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[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (10 children)

It bears pointing out that:

  • At no point in this entire process did Reddit administrators reach out the mod team, either in public or in private, and attempt to open a dialogue.

  • Reddit has never publicly made clear what precise decision making process goes into bans or quarantines, who makes such decisions, or whether there is a formal process at all.

  • Reddit as an entity has never troubled to explicitly define many of the terms such as "misogyny" or "racism" which it bans entire communities for. Without such a formal definition, communities cannot anticipate what standards they will be held to.

  • This lack of transparency leads to the strong appearance that Reddit's gradual process of creeping censorship is not the result of any sort of articulate plan or formal, objective standards, but instead the result of a series of subjective decisions by Reddit staff, made based upon their own personal values and opinions.

  • "Don't do anything that upsets /u/spez" is not a set of guidelines... it is the lack thereof.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 335 points336 points  (10 children)

We aren’t your enemy.

That's the strangest thing about this whole saga. This is one of the tightest run ships on the internet. The site wide rules are ruthlessly enforced. Racism, advocating violence against women (and men) and blatant politicking is immediately crushed. Sure, we say things that are uncomfortable, but brigading is explicitly disallowed by the mods and we are entirely tolerant of a huge swath of reddit that does not agree with us. This place is an example of how an orderly, safe sub should be run.

And that gets put in a box...

[–]modSlyGradient[M] 60 points61 points  (1 child)

This is one of the tightest run ships on the internet.

Because we actually have a traditional male hierarchy here with none of that feel-good BS ... of course they would sneeringly dismiss that as a "patriarchy".

[–]Coolstoryjoe1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This ban is outrageous... when I found this subreddit I was pretty shocked at first by some of the content but like many other ppl here it has absolutely helped me not only in my sexual life but in terms of real human development. Disappointing that reddit is preventing other ppl from finding their way. If there's a new subreddit with similar content pls link below.

[–]666Evo 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Sure, we say things that are uncomfortable

Which are true, but against the narrative.

The admin can't have the truth getting out to too many people.

[–]rawrlolrofl 1 point2 points  (3 children)

why do we want the truth to get out? Let the people who find their way out of the matrix get their reward. We've got to keep stability and let the 80% of society keep to their fantasy.

[–]daffy_duck233 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well that's why mods are proposing to remove trp from r.all instead of quarantining

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[–]rawrlolrofl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right? who would want a bunch of other RP dudes cockblocking you with their high value?

[–]DancesWithPugs 53 points54 points  (1 child)

Some of the admins run a brigade and harassment sub called TopMindsOfReddit

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't forget Political Humor. It's a breeding ground for republican hatred. The memes they post are literal hate. Yet they aren't banned.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

blatant politicking is immediately crushed

This seems to be the point of the quarantine. Through #metoo and the Kavanaugh situation specifically, sexuality has been politicized.

This is what changed, and why this sub has gone from begrudgingly accepted to quarantined.

[–]the__aggressor 242 points243 points  (2 children)

This is very well written, thank you u/redpillschool for mounting such a vigorous defense of this subreddit. You do us and the movement proud.

[–]Fulp_Piction 6 points7 points  (1 child)

The notion that we have to refer to ourselves as 'the movement' is absurd, we're just vilified by the rest of the platform and the lazy media that pander to the "minorities can't be racist" demographic to make $$$.

This is genuinely the right conversation to have for the sake of society in general.

[–]q2p3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would be genuinely interested what the dollar value of this industry would be. The more outlandish the story and the more hate they generate the more profit the media makes

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[–]eyewant 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Anger is indisuptably part of the Kübler-Ross model of grief (aka denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance). To deny someone their anger is to deny them their healing.

This needs to go on the sidebar, ASAP

[–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 74 points75 points  (4 children)

Good job calling out the hypocrisy.

Something tells me we're not dealing with due process, but rather appealing to an emotional ratioalization which someone said, "I'll be the one to take them down" for some internet points.

[–]jcrpta 28 points29 points  (2 children)

That was pretty obvious when an accusation was made with no evidence, and the tone was very much "we expect your appeal to explain how you're going to avoid sinning again" (as opposed to "Here's the evidence you've been sinning. What do you have to say to that?").

[–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 12 points13 points  (1 child)

You'd think it would be obvious but so many people don't see it that way. They get caught up in their emotions and reason goes out the window. Schools teach the kids shit, parents are absent, so how are they to know they're being screwed?

[–]jcrpta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think society has reached the point where a lot of interactions are pre-cooked to manipulate a specific outcome. And the people doing the pre-cooking don't even realise that their behaviour is manipulative.

This is one of the reasons it's dangerous to talk about RP. Few people appreciate being told that they're displaying classic manipulative traits.

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