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I have recently discovered that I have a real love for wearing cologne. Cologne is something that many people enjoy wearing, although obviously there are some who don’t care for it at all. But there are tons of choices out there today, and many of them are somewhat pricey. So I thought I would share what I’ve learned so far.

Unlike women, no one teaches men about fragrances. Mothers often take their daughters perfume shopping. It is rare for a father to do the same. The lack of knowledge and openness about fragrances pushes many men to choose between two bad options. First, play it safe and wear nothing. Second, wear something light and clean, so that you don't offend anyone.

Smell is the greatest memory trigger we, humans, have. Sniff the shirt you wore last night and memories of a great evening out floods your brain. Roll over to the other side of the bed and smell the pillow where your partner slept and you may catch yourself smiling. In short, fragrances capture memories. They do more than that, however. The cologne you wear communicates to those around you who you are.

I'm sure you've already heard tons of advice about cologne. The one I hear most often is that men should wear perfume that girls like. Sales associates often tell me to get this or that juice because it's a best seller or popular with the girls. There is, however, a tiny problem: it doesn't work. Here's why:

First, no guy has ever gotten a girl just because he smells good. A good scent might improve your chances, by say 10%, but that's about it.

Second, reeking of cologne that every other guy is wearing smells of desperation. Trying too hard repels any woman faster than you can spritz some more Armani Code on you.

The one piece of advice you need to forget right now is to buy perfume just because the someone else likes it. Here's the piece of advice you need to remember: the only person you wear perfume for is you. Your scent should say something about you. This is why you wear something you like, just for you.

“But Chuck, what if no one else like it on me"? When someone tells you they don't like your fragrance, they usually mean any of these three things:

1. They may not like a certain note in it. If someone doesn't like the smell of vanilla, they won't like any vanilla perfume, not just yours. It's not that it is a bad scent, it is just that they don't like that note. (I personally don’t care for vanilla in a cologne)

2. They may not like it on you. This is usually the case when your fragrance doesn't match any or all of the three: your style, age, or the occasion. If you are a hardened biker dude, wearing a light floral scent would make you the butt of countless jokes. It's not that the scent is bad, it just doesn't fit your cultivated image.

3. You put on too much of it. This is probably the main reason why people tell you they don't like your juice. Putting on a fragrance is like putting spices in your food. You want to put just enough to give it a nice flavor but not too much to overpower the dish.

Cologne is the same way: you want to put just enough to enhance your image, not to overtake it. You want people to notice you, not your cologne.

Now let’s talk about the terms used when discussing fragrances – knowing these can be very helpful for finding exactly what you want:


Simply put, a note is like an ingredient. Notes are divided into three categories or levels: top, middle (or heart) and base (or bottom) notes. The combination of all these notes together is known as the “accord.”

Top notes

Top notes are the first notes you smell when trying a fragrance, so they are the ones that shape your first impressions of a scent. These often fresh, fruity scents are usually light and burst on your skin as you spray, fading 10-15 minutes after applying. How many times have you tested a fragrance only to be turned off right away? Why? Because the top notes didn't make a lasting impression on you. It is hugely important that the top notes not only succeed at luring you in, but also smoothly transition into the heart of the fragrance.

Popular top notes include bergamot, orange, grapefruit, lemon, and basil.

Heart notes

The middle notes, or the heart notes, make an appearance once the top notes evaporate. The middle notes are considered the heart of the fragrance. These notes form the core of the fragrance. They last longer than the top notes and have a strong influence on the base notes to come. A perfume's heart is generally pleasant and well-rounded. It is often a smooth combination of floral or fruit tones; sometimes infused with spices like cinnamon, nutmeg or cardamom.

Popular heart notes include lavender, rosemary, black pepper, geranium, and juniper.

Base notes

The base (or bottom) notes are the final fragrance notes that appear once the top notes are completely evaporated. It is these notes that you remember most and that help create a memory in your mind, the lasting impression. The base notes mingle with the heart notes to create the full body of the fragrance.

These often rich notes linger on the skin for hours after the top notes have dissipated, but are typically associated with the dry-down period - that final stage of wear, when the top and middle notes give way to the base note. The amount of time it takes to reach the dry-down—and how the dry-down will smell—is unique to every individual, which is why the same perfume might smell different on you than it does on others.

Popular base notes include vanilla, sandalwood, cedarwood, jasmine, and patchouli.

Next, let’s look at the different concentrations of fragrances available. Keep in mind that although I’m mostly writing about men’s fragrances, these descriptions apply to fragrances for the ladies as well.

Eau Fraiche - Usually contains about 1-3% essential oil, making it the lowest of all available fragrances. The term Eau Fraiche translates to fresh water. It doesn’t last as long on the skin but is still very popular, especially among those who cannot afford the often-prohibitive cost of true perfume.

Eau de Cologne (or just "Cologne") - 2-5% perfume oils. Top notes will be the most prominent, and the scents themselves will last only a few hours. These are usually the least expensive as well.

Important to note here that when we use the term “cologne,” this is often a generic term for men’s fragrances and does not necessarily refer to Eau de Cologne.

Eau de Toilette – Toilette was the name given to the ensemble worn by the French aristocracy in the courts of the 18th century, which eventually came to mean the process of preparing oneself for polite company. Eau de Toilette was a key part of this, splashed on the body or clothes for a more pleasant aroma. These days it usually contains around 5-10% essential oils, and can be reapplied throughout the day.

Eau de Parfum - 10-15% essential oils and can last five or more hours at a time on one application. Middle notes flourish here, as the scent has a greater longevity. Typically the strongest concentration you are likely to find at a conventional fragrance counter.

Perfume - the finest, most expensive and strongest formulation available, with 25-40% essential oil content . Perfume has a significant depth of scent, can last a full day on one application and allows the wearer to experience all three levels of fragrance. It should be applied sparingly and, in contrast to its high concentration, is intended to be a far more subtle aromatic experience.

Keep in mind that when we use the term ”perfume,” this is often a generic term for men's and women’s fragrances and does not necessarily refer to pure Perfume.

A couple of other terms that are important are Sillage and Longevity.

Sillage (pronounced “see-yazh”), or projection, is a French term that describes the ability of a scent to be smelled at a distance; the bigger the distance, the stronger sillage is. It is the “trail” that the scent leaves, sometimes referred to as "the sense of a person being present in the room after he or she has left".

Longevity, on the other hand, refers to how long a fragrance lasts on your skin once applied. Important to note here that due to evaporation, alcohol content and a number of other factors, a fragrance will smell slightly different over time, and this is part of the longevity factor as well.

And the two don't necessarily correlate - sometimes we encounter fragrances with huge sillage but short longevity, and vice versa. Performance is an objective measure of sillage and longevity against the actual fragrance itself.

How Much is Too Much?

One of the biggest mistakes you can make when it comes to cologne is over-spraying. You know a guy, or worse you are the guy, who announces his presence with his cologne. He’s the guy whose cologne gets there ten minutes before he does, and EVERYONE knows when he’s arrived.

Even if your cologne smells great, you don't want everyone to smell it. It's tacky and shows ignorance about cologne, style and social manners in general. This can be tough because it is hard for you, as the wearer, to tell whether you've put on too much cologne.

Here's what you can do:

  • Start with one spray and see for how long you can smell it on yourself. If you can barely detect it within 30 minutes, then you can allow yourself to put some more.

  • Ideally, on the following day put on two sprays. If you can smell it comfortably (i.e. it doesn't make you choke or feel uncomfortable) within 30 minutes, then this may be the right amount to put on.

  • Remember that you, as the wearer, can smell your cologne less than other people can. The reason is that you get used to it – your nose gets desensitized. This is why others can detect it at much smaller amounts.

  • If, within half an hour of putting it on, you can smell your perfume by moving around without it overwhelming you, you've put on the right amount.


Applying cologne is simple but people have made it complicated. Let's start with some of the more popular bad pieces of advice on how to apply cologne:

1. Walk Through the Mist

In theory, applying fragrance this way works. You spray your perfume in the air and you walk through the mist. The fragrance mist will stick to your body, clothes and hair distributed evenly. The only problem with this advice of applying fragrance is that it doesn't work. You end up wasting it.

2. The Aftershave Approach

You pour a small amount in your palm and you slap it on your cheeks and neck. For unknown reasons, someone decided that the most manly way to apply perfume is by slapping it on your face. Unlike walking through the mist, slapping cologne on your face and neck works but it has some adverse unintended consequences.

Since perfume is usually a lot stronger than any aftershave, your palm ends up reeking of your cologne. That on its own is not a bad thing... until you have to shake someone's hand. Having your hands smell of another guy's cologne, no matter how good it is, makes you wonder what else he has transferred over. Did he wash his hands when he went to the washroom? How many times has he washed his hands since he applied this cologne that his palm still smells?

3. Rub and Dab

The rub and dab is another approach to applying fragrance. You spray some perfume on one of your wrists, rub your two wrists together and then you rub your wrists on your neck or behind your ears. Rubbing your perfume "bruises" the fragrant molecules and the scent doesn't develop as it should. You end up destroying the Top notes and blunting the Middle notes somewhat as well.


It's really quite simple: spray directly on your skin and you are done. It's that simple but there is a trick to it. The tricky part applying cologne is not how you put it on but where you put it on. The human body has certain areas that are naturally warmer, called hot spots. These are usually places where you can feel your pulse (neck, wrists, the inside of your elbow, etc.). Since warmth helps fragrance develop better, it makes sense to apply your cologne on those areas.

Through experience I found out that if there is only one spot you want to put on cologne, it is your chest. When you spray there, some of the perfume rubs off on your undershirt and the smell ends up lasting longer. The chest area is also warm, which helps your cologne bloom more if you were to spray it on your forearm.


If you’ve never really given this much thought, then a good place to start is the Fragrantica website. You can search by name, Notes, etc. If you know some fragrances you already like, you can enter each of them in the search bar, go to the page, and there will be a section on that page suggesting similar fragrances.

There’s also a page on Fragrantica called What fragrance do women love on guys? that has comments suggesting a ton of popular fragrances that women tend to like. There’s even a pie chart that one of the commenters posted that breaks down fragrances by “main notes that women appear to like.” This is based on his own personal experiences, so YMMV.

Not that you would be buying a fragrance to impress anybody, and you may not like any of the suggested ones in this list, but it’s a nice start.

There’s also the Fragrance Wheel, which is another breakdown by Notes to help you understand what kind of fragrance suits you best.

In addition, Fragrantica has their Fragrantica Awards Voting section, which shows the most popular selections based on votes by Fragrantica members. Some good ideas there.

Ultimately though, you’ll have to go and try some out and see what works on YOU. Everybody’s body chemistry is different, so that cologne that smells amazing on your friend may smell funky on you. So go to a Perfume Store, or a Fragrance Counter at your local department store like Macy’s. If you know what kind of scent you’re looking for, give them the info you have so they can help you find something that fits you. If you haven’t done your research and just want to get your feet wet, ask them for some suggestions. They will spray different colognes on slips of paper for you to smell. Make sure you don’t touch the paper with your nose, otherwise it will color the rest of the samples you smell. Also, any good perfume counter will have a small jar of coffee beans available – you smell these in between each sample, and it “clears and refreshes” your nose to separate the scents. Otherwise, they all start to blend together after a while.

IMPORTANT - Once you have settled on a fragrance you like, ask them to spray it on you. Give it ten or fifteen minutes, walk around, and really get an idea of what it smells like on you. Then ask for a sample and try it out for a couple days before committing to a purchase. Not a big deal if you’re buying something relatively inexpensive, but when you’re buying a bottle that’s on the pricey end, you want to make sure you don’t change your mind on how much you like it after you’ve worn it for a couple days (ask me how I know). Then go back and get a bottle if it passes the test for you.

I’ve been doing this for about 3 years now, and I’ve got about 10 different fragrances, ranging from inexpensive to fairly pricey, that I wear pretty much every day.

I almost never leave the house without applying some, because I like to smell good. Unless I’m going to the gym – don’t be that guy.

Here’s some of my personal favorites:

  • Terre d’Hermes eau de Parfum – my signature scent (wearing it today). Citrus, woody, spicy.

  • David Beckam’s Instinct eau de Toilette – very inexpensive, amazing scent, smells like nothing else out there. Citrus, aromatic, woody, warm spicy.

  • Acqua di Gio by Armani eau de Toilette – a light, summery scent. Citrus, aromatic, marine, fresh spicy.

  • Azzaro – Wanted By Night eau de Parfum – Elegant, bold, classy. Just got this one, it’s very strong. Woody, aromatic, fresh spicy, citrus, warm spicy.

[–]thebadmanpuntdbaxter 165 points166 points  (24 children)

I’d argue this is an advanced optional topic. For guys still getting their life together don’t get caught up in cologne intricacies before you get the fundamentals down. Ie Spend as much time as you need prepping meals sunday before you run around dept stores looking for perfume. When you have the basics down pat youll have time for accents like this

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 97 points98 points  (10 children)

Why not do both? Your point is well made though, this shouldn't be a primary focus over and above the fundamentals.

[–]zyqkvx 11 points12 points  (3 children)

You contributed value to the forum. You shouldn't withhold information because you are fearful people can't think for themselves and prioritize working out and getting their shit together as a priority.

Don't worry a about your rank in collective think.

I'll add that not only does cologne make you more attractive to women, it gives them an excuse to be attracted to you. Also, you are adding to the halo effect. Not many men wear cologne so it's like peacocking without the embarrassment.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Was your comment intended for me?

[–]zyqkvx 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yes. On first read I thought other guy was saying you shouldn't have posted at all, on second read I'm not sure he was saying that.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh okay, I didn't take it that way. I saw it as "don't put the cart before the horse."

[–]thebadmanpuntdbaxter 23 points24 points  (3 children)

You absolutely can do both. You can gild a turd but its still a turd. My emphasis is specifically on timing and depth. Spergs have more than enough to do with a weak power of will where this can very easily be used as a distraction from physical discipline. It is no doubt a valuable step, but approaching it early and with this level of detail would be overkill. New guys are better off getting a quick rec or playing scent roulette at tjmaxx. Depth on a topic comes with time. Or this is a wild goose chase laid out it true zen fashion

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 22 points23 points  (2 children)

You know, when you put it that way I absolutely see what you're saying. This is very good advice!

You can gild a turd but its still a turd.

Like $3,000 rims on a beater.

[–]voxiqs 3 points4 points  (1 child)

But look at da wheeeeelz, they spinin

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And everyone is gonna think they are awesome! As soon as I get the engine running so I can drive it...

[–]Pires007 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Because a lot of dudes are going to skip lifting and over applying cologne. It's the male equivalent of lipstick on a pig

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

True. But anyone who has been here for any length of time reading and doesn't understand the importance of lifting and diet is hopeless anyway.

[–]Joshua_Naterman 20 points21 points  (8 children)

Part of basic "getting your life together" is implementing basic self-grooming, and that does include cologne.

Even a small container lasts months, and it takes perhaps one hour checking samples with a female assistant at a decent department store to identify something you will like, see how it smells on you, and grab a few small samples if there is more than one that you really love.

Do not make the mistake of thinking that a one-time, relatively low effort purchase is somehow farther down the priority list than meal prepping or hitting the gym:

Always take care of low-effort, low time commitment, high-impact items first.

Miss that workout to get your hair cut. Skip meal prep for a weekend and go find out what scent you like, and buy some clothes that look good and fit well while you're at it.

We're talking about maybe a half-day including drive time, parking, lunch, and drive home, with the end result that you will smell good for months.

The result is that you will feel better every single day, and that is part of building a habit of success and internal motivation that bleeds into everything else you need to work on.

It's just IRL min-maxing.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

Basic hygiene, but perfumes are filled to the brim with chemicals, you should definitely not wear cologne everyday.

[–]Joshua_Naterman 22 points23 points  (3 children)

I... am not sure where you expect an impressively vague comment like that to go, but since I am a medical doctor I will attempt to bring your concern into proper context.

To bring some context, lets start with some basic information.

Depending on the sprayer, each mL of cologne or parfume will give you 3 to 10 sprays, with most being on the 5+ sprays per mL.

Relevant discussion: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/301408-If-I-do-3-sprays-Approximately-how-many-wearings-of-a-1-7oz-bottle-can-I-get

One mL happens to be the size of 10 average rain drops... so you are literally making a fuss over one to three rain drops per spray, with one to two sprays being sufficient for proper application... quite a bit of which never reaches the skin!

Now that we have established the daily dose, let's talk about the composition of this miniscule volume!

1) Solvents, usually alcohols: these are the vast majority of the volume and evaporate within a single minute... often within 10 seconds.

2) Fragrances, which evaporate more slowly and are almost always naturally-occurring essential oils.

Over half of whatever actually hits your skin from the 1-3 sprays you should be using will evaporate without absorbing.

Then there is the final critical factor: what amount of this insanely small amount of cologne actually gets absorbed?


2% or less seems to be a pretty reasonable estimate based on this and other similar studies.

To bring this together, you are worrying about 2% or less of a fraction of a single rain drop, most of which evaporates nearly immediately.

This amount of anything that actually gets into your system is so incredibly small, much less than the residue from your daily fresh laundry or even from rolling across a few flowers, that worrying about cologne or parfume is very nearly the most absurd thing you could possibly do.

I hope this brings some sanity to the conversation.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dear God, the man has a family!

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Good post. But even a subtle amount of perfume is enough to cause allergic reactions for some people so still gotta make sure ure not one of those.

[–]-Skinwalker- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For this reason I prefer just using scented oils. They're astronomically cheaper, smell very very similar to name brand colognes, and last longer (7-9 hours).

Sure you don't get as much dispersal but why do you need a girl 20 feet away from you to smell your new Creed fragrance? Be a man and walk up to her. An arms reach of dispersal is more than sufficient.

[–]TheSclerae 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Alcohol and water are both chemicals, so I guess you're technically correct.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not a matter if im technically correct, I am factually correct. Water and alcohol are chemicals, but neither of those have any catabolic effects (unless you drink alcohol). Perfumes typically contain benzophenone-3, BHT and phthalates these can all affect your hormones. Not exactly what you want.

[–]RPCJoeMak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The post about cologne is a great post. Any guy with a minimal operating level can surely handle working on some basic RP stuff while at the same time looking down the cologne aisle. The fun thing about the RPC world is that we can all work concurrently on a wide range of topics. I sure hope we don't have to get all the basics figured out before we can start looking into topics on the level of cologne. If not, we might never get to the cologne topics. Most folks work on the basics for the rest of their lives, either fundamentally or in tweak mode. Long live cologne! Lol

[–]lady_baphomet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because picking out a good cologne is generally a one time thing.

[–]GuruDev1000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right. But the post still needed to be made for some.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's not that hard to do man. go to the shop smell them. find one you like and wear it.

[–]TheEagleAndTheSnake 23 points24 points  (9 children)

Here's my list of scents to try out and consider. Dollar signs indicate pricing as you correctly guessed. As you can often find perfume lines on the market, the EDT/EDP/Cologne/Parfum/Whatever is the one that I would pick. A/W for Autumn or Winter, S/S for Schutzstaffel am I banned yet? and Both for, well, both.

Either go to a store and try them out or order multiple samples.

Also, do not buy an expensive scent with the intention to get women. Do it for you if that's your thing (it's mine for sure). Women will be more turned on from smelling your natural scent if you lift, eat clean and don't smoke, do drugs or drink too much. Potential business partners won't give a fuck if you smell nice if you can make them good money.

The list:

  • Bentley for Men Absolute EDP ($) A/W
  • Dior Homme Intense EDP ($$$, my top 5) A/W
  • Saunt Laurent L'Homme Intense EDP ($$) Both
  • Bleu de Chanel EDP/Parfum ($$$, Illimitable Man wears this, amazing and can be worn anywhere, my top 5) Both
  • Creed Aventus ($435/100ml - you get what you pay for, IMHO the best scent on the market, my top 5) Both
  • Davidoff Zino ($, buy vintage, new is not as good) Both
  • Burberry London ($) A/W
  • Bvlgari Man in Black ($$) A/W
  • Guerlain L'Homme Ideal Cologne ($$) S/S
  • Terre d'Hermés EDP ($$$, my top 5, OP sure fucks) Both
  • Lalique Encre Noire EDT ($) A/W
  • Thierry Mugler A-Men Pure Havane ($$, my top 5 and signature) Both
  • Thierry Mugler A-Men Pure Malt ($$) A/W
  • Prada Luna Rossa Extreme EDP ($$$, dominant note is black pepper, sharp and stands out) Both
  • 4711 Echt Kölnisch Wasser ($, original cologne, 200+ years old, clean barbershop smell, love it) S/S
  • Tom Ford Neroli Portofino ($$$, basically expensive 4711 with amazing longetivity, original fades quickly) S/S
  • Tom Ford Oud Wood ($$$) A/W

Bentley for Men Absolute is probably the best value out of them.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Bentley for Men Absolute EDP ($) A/W

I put it on my "to try" list.

Dior Homme Intense EDP ($$$, my top 5) A/W

Already on my list, moved it up.

Saunt Laurent L'Homme Intense EDP ($$) Both

Already have the L'Homme, not my favorite one but it's nice.

Creed Aventus ($435/100ml - you get what you pay for, IMHO the best scent on the market, my top 5) Both

Near the top of my list.

Davidoff Zino ($, buy vintage, new is not as good) Both

I put it on the list.

Burberry London ($) A/W

Not for me.

Bvlgari Man in Black ($$) A/W

I had considered this once before, might check it out.

Guerlain L'Homme Ideal Cologne ($$, my top 5) S/S

Hmmm, different. I'll give it a try!

Terre d'Hermés EDP ($$$, my top 5, OP sure fucks) Both

Haha my signature scent, this stuff's amazing!

Lalique Encre Noire EDT ($) A/W

Was considering this, especially because it's relatively inexpensive. Can you tell me, does this smell similar to anything else?

Thierry Mugler AMen Pure Havane ($$, my top 5 and signature) Both*

Tobacco and vanilla. Not for me.

Thierry Mugler AMen Pure Malt ($$) A/W*

On the list.

Prada Luna Rossa Extreme EDP ($$$, dominant note is black pepper, sharp and stands out) Both

Amber and vanilla. Not for me.

4711 Echt Kölnisch Wasser ($, original cologne, 200+ years old, clean barbershop smell, love it) S/S

Where did you find 200+ year old cologne? I'm intrigued.

Tom Ford Neroli Portofino ($$$, basically expensive 4711 with amazing longetivity, original fades quickly) S/S

Added to the list.

Tom Ford Oud Wood ($$$) A/W

Not for me.

I actually have a decant of Tom Ford for Men original 2009 formulation on the way, should have it soon. Can't wait to try it out, it's my first Tom Ford buy.

Great list, thanks for the suggestions!

[–]TheEagleAndTheSnake 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Was considering this, especially because it's relatively inexpensive. Can you tell me, does this smell similar to anything else?

Not that I'm aware of. It's a very unique edgy scent, woody and smokey, nothing sweet in it. Autumn, falling leaves, fresh misty mornings, long walks in the woods. That's what I get from this. Goes very well with a suede jacket.

Tobacco and vanilla. Not for me.

Give Pure Havane a try. It's the best tobacco scent there is. It's not overly sweet, it's rather decent.

Where did you find 200+ year old cologne? I'm intrigued.

It's just the company and the brand that's been around for 225 years. No idea if the recipe changed over the years or not. You can buy it almost anywhere here in Europe. Doesn't last very long but comes back surprisingly strong when you sweat - I wear this on summer dates. HBs are always pleasantly surprised with the scent that comes out of nowhere.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a very unique edgy scent, woody and smokey, nothing sweet in it.

Thanks, I'm gonna pick some up.

Give Pure Havane a try.

Okay, it's on the list.

It's just the company and the brand that's been around for 225 years. No idea if the recipe changed over the years or not.

Gotcha. Thanks!

[–]cryptoreporter 1 points1 points [recovered]

I generally like the woodsy smokey noted fragrances. Coach Leatherware #2 was my fave for a while. BOSS Hugo Boss is a bit more peppery, less woodsy and I can wear it anywhere, usually work. Recently bought Tom Ford Tuscan Leather which is the only thing I wear when I go out at night. Spray it on in the morning and you can still smell it 24 hours later. Definitely worth the money. If Im near the beach or its just sunny out I wear Tom Ford Neroli Portofino, also on your list. It just reminds me of Italy and I like the smell. They have a stronger version... Forte I think it is. It lasts longer than the regular Neroli Portofino. Tom Ford basically copied 4711 which is also nice but lasts literally 30 minutes. You can buy a vodka sized bottle for 30 bucks, keep in the fridge and pour it all over yourself after a good workout or sex. Feels super refreshing. The Tom Ford Oud Wood... wasnt a fan of it at first & now Im thinking about it after the gal at the Tom Ford boutique said it smells like a fine whiskey after a few minutes. Shes right it does.

[–]TheEagleAndTheSnake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't like the Neroli Portofino Forte, something's just off in there for me. If you haven't, try the Mandarino di Amalfi by TF, it's full of citruses but more mature that the Neroli Portofino/4711. Yeah I keep my 4711 in a fridge too, put it in an atomizer bottle and everytime I'm about to begin working in the morning, after my cold shower, I spray this on and around me and it's wonderful. Actually gets my concentration on point too as I've been doing this for some months now, shout out to my nigga Dr. Pavlov.

[–]king_kay_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Solid list. Aventus is King. It's the only scent that has given me crazy reactions and compliments. However it is now too popular and I think they reformulated/substituted one/some of the ingredients, so it is not as good as it used to.

I can also vouch for: * Dior home intense EDP * Terre d'Hermes EDP * Thierry Mugler Pure Malt (signature) * Tom Ford Oud wood

My go to (don't have to think to reach) is: Davidoff Cool Water. Say what you want, but this is a classic, it's cheap and the rub down only smells better as time passes, longevity is 10/10 too.

• Tom Ford Neroli Portofino ($$$, basically expensive 4711 with amazing longetivity, original fades quickly) S/S

I have this and smells amazing but rarely use it because the performance sucks (for the price you pay for, it's disappointing). Did they reformulate this to last longer now?

[–]TheEagleAndTheSnake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No idea, I've never had any problems with performance (only with the original 4711 which is ok as it is a cologne), my bottle is new and comes from the AA6 batch which is Oct 2017.

I hear a lot of complaints about the different Aventus batches! Nonetheless my experience with this frag has always been amazing. Even though I don't own a bottle myself.

I have a love/hate relationship with Cool Water. I love the vintage one from the 90s. That's a stunner even for me and I hate aquatic fragrances. But nowadays the juice is too chemical and doesn't last very long, it's supposed to be the same but the reformulation is just not quality. I have a bottle I haven't seen in two years as I want to prevent being disappointed again. I haven't included the scent because vintage bottles are harder and harder to get by.

[–]TRPKid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

+1 For Dior Homme. I love it.

[–]Jbaked3 31 points32 points  (10 children)

La Nuit De L’Homme - Saint Laurent Chicks love this smell

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I keep seeing this one suggested, so I'm making this the next fragrance I try. Thanks!

[–]ExistentialEnnuii 3 points4 points  (2 children)

dont bother, its watered down to oblivion get a vintage batch if your going for it. Last i tried it longevity was 2 hrs.

[–]JaMDKinG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you are getting bad shit then because I just sprayed this on last night before going out bar hopping. I could still smell it on my skin around 24 hours later. It's slowly becoming one of my goto colognes for night time. And yes, bitches love it.

[–]512165381 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Its the best "new" YSL fragrance.

[–]RestlessInVegas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A personal favorite of mine. The fact that women almost always compliment me and/or demand to know what fragrance it is that I'm wearing is just an added bonus.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I thought l’homme libre was better but I think they dsocontinued it

[–]frontyer0077 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love it. But I actually have had girls tell me they absolutely hate it. But its more of a date fragrance then going out partying fragrance.

The fragrance I have gotten most compliments from is Caroline Herrera CH Men (one chick sprayed her jacket and never washed it just to smell it every day lol).

And Invictus Aqua is awesome for summer time

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try fahrenheit is you want older women. Or just any girl. I've been wearing it since i was 16.

Risky choice: Spicebomb by victor & ralph

[–]Snazzy_Serval 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Thanks for the guide.

Couple quesitons.

When should you put on cologne. I've heard everything from right after you get out of the shower to right before you get dressed.

How long should cologne last on you?

How much should you actually wear. I know you mentioned that already, it's just that when I wear cologne it seems like nobody ever knows.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

You're welcome.

I get dressed and then put it on in the morning. I never use more than two sprays. Believe me, those around you know (unless you're wearing just a tiny bit). They just aren't saying anything.

How long should cologne last on you?

Depends on the longevity. Each fragrance is different, and each person's body chemistry is different. I have found that eau de Toilette lasts 2-6 hours on average, and eau de Parfum lasts anywhere from 6-18 hours depending on the fragrance.

[–]zyqkvx 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I disagree with you on a level about putting only a small amount. If you are going to a get together that's going to last 4+ hours there are tricks to keeping some smell on you.

Here's my version of putting on cologne:

Do not pool cologne in one place, especially hot spots. If you do 4 sprays in the same square inch of your neck or inner elbow people will smell it before you even get there, as you said, and when you are there they are thinking, "is that coming from his inner elbows?"

Do spray a fair amount as a thin layer on non-hot spots from about 8" away an hour+ before. Spray after you get out of the shower (or about an hour before you arrive to the event) up to 5 sprays on chest, shoulders, back. Air puff some of it out immediately. If you spray thin the smell dissipates all too soon, but since you have a fair amount of surface area a token amount of scent will survive 4+ hours.

Just before you leave (preferably) put a small amount in chosen hot-spots. This will give you some high notes for awhile. I worry less about high notes because they go away relatively fast. Good for short meets close to home? The places I go are an hour away and last 4+ hours.

Do not use 'men' scented deodorants, after shaves, etc, unless they are top notch I suppose. I use unscented deodorant and let the cologne do the talking.

Learn to wash your shirt the night before an event, in the sink is not peasant. Filling and emptying a bathroom sink 4 times the night before can make your shirt as clean as fuck, much better than a washing machine can. Hang it up in the shower with a small fan blowing that direction for the next day. Women love clean shirts, and women hate cologne on dirty shirts. Women fetish nice cologne on a clean as fuck shirt. Just never mention it and you are exploiting the halo effect.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like you've really thought about this. I don't usually have that much time to be able to follow your version, but I can experiment a little based on what you've shared. My main point in the post was just to not overdo it. If you have the time for it to dissipate some, then this could definitely work.

Do not use 'men' scented deodorants, after shaves, etc, unless they are top notch I suppose. I use unscented deodorant and let the cologne do the talking.

I use Axe Black antiperspirant - it is scented, but very subtle. Axe is the strongest, and since it is hot where I live 3/4 of the year, I need one that lasts all day. Axe is the only one that passes that test for me, and the Black scent is the most subtle of the whole line.

Filling and emptying a bathroom sink 4 times the night before can make your shirt as clean as fuck, much better than a washing machine can. Hang it up in the shower with a small fan blowing that direction for the next day. Women love clean shirts, and women hate cologne on dirty shirts.

I've got enough shirts that I never have to wear the same one more than once before washing, so this isn't an issue for me.

Thanks for the advice!

[–]logicalthinker1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol you're such a fucking loser

[–]Deimos94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How much should you actually wear?

For eau de toilet I use 2 sprays on the chest, one on each wrist and one on my long hair or clothes. For some EDT I only use 3 sprays, depends on the strength. For eau de parfume I use one spray on my chest and one on my wrist, then tap (not rub) it on the other wrist, then tap that on my neck.

[–]OpiumPhrogg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What works for me, is I shower and use unscented body wash (the blue Ivory), towel dry, wait about five minutes, which is brush my teeth and style hair. Then I do one spray on my chest aiming slightly upwards to catch my beard hair a bit. I finish getting dressed then in most cases I will just do one spray across the back of my neck. If I am going out then I will do one spray on the chest and then one on each side of my neck aiming behind the ears a bit.

As far as how long does cologne last on you, that depends on a number of things, like the concentration (EDTs generally last less than EDPs), how the scent works with your body chemistry and your olfactory fatigue, you may think the scent is done after two hours but it's just that your nose is burned / used to the scent and everyone else can still smell you just fine.

[–]theBreadSultan -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

here is a quicker guide to perfume cologne

Don't. There is an old Polish saying. "Man should smell like tobacco, alcohol and horses. otherwise how do you know your not getting into bed with a woman"

also - your fucking around with your pheromones

[–]VipKyle 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Chanel blue always gets me compliments.

[–]ConstrictedAnus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

100% on Blue de Chanel. Always go for the Parfume version. Anything less is not quite the same.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're the second one to suggest this one, moving it up on my list. Thanks!

[–]katttd17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve always loved this cologne on men!

[–]clamops 34 points35 points  (9 children)

Theres this cologne by Creed called Irish Tweed. Hands down the best smelling cologne on the market. It's very pricey, but well worth the investment. If you can't afford it, Acqua di Gio is my go to.

[–]zyqkvx 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Creed is the shit. They have the most nuanced top-notch sophisticated scents that are far above pretty much everything else, unfortunately they are insanely priced. I've never owned any, but have sampled them a number of times.

Peeps, go straight to Creed if you have money to burn.

[–]2virusofthemind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with Creed, in my opinion Aventus is the best there is. Having a substantial cologne selection myself I can say without hesitation that more women have asked what I'm wearing when I have a spray of Aventus on, than all my other colognes put together.

[–]barry3428 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I disagree. They are a niche house, they have great ingredients, but most 80% of the blends are not anything special.

I've owned green irish tweed and it wasn't for me because of my age and style, but it was one of the better Creed fragrances I've tried. I currently own Aventus and it doesn't wow me because there is simply way too much hype around it, because men like it more than women and 40 year old dudes who think they need to smell good instead of lose weight and groom themselves have found a way to get women.

They are good fragrances, but as you said they are not worth their price. Might as well find some clones from other companies. As far as their other male fragrances, they love putting salt in them. Creed Viking, that overhyped release from 2017 smells like you started a fire in a salt mine. Creed Erolfa is the same, another popular men's frag from them, like you brought a bunch of sea-water in a salt mine. Millesime Imperial is nice, but doesn't last long enough.

So, if you ever see a niche label and you think inside of those bottles is the juice of the gods, let me tell you, it's not. You'll have a hard time finding people who actually like the fragrance because niche blends are so "different". Stick to designer until you have time for the niche hobby, testing a bunch of different fragrances in niche stores with a salesman up your ass the whole time.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Millesime imperial is excellent but I’d almost buy it for a girlfriend cuz it’s so unisex.

I still love aventus. I know it’s hyped as fuck in the “cologne community” but if I wear it out, nobody knows what the fuck it is. Creed in general isn’t some super popular house like Chanel.

And women love it just as much.

[–]ExistentialEnnuii 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Or grey market. Try armaf tres nuit to try it out, though get the real mccoy if you can.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You're the third person to suggest this one, I'm moving it up on my list. I can definitely afford it. Thanks!

[–]OpiumPhrogg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can also try Armaf Le Parfait. It's like GIT with a splash of Aventus and a teensy bit of Viking all mixed together.

[–]wasserkocher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Creed is great. Aventus is my favorite - it often gets compliments.

[–]sh0nuff 3 points4 points  (8 children)

I've been collecting and wearing cologne for years, but my current gf was the first one to admit that I usually wore too much. Although this guide states that direct application is the way to go, I have found that spraying at your bare chest from a distance of a foot or so is the perfeft balance between a close spritz and walking through a cloud.

Be careful about applying some essential oils directly as they can actually burn the skin. It's easy to make this mistake with some beard oils if your hair is sparse.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I'll give this a try. I definitely don't want to be "that guy."

Be careful about applying some essential oils directly as they can actually burn the skin. It's easy to make this mistake with some beard oils if your hair is sparse.

I've had good luck so far with scents, and I don't use beard oils or anything like that. Good advice though, thanks!

[–]sh0nuff 0 points1 point  (6 children)

For sure!.. My scents to recommend are Hanae Mori, Fahrenheit Summer, and Paco Rabanne. The former is really unique. Stands out. Look for the original and avoid any variants. Same goes for the latter.

The middle one is discontinued, from what I understand but it's absolutely amazing. So warm and vibrant. Lasts all day on the skin and moves from fruity to spicy, with undertones of tobacco.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Hanae Mori

Tried this one last time I went shopping, didn't care for it.

The middle one is discontinued, from what I understand but it's absolutely amazing.

You can still find it on Ebay, but I'd want to try it before I bought it.

Paco Rabanne

Which one? I didn't care for One Million, but I tried Invictus and liked it. They gave me a sample when I bought the Azzaro, so I have worn it a couple of times since then. I might pick this one up in the near future.


[–]sh0nuff 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Paco pour Homme, the original.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I had never heard of this before you mentioned it, but looks good. I'll check it out, thanks!

[–]sh0nuff 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You got it! If we can find a way to exchange or something, I could send you a few drops of Dior Summer for your perusal

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If you are willing to decant me some, like maybe 10ml or so, and put it in a small bottle I'd be willing to pay for it. I want to be able to wear it a while before I decide.

If I've got something you want to try, we could work out a trade.

[–]sh0nuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure. Toss me a DM and we'll sort it out.

[–]BurntYams 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Great post OP, question tho. I’ve read the comments by you and others and a lot of people have up to a dozen of different colognes. Some for specific occasions and for the different seasons and various other reasons. My question is, which is better? Wearing one really good cologne and having a signature smell year round, or change ur smell by wearing different colognes per occasion but not have a signature scent?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, it's really a matter of personal preference. I get bored easily, so even though I have my signature scent, I like to change it up day to day. I go by whatever I'm in the mood for on that particular morning.

[–]tony-bromo 3 points4 points  (6 children)

I wear YSL l’homme at day and YSL la nuit de l’homme at night. Best fragrance/fragrance combo there is imo

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

How similar is the L'Homme to the la Nuit?

[–]tony-bromo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They’re not too similar in scent imo. I can tell that they are both YSL, but regular L’homme is a lot sweeter and seems more versatile. La nuit has better performance and is more unique though.

Personally, I wear L’homme more often. I’m young (16!) but I wear L’homme to school and work every day. I wear la nuit when I go to a party/hang out with girls

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I appreciate the comparison! Unique is definitely what I'm looking for.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Check out lhomme libre if you can still find some. Imo it was the best of the line

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Checked out the Notes, it's not for me. But thanks for the suggestion!

[–]landre14 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Le Labo - Vetiver 46


Le Labo - Rose 31

I randomly stumbled upon samples of these back in 2012--been wearing them ever since. Incredibly refined and amazing scent. I'm proud to wear them.

[–]BitSizeBitcoin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I read this whole thing in Bob Ross' voice.

This is such valuable and positive advice for men. I really do wish there were more boards where men could help men.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks, glad you found it useful!

[–]OreoAcetate 1 points1 points [recovered]

Louis Vuitton L'IMMENSITÉ is my go-to. It just came out not too long ago but it’s by-far my favorite. I’ve gotten compliments on it from both men and women alike.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Louis Vuitton L’IMMENSITÉ

Hmmm, that looks like it might be one that would work for me. Added to the list, thanks!

[–]OreoAcetate 1 points1 points [recovered]

Of course.

Also, you seem to know your scent but just as an FYI, I didn’t like it when I smelled it off the stick at the store. They gave me samples and it wasn’t until I actually sprayed it on a few days later that it instantly became my favorite.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's why I love samples - they provide a good opportunity to try a bunch of scents over multiple days; better than just trying it yourself in the store because you can wear them where you usually wear them. Familiar surroundings provide context.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

For poor college students, Zara sells clones of more expensive fragrances. Not all are cut from the same cloth, so do some research beforehand. It's a fairly good entry point.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy 1 points1 points [recovered]

Nah just buy brand name colognes off eBay. Get "testers" which are full bottles that were used for sampling without labels on them. You can get brand name colognes for like.. 60 bucks. Lasts years even if you use them everyday.

[–]1nowboarding 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Are they the real ones or convincing knockoffs? Which countries are these testers coming from usually?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 2 points3 points  (9 children)

Protip there's also a Solid cologne option. It's useful to have that ondeck if you start smelling some type of way and don't wanna carry a fragile expensive glass mega disaster.

[–]512165381 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After breaking a bottle cologne on the changing room floor, this is a good option.

[–]zyqkvx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Solid cologne

That sounds useful for the car. I'm guessing they aren't car heat tolerant? If they are for on the go, how do you properly store them?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Somebody mentioned that on my post on MRP as well. I have no experience with solid colognes, I may just have to get one and see. Thanks!

Also I never take my bottles anywhere, they stay home. I have some refillable pocket sprayers I can take with me if I want.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's very hard to talk about these things without comming across like a shill. But I can promise you no company wants to be Red Pill GaylubeOil endorsed.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Understood. But I've been here long enough to know who is the real deal and who is not. Endorsement accepted, and there's a Fulton & Roarke 7 miles from my house.


[–]1nowboarding 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Where did you get the refillable pocket sprayer you use? Any links to see the one you have or recommend?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Sure. I bought some at Perfumania in town, but they stopped carrying them. Some of them leak, so I've gotten rid of the ones that did. I've seen Bestbottles.com recommended online quite a bit, I'm probably going to buy from them next time.

[–]1nowboarding 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks. How do you actually refill those from the original cologne bottles?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The caps unscrew, and you just put the small bottle right up to the spray head and spray from the big bottle directly into the small one.

Roll-on applicators are filled the same way. They gave me a free one when I bought the Azzaro.

[–]ThePounder 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Thanks for writing this up. It’s always good to get someone else’s view on an interesting topic you like.

My favorites include:

  • Dior Homme parfum (Extremely long lasting, multiple days on clothing, very masculine)

  • Chanel Sycomore (Officially a women’s scent, but extremely masculine, quite expensive and only available at Chanel stores)

  • Chanel Egoïste (Masculine, slightly less ‘dark’ than the Dior Homme)

I also have a question: do you think that the bottles have a certain ‘shelf life’? I am asking because I own about 10 bottles of perfume. Some are large, some are small. My LTR always suggests I use them up quicker. Admittedly I have had the same large bottle of Bleu de Chanel for about 5 years, because don’t love the scent as much as I love others; it’s boring. What do you think? Has the scent decayed to the point where I should just toss it out?

[–]barry3428 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you keep the bottles away from sunlight and heat, so preferably not in the bathroom near a window, but rather in a shelf in your bedroom, you could be good for up to a decade, or even more. Most boxes have an indicator telling you how many months it is good for, but just use them at your own rate. I don't pay attention to those, and neither should you. I think you're good on the Bleu de Chanel, and I totally get you, it's way too generic nowadays considering it's so accessible to everyone.

[–]ThePounder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely agree. It's extremely generic. I'll keep it in a shelf in my bedroom and will dig it out in a few years. Thank you.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Thanks, I've definitely got the Dior Homme on my list to try.

I also have a question: do you think that the bottles have a certain ‘shelf life’?

Well nothing lasts forever, but there are many fragrances that are highly sought after in their original formulations, especially the high end stuff. So I would say most fragrances don't expire, and the original formulation is often the best.

Admittedly I have had the same large bottle of Bleu de Chanel for about 5 years

You've just grown tired of it. Put it away and don't wear it for a few years. You'll probably like it more when you break it out again.

[–]ThePounder 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Great idea! I tried Terre D’Hermes today and it’s absolutely amazing. I’ll get that to replace the Bleu.

Also tried Instinct as per your recommendation, I hated the initial scent but after it dried a little it was much, much better. Good recommendation for guys starting out; though I personally wouldn’t wear it.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome, glad you liked the Terre d'Hermes!

I'll bet if you put the Bleu in a drawer for 2 or 3 years, when you pull it out and try it again you'll find it amazing again, like it was when you first bought it.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Fuckin hell I have a weird thing with Terre D’Hermes.

Smelled it at this restaurant and it was so fucking good I had to ask the dude what it was (nohomo).

So I go to the mall that week and try it and it just doesn’t smell the same. The notes just don’t come together the same way.

Month later I’m at a different mall and try the Terre D’Hermes sampler there. Holy shit that premium scent is there again! So I buy a bottle.

Take it home and again again the bottle just doesn’t smell the same as the sampler in the store or the dude in the restaurant. And yes I made the distinction between the parfum and toilette.

Anyway every time I see a sampler of it I try it. And it never again has lived up to those two times. Elusive.

But homie you should check out the Creed fragrances. Specifically imperial millesime and aventus. And if you like cool water then throw green Irish tweed in there too.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, Creed fragrances are at the top of my "to try" list.

[–]Meta-h 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Love seeing this here because it’s just part of the details that create the full package. Sorry but you can have all the game in the world, but if you’re not taking care of the basics, they’re not sticking around.

I like long lasting but understated colognes, i.e., a girl I met last week as she got close to my chest says “ohhh... you smell good” as she cuddles up to me. I like this approach because it’s really only for the girls that give a shit to get close enough and when they do, it’s the icing on the cake. My favorites right now are Dolce & Gabbana, The One (funny I know), and Yves Saint Laurent, L’Homme Ultime.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good choices, they're on my list. Thanks!

[–]coopdawgX 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Dior - Sauvage.

You are welcome.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

I might try that one at some point, but so many people seem to be wearing it right now. I like to pick scents that are somewhat unique, helps me stand out.

[–]grandmasbroach 6 points7 points  (3 children)

If you like citrus and spicy stuff. Try out this one called Eight and Bob. There's a cool story behind it. JFK met a fragrance maker on a trip to Europe and loved this stuff. So, he had the guy make him a bunch to take back to the US. Then, a bunch of celebs from that time caught on and started to wear it too. It's like a more refined, almost antique version of aqua do gio. Probably my favorite right now. Not to mention, it isn't well known. So, you will most likely be the only one in an office or on a night out, wearing it.

It is in the expensive side. However, I find one spray is more enough. https://m.sephora.com/product/eight-bob-original-P416051?icid2=similar%20products:p416051:product

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hmmm, I looked it up on Fragrantica and it might work for me - depends how strong the Amber is.

Many reviews said this is a classy fragrance though, so I'll add it to my "try it out" list. Thanks for the suggestion!

[–]grandmasbroach 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They do samples if you email them and ask. It's in my top three for sure, and I'm kind of like you in that I've learned how to use fragrances properly. The others would be Armani code and possibly Jean Paul Cartier. I like Jean Paul because of how unique it is.

Anyways, the best way I can explain eight and bob is, aqua di gio that isn't for frat boys. It is a sweet one, but not over the top because the amber balances the citrus and sweetness back out. It has a distinctly classy, refined smell all the way till the end. Every note is perfectly balanced and works with the others incredibly well, in my opinion that is. It's hard to describe fragrances with words. So, do yourself a favor and get a sample. Hell, it has such lasting power that a sample will last a month or three and give you a good idea of if it is something to add to your collection. Imho, it is a staple for anyone who likes higher end fragrances. A must have.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll definitely get me a sample and try it out, thanks for that!

[–]RandomJin 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Although it does work, it is getting very popular. So if you want to smell unique, don't get this one.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha yeah, like One Million. I keep seeing the comment "If you want to smell like one million other guys in the club."

I'd rather find something more unique myself. That's partly why I picked the Azzaro, I haven't smelled it on anybody else, and it just came out this year.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Good points and takeaways from this but some of it came across extremely pseudosciency

"The rub bruises the fragrance molecules"

Makes zero sense because by that logic the cologne splashing around in the bottle would also lead to 'bruised/damaged' ''''molecules''''

The rub and dab is best because only people talking close to you can smell it and not everyone in your vicinity such as if you were to spray directly onto the skin.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Makes zero sense because by that logic the cologne splashing around in the bottle would also lead to 'bruised/damaged' ''''molecules''''

That's a fair point. I think it's more like when you rub it into your skin, it doesn't allow the Top notes to be smelled very much, because you've changed the evaporation rate. The scent changes as it evaporates, that's how the different Notes are revealed.

The rub and dab is best because only people talking close to you can smell it and not everyone in your vicinity such as if you were to spray directly onto the skin.

If that's working for you, then I see no reason not to keep doing what you're doing.

[–]Devils_Duke 1 point2 points  (11 children)

Any recommendations for an anosmic (born with no sense of smell)?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 2 points3 points  (8 children)

David Beckham's Instinct. I have yet to get anything but compliments on it.

[–]NoAARPforMe 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I am not a big scent guy, but have started wearing daily per MRP suggestions and this post. I ordered Beckham's Instinct and have got numerous compliments. My wife loves the smell also and she is maybe feeling a bit of dread that I am wearing it everyday now. All good!

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha that's awesome! Glad you liked it. Dread FTW!

[–]Devils_Duke 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Oh shit not even that expensive! Literally costs about the same as his underwear. Thanks.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You're welcome! It only lasts about 2 hours or so, but for the price I don't mind having to reapply it.

[–]Devils_Duke 0 points1 point  (3 children)

And if you were to recommend a longer lasting one, what would that be?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Terre d'Hermes eau de Parfum, for sure.

Also the Yves Saint Laurent l'Homme eau de Parfum is nice, and it lasts longer than any of the other ones I have.

[–]frooschnate 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You tried the new Yves? The Y one.

It‘s one of the nicest smelling fragrances I‘ve tried.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not yet. Added it to the list, thanks!

[–]DochreanSepp 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Offtopic but can you taste food?

[–]Devils_Duke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but not like you. Apparently we can "detect taste but not flavour", whatever that means. Basically I miss all the subtleties.

[–]JaJammerJan 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Do you ever get remarks on the cologne you are wearing? I've been wearing Terre d'Hermes, but I have never received a single remark about it. Just wondering about other people's experiences.

Whilst I really like the Terre d'Hermes scent I think it sort of smells too professional/serious? Like something you would wear to work, to dinner, to a family gathering, etc. Thinking of getting another scent for more casual situations.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Nah but girls are way more receptive. Trust me. Smell is hamster fuel and if you are somewhat relevant i bet she talks with other girls about how you smell good all the time.

Also men treat you better for some reason.

[–]officerkondo 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The other day I had a few office girls go crazy when I walked past wearing Aventus by Creed. They called me back so they could smell me closer and asked the name.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah they crave that Aventus power dick.

Try millesime imperial by creed too. It’s not as masculine as aventus but it’s “rich as hell” and an excellent scent overall.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to know, definitely on the list to try out!

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I wore the Acqua di Gio to work yesterday and one of my workers asked me to write down what it was, he wanted to buy some.

I've never been asked specifically about the Terre d'Hermes, but several ladies have told me it smells really nice on me.

David Beckham's Instinct is the one that I get "OMG, what are you wearing!?" from the ladies. It's a very unique scent.

[–]grandmasbroach 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I use an almond scented soap I get at my local farmers market. Then, use Armani code. I've been stopped dead in my tracks many, many times just so some thot can smell me.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha, always a good feeling when a hot girl wants to smell you!

[–]uNhoLeee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

armani code is great, a bit spicy and heavy though. I didnt like it after i sweat, and I cant remember any one asking me about it. probably best for winter, or a cool day/night.

Gucci by gucci? silver top glass bottle, similar to the one above, a bit spicy, but great in summer. was told I always smell so good wearing this one.

[–]buttgoogler 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Fragrance is underestimated by a lot of men. A couple of years ago in my blue pill days, when my game was utter shit, my frame was close to non-existant and i was tiny it helped me get laid. I used my dad's perfume and she actually said that I smelled so good she couldn't resist it. Learn how to pick and use the one that fits you and you'll step your game up instantly.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Learn how to pick and use the one that fits you and you'll step your game up instantly.

Yes, it's a small but important part of your game. Everyone likes when someone smells good!

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also bad smell is repulsive. Not many things repulse me in life: meeting betas, fat people, ugly people. They dont really "repulse" me. But bad smell? Fuck.

And im not even a female. I imagine its amplified much more when being judged from a woman

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I get good remarks on Mont Blanc, still, 10 years after first discovering it. It’s not my go to cologne, but if it’s cheap girls I’m shooting for on a Friday afternoon (while listening to Yacht Rock), it does the job.

One problem: younger females (under 25) confuse it with A&F. I clear that up real quick and explain that I’m married. Please rid me of your presence.

I’m in a good mood, what can I say.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're the second person to recommend Mont Blanc, I've moved it up on my "to try" list. Thanks!

One problem: younger females (under 25) confuse it with A&F. I clear that up real quick and explain that I’m married.

I'm married too, and 49. But getting hit on is never a bad thing :) Abundance mentality FTW!

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m pretty sure mont Blanc legend hasn’t been out ten years. I’d guess only 5.

[–]thewrecker8 1 point2 points  (1 child)

  • Start with one spray and see for how long you can smell it on yourself. If you can barely detect it within 30 minutes, then you can allow yourself to put some more.

  • Ideally, on the following day put on two sprays. If you can smell it comfortably (i.e. it doesn't make you choke or feel uncomfortable) within 30 minutes, then this may be the right amount to put on.

The only issue I have with this advice is the nose gets accustomed to smells fairly quickly. If you're wearing cologne chances are you're likely not going to notice the smell much, if at all after a fairly short time. You'll likely notice the same thing with a woman wearing perfume. It'll catch your senses at first but when she's around you for a date or the night you barely smell it even if others can. Imo you're better off finding someone who can give you honest feedback on weather you smell like you bathed in it, can't smell it, or seems about right. After your sense of smell becomes accustomed to a smell you barely notice it, if at all.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is true, you do become desensitized to a scent once you've been around it for a few minutes. Best thing to do if you're still not sure is have a friend wear it, and see how strong it smells on him. Don't wear any scent yourself, so you can be objective.

[–]NormalAndy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’ll go check out the David then. I was looking for something new- thanks!

[–]Buchloe 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Redolessence is one of a number of fragrance review channels on YouTube. His channel in particular has several videos looking at inexpensive choices that closely match their high end counterparts. Some nice Aventus clones out there, for instance, for much less than 300 bucks. These guys also rate fragrances on their situational usage and season, in case you're new to it. Dracdoc, Robes08, Fragrance Brothers, Fragboy Stewie and Street Scents are a few other reviewers I like. Fragrancenet is also a great resource for ratings, and then there's sites like Notino where you can order at a high discount, or buy testers versus going to the mall and buying retail. I agree though, this is a pointless and potentially expensive hobby of you don't have your main bases covered first

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome, thanks for the suggestions!

[–]A_solo_tripper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I was super young, I wore cologne. I tend not to wear any as a grown man. I work on washing really good, nice deodorant, and baby oil.

There was a research study done which focused on what smells turned a woman on the most. Cologne was NOT one of scents. Take it for what it is worth. Do your research before spending $$ on a cologne.

[–]luzarius 1 points1 points [recovered]

This is why I love this subreddit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dolce and Gabbana - The One Gucci - Guilty

The only 2 you’ll ever need to buy again

[–]SelkciPlum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want to smell unique and have a long lasting, high quality fragrance that develops over time I suggest looking towards niche fragrances. I see some suggestions for Creed, one of the more mainstream niche brands. If you have the cash to spend, dive right in and buy some samples. Might I recommend:

[–]unlived_life 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Clinique Happy for men.

You will never see this post. Consequently, I shall continue to dominate!

[–]1nowboarding 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Do stores usually sell samples? How large are they and how much could they cost compared to the full version?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stores give them out, they're free. But they don't keep them very long, so if you're looking for a specific one you might be out of luck. Amazon - you can find tons of different samples there for 5-10 bucks each on average.

[–]Wood_Screw 1 point2 points  (1 child)

L'Occitan Eau de Toilette has a very unique smell, it's quite memorable, organic and not deodorant-like in the slightest. It does cost about €50 but it'll last you a year if you use it right.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like I might like it. Added to the list, thanks!

[–]PanzerBiscuit 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You and I have very similar tastes in fragrances. Terre d'Hermes is a gem and of of my favourites.

I can recommend Viktor Rolf Spice Bomb and Atkinson 24 old bond street. Both are great scents

Good write up

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I'll add the 24 Old Bond Street to my list.

Viktor Rolf Spice Bomb

Couldn't stand this one, reminds me of le Male.

I appreciate the recommendations!

[–]qball43 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Went out to Macy’s and checked out some cologne today because of this post. Went with suavage dior. I dig it.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice, glad you found it useful!

[–]halfback910 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Glad you covered wearing too much. Fucking everyone hates those guys, good Lord. If I have to cover my mouth walking behind you in a hallway, you're my enemy now.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that was actually one of the main reasons for writing this post. Everybody hates "that guy."

[–]ollyollyollyoioioi 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I like Aventus. It attracts attention without putting any more than 2 sprays on and it lasts all day. I have definitely had more positive experiences with it however, my nose gets fatigued with it easily and it makes me want to put more on. I dunno if older women are generally more confident or if cougar pheromones are an ingredient but after my experience, I might be too young for it. A lot of men, straight and gay like it too. I have directed so many people to where they can buy 10ml dispensers that I should really try and make commission.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love Aventus too, but it disappears to my nose after about 15 minutes, no matter how much I put on. Girls seem to like it though.

I also like Green Irish Tweed (it's my wife's new favorite actually), Creed Bois du Portugal, and Azzaro Chrome. Chrome is probably going to be my new signature scent, it lasts all day and smells amazing on me. Dior Homme Intense is pretty good too, and lasts all day as well.

I also traded for a bottle of Mont Blanc Legend after trying a decant of it - classic barbershop scent. Good stuff.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Perfume seems like something Austin powers would wear

[–]Robster25 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Second, wear something light and clean, so that you don't offend anyone.

Worst advice ever. Wearing perfume depends totally on the situation. I own about 10 perfumes, which I wear depending on the season and the occasion.

Something light and clean is okay in the summer, but when it gets cold you should wear something more heavy (For example Dior homme intense, Armani Code profumo etc.). And don't wear perfume to please other people. Sure it's nice if they like it and you get compliments, but you should like it yourself.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yes, you're right that is bad advice. I think you might have missed the first part

The lack of knowledge and openness about fragrances pushes many men to choose between two bad options. First, play it safe and wear nothing. Second, wear something light and clean, so that you don't offend anyone.


And don't wear perfume to please other people. Sure it's nice if they like it and you get compliments, but you should like it yourself.

Exactly. I wear it because I enjoy it. If others like it and/or give me compliments, that's a bonus. It's not the reason I wear cologne.

[–]Robster25 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I'm retarded sometimes. I blame it on the lack of sleep.

[–]adminsaregayniggers -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

if you own 10 perfumes you're a fucking fag

[–]snowie42 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Burberry Touch. I used to use this. Would recommend it.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll add it to my list, thanks for the suggestion!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wear Burberry Brit 90% of the time. I have 5 other bottles of various other colognes but this is my go to for a casual day. I'm on my second bottle of it which I think says a lot for the scent.

[–]DaftOdyssey 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm not well versed in this topic, but does the time of day matter when it comes to wearing a certain type of cologne? Like you wear a type of cologne for morning then a different one during the night time

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's really all personal preference. Some people will say that there are some for day wear, and some for evening wear. Some people don't care.

To get an idea, look for that fragrance on Fragrantica and read the comments. Many people will say "This is a good one for an evening out" or something similar. You can use that as a starting point. The Azzaro Wanted by Night is considered an evening wear cologne, but I've worn it to work several times since I've gotten it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What I did to find the right scent was try a new cologne everyda and see how people responded to it. I would walk through the cologne store and soray myself then continue onto work and henceforth consider attraction to the smell. For my dog butt smelling body

1 Dior Sauvage

2 Burberry

And I didn’t give a damn what men thought of it. I only considered women’s feedback, even st my own expense for personal preference

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That's not a bad approach, but my primary concern is finding scents that I enjoy wearing. Others' responses and comments are a bonus, they are not the main reason I put cologne on.

But hey, most people care if others think they smell good, and that's not a bad thing. Just be careful about making the opinion of others your deciding factor.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok. I think you should do your method and I will do my method ❤️🙋🏼‍♂️

[–]foreignbois 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I love cologne myself, Terre d'Hermes is a staple. Recently got their new scent (forgot the name but translated to the garden on the border of the nile), OP did you try that? It's a little more feminine which somehow works out greatly with girls. I also got hella comments on Violet Orchid by Tom Ford and that's a unisex perfume too.

Though my all time favorites are YSL - L'Homme for daily, La Nuit de L'Homme is great for going out spring/fall seasons, Tom Ford's Tuscan Leather is so fucking expensive but I'm loving it...

If I'm in a suit, regardless of the setting though, I'm rocking Mont Blanc's Legend. Something about it is so simple yet so nice, so elegant...

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Legend is also my current.

Check out the libre version of the ysl lhomme line. It was my fav before discontinued.

Terre D’Hermes the most frustrating scent ever. Sometimes premium, sometimes flat.

Try gucci pour Homme in the Smokey grey bottle. Very solid scent.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Recently got their new scent (forgot the name but translated to the garden on the border of the nile), OP did you try that?

Un Jardin Sur Le Nil Hermès? Haven't tried it yet, but I'll add it to the list.

Violet Orchid by Tom Ford

Never heard of it, do you mean Black Violet? If so, that one is discontinued. I'm waiting for a sample of Tom Ford for Men right now, the original 2009 formulation. It will be my first Tom Ford buy, can't wait to try it!

Mont Blanc's Legend

All of your suggestions look like possibilities for me, I added them to the list. Thanks!

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’ll second teh Mont Blanc legend. It’s a guaranteed panty wetter

[–]foreignbois 0 points1 point  (1 child)

my bad - i meant velvet orchid. the bottle is purple-violetish lol legend from MB is pretty solid, i'd say its perfect for business professional environments. i also forgot to mention this, and it is a bit expensive, so be wary, but currently my two favorites are creed's aventus (men women gay people etc literally so many people comment on it) and guerlain's l'homme ideal... both are pretty solid scents.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I'll get some samples and try them out. I'm not dropping $300+ on a bottle of cologne until I try it first, but if I like it I have no problem spending the money.

[–]AlQWEffos239 0 points1 point  (3 children)

In my option it’s much cheaper and better to put on lotion. After I get out of shower I apply coconut chocolate lotion on my whole body. Keeping my skin hydrated and smelling good.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

That's great, I use lotion too but only on my face, neck and hands - and I put it on after my shower, before bed, so you can't really smell it the next morning.

But like Bill Burr says, it keeps you from being "ashy."

[–]AlQWEffos239 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’m black and it’s embarrassing as my friends would scratch a Nike tick on my arms and roast me for the whole day. I guess it’s negative reinforcement. I usually tell family that “ you gotta respect yourself” and I’ll add by saying putting coconut oil on your hair after the shower also helps.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha that's too funny! Yeah, proper self-care is essential.

putting coconut oil on your hair after the shower also helps.

I don't put anything in my hair, just shampoo/conditioner. And I live in the desert Southwest, it's hot here most of the year. I can't imagine sweating and having coconut oil residue running down my face. But if it's working for you, then awesome!

[–]Krang_thedragon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Tom Ford- Black Orchid. Use a better and smaller atomizer, it's strong. Go light. It's controversial, but I also enjoy being 'scent' interrogated in the sheets. And it's happened more for me with this scent than any others I've tried on the list or recommended comments.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Somewhat controversial as this is a women's scent. But I see on Fragrantica that men do wear it as well. This is a maybe for me, I'll get a sample and try it out. Thanks for the suggestion!

[–]Vakleri 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Smells good, put it on. End.

[–]Batmanforreal2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My suggest: Heeley paris - sel marin. Its incredible

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That looks like it may work for me. It's on the list, thanks for the suggestion!

[–]jacobwlogodesign 1 points1 points [recovered]

My dad wore polo classic. The green one. I get A lot of compliments and the scent last a while

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Original Polo is a classic for sure, and smells really good, but I have too much nostalgia associated with it to be able to wear it myself.

[–]digitalcakez 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Knize ten. You won't regret it.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll add it to the list, thanks!

[–]MicroPixel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thank you for this post, it was very informative

[–]ethreax 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is it so that for each fragrance you have esu de toilette, eau de parfume, parfume,... or some are just eau de toilette others just parfume,..?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's different for each one, but I would say at least 50% have an eau de toilette and an eau de parfum. But you're right, others just have one or the other.

Pure Perfume is more rare, and you'll only find that in very top end places or online. It should say Pure Perfume, which is stronger than Parfum.

[–]JSuma 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Everyday I choose between my bottles of Guerlain Homme Intense (mojito/tobacco), Versace Eros (subblegum/lemon), and Aventus Creed (smoke and pineapple). I live in Florida and these three get me through any occasion. They smell great and I get plenty of compliments.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Guerlain Homme Intense

This one is near the top of my "to try" list.

Versace Eros

Don't care for this one.

Aventus Creed

Near the top of my list as well. Thanks for the suggestions!

[–]gonzo1986_2017 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Armani Code... Best Thing.. Also Boss bottled.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Armani Code

It's not bad, but a little too sweet for my taste.

Also Boss bottled

Others have suggested this as well, I'm going to move it up on my "to try" list.


[–]angeltruck 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Have any of you had an experience with the Versace - either Pour Homme or Eros? A good mate of mine has a birthday coming up and their favourite brand is Versace so I was looking into these two but I'm still open to suggestion.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I have only smelled Versace Eros, and while it's not for me, all the reviews I have read say that most younger men love this fragrance. I also looked at the Pour Homme on Fragrantica and it seems like one I would like.

If I were buying for a friend, I would go with the Eros.

[–]angeltruck 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks dude, super helpful :)) I appreciate it.

[–]barry3428 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pour Homme is more versatile, and literally anyone will like it, whereas Eros is 50/50. To me it smelled like coca-cola in a bottle, which I would not like to smell like. Go for the PH, mass-appealing, one of my go-to's when buying a gift.

[–]OmeletSupreme 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My absolute fav has been Dolce & Gabbana “the One” Eau de Parfum - only drawback is it doesn’t last too long

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amber and tobacco. Doesn't work for me, but thanks for the suggestion!

[–]justthebeliever 0 points1 point  (1 child)

LMAO I think the purpose of fragrances is to improve your confidence above all else. That bit about "hard biker dudes" was as misleading as it is homoerotic. You should wear whatever you like because that is what will make you feel confident.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha it definitely wasn't intended to be homo in any way. Just using a bit of hyperbole to make the point that you should choose something that makes you feel confident, which also suits the image you've chosen to cultivate.

I agree, wear whatever you like.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Old Spice cologne, Aqua Velva aftershave. You smell like a grandfather--old-fashioned, dependable masculinity. Not what you want for hooking up at the club, obviously. Unless she's into that.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Old Spice. Yeah, don't want to smell like my Dad.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

My dad was the best, so I'm more than happy to smell like him. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Mine was too. But that doesn't mean I want to smell like him. To each his own.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You said it. I could talk for ages about ties like your post does about cologne, so I'm all for posts like these on the sub as a break or advancement from more basic theory, whether it benefits me personally or not.

[–]lady_baphomet 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I also recommend learning how to layer scents together, since most bath and grooming products often carry have some perfume added ( even in men's products). Part of why a perfume or cologne may not jive well is because you may have used a shampoo or body wash that contains a fragrance that does not mix well with the spray you are wearing. This was something I started to notice when my work implemented a "no scent" policy. I had to start using unscented stuff, so now I have started to be able to smell body products, and they DO carry a powerful scent that can rival your perfume.

So, when you pick a fragrance, make sure it also matches or complements other products you are wearing. Oh and if you do not like the idea of spray perfume, try out solid perfumes many come in unisex scents, last a long time, aren't as costly, and can only be smelled up close.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You're the third person to recommend a solid scent. GayLubeOil put up a link in his comment, the store is right near my house.


[–]lady_baphomet 0 points1 point  (1 child)

LMFAO "GayLubeOil"

Lush does some REALLY good solids, I use them instead of the spray, they have a lot of good unisex / men's scents. My bf uses their Dirty scent, but the Cardamon Coffee was really alluring. The body washes are pretty strong too, the bf and I rarely even need to use perfume anyway, and we both always get complements on how good we smell.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good to know, I might check those out. Thanks!

[–]Cum_Victor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have been looking for potential fragrances since I am about to run out of my Polo Ralph cologne. I am gonna check out that David Beckham one first.

[–]ClassyNotFlashy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ck one for men is also a good one...I've experienced it last a couple of days and sometimes when I wash clothes I can still smell it

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That looks like something I may like, added to the list. Thanks!

[–]OpiumPhrogg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice post. The only thing I have an issue with is:

" Start with one spray and see for how long you can smell it on yourself. If you can barely detect it within 30 minutes, then you can allow yourself to put some more"

Just like everyone's unique body chemistry, everyone's olfactory fatique is different and different for different scents. Some fragrances actually seem to "dissapear" on the wearer within the first hour only to have them over apply and then stink up a room or suddenly come back full force after a few hours.

You also want to use unscented soap/shower gel like Aveno or Ivory.

You should hold the bottle 6-8 inches away from the location you want to spray.

I would also say that if you are quite new to the fragrance game, there is nothing wrong with trying knock offs or cheaper designer fragrances to get a feel for what notes you like, of course this may be something you would want to do on the weekends just in case your cheapie smells like musk and 3 day old whiskey breath.

Also, some fragrances are more versatile than others so be mindful of that. As a general rule, dark, leathery, and gourmond type scents work better during cooler times of the year where aquatics, freshies and fruitier scents work better in the warmer weather, of course some work all year and for all occasions (work, events, walking the dog, etc.).

Remember, what smells good on someone else may not always smell as good on you.

[–]litskypancakes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heads up: A couple of great ones that I found that are nice smells and don't overpower even if you use a little too much, are from Bath and Body works. My 2 choices are Teakwood and Suede, both smell nice and last a good while. It's about 40 bucks a bottle (about mid-range price for cologne) but they last a good couple to few months as long as you're not using it excessively.

[–]PM_mecolorlasernudes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

John Varvatos Vintage one of my favorite for fall/winter. Check it out guys.

[–]Whodatunkit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Little late, but. The real answer is, wear what their dad wore. Great topic and explanation though.

[–]Chitlinsandgravy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Kenneth Cole Vintage Black, Teakwood Ultra Shea body cream. My favorite combination.

The body cream starts off strong, within 30min the scent is absorbed into my clothing. Has a great passive effect.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've got the original Kenneth Cole Black, any idea if the Vintage is similar?

[–]Chitlinsandgravy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's been years since I switched to Vintage. I can't recall.

[–]zav25 0 points1 point  (1 child)

One of my favs smell-wise is Tom Ford Mandarino di Amalfi, probably the best summer fragrance I've ever smelt, unfortunately it lasts for 30 mins and barely projects anything. Not worth the money though.

[–]1nowboarding 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Do you usually go with cologne or perfume?

[–]barry3428 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Cologne and perfume, in America, refer to men's fragrances and women's fragrance respectively. Eau de Cologne is also a type of concentration for fragrances, same with "parfum". But in most of the world, we refer to both genders as "perfume". It's just a little technicality. If you're a man, buy men's fragrances, which are referred to as "colognes" and have concentration such as: "eau de toilette", "eau de parfum", "parfum", etc.

[–]1nowboarding 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I meant to ask which concentration, eau de cologne or eau de parfum, he recommends for the mens fragrances.

[–]barry3428 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wrote about this in a different comment, but eau de cologne is pretty weak on the scale. However, some fragrances are called "something something cologne" or "something something fraiche" and they aren't actually of that concentration. Versace Eau Fraiche for example, lasts as much as a lot of eau de toilette fragrances.

But, for an actual answer, go for the ones that are eau de toilette or eau de parfum. Some eau de parfums may be weaker than eau de toilette though, because of factors such as how well the ingredients react together, the quality and longevity of the fragrance oils etc.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I usually go with eau de Parfum, it lasts longer on me. But I have some eau de Toilette colognes as well.

[–]TRPmc117 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks, this was interesting. I had no idea about the top/heart/base notes.

[–]redefinedreality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

whoa, I appreciate the brevity of this post

[–]SuwinTzi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Welp, now I know that scents have three layers.

Personally used CK Euphoria quite a bit. The top notes are really...soapy, but the heart and base layer fit my personal ..."musk" for lack of a better word.

I also found out spraying on chest was best through trial and error; got the best use and I guess "opening" of the scent through that area, more so than neck and wrist.

Though I remember an "Internet True Story" where anon took some of his own ballsweat and applied it on himself like cologne, getting death glares from guys and interested looks from girls. Anyone willing to test?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That Euphoria looks like it might work for me, added to the list.

Though I remember an "Internet True Story" where anon took some of his own ballsweat and applied it on himself like cologne

Think I'm gonna pass on this one lol!

[–]barry3428 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Tip from someone who is very into fragrances and has dabbled with this stuff for quite a while, eau de toilette, eau de parfum, a lot of it doesn't matter. Just because you buy something that say eau de toilette doesn't mean it will last longer than an eau de parfum. Sure, there might be more fragrance oil in the EDP fragrance, doesn't mean that it will last longer. The ingredients in the more concentrated (EDP) version might be weaker or the blend might not go as well together, making for a shorter lasting scent, but still a nice smelling one. Most of my EDT fragrances last longer than my EDP fragrances. It seems to go against logic, but at the end of the day just try different stuff out and see for yourself. It's supposed to be about your nose, your perception, and most importantly, what you like.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Eau de Parfum tends to last longer on me, everyone's different. But I have some eau de Toilettes that I really like too.

[–]WayneForever2Wheels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about the cologne Busted My Nutz ..? Will that get me chicks?

[–]barry3428 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's a great spraying technique, fuck the chest. Always start out with the area 3 inches underneath your ear, on both sides, where you have your internal jugular vein on the side of your neck, here. That way, if you're talking to someone head on, they won't get used to the radiating scent bubble from your chest, and when you lightly turn your head, they'll rediscover it. If you're walking in public, even better, because people passing you by will get whiffs. Third place if you're going for a third spray is always back of the neck, even a bit into your actual hair on the back of your head. Then, just have fun with it. Go for the wrists, don't rub them though because that's idiotic and you're making the scent die down. Rule #1 of applying fragrance, don't rub. Ever. Then you can go back to the ol' chest, maybe your shoulders on your clothes, back of the knees if you want, who cares.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wanna know how to pick out a good cologne ??

Bring a girl to the mall let her pick.

I noticed my girl liked different colognes then what I would’ve picked out and I liked different perfumes on her then she would’ve picked out.

[–]TruthSeekaaaaa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Any experience with equivalent perfumes?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like clones / copies? No, I'll buy the original ones if I buy them.

[–]r0b0b0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wear Mont Blanc Individuel and I've never gotten any compliments. I honestly don't know if it smells good to other people.

[–]mravek 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Question - is it okay to put some deodorant before applying cologne?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Deodorant is far more important than cologne. Use an unscented or lightly scented one so the scents don't clash.

[–]mravek 0 points1 point  (1 child)

any suggestions for a lightly scented one?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Acqua di Gio is good as long as you don't put too much on. In Red by Estelle Ewen is another good light choice as well, and it's fairly inexpensive.

[–]radiantoscillation 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Practical and short advice, French guy here (we’re the perfumed stinkers, that counts). Here’s mines: YSL - la nuit de l’homme Dior - homme intense Chanel - bleu

Eau de parfum, perfume is too much

I also advise terre d’Hermes, or l’homme idéal Guerlain

I had people telling I smell good and asking what it was, so yeah just sharing for you

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I already own Terre d'Hermes, it's my signature scent. Chanel Blue and the la Nuit have been suggested numerous times, so I'm moving them up on the list based on your suggestion. Thanks!

[–]radiantoscillation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dior smells less “fresh” idk the English word for it, it’s a different smell, rather original and so that’s with this one that I get more asked You’re welcome

[–]oooKenshiooo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

A bottle of decent cologne can last you years!
I have the same bottle of cologne since 2012 - I only use it very lightly, it smells amazing and it still leaves enough of my natural smell.

Do not use perfume or cologne over sweaty skin.

It will just make you smell funky.

[–]ChadsNoChump 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I get more compliments on cheap shit like curve and bod black then acqua di gio and Armani code expensive shit isnt always the answer

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a good point - as long as it smells good, that's what really matters.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have a habit of never buying perfume that are in top sellers. Use expensive but original scents and you will stand out much more than 20 guys in a room with aqua di gio bs.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a good point.

Man, Acqua di Gio gets a lot of hate. I think it smells great, and my wife loves it. But I've got others that are better.

[–]didudidule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I buy this Zara parfeum for like $8 and it smells really good, I'm always complimented on it. You don't need to spend '00s on that shit it's not like other guys smell good anyway

[–]ohRyZze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just a little tipp i learend over the years. If you apply cologne directly after a hot shower, it will fade easily. Because your skin is so dry, the cologne doesn't stay on it but rather gets absorbed. If you put on some vaseline first, this wont happen.

[–]PepperSpraynDime 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Actually I'd love to get some advice how to smell good in the gym. I put deodorant in the evening before and just before i hit tbe gym and i wear an EDC just before heading out but i always feel like the scent of sweat reaks through these (the deodorant also have a light scent). (I'm not a fat slob btw but i would say i sweat above average)

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would put on deodorant the evening before, in the morning when you get up, and right before the gym. If you are still reeking after the gym, then I would switch deodorants to something stronger. Look at the percentage of active ingredient on the label and compare brands. Most are 15%, the strongest are 18% or more.

I would NOT put on cologne right before the gym. Don't be that guy.

[–]plumtomatoe 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It is substantially more expensive but if you want a more polarizing and unique fragrance you can try niche perfume like Frederic malle, byredo, etc. It is almost guarantee that nobody wear the same in your area

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I'll check those out!

[–]amn301 1 points1 points [recovered]

Very helpful and detailed post. It helps out a cologne-newbie. Thank you!

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (1 child)

thanks for the suggestions at the bottom man. been a paco rabanne fan for a while now, ( the one in the green bottle and millionaire.) looking to try something new. will definitely look out for your ones at xmass.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're welcome! When I bought the Azzaro it was a toss up between that one and Paco Rabanne's Invictus. The Azzaro was less sweet, and drier (if that makes sense). I got a sample of Invictus with my purchase though, and have worn it several times since. I might get that one too.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Good Article.

I have found my scent in relatively a small italian producer: "L'Erbolario". "Periplo" Especially smells really good.
It resembles a little "eau di Armani", but it smells better, and costs half. I tried the big names, even some you mentioned, but nothing beats one of their perfumes on my skin.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice, I'm glad you found one that works for you!

[–]TRPKid 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ever since I was a little, little kid I had a thing for cologne. I hated wearing watches, still do, and other accessories, but goddamn do I love cologne.

I have been complemented on my cologne to many times to count. It was a sad day when Ralph Lauren stopped making the one that I love and had to find another one.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a sad day when Ralph Lauren stopped making the one that I love

You can probably find it on Ebay if you look around.

[–]drkinferno72 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Cologne is not a substitute for deodorant

And axe is not a substitute for deodorant

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obviously. No one should be thinking about cologne if basic personal hygiene is an issue. First things first.

[–]antariusz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just like clothing comes and goes out of style, so does perfume.

I’ve found that rocking a “timeless classic” works better for me than many of the new current hip styles suggested on this thread.

I still have a few bottles of things I enjoy smelling, I just picked up a bottle of Versace blue this summer that I’ve enjoyed wearing when it’s super hot out, but my long-term go to bottle is obsession for men, it’s older, and maybe not a good scent for a 50+ year old biker or a 20 year old college guy.

But for me, a man in his mid 30s, it’s the perfect scent to pick up college-aged girls and remind them of the daddy that didn’t give them enough love.

[–]Tiigz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have the Azzaro – Wanted and I don't really like it.

Dior - Savage MASTER RACE

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ha, I JUST got a decant of Sauvage yesterday. It smells amazing, and I plan on wearing it Thursday. Great stuff!

[–]vega-mgtow -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You spray some perfume on one of your wrists, rub your two wrists together and then you rub your wrists on your neck or behind your ears.

More "Red Pilled AF", "Advanced Game techniques" like this at: https://www.cosmopolitan.com

This is fucking ridiculous soyboi BS masquerading as Red Pilled content.

[–]Joshua_Naterman 0 points1 point  (0 children)


1) Spray cologne on chest, then immediately rub chest with wrists and forearms, then put your clothes on

2) Don't use a scent you don't like

3) Don't use too much... 1-2 sprays are typically plenty

4) Strongly consider using colognes labeled "Eau de Toilette" or "Parfume"

[–]Automaticdealz 1 points1 points [recovered]

Step 1: buy Creed Step 2: spray once Step 3: enjoy

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Which Creed? Aventus?

This is actually on my "try it" list already. If not Aventus, which one?

[–]officerkondo 0 points1 point  (6 children)

The Creeds I wear most are Aventus and Green Irish Tweed.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Thanks, those were the two I'm looking to try soon. Moving them up on the list based on your suggestion!

If you had to pick one of the two, which should I try first?

[–]officerkondo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Shit, that is a hard one. I am actually facing that decision for tonight - meeting up with an ex who's potentially got some interest so do I go with what I wore when we were dating (GIT) to bring back some memories or something I picked up since we parted (Aventus)? Decisions! I'll probably go with the GIT.

Both are top-notch fragrances that have gotten me a lot of compliments from women. There is nothing like making out and hearing her moan, "you smell so good", and I have gotten that with both. That said, if I had a signature fragrance, it is GIT - I wear it the majority of days I wear cologne. I would say start with GIT because it feels like a more classic fragrance, but definitely try Aventus after that. They are two pretty different scents. GIT is green, floral, and woody, while Aventus is smoky with amber and fruit.

If it helps qualify my advice at all, I'm about five years younger than you. Both scents suit men of our age. But to answer your question clearly, I'd say to try GIT first.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome, that's what I was thinking as well. Thanks!

[–]Immony 0 points1 point  (2 children)

In my opinion it is Aventus. That imperial and santal are the top3 in the creed line, at least for me anyway. But if I had to choose one of all from the creed line I would go aventus. Green Irish tweed is a very springy smell and one that just doesn’t go well in the colder seasons.

[–]512165381 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Some of the David Beckham colognes are good and some are quite cheap. David Beckham Beyond won an award in 2016.

Live Jazz by YSL has citrus/forest notes that women love.

For something cheap that will fill a room - Fahrenheit by Dior.

For that Italian barber shop smell - Lomani.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Some of the David Beckham colognes are good and some are quite cheap. David Beckham Beyond won an award in 2016.

It's got vanilla, which isn't me.

Live Jazz by YSL has citrus/forest notes that women love.

This one looks good, added to my list.

For something cheap that will fill a room - Fahrenheit by Dior.

Even though this came out 30 years ago I've never smelled it. It's on my list.

For that Italian barber shop smell - Lomani.

Added to my list.

Thanks for the suggestions!

[–]Some_Random_Guy_1138 1 points1 points [recovered]

I love Fahrenheit. Been using it for 20 years.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It's on my list to try, it came out in 88 but I've never smelled it yet. I don't mind if it's expensive, I can afford it.

[–]Some_Random_Guy_1138 1 points1 points [recovered]

I meant OP said it's cheap but I am not sure what you guys are buying or earning to consider it cheap.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At $169 a bottle, it's not cheap. I consider anything $50 or under relatively inexpensive. Some fragrances like Creed and Tom Ford go for close to $500. I can afford that, but want to try it before putting that kind of money down.

[–]MichiganManMatt 0 points1 point  (2 children)

High end soap, shampoo, face moisturizer, clean cloths > cologne every time. Up that 10% to 20% easily

Cologne is like a Glade air freshener. It masks your BO, your dirty cloths and your smelly shoes.

If you insist on smelling like a gold chain wearing hairy chested Armenian granite countertop installer, at least use fragrant free soaps and laundry detergent. Don’t use dryer sheets. Buy more shoes than you’ll ever need and rotate them often and by season. Buy new socks and underwear often and throw out the worst pairs

There..now you don’t smell as if you’re hiding something.

Also, I mist and walk. A bottle of cologne lasts me so long I lose more to evaporation. I think my oldest bottle may be going on 12-15 years.

[–]red1392 1 points1 points [recovered]

What kind of high end soap/shampoo would you recommend?

[–]frooschnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I‘m allergic to most shampoos I‘ve ever tried. My scalp gets irritated and it burns like hell.

So I look for peppermint/menthol shampoos. Redken makes a really good one, and Tresemme shampoo is great too.

L‘Occitane makes an amazing shower gel and has plenty of soap options. I‘m trying the almond one right now since my usual one was out of stock.

[–]tsinygosiM 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Goodness fuck man, it's not that big of a deal lol. TRP has really turned into like, the gayest sub.

[–]thebadmanpuntdbaxter -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Point a finger and youve got 3 pointed back at you

[–]ok_hornet 1 points1 points [recovered]

I never wear cologne and I don't even use soap or body wash - women always tell me how good I smell - so I guess it's up to you but my feeling is the natural smell of a man and testosterone is better than any cologne

[–]Phaeer 1 points1 points [recovered]

I really hope that you work with that sort of stuff in your professional life. Otherwise I would think that you spend a little too much time thinking of a very minor part of life. :)

No hate. I just thought it was funny that men could be that engaged in colognes.

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Haha yeah it looks like I've spent a lot of time on it, but it's really just a minor hobby I've picked up over the last few years.

I just thought it was funny that men could be that engaged in colognes.

You'd be amazed how a good fragrance can boost your confidence. Me personally, when I smell good I feel amazing.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I appreciate your effort, when some of these other animals might not. It’s a small part of being refined as a man. A minor detail. But it aids in confidence, and who are we without that critical part of who we are?

[–]rocknrollchuck[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I completely agree!

[–]512165381 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most guys know about this. Anyone who has the slightest interest will read sites like http://www.basenotes.net and pick up the jargon.

[–]DidUBringTheStuff -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Trick: Don't use cologne. I use a Chanel deodorant. A shower + that is plenty and I've had much success with it.

[–]showerdudes9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im one of the few lucky ones with great body odor genes (gotten TONS of compliments for it from girls, them even saying it makes them horny lol.) the less i shower the better I smell they think, too bad men doesnt feel the same. But when I have body odor like that I only need extremely subtle cologne, anything else is a waste.

Clean living, eating, no alcohol etc helps with the BO too.

[–]logicalthinker1 1 points1 points [recovered]

😂😂😂😭😭😭 imagine writing this entire thing thinking it's was genius. What a fucking waste you loser.

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