Field ReportAlways save your text conversations, record conversations (self.TheRedPill)
submitted 1 year ago * by hiddenpleasures123
My friend was recently talking to a friend of his sister's on Facebook Messenger. They had planned to hang out. She then started getting really sexual. He ended up telling he wasn't looking for that at first and was no longer interested.(He's bluepill in some ways, hopeless romantic type)
Anyway, she didn't take kindly to rejection(AWALT) and ended up making a fake Facebook account pretending to be him. She messaged herself a bunch of fucked up stuff. Messages including; him begging for sex, him looking like a creep, threats of rape and harm and extremely sexual shit. She screenshots the messages, along with his Facebook profile and makes a post to spread "awareness" about him.
He finds out from his sister and many of his friends via them shaming him. Luckily, he had saved the messages and was able to show him rejecting her. She wasn't able to verify the messages were from his profile either. He cleared the air and his name with everybody. Now she's crying about invasion of privacy for him sharing the messages. She also is claiming he raped her(even though they have never met in person). LOL
Save your messages. Document everything. Record conversations in person with your phone(I always do this). Don't be a victim.
Update: He is deleting his Facebook and is now swallowing TRP.
[–][deleted] 249 points250 points251 points 1 year ago (46 children)
I actually have my phone automatically sync all my text messages with gmail for this exact reason.
6 years ago I dumped a LTR so she made some false rape accusations to get back at me. Now I record everything.
The last LTR I dumped (earlier this year) threatened to do that too, knowing how much the first one fucked me up. I basically told her "Good job, you know how to push my buttons. You also know how paranoid I am about that, and how I record everything. If you make your accusation, I'll publish every conversation we've had and let the world see how dishonest you are. It won't be my reputation that gets destroyed. Your move."
She decided to drop the threat.
[–]throwawaaay87 183 points184 points185 points 1 year ago (33 children)
Your mistake with bitch #2 was telling her your weakness. Don’t ever give women leverage.
[–]zboo1h 122 points123 points124 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This. Stop snitching on yourself.
[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 86 points87 points88 points 1 year ago (13 children)
Everyone has weaknesses, and women are evolutionarily wired to find them in men. Its amoral, it just is. They will eventually find some by trying many angles of attack over years.
So give fake weaknesses. Make honeypots. Lead her to believe you have insecurities you don't. When your girlfriend or wife is trying to destroy you and break you so she can convince herself to dump you or whatever then she will use it as the nuclear option and it wont work.
She will be furious at you because she lost power she thought she had over you. But eventually she will like you more because you are stronger than she thought.
If she screams "you lied you said you were insecure about X but you arent" then you say "but I am, what you are saying is hurtful and nasty" in an unemotional way. Eventually she will be arguing the case that you are stronger than you say you are and you will be denying it.
Display weakness when strong and strength when weak. Never tell anyone you are doing it though.
[–]expansion101 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Maybe even say "what you are saying is hurtful and nasty" with a smirk on your face. Would give away the whole allure for a one-time shot though.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Yeah youre right, it would expose your own hand. Part of the game of power is to lie so convincingly that you go into the lie with an actors mindset; to act as if you were really that person. So acting is so critical. Especially in a courtroom, if you are ever in one. Imagine what would happen if you smirked at the judge.
[–]Nocryingok 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Lol great post. This is called "balancing your range" in poker. Not exactly ALWAYS showing strength when weak or weakness when strenght, but doing so in a way that your opponent can't read you with confidence.
[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
This is very interesting to me, thank you. I'm going to read more about Balancing Your Range.
[–]Nocryingok 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Balancing your range (in poker) should only be done against an opponent that is good enough to evaluate the cards you play in a certain situation (your range) and then exploit you.
If an opponent is stupid and only thinks on a shallow level (ex. he bet therefore he must have a strong hand), then you should ignore balancing. This translates to dating: with stupid girls, your best action would be just pretend to be super alpha bro all the time, and they won't realize you're full of shit. But smarter girls will notice that you're being a tryhard.
[–]frooschnate 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This is my problem when I teach my friends poker and they start playing for a lil while.
They’re so aloof it’s hard to read them.
[–]RedPilledRoaster 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Is this shit even worth it. I just give plates a fake name and never have them over at my house, and only use snap
[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Its only for long term relationships. If you are sticking with plates then just get a new one when they are cruel.
[–]JunKunX 1 points1 points1 points 1 year ago [recovered]
You use a fake name on snap? You don’t use plates to boost Instagram preselection?
[–]fighter5021 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Literally Samson and Delilah. Just don't end up like Samson.
[–]FatStacks6969 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (2 children)
His mistake was dating a psycho who would even think of falsely accusing someone of rape. I've been in the game for while now and have never had a bad breakup because I didn't fuck bad people.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I learned my lesson few months ago got into a LTR with a girl with BDP. It’s usually the BPD who try to hit you with false rape. BPD girls are bad people even when they try to be good they’re bad.
I'm actually convinced both of them had undiagnosed BPD.
[–]1Zanford 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (3 children)
^ This is the cold hard truth right here. The worst thing you can do with a chick is let them know that some other chick got to you, and how.
[–]NewNombreWhoDis 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
What if it’s just some random chick, and not a bitch you’re sexually involved with?
[–]1Zanford 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Same. Tell a female coworker that you have a brittle ego when it comes to, I dunno, your educational achievements, and she might use that as ammo later.
Some humorously harmless 'weakness' is fine, as vulnerability game ("I was afraid of clowns as a kid lol" or 'wasabi makes me tear up like a baby')
[–]danO1O1O1 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (4 children)
This is my biggest problem. I'm too honest, not just with women. I suck at poker and reveal my hand way too early or voluntarily.
Any book I should read on this? I've read the art of seduction but I need something that easier to digest so I can make it stick/i.e. with practice.
[–]Pooddit 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Women use men's virtues of honor and honesty against them. These virtues do not matter to women.
[–]Nocryingok 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Jiu jitsu was great to me regarding "back and forth games", where you need to rope-a-dope etc.
Realize that there's a game being played, and you don't HAVE to always expose your information when asked. Do it little by little, only to keep them slightly satisfied, and also when it benefits you.
I used to be 100% innocent and speak EVERYTHING that came into my mind. Nowadays I don't invent stories or lie to manipulate people, but I learned to SHUT THE FUCK UP when opening my mouth doesn't benefit me.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
The story should end up with "and then the police fucked her and her career and her dating options up bad, so I don't think she'll be doing that again anytime soon haha".
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
100 years ago women like this would have been identified and institutionalized. It was a necessity since fathers and husbands were held responsible for the actions of the women under their charge.
[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Thats smart and I need to start doing this. What app do you use to do it?
I use a microphone watch to record audio all the time. Always turn it on in meetings with one or two women and no men. Always use it conversations like breakups incase there is a threat of revenge or blackmail or anything.
[–]Lib3rtarianSocialist 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Is that only a conventional watch with a microphone? Because fancier or digital ones aren't as preferable IMO.
[–]WorldNewPilla 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Hey man, how do you make it sync?
I need to start synching too.
[–]WillMeatLover 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I actually have my phone automatically sync all my text messages with gmail for this exact reason.
What software do you use for this?
Similarly, what Always Be Recording software are people using for recording their phone calls?
I've been through a few apps and so far I hated them all. I am not using one currently for that reason.
[–]felipebarroz 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
How do you record all phone calls?
How do you link your texts and Gmail?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
You're so lucky she wasnt a borderline. Borderlines never stop until you tie them up in bondage and make them a permanent sex slave in your basement and feed them twice a day. Its the only way they will ever shut the fuck up.
[–]griz3lda 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)
pretty accurate description, but it isn't exactly a fate worse than death to have a sex slave. it makes me laugh how many guys on here break out the garlic and crosses when it comes to bpds when really their emotions are a billion times more manipulable than anyone else's-- just takes a light touch and strong personal boundaries. have dated several, with one now, & wouldn't date any other breed. yeah it's a hassle and they're not a good idea as NSA/fwb, but as longterm investments it's totally worth it to me. you just can't get soft or next thing you know you're fucking up. & don't live with one imho; you gotta be able to take breaks at will. they're actually the perfect example of that "women want to feel that you're immovable Shiva" business-- they have no emotional object permanency and always gotta be checking it. (ignore the wack formatting; having trouble with mobile.)
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children)
Yeah, your caveat of making sure you dont live with them is the most important part there. Like you said, you have to be able to take breaks at will to regroup yourself and collect your sanity and hold frame. If you live with a bpd, god have mercy on your soul. But god wont help, just get the fuck out of there.
[–]Rid2529 355 points356 points357 points 1 year ago (19 children)
Posts like these make it a lot easier to swallow TRP
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 204 points205 points206 points 1 year ago (16 children)
Imagine had he stuck his dick in this girl...Holy shit.
[–]bengalegoportugues 94 points95 points96 points 1 year ago (15 children)
Remmeber kids don't stick your dick in crazy!
[–]Kobinks 66 points67 points68 points 1 year ago (9 children)
Also remember crazy don’t stick your dick in kids
[–]bengalegoportugues 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago* (7 children)
I got banned in the sub of off my chest because of my coment what lmao
[–]muddynips 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (6 children)
You’re better off. It doesn’t take much (I got banned for lurking here) and that sub never solved anything for anybody.
[–]EqualResponsibility 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (5 children)
I’m confused as to what lurking is
[–]muddynips 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (4 children)
Being subbed and rarely commenting. Mostly just reading.
[–]EqualResponsibility 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (3 children)
So.. the majority of all Reddit users? I’m dumbfounded that’s bannable. I appreciate you explaining.
[–]Barbuhgurth 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
The red pill goes against the core reddit cuckery narrative.. maybe a mod over there needed a reason to ban him, and found our hes subbed to trp? I think it happens to T_D users as well
Tell me why the hottest bitches are crazy tho
[–]wetsd 1 points1 points1 points 1 year ago [recovered]
But, but, it’s so much fun! I never thought she’d carve her name in blood in the hood of my BMW at work.
[–]bengalegoportugues 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Jesus.. u dodge a bullet there buddy..
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
But crazy is just so much fun.
[–]jimmyjoejimbob 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Remmeber kids don't stick your dick in crazy!
If you do though, make sure that crazy doesn't know your real name, any of your friends, or where you live.
[–]Kushbushh 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Meh, I agree with a ton of stuff here but this girl clearly has mental issues.
To say AWALT about this is pretty fucking dumb and just takes away from TRP as a whole.
[–]SoundwaveStarbelt 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (0 children)
i think he only said AWALT about her not taking rejection well, right?
[–]The_white_whaler 216 points217 points218 points 1 year ago (21 children)
FB is the ultimate waste of a man’s time.
[–]olinvomibo123 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Your positive deeds have been observed by forces unknown
[–]martian94 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Really depends on the use, but as most people use Facebook; no doubt.
[–]08Winchester 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Insanely true. Oh so insanely true.
[–]1Obediah_Stane 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Idk I really like my fuck buddies
[–]RPDunkleBomb 1 points1 points1 points 1 year ago [recovered]
The memes tho...
Still a waste of time but a hilarious one.
[–]MarcosDomingues 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Dunno what your talking about... FB memes are the worst
[–]get-tilted 1 points1 points1 points 1 year ago [recovered]
The irony that you’re on Reddit saying this. Reddit is as equally a time waste as FB is, it just happens to not be personal.
[–][deleted] 68 points69 points70 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Trust me I know reddit can be a massive time sink but it has also taught me how to: dress better, game women, cook tons of recipes, fix my car, and play the stock market better.
[–]PepelePeaux 18 points19 points20 points 1 year ago (2 children)
What are your favorite subreddits?
malefashionadvice, eatcheapandhealthy, slowcooking, amateur boxing, and wallstreetbets are just a few.
[–]BurningOrangeHeaven 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Ayeee wsb got the best memes these days haha, takes some of the stress away from a play gone wrong.
[–]The_white_whaler 35 points36 points37 points 1 year ago (2 children)
FB is for children, young girls and attention seeking narcissists. Spend your time on more knowledge building past times that will improve you.
[–]Andrew54321 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I see you aren’t in sales or marketing.
[–]2000inchbiceps 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
False af. I got homework help on reddit the other day.
[–]c_w_o_o_l_l_y 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It's all about how you use it. Facebook has no real constructive utility outside of making it easier to get into contact with people. Reddit has a lot of constructive utility. This sub being a perfect example.
[–]dpgproductions 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Some people really just say things without thinking.
[–]trexgomez 1 points1 points1 points 1 year ago [recovered]
Been there. I rejected this one bitter vindictive bitch.
She had all the red flags from day 1 (Talked ill about her ex and always dropping white knight baits by sharing how he's still harassing her).
Once the stint was over, she took a screenshot of my flirty texts ( to which she flirted back), cropped out her own flirtatious response and when on to social media to share how I'm a predator.
By that time she got another social media white knight for her, backing her up. Any comment I dropped on that post was deleted because "It breaches her privacy".
I made an entire blog post of how this manipulative controlling bitch brought forth this event with elaborate screenshots. And then it settled down.
This disgusted me so much that I've been in a perpetual monk mode ever since. People legit started calling me and hurling threats. Disregarded my achievements in public. Never again.
Amen OP, never delete any conversation.
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (1 child)
My first LTR called my parents and made up some shit about how I was feeling suicidal. My dad called me being weird as fuck. I finally called him out and asked him why he was being a weirdo on the phone. He told me what had happened and I tried denying it. He of course told me it's okay I don't have to hide it.(wtf)
All because she didn't get what she wanted for valentine's day she threw a fucking fit. She caused my family pain. It took me months to convince them I never said shit.
She was a manipulative cunt and it put me in monk mode for a while afterwards.
[–]BaGamman 70 points71 points72 points 1 year ago* (3 children)
This kind of revenge is as bad as revenge porn. Both are about attacking forever the dignity, and I find both disgusting.
A kinda similar story hapened to me in high school. I was tricked by 2 girls from my school and same class. They pretexed they needed my phone number for a "school party" that never happened. Naive me.
For a whole day, they spammed me with textes and phone calls and some were kinda sexual, while other were outright threatening. They managed to oversaturate my memory card with around 150 phone calls and 50+ textes. It could seem like a rather little number now, but remember textes used to not be free back in the days.I recorded everything.
Then, the next day, they started bitching about it, and even started to blackmail me. Well, I wasn't gonna play the victim in some sick girls play, I denounced them to the principal.
They started to deny it, but they couldn't change their phone numbers overnight, and they eventualy got kicked off school for a week. That's how I learned to record anything.
[–]PepelePeaux 33 points34 points35 points 1 year ago (0 children)
women's weapons of choice, poison or character assassination. Happened to me too.
[–]HiredMind 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This kind of revenge is as bad as revenge porn.
This kind of revenge is as bad as revenge porn.
It's much, MUCH worse, because it can have criminal ramifications.
[+]gbdoragnic comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
accusing someone of rape is no where near as bad as revenge porn. As someone who has been falsely accused it isn't for having sex wrong it's for pissing her off in a none sexual way
[–]3n1g 59 points60 points61 points 1 year ago (1 child)
> She also is claiming he raped her(even though they have never met in person).
This really is now their default go to to automatically win any argument.
Scares the shit out of me.
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (0 children)
That or they say you are sexist and 30 white knights flock to them.
[–]urbanoid 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Bring a lawsuit, make precedent.
[–]warwolverinewarrior 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (4 children)
ACR is great for recording phonecalls for Android(Idk about iPhone). I recommend it. Just lock the app so it doesn't close on you. Also back up to any cloud service.
[–]good-afternoon 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child)
If you're jail broken, AudioRecorder (fully updated through 11.3.1) can auto-record all your calls.
Also a note to check privacy statutes in your state! Some states require both/all parties to consent to recording, while some only require one party (you).
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Very true about consent. Just say they gave verbal consent beforehand. You're not trying to blackmail them or harm them with it. You're only trying to acquit yourself of alleged crimes.
[–]Flawless44 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Disable wifi calling on your phone though, as it sometimes screws up with those and won't record those calls.
[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Sidenote: Not only should you avoid putting your dick in crazy, you should also stay away from crazy.
[–]gbdoragnic 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
I think this is obvious but this advice is to cliche to be meaningful because you don't know if she is crazy,
[–]AnAbsoluteSith 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Really? I beg to differ. I read a lot of stories like this and others and I cannot comprehend how it is guys end up having relations with women like this. Like its one big surprise afterwards when she starts doing crazy shit like threatening rape. In my experience women doing shit like that have enough red flags present long beforehand. Makes me start to wonder if a lot of men just like to play roulette with psycho bitches.
[–]xx-Rain_Maker-xx 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It's actually not that difficult. The red flags are always there.
[–]magx01 29 points30 points31 points 1 year ago (1 child)
The fragile female ego at work yet again.
[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago (1 child)
He got lucky. She could have blocked your brother on facebook and said "I cant those chat logs any more because I deleted them all when I was upset". SOME women would take her side - and due to dictatorship of the intolerant minority and women-are-wonderful bias they would persuade everyone else and define the 'social truth'.
Your brother got lucky that this girl made obvious mistakes like accusing him of rape when they never met. If she was smarter and avoided overreaching she could have hurt him bad.
I was framed for this kind of thing and the girl was smart enough to ensure nobody talked to me. So I couldn't find out why lots of people had cut me out or were giving me silent treatment. The few bros I knew who were in the loop had been forcibly sworn to not tell me. It was extremely hard to reverse her damage. Close to 50 people were involved. This was at uni and she was more connected and well-networked than I. Most people didn't care about what was true or real - they knew there were negative social consequences for talking to me.
The crazy thing was that the girl herself who did it was really nice to me the whole time - I didn't realise she was the root of it all for a long time. I found out years later that I had "cheated on her and abused her". Well we never were dating, we both were explicit about that. She had just slept over at mine twice then she choose to sleep with a mutual friend and I stopped making an effort to contact her. But I still am facing consequences for this 5 years on - I saw one old friend on the street and tried talking to him and he pretended I didn't exist. Unbelievable.
[–]Hviterev 42 points43 points44 points 1 year ago (10 children)
Every argument I had with women were recorded on my phone.
Can't tell you how enjoyable it is when she calls the police and you just start making coffee for the cops and she panics like "Why aren't you scared?" and you can just tell her that you have everything on tape.
I also tend to record consent when I can, or just the sex altogether which also displays that it was consensual.
Overall, there's really no reason to not record what you can.
[–]1Kurush559 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (9 children)
How do you make sure you record audio for those encounters (not the arguments, the consent). I'd be pretty worried about the girl noticing
[–]rooolng 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (2 children)
I use ASR: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nll.asr
You can make a quick widget to turn on/off recording. There is also support (not sure if it's pay or not since I bought the premium) to auto upload to the Cloud incase she trashes your phone (or the police)
[–]1Kurush559 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
You have done me a great favour. Thank you
[–]SexualBowelMovement 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I cannot up vote this enough.
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Consent is pretty easy.
You're not using the recording for harm or blackmail. Technically the recording was private(your phone is always recording) and your hand is being forced to acquit yourself from alleged crimes involving statements. Any cop or court is going to accept it and not question the consent of it.
Where consent and recording becomes an issue is where you publicly post it without their knowledge of you recording them. Even if it was unintentional or wasn't meant to harm.
Ultimately if anyone asks, she gave you verbal consent to record beforehand. It's her words against yours.
[–]Hviterev 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
If the girl is really submissive, I hand her the phone, I tell her what to say and to video tape her face while doing it. I usually make it a bit playful, like her giving me every right to do what I want with her.
If she's a bit of a brat, just go on your phone, turn on the tape recorder and turn your screen off, then include it in the conversation.
[–]mavindero 1 points1 points1 points 1 year ago [recovered]
Great great new app called Otter for recording voice that uses AI to make a text transcript. It’s brilliant. Use it.
[–]Hviterev 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It's cool to take notes for yourself but I wouldn't trust a text transcript to proove innocence in court or to cops.
[–]notyourduck 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I have a watchapp on my smart watch that starts the audio recorder on my phone. Looks like I'm just checking the time.
[–]acekilo 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago (1 child)
NEVER TRUST ANY WOMEN. ITS 2018!! 5 OF MY SOLDIERS ARE GETTING DIVORCE. 1 OF THEM HIS SPOUSE TOOK 40K AND BOUNCE. THE OTHER WIFE IS PREGNANT AND HES WITH ME IN KUWAIT. WHEN WILL FUCKING MEN LEARN MAN. I REALLY DONT FUCKING GET IT. IVE BEEN SEEING THIS SHIT FOR YEARS AND ITS LIKE MEN NEVER LEARN FROM OTHERZ MISTAKES. A WISE MAN IS WISE ENOUGH TO FUCKIN SEE. DAMN!!!
[–]alex_d_2016 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I feel.sorry for you and the others man :(
[–]daytonbull90 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Don't stop there, invest in Dropcams.
[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Or one of those little drones that follows you around recording everything. She'll probably claim that it raped her too, though.
[–]LongTrang117 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
He needs to file charges ASAP.
[–]WarSport223 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
If I have a son, I will literally be terrified of him growing up in this utterly fucked sexual marketplace.
I’m going to raise him so fucking red pill.....shit like this is just terrifying to ponder.
How many stories just like this are there that we haven’t heard of where the guy had no clue whatsoever & got his life totally destroyed?
Fuck modern society and the femcunts who enable shit like this.
[–]hearse223 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I always used to think, why do Dads and Moms not want their sons dating or interacting with girls when they are younger? My mom used to give me such a hard time when I wanted to go over girls houses and shit.
Makes sense now, momma just knew how women work when they see a desirable young man with a promising future.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children)
And most importantly, hold frame.
[–]1Zanford 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child)
He should pursue this further. He could probably get Facebook to ban her actual account (and banning a young woman's Facebook is about the best revenge you can imagine) for TOS violations. Maybe contact her parents to let them know etc.
He can do this all while being the Nice Guy and doing in the (legitimate) guise of "I can't be sure what lies your daughter has told you about me, so I need to clear the air and get my side out". Or he can do it anonymously / leak it.
This revenge serves a practical purpose. The more people are aware of what she has done, the better it will clear his name. He can't yet be sure that his exoneration has gotten circulated as widely as the original slander. You know the saying about a lie traveling halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes.
[–]yummyluckycharms 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (4 children)
Very common - why do you think the pence rule exists in the first place? In the entertainment world, the recent ghomeshi case shows that even feminist allies arent immune to being falsely charged. He got off because he recorded everything.
People lie all the time - thats why the paper trail rule exists at corporations. A co-worker wants a favour or for you to do an additional task? Tell him, to send it to you via email with all of the details
[–]ThaiEscapePlan 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Ghomeshi hardly "got off." His career was ruined and he has yet to resurface. After spending hundreds of thousands on legal defence, he was able to prove that the women accusers conspired through hundreds of back and forth texts to each other. Those were communications that were not disclosed to the prosecution and police who all looked like fools when this came out at the trial. But Canada's wonderful feminist government has a solution, change the laws so that an accused man's defence team will not be able to use an accuser's text history to show ill will or bad intent. this was before the metoo hysteria.
In a Criminal Code amendment that a sexual-assault crisis centre called a direct response to the acquittal of broadcaster Jian Ghomeshi last year, proposed legislation would spell out for the first time that a complainant's text messages, e-mails and video recordings with sexual content or a sexual purpose can be kept out of trials. A new provision would subject these messages, including those sent after an alleged assault, to the same rules as evidence of a complainant's past sexual activity: requiring a judge's advance approval after a closed hearing for them to be used in a trial.
It gets worse. Defendents have to lay out their defence plan to the prosecution. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/sexual-assault-bill-gets-few-changes-from-mps-despite-lawyers-concerns-over-reverse-disclosure-provision
I don't think "Don't date psychopaths" is good advice in today's environment when every woman is potentially a psychopath and the state is backing them up. "Don't be unattractive" isn't an answer either. By Canadian standards Ghomeshi was attractive. Ask Brad Pitt or Henry Cavill how it's working for them.
Unfortunately, this whole comment stream reads like an advert for MGTOW, not Red Pill
[–]yummyluckycharms 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
All True - but when I said he got off - it refers to how he didnt go to jail. Which in itself is an accomplishment considering the full weight of the government and media were put to use against him.
and yes - after being stymied - the government changed the rules to ensure that no judge could intervene again. It should be said that the rule of law in Canada is non-existent - courts have been re-interpreting the laws far beyond what is stated for years now. Nor does one have the right to face their accuser among other recent changes.
[–]Synzael 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Luckily in the US exculpatory evidence is generally admissible even if it's highly prejudicial. Our legal system is fucked, but not in the same way as many western countries
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Great point. Some people on here think this shit is rare and people don't lie. Lies can ruin your life.
[–]lifeson106 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Thank goodness he didn't sleep with her! The situation is shitty but it will blow over eventually, unlike having a baby situation with a crazy situation!
Girl can't take rejection at all. Either this or they start crying.
[–]kremer5 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
isn't this libel? if she or her family has money, sue the shit out of her?
[–]gbdoragnic 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This is very common, Women are very easy to sleep with but maintain a facade of very hard to get , or that they aren't like other women. Getting rejected from a "Piece of shit", this is how she considers you, nothing more than garbage, and if garbage rejected her, than she must be garbage herself.
Now why would see move on to threats of rape? Because women are taught at a early age accuse a man of rape to get your way.
If he didn't have those messages #Metoo and the court system would of ruined his life over nothing.
In short, women aren't your enemy, but they aren't your friends and they live in a system design to fuck you over if they feel jaded.
[–]Plebsin 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Reading stuff like this pisses me off.
[–]TheDevilsAdvokaat 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The atomic bomb for women.
Sadly many choose to go nuclear when their feelings are hurt. It's an old saying but true: Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I don't use Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. Would it be smart to make an account with your own name on those sites, but never use it so you can be sure someone won't be impersonating you?
[–]twofones 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Seems like there are strategies for anticipating behavior like this when profiling a prospective mate . We have BPD to look for, but I feel we can improve on this as well
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
BPDs are excellent at hiding their disorder at first. It's not usually until you're dating for a bit that they start revealing their true nature.
[–]twofones 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Right, which is why I think it’s important to think about other information or queues one can look for
[–]Carcrash1985 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
It amazes me how many times I have been about to post a thread on something on here , only to find that someone has had the exact same thing happen to them , very very similar happened to me two days ago , and I’m sick of it , just imagine if he didnt have the proof ?
He would be fucked without proof.
[–]NintenJoo 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
If you have an iPhone, there is a free app called “Tailor”.
It will automatically stitch all your screenshots together and save them as a single long image file.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child)
100 years ago women like this would have been identified and institutionalized.
Now they are considered brave.
[–]WarViper1337 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I hope he reported her to facebook. They have been cracking down pretty hard on fake accounts like this and there is a good chance they will ban her permanently.
[–]Geckobird 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
It’s posts like these that make me really believe mgtow is the only smart option.......
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
You would think so. Being MGTOW you're still going to have to deal with women. Rejecting them is going to be a big part of it. Rejection is lethal to them.
[–]Geckobird 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The top post on TRP is of a guy who almost got legally fucked over for rejecting a woman. Steering clear as much as you can is the best option.
[–]freddymerckx 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Are they in a really small town or something?
[–]nuxx9 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Even better, we should all delete our Facebook account. It won’t stop fake accounts but it’ll be easier in the long run to alleviate yourself from social media.
Download automatic Call Recorder.
[–]THEMIDLANDMAN 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
I got involved with a woman for 4 years behind her partners back. We were meant to be getting together properly after she left him but she dumped on me from a great height.
This was pre red pill, ghosted her but kept our entire 4 years conversation all the details of her sneaking behind her partners back and having sex in public places around the village.
She knows this and avoids me at all costs, walked into a pub not long ago with her in (2 years after we "broke up") and she drank up and left within 10 minutes.
[–]curiousjourney 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child)
its not hard for you to show those messages to him......
[–]THEMIDLANDMAN 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
She's with someone else now, but I sure he'd be shocked at what he's dealing with. Not to mention she also slated her so called best friends on there as well.
[–]BostonPillParty 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
For those who have iPhones, be aware that your text message settings have three options; keep for 30 days keep for 90 days and keep forever… Make sure it’s on keep forever.
Yep. Keep those crazy bitches honest
[–]zangatti 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Nice, show him MGTOW subreddit. GO MGTOW!!! MGTOW for life!
[–]Viking_RnP 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
How about don't use social media.
[–]Vlad_the_imp_hailer 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Or, you know, don’t deal with women.
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Being completely MGTOW you're still going to come across women. You're still going to have to reject them. It's best to record, document and save everything.
[–]Vlad_the_imp_hailer 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Yeah, that’s true. Still GYOW is the best method.
[–]Demiurge_Decline 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I already know - She was fat. He is average. She saw a high SMV. He saw nothing in her.
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Eh, he is BP natured actually. He believes in romance and a bunch of other bullshit. He's the type of guy to wait to get to know someone before fucking. She was also a Landmine.
Those deep type guys seem to get a lot of pussy thrown at them. Probably because they reject a lot of women and seem hard to get(high smv appearance). He's nexted a lot of cute chicks(didnt fuck them) just because he didn't like them. So he has a reputation for doing that.
I've explained to him he isn't going to find a unicorn. He says one day he'll prove me wrong.
[–]DivisionTotenkopf 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Women are by default mentally unstable, they work real hard to hide this from the rest of the world, some work harder than others though.
[–]Zech4riah 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
And remember to buy lottery ticket if this happens to you. This shit is so rare that you shouldn't be wasting any energy to worry about it.
[–]alex_d_2016 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I do this all the time for 2 years already because: 1. It may help me like in this case 2. When I don't have internet connection I can read funny momemts or jokes in that convestation Cons: 1. R.I.P. your space on a mobile phone ( although of you do it on a PC you won't have problems with space ).
I have shit backed up to a harddrive, that I keep in my safe. I also take notes on chicks.
[–]Nocryingok 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
This is BP. Doesn't happen so often, and the courts will soon start to ignore ridiculous fake rape accusations. This is only spread on mainstream media to keep incels as incels (feminism is a shit test)
Be bold and don't stick your dick in crazy. Don't spend your time recording conversations.
BP is being ignorant and refusing to believe shit happens. How many threads like this do you come across on TRP? Quite a few. You have guys having their lives destroyed.
Keep hiding and pretending bad things don't happen.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Anyone knows a good iOS app for that ? Where you can save recording/text messages and comes with a passcode ? Please feel free to share.
I have android, but... my recommendation is to download any voice recording app. The text messages I believe can be synced and backed up to apple and other apple devices.
Ultimately I would passcode the fuck out of your phone(even requiring it for start up). Secondly, I would download an app like Void Lock App. Which projects a fake lock screen of the phone seemingly being off.
On an ending note, any weird feelings or nervousness I would double back up everything.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This stuff should be illegal.
I got screwed similarly in high school. Psycho bitch found out I was talking to some other chick while we were together. She hacks my FB and turns all of our mutual friends against me. Calling me a "man whore, cheater, liar, etc.". Nobody even bothered to ask me my side of the story. Bros included.
The psycho bitch still tries texting me asking me to meet up (I never would), and otherwise tries to sabotage relationships when she hears from the grapevine I'm with someone new.
It's some crazy shit. I got the last laugh though because she's still alone and meanwhile I'm making (and stashing) gobs of money.
The best revenge is a life well lived.
Thankfully he is swallowing the redpill. Thankfully ive never been accused of rape, of all the terrible things that have happened to me, that has never happened. Thank you Jesus.
Yeah, save everything and record everything if you have suspicions that the situation is about to blow up into chaos. It could save your life. Be prepared to walk away from everything. And be prepared to fight until the deepest parts of your human primordial energy reserves are extinguished. Then fight some more.
[–]griz3lda 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (0 children)
Word. I mean I've lived with several and survived it, but at this age, I'm just over not having total control of my env. I'm very irritable to sensory overstim and the crying can really get to be too much for me personally. I don't want to suggest that no one w bpd including guys can have a normal relationship, they just can't have one with me. But what I have now seems to be working out for both of us.
[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Would not happen if he didn't have Facebook in the first place.
[–]bikermonk 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
> She also is claiming he raped her
This is unbelievable. Sounds untrue to me.
[–]askmrcia -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (0 children)
How old are they? And that is some bpd shit.
[–]RedBeard6 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (2 children)
Or just date women who aren’t psychopaths...
[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The problem is, she didn't reveal herself to be a physopath right away. By the time she revealed herself, he got a bad feeling and rejected her it was too late.
This post is about taking measures to not get caught in a trap.
[–]WarSport223 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Part of their deal is psycho / sociopaths, cluster B’s; they are quite adept at hiding their crazy.
[–]ThorCoop -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
what age range is this? this seems very juvenile.
[–]zhantoo -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (9 children)
Stuff like this makes op look stupid. These cases are rare. This is like saying you shouldn't leave the house because you could get hit by a car. You also shouldn't be home because you might get injured there as well.
Red pill is not about being a scared pussy who runs on your emotions.
It's alpha to get the facts straight, and the facts say that this is rare, and your time is spend better than recording calls from strangers.
[–]ntvirtue 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (7 children)
I wonder what the Duke Lacrosse team would think of that.
[–]zhantoo -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 year ago (6 children)
I would think that I have no idea who they are and that if they're a high value target, there is an elevated risk profile that justifies their tome spend versus their risk.
[–]ntvirtue 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–]zhantoo -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (4 children)
So every person in the world should record every call due to ONE case in 2016? As case in which the falsely accused were cleared the year after. A case where recorded calls and texts weren't used, because there probably weren't any.
The Wikipedia page at least doesn't seem to mention any connection between them other than them having been at the same party.
Also even if they were involved with the woman in any way, she is what you would call a high risk person - as in there's an elevated chance of a prostitute to have some "mental dents and kinks". So recording the people where you believe there to be a risk makes more sense than everyone.
[–]ntvirtue 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
It was the entire team and they had the entire school facualty and all calling for a lynching. It was in the news cycle 24/7 for over a year.....Al Sharpton and company got involved. One case you say?
Then explain this.
[–]zhantoo 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
The wiki pages says 3 people were accused. There are 10 people on a lacrosse team.
But your argument was one case, not statistics. So yes, I'm saying based on one case.
But estimates say that between 2 and 10% are false accusations.
The chance of being reported for rape is already small, so I'm going to state it again.tyere are a lot of better things to worry about.
The cases aren't really rare. All women I've encountered are pathological liars.(Including my mother and sisters) now yes, I have not witnessed damages from all lying women and have only been at the tail end of a few.
It takes barely any time to record or document things. I keep files on all women I date/talk to/see. I'm protecting my ass, not being a scared pussy.
Your logic is basically: No one needs to learn self defense; the cases of being in a self-defense situation is rare.
Rare is a perspective and situational. If I own all 100 copies of something and you don't... You might say it's rare, but I have an abundance.
It's alpha to get facts straight, you can end up being held responsible for things you didn't do from the silver, lying tongue of a woman. #metoo proves it.
So... maybe, just maybe it's a good idea to be prepared.