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18 Red Flags When It Comes to Dating Females

(self.TheRedPill)

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Since I've been studying personality disorders for a long time (especially Cluster B, C and NOS), I thought I'd give you guys some guidelines to avoid the trap of female narcissism, which is purposefully being enabled by the retards who rule this sick Western shit show. So let's get into this shit.

#1. She Serves You a List of What She Wants in a Man

When women give you lists of what they want in a partner, they usually do it because they’re trying to appeal to your desire to impress them. They’re trying to mold your behaviour into something that accommodates them, setting the terms for the relationship and warning you that if you don’t try to please them by fitting into the box they’ve carved out for you, your chances of sleeping or entering a committed relationship with them are already forfeit.

Don’t fall for the manipulation; if she tells you that she doesn’t like men who spend their evenings in front of the TV whereas that happens to be something you do, the right thing to do is to tell her you’ll probably not be a good fit, and be on your way; not compromise by saying that you’ll reduce the time you spend watching it for her, or lie by saying that it’s something you don’t do.


#2. “I’ve Been Hurt in Relationships Before”

When someone tells you they’ve been hurt in relationships before, they’re essentially trying to solidify the relationship with you before it’s even started. They’re trying to prevent abandonment through guilt and threats (see below), as they’re terrified of reexperiencing the abandonment they suffered at the hands of previous partners (which actually started in early childhood with their emotionally unavailable fathers).

It’s a way to tell you two things:

  • if you leave me, that makes you a horrible person (guilting you into staying),
  • if you leave me, I’ll make a scene and potentially ruin your life (threatening/punishing you for abandoning them).

Healthy people don’t make others responsible for their feelings and previous breakups, so take it as a sign that she might be unstable.


#3. She Has an Entitled Attitude

This might be one of several things; a result of the feminist programming that tells women that they’re entitled to male servitude, an inferiority complex that stems from an inability to compete with men, or a bloated ego deriving from the heaps of attention she gets from hundreds of thirsty men on social media and elsewhere, especially if she’s above average-looking.

If she expects you to pay for a date and scolds you if you don’t, set an immediate boundary and make sure not to give in to her demands.


#4. She Dumps Her Emotional Baggage on You

I’ve dated girls with verbal diarrhea so bad you couldn’t put a lid on it if dinosaurs started falling out of the sky. They couldn’t stop japping about how bad they were treated by their previous boyfriends, what assholes their fathers were, and how unfair the world was to them from the day they were born.

I get that these thoughts need to be processed, but remember that your date is not supposed to be your therapist. If she doesn’t have anyone else to talk to about these things or if the compulsion to share them takes the shape of a freight train that can’t be stopped, she probably has unresolved issues of some kind that you shouldn’t attempt to solve (as this will become your entire relationship dynamic if you start enabling it).


#5. She Has a Bad Relationship with Her Father

If you take one thing from this post, let it be that a woman’s damaged relationship with her father is almost certain to translate to a damaged relationship with you. Whatever relationship dynamic she had with her parent of the opposite sex growing up, she’ll seek to reproduce with the men in her life; meaning, that if the only way she managed to get dad’s attention as a child was to give him the silent treatment, then that’s what she’ll do to you to get yours.

Also, I can guarantee that if she has any type of resentment towards her father, she’ll project that resentment onto you as well.

Bad relationship with dad = get the fuck out of there.


#6. She’s a Feminist

An absolute no-no in this day and age; telling you that she’s a feminist is the equivalent of confessing that she secretly despises men and thinks everything with a penis is sexist. Women who claim to be feminists have been indoctrinated by the system to believe that they’re victims of an evil patriarchy that seeks to keep them in the kitchen at all costs; they’re hostile and competitive in nature, which negates any chance of having a polarized relationship with them.

In addition to that, note that a lot of narcissistic females tend to gravitate towards feminism because it gives them an opportunity to get back at their abusive fathers/partners; an unacceptable substitute for personal development work, as it’s nothing short of obliterating the potential for healthy male-female relationships on a societal level.


#7. She Has No Sense of Humor

A therapist I’ve been following for years now talks about overseriousness as a sign of enmeshment; an emotional stiffness that results from unaddressed childhood wounds that are likely to make a relationship with her difficult. Overseriousness is often comorbid with high levels of reactivity, catastrophizing, and something that’s called operational thinking (lack of colour in one’s narration).

Bear in mind that I’m not talking about situation-appropriate seriousness here; cracking jokes at a funeral probably isn’t what you want to be looking for in a woman either. What I’m talking about, in a nutshell, is emotional repression, and an inability to let loose.


#8. Love-Bombing, i.e. Too Much, Too Soon

Even though fears of abandonment don’t necessarily translate to narcissism, they always translate to unmet childhood needs, which themselves lead to what’s called attachment trauma, and pair-bonding difficulties in adulthood.

Healthy women will take their time to find out if you’re compatible with them, whereas women with fears of abandonment will try to solidify the relationship with you as fast as possible (by offering sex, most of the time). That neediness goes back, once again, to their dysfunctional relationship with their father. Do not compromise. Avoid.


#9. She’s Vague About Her Past

There’s a difference between secrecy and personal boundaries. Some people are intrusive, which is why it’s important to not just divulge any information you’re being asked about without questioning the person’s motives. On the other hand, a symptom of mature adults is that they own their past experiences; they’re not afraid to live up to their mistakes, or talk about past relationships/events in a mature way, even painful ones.

This is not to be mistaken with point number 2, in which I made a case that some women tried to solidify relationships with you by talking about their hurtful experiences with men, basically asking you to take responsibility for how they’ll feel if you leave them. I’m simply talking about an open, honest conversation about the past here.

Also, the discussion should arise because you asked her, not because she spontaneously decided to tell you about it.


#10. She’s Passive-Aggressive

Direct communication is a trademark of emotional maturity. Conversely, an inability to ask for what you want directly and nagging the living hell out of someone because they couldn’t tell that you wanted them to pick the yellow curtain instead of the blue one, is a trademark of arrested development and possibly, narcissistic behaviour. Other passive-aggressive behaviours include:

  • she can’t confront you directly about something you did or said to her that she didn’t like, and takes small jabs at you in order to “get back at you”.
  • she drops hints as to what she wants, and gets bitchy when you don’t manage to mind-read her.

Any type of shaming, gaslighting or drama falls into that category as well.


#11. She Gets Defensive When You Shit Test Her

Because they’re naturally wired to find the man with the best possible genes to bear their offspring, women tend to be selective when choosing their partners. Men, on the other hand, are hardwired to spread their genes as widely and frequently as possible without discriminating, meaning that they’re not picky when it comes to procreation.

In today’s gynocentric society, however, it’s extremely important men learn to do just that; shit test women to separate the wheat from the chaff, as making a wrong choice could quite literally cost them their lives.

My advice is this: when women take small jabs at you to see how you’ll react, mirror the behaviour back at them. You’ll notice that most women can’t stomach the taste of their own medicine at all. Another double-standard that should be exposed, but no one barely ever talks about. Oh, and if they get defensive and start shaming you: say thank you, goodbye.


#12. She Badmouthes Her Ex-Boyfriends

Another characteristic of mature adults, is that they realize that it takes two to tango. In other words, both people have a responsibility in regards to the outcome of a relationship, any relationship, and dumping the entire responsibility of that outcome on the other person signals an inability to introspect and look at one’s own actions. It signals a blind spot, meaning a defense mechanism of which there can be many: blame, responsibility displacement, projection, denial, and many more.

If she badmouthes her ex-boyfriend, not only does that tell you that she’s not the kind of person who takes responsibility for her actions, but also that she’s going to badmouth you once she moves on to the next guy, which is bound to happen at some point.


#13. She Feels the Need to Compete with You (Not Feminine/Submissive in Her Attitude)

Contrary to what society teaches us, men and women are not supposed to be in a pissing contest with one another.

Remember that it’s normal for women to be insecure; if they start acting out, don’t take it as a sign that they’re necessarily narcissists. Many decent women today have been taught that they should be able to do just as well as men in every aspect of work and everyday life, making many of them insecure about not measuring up to their male counterparts. That insecurity is a direct consequence of the system’s feminist indoctrination, and should be able to be quelled if you just sit down and talk it out with them.

Healthy women will be able to be reassured that their inability to compete with you is not a deficiency, but a byproduct of human biology; unhealthy women will tear at your self-esteem to pull you down to their level, then trick themselves into believing that they’re just as able as you are. That’s the women you should avoid.


#14. She Has Addictions

The first thing you should know about addictions, is that they’re usually used as substitutes for needs that can’t be met directly, as well as shame-distraction tools. Even though women from functional families are susceptible to addictions too, addictions are usually reliable indicators that the family unit was damaged on some level. In other words, addicted females most likely had dysfunctional relationships with their fathers, and you know what that means if you’ve read point 5. Typical addictions in today’s females include:

  • Alcohol
  • Junk Food
  • Caffeine
  • Tobacco/Weed
  • Social Media
  • Gossip and Reality TV

Then, if you’re looking for a long-term relationship, it should go without saying that planting your seed in a sick body (and attached to a sick brain) won’t do your son or daughter-to-be any more good than it does you.


#15. She’s Glued to Her Fucking Smart Phone

Staying on the topic of addiction, there are few things in today’s women that make me want to facepalm myself more than them being glued to their stupid phones all the time.

Trying to have a conversation with females whose brains have literally fused with their mobile devices is like trying to talk to a toddler riddled with OCD, ADD and Parkinson’s at the same time. It’s like trying to talk to Malcolm McDowell in that CO torture scene.

She’s not going to hear you, and even if she does, she’ll have forgotten all about it by the time you take your next breath.

If she doesn’t value your presence enough to keep that stupid thing away for a couple of hours, or if she’s so addicted that she simply can’t do it without experiencing some kind of withdrawal symptoms, give her the boot asap.


#16. Piercings and Tattoos

What goes for polluting the inside of her body, goes for the outside as well. Tattoos can signal one of four things:

  • she’s hiding herself because she’s afraid of intimacy (red flag).
  • she’s promiscuous (red flag).
  • she seeks male attention to fill an inner void (red flag).
  • she’s following a trend.

Unless you can determine for a fact that she was young and naive when she decided to modify her body, consider maybe keeping her around for a quick lay every now and then, but never, ever choose to put a ring on it.


#17. She’s Trapped in Victim Mentality

Even though I understand that an environment can be toxic and hold you back from achieving certain results, I also understand that toxic environments can be moved away from.

If you hear a woman blame her environment for being unjust to females (which is extremely rare in Western society, where anything from schools to workplaces is designed to accommodate women), all the while choosing to stay in said environment, that probably tells you she’s either looking for a pity party, or a free handout.


#18. Responsibility is Her Kryptonite

Finishing this list with a reminder more than anything else, just remember that women have every incentive not to be responsible in today’s world; not only are they hardwired to avoid being too direct (as they can’t confront like men do), but they’re also conditioned, in this particular environment, to put the blame on men instead of owning up to their mistakes.

  • It’s the girl that doesn’t show up on a date and blames you for not sending her a reminder that the date was happening.
  • It’s the girl that cheats and accuses you of making her do it, as though her mind and body were controlled by someone or something outside of herself.

It’s the girls that haven’t grown up despite being 20, 30, 40 years of age, which is becoming more and more prevalent in the gynocentric West. Do not negotiate with them; see them for what they are, meaning adult children, and move on.

*Edit: Formatting.


[–]TallSwaggOVO 1 points1 points [recovered]

  1. Inconsistent Sexual Standards

If it gets to a point where she wants you to wait for sex with her, even despite her not doing that in the past, you need to next her. She doesn’t find you as sexually attractive, and sees you as a reliable option. Odds are, when you do finally hit:

A. It won’t be as good as you thought

B. She won’t do half of the exciting sexual shit shes done in the past. She’ll use the excuse that “she doesn’t like doing those things anymore.” But really, she doesn’t like doing those things with you.

She’s busted it open for dudes in her past, but now wants to settle. Be the one she wants, not the one she settles for.

[–]Pragmaticpandas 118 points119 points  (24 children)

Underrated comment. If she's not giving it up for you, she's not attracted enough

[–]falconpush 16 points17 points  (21 children)

What is to be said of wholesome women that have strong religious conventions? Who have been brought up proper, in a nuclear family, taught to not be a slut? Or is that not possible?

[–]dingman58 50 points51 points  (9 children)

taught to not be a slut

I've found those girls are the sluttiest.

[–]armed_renegade 11 points12 points  (0 children)

No shit, catholic girls who have basically been repressed all the time are crazy in bed.

It's the age old adage of, the forbidden fruit.

Exactly why countries where they legalised and regulated drugs, less people do them. Less kids or young people try them etc.

Because they're forbidden they are exciting...

[–]omarieleo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

100% true in my experience.

[–]falconpush -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

Then they do not qualify for the question, as they present themselves as low value.

[–]Redagogue -1 points0 points  (4 children)

No True Scotsman fallacy. Look into it.

[–]falconpush 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I am aware, but I do not see the connection. Care to elaborate?

[–]Redagogue 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If she's not giving it up to you, she's not attracted.

"What about girls raised properly in a world post sexual revolution?"

Those girls are typically the ones who become the sluttiest.

"But those girls weren't raised properly!"

That those girls didn't obey their training does not make them suddenly not trained. Now, what you probably meant was, "what about girls who maintain virginity until marriage?". This is a better phrasing. The answer to that question is this is a sub about men getting laid. Girls who categorically won't fuck are non-entities. The days where men had to sell committment to get sex are over, so do not pretend it's a good deal.

You're probably religious, so you have pure untouched women on pedestals as good and wholesome, but a good and wholesome n=1 girl who fucks you without committment is infinitely better for the man. You get all the benefits of a virginal bride without paying any of the price, and then if things don't work out you can separate without legal entanglements. That's today's SMP. If you want the benefits of a marriage on family and stability, then you have to reconcile the fact that even mormons have ~40% divorce rate, subject to all the joys of child support, alimony, property division, etc. What percentage of couples have a marriage that is better than singlehood? And for what percentage of that marriage?

"Those aren't couples with real faith!" "The wife demonstrated she was low value and does not qualify!"

Marriage 1.0 is dead. The benefits of virginal brides are dead. Don't expect us to oooh and aaah over some girl who protects her holy cooch when there are many many more girls out there willing to give it up to the right guy.

[–]falconpush 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What i was referring to, when I asked for elaboration was What is to be said of wholesome women that have strong religious conventions

The meaning here is that IF she was raised properly, in conjunction with MAINTAINING her purity/value (even in the face of temptation). Those who share only one of these doesnt qualify for the statement I was trying to make.

I agree, that coming from a proper upbringing, then riding the CC on the first day of college, does not negate the efforts her parents made. She made bad choices... and therefore disqualifies herself from my statement.

My confusion seems to come from the "two types of females" we tend to talk about here, those who subject themselves to becoming plates (locating these females tends to be the main tune in the sub). And those females who provide enough "reward" to be worthy of a LTR but were never plates themselves (as the N count would be too high thus disqualifying themselves for a LTR). We may not be "oooh"-ing and "aaah"-ing over these women directly, but indirectly, they are talked about and prized in this form above all the other females. Thus increasing there value and gravity.

This type of over-look is making views unbalanced in this sub when evaluating the worth of a female by a male, and adding to the confusion of what female is high value and what female is not.

It's something that needs to be address, although im not 100% sure how to go about it.

EDIT:Format

[–]RedHeimdall 15 points16 points  (1 child)

In the current year, that girl is known as a unicorn. You can look for one if you want, hell I probably am as well, but don't hold your breath on finding one.

[–]eyewant 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's probably 1 out of a million, so there's a big chance that when you find your holy saint unicorn, you won't be attracted to her.

[–]cdhunt6282 17 points18 points  (6 children)

If she is, she's a diamond in the rough. But more often then not, they aren't even if they claim to be. If she went to public school (or even most private schools anymore), what she learned there contradicted what her parents told her every day. Then you wind up with a whore and confused parents saying "b-but we didn't raise her this way. We don't know what got into her." Correct, they didn't raise her that way. They didn't raise her at all. They let the state raise her, the same state pushing feminism and all the other post-modern bullshit. Only a fool would let his enemy educate his children.

As an addendum, women don't really have strong religious convictions. They aren't rational creatures, and I mean that in a technical sense. Logical maybe, but my dog can be logical and see when something doesn't work. Rationality has to do with regulating emotions, so we know that at least a week out of every month, they're completely irrational. This is why women can't be priests in the high churches (read: churches that actually follow scripture and tradition, namely traditional Catholic churches and Orthodox churches). Being a priest, you can't change doctrine on a whim. Women would flourish in dionysian cults, where doctrine was based entirely on feelings and imagery, but not in a concrete theological system. This is why, traditionally, husbands were a few years older than their wives and also the reason we use the words "husband" and "groom" specifically. Where else are those words used? Husbandry and the medieval profession of being a groom refer to raising and caring for animals (and plants). The husband was older because it was a teaching role as much as anything. Taking over the position of authority in her life from her father. It was the father and then the husband's role to keep her on the straight and narrow. But I will say that they're different in this for a reason. Men are rational, but there are times when being rational isn't there best idea. For example (back to religious ideas), when Christ was arrested and crucified, the rational male apostles ran and hid to save their own skin and carry on the faith. It was the irrational women who stayed by His side and discovered His empty tomb. Men and women balance each other out, but it's the male's job to maintain values and beliefs.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 13 points14 points  (1 child)

"Only a fool would let his enemy educate his children."

This should be put on a plaque and framed somewhere.

The problem is, the state propaganda organ, which the wealthy finance as a fig-leaf for their agenda, cloaks everything in the language of benevolence, and the parents are most likely already serfs or slaves to the corporations controlled by aforesaid wealthy interests.

[–]ImHerWonderland 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Well, where should I send my daughter to go to school then?

[–]cdhunt6282 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Homeschool if you can. I've got a network of friends that lives close enough that we can homeschool kids as a group, which makes it easier for everybody. That might be something to look into doing

[–]ImHerWonderland 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm not going to lie man, every time I've met a homeschooled kid growing up as a child, they were extremely socially awkward.

[–]cdhunt6282 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, probably. But if it's a bunch of kids getting homeschooled together, not as much of an issue as homeschooling alone. Plus there's sports and stuff

[–]Flintblood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difference is her known sexual past. If her N count is single digits or 0 then you’re gold.

[–]Pragmaticpandas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll never say that's not possible, I've met a few of them. But women like to give the appearance of being a lot more "Wholesome" than they are.

[–]snowmoose1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

so let’s say my gf used to let me take her in the backdoor but now won’t let me do the “dirty business” with her anymore cause whatever excuse or she used to lay a lot and let me do all imaginable things to her but no more, i see she lost the attraction. How to regain it so that i can do those things with her again without putting her on a pedestal and come off as needy or a loser?

[–]Pragmaticpandas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's clearly losing attraction.. So become more attractive. No need to elaborate, there's plenty of guides here on TRP for that.

I would take a detached look at things - once things start going down this path, it's hard to reverse. This is a leading indicator, in my eyes, that things are not going to work out (or worse, you get a dead bedroom and get cucked).

What can you do? Start shifting your mental gears, realize that you don't need her (especially if she is withholding). Don't hound her for sex or anything kinky. Better yet- express no sexual interest for a little while. Distance yourself a bit, as if you were prepping yourself to cut things off. If this doesn't get her wanting you more....

[–]whuttupfoo 31 points32 points  (2 children)

That isn’t a red flag on the girl though. That’s a red flag for the man. If a girl is holding off on sex with you, that means you’ve given off too much of a beta vibe.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Not neceserally beta, she just doesn't like you, and you can alpha as much as you want.

[–]MrAnderzon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"Be what women want not what they settle for"

That's some mantle above the fireplace type sayings

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (9 children)

'I tried anal once, didn't like it...'

[–]domable19 10 points11 points  (8 children)

Me either, they make it look so much better in porn than it really is.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (7 children)

I was referencing a common saying from girl's point of view.

[–]Nostyx 4 points5 points  (5 children)

I take this comment as “the guy I tried it with didn’t know what he was doing, and so it hurt and I didn’t like it”

I can usually win them over.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Nah they say this to you if they don't want anal eith you. If they want they'll beg you to put it in her ass.

[–]Nostyx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don’t know any better.

[–]bobeta 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’ve had girls who were down for all sorts of kinky shit not want anal tho. If the guy fucks up it really can hurt so bad you never try again.

[–]GhostOnReddit 3 points4 points  (8 children)

Have you ever heard of “Bundle of Brittany ”? Because this post describes her down to the letter.

[–]them1lfman 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Her need for attention is crazy. 90% of her photos are halfnaked. I would never want a girl whose got ig post with prefect outlines of her pussy etched in her short shorts.

[–]Kibbles99 1 points1 points [recovered]

Last line sold me but it was a bill of goods! NO clam lines to be found anywhere. Without undue judgment on someone I've never met, she does have a lot of "sexy" pictures of herself. I don't think I'd take a swing at that, even if I was a Chad9000.

[–]GhostOnReddit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even worse than that, she’s not submissive:

Exhibit A

[–]ImHerWonderland 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You guys are saying you wouldn't have a one night stand with her? Shit, I might not date her, but I would sleep w her.

[–]them1lfman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never said all that partner. I concur.

[–]Thefirstofmykind 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I wish I could quadruple upvote this.

[–]615bachelor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This should be the top comment . I been in this situation before

[–]LAdude71 3 points4 points  (1 child)

How can one tell if you're the one she really wants vs. the guy she's settling for?

[–]dankmemem88 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you have to ask yourself this question, you are not her top priority

[–]bookloverphile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you say “she wants you to wait for sex with her” are you meaning like she only wants to have sex when she wants to?

[–]dinnerwithfunions 469 points470 points  (28 children)

Sounds like I’m gonna have to turn gay if I wanna date lmao

[–]hackinghippie 161 points162 points  (4 children)

Lol, No better over here, sry

[–]Self_Descr_Huguenot 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Yup, most recent (male) ex had most of these red flags; turned out worse than my female ltr before him, kind of by a longshot too. Its actually more painful, in my experience anyway, to have a man betray you or mess with your head or what have you because you expect another man to be rational and reasonable like yourself- that makes it seem colder and more calculating than if it had been a woman wronging you.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Am male and I have many of these red flags.

[–]Nicolacho7 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Then try to fix those. Girls probably see them too.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I would hope so. I don't try to get girls anyway. I get my dopamine from the internet.

[–]MyDarkSideOfTheMoon 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Next up: 18 red flags when dating gay men.

[–]AtticusWarhol 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Came here to say that.

Gonna need a revised version of this for dudes.

[–]Tenth_10 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Straight here. I can honestly say both your comments are my biggest bad news of the day. I really hoped, that, somehow, this behaviour was only from the hypergamous, solipsistic, 21th century women and this would explain that.
Common, bros !

[–]AceofRains 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Trust me, gay dating isn’t a thing. Sex without all the complications of emotional attachment. It gets wierd when someone gets attached.

[–]Patri_Arky 1 points1 points [recovered]

Wait, blowjobs without bullshit are actually a thing?!?!

:)

[–]BobLordOfTheCows 18 points19 points  (11 children)

Just get a foreign girl. You'll never go back.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (8 children)

neither will she once she sets foot on american soil. but she might divorce you all the same

[–]ImHerWonderland 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Depends on the guy. Yeah, if you're out of shape, a complete slob, and let yourself go then she'll run off as soon as possible. I've unknowingly slept with girls who were married to guys for the visa, and had no clue until way later. If you're desirable, then it's like any other girl.

[–]BobLordOfTheCows 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Are you talking about mail-order brides? I mean exchange students/new immigrants or going to a traditional, foreign country permanently.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Nope, not just those. Eddie Murphy did a great routine on this:

"If I ever get married, I have to go off to the woods of Africa and find me some crazy, naked, zebra bitch ...that knows nothing about money.

"She got to be butt naked on a zebra with a big bone in her nose and a big plate lip and a big, fucked-up Afro!... And I'm gonna bring her home. ...You go off to Africa and get you a bush woman, you can't let her mingle with American women. Because they'll change her shit up. American women stick together.

"Last thing they wanna see is you got some trained bush bitch in your house. They will catch her by herself in the kitchen and throw a monkey wrench in your whole program. They get her alone, they be like, "I can't stand the way you be "doing everything he tell you to do.... Do you know you could take half his money? Did you know that? "He didn't tell you you were entitled to half? "He only told you half the story. "You can take half the money, the car, the house, the children. ... "Eddie! "Eddie! "I want to talk to you!" "What's your problem, baby?" "I don't like the way you treat me, Eddie. "You treat me like animal."

"You was butt naked on a zebra last month." "I don't care, Eddie. I am American woman now. "I want what's coming to me. "Eddie, what have you done for me lately?" "I want you to be happy. Well, what you want?" "Half! "Give me half, Eddie."

[–]BobLordOfTheCows -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

The fuck are you going on about?

[–]mudflapslilguy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Seriously? That was fucking hilarious

[–]thetotalpackage7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

learn to read you ADD fuck

[–]Planner_Hammish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya, that is no guarantee that she will not exhibit these flags.

[–]saargrin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Come to the dark side.
We got protein shake

[–]redvelvet_oreo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lmao I was gonna say this post just ruled out like 98% population of women.

[–][deleted] 328 points329 points  (11 children)

Lol try finding a bitch who doesn't have at least half of these..I was starting to think this was just a list of average female traits

[–]FratboyOnReddit 81 points82 points  (0 children)

Lmao i was damn that sounds like every fucking girl I know lol

[–]GETMONEYGETPAlD 1 points1 points [recovered]

Lmao I got through the first 9 or so and was like alright damn my girl is doing pretty good... you’re not finding a chick under the age of 30 that doesn’t strike at least a few of these.

[–]antariusz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, I might be developing oneitus. Because unicorns don’t exist.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uh, or a chick over the age of 30...

[–]Gmun23 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes; 30 y/o chicks that still have these traits are red flags. I'm seeing a girl that 30 and these traits are very minimal some non existent, but then again shes 30 and i'm a couple years less then that. Now girls younger then this without these traits? they hard to find, I'm almost convinced that its non existent? I think the 18 red flags listed above are attempts at shit-test younger girls make to get a top tier man but they date enough men that eventually puts them in there places and by the age of 30 they must adapt. Just like a man that do destructive things in his life may have a life crises and need to finally adapt (improve) to get anywhere in life. Just an idea, not sure what you guys think?

[–]christmas_miracle_69 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I’ve gotta say my ex gf was super hot and displayed every single one of these traits and I had the oneities for sure.

Current girl I am seeing does not have any of these, but also not as hot and my feelings are not in the same spot (not even close to a potential oneitis.

Life’s not fair man...

[–]UrbanEngineer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What does "hot" mean to you? Ask her what it means to her and see how you can change while she loses weight/wears that brand makeup that makes you feel special.

[–]WickedCoolName 1 point2 points  (0 children)

same boat. I have no idea what to make of it tbh. She is nice tho. just not the same spark. Hottness is lackig too but it has more to do with her being so fuckig reasonable all the time, not looks. 0 drama. and that is supposed to be good i think... I am clueless

[–]Andgelyo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This. Good luck finding a girl who doesn’t have these traits. All of them have some of these traits to some degree. Especially the “boyfriend check list”. Imo just do you. Date around, have fun, if it lasts enjoy it, if it doesn’t, then move on.

[–]iamadrunk_scumbag 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No shit. Where is this unicorn??

[–]RedSkeller 96 points97 points  (4 children)

Might as well start discussing the best weaponry to kill unicorns

[–]the_depth_of_self 1 points1 points [recovered]

.45 Glock with gold bullets

[–]tehNOViCE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can we do silver instead? I've got to invest in Gold.

[–]askmrcia 141 points142 points  (12 children)

I always feel that these red flag lists are just pointless. Because you're not going to find a woman that doesn't have a red flag.

You can make a red flag out of anything. I just think it's important to see multiple red flags occur frequently to make any real decisions if you want to move forward with a girl or not.

[–]destraht 46 points47 points  (2 children)

Red flags are for increased alertness. Try telling a military or fraud department that "red flag lists are just pointless". Its just that with women the typical awful consequence is just that you got your head fucked and lost time. So you move to the next one and think that you are doing good because you got some sweet wetness.

[–]Nap4 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Let’s call them yellow flags? Then red flags will be saved for the more extreme problems.

[–]destraht 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, a tattoo probably shouldn't be a universal Defcon 1 red flag.

Just a little aside, when I lived in Shanghai I had a banging hot unusually tall girlfriend whose father was a Party "police officer", which basically meant that he was a small feudal lord slash mafia boss over his district. So as long as there were no problems then he gets a cut of illegal dealings. If something became a stink then it was his ass. So he wanted her to go into the glorious Party but she wanted to travel about (they can't so easily without permission) and run amock in some Western country. So she got a tattoo as a way of putting him off for good since Party members have to be clean. So he keeps on about it and how they can get it laser removed so then to cement the situation she went out and got a second one. Then he gave up about it. Well it didn't work out between us I guess this could all be written off as daddy issues and tattoos.

[–]phoenix335 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Then think of it as a risk assessment score.

Zero red flags would be good, a few progressively worse and a lot the sore reminder to bail out ASAP.

These kind of lists simplify a more complex reality by abstraction, which introduces a generalization error in favor of being easier to understand. Not all the things OP listed are equally bad, but all should raise the risk score.

[–]Merwebb -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Zero red flags and i will be running very very far and very very quick

[–]phoenix335 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why would you run away from zero red flags? You mean you'd be sure you'd miss something or they're exceptionally good at hiding it proving exceptional pathology?

[–]Terdmuffin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Okay so everyone here is saying how every girl has these red flags.... Yeah probably! Everyone has red flags... That's fine. We are all human. its important to recognize PATTERNS . Do these patterns suggest she is impulsive and can't plan for the future? That she has difficulty forming close relationships? That she lacks self identity? Is she manipulative?

[–]rattamahatta 0 points1 point  (2 children)

They work like a spam filter. Not any single one of them triggers it, and they're not all equally scored, but once she reaches a certain score, the filter applies.

[–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yes and this was the point I'm making.

But when people like Op says if your girl does xyz then it's a red flag so don't try dating her then it becomes pointless.

[–]rattamahatta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't get too caught up in word thinking. If you call it a red flag or not isn't the issue. It's valid information nevertheless.

[–]dankmemem88 41 points42 points  (3 children)

I would say a lot of these things are extremely common nowadays. But definitely right on #8. Love-Bombing, i.e. Too Much, Too Soon. If a girl suddenly latches onto you emotionally and you did absolutely nothing to gain that from her, run far away because that is 100% BPD and will fuck with your head.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Usually goes hand-in-hand with #2, from my experience. They love bomb you from the start, and if you don't show the same love bombing back, they play victim and withdraw from you.

"I just can't go out with you again, I feel like I am just one of many options you have to choose from and don't want to get my heart broken...." - classic rejection line I've gotten from the ones who love bomb you right off the bat and then cut you off after one or two dates when you hold frame and don't show the same love bombing back.

[–]2CasaDeFranco 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I dated a BPD; it was a fun ride but I have the TRP to thank for pulling the trigger before it consumed me. She confessed she had been diagnosed BPD and even without knowing the nature of the disorder I dumped her twice (she wasn't Japanese but I had to drop the bomb a second time) to end the relationship.

Not even worth a plate, 2/7 would not try again.

[–]dankmemem88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure I dated a BPD. But she refused to consider the possibility when I told her she had it. It was fun for the love bombing phase... after that not so much.

[–]2Overkillengine 60 points61 points  (4 children)

Here's two more:

1) A woman that fucked up bad enough to have her kids taken away.

2) A woman that fucked up badly enough to get slapped with a felony.

 

Keep your dick and wallet as far as you can from a woman with either.

[–]cat_magnet 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Dude stay away from single mothers in any capacity.

[–]2Overkillengine 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That is a good general policy to have if you are a man flush with options. But relying on lower tier men to take the advice of choosing between dicking a single mom and enduring a dry spell is going to work out about as well as abstinence only sex ed. There will be a few outliers that manage it and a shit ton of others that fail spectacularly.

Thus coaching them to avoid the most radioactive ones (and to improve so they don't have to resort to single moms at all) is more practical.

[–]RedIntrovert 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Immediate Left Swipe when I see her profile.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No shit? Huh. Wouldn’t have thought of that myself. Thanks for that mind blowing wisdom.

[–]bossplayaintraining 235 points236 points  (13 children)

LOL this is EVERY girl nowadays.

The ones that don’t have all of these traits are just manipulating you to maximize the pain when they cheat on you.

[–][deleted] 80 points81 points  (4 children)

More or less every person now a days. The solution isn’t to avoid women who have these traits, instead knowing how to manage them

[–]cbnyc0 27 points28 points  (0 children)

That's my thinking as well. I don't know any women who don't have at least two or three of these issues going on.

[–]nofilmynofucky 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Counter point: many of (if not all) these traits are indicative of deep-seated emotional issues that you simply cannot change in another person.

Some breaks can't be unbroken, and even in the cases where there may be some hope, it would require an amount of effort and force of will that is beyond most men these days, let alone women.

This list is a pretty sad one, but I do feel it's more or less accurate. Does it eliminate most women from the pool a man should consider as viable? Yes. Is this because that pool is a stagnant swamp filled with bloated toads? Also yes.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No almost no break can’t be unbroken my friend. Whether or not someone is willing to do what it takes to fix it is another.

Nobody is going to be marrying a girl they date at 22. Have some fun and don’t rule out people simply because of traits that might be indicative of emotional issues. And even if they are it’s all about the extent to which they affect the relationship.

[–]nofilmynofucky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Notice I specified you can't change these in another person, with an emphasis on pointing out how much effort and self control making these changes takes

Of course it's possible, however for most people it's incredibly unlikely and one should never overestimate their ability to cause change in others.

[–]ClassyNotFlashy 28 points29 points  (4 children)

I'll be honest I've met some decent down to earth girls who actually don't go to the bar/party every weekend. I met them through my parents social circle. So yes there are decent girls out there if you're willing to search in the right places.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

They probably want the tantric sex, right? 'Anal is for sluts' and shit...

[–]James_Rustler_ 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Well there's a tradeoff there, you gotta decide what you want. I personally would rather have one good stable relationship rather than x plates where I have to manage all of the above deficiencies.

The best situation for casual sex for me is where we don't have any attachments other than sex. That way I don't have to be involved with her for a damn thing besides fucking.

The OP basically describes marriage material and some people want that, some people don't.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I personally would rather have one good stable relationship rather than x plates

I thought the same way, but it's too much pressure to be always on point... Besides i rather have rough sex than tantric so plates are better. Less screening too.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m growing to feel that way too.

[–]nofilmynofucky 5 points6 points  (0 children)

tbf most women these days are not relationship material let alone marriage material.

[–]Celicni 1 points1 points [recovered]

You're making me have doubts about my LTR that doesn't have any of these flags.

[–]childish206 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is your girlfriend extremely beautiful/attractive? I find this to be a common trait in beautiful women. I personally dont see this as a red flag. Truthfully, most people dont have more than two genuine friends.

[–]st3roids 13 points14 points  (1 child)

You effectively disqualified 90% of todays female population

[–]Solipsistic_guy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

99% and I think that’s the way it’s supposed to be. OP doesn’t say don’t bang these chicks, just don’t put a ring on it.

[–]FrostyFurseal 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Bad relationship with dad = get the fuck out of there.

Respectfully disagree. This is like those woman who say "You gotta love your mama." We don't choose our parents. Some people get a raw deal in that department.

[–]grewapair 30 points31 points  (1 child)

#0 - Single mother. How can you have a list without the reddest of red flags?

#19 Rich dad. You run into these girls if you have money. They are looking for a provider to replace dad, and otherwise have no interest in you beyond what it will take to hook you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, I think your rich dad comment deserves a post all in itself. Never thought of it like that before

[–]CapnPoot 84 points85 points  (8 children)

This is an excellent list - unfortunately almost every girl has about 80% of these traits.

And if I may add 2 obvious red flags:

1) Slept with guys outside of some form of relationships 2) Has a lot of “guy friends”

[–]WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I would also add:

Has no hobbies of her own. Instead coops the hobbies of whoever she's dating all reverse borg like.

Not only does this make her spectacularly unimaginitive, it also means that she has a real chance of ruining your favorite thing - even if it's just shirt term.

[–]Cdsmasher 9 points10 points  (0 children)

a point where she wants you to wait for sex with her, even despite her not doing that in the past, you need to next her. She doesn’t find you as sexually attractive, and sees you as a reliable option. Odds are, when you do finally hit:

A. It won’t be

that 80% went up to 90% now...

[–]REBANXZA 1 points1 points [recovered]

I don’t understand. What’s wrong with a meaningless hookup? Or is it just okay if you do it?

[–]CapnPoot 0 points1 point  (4 children)

There’s nothing “wrong” with it, but instead, the issue is that people are not mindful of the repercussions. There have been many studies that show how casual sex damages a person’s ability to pair bond. This means that down the road, relationships are harder to maintain, leading to higher divorce rates, higher single motherhood rates, and inevitably, more dysfunctional children.

There are plenty of studies to back this, and our broken generation is the result of 40 years of this type of indoctrination. So by all means, people can do whatever they want, but they should at least be mindful of their negative contributions towards society.

[–]REBANXZA 1 points1 points [recovered]

So this goes for everyone? Not just women? Because going off of the logic used to form these “studies,” the reason for many children growing up fatherless must be due to the fact that men are notorious for having meaningless hookups.

If such sexual encounters are the result of distraught “pair bonds,” then this idiotic “rule” should be directed towards men, since they lead the nation’s child abandonment, domestic violence and adultery/infidelity statistics.

This entire post is just a fat contradiction. Says it’s wrong for a woman to want “perfection,” but goes on to create a lengthy list of requirements a woman must meet in order to be “dateable.”

[–]CapnPoot -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

So this goes for everyone? Not just women?

Pair bonding effects women far more than it does so on men. Studies show that the more casual encounters a women has, the higher her chance of divorce. For men it is also true, but to a much lower degree. Regardless, the “hookup-culture” negatively effects both sexes, and so it is a joint contribution towards degradation.

Because going off of the logic used to form these “studies,” the reason for many children growing up fatherless must be due to the fact that men are notorious for having meaningless hookups.

Children are growing up fatherless because of both sexes. Women are becoming “empowered” and divorcing for any reason they deem fit, and are being rewarded by the government to do so. Many man also don’t stick around because a lack of familial values, realized by our vapid culture.

If such sexual encounters are the result of distraught “pair bonds,” then this idiotic “rule” should be directed towards men, since they lead the nation’s child abandonment, domestic violence and adultery/infidelity statistics.

Women divorce men in 80%+ of cases, estranging the children in many of those cases. Domestic violence has been shown to be almost equal in both directions. And adultery/infidelity is equal, and women will soon roughly account for more than 50% of the statistic, since they have easier access to sex. Please do your research before you regurgitate sexist facts that are proven to be myths.

This entire post is just a fat contradiction. Says it’s wrong for a woman to want “perfection,” but goes on to create a lengthy list of requirements a woman must meet in order to be “dateable.”

No, it is not. There is a laundry list of issues with today’s men as well, but this is a men’s forum, so you will be exposed to our side of the issues. But, truth be told, women have been given privileges which are easily abusable, and so to no surprise, they are being exploited. This is no different than a rich kid who acts as if they are something special for no reason.

Read around some of the stories here. I am friends with plenty of girls, and understand their side of things. Their stories make me sad. But take a look around here at some of the stories. In your everyday life, you will likely never hear of a man sending a woman to jail for life over a rape accusation, or hearing about a man who divorce-raped a women for 80% of their income for the next 20 years, or about a man who broke up with a girl and told all her friends she domestically abused him, so she goes to jail.

These are constant threats men face, and they are very real. So forgive us for trying to find all of the “red flags” which would help us avoid a lengthy jail sentence.

[–]REBANXZA 1 points1 points [recovered]

Forgive me, but in no case should a father abandon his child simply because of a dispute between him and his spouse. At that point it’s no longer the fault of both sexes, but his own as he CHOSE to abandon his child.

“Do your research.” I have, which is the only reason I’ve included adultery. I’ve visited multiple websites and studies in which deemed my statement correct. Though I admit, it wasn’t too far of a gap. But none the less; men still led/lead that statistic, whether it be by 10% or 100. And in no way was I being sexist snowflake.

The majority of my friends are male as well as females. Look around the ACTUAL world, not just a bunch of MGTOWs and INCELs on reddit. You’ll never hear of a man who’s been brutally beaten all because he’s tried to leave his significant other. You’ll never hear of a man being brutally raped and left in an alleyway. You’ll never hear of a man being told “get back in the kitchen” or, just NOW being able to sit in a drivers seat and press the gas. Do you think a man has ever experienced blatant gender driven discrimination in regards to laws, social equality and politically incorrect policies? And please spare me the whole divorce and court bullshit. There’s a reason men often lose child custody and divorce cases.

NBA live has just announced that they’ll be updating their game by adding female characters. What do you think the response to that was? All cherries and roses? Men are literally boycotting the game and resorting to sexist hate tweets to prove their misogynistic points.

Sure; men have it rough, but so do women. You complain about not being able to court a woman because you aren’t a “chad” or weren’t “blessed” with “superior” genetics and deem a woman wrong for wanting perfection, yet create posts like this. Is that a contradiction or a double standard? Hypocrisy perhaps?

“Red flags?” Tattoos ... father issues ... dyed hair? A woman having dyed hair and tattoos will land you jail time? You’re overreacting snowflake. You men build the perfect woman in your head then get mad when no woman on this planet reaches your unachievable standards. But we’re wrong for wanting someone 6ft? Or at the very least someone good looking? I’d say the biggest red flag in regards to a woman dating a man would be this. A man who gets on reddit and creates a list of “requirements” a woman must reach in order to be considered dateable.

Ever ask yourself why almost every man who creates posts like these are single, and have been single for the majority of their lives?

[–]CapnPoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Forgive me, but in no case should a father abandon his child simply because of a dispute between him and his spouse. At that point it’s no longer the fault of both sexes, but his own as he CHOSE to abandon his child.

I agree, in the same way I believe a women who estranges her children from her husband is at fault - and yes, it happens a lot. 3 times in my family, and according to the government statistic where women have custody in majority of cases.

“Do your research.” I have, which is the only reason I’ve included adultery. I’ve visited multiple websites and studies in which deemed my statement correct. Though I admit, it wasn’t too far of a gap. But none the less; men still led/lead that statistic, whether it be by 10% or 100. And in no way was I being sexist snowflake.

I’m not saying you’re a snowflake, I’m saying your facts are incorrect. Women have more access to sex, therefore it is easier for them to cheat. If you believe they are less likely to, then you are bestowing upon them an inherent virtue - which is false. The average women is no better-hearted than the average man.

Look around the ACTUAL world, not just a bunch of MGTOWs and INCELs on reddit.

I look at the real world. I’ve dated plenty of girls, cool, rich, gorgeous, etc. My issue doesn’t stem from being Red Pill or Incel, it comes from having been brainwashed into believing women have some inherent virtue, and realizing women are human, and humans, depending on society, can be shit.

You’ll never hear of a man who’s been brutally beaten all because he’s tried to leave his significant other.

My ex-girlfriend beat the shit out of me and dislocated my arm when I tried to break up with her, and I wasn’t allowed to fight back, because she was a girl. So gtfo with your “wymyn are fragile” bullshit. Its this kind of denial that lets women get away with murder.

You’ll never hear of a man being brutally raped and left in an alleyway.

Right, but youll never hear of a women get screwed over by a man who decided to steal her sperm, and forced to pay child support for the next 18 years. Or a women whose husband cheated on her, and she gets divorce-raped by him and the government to become an alimony slave.

You’ll never hear of a man being told “get back in the kitchen”

I’d rather be told “get back in the kitchen” as opposed to “go slave away at work to support me”.

Do you think a man has ever experienced blatant gender driven discrimination in regards to laws, social equality and politically incorrect policies?

Yes. It’s called today’s society. Women can MeToo a guy, and his life is over. Women can cheat on you, and still get half your shit. Women can steal your children, and you can’t do shit about it, because all of the family courts favor women. In many countries now, men aren’t even allowed to legally get a paternity test, and women have all of the paternal power. So gtfo with your “wymyn are oppressed” rhetoric. Women can do whatever the fuck they want these days, and it’s getting out of control.

And please spare me the whole divorce and court bullshit. There’s a reason men often lose child custody and divorce cases.

Honestly, you are a moron if you believe this. Seriously. You have 0 idea about any of what happens. I have tons of friends and family who are lawyers, and family court is a shit show. It is a common tactic for women to claim abuse in order to get more out of a divorce, or even child custody. common.

NBA live has just announced that they’ll be updating their game by adding female characters. What do you think the response to that was? All cherries and roses? Men are literally boycotting the game and resorting to sexist hate tweets to prove their misogynistic points.

Because guys want to play with their favorite players, and guess what? Almost no guys have favorite women players. They are mad because they are being forced to have to have their space invaded by women. Imagine if your favorite nail salon now started doing mens foot massages in the same store. My bet is most women would find somewhere more comfortable, since theyd want their own space.

Sure; men have it rough, but so do women. You complain about not being able to court a woman because you aren’t a “chad” or weren’t “blessed” with “superior” genetics and deem a woman wrong for wanting perfection, yet create posts like this. Is that a contradiction or a double standard? Hypocrisy perhaps?

What are you talking about? Ive dated and gotten with fire girls, and that is not an issue, and it isnt for a lot of people here. The issue is dealing with the princess-syndrome that is prevalent these days. Girls all think they are hot shit, and it is no surprise, since social media makes them think they are something they are not. I am friends with plenty of girls, and even they are not stupid enough to deny it. Attention corrupts people, and even below-average girls have endless attention.

“Red flags?” Tattoos ... father issues ... dyed hair? A woman having dyed hair and tattoos will land you jail time? You’re overreacting snowflake.

A women who has tattoos or dyes her hair wacky colors is an exhibitionist. It means they like thrills, and have bad decision making skills. Add to that the emotional nature of women, and you now have a person who makes impulsive decisions, which are often poor. I dare you to tell me that the girls you know who have tattoos or dye their hair crazy colors are more emotionally stable on average. I dare you to tell me they are less promiscuous. Everyone loves to defend them because of PC culture, but the truth is, people who do eccentric things are, guess what, eccentric.

You men build the perfect woman in your head then get mad when no woman on this planet reaches your unachievable standards. But we’re wrong for wanting someone 6ft? Or at the very least someone good looking? I’d say the biggest red flag in regards to a woman dating a man would be this. A man who gets on reddit and creates a list of “requirements” a woman must reach in order to be considered dateable.

This is your hamster talking. Asking for a girl who doesnt make a mockery of her body is much different than asking a man to be 2 inches taller. The fact that you even compare those two things is why dating is shit these days. This guy outlined the basic requirements of being a decent human being. Women’s lists are an outline of some genetic fantasy.

Ever ask yourself why almost every man who creates posts like these are single, and have been single for the majority of their lives?

No, because tons of these guys posts are made after having fucked hot girls or had LTR’s. Do your research next time.

[–]Heathcliff-- 1 points1 points [recovered]

Its a tragedy whenever I see a beautiful young girl ruined by a stupid fucking cringey tattoo. How can they be so daft to not realise they're permanently damaging the most important thing they own...

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 41 points42 points  (2 children)

I've never seen a woman with a tattoo and said "Oh, that tattoo makes her even better looking"

But the opposite has been true hundreds of times. Especially when using something like Tinder. You swipe through her photos and she is definite right swipe material, but then boom, photo that shows some ugly tattoo on there and its a left swipe for me, no exceptions.

The thought process is easy to explain, though. Women find tattoos on men attractive, and that therefore, they think men must find tattoos on women attractive, so they get tattoos to try and appeal to men. That's not how it works.

Women do that all the time though. They think that qualities/behaviors they find attractive in men, that men must also find attractive in woman, so they emulate all these masculine behaviors.

[–]diggrecluse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me it's nose/lip rings in Tinder, instant turn off. Followed by tattoos, blue lipstick, etc. It's just so unfortunate because these girls are willingly making themselves look unattractive and masculine.

[–]Tenth_10 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I dunno man. Given that women are very centered on their bodies, I see tatoos as an experience, a statement come from a nervous bad time, and a defiance to their age ("I'll be old enough" and "I'm not old yet!"). And once they have one done, the others are easier, and they are starting to pile up.

[–]lapeparoja 26 points27 points  (3 children)

I used to think like that. Now I get excited, why? Because it is a clear indication of : herd-following behaviour, lack of long term planning, impulsiveness, narcicism, all good signs of an easy lay.

Of course not all people who have tattoos are like that, but if combined with piercing and other stuff it increases the probability of her being a dumb slut. Delicious.

I even have some success offering to pay for a new tattoo, getting the lay and then ghost . Try it. You wont save any girl. And at least 99% are open to have a tatoo, or a piercing nowadays, the young crowd, and the post-wall crowd. So take advantage.

[–]2CasaDeFranco 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand the logic but TRP is best used not for easy lays, easy lays are easy and I'd often prefer to masturbate and then go for a run then invest time with a thot.

[–]falconpush 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Somehow, going to the clinic to counterbalance this kind of behavior doesnt make it sound enticing.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Personally, I've been with girls that had really well done tatoos and I thought it was sexy. Not saying I like tramp stamps or anything.

[–]WarViper1337 14 points15 points  (1 child)

My rule of thumb is each tattoo represents one psychotic break she has probably had.

[–]Tenth_10 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That... is actually not a bad theory you have here. Combine that with the theme of the tatoo and you got yourself a lead.

[–]CNaSG 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I think a few tasteful tattoos is fine, maybe a body piercing or two. There is definitely a point beyond which it is fucking cringy. I knew a girl who tattooed "the only thing worth living for is the only thing worth dying for" ALL across her abdomen. Her and her sister got the same one and that was cute and all but still...

[–]Andgelyo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Dumbest fucking tattoo I’ve ever heard of in my life lmao and at the stomach of all places

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 41 points42 points  (10 children)

16 is a big one, so much to where I don't even bother with them anymore.

Several times I've tried to make exceptions to girls with tattoos, and each time it backfires. For me its my red flag of red flags.

If its a small tattoo on her foot or something, that's different. But if its bigger than the size of a quarter above her ankles, pass.

Trust me on this one, guys.

If you want to plate or ONS them, go ahead, but I don't even bother with that anymore. Women with tattoos don't even get my attention.

Number 2 is also a big one. The thing is most women won't tell you this directly, it will be implied through subtext, context and her actions. The problem with these women is that they are a bit clingy off the bat, and don't respond well to you passing shit tests. They are so paranoid about being hurt and heartbroken, that anything that remotely hints at you doing such a thing, they'll either play victim or break things off. These women are too insecure for anything to work out with them. Unless you treat them like a fucking princess day in and day out, they will bail and make you out to be the bad guy, BUT the problem is when you treat them like a princess day and and day out, they will lose attraction to you and bail anyway. Lose-lose, avoid.

[–]betabran 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Number 2 is also a big one..... they will lose attraction to you and bail anyway. Lose-lose, avoid.

You really have to witness it to believe it. None of my blue mates understand what I have been through.

[–]ahg1008 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Totally agree.. Run away if you see Number 2.. She could be hot as fuck or she could give you a billion dollars.. Run!!! Either that or marry that bitch and act surprised when you get cancer later on because of all the stress.

[–]Killing__Time_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd do it for a billion dollars. That money will pay for the tech to unfuck my brain, and some left over for a nice life later. \s

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Nothing is a bigger turn off than seeing a 18-21 year old blonde hair blue eyes sorority-type girl with those huge compass tattoos on their backs on those open-back shirts

[–]SKRedPill 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Strange how female insecurity creates the very monster its afraid of. I have a theory that the innermost thought in your mind is always the one that ends up coming true.

[–]aidas2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, with number 2 you just described my exGF down to the t. Nothing I've done, no matter how much I tried to help her mattered. There was always something that bothers her about me no matter what I do, no matter how many shit tests I pass and how much I do for her, some small insignificant thing will always fire her off like there's no tomorrow. Could literally change from sunshine and rainbows loves me to no end to an ice cold bitch claiming I don't care about her due to some small thing I've did in like 6 hours.

I'm not even mad, I find that amazing actually.

[–]BurnoutRS 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This is fucking interesting. Ive only ever fucked a tattooed girl and then nothing after that.

Im starting to think that my more beta self was drawn towards edgier, masculine traits in women like piercings, tattoos etc. because I was so milquetoast and lacking in danger and excitment in my life. Those were things that I should have had plenty of if I was actually behaving like a young man and not like a beta billy. Instead, feeling that the source of my problems in life were not having a relationship, Its possible I began building a unicorn. This awesome rebel goth chick, all tatted out and whatever the fuck and we'd just be grimy, crust punks, sid and nancy style shit.

The things im able to glamourize.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Betas are attracted to masculine features in women, and then get treated like a man by said women, and then wonder why their love life sucks.

[–]BurnoutRS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

because when she treats him the same way she'd treat an alpha, but he responds as a beta and things go terribly as we know...

Thanks for clearing things up for me

[–]hailsatanordie666 12 points13 points  (0 children)

LPT:

NEVER NEVER EVER DATE A GIRL WITH BPD.

Doesn’t even matter how good she is in bed.

Nope.

Neverrr again

[–]CaptZ 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Add to #16: unnatural hair coloring, blue, pink, lavender and such, applies mostly if they are a parent or over 30.

Edit to add: most of the traits also line up with people with Borderline/Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

[–]Ezaar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But colors are cool though lol

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (4 children)

So you’re going MGTOW then?

1 Is a standard shit test treat it like one.

2,4,5,8 make her easier to emotionally manipulate and control if you’ve properly cultivated your dark triad.

10 Women are instinctively passive aggressive. Ignore it.

11 Is a shit test to see if you are faking your alpha. Amused mastery. Of course I’m shit testing you. So what?

12 Is a shit test to see if you’re an emotional tampon. Treat it like one.

13 Is a shit test. Don’t compete with her, dominate her. Her little need to compete is a stupid little game to your amused mastery.

14 Good luck finding a girl not addicted to something. The trick is figuring out what and figuring out if you can live with it.

This list seems like you’re still very purple in your approach.

[–]casemodz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Can you elaborate on shit tests? How can I give them out? How do I look for them?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Refer to the sidebar, under “References”.

[–]Sumshot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think most of what you say is correct. But I think you partly misunderstood the intentions of OP. A shit test is not a shit a test. There are different types - and some of them raise the probability that a LTR won't work out much more than others. He listed the "bad" ones.

[–]lapeparoja 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Men DO NOT shit test women. Stop with the notion that every concept has an equivalent in the other sex. It smells of indoctrination at school. So NO, Men do not: -Shit test -Hamster past relationship/sex -Have Hypergamy -Have AFBB -Have "friendships" with attractive females

And women dont:

  • Become alpha -Improve their SMV with age (especially past 30)
  • Think about deep topics, etc , etc

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Men DO NOT shit test women.

Glad someone mentioned it. My reaction to that bullet point was something like lol wut?

[–]REBANXZA -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why shouldn’t a woman become alpha?

[–]ahg1008 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Could someone explain the too many male friends red flag?

[–]Tenth_10 5 points6 points  (0 children)

IMHO girl is only looking for validation, and has a lot of orbiters OR she is insecure because of past traumas and is looking to protect herself with her "knights".

[–]DannyShittu 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Just commenting so I get notified when answered

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You won't get notified brah

[–]BurnoutRS 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I second validation whore. Theres a point where the satisfaction of one dude being there in real life is never going to equal that dopamine flood she gets from seeing the 1200 unread messages from tinder or whatever.

Women value social standing and reputation highly because its key to their survival. So its easy as shit for her to become dependant on that massive validation sphere, so much so that you'll literally be competing with her phone. People who let themselves get sucked into that kind of shit seem to have a whole slew of other problems stemming from an absolute lack of impulse control

[–]Solipsistic_guy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I third, when I see a chick who has 5000 male followers on insta all commenting that she’s awesome, but no real friends...it makes me cringe

[–]mythrowawayletsplay 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Doesn't know how to apologize properly - this in my opinion is the worst! A proper apology is a very specific formula. Acknowledging your slight or wrong, apologizing for said slight, showing that you are genuinely remorseful of your actions, and making whatever changes in character that are needed to avoid repeated slights.

[–]Thegymismyhome 1 points1 points [recovered]

I think that some of these red flags come from reflection of these traits from ourselves.

Do you think that you attract what you are?

[–]diggrecluse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is a good list but you have to consider what you're going for:

  • If you're just trying to get laid/spin plates, the type of girls you encounter will have at least some and likely a lot of these. These red flags will make it easier to fuck them.
  • Women with few or none of these red flags do exist. They're either living in a foreign country, or were raised in a conservative household with good parenting in a Western country. But the flipside is that they will expect you to see them for a long time before sex and expect a serious relationship.

[–]FOODYUMONION 7 points8 points  (1 child)

So basically every girl on Tinder

[–]DONTuseGoogle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Uh yeah. Tinder is for fucking full stop.

[–]DareDiablo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Piercings and Tattoos?

Oh shut the fuck up. Seriously. So because a woman has them it's one thing but when a man does its another.

The double standards here is pathetic.

[–]Sumshot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What double standards? I think if a woman searches a man to become the father of her children and care for them well, she will (statistically) have better chances with a man without tattoos.

EDIT: let me clarify. I mean that tattoos on men are statistically an anti BP red flag - which means more trouble for the woman to handle her man and manipulate him easily.

[–]SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It might seem like all girls have some of these, which may be true, but this is still really informative and can help you see some signs that you wouldn't have otherwise noticed. This writeup also helps you see WHY girls do some of the things they do. I learned a lot here. Thank you.

[–]BurnoutRS 17 points18 points  (7 children)

Im interested in what you said about tattoos. I love girls with tattoos but i've interpreted that part of the post as saying "theres no way that a girl would get a tattoo unless she is, in some way, damaged"

As an artist I feel that tattooing my own art on my body (if I ever do get a tattoo) is like the ultimate form of self expression. Decorating myself. Currently im holding off until I max out my physique. I dont wanna get a tattoo and then have it be all blown out as I continue to see size gains.

Im gonna tuck this one into my hat and keep a closer eye on any chicks with tats. Lmao some of this is definitely the BP in me being "what? you say my tattoo waifu unicorn doesnt exist? I cant have a perfect relationship with a suicide girl because to be a suicide girl you probably have to have psychological issues"

But as Im generally super into tattoos and piercings RP me is like "shit I better make sure im not fetishizing something thats a definite marker of crazy" anyways I have no intention of getting married so at worst its going to be a factor in deciding whether to keep a plate around or not

[–]TRP_TEX 1 points1 points [recovered]

I dont wanna get a tattoo and then have it be all blown out as I continue to see size gains

I got sleeves when I was 21. Since then I've gone from 11" arms to 15.5" and I don't have any stretch marks on my tattoos. One little line on a rose on my bicep. Food for thought.

[–]PullSumoEatAss 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That's good to hear, I'm waiting to get tattoos for the same reason. Are your tattoos all still proportional?

[–]1dongpal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

women only do arts when they are damaged. it's kind of therapy for them.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Tattoos represent risky decision making without long term thinking/planning, which is inherently a masculine trait. Women need to be feminine, not emulate men.

[–]BurnoutRS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is good. I need to look into this area more because its revealing some BP shit in me. Theres this part of me saying "but art girls are deep dude" Just gotta remind myself of the anchor, the feather and the dream catcher. Every fucking girl in my highschool that got their first tattoo and was showing it off had either a feather, an anchor or a fucking dream catcher. They were all so deep, so unique... lmao

[–]1Jaereth 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Quick side note about "Vague about her past"

I've met a stone cold bitch once that literally had a backstory made up for her past. Must have been rehearsed. Was nowhere near the truth.

If you are dating and you find out someone has told a lie to you about their past, game over. Dump them right there on the spot.

  1. You should have enough respect for yourself to do that anyway. You can't say out of one side of your mouth you love someone and then lie to them about something serious

  2. These women are always trainwrecks. The kind where everyone standing near the train when it wrecks is going to catch some shrapnel too.

Even if she's not vague about her past, if something sounds really odd or fishy, check it. If she's lying to you, ghost her.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Haha I agree with some but 16 is a little ridiculous in my opinion. Come on we are human every human follow some kind of trend. In my country I would say 8/10 women in my generation got at least a small tattoo, as well as the dudes.

[–]anonusernametaken 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yup. Everyone I date has a tattoo and I have one and will get more. Tattoo alone is not a red flag. Focus on their actions to find red flags.

[–]Seven_Veils 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Piercings and tattoos are red flags now?!? Those are my turn ons

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the Red Pill buddy.

[–]Sumshot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Red flag doesn't mean it's 100% guaranteed doom. It's just making the probability higher. So if a girl has no red flags besides a tattoo, chances are good that she is on the bright side. But when you compare two girls which are equal otherwise except for tattoos, statistically speaking the one without a tattoo is the better choice (except for you being turned on...).

[–]Andgelyo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would say the amount of tattoos is important. One or two is fine. Whole body? 7 or more? Visible to the public? Then you might have a problem (visible tattoos may signal to other men that she’s easy).

[–]iLoveReddit32 7 points8 points  (0 children)

In my experience, girls with tattoos, piercings, (or often both), sleep around A LOT. This isn't a negative in itself (everyone likes sex), but one needs to be aware of what they are getting themselves into when they are about to fuck a chick with piercings, tattoos. Also, those type of girls are often feminists, which IS a problem.

[–]DimensionalQuake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not really seeing #16 as being helpful. There are plenty of tattoos that people get just because they look cool. Other than following a trend, the other signals discussed seem completely unrelated to tattoos and piercings.

[–]zan1101 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd argue tattoos these days are no indicator of a red flag, plenty of people make educated concise decisions to get tattoos and simply enjoy the aesthetic and are perfectly normal people.

[–]faithfamilyfootball 3 points4 points  (1 child)

5 isn’t necessarily true.

Not all of them really are. I have a great relationship right now with a girl who’s dad is terrible. They don’t speak but she actively works on making herself better and being good to me.

[–]Tak291 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Someone is afraid of women? Come on, you are describing every women in this century.

[–]seraphine288 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All you are is a sexist, misogynistic asshole with too much privilege to see how fucked up you are. Most of your points are complete and utter bullshit. You want to bash women for "having a list of demands" and "looking for perfection" while writing an impossible list of demands that require perfection??? I'm not surprised you're single. And good luck with that. You'd be better off dating bitter, rotten men like yourself. Only a woman with no self respect and SEVERE issues would date you.

[–]Hydrobobo 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Really, tattoos? Instantly took a lot of credit away from this list. I have tattoos because I like to represent my heritage and my past on my body. Does that make me undatable? No

[–]underground_gamblr 5 points6 points  (0 children)

While I wouldn't like to have one; I as well don't understand why it's on the list. It's just an appearance accessory.

[–]trppr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Heritage OK, but past on your body? That sounds like something a chick says. Anyhow report back on this one in 40 years when your skin is droopy and wrinkly. Gonna look great!

[–]DareDiablo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So what? We all get old anyway so why does it matter what the outside appearance looks like?

[–]six-bible 11 points12 points  (5 children)

I can see most, but I disagree with #5 and #6.

5 - problems with Daddy

A lot of humans/ men are complete fuck ups. They're losers or crooks or assholes or idiots or pedophiles or drunks or who knows. This includes some dads. Irrelevant in my opinion. This sounds more like some Shaman nonsense than reality. And I've never been in a relationship where the girl I was pounding was treating me like "Daddy." Maybe your experience differs.

6 - Is a feminist.

I say this one depends. There's a difference between a purple-haired SJW rager, and a girl who thinks she should have the right to vote and not be groped, etc. There are so many different definitions of feminist that it's almost meaningless. If you're writing off a girl for this reason alone, well I think you care too much. I'm rarely discussing ANY political bullshit with a girl and that's the way I like it.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove -1 points0 points  (2 children)

A lot of humans/ men are complete fuck ups. They're losers or crooks or assholes or idiots or pedophiles or drunks or who knows. This includes some dads. Irrelevant in my opinion. This sounds more like some Shaman nonsense than reality. And I've never been in a relationship where the girl I was pounding was treating me like "Daddy." Maybe your experience differs.

This is where practicing abundance matters. Once you've been with several women and slept with many, you'll learn. I've never had things end well with a girl who had daddy issues, ever. Shit will always hit the fan at some point. You'll know this once you've been able to practice abundance.

[–]six-bible 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everyone has some degree of daddy issues. I had one who's dad was always having medical issues and complaining to her and shit.

Meh. I honestly don't think it matters two shits. It's an old-wives tale. Hey, if you dislike that, fine --- more women for me.

I don't let "other men" including a girl's "Daddy" dictate my behavior. Not every girl is going to have a dad who's sane, financially solvent, happy, not riddled with health problems ... etc. You're wishing for a Disney Unicorn at that point.

And you're letting another man dictate your behavior.

[–]bloodymexican 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if she never had a father (abandoned child) only a mother?

[–]Killing__Time_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm also ambivalent about #6. I'll make an exception for those who don't want to force their ideals on me, although these ideals must be within my tolerance limits from the get go.

[–]youngzari 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Number 10.

That really hit me because it applies to men, too. In my BP days I use to "let things slide" and "bottle up" all my issues with people that I never and should have addressed head on. This would lead to disrespect and not having any boundaries.

I actually expect passive aggression from women (in mild forms) from time to time but that doesn't mean that it is tolerated. I'm always willing to walk away.

[–]WestyWorld 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s useful to look at these “risk factors” especially when a girl you are already seeing does something undesirable and you are reconsidering the relationship. But I am not a fan of using these as a screening tool because honestly every girl will have at least one or two red flags. Heck it’s probably a red flag if they don’t have any red flags.

If you screen too aggressively you may miss out on something worthwhile.

[–]hackersaq 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh, I see you've met my wife.

FML.

[–]TraditionalParty 1 points1 points [recovered]

It's a fucking nightmare out there, guys. I've gone on dates with girls that probably had all 18 red flags. I've started trying to pick up early-20s girls at church, and even then, it's too late. Tattoos, daddy issues, addictions, feminism, etc. They have it all. If you haven't locked down your high school sweetheart at 18, it's over boyos.

[–]Solipsistic_guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to give the same advice to everyone. Lock me before they realize their SMV. But now I’ve changed it to boost your SMV so high that nothing else matters haha

[–]eyewant 4 points5 points  (0 children)

5 shouldnt count sometimes. There are men who abandon their wife and kids, so I don't blame people for resenting them. Now if his leaving was a divorce initiated by the wife then thats a different story.

[–]Niphilim83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldnt date a girl without tattoos.. Big turn on for me.. Rest is so true tho.

[–]ICanHeal 1 points1 points [recovered]

#19 - Owning Dogs. Single women with dogs often have an attachment disorder or narcissistic tendencies that make them unsuitable or unsuccessful with human relationships. While owning a dog isn’t intrinsically a bad thing, they are often misused as a substitute for human relationships or barrier to bonding with men.

[–]DouglasPR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. If I visit a woman and her dog(s)/cat(s) has human privileges (allowed to sit on the couch, sleep up on the beds, etc) or is spoiled like a baby, its a red flag for me. Multiple cats or dogs everywhere in the house are also a big nope for me.

[–]jadchronicles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i strongly disagree with #16. body art is a form of self-expression. that is not to say that what is mentioned in #16 COULD be true, but body art is not a direct or reliable indicator for these things. just my 2 cents

[–]BeeBopJoe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bullet point #7 "having no sense of humor" is the reason which I don't date a woman I haven't originally met in person before. I went on a date with a chick through a friend who I never spoke to before, the date was awkward as fuck. She didn't laugh or smile not once. Having a good sense of humor is mandatory for girls I date, especially since I am a huge clown.

[–]ttt911 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Does purple/pink hair go in the #16. Piercings and Tattoos?

I swear to go all the girls I've dated that did this had REAL mental issues. At this point if I see a girl with pink hair I avoid her as the plague!

[–]Red_Vegetta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right!? Any streaks or neon or any unnatural color in her hair is a red flag for poor mental health.

[–]VictxrSenpai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good to know that describes a good 80% of women living in this country

[–]ImperialEquivalent 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another huge red flag: horse girls.

You’ll only ever be third priority at best. Number one is always the horse, two is her source of funds for the horse.

And god help you if you ever move into the number two spot.

[–]sillyhumins 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Whooooa what a trash ass post. Dude just because you can't get any doesn't mean you gotta make a whole list of reasons to justify "not wanting any", you're lying to yourself gtfo. You made SOME good points, like femism is a no-go, but a lot of this is way exessive and wtf bullshit waste of time.

[–]Wilreadit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

19. Single mommas baby mommas

The thing is, even with all the 'equal to men' tirades, life is still very hard for a woman. That is because for most of her life someone takes care of her. Parents, siblings, dates, bfs..whomever. For a woman who has lived in a bubble for so long, and convinced by her own lies, life is tough. And trying to raise kids, is tougher. They feel miserable as they feel someone should be there to take care of them. Never underestimate the will of a single mom to trap a guy. Be extra careful.

20. Avoid the crazies.

For the love of God and all that you hold dear: DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH CRAZY WOMEN. The ones worth mentioning here are BPD, ASPD, compulsive liars and girls that have impulse control. I point these out as these are the ones that are really damaging to you if you happened to be dating a sufferer. Sure a chick with depression or schizo is no fun but she won't actively hunt you down. The other chicks will. They will destroy your life, your reputation and your peace of mind. And dear dickholders, nothing is worth your peace of mind.

[–]walkinginsquares 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This describes my past ex gf perfectly. Glad I left her but now I miss all the countless fun sex sessions with that promiscuous girl. :(

[–]johnyann 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Do not date women that have been raised in western first world countries. It's very simple.

My girlfriend is Colombian. Has one thing here, and it's a tattoo, and she has one, which isn't visible, and is a matching one she got with her sister right before she left for the States for school.

Im never going back to American women. Not now, not ever. No Way. Hell, we've been together for a year and it's been fantastic. Seriously considering putting a ring on this one.

[–]Andgelyo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Be careful. I’ve heard of out of the country women branch swinging to the next gringo. Bottom line is that no one is safe.

[–]xRaiden99x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Colombian women can be tricky hopefully you got a girl raised with good family values because there are bad apples too but majority are ok. Unfortunately latin america is changing because they always want to copy europe/usa and femenism is big nowadays.

[–]volvostupidshit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha just update us 5-10 years later once you got him out of her country.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

None of this matters if you are spinning plates and you are not afraid to gtfo and next her if you see signs of trouble. It's as easy as blocking someone's number.

[–]poo4 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Gotta add in red flag jobs/lifestyles:

  • LMT (massage)
  • bartender
  • "student" when they are 30+
  • No job / on disability with no real disability

[–]Solipsistic_guy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Single mom, largest red flag of all.

[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is an excellent post. I'd give you a point... but I checked your history. Seriously, get the fuck out of nofap. This isn't to take a stance on fapping. It's just the religious zealotry of those guys is not healthy. Do it if you feel you should, but don't rely on the nofap community. They ain't healthy either.

Anyways, pointers on this post.

She’s Passive-Aggressive

This point was kind of a meh point. Passive-aggressiveness is inherently feminine and it's how women actually display any aggressive feelings. (They do it in a passive manner.) Pretty much all women will do this at one point or another, you just need to manage it and it'll reduce to almost nothing over time.

11. She Gets Defensive When You Shit Test Her

I don't really get this shit testing of women thing. I never have. We can't beat biology guys. I get that it's in our interest to be the choosers by having multiple women lined up who have chosen us... but we're not the selecting gender. We don't shit test or piss about playing games to decide who we want. We know what we're doing, we have our plan and the bitch either comes for the ride or she doesn't. Anything involving testing her implies that her being part of this ride is important. - This is the wrong attitude. If dumb bitch don't want to be on the ride then that's her loss. I don't need to figure out if she wants to join my ride... the evaluation process begins with her already wanting to be on this ride.

16. Piercings and Tattoos

I saw a chick getting her hair dyed neon pink as I was leaving the hairdressers with my slick do all perfected... she looked at me with a yearning in her eyes. She wanted me to notice her. I looked away in total disgust for good reason. Attractive, mentally balanced women do not need to go out of their way to look different.

Gentlemen, if these women make advances on you, make your disgust clear. It is in their best interests that these bitches learn that their appearance and behaviour is not attractive to good, attractive men.

Other than those comments, crack on son.

[–]CocoaPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad to see it's not just me thinking most women have at least one of these... Relating from experience, dating a girl who has a bad relationship with her dad is a tough cookie; they will tend to push back on your authority with a variety of ways even if they are not feminists.

[–]dudethatneversleeps 1 points1 points [recovered]

Some valid points (daddy issues and talking shit) mixed in with some very bad points (coffee addiction and tattoos really?).
For the newbies on this sub, take this post with a grain of salt. And most importantly, learn how to filter the bs from the truth. This applies not only to this post but to the sub in general. Not everything you read is good advice.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This sub has many many shit tests, and 95%+ filled with larpers...

[–]1TRPKiddo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wow. This list is so accurate and pertains to my exes so well that it actually scares me.

[–]volvostupidshit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Creepy, right? It's almost as if the NSA has been watching us the whole time.

[–]Aggressive_Beta 2 points3 points  (2 children)

A woman who has a list of what she wants in a man is a woman who has been around the block so many times that she knows exactly what she wants and what she doesn’t want. These women more than likely have high N counts and are possibly alpha widowed and looking for a beta. Avoid at all costs.

She’s a feminist

I consider this to be more of a yellow flag than a red flag. Even hardcore feminists will ignore some of the most “misogynistic” behavior if you’re alpha enough and give them tingles. AWALT. Just treat feminism like the shit test it is and you’ll be fine. You’ll get called an asshole, which is really a compliment coming from women. By not being a feminist you are taking on the role of the rebel bad boy that she knows on an intellectual level she shouldn’t be attracted to, but her pussy begs to differ.

Plus if you feel like being a douche bag you can just intellectually destroy feminism right to her face with logic and it might make her angry or even cry. Which will make her want to fuck you even more.

[–]Sumshot -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Even hardcore feminists will ignore some of the most “misogynistic” behavior if you’re alpha enough and give them tingles.

So? If you are good enough and the girl thinks you are god then you can do literally *anything* and she can be *anything* it doesn't matter, she will give in for you.

However, you are probably not god and even if you are: the chances that you will stay god in her eyes forever are extremely low. And the question is, how fast and how intense will she react to that? There's a difference between a girl getting some space or even "waiting" for you to recover from whatever happend and a girl that makes rape claims, badmouthes you, steals, becomes violent and persuades her orbiters to hunt you down the second something doesn't seem to work out from her perspective.

[–]maniac1168 2 points3 points  (2 children)

1 red flag when dating in general:

Referring to the opposite gender with either male or female.

[–]superz1k 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What is she is a feminist but doesn't do all the things you listed?

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 3 points4 points  (1 child)

She does. Welcome to the Red Pill. Feminist is a red flag of red flags.

I get it, though. We have so many video game anime nerds pass through here at TRP who desperately want to game those "cool gamer girl anime nerd geek chicks" instead of the typical basic bitch. I get it. Most of those "cool gamer girl anime nerd geek chicks" also tend to be liberal feminists as well, so you are trying to hamster away all these things because of your oneitis.

[–]Sumshot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of those "cool gamer girl anime nerd geek chicks" also tend to be liberal feminists as well

Maybe depends on location but I can't agree with this. There might be more feminists within this group, but not even close to _most_ of them. Also, a lot of these only want to get attention, they are not really into feminism like real SJWs. However, the attention thriving ones among them are also quite bad, as it's also a red flag.

[–]desanar1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me Number 15 is the biggest buzzkill ..

[–]Austin6403 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If youre looking for a girl who has 0/18 youre looking for a unicorn. She doesnt exist. While most of what was said is generally good, it should be determined on a case by case basis with broad utilization

[–]Dargalo04 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's the point then lmao . We will deal with AWALT till we all die anyway.

[–]Solipsistic_guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quality post my dude ! It narrows down LTR options to about 1% of the female population. I just try not to care when I’m dating. Smash that kitty cat regardless but when you’re thinking long term partnership, most don’t deserve it.

[–]throatslasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree, except with #5, sometimes fathers are awful and it doesn't damage the woman. A woman can have a bad father and not be fucked up.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

man, why the fuck do you, remove this stuff! it's only 13 hours old FFS. SOME OF US LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD AND WE WILL BE ASLEEP!

[–]M_Hamza 0 points1 point  (1 child)

#5. She Has a Bad Relationship with Her Father

what if her father died when she was a child (aka. absent)

[–]volvostupidshit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't have a bad relationship with a dead person. Jesus. What's wrong with you?

[–]trppr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the psychological insights.

I didn't understand the connection to tattoos and this:

she’s hiding herself because she’s afraid of intimacy (red flag).

Wondering if you could elaborate. I know it seems self explanatory, but it's something I've never considered and trying to understand this fear of intimacy thing and how it's expressed in tattoos of all things.

[–]RompeChocha 0 points1 point  (1 child)

99% of women have 1 or more of these traits.

[–]volvostupidshit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women having 1- 3 of these traits may be acceptable.

[–]TRPconverter 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Jesus christ, I just started fucking a chick and she has at least 7/18 of red flags that I know of. Is this list meant only for relationships of FWB's as well?

[–]volvostupidshit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just fuck her and don't upgrade.

[–]feldmaresciallo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find some things very true but I don’t think tattoos are something bad mate.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try to find me 15 girls that aren’t addicted to social media/staring at their phone lol impossible

[–]SKRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where's the point about BPD?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Number 4 and 10 could be considered a very regular types of behaviour for virtually all women so I don't think putting it in the list makes sense.

Number 11 could be applied to men as well.

Number 13 - What's exactly wrong with women being competitive in a world where significance of pure physical strength declines with each new invention? And also, why would you think that a woman would need to "drag the man down to her level" in order to compete with him?

Number 14 - You have addictions too.

[–]flowernipple 0 points1 point  (1 child)

damn coming from a woman with most of these problems what are yall's advice on changing uncontrollable habits and bad traits?

[–]volvostupidshit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nada. It is really sad that we have come so far and yet we still cannot defeat the urges of nature.

[–]casemodz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can anyone elaborate or give see examples of #11? Possibly some stuff I can do?

[–]Nancypants26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What does "Gynocentric" mean?

[–]Nancypants26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course this is the " I hate Women " discussion.

[–]SICFJC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely disagree with the tattoo part.

Maybe people just like tattoos and think they're cool?

[–]TRP_TEX 1 points1 points [recovered]

How would you shit test a woman back?

[–]Tenth_10 0 points1 point  (3 children)

You should search that on Youtube, there is some material there.

[–]TRP_TEX 1 points1 points [recovered]

There's a lot of information for free on the internet, the answer of google it or youtube it is very broad because albeit there is so much free information, about 80% of it is false. I'll check it out. Thanks.

[–]Tenth_10 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Fair point. Here's to get you started : https://youtu.be/zCaX3BIijT0

[–]A_regular_lamp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Number one is particularly great. I also especially enjoyed number one.

[–]PerplexingPegasus_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You should definitely put lack of phone use. Most of time when women say they’re trying to stay off social media or anything like that they have done something they can’t bare the guilt of. Incognito mode for a women in age of easy attention is a tell sign she screwed up but won’t come to terms with it.

[–]bone_shadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of these are spot on. But I would say every female in the world exhibits one or two of these behaviours, it's really no big deal. However if they are showing 5 or more it's a no go.

However I Majorly disagree with the tattoos and piercings one. Plenty of people have body mods or tats simply because it looks cool or art is one of their passions. I'm covered myself and I think it's sexy as fuck when a girl has a lot of ink like me.

[–]Whyyoualwayshatin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a great list and simultaneously reminds me that I don’t know a single woman without at least 1 of these red flags lol

[–]royrivers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about attending 5 support groups (and spending dozens of hour every week in support meetings)? How red is that?

[–]lagerea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My girl has 5 of the 18, still objectively better than 99% of the bitches crossing my path and that genuinely makes me sad.

[–]goldenhourlivin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haven’t even made it through red flag #4 yet and they all apply to >90% of women I meet.

[–]Romerike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great descriptive post. Best I've read in a while and made me review some things past and present

[–]VillagersUnite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its posts like these that make me wish I discovered red pill sooner and that I wished I just discussed my relationship with my dad sooner. Back in high school my first girlfriend dropped the love bomb on me 2 weeks in. 2 weeks! I understand it's high school but even during that time I was turned all the way off when I heard that. I barely knew this girl let alone love her. I should've listened to my gut when the red flag went waving. But I wanted to "make it work" because it was my first. Never again.

[–]Goljuf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My ex had red flag #2. After i broke up with her she started to bang my (now ex) best friend. So i confirm that part below

if you leave me, i will make a scene and ruin your life.

[–]AbsoIum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it would be hard to find someone that doesn’t hit at least a few of these. Like the girl I’m dating now only hits on two of these (I feel pretty lucky about that) and they are minor in my eyes. There is a level of compromise that has to occur, in my opinion. A good list/criteria nonetheless and very concise.

[–]pcgfm 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What's wrong with having a caffeine addiciton?

[–]Xoramung 1 points1 points [recovered]

Can they go 2 hours without drinking their fix? if not, that's not a strong character trait.

[–]pcgfm 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm a guy. Sometimes I can drink 2/3 expressos daily. Nothing wrong with that.

[–]JablesRadio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm an American who is currently dating a Venezuelan woman and she pretty well passes every single flag in this post. I have no doubt that where she co,es from is a huge factor in her values. There is hope fellow RPs.

[–]jewishsupremacist88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TL;DR avoid most middle and lower class women.

[–]URNANcrespo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What can I do to leave this bitch who said she’d ruin my life if I leave her?? #2

[–]volvostupidshit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Act like you are a needy beta bitch so she will branch swing and leave you alone.

[–]ljozmo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that this was 18 flags and you used the number 1 to list all of them has me so triggered rn.

[–]AutoProblematic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

#5 is #1 for me; also, if she has a good relationship with her father, but he is weak, meaning she or her mother wear the pants, stay the fuck away

#16; I've noticed that the closer the tattoos get to her head and face, the more bat-shit insane they become.

#7; I don't hold that against them as I don't think "regular" women (i.e.: not professional comedians) are all that funny; for me, if they don't laugh at my jokes, that's a deal breaker.

[–]sciew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree with the feminist one. Who gives a shit what them think, they're the easiest lay of them all.

[–]dabombers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Found this post while listening to Jordan Peterson ‘Why Women REALLY Reject Men’ on Youtube. What a case for brain freeze and mental overload if I have ever found one. But as we all know life is full of contradictions. Personally I have spent the last 6 months mourning my last relationships end. 7 yrs long, Engaged, planning kids, building family home, marriage etc.
As the shit between us got real so did the increasing rate of ‘shit tests’ increase. I wasn’t her first serious relationship. One previous marriage from 18 to 20. One engagement and child 20-23. Then single time. Then me 27-34. I note the ages for her as I now see myself as the sperm donor and lucky I came out alive. I started the relationship as an alpha but quickly got pussy whipped and found out I had become a beta boy and that quickly became the beginning of the end. My own dissatisfaction with being beta-fied, became our own power struggle. Though it was really the self-sacrifices I was making in my own life for our mutual life that became our downfall. Stayed in Jobs I was unhappy with for too long, took jobs to pay the bills. Instead on continuing my journey which started before I met her, I stopped still,stopped growing and taking risks and stagnated. I became something I despised.
Not Good!! But after some personal study and research I am back on the greater path and couldn’t be more at peace. Note: Im sick of people saying they are happier or whatever that is all subjective. Being at peace and comfortable in ones own skin is so much more a worthy cause to chase and attain.

Reason that I’m replying my tell all in this post is my realisation of the tick list my former partner exhibits from this post. And boy did I get a hamburger with the lot. 9 major and another 4-5 in the minor scale!! And none were evident early in the relationship, hidden well but looking back, I should have had better awareness and my own tests to scope these behaviours out.
Lets get things straight I am not without my own flaws but when you become the beta and put her on a pedestal, that she is perfect so she must not have any flaws, I found myself suppressed and oppressed and depressed and by the time I woke up and tried to change the narrative it was too late. I was type-cast and fighting against this perception of who I am, “you used to be much nicer when we first met” she used to say and was met with resistance to almost all decisions where I might gain something from. How dare I gain something without sacrificing something for her first!! Lesson from this is always stick to your guns and be true to yourself and don’t fall for the feminine game theory, which women are much better trained at and have been playing a lot longer then most men would like to believe. Trust your gut guys, ‘It knows more about shit than our hearts and minds ever will’.......

[–]daemon86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is kind of useless because it's like a list of things I don't want anyway, not "red flags". Didn't need a list to not choose such a gf.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bravo.

My ex exhibits nearly all of these especially when it comes to responsibility. Saved.

[–]CaptainBW 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All women are adult children

[–]TheIceReaver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You kidding? You forgot the NUMBER ONE addiction these days!

SUGAR

[–]Xhaka-Laca -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great post, very accurate. We need more posts like this.

[–]RemyBucksington -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Brilliant. Direct, to-the-point, a mile above the usual unbalanced rhetoric we see on here.

[–]KoneBone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is why I subscribed. Great write up, thank you

[–]janicasod -1 points0 points  (0 children)

#25 Being promoted to man of the house.

If her family was poor and shit but she somehow manages to get a crappy/mediocre job which makes her financially better than them is a recipe for disaster.

The world has been rough to her and she has adapted. Her identity is locked to the breadwinner role and is pretty insecure because she's seem what happens when she doesn't behave that way and is generally judged worse off than other women who actually have the capacity to have good careers if they chose so.

Most of the women I knew in college who were pretty good in academics decided to trade up to high earning men , have kids , either quit the job or adapt to a secondary role . And it genuinely seems like they're happy.

Other women who I know who have mediocre/crappy jobs and who are very touchy and insecure about their identity seem quite bitchy have a lot of failed relationships and are divorced and are trying out the cat lady lifestyle. Some also seem to be coping by aggressively focusing on fitness.

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