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[–]As-You-Were 580 points581 points  (5 children)

This sub only continues to impress, I’ve saved this to read again and again.

I remember I had a plate transitioning into fwb/ltr status, (not thats she’s special, she just hung in there...) and thought she had some kind of say in how I spent my time, so I ignored her. I went into my living room and went on my Mac.

She hovered around me for at least 40 minutes until she left. She returned like 10 minutes later saying “I guess I’ll be going then” in a sort of snide snarky tone. I reply with “I’m low on milk, be a doll and bring in some when you come back” without moving my eyes from the screen.

She started laughing, dropped her bag, went out and got milk, then came over and kissed me and apologised for being a bitch.

Exit REALLY works.

[–]gains_o_clock 42 points43 points  (1 child)

yeah for sure; I really enjoyed the examples I wish the more seasoned RPers would give more examples to learn from as that's the best way I learn

[–]ShotgunTRP 85 points86 points  (0 children)

THis is one of those “good ol days” posts

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[–]mizugi_lover 99 points100 points  (0 children)

This made me react with an audible 'Wow'!

The explanations are so simple and applicable in other social settings with examples to boot! Thanks for this. I'll save this to re-read and internalize.

[–]DullIntroduction 152 points153 points  (3 children)

I use A&A a lot, it's especially useful in social settings to keep the mood light and defuse immediately a potential awkward situation.

Use it wisely though, always within a strong frame. That is the difference between A&A and just laughing at yourself and becoming a joke.

[–]1TrenGod37 71 points72 points  (2 children)

The hardest part in all this is doing it enough that not only does it become second nature it becomes who are you are. Frame.

When first learning about this it’s very easy to get caught up in your head thinking of something witty to say. To start thinking “am I explaining myself. Fuck I am!”

You’ll be in a good run and your LTR will catch you off guard and you’ll be DEERing away again.

It’s very important to note this is a slow process. You will fuck up. But you will get better. That’s why we say STFU at first because you’re likely to say something dumb when you think you’re AA. And the girls going to be looking at you like “wtf are you talking about”

Be patient and don’t think you’re going to be a master at this shit right off the rip.

[–]DullIntroduction 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The best thing is to practice A&A (or other techniques) among close friends, where you can look dumb once in a while with no worries. Take note of what works, what doesn't, what's used by others.

[–]SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When are you going to make a new post?

[–][deleted] 112 points113 points  (0 children)

That's by far the most helpful post I have read on this subreddit. Pure Gold

[–]Guardian_of_Justice 116 points117 points  (3 children)

Most of what you say is correct. You didn't account for one fact- you are overdoing it. Too many males exit BP and instantly try to be an Alpha and end up overdoing RP. Use it wisely. Being too cocky doesnt work.

[–]WolfofAnarchy 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Being cocky in a relaxed and still polite manner (aka Daniel Craig in James Bond) works extremely well. Shows that you don't take things seriously, are confident and can laugh at things.

[–]Vendettos 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Bond-like frame is the best to have in every situation. Relaxed masculine and witty

[–]Frontestgecko 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Being too cocky when you previously were not doesn’t work.

Being entitled to the point of it being almost offensive works surprisingly well and goes hand in hand with cockiness. It should go without saying that each situation and dynamic is different.

But when it comes to sexual interactions with women being self entitled and cocky as a guy is the morally correct dynamic. Of course you have to actually be the type of man that warrants having the attitude and a requirement is having mastery over yourself.

[–]rahl_r 25 points26 points  (3 children)

Two thoughts...

1) Once upon a time, some wise guy recommended adopting the dad frame - as in behaving like the dad of the world and treating others like your children. A well-meaning dad, that is - not a deadbeat/wife-beater/absentee...

Sadly, said wise guy didn't explain the dad frame further. Now, I think this article does it some justice. Still, I'd like to read up more on the subject...

2) Some guys (right in this thread) mentioned that behaving in a red-pilled manner means being a disagreeable guy. The way I see it... it is far, far away from truth. The spineless sort of a man volunteers himself to take all the perceived conflicts from his surroundings as his own, effectively throwing himself into long-lasting agony & creating a bizzare show for the spectators. Still, he actually does not solve any conflicts, he just cluelessly martyrs himself for no results. On the other hand, the DARE thing, or the dad frame thing, it seems to be a sort of mastery, as it produces results fast and solves inter-personal conflicts the effective way.

[–]Papiless 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I disagree.

Being alpha is basically not giving a shit about what anyone thinks about you because you have complete abundance in regards to friends, women, job opportunities/self-employed etc. What this means is that you can basically be honest about what you think about shit and be disagreeable if needed, which ironically gives you more friends and women + gives you percieved higher status at work. Conflicts only creates agony for betas, because they care/are afraid about the outcome of a conflict or care about what people think of them. An alpha does not care.
Alphas are HONEST, which means DISAGREEABLE if they do not agree.

[–]smyger 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How can you be machavellian without being disagreeable? Maybe being machavellian is not necessary to be succesfull with women?

[–]rahl_r 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If I understand the concept correctly... it'd be using the minimum amount of disagreeable to get your point across. That, and/or using the disagreeable move in an ultimate constructive direction.

Using the dad frame analogy, what would a shitty dad do? No rules, no boundaries - resulting in 4AM curfew, temper tantrums, and coca cola/ cheetos diet. Either that, or he'd be the type who bursts into fits of rage here and there, uncontrollably...

[–]newName543456 16 points17 points  (0 children)

DEER is a byproduct of taking other person too seriously.

Don't take women you want to hook up with too seriously. They don't really want that anyways.

[–]1InscrutablePUA 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Fucking A+ post with a gold star. If this was the only TRP article I was able to read, I'd still be able to get laid and handle my women. Shit it would even apply in dealing with BP men and life in general. Saved, and should be sidebar-ed because it's fundamental to pretty much any interaction you will have.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Bravo. Thorough yet not exhausting. Provides great examples. Humorous pokes at women in good taste. A+.

Mods, give him a point.

[–]rudra_1793 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Nothing new here in terms of information . But your writing style is very consistent and easy to follow . Cheers

[–]WSBagholder 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is the best post I've ever read on this subreddit that is not on the sidebar. Great job OP. It is bookmarked.

Put it in the sidebar, mods, it is well worth it.

[–]Celicni 8 points9 points  (8 children)

"Would you argue with a child"

This is unrelated to the actual post, but I believe I have an actual problem. I CAN NOT FUCKING STAND WHEN SOMEONE IS WRONG. Like, if a 3 year old came up to me and told me 2+2=3 I'd argue until either death or until I change his mind. How to fix?

[–]FUCK_YEA_GLITTER 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Maybe you have an anylitical and autistic mind, or you have little self control

[–]Celicni 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well I'd assume so, aren't we all a little autistic if we need a creepy internet cult to tell us how to get chicks? Trying to figure out how to fix that.

[–]ThePlague 4 points5 points  (2 children)

You just have to not care. You know the answer, you know they're wrong, so unless their misinformation somehow directly affects you let them wallow in their ignorance with a knowing smile.

[–]Celicni 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah the point is I can't do that.

[–]ThePlague 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, if you see yourself as the world's teacher, I guess you just have to go with that. I suggest adding a great deal of condescending mockery to at least have fun with it.

[–]Cryptoprins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Learn to admit that you're wrong even when you absolutely know you're right. If you're confident you don't care how an idiot perceives you, but in a heated debate with an idiot you're absolutely going to hurt them and that is not how you should treat other people.

I remember my mom accusing me of not doing enough chores in the house on the weekends I visit; in particular not cleaning the dishwasher (Which i know is absolutely false as I do that all the fucking time). My first instinct was to defend. How could that blind cunt not see my effort? But decided to say: Alright, I will try to do better now.

Instead of creating a bitter and resentful situation I made her feel important. You clearly saw her mood instantly change from annoyed to happy and the rest of the day she was sweet as can be.

I'm pretty sure someone could get away with never cleaning the dishwasher if only you were insightful enough to apply this all the time.

[–]maryjellybelly 1 points1 points [recovered]

"Why aren't the dishes done?" --- "Cus you're not in the kitchen babe." "What?" --- "You heard me, go take care of it." --- "Okay, yes sir."

Get the fuck outta here. This does not happen. Christ dude...

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s not a sign of a happy relationship.

[–]DanishApollon 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Oh but it does. I use that with my girl in so many scenarios.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Your girl says “yes sir” to you...? Non jokingly?

[–]DanishApollon 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Yes. Well, the Danish translation. She's a good girl.

[–]maryjellybelly 1 points1 points [recovered]

Does she have a personality?

Serious question, it just doesn’t sound healthy. I can’t imagine this outside of some sort of weird 1950’s neckbeard type of fantasy.

Don’t get me wrong I’m all for a lot of shit that’s said around here but this is either total bullshit or there’s something about your relationship as I picture it from this bit of info that gives me a bad gut feeling.

Not talking shit, just telling you like I see it and want to know what you think

[–]Bluefish680 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I make all my plates call me master. First, use it in bed as a sexual roleplay. Then jokingly tell her to call you that outside the bed. First they will jokingly go along with it. Gradually they will just do it without thinking. A woman seek to please her man after all. Is it healthy? Well, I am happy and she is giggling so who cares? It's a fun thing to do.

[–]Trowawayantifap28 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Great post my man. Thanks for this detailed write up! Much appreciated.

[–]BlackCraneStoic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why this isn't on the side-bar yet is beyond me. The mods need a dose of the ban-hammer for this blunder.

[–]OneCovah 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't complain, don't explain, good romantic advice if there was any, and I am sure someone has brought this up in the 167 comments before mine.

The real man says, fuck me or fuck you. There is nothing else. What is a woman for? If she does not put out, then good bye. After all, they say no to us and men need to say no to women. Not tonight? Then fuck you, I'm going sky diving (or scuba diving or earn a PhD, real men do not need women to be real men).

Red flags are important. As soon as the games start, the relationship is over. If you are worth keeping then she'll control the games. When the games start, she shows contempt. Games meaning play hard to get, conditional consent, capricious consent, the whining listed in topic, dishonesty, discourtesy, and whatever else.

Time is on our side, the man's side. Woman's beauty is a gift of nature and as nature gives, nature takes away. Manhood is earned, and endures. A woman can never win her games, time makes her the loser. He who laughs last laughs best, and that is the man.

Love and marriage are temporary. She will lose her passion after marriage, guaranteed, and the children will grow up and more away, and the woman will be a sexless shrew, and the man in his 50s, 60s, 70s. etc. an alpha male fertile and skilled and affluent. I believe the majority of men on forums like this are too young to see the great wheel of time, and see the 20-something babes and wonder, what is wrong with me? Nothing, it gets better.

[–]abcgoodyabc 203 points204 points  (9 children)

So many words.

this is the essence - The only way to win an argument with a woman is to CHANGE HER MOOD - NOT HER MIND

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 179 points180 points  (5 children)

The amount of upvotes for this comment is sad. Lazy shits. That tldr has no practical value outside all the examples and explanations he gave. If you want dumbed down posts, go read something more appropriate for your intellect like Cosmo’s Top 10 Kardashian things bla blah. Cant even finish the sentence, that’s more your speed bud. All aboard the short bus, choo choo!

[–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (3 children)

Very true. OP's post tells you HOW to change her mood and how to deal with her shit tests. His post is a great read and is worth every second.

"Change her mood" is great advice, but it doesn't tell you shit for how to do it. Women's moods aren't easily changed if you don't know how, you'll just end up squirming.

[–]seekingeagle 1 points1 points [recovered]

Yeah. Especially when he said that thing about being an enigma that can be stabbed without suffering from any wound.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Let the man be passionate, damn it!

[–]Troll_Name 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The amount of upvotes for this comment is sad. Lazy shits.

Receiving less attention is a bad grade for the dude on stage, not the audience. Posting a thread on a message board doesn't make you an authority, it makes you a karaoke singer. I like OP's post but I also notice the extra effort it takes to go over this writing and obtain no extra information. The audience doesn't get a grade, they get a show and take it or leave it.

This is mainly for all the youtubers out there: don't make your stuff slower-than-necessary (length = slowness, but good organization is a speedup) and then complain about people not finishing it. Someone else on Youtube (or message boards etc) does the same job as you, charges the same price, and gets it done faster or cleaner or more thoroughly.

[–]AlphaNathan 38 points39 points  (1 child)

It's actually a pretty fun read, but yeah that's the tldr.

All "game" is dominance/submission. Trying to change her mind is moving into her frame, which is submission. Changing her mood is dominant frame holding.

[–]ValarMorghulis90 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel like the deep explanations (the irony) help the ducklings who can't do this stuff naturally, which by the way ducklings, if you're reading this then go practice. You'll probably be awkward at first, but take it from a former incel, just go do it. It works out eventually.

[–]uebermacht 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Gread contribution!
An addition to The Third horseman: Don't Talk to Me Like a Bitch.
/u/Whisper explained the topic on point!

[–]YesKiddo 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I am so glad that i have found this sub at a young age.

[–]drbaker87 6 points7 points  (1 child)

You'll regret it in a decade.

[–]BaelorsBalls 13 points14 points  (0 children)

“be a social, amusing asshole, not a cuck” basic tutorial #1 here

[–]TheMassivePassive 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Yup. Women expect you to lead. When you don't, they lose all respect in an instant. Luckily you can win it back quickly too, because of how fickle they are.

[–]KebabKoobideh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Upvoted and saved. Thanks.

[–]SlySoothSayer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

High quality post 1+

[–]-Mosbius-Designs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Damn. Thank you for this post.

[–]juju515 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I always try to rationalize... :/ I have to stop doing that... but my brain just works that way... have to try harder...

[–]Sqtlol 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Quality post! One thought that strikes me, and continues to do so: does being red pilled suggest that you have to be close minded in situations and not take advice where you could actually grow and develop yourself?

Personally, I work for a powerful career woman who has the possibility of teaching me all sorts of tricks from the industry. Now, due to her personality and behaviour - she strikes me more like a man, she is super dominant in her field and doesn’t take no for an answer. I just can’t help but feel that being «immovable» in your thoughts, values and believes proves to be a detriment towards your continous growth IF and WHEN you are still young and have things yet to comprehend and learn.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 5 points6 points  (0 children)

OP is the default method of speaking to a female. Your situation is an exception. The second you no longer work for her, revert back to the default. Never accept a power dyanmic in the female’s favor, ever.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Red Pill men tend to be highly disagreeable - however, there is nuance involved in all facets of life.

In order to be a "career women", she must be deeply entrenched in masculine energy.

In my experience, and stereotypically, powerful career women see their favorite underlings as children, their sons and daughters who they can instill knowledge and wisdom into.

On the other hand, bossy career women see their normal underlings as minions - disposable and nameless NPC's like from a roleplaying video game.


You don't need to blindly follow everything. Awareness of everything, then application of what works is what counts.

Think of the red pill as a tool box, where you take out and use what you need to get the job done.

You could consider shadowing this boss woman, following her, then usurping her in a top-tier, red pill, machiavellian power play.

My 0.02

[–]Fyrjefe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you recognise a moment of value in another person, I don't see why you wouldn't engage. An overarching theme that I got from the post is to always affirm your own value. If you're encountering a professional women with more experience, it does not diminish you to glean from it. It's not a zero sum game, which feminism has assumed in its fight for "equal rights". Knowledge is capitalistic: value begets value. Hope that helps.

[–]Sove131 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tbh it's great post, I like the comments.

[–]celloist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Grade A gold post

[–]jackandjill22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Overcoming the anger/delusions is the hard part. Are that it's the same story, different variations.

[–]Gaujo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How can I copy the OP on mobile? I want to save it on my phone as a text file.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sticky this/sidebar this please, mods. It's not exactly new, but it is comprehensive and well-explained with good examples.

[–]IClogToilets 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Trump needs to read this. His constant counter attacks on Twitter make him look small.

[–]PinkPilledRed17 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Only to people who don't understand his tactics. He's playing 10 dimensional chess.

[–]CalfReddit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's because he is an idiot who doesn't understand science and hates the LGBT

[–]screwston281 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bless your heart brother. Some wise logic right there.

[–]SavingMasculinity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

**SLOW CLAP**

Bravo. Brilliant post.

[–]bosshog234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anything said by a woman is meaningless by virtue of it being said by a woman.

Internalizing this truth, and choosing not to engage her deficient intellect or failures to grasp basic reality, keeps the pussy cream flowing, no matter how bat-shit crazy or blatantly wrong she is.... if that is what you are going for.

If she is intolerable, leave, but that depends what your intentions are.

You can’t reason with a feeling.

Feminism has created a hoard of women in denial of reality. This post offers a lot of good advice.

[–]filrabat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While I agree that always, perhaps most of the time, accepting guilt is not a healthy way to go about things (depending on the particular woman you're out with), at least 1/4 the stuff in the list is a legit complaint (e.g., "Why were you flirting with her", "Why didn't you pick up the kids" (when you previously agreed), and "Why didn't you pay the bills" (your fair share or your turn to do so, that is). That's just being a responsible and decent human being. As for the rest, well - the problem is that too many men start with the assumption that sexual success is the end all, be all of life, then build their whole skyscraper on that foundation. If a man is truly independent, then he won't put priority on getting laid at all - even the ability to get laid. He finds fulfilment in adherence to his own values and principles (so long as he's not hurting or degrading others in the process). He certainly doesn't need a woman or offspring to feel complete. Anyone who doubts this is simply misunderstanding what "independent" means.

[–]BIueJayWay 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Women are not your "subordinates".

"Why aren't the dishes done?" --- "Cus you're not in the kitchen babe."

"What?" --- "You heard me, go take care of it." --- "Okay, yes sir."

"yes sir"? I'd stop watching so much porn, and actually go talk to a woman for once.

[–]WadWaddy 1 points1 points [recovered]

Girls are just people, talk to them like it. It's not hard if you have any social skills and don't have this weird sexist mindset about every interaction

[–]mattizie 9 points10 points  (1 child)

DEFLECT:
Why the fuck are you even here.

AA&AA:
Awesome, how about you start a PUA sect based on the notion that girls are just people and you shouldn't be sexist. In order to not be sexist, you have to treat them the same. But you don't kiss and fuck other (non-girl) people right? Well here's a trick that will allow you to fuck chicks but also not be sexist. What you need to do is treat all genders the same, so you need to fuck wamyn, men, trans-men, trans-women, bisexually gendered people, and those that identify as an apache attack helicopter. It's not gay or mental illness, it's just being non-sexist. Also because men are the ones that are "on top", but women aren't, well that's sexism right there, so be sure to bring a strapon with you for your next date cis-gendered woman so that you're not being sexist.

REPEAT:
But really, why the fuck are you here?

EXIT:
Fuck off cunt

[–]GeuseyBetel 1 point2 points  (24 children)

Girls are people. But girls and boys are MASSIVELY different because of these chemicals called testosterone and estrogen. It's not sexist, it's reality.

[–]WadWaddy 1 points1 points [recovered]

This is exactly the problem that people on this sub seems to have. Girls and boys are NOT so massively different that you cannot have the same conversation with both. Talk about exactly the same things with girls as you would with boys, and 99% of the time it will be completly fine. The reason that 'red pill' people can't do this is because in every interaction with a woman you have this underlying idea that they are some strange foreign creature, and therefore you cant hold a conversation because you don't respect them as a normal person equal to you. It seems that a lot of this comes from a weird idea that women exist for you to try and fuck, which since we're no longer cavemen and live in civilized society doesn't fly anymore.

[–]ShotgunTRP 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There are thousands of men on this sub who tried communicating in a rational conversation led interaction you suggest

Tried it over and over to no avail

This is my natural state and I’ve tried it over and over

Then we start experimenting with this between the lines type of power talk. And you know what? It works.

We don’t want it to work, we want rational conversation to work because it seems right and it’s the easiest way to communicate as a male.

Then you start to notice the naturals do all this stuff naturally. People with high confidence and positions of power do this stuff naturally

But whatever. You keep doing you. We’ll see you back here in a couple of months under a different screen name

[–]RedPillCoach 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Girls and boys are NOT so massively different that you cannot have the same conversation with both.

If the goal is to have sex with the women in question then you absolutely cannot have the same conversations with both sexes. This sub is about sexual strategy and until you realize that men and women approach sexual strategy very differently you will have problems.

weird idea that women exist for you to try and fuck

This is incell language. No thanks. Are you really claiming that women exist for you to "talk with" about politics, religion, and philosophy?

Good luck with that.

Women exist to have sex and grow babies just like we exist to have sex and implant babies.

[–]WadWaddy 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Are you really claiming that women exist for you to "talk with" about politics, religion, and philosophy?

Yes. Exactly that. Have done and will keep doing. But you keep on treating them like children and then complain that they don't like you. And in 5 years when you grow up a bit you'll realise just how dumb that really is

[–]RedPillCoach 15 points16 points  (0 children)

when you grow up a bit

Nice try. I am 50 and have been married for more than 25 years. In 5 years you will be the one to wake up and realize that your supplicating "talk to them like people" strategy has got you friend zoned by every woman you ever loved and/or relegated to a deadbedroom marriage with a woman who despises you.

You will learn- when you grow up. Right now that process would be relatively painless. You can just take the Red Pill now brother or you can wait until the Family Courts use that giant Red Suppository lined with sandpaper and glass and shove it up your bleeding ass.

[–]GeuseyBetel 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Boys and girls can just have conversations... of course.

But if you want to appeal sexually attractive to women, you have to appeal to the same biological mechanisms that tell them "this is a worthy mate, make babies with him"... developed through millions of years of evolution.

Yes we're no longer cavemen and live in a civilized society... but biology doesn't GAF about your civilized society.

[–]WadWaddy 1 points1 points [recovered]

The post was entitled Talking to women, not how can I get laid. Regardless, if you want to attract women then actually respecting them as a person is a good start. If you actually buy into the whole 'women want a bad boy to disrespect them' meme then prepare for a lifetime of empty, failed relationship with no real meaning.

[–]GeuseyBetel 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I think it's implied in a dating sense though. People here understand you can't do this with your female boss...

I cant speak for others, but applying TRP theory has made me immensely more successful with women then ever in my life.

[–]Fyrjefe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think you need to reread this post again. It's fine that you are willing to critique the content, but you haven't even addressed anything there specifically. Broad statements like, "why can't you just talk to her" and "no need to be a bad boy" don't address what was discussed. Here, I will start. Can we at least agree that there is something wrong with DEER? Are there any benefits?

[–]infamous3238 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are still plugged in. Read the sidebar again and before you comment next.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

I mean at base evolutionary thinking yes women do exist for us to try and fuck and we exist to fuck them. That’s how we have 8 billion people on this planet.

I agree red pill takes gender interactions a bit far in some ways but this post is pure gold. One of the best contributions I’ve seen on this website.

And in what world are you living in where guys and girls talk about the same thing 99% of the time? I don’t talk in a manner as extreme as OP, probably only 60% as extreme RP as the examples he laid out. But women respond the best when you treat them in the fashion laid out in this post.

[–]1TrenGod37 6 points7 points  (8 children)

Dude come on. You’re at the wrong place for this.

You’re not changing anyone’s mind here with your ideas. That’s like running Into a church trying to convince them Satan is really God and you should follow him instead. Good luck.

[–]WadWaddy 1 points1 points [recovered]

Well there's no point saying this stuff to anyone but this sub, because everyone else already realises this stuff. You know the 'internet bubble' is a bad thing right, and everyone should try to hear ideas that may contradict their own. Just hoping that even 1 person reads this and changed their view, even if it's unlikely.

[–]RedPillCoach 15 points16 points  (1 child)

everyone should try to hear ideas that may contradict their own.

We get all that from the MSM, every woman we meet, and the rest of the internet. We don't need "equal time" on the Red Pill. The Red Pill IS equal time.

[–]1TrenGod37 7 points8 points  (4 children)

The fact you are spending time in a sub that talks about a certain set of principles. And are wasting your time trying to change everyones mind about them to fit YOUR belief, for whatever reason. Is retarded.

You either have a really boring ass life. Or you have a mental issue you should probably spend time taking care of instead of being a blue pill hero.

The issue isn’t even that you’re “right” or “wrong” its the why.

Best of luck. Take care recruiter.

[–]WadWaddy -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I'm revising for finals so yeah pretty bored. Also this came up on r slash all (comment was removed because I linked it originally) and was guilded so I was interested. It's retarded to try and persuade others? Why are you so against discussion that dares challenge your view?

[–]BlackCraneStoic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To discuss is to compromise. What point does it make to debate ideologies with invisible computer people?

TRP isn't a platform for expression as much as it's a buffet of sexual strategy and truthful realities.

If you dislike something here just move on to another dish or leave the restaurant. It's a dick move to spit in the serving tray before everyone has gotten their fair fill. That's what your questions bring to the table.

[–]ITouchMyselfAtNight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well played, sir. Everyone is DEERing you instead of DAREing you.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 3 points4 points  (9 children)

Vague bp mantra nonsense.

/u/theredpike, ban him.

[–]modTheRedPike 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Done

[–]WadWaddy 1 points1 points [recovered]

He disagreed, quick protect me from seeing anything I don't like. Grow up

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Better protect yo mama. Im about to bust my wadwaddy on her face. “Warlock was here”

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Wow, roasted by his own name. Top quality Kek right'ere.

Just saw his latest comment, bloopster confirmed.

[–]modTheRedPike 8 points9 points  (4 children)

You triggered a brigade. A+

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Where are they coming from?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Apparently this post showed up on slash R slash all and gilded, according to wadwaddy.

and I noticed more posters from slash subhumanoids slash and slash braincels slash are shitting up our comments sections

Edit : and MGTOWs. Idk why they feel the need to come on here and say stupid shit

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You've hit a nerve, all the white knights are coming out of the woodwork.

[–]AwkwardEmpath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great read. The examples and explanations were great for someone like me. Thanks for sharing.

[–]Proto_Sigma 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know if my nomination for the sidebar means anything, but I'm going to give it anyway, this post deserves it.

[–]burrrahhh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Read about this in no more mr nice guy. If you recognize when you go into deer mode and stop doing that you will eventually do what OP suggested.

[–]SKRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Posts like this are worth more than all the theory, cause real life has no end to the variety of tests it throws at. Keep it up OP!

[–]Alpha_Jedi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well written. This should be stickied. Cheers.

[–]testanum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is one of those posts that you re-read 10 times, take notes on and save to read over and over again.

Fuckin gold.

Thankyou.

[–]MrAnderzon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When a FWB says i need to communicate/text more besides logistics.

I look at it like a terrorist wanting to negotiate. Trp: We don't negotiate with terrorist. Exit and Defelect

And keep the texts to logistics only. Rare occasion should i text a "how are you" type text

[–]TFWnoLTR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I needed this so badly, OP. Just want to say thanks!

[–]cmVkZGl0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vagina play toy

Great way to refer to another human being.

[–]younngtrouble 1 point2 points  (5 children)

SERIOUS inquiry which I think is somewhat interesting.

And NO; the scenario I'm about to relay to you is not me thinking, "Oh man, I hope I didn't mess up with her!" This is me just seeking insight as to what occurred:

I was at a bar with a friend, and these two girls came up to talk to us. I am a black man, let's same my name is Courtney (lol, sorry to the Courtney's out there).

I introduced myself to one of the ladies very politely, and for some reason she responded with,

"That name is white as fuck." Not in a joking manner, but in a very snide and rude manner.

This girl was a white girl.

Dumbfounded, I calmly but in a slightly confused manner responded with:

"You're white as fuck...?"

I WAS in someway defensive, offended even, I'll admit that. And I DID clearly show that the remark had an effect on me, which is a red pill violation. Probably demonstrating insecurity of my name AND identity...

But, she walked up to us, total strangers, and began to insult us, bringing race into the conversation. I was neither in a relationship with her, nor did I even have time to game her before she said this. We were complete strangers to one another.

My question is where do you draw the line between being disrespected and checking her, versus being defensive of what she says?

Was this defensiveness, or was this response a very powerful deflection to a tasteless remark?

Does race even play a role? Thanks guys.

(p.s. I don't know if this helps, but I was the only black friend. She didn't walk up to two black people and start gunning lmao-----Interestingly, she gave my white friend a kiss on the cheek, but came at my blackness. And Im not overthinking this, I just wanted y'all to know all the deets!)

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Sounds like a dumb racist who wants black dick on the low so she kisses your friend to incite jealousy from you, in the hopes that you just take her

[–]younngtrouble 0 points1 point  (3 children)

hmmm, interesting. That is a possibility. However, I'm less concerned with her desires and more concerned with my question (which I guess got sort of lost in this paragraph):

Where do you draw the line between being disrespected by a woman and responding accordingly, to a response being considered "defensive"?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I see.

Go into my post and look at the "defensive" responses.

Then compare those to the "AAAAA" and "Deflect" responses.

That's the difference

[–]younngtrouble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're totally right, my confusion was rooted in the fact that I misread your examples.

I am now certain that my response was an intelligent deflection. Thanks boss.

[–]FrankCostanza111 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"I actually am white, this is just a really dark tan."

"Man, thank you! I have been trying so hard to fit into white society. I sincerely appreciate that."

[–]pragmatic_nihilist 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I DEER’d so hard only a couple of years ago. Glad to see, before reading this post, I have switched my formula, mindset, and being over to DARE. it’s always good to see the things you know or need to know put into organized words. great post dude

[–]magx01 -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

Thanks for letting us know. We were all wondering.

[–]pragmatic_nihilist -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

bitch i’m your lord and savior

[–]magx01 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You're on reddit. You nor I are saving shit.

[–]NotYourTypicalNurse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

High quality post, side bar material IMO. Thank you for going out of your way to construct this.

[–]BraindeadIQ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Very great write up! Loved it.

But can someone EL5 what this means? I’m not understanding this 100%..do they not look to us (men) for explanations and reasons because they already expect it from us as leaders or what?

Women do NOT look to you for explainations - like they are your leader.

Women do NOT look to you for reasoning - like they are your partner.

Women DO look to you for feelings, guidance, and leadership - like they are your follower.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a leader, your followers trust you to give direction, and give their well being to you.

You don't explain yourself to your subordinates.

[–]fadadapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love this, but some of the Deflect responses you listed seem a little harsh. If they are said in the wrong way, they seem like they can cause a girl to feel unappreciated and could ruin an otherwise happy relationship.

[–]Zech4riah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The last 3 horsemen are pretty much the same (explain, excuse and rationalize).

[–]Vithonil 0 points1 point  (4 children)

How do you "Exit" without looking like a whiney little bitch? I've always been asking myself that.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Just leave. If something's being annoying it isnt worth your time.

[–]Vithonil 0 points1 point  (2 children)

But doesn't that make it look like she "broke" your frame? I always get ridiculed from for example my younger brother when he annoys me and I simply do something else. I don't care about that, of course, but to me it's always seemed to be a sign of weakness when you just leave. Maybe I'm just perceiving it wrong.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No it's the exact opposite. Frame is "you're not worth my time anymore."

Frame = reality.

You stay and argue? Your frame = "i like drama and arguing."

[–]Vithonil 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the clarification. Love your YouTube channel btw

[–]smyger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

GOLDEN STUFF!!! Damn it man.

[–]ajbrooks192 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post has actually been on my mind a lot. My question is, when is the appropriate time for which response, mainly in regards to D and A? For example, on the eric andre show, Amber heard says to him "you need a wash bro" to which he responds "I'll take a bath in front of you, I'll take a dump in front of you, that's how comfortable i am"

To me this is a classic A response, but in my mind you could just as easily replace it with a D ressponse because he is in a shit test. Is it just a play it by case thing? Or are they truly interchangeable?

[–]Zsaqwes8 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If somebody treats you like shit why should you agree and amplify. You dont have to tolerate shitty behavior, let alone play their game. Or are you speaking exclusively about the hookup scene with people you've never met

Edit: and you literally say to clown level proportions, acting like a clown is not going to attract women

[–]theycallmedumdum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not necessarily being a clown. But I think he explained it pretty well. You take what they say and kinda spin it into something absurd. It kinda gets your point across that what they're saying is absurd. Covertly.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Lol you're such a short guy?"

"Haha yeah lemme just grab my stilts so I can fuck you in your mouth"

"Oh my god what did you just say to me?!"

"What, you can't hear me from all the way up there?"

just take what they say and roll with it, multiply what they say

[–]boy_named_su 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What to do when someone offers you unsolicited advice? Or complains about your taste in music?

[–]BlackCraneStoic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After rereading this excellent post another takeaway is that Men are the adults in the relationship to the women's inner child. If a man is underdeveloped from a social/emotion/mental/or even physical standpoint in some cases she'll treat him like the kid she never wanted because that's what the guy essentially made himself out to be.

So in short relationships always follow a subtle dynamic Man/girl or boy/Woman. Make sure you're dynamic is the first one or you'll get abused like a neglected orphan. Avoid being a Harry Potter in relationships and be a Typer Durden.

[–]OkStretch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Gonna try this. Gotta whip the ol bitch into shape.

[–]scorpionkg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your service!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy shit this is the funniest thing I have ever read.

[–]tinyredline 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just read this and felt how something shock in my brain, amazing words. Thank you.

[–]dont_member_password 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What happened to the post? Removed by poster or others?

[–]quentinthequibbler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great post. Just disagree with the child part. That’s just gross.

[–]condorama -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I sympathize strongly with TRP shit generally, but women aren’t just sexualized children. This is a lame post.

[–]CaptDeadlift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had fun reading this compared to the usual stuff on the sub. I agree with a lot of things that you said especially A&A and Exiting.

[–]kyzen142 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have this thing called the " because I said so " principal. It is a great way to practise holding ur frame. It is lime you owe no one an explanation why you said something.

[–]RedGunnera -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Awesome post, very eye opening dissemination of the errors I have made previously in arguing with childr- ... I mean women. Thank you

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’ve always been DARE without noticing it, but the examplse you give are television worthy. That’s some insane bravado.