...

The irony of standing against slut-shaming and such as "sexist", while shaming women for choosing to become housewives.

[–]guifawkes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To find a woman that you’d sacrifice your life for, is the most valuable and priceless thing you can have “this side of Eden”. Just short of heaven.

[–]Pie_021 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They put themselves out of business. Most have nothing to offer. Most girls I have seen my friends with just want to waddle into a relationship, reap the benefits of his hard work, then after some time hamster their way on to another guy. Doesn't help that people here have a lot of money and the hypergamy works overtime.

[–]uwey 157 points158 points  (0 children)

Japanese had it explained the best:

Best woman is the one who would love you like a mother when you wake up, respect and take care of you as your sister during the day, and please you in bed like a lustful whore in the night.

I know lots of career woman, some of them do have both, but is rare.

Most woman crash and burn before even reach mid management level.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (14 children)

Very well written, as a Chinese I can say that the traditional ways are still expected from us so it helps out quite a lot.

However, I've been seeing more and more Chinese girls becoming Westernized and develop grandeur images of a career life. Most Chinese guys my age have stopped dating Chinese girls and started dating other races that adhere to more feminine traits.

I have seen most Chinese girls my age having trouble already looking for guys.

[–]CursingWhileNursing 39 points40 points  (13 children)

I remember a documentation about chinese women in their 30s already being called "leftover women". And I can understand why that is, most of their misery is self-made.

There was a woman in her early 30s in Shanghai who was one of those leftover women. Quite attractive (it was mentioned that this was true with chinese beauty standards in mind as well), successful business woman, but no husband or boyfriend. Because no one could meet her standards.

There was an arranged meeting with a potential husband. Also good looking, he had his own small company and he seemed to be a nice person. And she treated him like a piece of garbage.

But I guess this is true everywhere in the world. As a nurse, I have seen lots and lots of female nurses marrying male doctors. Now nowadays the number of female physicians skyrocketed, in my hospital there are more female than male doctors by now. And I have not seen a female doctor dating a male nurse even once. Because as a male nurse, I would be clearly below their dignity, no bloody way this would happen. Maybe another doctor in a leading position, but a nurse? What's next, the bloody garbage man?

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    [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    This would assume that there are a lot of Alphas in the market. But you have to remember that most Chinese guys are being bred today to become Betas.

    We are pressured to mix with our own race because of our customs but with the increase in BP males and RP females, most Chinese are marrying outside of the race.

    This is alarming because one of the customs that is important for the Chinese is actually the Healer-Tank dynamic. With the continuous decrease in these relationships, the east is becoming more like the west an alarming rate.

    [–]Merwebb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    That is indeed a sad thing

    [–]jethreezy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    But you have to remember that most Chinese guys are being bred today to become Betas.

    I'd disagree with this point of yours. It's hard to pinpoint the actual direction of causation here imo. Are Chinese guys really being bred to become betas, or are most of them simply predisposed to be betas in the first place, so that a beta lifestyle and worldview is what they gravitate towards.

    The latter has been more inline with my observations about members of my own family and circle of friends. Of course most men regardless of race are bluepilled, but Asian men seem to be particularly susceptible to putting the pussy on the pedestal.

    [–]Emmenthalreddit -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Girls these days want to leave their parents house and need a job to pay rent. I don't think it's necessarily wanting to play the mans game but needing to. And they may just want love and don't want to go gold digging. I think some are just trying to live their lives. You pose it a little too black and white.

    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Too true, my own cousin (female) is the first doctor in our family, she's 28 already and our grandparents are scrambling to find her a BF before her 30s. She's a very strong woman I can say, doesn't take shit from anyone.

    Everyone of the older generations are wondering why she can't get a decent Chinese Alpha BF. She ended up getting a Non-Chinese BF, which devastated her parents. They ended up accepting him but our grandparents and other elders still don't know about him. I haven't met him but I'm 99% sure he's a Beta, knowing ny cousin.

    Shit's gonna hit the fan when the others find out.

    [–]jethreezy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Your cousin is a doctor in China or in the West?

    Cuz I know being a doctor in China isn't exactly that difficult, as it only requires a bachelors iirc. So the female hypergamy shouldn't be activated that strongly for female Chinese doctors. But if she's already a practicing doctor in say America or the UK, then ya I can totally see why she'd think she's the shit and better than almost all dudes. Chinese or not.

    [–]Whitified 6 points7 points  (4 children)

    the whole "leftover women" thing is overblown gynocentric BS

    Chinese urban women are notoriously bitchy. The numbers are in their favour (more men than women I believe) and the increased wealth etc allow them to make ridiculous demands of men. Some men there respond by going MGTOW and the women are crying "boohoo leftover". Bitch, have you even heard of 'cat ladies' in the West?

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    I diagree. The term "leftover woman" is very powerfull tool and its what's keeping the Chinese from turning to shit. As you said there's already a large difference in number of males vs females and yet its not as bad as in the west because there are still some feminine women. (starting ti get rare though)

    Part of it is because how outspoken the elders are and their disdain for leftover women. They are publicly shamed. However, when their generations dies, expect the Chinese culture's shit to go from 0-60 in less than 10 years. It's going to be that bad.

    While the term "cat lady" carries a negative tone in the west, they are pittied more than they are shamed. Small difference in attitude but a very big difference in outcome.

    Think of the "American" Cartoon the Simpsons. They have an Old Cat Lady Character there and she's portrayed as a psychopath. People actually FEAR her. She has power over the people. She can inflict a sense of fear on others and it gives you an idea as to what the West thinks of Cat ladies.

    In the East, once a woman is a leftover woman, she loses all power she had. She has no right to be choosy and people don't care about her at all. Very effective IMO

    [–]Whitified 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    True true. Women fear shame more than death

    [–]jethreezy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Cuz to women, shame = ostracization = death, at least subconsciously.

    [–]jethreezy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The numbers are in their favour (more men than women I believe)

    This is hardly true of urban centers in China. Because whatever deficit in females that did naturally exist would have been plugged up by migrating females from rural areas. Which is why there are reports of entire "bachelor villages" littered throughout the less developed parts of the country.

    And of course the migratory behavior of the rural females is itself primarily motivated by female hypergamy. Why stay in your village, work the fields and marry the frugal and traditionally minded farmboys you've known all your life, when she can move to any one of a myriad of nearby towns and cities that have been quickly developing and urbanizing over the past couple decades and find herself an educated and cultured city boy?

    [–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (19 children)

    The healer tank dynamic is REAL. I remember back when I played Overwatch (before I stopped gaming) that the minority of female Overwatch players were extremely likely to pick the character 'Mercy.' Mercy is a female doctor angel type character that heals the Tanks and the Damage Per Second or 'DPS' characters (both of which require more skill to be great at as opposed to Mercy).

    Overwatch released stats on the subject that showed that even though you can play any character that you want in any game, many females would ONLY PLAY MERCY EVER. The female Mercy 'main' became common enough to be an in-game cliche. I believe that it is no coincidence that a support role to the men, combined with the low skill cieling, combined with the fact that Mercy is a sexy nurse (just take one look at the gamer porn) draws women to take thier evolutionary place as a support to the large number of highly skilled men in-game on DPS that have practically negative reaction time, better skill, etc.

    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

    I used to play the firefight mode on Halo ODST all the time with my sister. We had set roles every game we would play. She would always drive the warthog (support) and I would always man the turret (tank) and get out and run around if needed be to get better weapons, kill hunters, etc. She rarely ever got out of the warthog and I would end up doing most of the work but she was always content and happy driving me around wherever I needed to go during the round.

    [–]anonswede 18 points19 points  (2 children)

    From my (way too extensive) experience of WoW I agree, most women played exclusively healers or a class that COULD heal (like Shadow Priests or Feral Druids).

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    My main was mage. 2200 3s boii

    [–]justcallmetarzan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Or hunters. So many female hunters, because you got pets. I was confused a bit midway thru by 'the warrior and the mage' because mages don't heal =P

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    It’s weird what you can actually learn from video games. Our psychology is mirrored very well in our entertainment

    [–]Pie_021 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    That same psychology is mirrored in career choices too. How women are nurses vs men?

    [–]Whitified 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    and they thought making half the characters strong 'modern women' would make more females play different roles. Hah

    [–]AceofRains 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Even in league of legends it’s like this- hell most role playing that you could get a girl to play she’ll likely pick a support. She wants to be useful to you while you play the game, so sometimes they are guided to that decision. Even lesbians I know prefer to play support or female champions. I notice men have no preference toward any champion. If they are powerful and strategize properly for a team composition than that’s what we tend to play. It could be the girliest champion and it would not matter if they carry the team well. When I was younger I would constantly look at the world through the lens of RPGs and analyzed the play styles of my friends, assigning them a job/class. League of Legends it what taught me that that though every one has a class, the best way to climb the ladder is to build efficiantly for your role type. If you’re a champ that’s designed to carry but you lock in as support (and try to play as a support), you hurt your self and your team. When I looked at my own life, I had always excelled and archers and mages- carry style jobs but back line jobs at that. I was very conflict avoidant unless I could complete destroy my world problems and if I couldn’t they’d destroy me. My brother was always my frontline. He’d be the one who would take the brunt of the problems and be my protector so it wasn’t until he moved away and I moved on my own that I had to learn to be a frontline combatant my self. The analogy he wrote above where women take care of household support so you the man has time to effeciantly run other things that matter is perfect. Being on my own (and being gay) I have no back up in that regard. I’m like a heavy DPS with minor support skills that’s trying not to die in a mine field of agressive enemies- my only chance its to one shot everything and move as fast as I can. I do well in that regard, but if I had back up I could move exponentially faster. I did move back in with my mom for a year and that allowed me the freedom to enroll in school and get into a real career among many of the other changes I need to make to solo my game at a better pace. Your parent is like a power lever, take advantage of it while you can and keep on good terms with them.

    [–]Luckylancer96 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I saw a girl on heroes of storm that only playes female chracters. Girls like to play female chracters in games.

    [–]megamanxtc 55 points56 points  (0 children)

    Women are born with high inherent value, which depreciates over time, men build theirs from nothing as they age.

    I will teach this to my kids - both sons / daughters - they can both learn the important lesson this simple line teaches.

    [–]JerkNClean 15 points16 points  (3 children)

    Remind me a foreigner interviewing a Japanese lady why Japanese women are content been housewife and lack of career ambition. "Work life's hard" so simply put.

    [–]ar4s 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    they are also seeking just as much sex on the side (80-90% if male Japanese colleagues are to be taken at face value. I for one see this as the only hole in this argument of life-long marriage/child rearing. The chemical bond that causes us to LTR and procreate, but then fades with the duress of time is as empirical/scientifically verifiable as it gets. It seems to me that while EVERYONE who executes this software when they get married strives for these ideals, there are bugs in the system because it doesn't match the hardware its fundamentally built on.

    There is also some logical fallacy going on here in TRP. 1. It's masculine and acceptable to arrange a FMF threesome while in a committed relationship or otherwise. It's heretic and you're a cuck if you let another man lay hands on your woman. 2. It's generally fine for a guy have multiple plates, and one shouldn't care if their plates are fucking other guys. Why does this change after marriage? (My guess is paternity responsibilities).

    Call me a cuck, but I plan on having an open-marriage because I myself know that I'm going to desire more pussy down the road. It would be ignorant for me to not believe that will not also be my partners desire. If/when this happens, it will be orchestrated as adults who are a team. I'm open to discussion on the topic so long as it isn't dogmatic rhetoric. I'd legitimately like to know why this is a bad idea, if it is.

    [–]ParadoxOfReplica 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Open marriage carries a higher risk of getting STDs. Plus, branch swings happen more likely/sooner. Do you really want to marry someone when you know for a fact that you will not stay together? That is the problem with marriage in the first place, opening it is just adding fuel to the fire.

    [–]ar4s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Open marriage carries a higher risk of getting STDs.

    Rationally, I would draw the same conclusion... however when it comes to psychology/sociology there tend to be a lot of outcomes that are not intuitive. Is that something you've read or can cite?

    Plus, branch swings happen more likely/sooner.>

    Probably true, but if someone wants to filter themselves out of my life ... I'll be fine. I'm probably way better situated if I've already got other people I'm seeing. But yeah, why get married or make the commitment then, this line of thinking is better suited to a LTR.

    Personally, I'm in Japan and divorce rape is not (yet) a thing here. If I decide to get married it would be more for the family because having kids outside of marriage would cause a huge rift with the family.

    cheers for your input.

    [–]Immune2DNP 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    Most men and women are brainwashed nowadays. Men are brainwashed into thinking it's sexist to not have women working at their level (merit, work ethic, past experience, education) DOES NOT MATTER. Men can be more qualified than girls for the job, but it would be sexist not to hire the girl. Women have been brainwashed into thinking that they need to be "strong, independent women", and make themselves miserable climbing the corporate ladder.

    Look at it from an evolutionary standpoint:

    • Men are fighters, warriors, builders, conquerers-they seek power, resources, glory, and a submissive, fertile, loving woman.

    • Women are the home makers, nurturers, provide comfort and love-they seek a strong, high SMV man who they can give themselves to completely and support his life.

    This post made sense from an evolutionary, primal perspective. Thanks for phrasing it so articulately.

    [–]TryhardPantiesON 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    A++ post right here.

    It's sad that some women in this day think being a man is better than being a woman, and for that reason, they become masculine in their effort to "become a man", and it is this masculine woman which is repulsive to masculine alpha men.

    There is nothing better for a masculine man than a woman who embraces femininity.

    [–]justtenofusinhere 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    The best option for a women is to go for the best man she can exert the most control over.

    [–]Ezaar 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Thanks for the RPG analogies and different perspective.

    [–]ChadTheWaiter100 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Heath cliff bar your posts are always good; that’s something I’ve quickly realized. I wish we could widely spread this message somehow.

    Do you believe that there are women who can realize this on a subconscious level? Everything you’ve mentioned makes perfect sense. My wife always says things like “I feel safe around you”.

    When I was younger, I was handsome but really had little going for me. As a kid I used to have to almost beg for a bj. As I got older women began to treat it more as a privilege and my wife progressed to literally asking me if she can suck my dick; sometimes even trying to pull it out and suck it on the spot (in the house or while we’re in the car)

    In short, I’m teally grateful for all I’ve learned in trp. I don’t abuse these powers; I don’t use it for evil. It’s transformed me from a handsome half beta to a valuable male. I’ve graduated college and got a nice starting career, I’m in decent shape and I got good dick to throw.

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    [–]BeholdTheHair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Heath apparently likes to scrub his stuff from the web after it's been up for a little while and I missed this over the weekend. Thanks for the backup, was indeed good shit.

    [–]V1SoR 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    As a software engineer employed in the field of game development, this resonates with me on a deeper level than other posts. Great analogy, completely agreed.

    Oh, and... Overwatch's matchmaking is piss poor. This is a professional opinion, not a consumer one.

    [–]Nocryingok 10 points11 points  (7 children)

    Isn't mythocondrial DNA passed just from the mother?

    [–]Chaddeus_Rex 11 points12 points  (4 children)

    Yes. But by comparing genetic variance of men between mitochondrial DNA and that of the 'Y' chromosome, it is possible to determine the amount of ancestors that the genes 'passed' through. What such a comparison shows is that there is a far larger variance in genes (more changes) in mitochondrial DNA than in Y Chromosomes.

    [–]daffy_duck233 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    What such a comparison shows is that there is a far larger >variance in genes (more changes) in mitochondrial DNA than in Y >Chromosomes.

    Under the Results section of that particular paper, if you look at Table 1, the less-than-zero ratio of pairwise difference in genetic diversity between Y chromosome and mtDNA is only significant for Africa, Central Asia, and America.

    But if you look at Figure 6 they ran simulations to estimate the number of effective females and effective males (the ones who reproduced) and nominally these numbers are larger for female. I'm confused as to how they arrive at this conclusion given the genetic diversity in mtDNA is only larger for the 3 above mentioned regions.

    [–]Chaddeus_Rex -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

    Thats because cucked fucks like yourself need to "sources" for anything but can't interpret them themselves.

    The mtDNA is larger for ALL regions its just that its more pronounced in those regions as there has been a greater amount of sex biased migrations.

    [–]daffy_duck233 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    The mtDNA is larger for ALL regions its just that its more pronounced in those regions as there has been a greater amount of sex biased migrations.

    Did you read the paper? They found that

    We identified 2,228 SNPs in the NRY sequences and 2,163 SNPs in the mtDNA sequences. Our results confirm the controversial assertion that genetic differences between human populations on a global scale are bigger for the NRY than for mtDNA, although the differences are not as large as previously suggested.

    I just need to clarify my understanding that's all.

    [–]dgillz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Mythocondrial

    Mitochondrial is the word LOL - don't know if that was a typo or on purpose.

    [–]Nocryingok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    it wasn't on purpose on my part hehe sry

    [–]RisingTogether 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    To me, this is definitely true. Good post

    [–]Half-biT 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Well another heathcliff post anddddd I’ve lost 30 minutes of studying. Great work as always.

    [–]ReformSociety 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    You spent 30 minutes studying more important shit that will impact every aspect of your life tf you talking about "losing 30 minutes of studying"

    [–]Half-biT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I’m near finals in college man. Priorities are different when my tuition is near $70,000 and my future depends on a certain letters that I get in certain classes. Never said it was a poor choice of my time, I love reading this shit.

    [–]ar4s 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    /u/Heathcliff-- The Onset and eventual "entropy" of male/female relationships seems to be one that is chemical. You point out a wonderfully idealized version a LTR/Marriage here. While it may be attained with the vigilance and integrity of both parties, I'm of the opinion that there is a lifetime for sexual attraction. I say there is a vector that allows for all of this, with sexual freedom once a relationship hits a point, and this integrity is openly and honestly maintained. What say you to that?

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Great post, 100% true but the fact that we have to use video game metaphors to get these points across to people disturbs me. Not your fault however

    [–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Side-bar-able. Hear, hear.

    [–]ReformSociety 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    http://archive.is/VhsW6

    Here is OP's original post, "The Healer and the Tank"

    [–]RedGunnera 7 points8 points  (7 children)

    Interesting to see a post on TRP from a female perspective - it makes me wonder what % of the sub is female.

    I liked the idea of how the womb is the females most important asset, if she is clever in her life goals she will find the best way to maximise this asset and satisfy her biological imperative - thereby gaining the satisfaction and fulfilment of a successful family.

    For myself personally I can see how this would be very lucrative as a ‘re-roll’ on the sex lottery to come back as a female... that is of course unless you end up an ugly duckling, then you’re really fucked (what is the highest SMV an ugly female can achieve? HB 6 at best?)

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      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      The ugly woman would be wise to play in the men's arena. Try to earn a living and work 9-5, basically be an "independent woman".

      [–]1empatheticapathetic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      To the ugly girl, most guys above a low threshold are Chad. And she easily hooks one for life with feminine behaviour. I don't agree at all.

      There's a lot more ugly girl hot guy couples out there than the opposite. That's because the ugly girl has low standards and has essentially already hit the wall. I can see this all over my family and friends tbh.

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        [–]colzod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        This post is awesome. My favourite from the RP so far. The nudes bit was the perfect closer - just what was needed after a long serious article. Excellent writing.

        [–]Layback 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        One of the better posts I've seen here in a long time

        [–]miomayorga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Wow so true! Amazing post! I wish more people had the traditional mindset that RP has.

        [–]mytrillosophy 3 points4 points  (9 children)

        I agree with your post, but I’d never wanna be a woman. Maybe I’m a masochist, but I’ve always enjoyed the grind/struggle of manhood

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          [–]YoGabbaTheGreat 3 points4 points  (5 children)

          Have you ever had a real job?

          [–]SpaderAce 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          I'd like to know what your point is, but I think you're maybe saying that because he says "risky work life." What he means is, in history it was a risk to your life, but in today's world the risk is failing at your career and getting laid off or not progressing, and being a failure and ultimately ending up alone or homeless. Those are some real risks in the real career world.

          [–]mytrillosophy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          This is why it’s better to wait til your 30s to have children. If youre on your own and your life gets fucked up either by yourself or whatever extenuating circumstances, you can make ends meet with a minimum wage job or odd jobs, but if you’ve got two kids and a wife to be responsible for, you’re gonna get hit with a divorce and be homeless for who knows how long

          [–]SpaderAce 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yeah I agree with you there

          [–]llmercll 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          You believe men have control over their destiny?

          I'd argue the mans mind is a close equivalent to the females body, but not that we choose either.

          [–]Ripred019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Eh, people tend to underestimate how much control they have.

          A mind can be sharpened. You can figure out what your strengths are, find a role that let's you use them, and hone them to the point of mastery.

          At the same time, most women can look good if they watch their physique, do their hair, can and put on some makeup.

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          I have a neighbor whose 44F married and 2 kids with 28M. She pays the bills and she’s a total milf.

          [–]Eclectiqque 6 points7 points  (3 children)

          so how do you let your girl know this? I suppose it wouldn't be a wise idea linking her to this post, would it?

          [–]SpaderAce 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Depends. Many girls would get offended, but if it didn't talk about fucking so much my Christian sisters would be all over this article and they'd be telling all of their friends and guys about it.

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            [–]chddaniel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            i also wrote you a PM. hope you'll find time to answer

            [–]berryfarmer 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Working a 9 to 5 is a waste of male time as well. Most simply haven't figured it out yet. Working a job you hate to buy home decorations your wife doesn't need to impress people you don't like with money that isn't real is not a valuable use of time. The widgets being manufactured at the factory are not only playing a role in the destruction of our planet (no I'm not a Liberal), but they are inherently wasteful. Manufacturing Toyotas will be profitable. Sure. But it is neither sustainable or worthwhile.

            We talk about women being of lesser intelligence yet you also plainly admit they run the world. Violent men make them wet. Powerful rich men make them wet. So as you've plainly shown, men will make money at any cost as long as they get the pussy. Destroying the planet in the process while leading wholly unfulfilling lives at the orders of their slave owners. Why do we men allow women to rule the world when it is obvious they are impulsive and short sighted?

            You use the expression "thousands of years" in the same post as you paint a description of a modern life. As with many posts in this subreddit there are..inconsistencies.. It is not possible to live as though we are 1000 years in the past. The female brain cannot cope in the same way. She does not need us for survival anymore.

            The Red Pill subreddit is correct in its portrayal of female behavior, in many case with near 100% accuracy. The Red Pill subreddit is incorrect in its methods of living life with this newfound knowledge because "this" particular redpill is based on that of materialism.

            This sub is based on the premise that the purpose of life is to propagate genetic material in Darwinian fashion because the materialistic world is all that exists. This shortsightedness outlines the ultimate failings of this community, a myopia that must be overturned if true progress is to be made.

            Yes you understand women. But you have put women on a pedestal all in the same comment. There is more to life than reproduction. This sub, while correct in many ways, gives the term "Red Pill" an almost comedic silhouette. As you eat your poison food and drink poison water while reducing your overall lifespan due to excessive protein intake, understand there is more to life than women. You all put them on a pedestal by believing female understanding is The Red Pill.

            Far from it.

            https://archive.is/zp31a

            http://archive.is/Vc7oA

            [–]VickVaseline 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Heathcliff, I have been reading your posts voraciously.

            This one is really refreshing and different. One would think that a post geared toward girls would be too off-topic for this sub, but you managed to do it in such a RP way that it fits right in! Damn, it should be on the sidebar.

            Oh, but asking for nudes is just plain thirsty in my opinion lol

            [–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 point2 points  (8 children)

            /u/Heathcliff--

            Two questions if you will:

            1. In order to get your attention as a man, do I send you nudes too? I can do that you know.

            2. I am confused between the assertion that TRP makes that making alot of money/being overly successful will make you viewed as a BB by a woman. So why has there been a recent trend in men saying to 'get your shit together' and become a BB rather than an AF?

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              [–]Iwannachokekatie 1 point2 points  (2 children)

              Define hung. I'd send pics just to show an appreciation of your posts.

              [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              Dude, go for it, it's not like you're going to show your face or something.

              [–]Iwannachokekatie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Will send signed dickpics for gym programming advice

              [–]Emmenthalreddit 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Never let a woman use you as a mealticket? Wasn't the entire point of your post saying she should?

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Meal tickets here means being a slave husband with a dry dick at best and an orbiter at worst.

              [–]Ledoborec 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              If you shut up about your income or car you drive then you r AF. If you make money you should be enjoying it first, bitches second.

              [–]Chaddeus_Rex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              So then why worry about getting money and why not instead focus on being AF?

              [–]kitty_the_hare 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              As a female. Reading stuff like this really brings me back down to earth and enables me to focus again Thanks for the great post !

              [–]blkpnther 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              thanks for taking the time to write all this out. It's not a novel idea in TRP but its well articulated and has connected "some of the dots" for me as I read it.

              [–]snapreader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              OP, where's the marriage 1.0 vs marriage 2.0 write-up??

              [–]Whitified 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              you need to read Esther Vilar bro

              [–]1Zanford 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              The chick's second PM to the guy "...we both want the same things, so how can we possibly be different?" is itself an extremely female point of view: notice how she talks about the ends, and not the means. A (hot) female has the luxury of deciding what she wants, and sitting pretty in public until the right man comes and offers it. Once she's learned about makeup and push up bras, she doesn't have to think about 'the mean' too much. A man knows the men and women will go about achieving the same vague goals like 'to be fit and happy' in very different ways.

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Your marriage CV is great except for the joint bank account. My bank account is mine. Yes im jewish. And no im not changing my mind. Everything else in your perfect marriage scenario works for me

              [–]1Ill_Will7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              /u/Heathcliff-- has been killin it with the posts lately. Enlightening and entertaining reads. Thanks man

              [–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              thanks for this post man... I really understand the dynamic now of how the man to women relationship really works.

              [–]Chaos_pancake 0 points1 point  (3 children)

              Woah what happened?? Why did the post get deleted???

              [–]berryfarmer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

              Did someone archive? Please PM

              [–]throwaway-aa2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              fuck. can anyone PM me the post? There was some good content in it.

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                [–]grewapair 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                For every minute a man spends doing his laundry, or cooking his own meals or cleaning his house.

                Note, if you do this right, and buy all the proper time-saving tools, you'll spend under an hour per day on it.

                Now compare the amount of time you have to devote to keeping the wife/gf happy. Taking her to girly movies, listening to her complain, visiting her relatives, taking her on vacations, etc. Then she'll demand a larger home that has to be maintained. You'll spend more time working to support her.

                You'll find you spend about the same amount of time keeping her around, maybe more.

                So no, this part is completely false. The trick is to develop your own system to minimize the amount of time spent on these activities and then you have as much time as any traditionally married man. And as for current relationships where the man literally gets no benefit at all and has to do most of this stuff anyway? Total waste of your life.

                [–]trees_away 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Or just use your money to pay for people to do these things. I spend much less per month having a personal assistant, personal chef, and housekeeper than I did on having a wife.

                $175/wk for personal chef to meal prep (includes cost of groceries) $10/hr for my personal assistant to do all the things that are a waste of my time $120/mo for my housekeeper to come do a deep cleaning

                [–]flatpapers 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                So u expect men to be the sole income earner in this day??

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                [–]placental 14 points15 points  (7 children)

                Yeah, temporarily unblock imgur.

                Go to the public library.

                Borrow someone else’s laptop for 20 seconds.

                Wipe your OS and buy new Windows key full MSRP and reinstall browser, check this before you reinstall social media blocker.

                Pay me 100 schmeckles to upload them into a YouTube video.

                [–]Odins-left-eye 7 points8 points  (4 children)

                Pay me 100 schmeckles

                I don't know how much that is. Is that a lot? Is it a little?

                [–]RedwallAllratuRatbar -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

                Just a friendly advice, not that I'm saint, but engaging in reddit comment "jokes" is one of the most pathetic things I've seen. We are not wome nto get likes, we give information or ask questions

                [–]forgetful_storytellr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Humor demonstrates social competence.

                [–]sharp7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Buy a windows key at full msrp price hahahah

                [–]TheRealJesusChristus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Use another browser that doesnt controll this kind of stuff. I am not sure which would do such a thing, but there are plenty of browsers out there.

                [–]CptainJellyfish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Her questions in the screenshot are in the post.

                [–]Snowiceolated -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                Good post, sounds really nice. I think deep down we all still wish this sort of relationship was possible. That one sexy and caring woman willing to support you through thick and thin and stay loyal no matter what? I wish man...I wish.

                There was this one guy I'm familiar with who let and wanted his girlfriend to stay home. He has a good job and bought a house for the two of them, and was preparing to propose. She would make dinner for him everyday, do all the laundry, clean, etc. How do I know all this? Why I would go over and fuck her before he came home. I got to taste test the food she was making him too.

                But it sounds nice. Maybe on my journey I'll run into one of these unicorns. But we'll see how long the illusion lasts, and I realize she's a horse with a party hat on.

                [–]revaforce -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                This has to be the best post I’ve read on TRP, although this is another one of those posts that sort of contradicts the values and teachings of the Red Pill. Compiled from the sidebar and other posts, men are better than women and men have all the power; although through this post it is admired that women are a lot higher value and our lives as men are almost meaningless compared to them . Elaborate someone?

                [–]SpaderAce 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Basically, women ARE valued higher in a societal standpoint, and have been since the dawn of time. Men go to war, men hunt big game, and men sail and explore the world. They are more disposable, but they accomplish more in their lives. Red Pill doesn't say "men are inherently better than women", it says, "to be successful as a man, you must make yourself a better man so that you become better than women so they will look up to you." Women are born, men are made, that sort of thing. Women have higher inherent value since they bear children, but they want a man that has built himself up to be the highest value around so as to better protect her and her children.

                Women have more sexual power, but to be successful as a man, you must learn to ignore that power, thereby portraying higher value and increasing your power. Men have more power in the other realms of life, but today's beta man is a loser who believes he has no power whatsoever, and therefore grovels at the feet of women for their pussy since it's the only way he knows how to achieve any sort of success.

                Our lives are not meaningless comparatively. They're meaningless if we accomplish nothing as a beta, since we can't AT THE VERY LEAST have children. We can achieve higher meaning through work and effort. Women can achieve higher meaning just by being women with a womb.

                That's how this article is redpill.

                [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                This model does work, but it will never be fully realized. Why? Because humans are not naturally monogamous. We are one of the most promiscuous species around, in fact. Our closest ancestors, chimps and bonobos, are extremely promiscuous. Sex is not just a reproductive function for our species, it is also a social bonding mechanism. The rate of ejaculations per conception is extremely high. Our modern society has now invented birth control as well as paternity tests. With these tools, we can liberate ourselves sexually, while maintaining our civilization building, unnatural way of pairing. At some point, genetic engineering will likely become the future. I'm not afraid to offend all you redpillers' ideas of returning to the old. We are never going back. Sorry. Evolutionary fitness is the ability to adapt to change. Change or die. Open marriage, genetic engineering, test tube babies - like it or not, that is a very possible future. Another very possible future is the total destruction of our civilization. The problem is that everyone, red and blue, black and yellow, gay and straight, etc., is so focused on their own interests, while neglecting to think long term about the future of the human race, the planet earth, and our universe. Open mindedness is extremely important. Don't get stuck in the past. Learn from it, study it, but DO NOT GO BACK. IMPROVE, MOVE FORWARD.

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                      [–]yomo86 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

                      [marriage 1.0] We don't really have it anymore, and it's hard to find a woman to achieve it with, but it is still, definitely possible.

                      No. This is wrong per se. Some people will say, marriage was not so bad. Yup, that's right. But the main caveat is, marriage as a deal, a bi-party trade-off is gone. Legally, morally and least we forget financially. We can academically discuss whether or not marriage makes sense but as it is right now, it doesn't come close being a viable option for a man even with the best woman.

                      Second

                      As a woman, you have been born with the most important piece of human machinery in existence: the womb. As such, you have a huge responsibility to further the existence of humanity/your race by producing the next generation. You are the only ones that are able to do this, so your life and purpose are already defined for you from birth.

                      I dissent that the prime programming of a man is to have offspring. To have sex is a prime directive, how it is achieved is irrelevant. It does not even have to serve the female imperative AF/BB is a testimony to this. Easy girls, sluts, hookers, escorts, basically the womb as you describe it is up for the highest bidder or we should say leasee, may your currency be either alphaness or provisioning. This does not change the fact, that men feel attached to their spawn, or that they might like raising the children but mingling biological necessities (sex, provisioning) with personal feelings (child raising, family union) is, in my opinion, not very wise as it is close to the hamster's wheel.