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Field ReportDeleted Instagram; Banged Instagram Model (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime

I've seen a lot of posts and questions regarding Social Media on here recently, so I thought I'd give a little insight into my Social Media cleanse and the corresponding results it's had on my life.

I had a fairly decent following (6k) but deleted my account for the following reasons:

I was pissing away time on it. Up to an hour a day, just looking at other peoples lives. Mostly women(I couldn't give a shit about updates on other mens' lives). I'd be scrolling through my feed, looking at women I found attractive, but wasn't fucking, basically orbiting. I never liked or commented on their posts, as they had enough of that going on with half of India's population commenting 'Nice bobs and Vagine" or a horde of 12 yr old's commenting "Suck my dick baby". It became clear to me that this is generally the standard of man that lurks around, liking pictures, validating, showering them with attention when these women have nothing to offer besides their tits and ass. Yet they sit on their Social media throne getting ego muff dives. I was no longer going to be a part of this.

Unless you're a social media Chad, a wealthy man, showing a top 1% lifestyle, and a big following, you're basically the virtual equivalent of an orbiter. No woman ever logged on Instagram and saw Billy, with 12 posts and 152 followers, liking pic number 45 and a timid "Hey" in the DM's and thought wow, this guy seems like a real prospect.

I have gotten some pussy off Instagram before, but weighing up the time investment, and my general disdain with Social Media in general i deleted it.

Fast Forward two weeks and I'm out at a Beach Bar celebrating a friends Birthday. It's Late, things are dying down and i spot an absolute beaut. Tall, Petite, Perky Ass, Fake tits(but well done). A real looker. My mate tells me she's a girl he's seen on Instagram, whips out his phone and shows me. She looks even better in the pictures. Has a 110k strong following.

We were at a table with bottles, this generally seems to attract women like flies to shit, especially high status women. They want high status men, they're not as concerned about your looks as lower HB women. I'm the best looking of our group, so I stood out, and we're making eyes. I hop up and go over and introduce myself, I'm chatty and cheeky in general and make some light conversation. I start turning the conversation more sexual, trying to draw her in. She's fairly receptive to my advances. Music stops bar closes, i'm not quite at the point yet where I feel she'd come home, my phone was dead, so I told her to take my number, I don't think she's too used to this but seemed to like the cockiness that i would ask a "girl of her calibre" to do that. She took it and she went back to her friends, i went back to mine, we all went home. Later that night i recieve a smiley face, so i know she's fairly keen.

I didn't respond that night, i waited until after work the next day. To which she replies "I thought you forgot about me". We text a bit back and forth, she quickly asks what's my Instagram, I said i don't have it, she asks Facebook? nope not that either. I set up a date for later in the week, (told her I'm only available then). She agreed.

We meet up and the chat is flirty, she asks why I don't have Social Media, I told her my life is interesting enough i don't need updates on others. She attempts at some point during the night to show me her Social Media, i decline, i said, "lets stick to the real world for tonight". I think at this point she was realizing that she wasn't going to gain any favor from me through her Social Media following.

The realm where she was queen and men bent at the knee for her didn't even feature in my life. She was no more to me than any other women i could be on a date with. She was going to have to gain my attention in other ways. Coupled with this she told me she couldn't do her usual social media vetting of me(because obviously i don't have it). This added to the Mystery i had going for me. She didn't know who I was, Who my friends were, What i did for a living, or how i spent my time. Even on the date i was very vague about everything, joking and deflecting when she asked questions.

We were a bottle of wine down and the sexual tension was clear. She was wanting to order a cocktail, and i told her to skip it, We'll rather make them back at my place, I said "I've got a better view anyway"

The rest is History.

Lessons:

  • Unless you're showing a great lifestyle, you're just another lurker, follower
  • You're wasting valuable time on Social Media that could be used far more constructively
  • With HB8-10 woman you can be as jacked, good looking as you want, they're looking for status
  • Mystery, maintain it at all costs, her hamster will fill in the blanks
  • Stand out, she had built up a huge following on Social Media, but with me this meant nothing, it immediately leveled the playing fields and she had to win over my favor in other ways
  • Take time texting her, don't be too available, a woman of this caliber is simply not used to it

[–][deleted] 241 points242 points  (9 children)

my favorite line "she looked even better in the pictures" lol. they do seem to lose their luster without their insta filters.

[–]dinnerwithfunions 100 points101 points  (6 children)

The average chick these days could be a professional hollywood/model photographer with all the camera tricks they pull.

[–]RedPlanetMan 35 points36 points  (2 children)

There is the one thing I learned and remembered from MySpace in the early 2000s: beware the profiles with lots of pictures with nonsense angles (I.e, pic from the sides or from above or from below, etc, that don't really give you a clear view). If there are no clear pics, good chance something is up.

Also, duckface.

[–]dinnerwithfunions 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Yup good rule of thumb too is if there are no bikini o equally revealing pics she’s heavier than she looks

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

and yet they still decide to whore themselves to minors on the internet until they are forced to work at Fred Meyers instead of using that valuable skill to get themselves a stable career...

[–]WillSalt 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Even without a single edit to a picture it's easier to look good. Take 1000 pictures and keep the one that looks best.

[–]Treanwreck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well ya fat girls can be non fat girls on anti-social media

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 378 points379 points  (17 children)

Social media for women is the equivalent of online resumes and job applications— a centralized location to judge male status in the palm of her hand. This is why they insist on a username. Most men, even attractive ones, get lost in the virtual pile of noise. You’re just another pornhub video on the video gallery list except they’re real life men. With just a couple clicks and a few messages, she can have dick delivered to her like a pizza in 30 minutes or less.

IG, facebook, and snapchat are an overflooding sewer of betadom. Truly horrendous. Men with no confidence to talk to them in person showering them with validation and virtual support behind their screens jerking with the other hand in hopes their oneitis will acknowledge their existence with a winky face. Some even send them gifts, order them pizza, or pay for their channel just to watch them play video games. You cant keep eye contact with her in person, thats your inner loser staring right back at you. You brag about being facebook friends with her you sad, sad, desperate man. You make me sick.

Social media is a game, not some care free do whatever. If you deny this you dont get it. Never add women or like/comment on their pictures if you havent spoken to them in person. Like pics that you’re in together. Dont read any of her stories, they’re all just attention whoring.

[–]neet_goblin 125 points126 points  (9 children)

I actually use Instagram to follow my male friends because I couldn’t care less content posted by thots but I like to see what the boys are up to

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (7 children)

me too. i really don't care about women at all i just want to see all my men

[–]Zenith8 179 points180 points  (4 children)

This sounds incredibly gay

[–]pmmedenver 33 points34 points  (0 children)

What do you mean he clearly likes birds

(In men's pants)

[–]ArdyAy_DC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's a comment on this sub, so there was at least a 50% chance of it sounding that way.

[–]gains_o_clock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

this and sports for me, I don't like reading news about it I'd rather get updates from there

[–]Luckyluke23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

social media is a tool for business thats it

[–]baldginger69 4 points5 points  (4 children)

nice post.

I've been traveling around South America for the last few months and have been slaying off of tinder, Latin American cupid, and day game. my buddy suggested creating an instagram as it would give me an opportunity to meet the true dime pieces who probably aren't on online dating sites and who'm I probably wouldn't run into at a grocery store or something. After about two weeks of trying to slide into girls' DMs and being left on read most of the time I think it's time to delete the instagram. I understand that just cold messaging girls on insta is not how to optimally use the app, but starting an instagram from scratch and trying to show high value by having a ton of followers is not as easy at it sounds. I'm 29 and if I would have kept the instagram I created years ago I'm sure I would give off a lot more value, but at this point I'm not sure starting a new one is worth the cost/benefit.

After about two weeks of having the new Instagram I have a 76-39 follower to following ratio and about 20 photos, a couple of which have about 50 likes through using hashtags. The hashtags seem to help with getting a lot of likes, but not a lot of followers (and followers are what display high value/status). Again, unless your some fitness trainer or something it seems like starting an instagram from scratch is a bit too much work for the reward.

I will probably delete it today and just go back to online dating/day game and trolling Latinas via WhatsApp Status updates.

Unless of course, someone has a quick and easy way to obtain followers and not look like such a scrub with my 76.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 3 points4 points  (3 children)

You’re doing it wrong. Take intimate selfies with women and cool photos with friends first before you make an instagram, then you start with the ball already rolling. Your first week should be a good selfie of the face. Then a few days later, one with friends, then one with a girl (this gradual progression prevents you from being percieved as a player show off). Everything should be women and cool photos with mixed group of friends from then on

Every time you meet a new girl, swap IGs, demand you guys follow eachother right there in person. Theyll ask why you only have a few photos, just say it’s new. Work from there. No woman thinks you’re low value with a few photos with attractive women touching you even if you have a low follower count.

Every new girl you add requires another couple photos to start digging you (past ones alone get your foot in the door, new ones generate los tingles). After she sees about two or three, you can DM her with confidence she’ll respond. No need for some huge following.

[–]baldginger69 2 points3 points  (2 children)

thats solid advice. I have a good amount of pics with chicks but they all look like boyfriend/girlfriend pics. most of them are selfies with girls I've banged and/or been on dates with. I have not posted any of them to my IG. probably because it would be awkward if one of these girls found my IG and was like wtf why is there a pic of me on his IG. I guess your approach would work better if I just uploaded pics with girls in real time to my insta. also, I am not much of the "take a picture of me" guy, hence why social media feels like "work" to me.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 5 points6 points  (1 child)

You should like taking pics with women, its a great excuse to put your hands on them and get their number to send it to them. It creates a social vibe. She’s gonna automatically like it on your feed because she’s in it.

Doesnt matter if they look like bf/gf pics (Those are my most liked pictures). The more intimate she looks with you the better, especially if it looks like you’re ‘just having fun’. As long as they’re not too old, past pics are fine.

[–]baldginger69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thanks warlock, your advice worked like a charm. they were filming a music video at this sick air b n b I'm staying at in Colombia right now. I saw two chicks taking a selfie, walked over, put my arms around them and joined in their photo session. immediately after I asked the hotter one, can you send me those pics? she whipped out her phone, took my number, sent the pics, I posted one to my instagram story which she saw and probably loved, I followed up with her the next day and scheduled a date. hopefully, all goes well and I can close. but either way, thanks again.

[–]talexanderc 105 points106 points  (1 child)

I too recently deleted my Instagram. It's just validation for women and I won't be part of the cuckoldry

[–]Matacks607 1 points1 points [recovered]

I heard Instagram models let you poop on them if you're an Arab man. Maybe if you put on a turban you could poop on her.

[–]meektakeL 14 points15 points  (1 child)

only if the price is right

[–]EuropeanAmerican420 20 points21 points  (3 children)

Maybe a prince but not any random arab

[–]meaningintragedy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Check tagthesponsorette.com.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? Have I missed something?

[–]redpilltaste 20 points21 points  (0 children)

? You got laid because you were good looking and didnt screw up when she was sizing you up for sex. Don't listen to this guys reasoning.

[–]BazooTheSoulEater 1 points1 points [recovered]

What do you think would have happened had you still had Insta and gave it to her, with your "sub-par" follower count and all.

I think we all know the answer here. Unless you are incredibly high value and maintain your social media like a second job, it is more detrimental than helpful.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I've closed a couple models in the past, but this one had the biggest following, the others were more supplementing their model careers, whereas this one lived off her insta, it was her life, so the fact that i didn't give a shit about it certainly played into my hands

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 17 points18 points  (12 children)

In my experience, it's only helped.

I've banged 2 models, one IG model and one runway/music video model.

Both saw my IG had 4k followers, combined with my growing youtube channel, now at 10k. It got them interested.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (11 children)

Do you share your YouTube channel to women?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 10 points11 points  (10 children)

if they ask about it, yeah i'll show them.

Always with a tease tho, "Yeah sure here... I bet Im more popular than you."

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (9 children)

What generally is their reaction when they look at the content? Or maybe they just look at the subscriber count and dont delve further into it?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They seem to like it. One FWB watches all my videos

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I have 2 Youtube channels with 20k subs each but they stopped making me money when they started squeezing ad revenues. Not worth my time now. One made me almost 3k a month back in 2011.

[–]WhiteGhosts 1 point2 points  (4 children)

what kind of vids were you making

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Don't wanna dox myself. They were investment channels.

[–]WhiteGhosts 2 points3 points  (2 children)

i wasn't asking about the name of your channel, though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I know. They were the largest in both their areas which would dox me.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What the hell?? Patreon, and exclusive products and lessons, there's akot u cold have done.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was not worth my time. Creating the content took hours and I was making thousands a day trading crypto.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 137 points138 points  (31 children)

she asks why I don't have Social Media, I told her my life is interesting enough i don't need updates on others. She attempts at some point during the night to show me her Social Media, i decline, i said, "lets stick to the real world for tonight".

Riggity REKT damn bro you got her good.

she told me she couldn't do her usual social media vetting of me. This added to the Mystery i had going for me. She didn't know who I was, Who my friends were, What i did for a living, or how i spent my time.

Wow. She snitched on herself, but girls do exactly that.

The only thing I disagree with you on, is that you should delete your SM. I'd rather take pictures of a top-tier life and videos of a top-tier life. I'd rather show the status, like that lesson of yours says with HB8+'s. I'd rather stand out by having high number count etc.

Still, valuable lessons. Hot women care more about status/social proof than looks. The rest of the lessons were good as well.

Solid post.

[–][deleted] 77 points78 points  (20 children)

Still, valuable lessons. Hot women care more about status/social proof than looks.

Disagree. Lots of women want a high status guy for relationships. So they can show them off to their friends, on social media, etc. But not for actual sex (which let's be honest. That's what we really want).

A good-looking, in shape guy (even with low status) can clean up in 2018. Look around. We're surrounded by overweight, out of shape nerds. Girls want to get rocked in bed. You think some youtube or instagram "star" who bench presses 90 pounds can do that for her?

Status is the ultimate BB (other than money, obviously) if you don't have anything else to go along with it. Girls will stick around for the attention/fame/money, but she would much rather be fucking the ripped guy at the gym who isn't even on social media. And chances are she is. My buddy is a personal trainer at a gym. 30, in ridiculously good shape, but he's a trainer. He doesn't make a lot of money. The amount of pussy and attention he gets is crazy. These married woman are constantly flirting with him throughout their sessions and the guy cleans up. Being in shape matters so much.

Plus, there's the "mysterious" aspect of a guy who isn't plugged-in that women love too.

Obviously good looks and high status is the ultimate winner, but looks>status imo, and it isn't even close.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 43 points44 points  (17 children)

You're right, it's a different kind of fucking, a high status guy vs. a ripped sexy guy.

But, I guarantee the famous rock stars/rap artists of today will have no trouble pulling a girl away from some ripped, jacked nobody.

In the end, it's still sex you're getting.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 56 points57 points  (6 children)

Hot women care more about status/social proof than looks

You're right, it's a different kind of fucking, a high status guy vs. a ripped sexy guy.

Dude, how can you make those perfect videos and still be so off the mark in terms of theory?

  1. AF;BB. Women have the dual need for alphas AND for betas. She needs the sexually attractive guy, and the dependable provider.

  2. Many things factor in a man's SMV. Looks, Game, Status. It's contextual. Girl A at time T and in context C can get the alpha tingles from a hot pool boy without game or status. Girl B at time U and in context D can get the alpha tingles from a rock band leader with an ugly-ass face and no game. So no, hot women DON'T care "more about status/social proof than looks". They both count. It's contextual. It depends on the girl, on her time of the month, on her relationship status at the moment, on the local hierarchy she finds herself in, etc.

  3. What makes a beta is not so much money or status, but most importantly his capability and willingness to give her his resources (time, attention, money, support, etc.). Without attraction, she will lure him into providing by giving him sex she may not be really wanting to have. So yes, there are two "different kind of fucking", but no it's not between "high status guy" vs a ripped sexy guy", as she might see high status as alpha as you say. There's different kind of fucking between a guy she sees as alpha, and a guy she sees as beta.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I literally agree with everything that you just said. It almost feels like I'M the one who typed that.

In fact, I'm pretty sure we had this exact conversation in the past.

In my experience, HB 8 9 10's prefer status > looks.

[–]1swaglordobama 64 points65 points  (2 children)

This is because low value girls focus on a guys looks as a form of validation from society (she wants people to think she is able to attract a hot guy because she has always been the average / ugly girl). Very attractive women aren't dating men for social validation; they get endless amounts of validation already from social media and tinder. Most hot girls have thousands of likes on tinder and get hundreds of DMs from desperate chodes calling them beautiful.

Try to imagine the reality of a girl like that: complete abundance. 99.9% of men on the planet want to have sex with you. Sex is not even something you ever worry about. Your problem isn't getting laid, its finding people who don't just want to get your validation and leech value off of you. You date guys who make you feel the most comfortable and at ease. You literally just want a normal guy who isn't weird and possessive and value leeching.

If you had millions of girls begging to fuck you 24/7 what would you screen for in a girlfriend or potential mate? How would your attitude be different? Think about it from the role of the selector. Looks don't matter as much as guys on here think they do. They wouldn't to you if you were in complete abundance, too, because one 10 out of thousands who want your dick and approval ain't shit. You can always fuck a 10 if you want to, so it loses its appeal. It's only chumps who have something to prove who brag publicly about the girls they fuck, like the guy who first gets a taste of making above average money thinks he's hot shit. True status doesn't need to flex. It is known. If you were in abundance you'd value personality over just looks alone, as long as the girl is relatively attractive. You'd screen a girl to see if she is worthy of your seed. You'd give them shit just to see if they could prove themselves.

Really, any dude can crush it, but only if he gives himself permission to be that guy. For most guys abundance is so far out of their reality that they can't even grasp it. True abundance makes you not give the slightest fuck about losing the girl or getting her approval. Hell, you don't even care if it doesn't work out with any specific girl because you have too many options.

[–]FarfromaHero40 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Loved. "True status doesn't need to flex. It is known."

[–]Frenetic_Zetetic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The way you broke this down, brother, completely defanged a lot of the BS usually toted here. This is reasoned as fuck. 10/10 comment.

True status doesn't need to flex. It is known

Spot on. Thank you for sharing this comment with us.

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rollo wrote about it, validation vs transactional sex.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (9 children)

Yeah, but let's be realistic. For every 1 famous rock star/rap artist, there are 50,000 bums. If you're a believer in hypergamy, then there will ALWAYS be someone who can get a girl over you. There's no reason in worrying about it. Being ripped gives you a rock star aura IMO. You aren't famous, but you naturally attract women by just walking into a room.

Again though, the rock star is high status so she might prefer a relationship with him (if that's what she's looking for), but women can't fight their DNA. An athletic, ripped guy who can rock her world in the bedroom, has the upperhand on EVERYONE. I 100% believe this.

She might leave you for a BB provider when she's ready to settle down, but she's still going to be thinking about you in bed. And by that time you've moved on to a fresh crop of early 20's women. And if you want to fuck women in their 30's/40's (some guys like that), you're literally shooting fish in a barrel. Those women have spent the past 10+ years of their lives having awful sex with their 40% bodyfat ex-husbands. You're going to be a rockstar to them.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Rockstar groupies dont try to get into relationships with them, they are happy for the ride (and to ride him) as a non-committed groupie.

Same with drug dealers - they pussy through their status.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I was referring to high status men in general. Not specifically rock stars, drug dealers, etc. I probably should've made that more clear.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You're confusing status with wealth.

Status as in "having a commonly-agreed and verifiable higher value in the current social context" is a verified pussy moistener. Fame is the extreme version of status. Famous actors, pop stars and national athletes get all the pussy they want, even if their bodyguard is taller and more ripped than them. But you don't even have to go that extreme. Go to a live music venue where some local band is playing and see girls eyeing the lead singer. Go to a house party and see girls eyeing the guy who's hosting it and knows everyone and is responsible for everyone having fun. Go watch a local ball game and watch the girls eyeing the best player of the wining team.

On TRP, status is not being a surgeon or an architect. It's your rank in the local dominance hierarchy as JBP would put it.

Yes looks do moisten panties too. But don't go think that's the ONLY thing, just because you mistake "Status" as it's understood on the manosphere for how it's understood in the mainstream as "having a job that pays well".

[–]domoli 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I see this nuanced debate from time to time on here and it’s one of the most intriguing. Usually, the people who say ‘The ripped good looking guy who will rock their world in bed trumps the high status guy, 100%’ have not observed powerful high status men have their way with women in real life. It’s a bit of a different environment than a gym. These high status men have a waiting list of women vying for sex with them, for free, NSA. At the parties these men attend, there are also top-tier models wondering around, talking with women. They do well with women, very well indeed. But the high status monster plays a different game, and comes out on top (or in her mouth).

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (4 children)

I'm sure high status guys are pulling lots of pussy. I'm just speaking from personal experience.

When I approach a girl in my daily life, I don't have Leonardo DiCaprio standing next to me to compete with. I have a dude with social anxiety, another guy who'd rather be playing fortnight, 1 more who is glued to his phone, and maybe a guy who has a GF and is loyal to her. TRP mindset isn't a widespread thing. Most guys act like nervous 13 year olds, not only around women, but in life. Everything matters to a certain extent. Looks, status, game, money, etc. But if you can walk into a room looking like some ripped model from this girls instagram feed, you really don't think that separates you more than a guy who drives an expensive car?

A friend of a friend of mine makes really great money but is awful with women. He's fat, nervous, and lacks confidence. Looks give you an immediate in, but like everything else, it's what you do with it that matters.

The biggest thing to me is that getting into really good shape is a million times easier than becoming rich/successful. It's something every single guy on this board should be. Having a good career should be a bonus.

These high status men have a waiting list of women vying for sex with them, for free, NSA.

You don't honestly believe that, do you? Those girls are looking to either get knocked up, or for 1 of those guys to fall in love with them. There's no such thing as NSA sex. Women don't do anything for free. It's the same way they use a good-looking guy as a fuck buddy. It strokes their egos.

[–]tranquil_af 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wanted to give you gold but I'm broke.

[–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I think both of you make excellent points but I'm going to side with the guy you're responding too.

When I approach a girl in my daily life, I don't have Leonardo DiCaprio standing next to me to compete with. I have a dude with social anxiety, another guy who'd rather be playing fortnight, 1 more who is glued to his phone, and maybe a guy who has a GF and is loyal to her.

Yea and when the guy with high status or even good status approach he has the same guys around him that you described as well. As long as a guy has status and is not autistic around women he will pull much better than a guy who works out at a gym.

Having looks is a bonus. But women care more about status.

A friend of a friend of mine makes really great money but is awful with women. He's fat, nervous, and lacks confidence. Looks give you an immediate in, but like everything else, it's what you do with it that matters.

Yea see what you're doing here is using an extreme example. The better example is if you're friend was average in looks. Meaning he isn't fat nor too skinny, but he also doesn't workout either. And he can talk to women. He doesn't have the best game, just enough to the point that he isn't socially enept around women. With his great money, he would be pulling in lots of tale. Like you said looks get you an immediate in, but status and money is what will help keep women around in the long run.

The biggest thing to me is that getting into really good shape is a million times easier than becoming rich/successful. It's something every single guy on this board should be. Having a good career should be a bonus.

Agree to extent. You don't even have to be in the best shape to pull women. All you have to do is not be a fat fuck. Also you don't even have to be rich. If you're an average guy in looks with enough money to the point you're not swimming in debt and living in a shitty apartment, you will do well with women. I'm saying this as a guy who played college football and still works out more then majority of guys in the USA. Having a good body and all that helps, but you do not need to be in crazy shape to pull women. The guys with money and status will attract more because those are the bigger traits that women look for in men especially as they get older.

You don't honestly believe that, do you? Those girls are looking to either get knocked up, or for 1 of those guys to fall in love with them. There's no such thing as NSA sex. Women don't do anything for free. It's the same way they use a good-looking guy as a fuck buddy. It strokes their egos.

Agree here. I love these debates. Now for anyone else reading do not take either side too literal. Meaning don't think you need just looks to get you laid. And don't think you need a good career to get you laid. You obviously need a healthy balance of the three (status, money, looks).

What I'm saying is that status or money beats looks if we had to pick between the options.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What I'm saying is that status or money beats looks if we had to pick between the options.

Personally, I would keep my looks if I could only pick 1, but hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Women can't see my status when I'm standing in line at the grocery store. They can see my 8% BF though. I used to be in shape but nothing crazy. It's a day and night difference in the way women eye me now. It's easier to tell the ones who are interested, and I get approached/opened on as well which makes daygaming 1000x easier.

I do agree that life is about balance though. But to me, good looks + being great in bed has a proven track record of women eating out of my hand. As I'm sure some high status guys have a history of doing the same with women. I think at the end of the day, as long as you have a few good qualities, you really shouldn't have problems.

[–]ebaymasochist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are so many other factors.. The guy who makes big money and works 70 hours a week and is unhealthy from the stress and can't have any fun, thinks the world owes him something for having money, thinks he can buy every woman, etc. Is just going to be miserable and repel a lot of women. The woman who has been around money her whole life and hated every guy her upper crust social circle ever tried to pair her with, is going to care less about status and want something she hasn't had before, like the ripped surfer/artist guy who lived in a station wagon until 2 months ago. Why? Passion. Men need to have passion in their lives. You can see if someone is passionate or just being pulled around randomly through life, very quickly. It's right up there with confidence in importance.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If you really think women put looks higher than status you're a fool. I'm sure you're a good guy but let's be honest, women don't crave hot bodies the way we do. If you've got presence and status, looks are just a bonus and nothing else. Of course you gotta be presentable but you don,t need to be "jacked". Dress well, don't have a gut and that should suffice.

[–]ebaymasochist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being in really great shape is more than just looks, it shows your entire lifestyle. Being ripped takes discipline, commitment, forward thinking, effort, mental and physical strength. Those are all traits men should possess. And besides that.. Everyone wants to be ripped. But most people can't do it. But YOU can. You did. That sets you apart

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thanks man, and yeah it can certainly work for you, Im more of the opinion that If you're not presenting your life as high status, It's more detrimental than beneficial.

Also the sort of investment it takes to show off a lifestyle like that(if you are not genuinely living it) is also not worth it IMO.

I'd rather focus on my real world persona, and maintain Mystery in that case, personally Mystery tends to get the hamster into overdrive.

[–]TRP_TEX 1 points1 points [recovered]

With the top-tier life, I've purged my instagram that any photo from the last four years is only high quality and fun. Mountain climbing, surfing, campfire at the beach, etc.

I'm wondering though, my followers have gone down about fifteen hundred or so since I stopped being so active a few years back.

Would it be better for SMV if I purchased followers and likes? So, say just like 1,000 likes on my last few pictures and purchasing more followers to show that I have more activity? Purely for a SMV perspective?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (7 children)

lol. yeah, do it. if you can get the ratios right no one can tell the difference. look up machiavellian body builder from / misc on the BB forums who was banging sluts by using fake facebook accounts as preselection

[–]TRP_TEX 1 points1 points [recovered]

That's brilliant. I'm wondering how you could do that on ig though, since people can see member count.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Make a new account or convert your account - make yourself into some kind of minor celebrity. You need a reason to have a high follow count.

When I was cheating, my excuse was art. Now, I actually have a reason for high follows - youtube channel.

Buy followrs, buy likes on your pictures, then buy comments.

Make fake female accounts have them comment on your shit, oogling you. Fawning over you.

Boom. done.

As long as you dont have 10k follows and 15 likes per picture, you'll be ok

[–]l00000000 1 points1 points [recovered]

How much would all this cost typically?

if you can get the ratios right no one can tell the difference.

By ratios do you mean followers to likes ratio?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How much would all this cost typically?

Has cost me between 25-35$ over 1 year.

By ratios do you mean followers to likes ratio?

Yeah, and comments

[–]l00000000 1 points1 points [recovered]

Cool thanks.

Is it important to be in the pictures you post? I take some pictures when I'm out but I never do the reverse camera selfie thing because I think they look kind of silly. Could you give an example breakdown of what kinds of pictures you post?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends what kind of account you are creating.

[–]Schhwing 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Well played sir (here’s your ego boost for today). Her frame scuttled against the rocks of yours and she was forced into you leading. The emperess has no clothes.

Not having social media now acts as a kind of immediate polarity. Women know subconsciously that it is a women’s validation game, so a man who denies that immediately is different/ has mystery.

[–]red_matrix 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Social media is voluntary caste system. Opt out boys.

[–]and_another_dude 88 points89 points  (5 children)

You banged a shallow slut and are using her supposed social media status to make yourself sound cooler.. while posting on different social media. Good job?

[–]monadyne 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This is a "social media" site in the same way that a university classroom is a tiki bar. In other words... not at all. People come here to learn and to share and to teach. The OP isn't here virtue signaling: he's sharing his experience so others can benefit.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure why that would make me cooler, she's just another pussy to me, but seems like you've put her on a pedestal. The Social media dynamic was the point of the post. You seemed to miss that.

[–]7mile_ 11 points12 points  (1 child)

  • With HB8-10 woman you can be as jacked, good looking as you want, they're looking for status

OP you contradicted yourself when you said the 8+ are just looking for status.. and yet you said you were the best looking guy in the group and caught her attention.

So it isn't just the status that worked here.. It was a combination of the 3 variables Looks, Status (in your case perceived status), and Game. You used all 3 of them and downplayed the importance of 2.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Probably should have clarified this, all the guys i was with had Status, looks was a differentiating factor amongst us. But if it wasn't for me she would have picked one of my not so good looking friends over the 10/10 looks college student on the dancefloor.

[–]1swaglordobama 21 points22 points  (16 children)

You're missing the point of social media. It's not to game strangers, but to create a system that works passively once a girl is in your funnel. This is how you optimize IG:

  1. Cold approach, instagram close (she should be following you so she sees your stories and you come up on her feed).
  2. Post stories, pictures and videos that social proof you subtly. This means can be a short video of you hanging out with a cute chick, you taking a photo of some model, travel, etc. (Get a dslr camera for high quality photos, same rule goes for tinder).
  3. Post stories often. They don't have to be interesting, just some shit going on in your day.
  4. Don't waste time browsing that shit. Your role is to give value to bored chicks on their phone who vaguely know you, not waste your time.
  5. Create the "crush effect," allowing the girl to stalk you and get a glimpse into your life, see the cool shit you are up to, etc.

Now you can message those chicks some value and watch them crack open. Often they suggest hanging out together. The point of social media is to complement cold approach, not to replace it. I don't have all day to keep in touch with the hoes in my phone. I want my social media to social proof the shit out of me and let the girl see my lifestyle and the abundance of bitches in it.

Again, don't waste time on insta looking at other people. Just make quick stories with polls, questions, etc as you go about your day

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

If it's working for you great. And it certainly can. The main point I'm driving is don't be a Social Media orbiter. Liking, commenting, in the hopes that you'll get noticed.

Also, if you don't have a profile displaying a great lifestyle, with a decent following, which the majority of men don't, you're doing more damage than good. I personally believe an individual is better off focusing their time on building their real world persona.

Social Media CAN work in your favor, it's just where you want to place you time resources. In general though, I't benefits females far more than men(this is the fault of the orbiting men)

[–]1swaglordobama 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I fully agree. Don't waste your time commenting and liking shit from strangers. Instead figure out what hashtags the kinds of girls you like often browse and start using those when you post. You'll show up on their feed and they will be exposed to your awesomeness.

You really don't need THAT much status. You need to provide some level of entertainment. Natural attractiveness = the girl getting a crush on you over time, entertainment keeps her hooked and builds more comfort with her. You can have shitty approaches turn into dtf hoes because they see your social media and realize you're an awesome dude who is banging hoes and doing cool shit. You let the social proof do the bragging.

I don't even close a girl's number anymore. If I can't pull because of bad logistics, I go straight for IG, then get her other info as needed from IG. This is coming from someone with over a thousand numbers in his phone (approach more motherfucker); the number is overrated. Managing even 50 numbers is hard work. I'd much rather just let social media build passive attraction for me and let the girls react to my life than sit there thinking of things to talk about and waiting for responses.

Granted, if I want to reignite an old connection I will send a value ping of some cool shit I'm doing like working on a song or making new artwork. "Check out what I made !" Usually gets a response even if the girl hasn't talked to you for months, you can use that to start a new conversation (haha what cool shit have you been up to lately ?).

I think we agree on the same points. I just think social media can be a huge tool when used correctly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Do people even browse hashtags?

[–]1swaglordobama 0 points1 point  (1 child)

People follow hashtags, allowing them to see random posts and discover new people. Some hashtags are also suggested, like the town or city you are in.

At the end of the day, your instagram's purpose is to generate interest in the girls who you closed but had trouble scheduling a date with for whatever reason. It compliments cold approach as a way to keep old leads still interested.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The city is a smart one yeah. I 100% agree with your post. But i'm in my 20's so that may help. It also depends on what person uses what social media tactic. Some things may work for some, not all.

[–]7mile_ 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Social media has a weak effort to reward ratio. You're better off not having it and keeping that mystery vibe

[–]1swaglordobama 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The purpose is to keep the girl in your funnel. It's not a lot of effort, just take a video and add a caption about how you need coffee. Mystery vibe is overrated and tryhard and it can work against you. Social media makes the girl feel like she knows you, and if she likes you then she'll be down. No dumb James Bond shit.

[–]2CasaDeFranco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really? I make a killing off my social media which I have to do for my business anyway.

Speaking functions, attending conferences in new cities, milestones I've killed at work and illustrating my passions and adventures for family and friends.

My point is social media can be a low investment that many engage with already and is an effective complement if used accordingly.

[–]Greek-God-Brody 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This. Insta makes it easier to pull directly to your place a girl that you cold approached some day.

I very rarely waste time browsing other people's stories. I just post mines and let it do its thing. Briefly checking the chicks that are checking me out. That's about it.

[–]endertheend 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Now you can message those chicks some value and watch them crack open.

Can you explain this a bit more? What do you mean Some Value?

[–]1swaglordobama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Value text is a text about some random funny or interesting shit. Best if it's something that happened to you, but it can be a funny meme. The point of the value text is to ping her interest without asking for a response.

[–]Unboundaries 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Not going to knock a system if it works for you, but trying to "prove" yourself to women, in general, and especially on social media is pretty weak "game" in my honest opinion.

So you've got her instagram, you follow each other, and you waste your days trying to impress dumb instagram hoes by posting videos of yourself doing shit?! Lol. I mean come on what is the need for all that noise. Why complicate it to this extent where you're using 15yo girl tactics to try to appear intriguing?

[–]1swaglordobama 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where at all did I say to do dumb shit to impress hoes? It's about lifestyle and taking up space in her mind. It social proofs you without you having to do anything.

Social proof is not an attempt at "proving" yourself, it's an honest signal that displays social intelligence, preselection, abundance of resources, adventure, fun, etc.

Examples of social proof: her seeing you with other attractive women; her seeing random people say hi to you; her seeing the owner / staff of a venue socializing with you. The bar is not that high.

How can instagram social proof you? Pictures, videos and stories of you doing cool shit with other girls are pretty much the baseline. You can also have pics of luxury lifestyle, but that can lead to the wrong kind of women paying attention to you.

Put yourself in her shoes: you meet some girl, you check her facebook and she has like 8000 friends, pictures of her travelling to different countries, having fun, dressing sexy, hanging out with celebrities, etc. Does her value increase or decrease in your eyes? Was there any tryhard act on her end? It's just her social media profile, lol. You can stalk that shit and feel like you know her, which builds trust and a sense of connection.

All you have to do is snap an occasional picture while cool shit is going on around you.

[–]l00000000 1 points1 points [recovered]

I'm in my mid 30's, never got into Instagram but intrigued about it for game from these comments.

Is it important to be in the pictures you post? I take pictures when I'm out but usually of other stuff but I don't do the selfie thing much. If not couldn't you just post pictures from local even forums?

What if my hobbies aren't photogenic. For example BJJ. After a few photos pictures of guys rolling around a mat isn't going to be exciting. I'm active but none of my hobbies are like cycling where there is always new scenery and I don't travel for work, etc. Is IG worth it for me?

I've been considering a dslr but I can't imagine myself actually taking it to regular social events (unless I'm there to take pictures). How much do you carry it around for IG pictures?

[–]1swaglordobama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don't have to take selfies, but it is good to have some cool professional photos of yourself. When I meet a girl on a night out and close her IG I always say something like, "let's do a photo so we remember eachother tomorrow." Then I just snap one with my regular phone and send it to her. Later I can post it on my wall with a caption like "this girl was so fun/cool !" And tag her in it.

Playful, fun, and challenging frame let's you get away with a lot of crazy shit, even when you just met the girl. The other day I met this chick outside a convenience store, after talking for 2 minutes I ask her if she can dance, I start dancing, we're grinding butts, I turn around and say, "I love your butt, may I slap it?" She says sure and sticks her ass out (it was a nice ass). Other times I rub my nipples in a mock sexy kind of way, girls fucking love this shit. I take their hands (slowly) move them over my chest, and them her to give it a feel, then I say, "omg her boobs look nice, feel hers!" They start feeling eachother up in public and I usually join in. Same goes for getting girls to kiss each other, which is usually a prerequisite to pulling a threesome. Once they are horny as fuck for each other (and you), you mention you have a big bed and pull. Adding instagram to the mix makes these bitches go wild. You can literally use instagram as an excuse, like "kiss her for instagram !" "Do it for instagram !" "Wow it would make an awesome story!" You can even hand one of the girls your phone and be like "take a video of me doing ___ for instagram !"

Back to the main question: if your hobbies aren't photogenic it doesn't matter. You don't want like 5000 pictures on your wall of random shit, you want like 20-30 that communicate your lifestyle and make you look like a guy who girls like. One or two pictures from your hobbies is fine, you can add more to your daily stories which disappear after 24 hours. The stories are key because they show up on the home page as long as the girl follows you. People love to watch their friends' stories and if you're doing some interesting shit, they will message and ask you about it.

You don't need your own dslr, you can always ask a buddy who is good with cameras to take some pics of you.

Keep in mind that having photography as a hobby is great when you are dating attractive girls. You can become an amateur photographer and just learn a few settings, then when you're hanging out with them (or even as an open) you can have them model for you. "Wow, this would be such a cool shot, stand here and do a pose." Post that to IG. Girls see you are hanging out with other attractive girls, and you know how to take good photos (Value in a girls eyes), which gives them incentive to hang out with you and get fucked.

Finally, remember that instagram is there as a management tool to compliment cold approach and online game. You meet the girl and have her follow you. Instagram is not likely to generate cold leads unless your profile is really fucking on point / famous. Just focus on providing value and displaying a fun lifestyle and girls will stalk that shit and want to hang out.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Very interesting post. But what about the importance of social media in college/university? I have neither Instagram nor Facebook, but I'm starting university next year and thinking about creating it for when I start university

[–]Fedora_Tipper_ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I feel like it doesn't hurt to have it if you avoid following models/random girls you don't know. It's good to have awesome pictures with a high resolution camera. I personally only post one pic a month but get tagged in alot because I'm social.

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She looks even better in the pictures

Heh. That's one way to look at it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Mostly women(I couldn't give a shit about updates on other mens' lives).

That's actually more beta/ blue pill than the opposite would be.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Correct, which is why I stopped doing it/deleted insta

[–]abh985 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good post bro. I agree with you that 90% men use SM to lurk on women they have 0 shot of getting IRL

Personally, I will never delete IG/twitter because I’m a huge football fan and keep up to date with players/trades/contracts/game live-streams through social media.

I rarely post and use only Tinder/hook up apps when I wanted casual sex back then.

IRL hooks always >> social media asking out too. Much easier to get her attention, have her see your face/body/height and charisma IRL than online

[–]Zenith8 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can we get an instagram link for this broad?

[–]Interisti10 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Post photos of the girl OP?

[–]w1seguy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's too busy banging other models right now, you'll just have to wait

[–]Luckyluke23 6 points7 points  (0 children)

man...

i don't know what it is about this post but I felt it was really " hey look at me I fucked!" maybe it's cos I'm too jealous or the fact I'm too advanced now and know all the " tricks of the trade"

when I read she send you a SECOND message. I knew it was on. the title said you banged ( so i know you could handle your shit) and she had the attraction.

after that, you just gave her something other guys aren't if it was any other chump he would have given over his social media.

it's right what you say about Instagram I recently got rid of 90% of the thots I had on there and now I just have photography people because I'm trying to get into it.

[–]elcartmano 2 points3 points  (12 children)

I only have 70 followers, I try to post some quality photos and I enjoy doing it but it seems impossible for me to have more. It's way more simple for girls as you just have to show you ass. I feel like if any girl find out that I only have 70 followers my SMV will drop to a very low point to their eyes.

Probably deleting my account is the best thing to do

[–]bssftw 8 points9 points  (8 children)

You have 2 options.

Make your profile public and mass comment on popular igs/unfollow follow ig accts with high amounts of followers, people will follow you

Or

Delete your account. 70 followers is deviantly low, a major red flag, and will get the pussy dry af.

[–]elcartmano 1 point2 points  (6 children)

How much followers do you think is enough to not raise a red flag for girls?

I know 70 is really low and probably show that I'm a low value beta male with a very limited social life (which is true but I'm working on it). As all this makes me depressed I think I'll just delete it for the moment (too bad because I really enjoy to take and share some cool pictures)

[–]bssftw -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

Not to come off as preachy or douchey just trying to lend advice here, but I was in the exact same position as you for the first 3 - 5 months I had ig.

I literally had 72 followers and was following a little over 100 people. Not good.

What I did was this. I created a goal in writing, and then created a plan to achieve said goal.

My initial goal was 'I have 100 ig followers'.

I had such a limiting belief regarding my ig potential I didnt even set a goal that I would have more followers than following.

Next, I wrote down my plan, 'at least 3x a week I research how to get IG followers.'

Well, what happened was I exceeded my goal by 300% and I currently have 50 more followers than following. My peak follower number was 355, im now sitting at 300 followers following 250.

If you have cool pictures as you say, 100% you can boost your followers, that is however, if youre willing to allow random people to follow you. My page is exclusively cool photos and ever since I set this goal I never looked back. For me, the necessary social proof it brings is well worth it.

In regards to what isnt a red flag. At least 100 followers, that is bad imo, but not devastatingly bad like a double digit follower count is. Ideally, you woukd get to at least 150 - 200 as now youre at least in the game, it isnt impressive, but it isnt fucking you over either.

Also, I rarely ever post, prior to my most recent post 2 months ago, I went almost a full year without posting and was able to maintain my followers. Im 100 percent confident if i were to post weekly over time I would be able to gain 1000+ followers with a 2:1 follower to following ratio

[–]bssftw 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Lol at this having -1 likes, is this an alpha male forum or a butt hurt faggot forum? Everything I said is true and replicable

[–]ttkkk 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Didnt downvote u but imo you just sound like a girl in disguise haha read the word "followers/follow/following" like 10+ times in your comment...

[–]bssftw 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I see what youre saying, but that is the terminology that is used for ig, what else am i supposed to say? Also, how girly is it to use ig as a tactic to get pussy? Because i do and it works.

People need to stop being beta and worrying about how they sound if what they are doing is producing the results they want 'dur you sound like a girl!!11'

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

500 followers, following back 400. Something like that. Or 300/200

[–]DownvoteDaemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Explain the second part about unfollowing

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 2 points3 points  (0 children)

go follow kylie jenner and justin beebs.. every new post they post, just look at the comments.. its all shit like LB, FIRST, FIRST ROW.. (lb=like back, first=like my first pic, first row=like my first row of pics.. basically, like for like type of shit.. FB also means follow back) etc.. you go and do the same.. comment spam like 5 in a row comments.. or just say shit like TITS or something that doesn't fit what everyone else comments.. you'll start getting likes and followers

or you can just pay to get followers.. all fake accounts out of india or some shit

[–]Greek-God-Brody 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Put your profile as public if you're not doing it already and start using hashtags.

[–]so_dee_pops 1 points1 points [recovered]

How'd you get 6k follows? That's a lot.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I used to do fitness modelling

[–]WorldNewPilla 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ooh that's great. Deleted my instagram few days ago as well.

[–]rrealnigga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now just wait until you become an attractive guy with a bit of money then go with a group of friends to a bar and wait for an attractive girl to lock eyes with you (and none of your friends because you're better looking). Once that happens, remember the lessons you learnt from this post and apply them.

Good luck!

[–]no_its_a_subaru 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Finally Simone gets it. Social media is a big part of the problem with modern women. As a man it takes a shit ton of money to compete with a filter + average tits and ass on social media. The only way to win the social media game is to not play.

On a side note, how do nuke a instagram “model’s” confidence from orbit? Point out her shitty photoshop skills. Like op said, she looked better in her pictures. Most instagram thots just use liquify to make them “adobe gains.” 99% are absolute shit at it, look at tits and ass; you see anything that is bent or distorted? Yes it’s liquify guaranteed.

[–]Scheme00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just deleted mine. Had 6 posts and 100 followers, never used it but it still dropped SMV upon anyone’s review. Good post

[–]iLoveReddit32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great field report. Thanks. "She looks even better in the pictures" well duh!

[–]dinnerwithfunions 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sick story. I've been getting lots of chicks dropping in my DMs lately even though I have no pics of me on my profile.

I'm an artist and aspiring tattooer so I use my profile as a quick portfolio to whip out when I'm trying to network and build clientele. I like to do photography too and go urban exploring and going on all sorts of weird adventures with my homies so I post a lot of that crap on my moments. I keep my face and identity completely separate from my profile because I just don't like voluntarily disclosing that information to private companies in this day and age. After I make sure they're not a cop/sketchy person I send them one and usually get an "OMG you're hot" type response back.

Kind of funny, tonight I made a post of some stupid meme and two girls I'm gassing up respond to the same post with the same exact response lmao.

I feel like social media can be good. It can help boost your self esteem a little bit if you're a decent looking dude with low self esteem (maybe you were a fat nerdy gamer kid with acne in your youth like I was). Like if you obsess over your follower ratio and spend too much time on it, I see it as unhealthy. Perhaps spending any time on it is unhealthy though. Like anything, some people can use it with moderation and for some it becomes something that consumes their life.. TV, alcohol, drugs, video games, porn.. You name it.

[–]shinolas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m an expat overseas. My following isn’t big, just under 1k. But I travel all over Europe, as well as multiple trips stateside per year. My instagram buries the hook deep when I meet new girls and sometimes gets old flames coming around curious.

You don’t gotta be a rockstar. Just post cool and flattering shit.

[–]SkyCorpHomeVideo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"No woman ever logged on Instagram and saw Billy, with 12 posts and 152 followers, liking pic number 45 and a timid "Hey" in the DM's and thought wow, this guy seems like a real prospect"

giggled like a little fucking bitch at this

[–]theM8inCharacter 1 points1 points [recovered]

Can I ask you to be more specific about what lifestyle you have?

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Sure, what exactly do you wanna know?

[–]theM8inCharacter 1 points1 points [recovered]

Just wondering does that mean you have to be rich? And what do you talk to the HB about?

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Not necessarily, wealth helps, but in this case It's more status that is the draw card. Wealth can play an aspect in status, but it is not status in its entirety. HB8-10 women look for status. I really don't recommend targeting these women for anything other than sex(if at all).

[–]theM8inCharacter 1 points1 points [recovered]

So how do you exude that status? Social proof? Being sociable?

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not something you would really be able to fake on long enough timeline. Think Cristiano Ronaldo, he has status that cannot be faked. You could go to a club and buy bottles, pretend to be wealthy/high powered/famous and you could go home with a great looking woman, but it's a short term fix, eventually you will be found out. Build real status, this is the long term solution.

[–]rrealnigga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did his previous reply answer any of your questions? It didn't seem so to me

[–]Curtis187 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Dude. Seriously, what’s the point of this post?!

[–]000Spartacus 3 points4 points  (1 child)

This entire post reads like the fictitious writings of a desperate virgin who wishes he was something he never will be

Is this really what this board ia about? Because that's all i'm getting form these threads. Don't believe me? I guarantee you won't give me the name of this "instragram chick" that you speak off because she doesn't exist. Pathetic

[–]Blu_Haze 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Most of the posts here read like beta male fanfiction.

[–]rapeturd2006 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://youtu.be/RZtvW2MUz1k

[–]tkhendall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Deleted Instagram; masturbated to an Instagram model.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What did you do to get a 6k following? That's kind of a weird in-between number.

[–]Matthew15651 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks man, but for me I think genetics are everything.

[–]WhiteGhosts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> of that going on with half of India's population commenting 'Nice bobs and Vagine" or a horde of 12 yr old's commenting "Suck my dick baby".

LEL

[–]mrfritzeltits 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Needed this! Upvote because it made me feel accountable to my actions of wasting time on social media and encouraged me to more productive.

[–]st3ady 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was considering deleting my Facebook recently as I had not updated it in a while, maybe 4 years. I logged on and was surprised to see a recent message from an old mentor that was offering me a job opportunity if I was interested. I think it can be useful to keep your account active, but not too active.

[–]abudun79[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whenever I meet someone (male/female, business/personal, every age) and find out that they are useless non-achievers, they turn out to spend half their life on social media/forums. Even worse than the typical fapper.

[–]Unboundaries 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good information ITT. Never involve yourself in stupid social media where women just post pics of body and have guys pouring at them. Correct, it is beta. They're NOTHING without their stupid social media. Go get them in person and they're just a fucking person.

[–]EscortSportage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a great post! Ive always been a fan of real life vs social media life. It annoys me when im out with friends male/female and all of them are more concerned with sharing the moment with the people that didnt show up than actually having a good time here and now.

[–]loncollins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you that no social media has a profound effect, equivalent to going no fap. With no SM you have to rely on cold approach and no fap you have to rely on a chick to get you off.

However, as others have mentioned, SM can be an valuable tool in your toolbox to get in touch with chicks. Obviously best case scenario you pull a chick from cold approach or social circle and being alpha/aggressive like you did with your insta model. But in certain cases SM can be a good alternative to reach out to girls.

For example, a few weekends ago i met a lil smoke through a cold approach and was with her for a while (danced for a bit and got a make out). Ended up seeing one of my plates and going home with her and not getting the first gal’s number. I found her on insta, DMed her, and we’ve gone out a few times and banged. Without insta, i probably wouldn’t have gotten the lay. Cold approach and social circle always beat SM and apps, but having those options can only help.

[–]Vanwaq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i deleted social media platforms 3 years ago. I noticed my self wasting a lot of time and not getting any positive return. In fact it was causing me to be depressed some days due to looking at others glamours lives. I can tell you there wasn't a second where I missed any of the big 3 platforms. I freed up so much time and the mystery part is real. When I tell girls I don't have any of those platforms they have no idea how to react and they begin to ask a million questions about me which is all the information they would have obtained on one page on facebook or instagram. If you still have any of the social media apps. Purge them all you won't regret it.

[–]Chad_Castle 1 points1 points [recovered]

Just out of curiosity, how old are you OP?

SM seems to be something that people here apply a blanket rule to. From what I’ve observed, older men (30+) have an easier time getting away without SM. There seems to be a larger stigma against it for young people.

I’m not going to lie, if a 21 year old told me they didn’t have Snapchat l, I would think they are weird af. I’m not disagreeing with your point, I just think your age can really dictate how it is perceived.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im 28, technically i think i fall in the bracket of someone who "should" have it. That's probably why it generates more interest/shock value when i don't.

Age is not too relevant, Ive seen 19yr olds with shit profiles, 200 followers, orbiting, who would be far better off not having this crap advertisement of themselves.

And then I've seen 35yr olds, with 100k+ followers, with women drolling over them.

It's more the principle.

[–]AshyLarry27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guys don't stand out anymore. Everyone is the same. They all treat her like a queen, until someone changes things and makes her work for the status people gave her. I remember chatting up a girl at this big bar, I remember doing stuff like getting other guys to buy drinks for us by tricking them into thinking we were related and it was our birthdays. Just teasing and BS game. It didn't take long before her butt hurt orbiters kept trying to pry her away from me. I hadn't found TRP yet, so I went with the dopey "oh shit is that her boyfriend" mentality. She randomly texted me if I was going to the university home coming since I hadn't contacted her since that night at the bar. Lets put things into perspective: We went to two different schools so I never went (BP'd like a motherfucker plus went to a party instead) and that was a good >2 months< since the bar. Must have spoke volumes of her "orbiter to chad" ratio she encountered during those 2 months, let alone just some basic guy with the balls to talk to a girl like a normal person. Half the battle is just not being the guy that gives the spoiled rich kid more presents.

[–]Wrath_of_Trump 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm actually surprised she didn't shit test you about the social media, I would think she would do that before giving up her advantage.

[–]Kempff95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While social media is often a cesspool of the BP, I have found that a presence does have some practical utility. A few times, female friends of mine have showed their friends my Insta, and thought I was hot (have gotten a few dates this way, by literally doing almost nothing). Also, the DM feature can be helpful, as long as it's someone you already know in person (sliding into the DMs of an Insta model or your college's most popular sorority whore probably won't work).

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All very well saying don't reply / comment etc. but if she has 50k followers and only 10 reply, then don't those 10 stand out more than the 49K that in her mind don't even exist? Now obviously they may be noticed and then judged that they are losers but still isn't that better than not existing at all?

[–]livinglikeJamesBond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Deleted my Instagram account. Should have done it a long time ago. Thanks.

[–]1Zanford 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great field report, you reframed away from an arena where she has situational status (social media) with a nice 'let's stick to the real world' dig and showed her how to have a good time on your terms.

[–]crytpomarketing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

" half of India's population commenting 'Nice bobs and Vagine " haha facking Hajiis will they ever learn? they can't even poo in the loo correctly

[–]Viramont 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like pics of the OP and women they’ve interacted with need to be included with these posts to prove their legitimacy.

I have a hard time believing any field reports posted here lol

[–]gman992 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So, women like guys with money and friends? I am so glad I have you guys to explain these things.