To everyone here, sex is great, but PLEASE have standards. I hope none of these men were you. (self.)

submitted by bostonburrito

TLDR: I stared into the abyss last Saturday night and it's been on my mind ever since. I'm not sure whether I'm disgusted, saddened, or horrified, or a combination of all three. One things for sure, AWALT; and women get dick at the click of a finger. Even the lower class.

I'd just finished a date with a typical guaranteed n-close tinder girl. HB7, cute face, decent body, but from the info I'd gathered on the date this would be a simple ONS, maybe becoming a plate if she's lucky.

This story isn't about her though. It's about her roommate.

I knew this roommate existed, and on the way to HB7's house the idea of a three-way had been floated multiple times in my head. Of course this changed when she answered the door once we arrived home. Her roommate was a 3. Fat, caked face & pimples looking like a Streets Magnum. Would've been a 2 if it weren't for an okay rack. My hopes for a threesome sank like the titanic. Oh well, time to focus on the 7.

As we enter I discover another surprise. HB3 had already been laid that night anyway, and the dude was in the bathroom about to leave. I was intrigued to meet what kind of bluepill boy would tap that.

The door opens, out he walks....

He's an 8. Chiseled face, good fashion, pretty built. Way more attractive than myself. Internally my jaw drops.

We say hey, exchange that "ay we both scored tonight" look guys do, and he leaves. HB3 laughs about how he was only here for 30 mins and didn't even last that long. No shit, I think to myself.

HB7 offers a drink, I sit down, the 3 of us drink and chat for a bit. The bloke from before slips my mind; I dismiss the encounter as him getting catfished. Poor guy, happens to the best of us. HB3 leaves to her room shortly after for whatever reason, maybe she at least knew not to cockblock. I make my move, take HB7 to her room and things that needed to be done are done.

Lying in bed afterwards, I hear the front door shut again. HB3 comes bouncing into the room and smugly plants herself on the end of the bed. "That dick was much better haha."

What the fuck? While myself and HB7 were fucking, she'd messaged another guy, he'd arrived, fucked her, and left. All in the span of another hour. Even more gobsmacking, she flicks through his tinder photos to show HB7 what he looked like. He was another fucking attractive man. A 7, bit less than the first, but presumably out of her league. Apparently not. Jesus.

It's quite stuffy from all the exercise, so I invite HB7 to go for a shower (an excuse for some shower head tbh, and to get away from HB3's existance for a bit longer.)

We finish, and It's time for me to scoot. As I'm heading out HB3 says I should stay longer, "so 7 isn't lonely while shes busy again." You must be joking. I insist I have to go.

On the elevator down I'm wtfing hard. The door opens at ground level and I'm greeted by... another fucking attractive man. Another fucking 8. We exchange nods and he enters the lift. I watch as it goes up to the same floor the girls live on.

In the time I fucked one HB7, a HB3 got dicked by 3 other GOOD LOOKING men.

A few things came out of this. I now truly believe AWALT. Fully. I didn't before, not sure why. I guess I needed a proper example to be handed to me to experience its full extent. Somehow, in this day and age, any women, whether it be a 9 or a fucking 3, can be railed by multiple attractive men.

Now guys, sex is fun as fuck, but PLEASE. You do not want to be these boys. It's completely fine to have standards. Don't go fucking every blob that moves just because they're all giving you consent to.

One last thing that came out of this. Now for a brief moment, I felt a sense of pride. I hadn't stooped as low as these men tonight. Even though some were more attractive, you still got the hotter woman, that has to say something about your SMV, right? Nevertheless, on the uber ride home, My brain did a horrible thing..

"She's her roommate. They're good friends. She's bound to have done the exact same thing as HB3 in the past."

Her number was out of my phone and tinder blocked moments after. AWALT.

[–]GodOfDinosaurs 328 points329 points  (17 children)

They might have been catfished and then just said fuck it. Admittedly this has happened to me before

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 155 points156 points  (5 children)

That 3 has gotta be a goddamn catfishing professional

[–]NapalmSunshine 45 points46 points  (2 children)

Right?!! I wanna see a pic of her vs. her tinder pics.

[–]James_Rustler_ 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Tinder pics are probably all close ups that focus on the tits.

[–]NapalmSunshine 17 points18 points  (0 children)

With filters. Tons of filters.

[–]Bing_Bang_Bam 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Realustically she should be charging 150$ a head. She needs a pimp instead of giving it out for free.

[–]Ludus9 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Happened to my brother before, he went out the bathroom window. Piss my self laughing at the story everything.

[–]not_usually_serious 18 points19 points  (0 children)

thats why you dont trust profile pictures with filters and the top down angle that hides 200 lbs

[–]GanksGriefersForFun 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Are you for real? There's a lot I don't know still.

[–]--legendary 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Sadly, catfishing is common.

[–]greenlittleman 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I really don't understand how you could have a boner on ugly fat girl without pills or crazy dose of alcohol. But I have seen fat-lover guys online - they prefer fat girls and slim ones don't exist for them, lol.

[–]mcr00sterdota 3 points4 points  (0 children)

First time I got Tinder catfished I ran.

[–]jackandjill22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, girl just offered herself as bait to cope with her crushingly low self-esteem. She thinks she's a catch because she's in the sack with these guys but if she met them in broad daylight they wouldn't give her the time of day. & she would break down crying.

[–]TheBasedLibertarian 271 points272 points  (1 child)

This is like a comedy skit

[–]apsnoasiknvaoiskndoa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, starring Luke Wilson

[–]Brodka17 263 points264 points  (103 children)

I don't think they got catfished as others are saying. There are a LOT of bros that seriously don't realize their SMV or just DGAF about smashing blobs, hence why bathroom bro gave you an "ayyyyy we scored"... ugh...

Also smashing 3s/4s is not practice, cause I guarantee they don't put any resistance or test you at all.

[–]Viramont 39 points40 points  (1 child)

My cousin will fuck anything that walks and he has game. Lmao some dudes just don’t care

[–]Sparky159 73 points74 points  (96 children)

They may not be good for game practice, but they're definitely useful for sex practice

I banged fatties between 16-19, and now I've got an HB8 LTR and she's asleep, happy and content, because the dick game is too good

[–]upyoars 49 points50 points  (92 children)

Fuck dude. My dick game is trash. Im 25 and I cum in 10-40 seconds of entering cuz i used to be hardcore beta porn addict. New to game and only been with like 3 girls in my life. How to fix?

[–]TRPTosser 117 points118 points  (3 children)

Stop jerking and start reading the sidebar.

[–]Nonstopas 50 points51 points  (2 children)

basically when youre fucking the girl just read the sidebar, that will help

[–]TRPTosser 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I read it as foreplay. For myself - not for the girl.

[–]Sparky159 83 points84 points  (11 children)

Get a Tinder, and set the "Age" scroller all the way to both sides, 18-45+. Swipe right on anything that doesn't sound absolutely crazy/STD-infested/Bot. Get with a 4-5, learn female anatomy, and figure out what gets their engines purring

AWALT doesn't just apply to their hamster, most women fall into 1 of 4 sexual categories:

  1. Vanilla

  2. BDSM

  3. Experimentation

  4. Total Degenerate

Also, this may sound a bit counter to the "Lifting" hive mind, but do some fucking cardio. That helps with your legs, hips, and breathing, all of which will make you more powerful and longer lasting in bed.

And If you can get a 35-something woman that is willing to put up with your ineptitude, take it. Older women can show you so much in bed it's absurd. If you can get over the fact that you're bedding a roastie, it's well worth the experience

[–]Proto_Sigma 27 points28 points  (9 children)

You can lift and do cardio. Both are really good for you and if done properly it’s excellent cross training. HIIT helps with makings gains since it boosts HGH and Testosterone, and distance helps with endurance. YMMV (literally).

[–]Sparky159 14 points15 points  (8 children)

I know, but I also know a lot of lifters who are always “but cardio killz muh GAINZ”, so I felt the need to bring that up

[–]thetotalpackage7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

if you do three 20 min cardio sessions a week it ain't gonna kill yo gainz. the gainz goblin shows up at four seshunz.

[–]MayanEnt 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Tbh my yoga practice improved my dick game

[–]roy28282 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Can you explain what in yoga did that?

[–]Sparky159 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It was more than likely a combination of the breathing techniques and the development of the core muscles that did it

[–]Trumpets22 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Here’s how ya do it boi. Most guys don’t think they can go twice, you can. After your first spit just keep going, she will be impressed. Take a step back and go back to foreplay and once your dick softens a bit and then gets harder again in 5-10 minuets your ready for round 2. It’s perfect because guys take like 3 minuets to get off while women can take a good 15. So it’s a great way to satisfy both of you so she keeps coming back for that dickie. And maybe explode once or twice before having sex.

[–]1TheProphetPhysiquiel 64 points65 points  (10 children)

This is gonna sound like strange advice, but I heard it from someone in the media and tried it and holy shit does it work. When you think you're going to cum, picture the giant, floating head of Kevin Spacey at the edge of the bed. Buys you at least two more minutes.

[–]Chrisl19 66 points67 points  (2 children)

I hate advice like this. I don’t want to be thinking about kevin spaceys fucking head while I’m having sex, I want my mind on that sweet pussy.

[–]JDawgerson 52 points53 points  (1 child)

The problem with that is that eventually you end up having an association between that image and sex and Kevin spacey's head turns you on.

[–]Bisuboy 20 points21 points  (0 children)

If you're an actor, that will probably good for your career

[–]Skrittext 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Bad advice. Instant flaccid, no one wants to be rammed with a soft dick for 2 minutes

[–]qwertyuiop111222 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Will Nicholas Cage work?

[–]untonyto 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Exactly how many times per lay do you think of Kevin Spacey?

[–]1TheProphetPhysiquiel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Chances are, I was already thinking about SpaceFace

[–]DarkTriadDetector 5 points6 points  (5 children)

I'm fucking envious man. I have the completely opposite problem from the same source. Normal sex is just so boring to me. I have had sex with only three women...but I've never once orgasmed. I get hard and all that, but I just don't get any release. I had one short term relationship basically end because of that. I could only fake orgasming for so long before she caught on.

It saved me some trouble when a girl tried to stealth me, to this day don't know why she literally tried to pull the condom off. I was tested for STIs, came back negative.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

stop being a loser and faking your orgasm, that's pathetic

[–]Nocryingok 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Let them know that you aren't satisfied. (subtly)Pretend that you've had much crazier, better pussy (that's what happens to me when I fuck a fatty, and every girl is someone's fatty). They will go crazy trying to please you, and then you can request your biggest turnons, which if attended, might make you be able to finish. (only if you DON'T apologize or look ashamed for not being aroused to the point of orgasm).

Remember: you are hard to please, and that's a good thing in a man

[–]GoldCabinetGuava 11 points12 points  (15 children)

stop watching porn, stop jerking it, meditate, do dick kegels

[–]Itshighnoon777 2 points3 points  (12 children)

Yours is the best advice right here. I didn’t quit jerking but I didn’t do as much either. And when I did masturbate I practiced edging. And that helped ALOT. Edging and dick kegals are the way to go

[–]GoldCabinetGuava 2 points3 points  (10 children)

I know there are a lot of edgy internet athiests on here who think "religion is the opiate of the masses" and have zero understanding of spirituality, but meditating is the best thing I ever did for dick control. I recommend yoga and learning how do do yoga breathing. Combine that with kegels and you have potential to become a sex god.

[–]__ROOSTER__ 8 points9 points  (2 children)

for a while NOFAP, no porn, and fuck throw away girls until you figure it all out.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's funny how this post goes against what the post is about lol!

[–]MayanEnt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Watch “how to eat pussy like a champ” and thank me later

[–]vicious_armbar 12 points13 points  (6 children)

Wear thick condoms. Trying to cum will be a challenge.

[–]LibertyIsNotFree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nonoxynol-9 spermacide would make much more of a difference.

It's why I hate condoms. They don't make magnums without Nonoxynol-9. And it's numb as fuck.

[–]Buchloe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Supplement with expert fingering

[–]muscletrain 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Damn 10-40 seconds is bad, I'd probably get some of that desensitizing spray until I got my mind right/used to it if I was 10 seconds bad.

Desensitizes your junk and works really well if you need it. If you don't need it or spray too much it's like your dick went to the dentist.

[–]wadsworthsucks 14 points15 points  (4 children)

See, I'm at the opposite side of the spectrum. I last pretty much indefinitely almost every single time. The women love it, but it's aggravating as fuck for me.

[–]muscletrain 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Yeah in a discussion with girls in our group of friends they were actually more offended if the guy couldn't cum rather than cumming too fast. They seemed to take it personally like they weren't hot enough or something.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mate, you cum fast the first time you fuck a girl.

overtime after that it's desentizied

[–]Da_RectumWrecker 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Ew. You can practice on hot girls too you know. It isn't hard to lay down good dick. It's what you're supposed to do. Being proud of laying decent pipe is like bragging about paying your bills on time.

[–]Sparky159 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I'm not saying that it's impossible to practice on hot girls, but it's easier to practice on an ugly chick than a hot one

Also, it helps to practice on an ugly chick because you don't have much to lose in the event of a catastrophic failure

[–]Nocryingok 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You don't have much to lose with a hot girl either, there are thousands of them around you

There is no luck in dating, just skill


[–]mrmaldoror 1 points1 points [recovered]

Is that bitch selling cum or something

what the fuck ahaha

I've seen plenty of similar shit, but never seen or heard of a trifecta.

I've seen this -HB10 pull two dudes over one night, was sitting in my girls bed thinking that those guys need to subscribe to the opposite of NoFap

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I’ve done a trifecta. There’s a bit of luck involved for a guy compared to a woman, but stacking up two tinder dates one after another isn’t too hard with an abundance mentality, and three not much harder than two. The luck comes in with finding matches actually down to show up versus trolling for an ego boost. Also parties sure make it easy to take a girl to your room, go back to the party when you finish, and repeat.

The trick (besides frame, game, and appearance) is to know when you’re wasting your time and move on. It’s almost a subset of frame, but some women simply don’t want to fuck you, and you have to notice that and move to the next one

[–]LibertyIsNotFree 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I think 3 girls was the most ever in one day for me. I'm absolutely sure about two in a day multiple occurrences, but if there was 3 ever. It was literally like once.

Back in college I amused myself by the number of girls I could get to cum all over my sheets before washing them. Never once was I questioned about it.

[–]sentientVibrator 77 points78 points  (2 children)

This reminds me of a military base situation... are you active duty or something?

[–]Sparky159 91 points92 points  (0 children)

Shhh.....We don't talk about the barracks

[–]uebermacht 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A couple of months ago, there has been a post here about an arab woman who used to hang out in a military base and literally go from barrack to barrack to fuck and suck the cum out of the soldiers. It has such an impact that the base commander suspended her from the base.

[–]NapalmSunshine 68 points69 points  (4 children)

HB7 went on a date. She had fun. You probably treated her like a human being. You were probably somewhat attentive to her needs during sex. You even sat and chatted with her roommate a little. You and HB7 both seem to have standards.

FB3 was dicked down by three dudes and probably didn’t even cum. She probably didn’t even enjoy it and thinks because these men fucked her that they were somewhat attracted to her. They weren’t. They got in, got what they came for, and left without a cuddle sesh. They didn’t buy her drinks, or ask her about her day. She was an animated sexy toy to them.

The fucked up thing about this is HB7 is probably wondering why you blocked and unmatched her. But FB3 feels fucking. Good about herself for being used and discarded three times in the same night.


[–]Merwebb 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Exactly. 3 was presumably a wet hole and no more.

[–]Snazzy_Serval 138 points139 points  (18 children)

That is seriously screwed up.

Men having no standards makes it harder for all of us. It's causing women to think they have more value than they actually do.

I'm slightly amazed how easy it is for all women to get laid. People who say that "ugly" women have it as hard as men don't have a clue.

Also the ever existence of Tinder and apps like it is really harmful to men. It gives women far too many options and then shit like this story happens.

[–]BewareTheOldMan 81 points82 points  (1 child)

It's ridiculously easy for virtually any woman to have sex - including fat, sloppy, ugly, and disgusting women...so imagining a reasonably attractive woman behaving in a promiscuous manner is too easy.

I suspect these attractive men had an "I don't care" attitude and went through with the sex act because there were no witnesses.

However, the wakeup call and reality for these women is that not ONE of these men will be seen in daylight hours, take these women on a date, initiate introduction to family or friends, but most important she will NEVER get the title or position of girlfriend or wife - the position that many of them truly desire at the end of all their promiscuity and declaration that it's "time to settle down" and find a husband.

Women behave this way because provisioning, protection, and male concern is not a necessity during their Whoring Phase. A prime example is late teenage years while under their parent's care or while in college - even student loans are covered at government/taxpayer expense.

Once a woman is out on her own, it becomes more important as reality and expenses of life sets in and reaction to receiving less and less male attention - even the fat, sloppy women and ESPECIALLY the fat, sloppy, and disgusting women. The men who offered sex in the dark wouldn't DARE be seen in their presence.

That's GOT to hurt knowing that although you had a brief moment with a stud-boy, it will never, ever, happen again along with ZERO chance of locking in a Beta Provider Chump - even a Beta on her level as they too say "No Thanks."

It's at this point the lowly Beta Male on her level is in a better financial position and even he has a chance with the used up/passed around HB6/HB7 "reformed slut" who wouldn't look in his direction in the first place.

He will likely marry, divorce, and then say "No Thanks" to offers from ANY woman after getting burned by divorce at least once. Some Betas may be desperate and inexperienced with women, but they're NOT stupid.

Stop this madness - it's time to get off the merry-go round.

It's no wonder some guys simply parrot "Enjoy the Decline."

[–]Greek-God-Brody 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This. 10 times this.

Guys like this fuck up the dating market. And the whole Social Media / dating phenomenon. It makes not-so-hot women's entitlement to grow artificially.

HB's [3-6] think they're entitled to a guy who's a 7.

HB's [7-8] won't look below guys that are at least a 9

And the HB 8+, you already know.

In this age, being an average guy is the worse you can do.

[–]magx01 6 points7 points  (1 child)

It's causing women to think they have more value than they actually do.

But if the guys are banging them doesn't that mean they do have that value?

[–]Torabor64 20 points21 points  (12 children)

Men not pursuing the most attractive girls makes it more difficult for you to get laid? You need to come up with better excuses man, if anything they are helping you.

[–]Snazzy_Serval 48 points49 points  (10 children)

If an 8 guy goes after a 4 girl, it makes the 4 girl think she's an 8 when she really isn't.

The 5 guy (me) tries to go for a 4 girl but she thinks she's an 8 (she's not) and more likely to turn me down.

[–]MAWL_SC 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe this is just nuance; but they don't think they are HB8s, they know they are fugly. I imagine in some way they are simultaneously disgusted by the man they are bedding while silently hamstering that they deserve a someone hot. AWALT

[–]Torabor64 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Sure, the reason you get rejected is because of every other man.

If a girl thought she was an 8, she wouldn't have dated an 8. They know they are dating up, women aren't that stupid.

[–]Snazzy_Serval 24 points25 points  (5 children)

The point still stands that women are getting their value artificially inflated because guys they should have no business sleeping with in fact are.

[–]JJ3314 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It probably makes it harder for men in the 4-6 range themselves, who now have to deal with women closer to their level but who overvalue themselves because they once got Chad.

Additionally it’s not exactly like these attractive men don’t hit on attractive women either. Presumably many do, so the epidemic of male thirst, and female overvaluation continues at all levels of attractiveness.

These average to low SMV women are typically the greatest victims of the Wall, and if they get pregnant out of wedlock game over for anything approaching a stable LTR. The human lifespan is long. There is life after 35, and many of these unattractive women are staring down the shaft of 40+ years of abject loneliness in an increasingly indifferent world.

[–]relder2585 98 points99 points  (7 children)

I honestly never understood the mentality of banging a below average girl (once you're older than like 16, anyway). I would much rather jerk off

[–]QuasarBather 112 points113 points  (4 children)

This. The whole “pussy is pussy, man” thing does not compute with me. There is a threshold where I’d literally rather jerk off than touch a hideous land whale. Any chick that’s sub-HB5 is not worth more than my right hand.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 30 points31 points  (3 children)

Once you get used to fine women there's no going back. 7 is my floor at this point haha.

[–]BewareTheOldMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I concur - all p#@#y is not good p#@#y .

[–]QuasarBather 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I wish I had that level of abundance. Painfully average is about my cut off - any uglier than that and I have no sexual inclinations.

[–]jxf15 33 points34 points  (4 children)

When I first got started I had to drop my standards just for practice, now not anymore. Maybe they just want some practice?

[–]ThePlague 32 points33 points  (3 children)

Or it's just the fast food of sex; quick and easy, but subsistence level at best. You know, the old "Fast, Cheap, Good. At best choose 2"

[–]SovereignSoul76 16 points17 points  (1 child)

You can write a book on it and title it "Fast Food Pussy: the staggering cost of ratchet gash"

[–]ThePlague 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LOL. Yeah, I don't think I'm the man for that particular job.

It is what the OP sounded like.

[–]chrisname 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this. The sugar, salt and fat in a Big Mac and fries are designed to activate the reward circuits in your brain so that you either don't notice or don't care that you're eating crap with no nutritional value. I reckon big boobs on fat chicks do the same thing to some men.

[–]andreas-mgtow 10 points11 points  (0 children)

No catfishing going on there. This happens routinely, being good looking is no indicator of being selective, or even red pilled. I know quite a few "Chads" who'd stick it in a garbage can if it were wearing a blonde wig.

[–]alclarkey 27 points28 points  (2 children)

I have observed this phenomenon. I know guys from work, decently built, not ugly, must have a hot wife right? Then I meet the wife, she's a fucking land whale. Then I get razzed for not having a GF. If that's what having a GF means, I'll fucking pass TYVM.

[–]telytuby 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Wait so you deleted a potential plate’s number cos she may fuck other people? I’m confused.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 120 points121 points  (16 children)

Jesus crispy squirrel bits, you guys come to the wrong conclusion about this. Yes an ugly fat chick can fuck too. Ugly fat chicks are a nice warm place to jack off, remember we are the gatekeepers of commitment, they are the gatekeepers of sex. Back in my time we called it "going hogging" when the better looking girls were being bitches, we'd fuck their fat friends. You snooze you lose bitch.

If you're whining about "that's why why average girls won't accept guys on their level" or some similar bullshit, that means you're a thirsty weak fuck who is desperate to fuck anything.

The take away from this is simple. Even ugly fat pimple faced sluts can get laid easily. There is always someone willing our desperate enough. The difference for us is if we are willing or desperate. Take note, girls have a very different life than you, because you haven't gotten laid, or are so far from ten notches doesn't mean the girls you know are right there with you. Any moderately ok looking girl can get laid multiple times a day, 40 random cocks a month is nothing. Ten a day is very possible.

My 21 year old daughter can pull one twice a day so easily it makes me jealous. She likes the skinny wimp guys, mainly because of who her father is... an overly muscled silver back gorilla. The geeks and nerds she brings around heaved never fucked a girl as hot as she is, but she has a drive like mine and needs it often. I'm not a conservative, not religious, and it's her life, so they're her mistakes and learning experiences, I can tell her not to do something and she will just because I said not to. She it's typical of how girls are now. All the 18-28 year old sluts I fuck act the same as my kid. It's rare they stick with one guy for long.

Stop deluding yourself that she hasn't fucked 60+ guys, girls hit that their first year fucking. The only reason her number matters to you is if you want to pair bond with her. That is a fools errand. Girls are playthings, they can earn their own way now, so they have put themselves in this position. You fuck them a while, or once, and move on, getting what you wanted from her. It's maintenance, men need sex and jerking off doesn't get the job done as well as a warm wet hole between some silly bint's thighs.

You fucks whinging about how a 3 can bang 8s are putting pussy on a pedestal, you're gynocentric mentally, being a girl is everything to you. It's no wonder you can't get laid, you worship pussy and that doesn't make a pussy wet.

[–]SendThotsAndPrayers 44 points45 points  (1 child)

This why you have sons, ladies and gents.

[–]Juggernaut_is_here 16 points17 points  (2 children)

beautifully put Sir...having a daughter who fucks 2 different guys a day,every day, in every hole, puts things in perspective

[–]JJ3314 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I was rather deeply moved by the “going hogging” remark myself.

[–]RedPistola 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you have a daughter like that?

[–]AloofusMaximus 5 points6 points  (7 children)

Preach it brother!

All the dude hamstering about fucking hogs is pathetic too. Hell I've done it too, but when I started to value myself; everything changed. If you're not fucking actually attractive women, you're not going to develop abundance.

[–]alphamystic 11 points12 points  (6 children)

60+'s ? Almost all girl ive spoken to, and had sex with between 20-23y in Europe tell me 1-15 partners. Of course i'm not the most naive person on this planet. But not even drunk girls told me numbers above 20. Are you talking about a big city like new york, amsterdam, londen? Or everywhere?

[–]alwayslearning2sell 13 points14 points  (0 children)

probably exaggerating to get his point across. just don't get stuck on the idea that they are only yours or only slept with a handful of people. That being said, it would be easier for women to build that body count than men. AWALT, you're the gatekeeper of commitment, etc.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s easier and seemingly endless in a bigger city for sure.

[–]Bluefish680 4 points5 points  (1 child)

A girl will never be completely honest about her count. Even prostitute never tells their count. They either lost count, or if they remember the number, it will always be under 20. Find me a girl who says she sleeps with more than 60 men and I will give you a million dollar

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Trp always suggests taking that number and multiplying by 3.

[–]WaT30 26 points27 points  (6 children)

Something tells me if attractive guys weren't banging every fucking one with a hole, the situation would be different, wayyyy different. Now, if she, looking like that, get's fucked quite easily, how the fuck would a guy on her level, or slightly above her level, get laid? If fat 3's get nailed by 7's, so twice their value. So basically you need to be an 8, to smash a below-average 4. Wow, fucks sake.

BTW, where do you live bro?

[–]Iwannachokekatie 15 points16 points  (4 children)

No? The first guy that fucked the 3 was an 8/10 bloke who per OPs words was more attractive than OP himself. OP banged the 7.

[–]WaT30 25 points26 points  (1 child)

You missed the point... I know that an 8 guy banged a 3, I've read it...

But we come to the conclusion that because of guys doing shit like this, a fucking fat 3 gets banged by guys twice her level, so no wonder girls won't settle with guys on their level.

[–]spin709 1 points1 points [recovered]

I get that you can measure people's SMV at a glance, but avoid labeling ANY guy as having a higher smv than you. Ever.

It's a mental thing. Perception is reality. To have true confidence in yourself, you have to truly believe that you're a fucking beast, the best looking, the best personality, the best game, etc. in any room you're in. Whether that's true or not doesn't matter, all that matters is if you believe it.

It's very beta to be subconsciensly be thinking that you're second place in any situation. You're the fucking best, and if you take the shot and it doesn't pan out...then just think to yourself "ok...kick rocks, bitch. I'm a beast" and keep it movin!

Champion mentality, positivity, and abundance are all maintained

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know this comment is three days old, but I have to say thanks. You've just completely changed my perspective and helped me get over some hurdles.

[–]Camp_KillYourself 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Believe it but do the work to achieve it

[–]omega_dawg93 12 points13 points  (0 children)

do as you please, but i don't monitor wombs or cocks.

broads gonna fuck who they want and so will guys... it's none of your business; so don't make it yours.

[–]TheBigForklift 5 points6 points  (2 children)

So I’m somewhat new here. Posted a few comments here and there, but just learning at the moment. Two questions for you: (a) what would you suggest those guys to actually do in that situation? (Besides have standards) Even if you have a plate/fuckbuddy/ltr, who is to say she also does not have plates? (B) kinda a follow up, but is it unreasonable to say that If roommate can get three dicks into her room in that amount of time, that 7 you got with could do the same thing?

[–]bostonburrito 1 points1 points [recovered]

a - I woudln't get into a position where I'd be sleeping with a 3, but If I were catfished I'd just leave. You're not obligated their time and you got every right to walk away.

b - you're spot on, hence the last bit of my post.

[–]TheBigForklift 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I originally misread the last part but very good call!

And you’re right, you don’t owe her shit.

[–]Cdsmasher 12 points13 points  (1 child)

How do you even do it? Even when I didn't get laid for years, I had ZERO desire for fat, ugly girls... to the extent that even if they'd come up to me and beg for it, I would absolutely turn them down. Doubt I could it even get it up.

I thought such "high standards" were due to porn and/or bad hormone levels. Been on no fap for weeks, nothing has changed. Got tested for hormone levels etc. and everything is normal.

I just can't help but get pissed off at guys giving fuglies all the validation. Besides the "high libido", have you no pride and self respect?

[–]tobi121097 35 points36 points  (3 children)

The hard part is the fact that in one hour the 3 had the amout of sex a male 3 has in his whole life.

[–]genuine_destructive 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Quiet that inner incel. We all know it’s harder to get laid as a man (because males have more intense/immediate sex drives, we will be down to bang much more frequently -> female 3s get laid; nothing surprising here/kinda on us as men). That said getting laid multiple times in a day is totally within reach for a man (usually with established plates though, not online swipes).

[–]Paladin2903 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He might be an “8” who used to be a “3” and just has shit for self-esteem, and doesn’t realize (consciously) that he’s now a good-looking guy.

It’s one thing to change your physical appearance (for the better), and it’s another for it to finally set in and gain that kinda self-esteem.

Many people aren’t able to win that mental war.

[–]1cappadocianhawk 23 points24 points  (7 children)

Good. More 7+ thots for me.

None of this matters. Only important thing in your life is you. Be attractive. That's what matters. Lift, be fun to be around, and you don't need to worry about how below average girls don't get it on with average guys because of inflated self worth. It's true, but also redundant.

I went to the hospital because of an UTI ( yeah I know ) and the doctor listened to my heart and sent me off to get an ECG. The ECG room was small, only enough room for the machine, two very pretty nurses and a small bed for you to lie on.

I had been there years before, and the nurses were cold, distant and had zero interest in me. Because I was fat. This time, their faces lit up when I entered the room. Obviously after spending all day putting electrodes on fatties and old people with heart issues, I was the only good looking guy they had seen all day.

The one in charge told me to lift up my shirt and pants and lie down. I told her I usually did that after learning a girl's name. They actually laughed at my stupid joke. Then I lifted up my shirt as ordered, and the six pack I worked for so long was revealed to them. You could almost see the panties get flooded. They both made a big deal of putting the electrodes on my body, all the while I told them a silly story about how some nurses in another private hospital forgot some electrodes on my friend after a surgery. They pretty muched giggled at everything I said. Then we were done, and I got up and started to leave I noticed they didn't unlock the door for me. They lock the door while there's a patient in, but apparently they forgot to unlock it when we were done.

I decided to take chance and making it sound like I'm only half serious I said: " I understand you want to lock me in here with you and have your way with me but the good doctor will be worried sick if I don't get back to him, why don't you give me your numbers so I can call you in a few days to make something happen ". And it worked.

tl;dr: Be attractive and you can pretty much do or say really goofy shit and they will eat it up because they will be thinking with their pussy and not their brain.

[–]muscletrain 7 points8 points  (3 children)

You from Cappadocia? Just spent a week there ATVing and Hot Air Ballooning.

[–]hownao[🍰] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Some dudes are straight up ugly and get vag

[–]intensitythatheals1 6 points7 points  (2 children)

What if they have standards that don't match any of yours or mine? Just because they were good looking according to your standards doesn't mean they have to have sex with hot chicks or models. Just like you said, sex is fun. Let them fuck whoever they want and enjoy your fuckdate.

And the girl you fucked., If she fucks you and fucks others does that mean you throw away a chance to see her again? You fucking other women makes you respectable but she is a slut right? I guess now I can see your standards in terms of language and mindset.

[–]tempolaca 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I girl fucking 3 different men in a row is either a prostitute or she's completely insane.

[–]NameUser18 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Jesus... did she even shower between guys? Can you imagine being sloppy thirds on a 3/10? My god.

[–]Vanwaq 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I work with a guy who is in my opinion a 7 and could be a 8 or even a 9 if he works out and gets a legit haircut. He is naturally a good looking guy. When I went to my colleagues wedding and was getting ready to meet his girlfriend that he always talked about and complained about running his life I was shocked and left speechless when he introduced me to a hb2. She was overweight, not good looking and didn't have much a personality either. In the table she was running him. Get me drinks, get me a dessert and I was about to throw up. I myself am a 7 on my best day and wouldn't think of touching that with a 19 feet poll. Poor guy has so much potential but just settled for whatever he can get.

[–]jshtx2117 9 points10 points  (3 children)

  • Want to know what's up with your girl? ... Look no further than her roommate;

  • Roommates mirror each other;

  • They aren't judgmental and they push each others boundaries ;

[–]NapalmSunshine 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Possibly. In my experience most roommates who aren’t long time friends before hand typically hate each other and complain that the other is a slut.

[–]jshtx2117 2 points3 points  (1 child)

  • In which case, the complainer is concurrently projecting and making an accurate observation ;

[–]420KUSHBUSH 5 points6 points  (1 child)

At this point with all the stories I hear on here and in person, I believe uglier girls get more action than the hottest girls do

[–]1empatheticapathetic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lower standards. More validation (dick) needed to feel good.

[–]Iwannachokekatie 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Why wouldn't you splash your load in some easy sluts face if she manages to get your dick hard?

[–]Mach2Machiavellian 60 points61 points  (3 children)

Problem is that below-average girls don’t get me hard.

[–]Iwannachokekatie 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Then you wouldn't go and bang or stay to bang if catfished with a below average chick. Those guys did get hard.

No harm for either party. (Besides the occasional syphilis)

[–]WaT30 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exacly ffs, I seriously don't get how guys can get hard at chicks like that. I slept only once with a fat girl (she was like 20 kgs heavier than in the pictures). Once I entered her apartment and saw her, for a split second I was like, should I leave or not. I said fuck it, since I'm here, might as well go through.

Big, fucking, mistake.

That woman had the worst attitude, and so far (I don't know if this is a blessing or what) only bad sex experience. Unfortunately for me too, somehow I was "hurting" her in missionary (I am big, but no other fucking girl complained), and when we switched to doggy, I came in like 2 minutes after as she was going crazy with moaning and phrases like fuck me harder. After that I tried to cuddle her, and she doesn't like cuddling! Crazy bitch! With her attitude and the way how she talked to me during the resting period, she started to blow me, but I had too much of her crazy shit on my head, and I simply couldn't get hard! You know it's bad when she sucks you, and you can't get hard. We tried again with her on top, I went soft, she called it quit, and soon after that I left.

Because of her, I now basically have PTSD for fat girls and girls with attitude. Never fucking again will I fuck a fat girl.

Seriously guys, for everyones sake, if it's really THAT bad with a dry spell, go to a fucking escort. Pay a hot chick 200€ for one hour, and bang her. Your dick, self-value, and other guys will thank you for that.

[–]aesthetics4ever 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Strange story. Unless you visited a working girl and her roommate was also a working girl. Why would the 3 just casually walk into the room after you and said 7 had sex and casually talk about getting smashed by two randos in front of you?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro that fat hoe was collecting rent.

[–]cl3537 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are landwhales that are prudes. There are landwhales that are whores.

This one example proves nothing. You need to realize hotness and promiscuity are independent.

[–]SovereignSoul76 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get the people saying "Focus on yourself". But 8's banging 3's does have a devastating effect on the entire sexual landscape. Women operate on the hedonic treadmill of SMV: once they go up, they rarely go back down, even at the cost of driving themselves nutty looking for commitment.

[–]TheStumblingWolf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At first I thought they were men with previously low smv who hasn't adjusted to their value, had low self esteem or something. But 3 in one night? What are the odds? This is a crazy story.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There used to be a little slut whose boyfriend lived next door to me. She was a hottie too, until she got knocked up and deep into alcoholism.

Anyway, one night before she was really dating that guy, she fucked three guys the same night in this house. And it wasn't even her house.

[–]xyzzy8 2 points3 points  (1 child)

One man's 3 is another man's 10.

[–]TheSx505 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LOL thx for making my noon man

[–]throwabcdaway3 1 points1 points [recovered]

Bad sex is better than no sex. At least u dont fuck it up with an hb9 when uve railed hb5 every two days before coz u have training

[–]LibertyIsNotFree 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't know about that. Bad sex is awful. Then there's that person still there you either need to throw out or take home still.

[–]long-lostfriend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't had much bad sex, but bad sex is absolutely worse than no sex at all.

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[–]SteveRogersPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of my best friends has great game and is a good lookin dude.... one time sent me a pic of a blob he just finished fuckin and I said “really a fat chick?” all he said was “sometimes you just gotta to it” it’s really that IDGAF attitude in some guys

[–]JerryLawlerPigFace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao this was legendary. She is now known as, and only as:


[–]steed_jacob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So... I'm new to this sub and have no clue AWALT, HB7, and HB3 mean. Would someone mind explaining?

edit: i just found that link in the sidebar. please don't attack me

[–]Atolla2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You only need to go clubbing to see this in action. Solid blokes cracking onto the chicks that look like toads, some lads will take anything they can get.

[–]pbar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would rather, much rather, sit and read a book about Winston Churchill, or build a piece of furniture, or just about anything, than...errr, be intimate...with a fat girl.

[–]Camp_KillYourself 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why can't we expose these dirty thots

[–]FatStacks6969 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You realize some women are sluts and some are not right? Just because they have the potential to be getting banged nonstop doesn't mean they are doing it/they don't find that gross?

[–]telenoobies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u sure she wasnt an escort??

[–]frontiermarine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the real question is...did you get an STD test afterwards?

[–]HappySmaug 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a lot more common than people think. My former roommate had a fat torso, funny looking face, tooth picks for legs and what appeared to be an inverted ass. She would always get dick from guys who look as though they could do way better. Funny thing is they would never be seen in public with her.

[–]officerkondo 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Whoa, a friend of mine is one of those guys.

He's 40 and been divorced a few years. He's RP post-divorce but still has some unresolved beta issues in my view. He swipes right on everyone and when he matches, he will meet and smash that girl without hesitation regardless of the girl's ham planet or uggo status. When I call him on this, he just talks about getting notches on his belt and "unlocking achievements" such as "Feats of Strength" (his term for smashing ham planets). Can you tell he likes video games?

What I find most baffling is that he is in good enough shape to have a shirtless profile pic and has above-average facial genetics. He's short (5'7") but that shit can't be seen in his profile pics. I am truly befuddled at the poor quality of his matches.

Ok, I thought of one girl he didn't smash: a wheelchair-bound dwarf with a substandard face. He met the girl and saw a movie with her, but left it at that. He said he just couldn't bring himself to do it. So, perhaps there is a kernel of pride inside that can grow.

[–]Cdsmasher 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I am very sorry, but your friend is an absolute degenerate. Simply disgusting and one of the main reasons for the fucked up state we normal (superior) men are in. I have a similar "friend". He is 35 and has been working out intensely 5xweek for several years. Athletic body, decently attractive with good style but a bit short. He thirsts over 3s, 4s whatever he can get his hands on. He banged a single fat mom a few years older than him, and even tried to get into an LTR with her despite her extreme baggage. She would call and fight with him over the phone during work hours like they were high school children with shit like "y u no call me???". I couldn't help but roll my eyes at the shit he was doing and he partly believed I was jealous and belittled me for having had very few partners. A single girl I had was worth more than the dozens of crap he could pull.

[–]Kennigmatic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well written story. You should become a freelancer.

[–]rapeturd2006 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Is this how all of you talk? You sound like retarded scientoligists with your fucking stupid language. She's one one on the tone scales, blahhh blah blah bleet. Seriously. You should stop it. It sound idiotic.

[–]HS-Thompson 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I only fuck women I consider attractive but I know plenty of guys that don't give a fuck. And there's always a few guys that have like poor taste of course. Sometimes guys just want a warm wet hole. Also plenty of guys have performance anxiety and like it when the stakes are low.

In any event it's not really the guys fault. As we know biologically sperm is abundant and low value. It's the women that should have been socialized better.

[–]2Dmva100 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I usually will only fuck a 5 or less if my notch count is about to make it to the next 10 (i.e. if im on 39, 49, 59, 69,) ive made exceptions for the sake of my ego to get to 40, 50, 60, and 70, so fucking that fatty here and there makes me a good man because I respected a wimminnn and didn't judge her pillsburys

[–]JJ3314 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Holy shit I don’t know whether to laugh or cry bro. These comments man—keep ‘em up!

[–]look_good 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol ur putting urself on a pedestal bro...ur talking ab tinder, pure #s game, stay humble

[–]Casd12 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Please have standards?

lol, this is the same as asking people to stop eating fast food. Its quick, easy and gets the job done.

women get dick at the click of a finger. Even the lower class.

Stop being so jealous. I bet you wont complain if you were a 3 and are able to summon HB7s at the click of a finger. Just because some people have it better and easier than you doesnt mean you should have it that way as well. The world isnt fair, stop getting butthurt about it.

[–]Herdsengineers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like she's selling it.

[–]SAPPHIREAURA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is dark because women then essentially don’t even have to take care of themselves bc they’re still gonna get dick. Also guilty of it myself it’s true bc of thirst, insecurity. I’ll meet w chubsters on tinder pushing it then in person they’re 20 lbs heavier. These fat hoes are eating.

[–]Rudeyyyy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Ok real quick. I’m a 20 year old virgin and I have 12% body fat. I’m in great shape and have a strong jawline and got my braces off. I “revamped” myself if you wanna call it that. Dressing better, grooming, etc. the whole 9 yards. I feel like a 8 and I posted on that am I ugly subreddit before I found TRP and women rated me a 6-7. Still the only thing I get is fat women. Matches on social media, in person they come up to me and I want none of it. My friends tell me that I need to get laid but I refuse with a fat woman because it’s a huge turnoff. I’d rather approach and try to pull a woman I’m interested in from the start than have Pearl from Spongebob come up to me. I’ve always had standards I think. My friends would fuck anything with a hole. It’s sad now a days tbh.

[–]Hypnot0ad 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Bro, you're only 20. Take a look where that puts you on the SMV chart: https://therationalmale.com/2013/06/20/smv-ratios-attachment/

Just keep working on self improvement and career and the situation will improve in time.

If they match on social media but bail in person, it's most likely because they can smell your low confidence. Maybe you could find a nice looking post wall 30 year old to teach you the ropes in bed?

[–]Rudeyyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh know I match and sometimes they give me the number I just never meet up because they’re fat or just ugly. Ironically my confidence has been raised a lot since before I found TRP. I was thinking about raising my tinder age higher to meet with some more uh how would you put it...experienced women?

[–]Loze1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live in the ghetto of a third world Caribbean island. I work at a mini mart and I've seen most guys here in LTRs with HB1-HB4 about 60% of the time. I don't think I could ever lower my standards for sex. Had a few opportunities to do so but I refused. No attraction and even if I'm stoned there's the risk of getting some sort of STD because women with lower SMV in my country usually has it in one form or another.

[–]EPArt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just feel like he smashed the hb7 or he was the one who had the threesome, I mean how could he in his right mind do such a thing. Update:Okay i read the rest either she is a hooker or a bitch who is offering men money or bitcoins I refuse to believe she is effortlessly defeating men far above her power level without something to grease the wheels. Witchcraft,hypnosis strong drugs shes a high ranking fbi/mi5 agent...fucking infinity gaunlet. I swear I know they can get dick but that's not natural I reject this reality thats some matrix shit. But also good call at the end.

[–]SideBouttaYoleague2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yo u gay if youre able to rate the attractiveness of men that accurately wtf

[–]Alpha_Jedi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For some dudes the thirst is real. It is a possible catfish scenario, since we don't know what her profile is like (or if she's using actual pics of herself). But still, it's amazing how we can feel for a fellow man. Strange times we live in my friend. Strange times. Cheers.

[–]MrCarepig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking nasty ass landwhale ass ass

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the definition of dudes who say "pussy is pussy" they'll fuck Nothing that walks lowering the standards of all men!

You should've said "ey bruh you can do better, come on now!" Also its out duty to spread the msg. If you can inspire one recruit you've done your job

[–]boatsbeaton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont know what your scale is benchmarked to? Maybe to these other guys think shes more like a 5 or 6?

I'm not proud of it, but sometimes you just want some pussy without putting in any effort at all. If I'm wanting to bang now rather than spend a couple hours closing, I'll drop my standards a bit.

[–]redcontrition 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes you just gotta bust a nut 🤷🏽‍♂️

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah it's hard to put your head that a hb 8 is the same as a hb3 lol

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep in mind this is also how STDs get spread the most. As a rule of thumb, the more gnarly the chick, the more you should wrap it.

[–]naIamgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are all striving to be alpha here so I will ask what kind of a man goes to Tinder to lose self respect in the first place? Do you think a real alpha goes to Tinder to get laid?

Anyways these 7+ dudes are getting their nuts wet for the night but they are doing a huge disservice to the brotherdom.

[–]Magicmatt352 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What does AWALT mean? Great story by the way. Is there more of an analysis you could make about women being able to sleep with any guy they want? What does that mean for us men?

[–]GREYnRED 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's her roommate. They're good friends. She's bound to have done the exact same thing as HB3 in the past.

Wow man I never would've thought of that. That's why I'm here. The knowledge we get on this Sub is life saving.

[–]AshyBoneVR4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This one's easy. That HB3 with a decent rack, she's not catfishing. I can promise you all her pictures are of her face before the breakouts, and tits. Angles for fat girls are wonderful things. I will never again underestimate the black magic that girls are capable of when it comes to angles.

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