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I recently went to a family gathering where my 17 year old cousin gave me a crash course in Gen Z. (the jury is still out on the name). This is the post millennial generation. I don't generally like to package things into neat little boxes but for the sake of the post let's go with it.

She was showing me some "huge" boxing match between two YouTube "celebrities". Apparently YouTube and Instagram personalities are replacing film and music stars as the the big draw cards, welcome to the virtual takeover.

While she was showing me this whole boxing match saga we stumbled on to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mmIEZKWi3A "Why Do Girls Dump Their Boyfriends?"

The video shows some young fella interviewing Gen Z girls on a popular nightlife street in the US. Being a millennial myself and having endured a large part of my generation driving feminism to the heights we see today, I was still somewhat surprised by the state of affairs. It's a jungle out there to say the least and I pity the horde of programmed Soyboys coming off societies production line, that have to co-exist with these Vag-Lords. I can only hope that one day they may stumble upon a Sub such as this to (reluctantly) liberate themselves from the tyranny of a gynocentric haven.

The video starts out with the Interviewer asking young "Living my best life" thots why girls dump their boyfriends. I think their inebriated state assists in the truth they spit when answering the question, but their answers point to a much larger, gloomier problem for young men growing up today.

The glaringly obvious thread that ran through most of the answers was how men have become needy bitches, and woman just can't stand it. Ultimately the feminization of men as a whole.

In the intro one of the girls proudly boasts:

Her: Every guy I've broken up with has threatened to kill himself

As if it's just another feather in her cap. This is a far cry from the prehistoric days where a woman losing a man was a tragedy, like she had just lost her meal ticket(because she had). Or the stereotype of a woman sobbing at the loss of her beau, but here we have poor Billyboy's employing the dramatic(typically feminine traits) in an obscene display of oneities. Threatening to trade his own life for a c-grade clam in an attempt to negotiate attraction. She looks truly moved.

The same girl later on goes on to complain that:

Her: I make em comfortable and they cheat on me and then shakes her ass at the camera**

It's truly a riddle as to why they struggle to settle with such a wholesome princess.

The next girl tells a tale of how she's dumped every boyfriend she's ever had with a snide look of accomplishment. She goes on to say the reason she dumped them:

Her: They were all way more obsessed with me than I was with them, It was gross.

Interviewer: They probably wanna share their feelings with you?

Her: Yeah, it's like stop, I don't wanna hear that

It seems our dames are more in tune with their sexual nature than ever, and why wouldn't they be, feminism has given them the platform to express it as freely as possible. Note the disgust a woman has for a low value man who hands himself over to a woman, she simply cannot harbor feelings for such a needy scrap of filth.

The BP notion of share your feelings and showing how much you care quite literally repels women. She goes on to say...

Her: I don't wanna see you all the time, maybe twice a week, don't be obsessed with me, thats disgusting. Let me go out, let me wear whatever the fuck I want.

Interviewer: And If I happen to make out with someone..

Her: Who cares, it was a slip up, shit happens.

Translation, be my little bitch, get comfy in my frame, I'm gonna go shop at the meat market as much as I want and If a sausage happens to land in my mouth, well then oh well shit happens.

More concerning is the mentality of these women. Our gynocentric oasis of a civilization has literally drilled into these princesses the entitlement that men exist to serve women. Funny, I've heard that one somewhere?....oh yeah, feminism used to say that about men. The script has well and truly flipped.

Lastly she goes on to say:

Interviewer: Men should focus on building themselves?

Her: Yeah, you gotta be 100% good with yourself, you confident with yourself before you get a girl.

It's gotten to the point that women are literally starting to tell men how to be men. Just be yourself, women will love you for who you are is the most cancerous statement for a young man to hear.

The next girl drops ancient wisdom:

Interviewer: Do you have a friend you keep in the friend zone to buy you dinner, but then you hit up another dude when you wanna get real?

Her: Yeah, thats exactly how it goes

The joke is, you don't even need the Red Pill to tell you this anymore, men have become such worthless rags that woman will boast about using them an interview. This is normal Gen Z behavior, it serves women, so why would we expect anything else? Woman are so aware of blue pill nature, and will milk it for everything it's worth. Don't be the butt of this joke.

Then an HB6 goddess adds:

Her: He was telling me he loves me, and I didn't like him, so I had to cut it off

The same guy who comes on here: "But you guys over at the Red Pill are such mean woman haters, you don't know what love is all about", while he drowns his sorrows in a masturbation binge.

The hypergamy bunny chimes in:

Interviewer: Do you think the grass is always greener?

Her: Yeah, always

While society shouts from the sidelines: "You go girl, you can do better, that man don't deserve a princess like you"

Then our self aware hood rat brings some sense to all this:

Her: It stresses me out because WTF, this guy is giving me attention, why can't I love him?

Interviewer: But then theres that guy who like spit on you at the bar...

Her: Yeah and then it's like hit me up

It's called AF/BB sweetheart. You get the tingles for the alpha, and the beta's dry your cooch faster than a Sub-Saharan summer. They're quite aware aware of this dynamic, do they care? No.

Last one is my favorite, this little meatball barks into the camera with a cigarette dangling out her hand that men need to:

Her: Workout, go swimming, take her for a walk, take her for dinner, have sex, I don't know just stop playing video games

Telling of her desires for an alpha man, every word dripping with entitlement as her stomach hangs out, and lungs fill up with tar. She does however do a great job of telling men how to be men again I'll give her that.

Now these woman will almost certainly ride the carousel with vigor for the next decade or so and then splat against the wall with ravaged lady bits. I pity the poor blue pill save a ho that offers them a ladder to climb it, but I have no doubt that this generation of white knights will be lining up for the opportunity.

They'll do that because these women are not the exceptions, they are a representation of the attitude of the median woman coming off the Gen Z production line, and the median man coming off it is the most feminized schmuck in history. Every one of these responses drip with feminine superiority, repulsed by the needy, clingy devoid of Alpha trait males. With masculine traits labelled as "toxic" it's no wonder these men they speak of are so lost. A portion of the millennial's held this notion but the vast majority of Gen Z is more widely infected with it than ever before.

The Nett result: A generation of men behaving more feminine than ever, society filtering the presence of (toxic)masculinity. With men adopting a feminine approach we get females behaving more masculine than ever to fill the man void.

Why is operating society on feminine empowerment values a problem?

Well as packaged so nicely in a CH post. Men compete, then cooperate. Women compete, then cast out.

Vertical male hierarchy ensures a place for everyone. Order is kept via rules-based discipline and the threat of demotion. Allows for graceful losing and peaceful surrender. Stable.

Horizontal female hierarchy causes massive churn, clique formation, uncertain and shifting status and frequent change of allegiance. Zero sum. Highly unstable.

Try and Imagine an interview like the one above being conducted 80 years ago, under a male dominated society, women would quiver to address men in such a manner on a public platform.

So lets just go back?

Well for starters those banking on a return of the TradCon Values should jump ship now or alternatively learn how to navigate the current climate. No amount of Jordan Peterson videos is going to change the course of modern culture back to their TradCon paradise. Society is galloping away from TradCon values and not looking back(well besides the hopeful BP idealists doing the ostrich).

Why wont a reversal work?

This is a really complex multifaceted issue that would take a lot longer than this post is intended to be to really get stuck into, but as a brief introduction, conservative values wont work today because of the same reason they did work. Faith. The breakdown of a faith driven community(or even nationalism) tribalism approach to a more secular diverse globalism approach.

Faith was the glue that held conservative values together. There was a man in the sky watching over every woman's behavior. If she wanted to be in prime alpha selecting position she had to be a good, faith holding woman. Behavior swaying too far from the doctrine was condemned and shamed by society, no man would tolerate it.

Advancements in Science coupled with liberal dogma has left the institutions of marriage and religion more worthless than ever before. Many still hold onto faith for comfort but very few are internalizing that there is truly a deity watching over us and judging our behavior. I can count a total of zero people I know who live by the prescribed doctrine, it's simply not compatible with modern society. The closest I've met is a married pair of Jehovah's Witnesses, they live a very TradCon life but only interact with Jehovah's Witnesses so as to not interfere with their faith.

This is why the most religious(or strong cultural influence) countries, still hold the most TradCon values. E.G Saudi Arabia, North Korea etc

So where does that leave us now?

Without gods to judge us and direct our lives, humans become the gods of their own lives. What do gods do? Well, whatever they want. Add in a few wars, women entering the workplace, contraceptive pills, feminine law protection, globalization, the internet, cellphones, welfare and we have a society where woman are as free as they've ever been. And what does a free woman do? Well sample every Alpha penis that lands in her snatch of course.

Gen Z cheers and pats them on the back: "YOLO, strong independent woman!" while the saddest and unhappiest generation of men and women unfold in our recorded history. Woman not satisfied with their newfound empowerment because It just so happens that woman don't really like behaving like men. Like every cohesive, natural selection driven species they still need and want men, and not men behaving like woman type of men, biologically alpha men, so that natural selection/biology can take place effectively.

Societal pressures have pushed both men and women to stray further and further from their biological nature. Men adopting more feminine traits, with woman becoming more career driven, providing for themselves, providing their own(or potential to) food and shelter, not settling down, not having kids. Compound this with women not having the consequence of having a baby after spreading her legs and it's opened up sexual promiscuity instead of strict selectiveness. The Alpha traits they would have selected for are labelled as toxic so they become more dormant in society than ever before. The less we are aligned socially with our biological nature the less happy we become.

I learnt from my cousin that she can't help but attract fuckboys. It appears that they are some of the last bastions of masculinity, now given a derogatory label in an attempt to shame Alpha behaviors. Her description of a fuckboy: Gym guys who fuck, but don't ever commit. It's truly one of lifes greatest riddles why they won't commit and settle with one vag in the greatest vag buffet in history. They're called called fuckboys because well, they fuck. And then all the "nice guys" of Gen Z offering commitment are the guys you heard about in our lovely short film.

So what to do?

No matter what direction we go in it will simply be another society, one we will need to learn to navigate all the same, so I'll open that discussion to the floor.

My last thought, TRP is going to be more relevant than ever with Gen Z. With a free and unregulated sexual market, it's the Alpha that is once again king. No more supposed one for one marriage, in a free market AF/BB is the order of the day. The Top 20% will be drowning in it while the remaining 80% go hungry, at least until they're established and even then they'll be picking from the post wall pool. It's like we've gone back to the principles that governed early man.

In the absence of stable women, plating is more relevant than ever. With the pussy buffet pumping, vetting is of paramount importance. With unregulated hypergamy a man needs to be outcome independent and willing to drop his treasured unicorn more than ever.

The market can still work for the individual, as long as he doesn't expect whats not being delivered and knows how to navigate the murky waters of the SMP that lies ahead.​


[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (8 children)

Congratulations, you just learned that we live in an era of open hypergamy. Get used to it and enjoy the decline.

[–]NorthEasternNomad 663 points664 points  (56 children)

I'll say it again here, for the young guys:

Do. Not. Give. A. Fuck.

About her terms, her frame or her rules. Dont give a fuck. Not ever.

Live on your terms. Lift. Get lean. Educate yourself. Build your life, live in your frame. Always.

[–][deleted] 174 points175 points  (12 children)

Now im older and more experienced and knowledegable it really is laughable i ever gave one single fuck about a woman. Mother did a good job at keeping me purple pilled but i knew i was gona find the truth one day and spread my wings.

[–]NorthEasternNomad 170 points171 points  (8 children)

Looking back, its funny.

I was Red Pill as hell in my twenties. Did my own thing. Played the field.

As I got older, I started to settle down. Tried to be the guy that women say they want. Got rejected, cheated on.

Then I found Red Pill...and am rediscovering a lot of what I instinctively used in my 20's:

Frame.. DGAF/distance. Women as a compliment, not a focus, ever. Sexual Market Value.

Young guys: keep doing what works. Trusting a woman - any woman - to tell you what she really wants in a guy, is a certain path to becoming a friend zoned, blue pilled emotional tampon.

[–]DeeplyDisturbed1 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Damn, this was me exactly.

[–]NorthEasternNomad 51 points52 points  (2 children)

It works.

Some here know I've had...issues...with my LTR of late.

So, last week, before the holiday, instead of giving in and settling on the couch post workout/shower, I kept my distance.

All week, I focused on me. Upped the workout intensity. Doubled my study time for me degree course work. Read books (including The Rational Male).

By the weekend, she gotten that look back. That cougar "sizing up her prey" look. And by Saturday night she was on me and wouldn't get off until, well, we had both done so aplenty.

All o' which is to say: it works, boys. It feels counterintuitive. But that's because you're still hearing the blue pill chump talking about what women SAY they want. But what women want, when they say those things, is to turn you into an emotional, friend zone fill in between Chads.

If you want to play, focus on YOU. Build it, as Rollo says, and they WILL come.

[–]KarmicPrism 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wait so you didn't mind her is what you mean?

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Trusting a woman - any woman - to tell you what she really wants in a guy, is a certain path to becoming a friend zoned, blue pilled emotional tampon.

They don't even know what they want. I asked the feminist I'm currently banging if she ever thought she would enjoy getting choked and asking for permission before she cums.

"Fuck no! But this is so hot!" she said.

[–]NorthEasternNomad 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I have literally had a girl who swore she would never do anal, literally beg me to fuck her ass.

Another girl fell head over heels for me...despite only dating me in the first place for a chance to "take a player down a peg." When I asked her what changed her mind she told me - I shit you not - "women like a bad boy."

So yeah...if you're listening to what women SAY they want...you are, as the internet would say, doing it wrong.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

yeah same we had it right in the beginning, trust your instincts!

[–]ilovehelmetsama 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Spread your wings. Spread their legs.

[–]KarmicPrism 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whats purple mean? Like in between?

[–]GreatWhiteCuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why biology compels us to reproduce when young and dumb

[–]Solistx 1 points1 points [recovered]

I'm 23 and I find myself only ever giving a fuck. Please how do I stop? I got a good job, pays over 60k a year. I haven't gotten laid in 5 years and it's slowly consuming me. People tell me I'm doing great for my age, but all I want to do is shoot myself. What do I do?

[–]NorthEasternNomad 72 points73 points  (6 children)

Lift. Get fit. Enroll in martial arts. The confidence you derive from being fit and fiscally independent will change you.

Find a hobby. One that improves you. Aforementioned martial arts, perhaps? Reading? Travel?

Adopt a mantra: There is no ONE. There are lots of fish in the sea. Dont settle for a small catch out of fear you wont get a better one.

Lastly: Women are never the focus. They compliment your life, not become the center of it. If you make them the center, they see you as weak, and move on.

Build your frame. Stay in it. Stay. In. It. Always.

Be strong, man.

[–]Solistx 1 points1 points [recovered]

Thanks for the comment man. I'd say I have a good facet of hobbies. Most of them I use for a small project I'm working. Coding, music, modeling/texturing, etc. I agree with there is no ONE, but not focusing on them is quite challenging.

I lift in binges unfortunately. I need to improve my discipline.
And now that I took a second look at what I just wrote. I think thats where all the problems I'm having in life are because of...

[–]NorthEasternNomad 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Build that discipline. But dont be afraid of test breaks. I used to binge on lifting. It got me a sprained shoulder, 9 months away from lifting and 4 inches of additional waist line I'm battling to get rid of.

Dont do that. Rest is crucial to fitness.

Still, start a routine that includes workouts. And cardio. Get lean and fit. At 23, lean, fit and financially independent...that's the dream, man. Do that, and stay in your frame, focused on you.

[–]Eyiolf_the_Foul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lots of research on effects of small incremental changes being the key to developing more discipline and skills. You can do 10 push-ups a day and then add one a day or one a week etc.

[–]DaParish9[🍰] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

What does being financially independent have anything to do with getting pussy? Guys who live with their parents and even fucking homeless dudes get laid like the famous one from YouTube

[–]NorthEasternNomad 6 points7 points  (1 child)

You arent wrong.

But some guys get a confidence boost from the independence. That shows up in their behavior.

You dont NEED it. But it CAN be a helpful tool if you HAVE it.

[–]rma92 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It can be an impressive confidence boost -- if you go to the bar / other social activity that costs money (nearly everything costs at least some money) and you spend the whole time worrying about the fact that it costs some money, you're not going to have a good time.

Emphasis on worrying. Worrying is an inverse of confidence.

So, it may not be necessary for everyone. It may also be a huge confidence boost. Some poeple don't give a fuck -- and not giving a fuck is a total level of confidence.

[–]Odglaf 70 points71 points  (7 children)

Therapy and prostitutes. Also lift and finish up the sidebar. Then gtfo of reddit, pronto.

[–]Solistx 1 points1 points [recovered]

Alright, should I actually give a prostitute a go? It's been suggested twice, and I'm curios what the overall view on it is. I've never tried it before and being in the states I wouldn't even know where to start.

The 2nd part I agree. I mentioned to someone in another reply that I need major improvement on my discipline.

[–]LukesLikeIt 29 points30 points  (0 children)

For sure in your situation. You’ll feel better and then immediately realise pussy isn’t even a big deal.

[–]Nocryingok 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Agree with banging a prostitute, just be aware that it's a paliative. Do it once a month MAX and keep trying to get girls

[–]iamtherealandy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Screwing a whore is only going to make you feel worse. Ugh.

Relax. Get into a community — volunteer at something you love — the animal shelter, political campaign, whatever— but get out there and be available. This is not rocket science.

[–]Odglaf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, set a few goals easy ones. An action plan, move gradually towards it. You see mate our minds are wired to win. So if you think you can´t do squat then you won´t be able to. Give an escort a go, no biggie. There are plenty of sites for that, and they aren´t that expensive at all.

[–]KewlThanks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

do you trust the source? i would do an escort so you can say it was a date that happened to turn into sex and not get into trouble, but yeah do that, girls can feel when you're sexually satisfied and want in

[–]ShavedApel 9 points10 points  (6 children)

in my 20s here and I'm in the same boat as you. Keep working hard, get a hobby and see at least 1-2 new prostitutes a week if your making good money with no kids to take care of.

[–]Solistx 1 points1 points [recovered]

I appreciate the suggestion man. While I have no qualms with those that do, I just don't see myself using prostitutes as a solution. Something tells me I'd feel like a shell of a person afterwards.

[–]IvyExcess 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've never used prostitutes, but it's literally the same thing as a one night stand that you pay for. You'd feel the exact same after meeting a girl at a bar, gaming her, fucking her, and never seeing her again. Try it once and see how it feels. Sometimes the 0-1 step after a dry spell is the biggest leap, then it gets much easier.

[–]iamtherealandy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. You would feel like a shell of a person.

[–]ShavedApel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'd feel like a shell of a person afterwards.

When you said you feel like shooting your self and you havn't gotten laid in 5 years. I kind of assumed you felt that way already...

[–]kagetsuki32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think dubai sheikhs or hollywood superstars feel like shell when they use one.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

You're doing great for your age AS A PROVIDER. As a man, you're probably still in diapers. You need some time to yourself to think. Specifically, I want you to think about (and research) the following questions, beginning now and ending on your 24th birthday:

  • What is the use of money? What opportunities do you get from having an income higher than the average person in your age range?
  • What kind of guys do your preferred type of woman SAY they want? What kind of guys are empirically fucking those women? What's the difference between the two?
  • What is the meaning of life? Why were you put on this planet?

Having definitive, well-researched thoughts on these subjects will help you to build a durable, lasting frame. Frame is THE MOST important component in attracting a potential woman. Without it, you're dead in the water.

Once your frame is nailed down, I'm prescribing you a one-year self-improvement plan. Between now and your 25th birthday, you will do the following, every day, without complaining or arguing.

  • Read one non-fiction book every month. Acceptable topics include weightlifting, finance, entrepreneurship, red pill relationship-building, and overall life improvement. Stay away from political bullshit and anything remotely blue-pilled. Both are cancers designed to trap lesser men.
  • Get a big 3 score above 1000. Be able to bench 1.5 times your body weight for 10 reps.
  • Prepare and eat your own healthy meals, every meal, every day. Throw your sugary drinks in the trash. Limit your caffeine to pre-workouts.
  • Get an entirely new wardrobe. No Nike / Adidas / Under Armour. Dress like an adult.
  • Keep your home and car in pristine cleanliness.

Got questions? Tough shit. Don't know how? Use Google. The first lesson of being a man is this: no one truly gives a shit enough to do your work for you. If you want happiness, self-improvement, or a better life, you have to do the work.

Report back at 25 with your progress. Good luck, and godspeed.

[–]Olyver 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Lol when you're reading this and you're already 25 and still in rock bottom. Me btw.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Replace 24 and 25 with 26 and 27.

The only thing stopping you is you.

[–]Andgelyo 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Develop yourself further. If you haven’t gotten laid in 5 years then you are doing something wrong. Perhaps your aura or personality is not masculine enough to give off tingles. Perhaps women see you as a beta provider instead of a sexy alpha guy. My advice (which is easier said than done) is to simply go for it and not give a fuck. Seriously, start hitting on girls IRL and messaging girls on tinder while immediately escalating.

Example (tinder): Me: My anaconda don’t want none unless you got buns hun Her: oh I got some type of buns lmao Me: you’re gonna have to show me in person Her: and you’re gonna have show me your snake in person Me: give me your number (50/50 chance she’ll give it, if she does great, if not I stop talking and move on)

[–]aretoon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Dude sorry but that is the worst opening line ever 😂 if it worked however props!

[–]Andgelyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Works for me, may not work for others. Your result may vary obviously

[–]Heizenbrg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stop being afraid of peoples judgment. Say what you want.

[–]Dymatizeee 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm the same age as you and also make over 60k. Before i got my job, i was getting 0 girls. After i got my job and decided to focus on myself with hobbies (lifting, reading, and cooking primarily) and changed my mindset with girls and life, everything changed. How often are you putting yourself in situations to fail with women? I got rejected a ton, but I was also a lot more successful. I'm short as fuck and i'm asian. If it can work for me, it'll work for you

[–]d3nominata 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Duuude....martial arts as NE Nomad said. Go for it. You'll blow steam, enter a brotherhood with some badass alpha dudes in it, kicking each other ass and laughing it off at the end of the day, and even get a hell of a workout. I started BJJ only a couple months ago, but I can definitely tell you I'm a better man for it.

[–]Sumsar01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Getting really depressed and breaking almost always does the trick. You might not want to do that though. Getting rejected or loosing a lot while still fighting on also helps a lot. Maybe go approach women to get shit on will help or do something hard that increase stress tolerance like hard strength training.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lift and read books. Also, get a dog. Try Jeesus, if doesn't work, try the Muslim one.

[–]Frich3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This may go unseen but I haven’t been on here for a week or so. I swear to god on my nieces I fucked that chick that said “all my boyfriends I break up w/ tell me they want to kill themselves”. Met her at a bar in Houston one weekend w/ her friends. Kissed got number and that was it. Next day went to get milkshakes from potbelly’s and since I have a townhome downtown she came over and “watched a movie”. 30 min later she’s saying “I hope you don’t think we are gonna have sex”. Mind you it’s 2pm and she has to leave for 3pm to make it to Austin for 6pm because someone is watching her dog at her apartment. Then 10 min later it’s “I haven’t shaved”. Long story short fucked her and we texted for a few weeks and she said when she came back down to Houston she would come see me. Never seen her since. Guess it was just right place right time. She’s kinda insta famous but I also play basketball so it kinda balanced out since I said I “prefer real world interactions”. Hmm maybe I should do a field report and include the texts. Oh well, these hoes come and go. Face isn’t all that but her body is def top 5 for me.

[–]OfficerWade 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Now thats a hard act to follow. you're telling us to do the opposite of her Frame and the opposite of crazy is still crazy. So yes, lift, and be aware of which frame you're operating in but dont judge yourself for it.

[–]NorthEasternNomad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just stay in your frame. Dont be an asshole and totally ignore her. Or neglect. Just dont get drug into her negotiation for sex, emotional decision making frame.

[–]naIamgood 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Men here at redpill are almost sad they they won't have a family or a good girl. According to me the new world gives men the same if not more freedom than a women . You don't have eat from the same place. You ugly? Get a different hooker each week on www.hooker.com.

[–]NorthEasternNomad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My relationship is much improved lately, thanks to Red Pill. As for family...I'm not having kids, by choice.

[–][deleted] 268 points269 points  (89 children)

The more you are exposed to instant and short- term information, more you lose the ability to think long-term. Usually young people live more in the moment, but it´s getting worse because everything is dopamine based. Everything is flashy, fast, unique and stimulating.

The consequence is that you gonna pay in the future, because you lose long-term perspective. Once you´ll hit the wall, there´s no coming back. Reality will change. A new life will start and the blame and the pointing fingers too.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 199 points200 points  (81 children)

The amount of pre 30 girls I see doing literally nothing with their lives is astounding. Worse yet, there's a fairly large contingent of males doing the same.

Guys at 30 taking gap years, quitting their jobs at a minutes notice with no back up plan.

Yet I see both of these groups displaying a life of joy and luxury on social media sites.

One reason for this is certainly lack of responsibility in terms of kids. That's being done later and later, and second of all lack of responsibility in terms of bond/car/business repayments.

Lastly is the "great life" effect of Social Media, that drives them to just up and leave their career in pursuit of greener pastures, compounded by the fact that every one seems to be doing it due to highlight reel posting.

Parents also seem more willing than ever to support kids for longer and longer, this give the kid a false sense of comfort. They've only ever known comfort or for things to turn out "ok" which makes them more prone to making rash, impulsive decisions.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 103 points104 points  (30 children)

Living in Las Vegas you see a lot of this. I'm sure its also the same in other metro areas that feature a big nightlife and social scene. The smaller the city I've lived in, the more younger adults have their shit together, from what I've learned.

In Las Vegas you have so many pre-30 year olds, even those over 30, who seem to have no plan in life. Their life seems to revolve around partying, clubbing, and those types of activities. No idea how they can afford to do nothing with their life like that. At least the escorts/strippers around here have a plan for their lives and are financially responsible.

[–]askmrcia 75 points76 points  (27 children)

No idea how they can afford to do nothing with their life like that.

If they are anything like the women in my social circle or the women I dated, it's because they use their debt.

My last ex clearly spelled out to me how she was having financial issues. Then low and behold she books trips to Vegas New Orleans and Nashville.

Her reasoning was "I'm young and the flights don't cost too much. I got good deals. Plus it's good to get all my traveling done now since I'm young. I'll worry about my issues later when I'm older."

Yup she said that. My sister who fuckin majored in accounting of all things said

"you're always going to be in debt. So you don't need to worry about it too much."

Also being a personal banker at one stage in my life I was literally astounded how bad people are with finances. You would think some of this shit would be common sense, but women and people in general are so damn fixated on living up to their social media lives that they would go into lots of debt to do so.

[–]TehRoot 1 points1 points [recovered]

The major triumph of the banking and credit industries is the normalization of the idea that having debt is "normal" and the penalization of being debt free.

[–]booochi 22 points23 points  (10 children)

Debt Enslavement is the biggest atrocity put forth on millennial's and Gen Z. We actually champion people who choose to go into major debt, whether in be a house, family, car, family or school. Social media has made it worse and has pushed the travel, tech and fashion industries to new heights and has influenced the youth to go into lifestyle debt. It's almost laughable to me when someone tells me they "bought a house," yet no nothing about making their money/assets work for them.

The biggest slavery machine is the modern educational system, plain and simple. For example, Foreign students who come to this country are hit with a six figure debt (after graduation) to study in America. After school, they are trapped in debt for the next 10-20 years. A lot of these students default on their debt (because they can't finish school) and go back to their home, leaving a relative (co-signer) in America with their debt.

[–]MarinTaranu 6 points7 points  (6 children)

The problem is that people choose worthless, easy majors (women's studies) versus bonafide education, geared towards the need of the market - STEM. So, naturally, you will end up with a supersaturation of persons with worthless degrees who lack ability to pay for their educational experience. And this debt is non-discharged in bankruptcies, and stays on the books forever, collecting interest, till the day you die.

[–]ImpressiveDig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this 100%. the debt to income ratio on these degrees is just too high, these kids an't even pay the tuition on their debt much less the principal. also they are hoping for the nationalization of student debt so people who make better choice financially and academically would bail them out.

[–]booochi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's straight up victimization and robbery of the youth. Schools have started to create courses based on the demands of the current market, not based on what is needed for the future. These kids are being suckered into taking on massive amounts of debt with bad terms. Schools allow it to happen and support it.

The best advice to give a kid is to be a capitalist and entrepreneur or study abroad in countries that provide free education.

[–]MarinTaranu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dual citizenship is the thing. I don't pretend to say which country is better or more generous, every place has its ups and downs, but it should be realized that the more options you have, the better it is for one. The main kicker is the language, and now, more and more European unis have programs in English, although it is not a bad idea to learn a foreign language to native level. The only country in Europe that charges some modest fees that I know of is The Netherlands and UK (except Scotland, which is very progressive).

[–]destraht 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Its has to gone one hard way or another such as a full or partial debt jubilees, massive debtors prisons and invalidating passports of debtors. Well, the IRS is now the next bureaucracy standing in the way of passport applications if you owe more than $35,000. Add in inflation and little life bumps will cost you world access and then they just keep kicking you Venezuela style (they are queued up for years to get a passport).

Passports were previously only denied for "dead beat dads" and that was through another agency. We are building a wall now and those go both ways. The censorship train is rolling out now with Roosh, Info Wars/Alex Jones and many more soon to come.

I just love it when the next stage of collapse kicks off. Makes me feel alive. I just have to order a new 10 year passport in the US when I return in 10 days. Then I have 10 years before I could be in a bad way since they are unlikely to cancel active passports at transit areas since that will create huge waves and panic. In that amount of time a foreign wife is the way to go. Their main MO is to not renew and they have to wait for that. If it gets even worse than this velocity of deterioration then I'll just have to abandon the place. That was always in the cards, its just a matter of how fast the elites want to totally fuck America and lock in down.

[–]MarinTaranu 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I got f-d up big time by the "deadbeat dad" bullshit, I went to the embassy to have pages added to my passport, and instead, they canceled my passport. With the current visa. While in Thailand. But I got wise. Weathered the storm, lived there illegally for a time and got a second citizenship based on bloodline. Long process, but worth it.

[–]destraht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good for you. You did better than my old second hand experience.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

From the states, but am currently finishing my grad degree overseas because while still expensive, it was much less than in the states and I'm getting done in one year instead of two.

I've read articles of young people escaping to live in places like Germany, because they would rather be a broke and working in a coffee shop, than living in America paying their off their tuition loans. Yet, what boggles the mind, is that interest is still accruing on their loans, so I'm sure some of these people will be stopped by security at the airport when they get back.

[–]booochi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They leave because they realize that they've been conned to be a slave for the next 10+ years after running the numbers. They did not do their due dillengence on the job market. I blame the schools for that. They honestly don't care if you graduate, they want to put you in debt ASAP. It's a silent system funded by elitist that subtle recruits youth into being enslaved under debt. Schools have become plantations, students have become slaves.

Some people cannot live on the wage they make because of the garnishment. The education system was never like this.

It's sad that people are so proud to promote schools, shame those who didn't go to a school and support this blatant victimization & robbery of the youth.

[–]johnbranflake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buying a house with debt is one the best ways to make your money work for you.

You always are paying off a mortgage, renting just means it’s someone else’s

[–]phoenix335 15 points16 points  (5 children)

And one day, one has the startling realization that there is indeed a connection between those who promote this lifestyle (the media, especially the porn media), those who profit from debt (the banks) and those politicians who aid and abet this process, with fighting every inch of conservatism left with ever increasing taxes.

There are individual people responsible for this development. Individuals who do so out of monetary gain. It's hard to dispute that. Dare to ask if there are individuals, groups or organizations who pursue and further the decline.

For anyone grown up in this climate, you might notice a coincidence, the ultimate taboo to think that they are connected. "It can't be, it should not be" you first think and then hope once you allow yourself to even remotely ponder that possibility. If you look at the institutions that may further the decline, there are people leading them. And once you allow yourself a second look at their last names, the coincidences immediately start to pile up a mile high. That is the ultimate red pill.

Like the chirping of a badly encrypted audio file, once you noticed, you keep on noticing.

[–]YoungManHHF 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I wonder what 1945 veterans think of this outcome🤔

[–]qiang_shi 8 points9 points  (1 child)

They knew it was happening then.

General George Patton pointed it out and was character assassinated for it.

[–]Solon64 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not just character assassination, actual assassination if you believe the rumours.

Run down by a friendly Jeep. Makes one wonder who was actually driving it.

[–]Priest_of_Power 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gettin into /pol/ territory here. I like it.

[–]DarkSouls_Prexus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unironically based and redpilled

[–]PinkPilledRed17 38 points39 points  (4 children)

A lot of them, if financially frugal, would have to live very boring lives with too many limits. Nobody would think they're cool. They also don't think they will ever save enough to have anything worth having, so why not live in debt like most of the population, and have fun all the time. Life is short. Social media selfies are forever.

[–]askmrcia 24 points25 points  (2 children)

You answered it perfectly and that's exactly the thought process behind it.

People are too scared to be boring or perceived to be boring because they keep trying one up everyone on social media. You can do fun things for cheap and free.

Yea you may not travel every two months, but you can save up and travel once a year to a cool place. While saving you won't live like a hermet if you know how to find things.

But hey people just don't get it.

[–]Compeliminator 7 points8 points  (1 child)

im in my 50s and i have a hard time wrapping my mind around the concept of how much millenials and gen z care about what people they havent met and most likely will never meet think of them on social media.

[–]derektwerd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm in my 20's (30 next month) and I also have a hard time with this

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Almost makes me wonder if once all this debt gets large enough, there will be some type of economic burst again.

[–]U-94 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think the last 10 girls I was out with, having one on one bar conversation, were in debt by thousands of dollars. Staggering. If not from dumb decisions when they were younger, it's all student loans for useless degrees. All pretty much are bartenders or hairdressers.

[–]alecesne 9 points10 points  (1 child)

There used to be a way to hold creditors accountable, Bankruptcy, which let some people off the hook but forced creditors to be less “generous” in lending. But we’ve made the rules so unilaterally in favor of creditors, ironically, that the average person has given up. Rather than allow individual banks to suffer for poor decisions, we bail them out and pin it on taxpayers, who can’t escape. Punishing the responsible to reward the imprudent.

[–]vakeraj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Buy Bitcoin. Secure it properly.

[–]Luckyluke23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

as an accountant my self i know she is right. i also know, she is a pretty shit accountant if she can't get out of it.

[–]SasquatchMcKraken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They afford it with credit. Most people (at least in the U.S.) are either drowning in debt or floating on top of it in a dinghy. Credit scores are holy writ these days.

[–]No1Buck 50 points51 points  (5 children)

I find it highly disturbing because these people can vote, and I live well below my means and save as much as I can for retirement. I'm concerned my nest egg will be targeted in the future.

[–]PinkPilledRed17 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Your concern is justified. You can count on your nest egg getting chipped away by inflation and higher taxes, also known as involuntary contributions toward non-savers.

[–]PhantomCowboy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think you see where this is going

[–]iLLprincipLeS 1 points1 points [recovered]

Why Women DESTROY NATIONS * / CIVILIZATIONS - and other UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTHS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw

[–]No1Buck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure so it's making me wonder why bother saving .

Big fan of BPS.

[–]TheOneWhoDidntCum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You mean you live in a pussified country like Canada?

[–]markinsinz7 41 points42 points  (12 children)

Where we are headed is full blown hookup culture all around. It's not just soyboys wifing up the girls but everyone even rich successful chads with numerous girls blowing their phones up. Truth is society as a whole is fucked cause the family construct was a base foundation of it all n that's done.

We'll have more & more divorced families, cheating hypergamous women - literally the most innocent types as well. All around cucking and all types of fucked up relationships.

Even the TRP advice of not marryin I worry is only in the face of negative consequences to the man's wallet but what about the negative consequences of weak pair bonding, of her missing the carousel, of her being a fuckin messed up whore on the inside cause of her promiscuous college years?..oh well Enjoy the decline ĺ

[–]karmalizing 39 points40 points  (9 children)

Everyone says "enjoy the decline," but when a read an article about it it never tells me how to actually enjoy it.

Its pretty damn unenjoyable, and I am top 20% or so. Smart, tall, have some money, not beta, lift things.

I really don't see how the bottom 80% is going to enjoy this anal raping at all, once shit starts hitting the fan.

[–]1neveragoodtime 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Exactly, I’m not worried about my life, I’m worried about the 80% when they realize their life has been made shit and they take to the streets looking for looting and welfare. Society either works for 80% of men or it gets burned down to the ground. All the fucking and lifting and earning isn’t going to change that. My hope is TRP is enough to make a difference for that 60% to turn things around.

[–]the99percent1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There wont be any burning. The soyboys will be too lethargic to do any of that.

Just look at Japan for what's to come.

Sexbots and fetishes will rise and rise. So will suicide rates for both men and women.

[–]kagetsuki32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Robots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRj34o4hN4I will break them to pieces if they start anything funny.

[–]untonyto 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Enjoying the decline is only viable until the decline turns around and starts 'enjoying' you.

[–]thetotalpackage7 0 points1 point  (2 children)

From a red pill, sexual strategy standpoint, the "enjoy the decline" references sampling the easy pussy that can be had if you are top 20% dude. You getting any beaver?

I'd also add that due to a mass influx of third world immigration and the dumbing down of society, school is easier and if you have a brain, you should be able to get a decent job. Mortgages are still cheap too.

Go get some.

[–]karmalizing 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah I have all that, getting laid isn’t an issue and never has been and I’ve owned multiple houses over the years.

I have more than those basics too, which I don’t need to get into. It’s just especially hard for me to “enjoy the decline” I suppose — I love America, truly, and don’t want to see it decline

[–]thetotalpackage7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you. It is hard when you have to watch the institutions & traditions that used to make America great come under constant attack. It's like an incurable cancer though that has been seeping through the west.

[–]kagetsuki32 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The decline is Cyberpunk, and the bottom 80% is not going to enjoy it. They will have a miserable life in slums, and die in total despair.

[–]karmalizing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, that's my assessment of it as well.

So please tell me how I should be enjoying my life in that scenario.

I'm not even a particularly empathetic person... it's just... that's pretty far outside the scope of my experience.

Do I need to start fucking learning how to homestead and farm? I mean cmon.

[–]kagetsuki32 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It is not a problem if the relationship have an expiration date from the start. 6 month, one year then next.

[–]markinsinz7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea that shitt is just pointless cause then the whole thing is kinda fake. Basically fwb with exclusivity and her gettin to tell every1 she got lucky.

But secretly unless u were the highest SMV she was banging, after gettin ur commitment she prolly starts getting bored

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 11 points12 points  (2 children)

The amount of pre 30 girls I see doing literally nothing with their lives is astounding. Worse yet, there's a fairly large contingent of males doing the same.

Guys at 30 taking gap years, quitting their jobs at a minutes notice with no back up plan.

Yet I see both of these groups displaying a life of joy and luxury on social media sites.

Wow, stunningly accurate reflection of the modern world

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Yeah it’s scary, they’re in this search for meaning, oblivious to the idea of creating meaning.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[M] 31 points32 points  (9 children)

FYI the term "gap year" indicates a break in education. Personally I wouldn't recommend doing so as it's difficult to resume school once you take a long break. On the other hand something I do highly recommend is the mini-retirement, aka an extended vacation, which is something I picked up from Tim Ferris in the book The 4 Hour Workweek.

The idea is every 5 years or so just take off and travel and do whatever you want to do when you retire, but for a limited amount of time. A 6 or 12-month mini-retirement won't drastically hurt your career like the 4 or 5 years women suffer when they dip out to have a kid and you're young enough to do a lot of stuff you'll be too old to enjoy if you wait until you're retirement age.

I had a 6 month break in 2012 and I'm gearing up to have another 6 to 12 month break in 2020. This time around I'm thinking of taking an extended cruise through the Caribbean Dec-Feb and then go live out west until it gets super hot.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The year break I’m referring to are guys who haven’t even established any sort of career yet, failure to launch effectively. The problem is there’s a fine line between being 25-30 with no Career experience and 35-40 with no career and I’m seeing more and more guys who have over shot the mark.

As for a break in career, you speak words of gold, I’m currently on a hiatus myself, grinded like a dog for the past 10 years and I’m now taking a bit of down time. Traveling, learning new languages, trying all those ridiculous ideas I’ve had but never had the time and when the right opportunity comes along I’ll jump right back in.

[–]AwakenedSovereign 2 points3 points  (5 children)

The career folks call that a sabbatical.

I've been working hard for about 6 years now and earn good money. More money than I need really for just myself (no wife no kids, no pets).

I was just thinking 2-3 months but 6 does sound nice. The ultimate version of this though is landing a 💯 % remote job. Work anywhere. Live anywhere. Do anything.

That and my fitness goals are about all I wake up for these days.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ultimate version of this though is landing a 💯 % remote job. Work anywhere. Live anywhere. Do anything.

That would indeed be the sweetest job ever. If they had adequate internet I'd be on a permanent cruise or beach vacation.

[–]inm808 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It’s also called getting an mba

At the top schools you just travel and party for two years. And presumably just walk back into your old job (or maybe a better one)

Basically a two year break that looks good on a resume. Some employers foot the bill themselves

[–]AwakenedSovereign 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Can you go into some more detail on this?

I know companies will pay for MBAs if the guy is a talented manager or something that needs paper to continue moving up the ranks.

But why would an MBA at a top school just be partying and travelling? Sounds off

[–]inm808 1 point2 points  (1 child)

the value of MBA is 99% the network you get

at stanford GSB for instance, its actually pass / no pass unless you are in the top 5% of students

at the same time, theres clubs where you travel to a different country every weekend. i wish i could post the instagrams of my friends who are in it now, its insane. like.. Napa one weekend, yacht club the next, hamptons the next, then greece, croatia, egypt, etc. All trips pre planned with top accomadations and packed itineraries

in theory you just go and become super bros with future captains of industry


lots of elite consulting firms and private equity places will send their employees to get the MBA rubber stamp, often paying tuition and holding a job for them while their on hiatus

i unfortunately am not in that career path. i may just go on leave and pay myself tho. looks super fun!

and at the end of 2 years its not a resume gap, it still has (dubious) value as a bullet point

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (1 child)

thats pretty intrsting man. every 5 years take some time out for you...

i love it.

[–]riggedved 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another way to look at it:

Like every moment of those 5 years, for you. Instead of being a pussy to take out 6-12 months out of those 5 years (what's like, like 10-20%?)

This mentality is the problem:

"I'm taking out time for myself."

It is actually very egoistic.

The absolute truth of life is that EACH AND EVERY SINGLE MOMENT YOU LIVE IS YOUR TIME. And your time only. No one else's.

It is only a matter of perspective.

So claim even your working hours as your time.

That way, you don't need this outcome dependent thinking "ooooh i worked so hard now I need me time." Be a man and own up to every time you spend on this planet as YOUR TIME.

[–]RedPilledRoaster 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Not worse for me. I benefit off all of this. Competition has never been weaker.

Only thing is... taxes.

[–]karmalizing 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Benefit how? Do you own land? Have a bunch of kids? Feel at peace and fulfilled?

Specifically, how are you benefiting?

[–]RedPilledRoaster 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Competition is weak. Therefore reaching the top is easier. See what I’m saying?

[–]karmalizing 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sure, and I'm asking what is the top for you

[–]RedPilledRoaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, as of now it’s just acquiring as many assets as possible.

So, for me, I’ve accepted and am kinda fine with the state of things. Plus pussy is everywhere and abundant for guys like us so we don’t really have that to worry about either.

If you’re looking to raise a family then sorry, you may just have to give up on that dream for now. Fortunately for me that’s never really been my goal.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea man i make 112k a year and pay 1/3rd of that in tax so fucking retards can sit at home and get high fuc ksakes

[–]newmeforever 3 points4 points  (4 children)

So what should women pre-30 be doing with their lives?

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Depends what they want long term.

If they want a career, then they should be building it. Although a career hasn't shown to bring too much happiness to the modern female.

If they want a high value man(essentially what biology drives them to obtain) and kids, then they should be trying to lock him down when her value is highest(18-25)

Partying, doing an excessive amount of nothing, riding the carousel certainly doesn't help her achieve either of these goals.

If they don't know what they want and goof around until they're 30 then that's fine, but they can't expect a high value man or a great career. They need to make do with their post wall options.

[–]Lizzle372 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How are they going to get a high value man at 25 when all these masculine men wont commit? And even if he does he'll probably cheat, or "spin plates" as you put it. Whats so high value about that

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It’s the women’s job to earn commitment. If they tried that instead of expecting commitment by virtue of having a pussy a lot of them might get somewhere.

I’m in an LTR, but she sure as hell earned it. I’m loyal, but it’s conditional. Conditional on her behavior.

They can’t expect commitment running around behaving like thots.

Most masculine guys I know are willing to offer some form of commitment(even if it’s not exclusivity) to a woman with few red flags.

[–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Parents also seem more willing than ever to support kids for longer and longer, this give the kid a false sense of comfort. They've only ever known comfort or for things to turn out "ok" which makes them more prone to making rash, impulsive decisions.

This is true. Though in my country ( the cuck down under) we have high unemployment, no wage growth and a housing market that is so high it makes snoop dogg look like he's sober.

[–]warty_toe 4 points5 points  (1 child)

What's wrong with a young man trying to travel to interesting places then posting to Instagram so he doesn't look boring as fuck amongst his peers - especially is woman followers.

I get what you mean about responsibility, and men of 30 should definetley have their own finances under control by that age. But what is wrong with people getting out to the greener pastures? Do we want to stay in our own little conservative communities forever ?

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's nothing wrong with it so long as they are managing their expectations accordingly.

I'm not saying they should do anything. I'm simply saying if they want to goof around before 30 they have to have the expectation that it's going to be a lot tougher to build a solid financial position by 35 than if they had started at 25.

What's wrong with a young man trying to travel to interesting places then posting to Instagram so he doesn't look boring as fuck amongst his peers - especially is woman followers.

How about they try and actually build the life(and live) the life they're trying so hard to convey on social media, instead of just projecting a false sense of success.

But what is wrong with people getting out to the greener pastures?

Nothing wrong with it, but need to question at what cost is it, is this serving my long term goals or is this purely serving short term. Can a balance be found that doesn't excessively compromise either, those are the questions one need's to be asking themselves.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 39 points40 points  (1 child)

The rise of extensive tattoos in highly visible places is a symptom of this short term thinking. Especially in women. Getting tats all up and down their arms, even grown women past 30. It looks fucking disgusting. They want to look “hardcore”. It’s a ridiculous trend and will look gross in 5-10 years (I think it looks repulsive now).

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Agreed, it's serves their current need for validation and attention.

Society had alot more filters that forced a woman to think more long term. E.g. Sluts never got to marry a high value man.

Those filters are gone, so a woman operates mostly on how she feels in the moment.

Plus side, tatted girls are an easy and good lay.

[–]Luckyluke23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The consequence is that you gonna pay in the future, because you lose long-term perspective. Once you´ll hit the wall, there´s no coming back. Reality will change. A new life will start and the blame and the pointing fingers too.

i thought that was the point of feminisum... so it DIDN'T change for them at that stage?

[–]Not_A_randomfakename 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Do you have any sources on losing the ability to think long term from constant short term things? Very interested in this

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It´s really not a question of losing. It´s more a question of prioritize, and with time you end up reinforce your brain into short term reward instead of long term reward. From the Cognitive Behavioural perspective if you constantly reward an action, your behaviour will go in that direction.

In this perspective you go from Action to Reinforcement of Pathways to a more "in your nature" set of behaviours, becoming part of your personality (Although there´s neuro plasticity until certain point, specially if doesn´t end up being "physiologically dominant" like a Cocain or an Heroin Dependence).

Also there´s a very interesting concept called Delayed Gratification or something like that, that´s been studied to be a good indicator of long term thinking and also a good predictor of sucess in achieve more complexe goals.

On a more Neuroscience perspective there´s modulation by dopaminergic and serotonnergic systems in short and long term goals (for example they are both important in impulse control which is an indicator of how your behaviour can be time frame oriented). They are also connected with violent behaviour and emotions regulation and all of that stuff.

It get´s very complex, because there will be interactions from your memory systems too (A lot of information interaction and integration between limbic system and pre frontal cortex). It can be a mess because some neurons modulate, others comunicate, others are located close to specific zones, others are active in specifc situations,etc.

Nothing in the brain acts alone but Dopamine has a significant role on the rewards and reinforcement systems and that will be a significant factor on what you will find more important or less important, specially concerning with the time frame orientation.

With concerns with Temporal Perspective (Time framed oriented behaviours), there´s a guy called Zimbardo, a psychologist that i think he had a TED talk speaking about how future time based behaviours are associated with better academic sucess and also better jobs .

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly this. Socially there is a drive to think more for now.

Think Instagram, it's all about showing off how good your "now" is.

No marriage, no kids, less responsibility. People want the good life now, not grinding it for 8 years and then living it.

The internet and cellphones has allowed us to travel but still stay close with our loved ones.

Culture dilution has made it easier for people to just up and move and go live somewhere else.

Society is operating more and more on feminine ideals, which is very "feelz" based(basically short-term), woman often behave short term. Men see this and think ah men and women are truly equal, we can also do that. The consequences for a man are far greater than a woman, she can atleast spread her legs for some providership. No one is going to look after the male.

Which then influences the cognitive behavior of an individual who gets wired to value short-term reward.

[–]1TimmyTurnersNuts 104 points105 points  (1 child)

Listen. FUCK ANYTHING OUTSIDE YOUR IMMEDIATE FAMILY AND YOUR GOALS. These hoes are a dime a dozen. Fuck and chuck, pump and dump and move on. I remember when I use to (back when I was 16-20) worrying about women and if she’s doing this and that. Wanna know what made me swallow that pill all the way? The fact that she IS ABSOLUTELY DOING WHATEVER SHE WANTS. You should too. Lift, focus on goals and chuck these hoes. That simple.

[–][deleted] 194 points195 points  (27 children)

I mean of course due to feminism and social media women are acting like absolute whores more than ever. But you have to realize that this guy is interviewing literally the cream of the crop of whores. Dumb college sluts on a night out at a bar crawl. The only way you could interview bigger whores is by going to a brothel.

Don't expect to find any reputable girl at places like this. I will NEVER LTR a girl I met while hooking up with them on a night out.

That being said, yeah I'm pretty sure we're fucked as a society. I cannot even imagine what western civilization is gonna look like in 20 years.

Migrant invasion, trannies everywhere, genderfluid 8 year-olds, soyboy nice guys, 80% of women being whores...

I honestly think this cultural clash is gonna come to a head within the next decade or two.

That's why TRP says just enjoy the decline. If you lift, stay lean, have good finances, etc you can absolutely slay in the current SMP.

[–]Mattcwu 1 points1 points [recovered]

I honestly think this cultural clash is gonna come to a head within the next decade or two.

It did come to a clash, with the 2016 Presidential Election. That's how our society settles dispute, with Democracy. Unfortunately, the results were so close that it's not clear which faction in society is bigger. Hopefully the Democrats run a transgender person in 2020, or a person who uses the phrase "toxic masculinity". Then they will get a chance to see where society stands on these issues.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (6 children)

Yeah the problem is that just seemed like a first skirmish of what's to come. I genuinely think there will be some type of conflict over this in the next 20 years. The people getting killed type of conflict.

At some point Europe is gonna hit a boiling point when they continue to let muslims pour into their open borders, leech off of their social services, rape the women, and attack the men. Look at the number of far-right parties that gained massive grounds in European countries. Their numbers will only swell as shit starts to get worse.

And I'm not even saying ban all migrants. I know there are some well-educated and moderate muslims that make great contributing members of society. But letting them in by the millions with no type of vetting will lead to a bloodbath in the future I'm sure of it.

[–]johnyann 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I’ve heard the US as being in a Cold Civil War right now.

[–]lukesterboi1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It pretty much is, you'll get beat up on the coasts and in most universities (and some high schools) for wearing a trump hat or worse if you're unlucky, and people won't like you very much anywhere else if they find out you're a leftist (though they won't hurt you or anything)

[–]johnbranflake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It seems like it because of social media but really its nothing. The 1960s were much much worse. Including THOUSANDS of bombings per year by domestic groups.

[–]lukesterboi1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Letting them in by the millions will end up getting people to agree to ban them all, one bad person can leave a sour taste in the mouth about an entire people very easily

[–]Mattcwu 1 points1 points [recovered]

America's situation is a lot different than Europe's. At least I think it is, I don't know much about Europe.
In America, we are not going to let millions of Muslims into the country. I honestly think in 2020, Democrats will run a well-spoken person with very little history of corruption. Someone like Barack Obama in 2008. They will steer clear of these ultra progressive issues and they will win the election. Things will cool down as both sides realize that the extremists are only a small minority.
Most liberals don't change any of their behaviors because of "toxic masculinity", "structural racism", or "the dreaded 1%".
With their election win, Democrats will probably raise taxes on both the rich and the working class, and that will hurt us a bit, but it will probably be the worst thing they do to us. (this is all wild speculation of course :)

[–]the99percent1 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Tbh.. the next few elections are still the boomers election.

Just wait until a mellennial gets elected to truly see the results of the past 2 decades of modern feminism.

[–]richbordoni 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Just look at Justin Trudeau

[–]lukesterboi1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lmao you think THAT is the clash? That is only the beginning. Wars have been fought over much less (like slaves/free labor. Granted that isn't something small, it's still much less when compared to rights to the vaginas in the west or some shit). Imagine what the war(s) over migrants/women/etc will be like.

[–]n8dawwg 23 points24 points  (1 child)

You hit the nail on the head. As a father of a boy who will be 13 early next year, it terrifies me what he may end up being with later on. The only thing I'm hoping that I can drill into his head is that he needs to put himself first forever. Education, job, Fitness, frame. If you wants to go off of being a bunch of bitches at fine but he better not even think about getting serious with one until in his 30s or ever at all. The market will be over saturated with a bunch of dumb bitches who would never make an ideal LTR. May God have mercy on us all

[–]geo_gan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If my son grows up and ends up LTRing the first loser thot that shows him attention I have failed as a father.

[–]sorry_mommy 41 points42 points  (2 children)

genderfluid 8 year-olds

Can you imagine what life must be like for these kids even by the time they hit their late teens? Desperately confused, depressed, wondering why everything in their life doesn't feel like it fits right.... I dunno man, something has gone fundamentally wrong and it's not going to end well.

[–]lukesterboi1 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Genderfluid 8 year olds are like vegan cats

We all know who is making the decisions

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

The already sky-high suicide rate for trans people is gonna get higher because we're appeasing their rush to lop their dicks off instead of getting them the mental help they need.

I've swayed a few of my friends on the subject with this line of logic. I said:

"Think about how retarded you were at 12 years old. Now think about how 12 year olds right now are taking irreversible hormones and chopping off their dicks. They have no long-term consideration for what this means to them since they haven't really hit puberty yet. They are resigning themselves to a life of not being able to have an orgasm or sexual pleasure besides taking it up the ass. Imagine making an irreversible life-altering decision as a retarded 12 year old. Yeah it's ridiculous."

[–]womans_algorithm 7 points8 points  (0 children)

In other words, if you are searching through the trash, dont expect to find a diamond.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Don't expect to find any reputable girl at places like this.

Where do you find any reputable girl their age? It's fucking over. The attractive one's we'd consider are all corrupted from social media/internet influence unless they were raised in a different society completely. It's like trying to take piss outta the ocean. It's too late.

Enjoy the decline. Fuck sluts, use a condom, plate them, don't LTR any western societal girl, and most importantly, set your goals and priorities and focus on achieving them above all else.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

The only hope for me is what I like to call the "late-bloomers". Girls who were 4's - 6's in high school and then really came into their own in college.

One of my plates is one of those. She's a solid HB8 right now but if I'm being honest she was a 5 back in high school from the photos I've seen. She was a virgin when we met and I've taken her virginity. She doesn't hook up with other guys and yet knows I hook up with other women. She's been pushing for me to commit the past 2 or so months and I'm considering it. Obviously AWALT but 20 year old hot virgins who cook and clean for you don't come around all that often.

That being said I would venture to say that 99% of 9's and 10's today are just massive thots. All girls are self-conscious, and what's an easier way to tell yourself that you're pretty than riding dick all through college.

[–]AllahHatesFags 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Women who cook and clean are a fucking rarity already. Most of them are literally proud of the fact that they can't cook!

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

True, but the actual women in this video is not the point. The mentality of the average women in Gen-Z is.

I will NEVER LTR a girl I met while hooking up with them on a night out

Agreed, however the pool of women I would LTR coming out of Gen-Z is minute. You'll have better luck spotting sharks on the beach.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yep the decent girls still do exist but it's just such a small percentage. Only gonna get worse too as these Gen-Z whores start having daughters and teaching them their thot ways.

[–]-DeadLock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They wont reproduce for the most part.

[–]Aggressive_Beta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you worried about immigrants?

[–]Orig_analUse_rname 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slaying? That's your final goal in all of this.

[–]askmrcia 45 points46 points  (6 children)

I think you're wrong on some things.

I don't see too many nice guys or beta guys dating these types of women shown in the video.

The guys dating or banging these women are the types of guys you see as alphas. You think some nerdy comp Sci kid is going to have any chance with some bar club girl?

Hell no. So your point on feminization of men being the reason these women are acting like this is wrong in my opinion. Women act the way they act because they can and no one is allowed to shame women.

Second thing:

You're putting way too much stock in what these women say. One of the main rules here is watch what they do and not what they say.

I've seen so many youtube guys that fake and stage shit to get a human reaction. I wouldn't doubt that this dude told the women who were drunk on how to respond to his questions. And even if he didn't, he is interviewing drunk chicks out clubbing. Let's see if we get different answers from girls at a library, gym (the ones that actually workout) or something.

With all that said yes I'm well aware that alot of young women act like the ones in the video. But look at those types of women.

They come actoss as spoiled and had everything handed to them. Literally the only issues they faced in life was boy problems.

We all know how their lives will play out eventually. Unless mommy and daddy can keep supporting them, they will end up exactly like my sister and all her friends who spent their entire 20s partying and going from guy to guy.

That is single moms or poor. It's amazing how many people try to live up to their fake social media life and pay for it in real life.

So many people (women) go on these vacations and spend endless amounts of money racking up their debt.

[–]superdoofus69 1 points1 points [recovered]

The guys dating or banging these women are the types of guys you see as alphas. You think some nerdy comp Sci kid is going to have any chance with some bar club girl?

beta/alpha doesn't exactly correlate with ugly/hawt. The only kinds of guys that would date these girls are definitely betas, or else they would know better. They're just probably good looking betas

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Answered it for me. They're Blue Pilled. Their bitch management skills are nill.

Could be the most popular, ripped Alpha beast you've ever seen, if he is obssessed with her, spills out his feelings all the time, has zero abundance, has oneities(beta traits) eventually she'll realise he can't be all that Alpha after all and leave him and laugh about him in a YouTube video.

[–]get-tilted 1 points1 points [recovered]

watch what they say and not what they do

Psssst... I think you mean “watch what they do and not what they say.”

[–]askmrcia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea i did, good catch. Fixed

[–]sorry_mommy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The guys dating or banging these women are the types of guys you see as alphas. You think some nerdy comp Sci kid is going to have any chance with some bar club girl?

But these are the types of girls who have a "boyfriend" who she met in class waiting for them back home, whom they told they were going out on a girls' night to a wholesome dinner at Dennys. The bf they can show to their parents and on facebook, while exploring their sexual madness in private.

[–]justtenofusinhere 175 points176 points  (15 children)

Two things:

1) Don't put so much stock into what these girls are saying. They are on the spot with televised attention, they'll say anything they think will get them validation. Watch what they do, ignore all else.

2) Be grateful we live in a society where women are free to act as they wish. There is no reason for any man, anywhere, to not understand in full what women are. This is a level of knowledge and understanding men have never had previously. As a result, men have an unprecedented capacity to deal with women. This is a good thing for men if they'll just accept the responsibility the freedom requires.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 49 points50 points  (1 child)

To point 1, The video is a small part of it, the majority of my perspective comes from interacting with Gen Z socially on a very regular basis.

Be grateful we live in a society where women are free to act as they wish.

Don't think we should be grateful, but it is what it is and accepting that is important. Secondly the way woman act is very influenced from a social perspective. Is it benefitting them? Is it benefitting men on the whole? I think neither since both groups are showing declines in happiness.

there is no reason for any man, anywhere, to not understand in full what women are.

Agreed, however be aware that most men are BP programmed, which prevents them from understanding women for what they are.

As a result, men have an unprecedented capacity to deal with women

Agreed, so long as they are aware of a woman's nature as it truly is and not how they've been told it is.

[–]daemon86 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The freedom doesn't make people unhappy, it's just that men don't get it and don't have their shit together.

And OP what you say in your post is true for big cities, but maybe not everywhere. I guess it depends on what context you are in. Idk, we just have to stop giving women so much attention.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (10 children)

Be grateful we live in a society where women are free to act as they wish.

Just shut up and be grateful as you watch female choice sink the greatest civilization in history, you stupid rubes.

[–]midnight_metro 14 points15 points  (1 child)

And who allowed them to do that? Can it truly be called the greatest civilization in history if it was ruined by slutty women? Men are just as responsible for allowing this to happen.

[–]unyin 11 points12 points  (3 children)

the greatest civilization in history

You sound like you've never been outside the USA in your life. Travel might help you see things differently.

[–]SpecialistParticular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What, to Canada? Europe? Oh god, plz say Mexico!

[–]johnbranflake -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Places outside of the USA haven’t sent a man to the moon.

[–]Pelmaleon 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Don't be so pessimistic bro. That mentality will undoubtedly toxically sink into other areas of your life (mood, etc).

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh I know. I try.

[–]bountyhunterdjango -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

Loooool how is civilisation sinking because of women man? Because some dudes find it more difficult to get pussy?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Because some dudes find it more difficult to get pussy?

Actually yes. Civilization is driven by the reasonably equitable division of pussy, which motivates men to produce more than they consume. Just because I am doing decently well for myself in the new system does not mean I don't recognize this fact.

[–]1dongpal 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Watch what they do, ignore all else.

But they actually do what they say...

[–]Pelmaleon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't say "ignore all else". Absolutes are almost always absolutely wrong as there may be circumstances in which they don't hold true.

[–][deleted] 99 points100 points  (7 children)

You know full well all these girls all think they give amazing head when in fact they barely get any grip on the shaft

[–]Dabunghole 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just grab her head and gag her lol. Her pain makes it feel so much better

[–]SlothOnRoids 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I personally prefer no hands when getting my cock sucked.

[–]Francko93 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Dude, same for me. Like, bxtch, get your hands off my cock.

[–]Orig_analUse_rname 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd just go jack off if that's what I wanted.

[–]Thunderbird93 55 points56 points  (3 children)

I think its about novelty. Girls get bored with selfless guys who fawn over them. Ethical egoism is underrated. A guy who pursues his own interests has less time for a chick and that scarcity creates value.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Yes ethical egoism is the current answer I’ve settled on

[–]UshankaDalek 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I like this new term. (and also your username)

[–]Thunderbird93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks bro,much appreciated. Stay blessed

[–]CuckedSam 77 points78 points  (4 children)

You just made me listen to drunk whores for 6 minutes.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 48 points49 points  (1 child)

I couldn’t be the only fucker that had to endure it so I made a post about it

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny thing is, I saw the exact same video previously myself months ago so it must be popular and being promoted by youtube system...

[–]1dongpal 13 points14 points  (0 children)

the only time they are telling the truth is when they are drunk

[–]DownyGall 57 points58 points  (23 children)

But I was told that Gen Z was our savior! /s

LOL to anyone thinking this. If anything, they're worse than Millennials because they've only been marinated in this shit society. At least Millennials had a semblance of a life before the internet and smart phones.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (13 children)

Yea that shit is absurd. Conservatives have been convincing themselves that everything is about to turn itself around and we are about to wake up from this nightmare for the last 50 years, because life is a giant Disney movie and the righteous always come out on top right?

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Fuckin right. Nailed it.

“Gen Z is akshually the most conservative generation since WWII.”

Right. Loaded with thots and “I’m with her” soycucks.

The libs have their own bullshit narrative about gen z too. About how “oh they’re so fed up with what the old dumb people are doing— they want ‘common sense’ gun control, socialist policies, they’re less judgemental, etc. Aren’t they so Progressive!?”

Fuckin hell its too much man. We need a new master morality aristocracy to emerge from this shitshow and take the wheel before China devours us.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They're conservative in the sense that they support Trump not because they agree with his policies but because they like his trolling and this his twitter is funny.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, which is hardly conservative. It’s just the rebellious troll teens. Hey I get it, I like his trolling too. It’s amusing. But conservative, no.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

America is the perfect shitstorm. Out here riding on a bicycle with no handle bars.

[–]DownyGall 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You hear it from Gen Zers the most too. Like guys, shut up. There are tons of great millennials too, but we're not under any delusions. Maybe it's being young and the Millennials were cocky when younger until everyone started hating them. I'm sure everyone's going to hate on Gen Z except for the woke Leftist media for how diverse they are.

[–]rigbed 2 points3 points  (7 children)

They could be conservative but not traditionally conservative

Like trump is a man whore who saved the Republicans

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

True. He is a relatively new phenomenon though. He is basically the long awaited repudiation of the "losing with dignity - everything is gonna be ok" Republican branch.

[–]DownyGall 5 points6 points  (3 children)

The conservatives for the last 100 years have just advocated for slower change than progressives. They don’t actually stand for anything.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't know if that's determined by their actual beliefs or by what they perceive as being politically possible though.

[–]DownyGall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's spineless for whatever reason and it also doesn't inspire anyone. The Republicans had this problem hence the Tea Party and Trump. The Democrats have less of this problem because they've actually accomplished things in the last 80 years that aren't for corporate interests, but even then, they have a problem and hence Bernie Sanders.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (1 child)

He’s really a repudiation of the ruling elites. Remember, he slashed his way through 16 Republicans before he sent Stumbles McMyTurn home to Chappaqua to a life of empty liquor bottles and broken dreams.

We don’t have two parties, we have two branches of a “National Party” that only cares abt perpetuating themselves in power. Does anyone think the GOP really wants smaller govt? Nope. And the Dems don’t give a 3 day old shit abt the “little guy”. If they did they’d have built the Wall years ago to protect American wages.

Trump is the backlash of the white working class who are sick of working more for less then being discarded when they are no longer convenient all the while being told how Pedro from Meh-ico will do the job cheaper (GOP) and is better than they are because he’s a brown guy (Dems). So the peasants gathered up their torches and pitchforks and crossed the moat. Twice.

Trump may be a bloviating narcissist, but he wasn't “business as usual”, and so he won.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that the GOP does want smaller government but that the average voter just wants more free shit, and the politicians respond to voter preferences.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 4 points5 points  (5 children)

But I was told that Gen Z was our savior! /s

I don't think they have any interest in saving anything. I have kids that are millennials. I have kids that are Z. The older kids call their younger siblings Generation Zyklon. The Outrage Culture needs to get their shit under control or they will find their heads next to the pile of progressive Jacobin heads. And it won't be my generation that kicks the ball to start that game.

[–]DownyGall 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Generation Zyklon is a meme. If you think the first generation to be majority nonwhite will start a reign of terror, I have a bridge to sell you.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No. I don't expect that. Nor were the Jacobins a majority. Nor were those that replaced them. Nor were those that replaced those that replaced them.

History already told this story. Spend some time reviewing it.

[–]DownyGall 0 points1 point  (1 child)

History doesn’t repeat itself, bubby. It rhymes. And no need to condescend.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure it does. It's just the names and the weapons that mutate.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I use to play with a stick in the sand. Times have changed too quick too fast.

[–]DownyGall -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Definitely. When I was a kid in the late 90s/early 2000s, there were obviously video games, etc., but nothing like it is today.

[–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL to anyone thinking this. If anything, they're worse than Millennials because they've only been marinated in this shit society.

Bullshit. I'm not going to be that guy and make it seem my generation was better. They are just as bad as millennials.

[–]goldaxis 40 points41 points  (13 children)

I don't even like using public bathrooms, much less enjoy a vag that sees action with a different guy every month (week?).

A lot of people here say "don't worry about it, just lift etc", but it doesn't help if you want a family and a decent life. I'm jacked and can get pretty much any girl for a night, but I have no desire for it whatsoever. I see some millennials with kids and good marriages. Feels like I'm missing another side to the story.

[–]midnight_metro 1 points1 points [recovered]

No one is saying take everything spoken here as gospel. AWALT is a defense that will protect you from divorce rape and the nature of female solipsism, but only a moron thinks literally every single woman is the exact same.

Good marriages occur, but are rare. If that's what you want, go for it, just be aware of the potential consequences.

[–]goldaxis 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Is there any kind of TRP for finding those rare cases?

[–]the99percent1 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Ranked in priority.

1) Low partner count. 2 max. Never had ONS or casual sex. BONUS: She isnt a party girl.

2) She's in great shape. Works out or at least, slim. BONUS: She eats healthily, and even knows how to cook a meal.

3) If she has had partners, it was in the boundaries of a monogamous long term relationship. BONUS: she didnt cheat whilst in a relationship, including cheating with you.

4) Consequently, she isnt alpha widowed.

5) Does not have any debt whatsoever and knows how to spend within her own limits. BONUS: She actually has some savings, Health insurance and a job.

6) Parents are not divorced and her dad was a good father figure that brought her up well.

7) Her mom isn't a total bitch, still respects her dad and still in good shape.

8) She works a female oriented job. I.e. nurse, teacher, secretary, clerk, etc.

9) She doesnt have a man-jaw, moustache or any indication of high T from all the cock carousel she's been up to.

If a girl even shows 5 or 6 of these traits, you can definitely consider marriage/kids with her.

But again, be wary. AWALT.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I can't believe how many retards my age (early 20's) end up LTRing a girl who cheated on her boyfriend with them. What the fuck are they thinking?

With most girls you can just assume they've cheated before but these guys have literal first-hand proof the girl is a cheating whore and still choose to commit. Fuck's sake grow a pair.

[–]Aggressive_Beta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BONUS: she didnt cheat whilst in a relationship, including cheating with you.

That’s not a bonus, that should be an automatic requirement

⁠Does not have any debt whatsoever

This makes no sense. Debt is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact it can be a good thing if you’re investing your money in something that yields a higher interest rate.

Besides that pretty much automatically eliminates girls who went to college or have a car loan. That’s a stupidly arbitrary rule.

You should be avoiding women who are bad with money.

[–]succulove293726j 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fine tune your vetting skills and date around. I ask a lot of questions that give me indication of where they stand financially and how financially literate they are. And watch to see if they have discipline. Personally, finance and discipline are my big two. As soon as I realize they don’t make the cut I forget about them and on to the next.

[–]Finding_Simo 1 points1 points [recovered]

Is there some sort of answer to this in TRP?

[–]SasquatchMcKraken 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, it just requires a long-term and more creative application of the sidebar. Plenty of dudes on here are married and there's even a married spin-off reddit.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's not that it's not possible, there are some conservative girls out there, just not many.

And even then, strict vetting is required.

Too many guys wanting a family are trying to turn whore's into housewifes.

[–]macalpinerules 56 points57 points  (10 children)

Women dump men more readily today because they are freer and more empowered than at any point in human history. Most women have always had an abundance of options, just not the freedom and empowerment to explore them. Now that they have freedom and empowerment they are actively exploring their options to the fullest; this means hopping out of one relationship and into the next at the drop of hat and having more fun and pleasure than 98% of men even know is possible.

Hello feminism 👋

[–]daemon86 19 points20 points  (4 children)

What you described has nothing to do with feminism, but with globalization and liberalization which benefits men too. We are also free to move to a city and do whatever we want, today. We are not expected to marry or something like that. Freedom is for all, but men don't use it. We are too stupid to make use of it.

[–]TehRoot 17 points18 points  (1 child)

There's a growing stigmatization of men that exercise their freedom then there was 30 or even 15 years ago. The pendulum has been shifting for awhile now.

[–]daemon86 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That's true. The society is really gyno-centric. But we are still free, who cares what people think. We should try not think about that and just do what we want. Women don't care if they are called sluts so I don't care when people call me a misogynist. Whatever. Haters gonna hate

[–]macalpinerules 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Feminism definitely has something to do with it. Feminism extinguished the notion that a promiscuous woman is a "whore" or "Slut". Women of past generations feared few things more than they feared the whore label. Nowadays a woman will laugh at you for calling her a whore and proceed to work on the cock she happens to be entertaining that day.

By the way, I don't think any of this is necessarily bad. I believe in maximum individual freedom for all people, male and female.

[–]1dongpal 5 points6 points  (2 children)

So they win. She can enjoy as many cocks as she wants for many years, and when she becomes older she gets the ATM human. Win-win situation for them.

[–]naIamgood 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So same thing you can do. Be successful and fuck girls you can. If you need more sex get hookers for $200 on hookers.com monthly. Never get married unless it's to a decent looking women who earns same or more than you.

[–]Jackpot807 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know this is a month old but

Never get married unless it's to a decent looking women who earns same or more than you.

lol does not exist

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Until they hit the wall, then they are competing against the clock and their own younger better looking "empowered" females....

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

We know the competition. Many of us were in a bad spot. Makes it easy to stay out of there. It’s nothing new what these gals said, it’s good to hear it from the horses mouth.

I don’t disagree with their reasonings. I know how much off a turnoff a needy overcommitted person is. I know I don’t want to go slumming for my girls. Its a fairly rational decision on their parts.

Go forth & slay my friend. Its out there for the taking.

[–]jkp99 46 points47 points  (12 children)

God is dead, we have become our own gods.

Alpha men, taking self-improvement serious, becoming the best version of yourself - is like becoming your own god.

You are, voluntarily, not because “god above is watching” are doing the work, you are doing it because you want. Because you are conscience of the consequences. And you like them.

I agree, red pill, or better, what it stands for: be the best you can imagine- is getting more and more important.

Nice post!

[–]Coroshi 8 points9 points  (0 children)

How shall we comfort ourselves, murderers of all murderers?

[–]shaggyctes88 13 points14 points  (6 children)

Ah I see you are a man of nietzchean culture as well

[–]Thunderbird93 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Straight up. Fuck ressentiment. #MasterMorality

[–]bountyhunterdjango 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You know Nietzsche wasn't an advocate of his definition of 'master morality' right?

[–]Thunderbird93 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I got the impression that he was all about the aristocratic warrior ethos. Perhaps I was wrong,may you explain?

[–]bountyhunterdjango 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just realised I may have come off as pretty rude, sorry about that. But it's really interesting, Nietzsche died before he could finish a four-part series criticising all historical structures of morality. He only concluded the first, which criticises slave morality (he started with this because it was the dominant idelaogy in western society/philosophy) and most experts agree he was planning on criticising master morality in the next.

Ironically considering what Christianity became, Nietzsche's example of someone who was almost a 'superman' or 'overman' (his example of perfect nature) was Jesus himself. Nietzsche felt like all moral structures had to be moved past, even valuing order, nobility and virtue were inferior in his mind to a life of complete passion, where all moral structures are ignored or even actively rebelled against.

Of course, people still dispute what exactly constituted Nietzsche's 'superman', but the general gist is that rather than conforming to master or slave morality, the superman lives by his own passions and forms his own values. He doesn't believe in God or any eternal concepts, because those have been created as a result of unhappiness with this world, and the superman passionately loves life as it is. As for the values the superman creates, the main precursor for them are that, no matter what they are, they have been created by him/his own experience, apart from the dominating ideologies of the time (even if they do happen to intersect in part with current moral systems).

That's the gist but he's exceptionally worth reading for himself and take my interpretation with a heap of salt since there's much dispute over what exactly he was saying! But he almost certainly wasn't advocating for 'master morality', and in fact praises Jesus for resisting that system and leading his own values (it's his followers that are the problem for Nietzsche!)

[–]shaggyctes88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A proper Ubermensch is beyond both Master-Slave Moral, however is always preferable the Master Morality to begin with on the path of self-improvement, also, I remain vigilant whenever "Ressentiment" might come to my mind and cloud me. Great to find other Men on the path of Greatness

[–]mikey7209 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Becoming your own god? That’s satanic

[–]Coroshi 8 points9 points  (2 children)

"Satan" is just a personification of the evil within us. Since we as humans are unable to come to terms with our own darkness, we project it unto an imaginary, otherworldly entity that is actively influencing us to release ourselves from the responsibility.

[–]UshankaDalek 1 points1 points [recovered]

Alternatively, the evil within you is a reflection of Satan.

[–]Coroshi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are a whole lot of alternatives, surely, even regarding the definition of "evil" itself.

[–]DrankOfSmell 7 points8 points  (2 children)

The top 20% is a generous and soon it be outdated model. It will be the top 10% all too soon.

[–]Zech4riah 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Easy to agree on this. Top 20% is a bit of a joke already. Top 5-10% sounds much more realistic.

[–]Aggressive_Beta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How to be in the top 20%: don’t be fat

Stupidly easy. TRP men should really be striving to be top 5% at least

[–]LockShaver 1 points1 points [recovered]

I mean GEN Z is the most conservative in eighty years when it comes to politics, specifically on feminism and gender roles, there is still hope

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

They're conservative because they like Trump's trolling on twitter, not because they support his policies.

That being said I legitimately think videos like SJW and Feminist cringe compilations on youtube are teaching kids to hate outrage culture which is a good thing.

[–]Serpent_Whisperer 1 points1 points [recovered]

Any source on that? That's just too bold of a claim for me to believe. Young adults in my are eat liberal shit like candy.

[–]Snazzy_Serval 11 points12 points  (13 children)

For some reason the video was terrifying to me.

I feel like I'm completely stuck in world where women have all the power. And considering that I'm single at 37 and haven't kissed a woman in years that's pretty much true.

All this reading and watching videos isn't going to help me though, it'll just make me scared and believe that it's hopeless.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 14 points15 points  (5 children)

This video is absolutely horrifying. If you’re not disgusted to your absolute core at the “progressive” dystopia we’ve entered, wake the fuck up. But quit being a pussy about it. Don’t be “scared”. Be fucking disgusted and pissed.

[–]Snazzy_Serval 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Being disgusted and pissed doesn't help me though.

I don't want to hate women.

I want to fuck women.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Being disgusted and pissed is like rocket fuel dude, you’re crazy.

Also I’m not pissed at women. I don’t hate women. I’m pissed at the state of affairs and I’m disgusted with this atrocious female behavior. Both of which should be common sense by now.

[–]PhantomCowboy 7 points8 points  (2 children)

you can love women, or you can understand them. pick one

[–]Snazzy_Serval 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Which one helps me get laid?

[–]Einzakin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe you can't get laid because you're so fucking desperate to get laid. Do you, brother.

[–]javiercer20 5 points6 points  (4 children)

What the fuck?? What you’re gonna go? Run away and hide??? don’t you feel MAD and DISRESPECTED about some brainless whore having more balls than you???

After reading this you should feel empowered and anxious to go out tonight and face some big tited whores and fuck them... that’s it that’s all you gotta do.

You gotta be mad at them and reclaim what’s yours

[–]Snazzy_Serval 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Sigh, you're right this is how I feel.

Instead I feel depressed and hopeless. I feel that women are broken but I still want them of course.

I don't feel empowered at all because I don't know how to play their game. I feel like I'm just a toy and I know it should be the other way around.

Being mad at women just makes me despise them and not want to interact at all. And when you're trying to fuck the last thing you should do is be mad at her.

[–]javiercer20 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why would want to play their game?? The only game they play is the one the can only win with, play you’re own game be the man. I’m not saying you gotta hate them with despite, you just gotta be mad at them trying to treat you like a toy, it’s like you’re mad at you’re little sister because she poking you with the pencil.

[–]scandicock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have one advice for you: Ignore western women, move to another country. Western women will cheat on you, western women will have taken minimum 80 cocks before you. Why would ANY MAN with SELF RESPECT reward this behaviour with their seed? You fucking cuck losers jesus christ you are so pathetic.

[–]scandicock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just LOL @this blue pilled CUCK telling guys to STILL CHASE WOMEN when WOMEN behave SHITTY, my god some of you red pillers are such fucking white knights its hilarious.

[–]iLLprincipLeS 1 points1 points [recovered]

Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.

Neo: What truth?

Spoon boy: There is no spoon.

Neo: There is no spoon?

Spoon boy: Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never really understood this conversation from The Matrix. Still don't fully get what he means by it...

[–]mr_wurtemburg 5 points6 points  (1 child)

At 1:54, as the girl drops the 'ancient wisdom' line of:

"Yeah, thats exactly how it goes" The dude she's with says, very quickly, "Am I that other dude?"

We should all ask ourselves the same.

[–]punchyson 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I remember being slightly bemused when I would see a slightly ugly intimidating looking man with a smoke show back in the day. These guys tend to have mean faces but a lot of the time are cool.

Coming out of the 80s there was a common belief that really pretty almost faggy dudes got the ladies.

But there he is, a little ugly and masculine as fuck with a really pretty woman hanging on him.

These girls laid it out there. Women want men, and the most important detail is that you are a man and not a pussy. Look at that, learning from deeply programmed females when they are empowered to be honest. Weird

I don’t consider myself good looking in the face. Not awful but not pretty. I wear inexpensive western wear that fits and being a cowboy with some chops doesn’t hurt. Every time I am fit and healthy girls are easy to meet, sometimes they run their game on me first.

Don’t get it twisted, I have an Alpha lifestyle but have been really Beta with the ladies, so I’m here.

If you don’t have a beautiful face work relentlessly on your body and badassitude. There is a groupie for that.

[–]RedEyeDude 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I don't understand why male hierarchy is vertical, while female ones are horizontal. Can you elaborate.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Women are the selectors of our species, their biology dictates them to select a high value male(for procreation). Seeing as she can only be impregnated by one man and then endure 9 months pregnancy and years of post natal care, she has to be very selective.

Men have to compete for this selection.

Therefore men at the top are in prime position for selection. Men at the bottom are not. This is a Horizontal Heirarchy.

Men want to bang the best possible women, but there's no penalty for banging a low value women. There's no problem for him. He can bang the hottest women and an average women, there's no pregnancy for him. Infact it increases his chances of his genetic material passing on. So to bang as much as he can is good.

This is why women are a horizontal hierarchy.

To some degree women compete but not nearly as fiercely as men and almost all women can get some dick, whereas not all men can get pussy.

[–]Bear-With-Bit 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Women are much more interested in ending a relationship than starting one.

Unless it's with a man who's just pumping and dumping.

[–]Throwaway_5252 11 points12 points  (4 children)

This video made me question if I had the capacity to become a serial killer.

These are women who are sooooo catty and sooo devoid of genuine personality it's heartbreakingly sad. The dude interviewing isn't any better. "Hey guys, I used to be a shy little nerd, and now I have more confidence and I just walk up to girls and start putting my arm around them? Arn't I coolz?" Fucking douche. Same breed of validation seeking asshats you are vapid and just want you to like and subscribe despite the vapid content.

I mostly interact with prostitutes and none of them act like this. If I did I question if I'd able to even be attracted to them despite some of the girls in this video looking pretty good. Their attitudes make me homicidal.

[–]untonyto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As soon as the guy started plugging whatever the hell thing that was the whole point of the video became clear, the reason for his overfamiliarity with easy ladies on camera, the big deal made of kissing them etc. He's looking for disciples for his cult of personality. Targeting blue pill males with red pill bait. I imagine even with that drunken crowd he had to edit out a couple of uncooperative individuals. Like you say he's as vapid as the girls he is showing off and so proud of. Any AWALT lessons to be extracted from this have to be fetched out of the thick fog of folly all around. But now I am ranting. But your comment triggered me.

[–]superyute 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Your anger phase will be over soon man. Get it all of your chest

[–]Throwaway_5252 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been here for almost 2 years now. Rarely do I encounter women like this in real life. The girls in the videos are such a turn off due to their personalities that if I had to interact with them I'd pay them for sex and tell them to not speak during the entire encounter. If other men want to jump into that culture, it's fine by me. Personally I know women who are much more submissive and soft spoken and are probably much better lays. I'm just thankful they don't act this way otherwise I'd go gay. Yeah, these girls are hot but otherwise I fucking hated everyone in that video.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Prepare for a comment from JamesSkepp about how this way of life is better for society and our TradCon past was actually a living hell in 3,2,1...

[–]ten-bible 18 points19 points  (4 children)

We are falling into a crazy nihilistic society. But eh. Is it really worse than history? Most of history was marauding and pillaging rapists and kings. Angry chimps slaughtering each other. Shit's not as crazy as you think. Only if you believed the Disney movies you watched growing up, but the world was never like that. For anybody at anytime. Just like there was never a Santa Claus.

I think the youtube video is obviously an exaggeration. Just like political hacks (left or right) making a "funny" video ... half the actors are fake, and even if real, they just edit the top 10% most crazy nutty fuck-ups in (and remove the rest) to tell their narrative, whatever that may be. (In this case, sluts be crazy is the message). There are elements of truth.

Do they care? No.

Dude ... you're blaming women for being women? And admitting it? Yes of course they like alphas, and dry up for betas. And all the rest. Why should they be ashamed? Are you ashamed for not liking Fatties? No ... most men are repulsed by fatties ... not by choice, it's evolutionary biology. Did a girl "gotcha" by getting you to "admit" you don't like Fatties? And not even "care" about it! Oh me oh my! Dude reality is reality. Don't harbor resentment. Don't be a male "fat chick". Some of us are on longer roads than others to victory, but hey just keep truckin. Don't be bitter about reality.

The moral degradation of society! I wish it were 1950s! Dooom!!

Oh boy. Dude women were always women. For millenia. They always wanted to fuck alphas and use betas and get pounded by some huge gorilla. That may make you uncomfortable. I mean of course it does. Men want loyal, monogamous women and are jealous of competitors. "Macro" sexual-economic talk thus makes many men uncomfortable.

Human society has always been power struggles, always was, still is. Social leaders may have once been the biggest baddest brute hunter. His authority came from his physical power and aggression. He'd beat down challengers. But of course, power structures change. Power changes to influence, social influence, wealth, ability, legitimacy, etc. Classic betas retook power ... Priests and religious leaders and other betas cried out "monogamy!! an invisible "God" demands it! So don't cheat on me! Only fuck me! Follow my rules or burn in an invisible hellfire!" It was for control. Women prefer monogamy too. Well, while it suits them. But human nature is human nature.

I don't blame the "sexual revolution" for more frustrated males (and females) these days. Well, possibly ... I guess the "fuck and ghost" option didn't much exist in 1950s society. But is that a BAD thing? The ability to fuck a girl you have no intentions of marrying? I'd argue no ....

The main problem is Tinder, Hollywood, movies, TV, Facebook, Instagram, Advertising. Long story short, more men and women then ever ... think they deserve to fuck a 10/10 model person with a great job. Okay, maybe a 9.5. But ... most people are not 9s or 10s sexually. So ... most people are frustrated fucks. Even an '8' who in the 1950s could fuck marry most of the population --- now it's "well I'm swinging for better, like the people I see in movies/ Instagram." Too much choice. Too much porn overload.

Either way, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. Unless you turn a free society back into an authoritarian hell-hole. So ... what can you do? Play the fucking game bro ... as written ... learn the rules and angles ... and win. All you can do.

[–]AfrikaCorps 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now this is TRP, which is accepting reality as it is, tired of this WHINY posts, being whiny about the nature of clever chimps and their sexuality... Of course its irrational, of course its fucked, were monkeys, ffs.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the youtube video is obviously an exaggeration. Just like political hacks (left or right) making a "funny" video ...

It's certainly extreme examples, however their attitudes are representative of the average Gen Z women.

Dude ... you're blaming women for being women? And admitting it? Yes of course they like alphas, and dry up for betas. And all the rest. Why should they be ashamed? Are you ashamed for not liking Fatties? No

You missed the point of that statement entirely, there was zero blame in that comment. You're doing the classic feminist tactic of taking a neutral statement and then going "Oh, So your'e saying (XYZ)", infact you've done that throughout your entire comment.

What I was conveying was that they do not care, and therefore will not change their views or the treatment of men. So that men expecting women to care need to adjust their expectations accordingly.

The moral degradation of society! I wish it were 1950s! Dooom!!

I was very careful to not take a stance on it and if you look at it my post history and read "The World Shouldn't Be Like Anything; It is As It Is" you'll get a fairly accurate representation of my views.

This is post is simply a commentary on how it is, I never once said today is worse or the old days were better. Infact I devoted an entire portion of it to the death of the old TradCon Days.

So what to do?

No matter what direction we go in it will simply be another society, one we will need to learn to navigate all the same, so I'll open that discussion to the floor.

And I specifically added this so there would be no confusion that this is a lets go back to how it was post.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yep. Years ago men and women were satisfied with nabbing the best looking man/woman in the village or area or tribe, now with Instagram thots etc. people are now seeing the best of the best of 7 billion people and are not happy unless they get someone similar to that. Leaves a *lot* of lonely, unhappy people in the world. Not good for the individual, but unfortunately for us, probably better off for the human race and world overall - too many people in the world, need to reduce numbers.

[–]ten-bible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's definitely the case. It's not just sexual either. The advent of television in the 1960s led to massive violence upticks. Studies show it wasn't 'violent programs' but actually the fact that the "poor half" of American never really took note of how the richer half lived. It was jealousy, and level-setting.

How do you compare your success? In women or riches or whatever? You look at your peer group, generally.

You don't compare the fact that you eat better, have AC, and have much better transportation options than the richest Kings of Yore had a couple centuries ago. You don't give a fuck about that, or the fact that if you make over 40k in the US, you are in the richest 1% of the World. You don't care about comparing yourself to Thai or Chinese peasants, you look at your peer group.

So TV definitely did that in the 1960s.

Now, most TV/ movie/ Instagram and even to an extent Facebook, they show highlight reels in the latter, and in the former, it's just the hottest people in the country fucking each other or being Thots demanding Patreon donations while taking selfies in underwear... it's all photoshopped fiction anyway, but they are not anyone's "peer group" but everyone thinks that where success is. Thots and wearing expensive sunnies.

Which is fine but not everyone can fuck someone who looks like an Instagram thot lol.

I don't agree with your last statement. Ugly people are still fucking and repopulating. Real dumb ugly people. Populations aren't thinning either. It's just that nobody's happy about it. Not the unsatisfactory fucking or the ugly dumb runts they are popping out.

[–]conflagratorX 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would say blasphemy: Not All Women Are Like That Cunt. Seriously.

[–]VanityKings 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Splash a bit of water on any of those thots faces and see if their own mothers would kiss them.
Hilarious that a bunch of makeup abusing, plastic bodied, fake nails/hair/lips, high heel wearing useless thots think they are worth anything. That entire generation is so fucked when they hit the wall and realize no worthwhile man will pay for their shit or wife them up. It's going to be bittersweet to watch, but the decline is here and rock bottom grows closer every day.

[–]ETRossier 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Idk I think you're kinda missing the ball on this one. I think Gen Z is far more aware of TRP and Hypergamy, and sexual dynamics as whole than you give them credit for. Sure, there is an awful lot of feminization going on with young guys, but I will say that more of those guys are AWARE of it than any prior generation. They've seen the effects of ignorance to sexual dynamics in the generations prior to them, and it's not as taboo to talk about this shit. They've also grown up being told "your not special" on repeat like a broken fuckin' record. They get that. Gen Z values strength, legitimately, but not everyone is strong, so not everyone can fight all the vices being thrown at them (and Gen Z has a SERIOUS drug problem) to show that. I guess the issue that Gen Z has is not the same as previous generations. They don't need to be told whats wrong. They've grown up in some of the most politically divisive and fast paced times of history, and as a result, they can see bullshit. But they live in a time of ease and excess, where it's harder to gain control of your life. They have a serious uphill battle in terms of building good habits and staying adjusted. Psychologically that's fucked too. They're stuck knowing what's wrong with them ALL THE TIME, but not always having what it takes to fix it, and they know it's their own fault. Suicide rates are going to keep climbing.

The effects of the introduction of birth control, which is what spawned all this and forced sexual dynamics into the light, is in the final stages of normalization. Gen Z will prove that. I can guarantee it.

And yeah, whores were always whores. These girls just know it and don't give a fuck. Why would they?

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I think Gen Z is far more aware of TRP and Hypergamy, and sexual dynamics as whole than you give them credit for.

That's what I'm saying.

those guys are AWARE of it than any prior generation

In some ways yes, do they know what to do about it? I don't think so.

told "your not special" on repeat like a broken fuckin' record

The men yes, the women however have been told that they're very special on a very regular basis. Which is why a large portion of the men are struggling.

They don't need to be told whats wrong.

They see what's wrong, but it doesn't help them solve their problem in the sexual market. The solutions they've been sold by a BP society does not work for them, leaving them frustrated.

The rest of what you say is spot on.

[–]ETRossier 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what I'm saying.

It seemed like you were suggesting that the guys aren't. My bad I misinterpreted you.

They see what's wrong, but it doesn't help them solve their problem in the sexual market.

I think you'd be surprised regarding the percentage of Gen Z kids who know of TRP. Not just the ideas, but literally TRP, the subreddit. Give it some time, in fact we're already seeing it with some of the IDW guys, and TRP theories and terminology will be FAR more out in the open and part of the public conversation. In that sense, if they can get over their psychological distress, they have all the tools to handle the sexual marketplace, but the competition is getting stiffer, and the divide between the successful and unsuccessful is going to broaden. 80 - 20 rule is optimistic. It'll be interesting to see all this pay out.

[–]PerplexingPegasus_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You described Gen Z perfectly. Overload of everything to the point that they don’t know what to filter out.

[–]omega_dawg93 9 points10 points  (4 children)

imo, here's what is meant by "open hypergamy": hypergamy is summarized as "alpha fucks, beta bucks... with women seeking alphas for genes, and betas for provisions." it's defined as 50/50 AF to BB.

"open hypergamy" makes it 80% alpha fucks and 20% beta bucks. women don't worry about provisions and protection all that much anymore. that 30% has been transferred to pursuing MORE alpha traits.

to those who aren't aware... this means that women are open to more chads. so instead of your little princess lusting over chad, she will also receive DNA shots from tyrone as well... and then rico. she doesn't care to stay within her race or even comfy social circle; things are ALL the way open-just like her thighs.

women today do NOT care. they want to fuck who they want, when they want & how often they want... with zero fucks given to YOUR thoughts on politics, race, etc. you can't scare them away from getting all the cock they want... so calling them "mud sharks," etc. only makes her look at YOU funny. you can't threaten her by pulling away YOUR money; she has her own.

men have a lot to work on but women are waaaaay out of control. they are proud of being sluts, like being called sluts, love taking slut walks, and will attack you for slut-shaming. that worn out, tore up, used up, DNA flooded vagina she owns will be given to you when she's done beating it up.

enjoy.

[–]nordicpolarbear 3 points4 points  (3 children)

She has her own money...that was collected from beta males by the government. Women are married to the state so they don’t need men. Classic supply and demand. We’re all being cucked.

[–]omega_dawg93 1 point2 points  (2 children)

the ones i dealt with in Houston had their own money... from having high paying jobs with oil & gas companies and as nurses.

... and most had the bossy attitude too.

[–]nordicpolarbear 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Because they know they have the option of living off their husband the state if things fall through. If they knew they would starve without that good paying job you bet your ass they’d be more respectful.

[–]omega_dawg93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that "if" means nothing when she's got a master's degree in accounting or is a nurse practitioner.

in today's world, you don't have to worry about the beta bucks side so much. you need to be more alpha... ready to put her in her place thru respectful dominance, unquestionable masculinity, and with above average fuck skills.

[–]newcaprica1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

oh, btw the guy who makes that YT video wears 3 to 4-inch lifts to look taller than the women. He showed it himself on one of his older videos.
His older videos are all hypergamy 101. A camera makes them feel like celebrities and they 'll do anything.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Think he only wore those 3" heels in the one video... he doesn't wear them all the time. But yes if you watch them all, he definitely knows some RP stuff and says it in a sneaky way without announcing it or using the keywords. He extracts RP truths from the thots mouths.

[–]zeuD13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Me and my friends always end up talking about this, we are on our 20s most of us are red-pilled, postgraduates, conservative and patriotic and we know when we are around our 50s the world will be nothing even remotely near to our beliefs and world views. I'm from the Balkans where societies are still somewhat holding frame to this whole thing that globalization is throwing on all of us, but we also start seeing the effects. The generation Z is the first to trully embrace this whole culture, scary thing is that most parents don't react to it. I mean, here, even 10 years ago, parents , fathers especially would never let their daughters go out dressed the way teens and early adults do nowdays.

[–]PlzPunchMyFaceOff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's interesting, but I've got to say, I don't believe that many problems stem from a belief in God or what have you... This is backed up by scientific study as well. People have an innate sense of right and wrong and it has more to do with living successfully as part of a pack than it does with any sort of notion of a diety watching you while you pee.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Something I’ve noticed about the Gen Z girls, they don’t give a fuck how they look. They rarely are making attempts to look beautiful. They know attention is coming their way regardless.

[–]MarinTaranu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh, but you discount the fact that everything can change in a matter of minutes. There could be a meteor striking the Earth, a volcanic eruption with extremely long winters, food shortage, plague, earthquake, etc. The level between today's society and complete anarchy is very small indeed. In the absence of the protection offered by the state, all these princesses will become absolute whores to ensure their next meal. While males who swim, run, hunt, fish, are self-sufficient will come out on top. Then, there are things that can affect each individual snowflake at a personal level - disease, car accident, crime, etc., unpredictable factors that will drop them down in value to zero. Look at what's happening in Venezuela. Their state is destroyed, women sell themselves as sex slaves for food, running off to Colombia or to Brazil. And Venezuela had some of the most beautiful women in the world, and look at them now, and laugh, because each and every one of them turned down dozens of men at the peak of their form, but now, any Average Joe can buy them by the dozen. It is the fallacy of the world to not consider the worst options, but be overly optimistic about the future.

[–]Meta-h 2 points3 points  (3 children)

And this is why I have a 9 year old son that I am RP’ing the shit out of. Last Saturday morning, instead of cartoons, we watched Jordan Peterson together and talked some basic RP concepts and when the time comes, he’ll be ready for this entitled Gen Z crew.

His mom is not happy that I’m intro’ing him to these concepts at such a young age, but her only frame is mine, so she can sit back and watch.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Interesting.. I have an 8-year old. What should I be showing him? I don't want him to grow up blue-pilled as fuck living with his mother...

[–]Meta-h 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’d like to say I have this mapped out, but I don’t. Overall I think it’s exposing him to the right ideas and showing him how I interact with women. Luckily his mother and I are open, so I can get away with a lot more in front of her. This is good because my son can see how I approach women.

Obviously I’m not gonna talk in depth sexual strategy with him, but the main thing I’m trying to do is make sure he takes an abundance approach to girls and never develops the Disney oneitis mindset. This means I’ll start to intro him around 11, maybe 12 to real red pill sexual strategy stuff.

Right now I’m sticking to big themes. Have purpose, be confident, be prepared, work hard for what you want, build frame (or basically it’s your world), don’t seek confirmation from anyone, don’t defer to older people just because they’re older and lastly talk to lots of girls.

We’ll see where this goes, but I’m sure he’ll be far more prepared than I was.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good stuff. Must try to follow the same guidelines with my own son. Think he’s already a lot more outgoing and friendly than I ever was.

[–]KewlThanks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women's suffrage was such a mistake and any society that allows women to vote will die out.

[–]t_h_e_s_u_c_c 8 points9 points  (4 children)

whats your opinion of fascism

[–]Thunderbird93 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Good conversation starter. Personally. I'm a libertarian. When government involves itself in the economy it leads to massive inefficiency due to monopoly. Just look at the DMV lines, atrocious service because of no competition. On the nationalist angle I also disagree. Ignoring minorities to me is unfair. I live in South Africa with a white minority, I see nationalism as very segregative, Julius Malema being the flip side of the coin that is Donald Trump. The thing I am most optimistic about is project ITER and Nuclear Fusion. Merging of the worlds smartest scientists to solve energy. That's the kind of cooperation that fascism cannot produce. The ITER project costs $20 billion,no nation alone could casually put that up bro

[–]iLLprincipLeS 1 points1 points [recovered]

Merging of the worlds smartest scientists to solve energy. That's the kind of cooperation that fascism cannot produce.

Fascism could produce the worlds smarters scientists through eugenics.

[–]Thunderbird93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LMAO, bro thats so ruthless. I'm biased because when I lived with a caucasian family in NH through highschool they had a kid who was mentally slow. It seems to me you fuck with social Darwinism heavy, I do too. I don't know man

[–]SasquatchMcKraken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not down with the more authoritarian/totalitarian aspects of it but all-in-all it's not a terrible theoretical framework. We wouldn't be where we are if we had something like it.

[–]ihatemyphiltrum 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Generation Z girls dump their long term boyfriends because they want adventure and want to avoid responsiblity to live the good life and chase this so called "fantasy chad" infatuation

[–]tempolaca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have 18 years old what do you expect.

[–]Lateralanouncer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good article. At the end of the end of the day it is not our problem, just be your best self and enjoy the fruits that you earn.

[–]Morphs_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the best part about the videos is the guy. He put in his time to be social and dominant. He doesn't take the girls seriously at all and just has fun with them.

[–]PerplexingPegasus_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gen Z has everything nearly accessible to them in the palm of their hands. Banking, shopping, books, entertainment,etc. Relate this to Gen Z women, if they’re remotely attractive they can literally have a cult following on Instagram or Snapchat for literally being pretty. Even the undesirables and 5’s have an ego the size of mountains through the thirsty losers on tinder willing to stick their dick in something.

Of course the women don’t give a shit about their male counterparts. When you have thousands validating you with a single photo, who the hell cares about your local billy beta wanting to take you on a date. He doesn’t compare to the mass they can have validate her on a whim.

The only hope for other Gen Z’s like myself is to actually ignore these women and shut down their ego. They literally crave it since they have inbox’s of guys telling them how hot they are and random dick pics. Be the one guy who could give Zero fucks about their looks and call them on their bullshit and you’ll be literally swimming in their guts.

[–]dmi_3 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'm waiting for when older generations slowly go away and the oldest one are millennialls (perhaps younger gen X too). Younger than them will be the Gen Z, and the youngest the children of Millennials. This will be a shit show of a unversal scale. I feel like this is when the next major war will happen.

[–]redvelvet_oreo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

My biggest issue with all this shit is having kids. How the fuck does one have kids with these kind of people if they are now the majority?

I truly believe having good parenting from both side of the gender generates a good kid. At this rate though there is going to be so many fucked up kids. In fact there are already. All the single mom bullshit fucking up these kids childhoods. Yeah there are some deadbeat dads but I really think its far less than the crazy single moms. I really want to have kids but in this climate its such a role of the dice.

[–]F_Dingo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How the fuck does one have kids with these kind of people if they are now the majority?

some of them will be single mothers and some will find some starved schmuck to marry; some of these kids won't be related to ole' dad if you catch my drift.

[–]blackwingsreef 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your post has good start but descends into a 4chan level analysis of geopolitics. I seriously pity the men who have vertical hierarchies in their friends groups.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Interesting video but consider the following before drawing general conclusions.

  • Biased sample- evening in the nightlife section of town
  • The video maker further biased the sample by choosing exactly which parts to include and which to edit out

On the first point, this is hunting ground for ONS and plates, but vet the hell out of any woman met in this context before even considering LTR. Most LTR material is elsewhere.

On the second, these "expose" videos are a dime a dozen. You can spend 30 minutes near a college campus asking people to help fight dihydrogen monoxide in the water. To make a video showing college students today are smart, show all the people who say, "Duh, it's water!" To make a video showing "Millennials/liberals/conservatives etc are so dumb lol" you show all the people expressing concern and offering to donate to the cause.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In full agreement, the video is more of an introduction for the audience.

My views are shaped more from my interactions socially with Gen-Z and the girls I've plated or FWB.

They respond so much more to masculinity than any other group of women I've interacted with, simply because it is so rare amongst them.

[–]PM_Me_OK 7 points8 points  (3 children)

The illuminati/rich elites are the ones responsible for pushing this agenda and influencing everyone in a negative way so they can be controlled easier and less able to reach and rise up. Its amazing how they can make this litterally happen like they wanted it to before it ever did. So many mindless sheep out there.

[–]PhantomCowboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

much better to be a mindful sheep

[–]SasquatchMcKraken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it was more of a cultural/generational change and new elites sprung up to exploit it. All rulers started as rebels somewhere down the line.

[–]U-94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They also fattened up the population like cattle with corn, sugar and soy in everything.

[–]curiouschipmunk1010 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You talked about faith; it's a curiosity because faith correlate with situational dependent. Generally speaking, at no other point in time have we been so comfortable. Too much comfort corrodes faith, attractions, etc. For example, nationalism and faith was ignited during 9/11 because it was necessary. Nowadays, faith et al. are losing ground to too much comfort induced delicacy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely one of the factors that has accelerated the deterioration of faith. Coupled with scientific advancements and a growing amount of atheists who don't seem to be suffering in the slightest for the beliefs they hold.

[–]imtheoneimmortal 1 point2 points  (4 children)

why is sexual market free and unregulated? who should regulate it?

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

why is sexual market free and unregulated?

I touched on it in the post.

who should regulate it?

Depends what you want.

If you don't care or operate on TRP principles then no one.

If you want to go back to the "Good Ol Days" then religion and marriage should regulate it.(Wont happen)

[–]imtheoneimmortal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i thought marriage was to save women and childrens

[–]The-critical-failure 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why should it be regulated?

[–]Pelmaleon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great writeup! Though you should note that in many circumstances feminine traits in males can play to their advantage (ex: having grace at a relatively higher-class dance event or dinner party, etc), so being an Absolute Alpha is not always optimal.

[–]d0tEcho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just don't fuck with thots?

[–]2johnnight 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Everybody is physically and financially secure because of the high productivity of the economy and relatively low crime rate (and parental protection and provision). In the current era women DON'T NEED men for those needs, not in the short-term. If they needed loyal protectors and providers in their teens/20s, then they would feel the urgency to lock men down ASAP in an LTR.

We are all doing so great and therefore we are doing terribly wrong.

[–]geo_gan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's not the impression I get from America at all... aren't you all indebted for life with ridiculously high college loans? I don't think any other country sticks an 80 grand debt on a student to go through college just to become another slave drone. In one of this guys own other videos he talks to girls looking for sugar-daddies specifically to pay off their student fees.

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

so what you are saying is. back in the day some of the lesser guys might get something because there wasn't such an advance in technology and the open hypergamy we have today.

that's interesting man.

[–]tempolaca 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't think any of those girls are over 20. Those are kids, saying outrageous and funny things in front of a good looking boy to impress him.

[–]AlmightyPerun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, he does mention "Generation Z" specifically, who were born around the late 1990's and early 2000's. They're all around ~15 to ~22 years old.

[–]Hjalmbere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

”Vag-Lords” - I’m appropriating that!

[–]pewpewhitguy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At least you arent black pills.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Why wont a reversal work?

Faith was the glue that held conservative values together.

Not faith per se, but thing closely to it: enforcement of societal rules (which were based on religion in most part, which itself comes mostly from the religion and state being the same for majority of our history). You can't say it's faith b/c if it was REAL faith, everyone would self police according to the rules. Instead the enforcement was done via laws and ostracism.

There's one more reason why, albeit a post factum one: historically, there was never a return to the "previous" values/systems, only incorporation of new ones.

but very few are internalizing that there is truly a deity watching over us and judging our behavior.

This is the self-policing I wrote about above. You act as-if there's god and hell waiting if you misbehave. Internalizing this requires discipline and going against feedback b/c it's ALWAYS humans that punish, not god. He can't b/c he doesn't exist, so each time a religious person "sins" they develop cognitive dissonance: he knows he should be punished by god, but of course he isn't. This is why religion needs a nebulous concept of "hell". "You WILL be punished - I have sinned and I'm not punished - you WILL be... just not now." It's a glorified (pun intended) version of procrastination. "I WILL punish you...tomorrow."

This is why the most religious(or strong cultural influence) countries, still hold the most TradCon values. E.G Saudi Arabia, North Korea etc

Saudi Arabia does not hold tradcon values. It enforces enforce them, as much as Muslim can be a tradcon. Take a Saudi Arabian, put him unsupervised in West, he'll turn into Westernized Muslim, just like Europeans go to church, but don't really believe. It's enfoced, not an internalized value system. North Korea is a poor ( :D) example, b/c they have been indoctrinated for the last 70 years or so. It's not about tradcon there, it's about police state curbing every possible deviation from worshipping Kim, b/c deviation threatens revolution (especially in a poor country).

And what does a free woman do? Well sample every Alpha penis that lands in her snatch of course.

And what does a tradcon woman do when nobody is looking? Don't be naive, tradcon doesn't prevent hypergamy, doesn't make women self conscious about their choices. Moreover tradcon is bad for men b/c it promises (in reality entitles) the man a place above women, but fails to make the man earn it. In short tradcon doesn't promote masculinity, it promotes a form of instant gratification: just be tradcon things will fall into place. As you can see, the moment you stop enforcing soft patriarchy on tradcon society, all that goes down the drain b/c men are not masculine and women are not self-policing (they never were, they never will be).

There's nothing bad in women being "free". What is bad is lack of masculine men for women to follow, which they always do.

In the absence of stable women

Stable woman is a nAWALT fantasy. Their "instability" is built in and driven by her biology.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Was wondering when you'd chime in.

enforcement of societal rules (which were based on religion in most part, which itself comes mostly from the religion and state being the same for majority of our history)

was REAL faith, everyone would self police according to the rules.

Agreed, however there is no such thing as real faith(seeing as god is a man made creation). So there only ever could be enforced societal rules based on religion. Which is ultimately the faith I was speaking of.

I have no doubt there was an illusion of real faith though. With a large portion of society believing in man made religion you could enforce it, try enforcing it without the belief in religion,but at the same time the belief was only there because it was enforced, a sort of loop that we've since broken out of. As religion slowly died (due to less enforcement) so does it's influence on how strongly those societal rules are influenced.

Saudi Arabia does not hold tradcon values. It enforces enforce them.

Precisely what I meant. Matter of wording.

Don't be naive, tradcon doesn't prevent hypergamy, doesn't make women self conscious about their choices.

Never said it did, it certainly did limit it to some degree though, via enforcement of societal rules.(based on faith). I'm in no way suggesting that TradCon values rewired their biology.

Stable woman is a nAWALT fantasy

Once again not talking about biologically stable women, I'm referring to enforced stability.

Moreover tradcon is bad for men b/c it promises (in reality entitles) the man a place above women, but fails to make the man earn it. In short tradcon doesn't promote masculinity, it promotes a form of instant gratification: just be tradcon things will fall into place. As you can see, the moment you stop enforcing soft patriarchy on tradcon society, all that goes down the drain b/c men are not masculine and women are not self-policing (they never were, they never will be).

I'm in full alignment. Which is why I added.

So what to do?

No matter what direction we go in it will simply be another society, one we will need to learn to navigate all the same

I am certainly no TradCon pundit(quite the opposite). Society is what it is, understand it, navigate it. As a perceived Alpha the sexual market works for you more than ever before. A man can have multiple partners, which is far closer to his biology than a manogomous(enforced) marriage.

A mans biology drives him to spread his seed. A free market is where he does that best.

If anything women are being conned out of aligning with their own biology. By being sexually promiscuous(non-selective). Pushed to become more career focused, providing for themselves, not having kids or having them later, with a sub standard option etc.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If anything women are being conned out of aligning with their own biology. By being sexually promiscuous(non-selective).

Sexually promiscuous woman selects her mates on the basis of alpha characteristics, then selects her LTR mate via AF/BB mechanism whan the wall approaches. How is that not biology-driven or non-selective?

Pushed to become more career focused, providing for themselves

This is preferable to having men provide for them, b/c this is why women deceive men - to get his resources. If we enforce that on entire society, it will be to the detriment of men, not women. Right now you CAN provide for a woman. Imagine if you HAD to provide for her, just b/c you're fucking her.

not having kids or having them later

Same here. You can't have kids without the man. Forcing women to have kids is forcing the man to have them. On top of that, she now HAS to find a father to provide for them or rely on the state, both of which impacts men negatively.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is that not biology-driven or non-selective?

Not saying not biologically driven, saying it’s not biologically aligned(biological mating strategy VS current social mating strategy) because if we're talking in terms of natural selection, she would rather have the Alpha's child, with the Alpha genetic material being passed on, then get a provider. Current social norms of having kids later and the women being older at that point their Alpha options have dwindled, and alot "settle" first(as is custom) then have kids with the beta. Thats where the misalginment with our biology comes.

Essentially when she was in her prime, when she is able to select the best possible mate, would be closer to it, but socially we don't really support that, infact it's looked down on to some degree.(Which I'm neutral on it is what it is)

This is preferable to having men provide for them.

Right now you CAN provide for a woman.

Agreed, this benefits men, the option is a good thing.

Imagine if you HAD to provide for her, just b/c you're fucking her.

If we enforce that on entire society

I'm not saying we should do these things, I was simply stating points as to why they've strayed from their biology, I would never argue to force that on a society (my feelings are neutral,once again it is the way it is) but to unpack it a bit: The only time it would be biologically relevant(aligned) to provide for her is if that fucking led to a child.

Going way back here, but then a man DID provide/protect for her(atleast up until a point) after fucking her, because she carried his genetic material. During pregnancy and after he would look after her.

It's rather a voluntary free market biological transaction. He was getting something in return (pro creation).

Forcing women to have kids is forcing the man to have them

True but that doesn't tie them to the women, only the kid if he wants to. No need for nuclear family unit after. A man having the kid followed by the nuclear family mother and father raising the kids together till the end of time thing was never exactly aligned with our biology. He can up and leave. (would still have to pay though, for her too)

Women looking after the young is inline with her biology, therefore I'd argue that would bring them more satisfaction.

For the man to then go and impregnate another women would more likely be inline with his.(spread his seed)

Once again wouldn't want forcing(or anything, my views are neutral). It must be a voluntary trade.

On top of that, she now HAS to find a father to provide for them or rely on the state, both of which impacts men negatively.

Agreed, the loser here would be that provider she finds, but to some degree their presence is required.(AF/BB) I'm saying don't be that guy.

State isn't ideal either, but rather the state where it's a portion of my money and not me paying a larger portion directly towards the advancement of someone elses genetic material.

To some degree an early man tribe would have looked after the females, so long as her presence benefited the tribe.

[–]Rian_Stone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

from the whoreses mouth, many of those types come from daddy issues. Dad treated mom like crap, and they promised themselves to never have a man treat them like that, hence the carreers over finding a good man.

It's the female 'promise keeper'

[–]GastrointestinalRein 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That young fella is JackManley

[–]victor_knight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When an ape population reaches a certain level (e.g. multiple billions), expect to see emergent behaviors and patterns that control it.

[–]NormalAndy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brilliant detective work!

Learn to tolerate those painful shit tests, then learn to welcome them.

The above is a great reason to welcome the pain- women actually teaching us to be men by punishing us for not being men?! There's a new angle...

I feel some beers and a cold approach coming on! Hope she makes it hard for me. :-)

[–]technoredpill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think we can say these trends are leading to shorter relationships, whereby the woman is alpha shopping, but usually then getting pumped & dumped when she finds one.

It seems to me that this dynamic sustains friendship groups that contain equal amount girls and guys (including girls and guys that have previously been in relationships with each other), assuming the guys are beta. The girls occasionally date someone in the group but are mostly just biding time for alpha jizz.

[–]hoppy375 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do you fellas think this might play in with a girl who doesn't exhibit the carousel rider-type traits. Same "I'm a goddess, look at my fb/Insta pics" traits but not a ho in that sense... the type of woman im referring to is damaged by men since childhood from traumatic experience, takes a while to come around to them etc

[–]iamtherealandy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read your whole article and watched the video. You are talking about male female relations in perhaps the most useless subset of humanity: the jock, cheerleader party fucks. I am so glad that these people are finding ways to punish each other. They are selfish, artless, useless people. This video is more about the KIND of people they are than any kind of generational trends.

[–]tbonemcmotherfuck 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It seems you think the decline of religion is a bad thing. Being lied to, manipulated and brainwashed was better?

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don't think it was a bad thing and I don't think it was a good thing, it is what it is. It had it's place and played a prominent role in getting us here. Useless now though.

In terms of sexual strategy I think as an alpha a society without religious enforcement is far closer to our biology and can work alot better for us.

[–]tbonemcmotherfuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right on, I might've misunderstood a bit.

[–]drupido 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a perfect summary of today. You really put into words a lot of things I've been mentioning to my friends for a while.

[–]Punchpplay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suggest you all vote so this does not kill your wallet and lives... let it kill a betas social life it only makes dumping these women all the sweeter but DO NOT let these fools gain political power.

[–]sexy_mofo1 1 point2 points  (6 children)

It doesn't help matters when fucking legions of useless thirsty betanerds are constantly doing things like sending titty streamers thousands and thousands of fucking dollars so that the girl can continue to be a narcissist idiot online making fuckdoll faces into a webcam for a living. Yeah one half of it is the damage feminism has done, but now there are far far too many retarded fat fucks that continue to enable it and throw money at it.

[–]SgtBrutalisk 0 points1 point  (5 children)

sending titty streamers thousands and thousands of fucking dollars

Don't believe everything you see; I believe most of those donations are fake.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (4 children)

??? what? how are they fake? If it is the social media apps I think being talked about, I can assure that all "gifts/token" cost a lot of real fucking money.

[–]SgtBrutalisk 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Give a friend a thousand dollars and have them make 5 accounts to send $200 each. Keep repeating for free attention.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That’s not how it works. The site takes half of all gift money from each transaction. So if you give a thousand dollars to cheat system the site will keep five hundred of it. Stops people doing exactly what you said.

[–]SgtBrutalisk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well, then just report the card as stolen and have the bank refund the transaction. I distinctly remember there being a specific case where a guy doing this was denied refund by PayPal:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8q88pv/twitch-troll-donations-paypal

This one got denied but how many of them were/are doing it?

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not terribly easy to just cancel charges on cards after they have gone through. I remember years ago trying to just close down my credit card because some scammers were charging monthly membership fees on non existent website and the cc company was really trying to not do what I asked. Had to order them to shut down card in the end, and eventually they did it. But their attitude was definitely nothing wrong, not our fault, up to you to find scammers and make them stop charging!

[–]1mrthrowaway413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm 20 and a junior in college.

My fraternity has been popping off with interest, I met a 17 year freshman girl the other day, she told me she is in a Long Term Relationship. For 6 months.

And apparently she told her boyfriend she will stay with him until someone else here makes her happier.

That is literally open hypergamy. I laughed in her face.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

just a theory, i hope im wrong:

I believe the female mind has possibly won... females are winning the war of power.. they're weeding out the alpha male genetics that kept them suppressed for so long.. out of spite, maybe.. i pray this isnt the case but something tells me it is. in my gut i know its true. they selectively only have children with men that are basically beta males, ensuring that the next stage of human evolution continues successfully. Good for overall survival of human species maybe.. in terms of spreading across the galaxy. Bad for current clueless guys who have no idea what's happening.

[–]sandal_on 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No need to worry so much. Once the blood of today's civilization becomes to expensive to be useful, the the oil, people will move out from the cities to farmlands and men once again will be valuable once again. When oil stops coming, electricity, cars, food, internet and such will be extremely limited and people will live off the lands. Christianity probably will be more popular than ever because of poverty (which is common with every religion when people don't have other options). Will then when it happens that people are somewhat more sane? Probably not.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What will happen when these girls reach the wall? Eventually they’ll age like milk but how will they react to it? I’m 18 btw and I’d like to share a story.

Just the other day a girl who I haven’t talk to in months called me. She wanted me to do a favor for her. She wanted me to go pick up her Chinese food at the restaurant and bring to her house. I said no. She tried to convince me but I just said no and hung up. Now my thought process was I’m not a beta bitch who’s gonna go out in a storm to get this girl her dinner when I haven’t heard from this girl in months. Why would I even do this?

[–]SgtBrutalisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What will happen when these girls reach the wall?

Vote for more gibs. Get involved in the political process.

[–]NDNPreserve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This garbage civilization is for for a cleaning.

[–]finizzle 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Hi, I just stumbled into this subreddit, I’m 17 so I guess I am in generation Z. Interesting article, but I have a few questions if anyone would care to answer.

  1. Is this subreddit similar/related to Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?
  2. I understand that many men and women are being changed drastically by recent events, but is settling down with the “right woman” wrong? Can you be sure the right woman doesn’t exist anymore?

[–]SgtBrutalisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this subreddit similar/related to Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)?

MGTOW is TRP 2: Electric boogaloo.

Can you be sure the right woman doesn’t exist anymore?

There's no clear-cut answer to that; chances for a) such a woman existing and b) finding her seem very low.

[–]Aggressive_Beta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Not really. MGTOW is for men who, for one reason or another, have removed themselves from the sexual marketplace altogether. TRP is a sexual strategy for men who still want to be in the sexual marketplace that focuses on self improvement.

  2. If by “settle down” you mean marry, then yes it is wrong. If you mean have a LTR and/or have kids out of wedlock, that’s not necessarily wrong. You need to not only be constantly improving yourself but also need to make sure it’s with the right woman, and be totally aware of the risks and potential consequences.

[–]jinglebells89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

somehow made it through about 16 seconds of that before I had to turn it off.

[–]jinglebells89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A-lot of what we're seeing in that video is simply projection by women who are either a. confused or b. unhappy.

The VAST majority of women AND Men in our country are either a. confused or b. unhappy, usually a combination of both. But most people are unable to confront these emotions in a healthy way. They know something is wrong with their lives but confronting what that 'is' is too scary. So they continue living as sheep. A-lot of whore behavior is just women acting like sheep and following the crowd because they don't know any better and are too scared to even explore what 'better' could be.

[–]Vlasow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Her: Yeah, you gotta be 100% good with yourself, you confident with yourself before you get a girl.

It's gotten to the point that women are literally starting to tell men how to be men. Just be yourself, women will love you for who you are is the most cancerous statement for a young man to hear.

I think what the girl said is correct and actually redpill, and has little to do with what the OP commented on her words. She didn't say "just be yourself", she said "be good with yourself and be confident with yourself".

[–]syn1us 1 point2 points  (0 children)

His channel should be added to the sidebar.

[–]Johnny-Thunderfrost 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’m a 19 year old man in Gen Z. The most common shit test I receive these days from girls my age is “are you a fuckboy”. Whenever I push girls away that get too clingy, I do feel a bit bad about it. But when I read shit like that interview, my conscience rests easier.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is a fuckboy anyway and whats the correct response to that question??

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good post. Women need to be humbled and kept under guidance. Stay with her father until he finds a man suitable to marry her cause these females don't know what they want until shit hits the fan. If no father then she needs to go to the best father figure relative. Us millennials and the next generations I honestly don't see much hope in marriage. Sad as it is, I still have hope, but what man wants to be consistently on his toes? Woman are suppose to make marriage easier not harder.

This crop of woman this generation hits so much bad definitions its ridiculous: ironic, narcissistic, contradiction, manipulative, egotistical, solipsistic, bpd, promiscuous, lying, cheating, stealing I could just keep going. It's not about hating woman but man they need to look themselves in the mirror.

[–]RareForevernk 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Tl;dr: skanks be acting like redpilled guys and dudes are pussies.

Use your brain. Be bold. Enjoy the fruit.

P.s. if you haven't bought dinner for at least 2 sluts this week you're a faggot. /s

[–]Thunderbird93 0 points1 point  (1 child)

lmao, I'd rather invest in some molly, pop it with her.the human body is a machine so i just biohack with these hoes :)

[–]RareForevernk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Serve it to her on a plate with a side of broccoli lol

[–]Chitlinsandgravy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes I wonder what society today would be like if women didn't sleep with these cats in the 1st place.

Dualistic mating strategy, solipsism aside.

[–]socialplague 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It’s funny, when you get a new car you might think it is unique and cool. Then, while driving around, you see everyone driving that car. You just never noticed.

[–]socialplague 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah! Got a shadow ban for that one. Now, thats fucking funny. Branded a heretic now lol

[–]Dawnguards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Why Do Girls Dump Their Boyfriends?" Hypergamy... zero loyalty. zero love. Yes somehow no one ver even mention love anymore. And what do blue pilled guys get brainwash? Women=love entity.. they love their children, men..family.. lol its almost opposite.

[–]hagakure80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jack has a lot of good videos, I ran across his channel earlier this year and seen that video about 3 weeks ago or so. RP all the way and it’s very sad when women have to give guys tips on how to be men. Oh well, more for us I guess.

[–]OPTIMUSL1ME 0 points1 point  (4 children)