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What I’ve learn from approaching over 100 women (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Auxfite

Past 3 months I’ve probably approached around 100-150 girls

Things I’ve learned:

  1. About 50-75% of them are in a relationship or married. In my experience It’s almost impossible to run into a hb8-10 that isnt in a relationship/married or has a shit ton of beta orbiters

  2. Women do not cheat as much as trp say they do. A lot of women gave me huge iois but still stay loyal and never caved in (I don’t mess with married women I just shit test them)

  3. iois mean EVERYTHING. If she’s not giving eye contact, turns her back, not engaging in talking back to you, walks away, doesn’t smile SHES NOT INTERESTED 95% of the time. Body language is everything.

  4. Average women shit test more than hot women. This is because insecurities. They get approach a lot more so to pick their candidates you gotta pass the test. These women tend to be the girls who always wear make up.

  5. Women over 30 are no longer looking for just sex like younger women. They’re looking for someone to provide for her and her kids. If you don’t have money they won’t bother with you. She’s had her fair share of alphas and just wants to deal with beta bux.

  6. Frame is everything. When you’re confident and not showing any body language of nervousness or shyness a women will sense this and automatically assume you have high SMV. This is something you can’t fake because a women will know.

  7. Never flirt or try to game women when there’s strangers watching/nearby. They don’t want to be seen as a slut so they will distance themselves to avoid embarrassment of being judged. Don’t believe me? Go do it and watch her body language.

  8. Law of attraction is real. I noticed out of the girls who gave me their Snapchat/number the ones who i ended up with shared almost the same interest as me.

  9. More testosterone = more bitches. To cut this short lift 5-6x days a week. Testosterone is what turns you to a boy to a man. Rejection is nothing approaching women builds confidence and character.

  10. Women with tattoos were the easiest to approach. No brainer? Women with tattoos tend to be more masculine and have stronger frame than the ones without them and they are always the slutty ones with high n count. Majority of them were damaged goods. Of course they were the majority of the ones who I ended up messing with (easy)

  11. Location is everything. My success rate in Vegas was like 9/10 because women know when they travel no one will know they will be sluts. But back home it is 1/10.


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[–]NikolaGeorgiev 125 points126 points  (4 children)

So you learned that you could be a winner.

[–]TFWnoLTR 40 points41 points  (0 children)

What you really learned is that you still have lots of work to do.

[–]Madcuz 20 points21 points  (2 children)

that takes balls. especially if you see yourself as a loser. Kudos to you, balls-loser

[–]Thynome 6 points7 points  (1 child)

balls-loser would make a great username.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

...if you’re Lance Armstrong maybe

[–]Menchstick 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The fact you did approach 100 woman and are not ashamed of your failures proves that you'll succeed sooner or later.

[–]stylesm11 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fuck that you have massive balls, I've only approached maybe 20 since when i hit rejection it lowers my ambition to do it like a bitch

[–]Africa4days 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah bro you ain’t a loser if you’re working everyday to better yourself. Where are you approaching these woman at if I may ask? If it’s the bar that can explain the bad encounters. The bar is one of the hardest pulls, because girls are at their peak ego and can almost choose whatever guy they want in there. Just need to practice, and eventually it becomes real and you really won’t give a fuck. Keep working at it brother you’ll make it.

[–]BewareTheOldMan 88 points89 points  (4 children)

These are pretty good observations based on your "social experiment." Frame, Laws of Attraction, body language, and sluts with tattoos are easy lays and emotionally damaged.

It's nice to know there are women of character and integrity who understand loyalty, fidelity, and respect for their SO.

Regarding 30+ year old women looking for Beta-Providers versus simply looking for sex...don't be the Beta-Provider Chump.

[–]Kirbyedgat 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Well, to be fair we don't know how good this guys game is. Sure they're loyal to their man for this guy but for a chance at chad?

[–]BewareTheOldMan 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I suspect he's moderately attractive, but definitely not a low-value, hideous-looking hunchback.

You're right though - if he had the "Chad Factor," he would have garnered many more positive hits...whether a woman is married or has a boyfriend. When you include the Chad Factor, I estimate an approximate 80 percent or so f-closes based on that alone.

[–]Auxfite[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Stated a lot that I don’t try to get at married women or hoes in relationship

[–]BewareTheOldMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK - tracking all. It's good you steer clear of married women/women in committed relationships. Even Betas get crazy when his supposed woman steps out on their relationship.

Question - what's an estimate on the percent (of women) who still try to get at you anyway - even though you refuse to be a participant in their infidelity?

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (8 children)

Im 31 and in college with a steady stream of available 21-23 ish year olds so that has been my forte for the past few months. the real key fundamental difference is they are... not naive... that is not the right word. but they are more optimistic about men. I still treat them like gentlemen and tell them pretty upfront about not wanting a serious relationship. but they also tend to be much more insecure, clingy, and want to do stupid shit i have no interest in (apple bees half price apps. gross). While women over 30 can go either way. they are either super confident, or just damaged goods and extremely pessimistic. its not that they are not into sex, in fact they tend to be even more so, and much more skilled, they are just more selective and patient about who they take home. ive smashed plenty of women in that age range too even before i was in my 30s. they are just attracted to slightly different things, but overall its still the same operating system.

[–]swampbastard69 31 points32 points  (0 children)

in regards to the 'same operating system'. This is the issue with mid-30's girls. When I date a girl that is 26, she might not have as much stuff to talk about as a 36 year old - but its not that different. A 36 year old woman is about 20% more interesting and engaging than a 26 year old woman - and that is only if shes not jaded. A 36 year old man should be 500% more interesting than his 26 year old self.

[–]BumblingBeta 1 point2 points  (6 children)

"they are just attracted to slightly different things, but overall its still the same operating system."

what different things are they attracted to?

[–]Frich3 1 point2 points  (2 children)

younger women = facial asthetics, status, etc.

older women = money, obedience, etc.

[–]BumblingBeta 0 points1 point  (1 child)

money makes you a beta bux, surely? don't older women want a hot guy anymore?

[–]Frich3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah but by that age theyve already had all that... now they want to secure a future for themselves and their children. gotta wisen up if they wanna live a couple life.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

with age? money, social status, overall provider qualities. i suppose younger girls are attracted to that also, but they are willing to put up with more bullshit

[–]BumblingBeta 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i thought red pill taught men NOT to be beta bux. now you're saying you need money and good provider qualities. sounds like a classic beta bux if you ask me.

of course, earning more money is always great, but only do it for yourself and any kids you have. NEVER for women.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

we are overall talking about what they are attracted to, not what you should give them

[–]1Imperator_Red 29 points30 points  (5 children)

In my experience It’s almost impossible to run into a hb8-10 that isnt in a relationship/married

1 Hot

2 Single

3 Sane

Pick two.

[–]Irrationallyconfid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Depends what age you are going for, 30+ this is definitely the case but around my area early 20's girls are single and ready to meet guys

[–]Auxfite[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

This is so sad but 100% true. I wonder why it’s this way

[–]markinsinz7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Girls cannot handle being alone. It's like death to them. Very few are truly ever single. When girls day they r single it means they got 1-3 fuck buddies usually or their 1 fwb is not escalating to exclusivity.

That's just how the game is. Fuck getting harder n harder as time goes by.

[–]PreMinister90 66 points67 points  (17 children)

I think that the woman above 30 are even more in to sex then before. Cause they have much experience and arent that prudish like the young ones. If no one is looking you can touch most of them anywhere in my experience.

[–]Yupuhhuh69 23 points24 points  (6 children)

I think that the woman above 30 are even more in to sex then before

This. Women over 30 subconsciously know they are hitting the wall and their hormones biologically begin to go into overdrive to get pregnant because they've been busy riding the cock carousel for the past 10 years, come to the realization that they are just a hole and that menopause is just around the corner. Emotional train wrecks to say the least. The women Ive met between 32-45 are some of the biggest sluts I know who crave semen and say they are hornier than a 16 teenage boy....

[–]NikolaGeorgiev 21 points22 points  (3 children)

and say they are hornier than a 16 teenage boy....

Good comparison, but untrue. Nobody is hornier than a 16yo teeenage boy. :D

[–]bostezo22 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Have you met any of those sluts?

[–]BumblingBeta 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You don't need to meet any sluts to know they are not hornier than the average man, let alone a teenage boy with raging testosterone. Men have something like 7 to 8 times more testosterone than women on average, and produce 20 times more testosterone on a daily basis.

So any woman claiming to be more horny than men is chatting complete bullshit.

[–]BumblingBeta 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Menopause is just around the corner"

Dude, menopause doesn't happen till early-mid fifties. They've got 20 years left, lmao. If that's what you call just around the corner, then just lol

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    [–]Marino4K 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I’d say women in their 30s are definitely more horny than women in their 20s but not more than any guy in his prime.

    [–]BumblingBeta 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Still no where near as horny as the average man though, even at their sexual peak.

    [–]Ramp_Up_Then_Dump 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I can sense accusations, lots of them.

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Forget what you THINK.... what is your EXPERIENCE (if any) ?

    [–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 29 points30 points  (1 child)

    About 50-75% of them are in a relationship or married.

    Bare in mind this is the most common excuse in the book, don't take it as gospel.

    Women do not cheat as much as trp say they do.

    Not with random men approaching them, but more circumstantial, and mostly with men higher value than their current. I.e Drunk at a party, colleague at work etc.

    Average women shit test more than hot women.

    This is because the hotter women are not even considering you. Often they're friendly because most guys are so intimidated by them. If she's interested she's shit testing , which is why average women will test you more.

    Women with tattoos were the easiest to approach

    They love the attention/validation, it's what the tattoos are for in the first place. "Hey, look at me". If they're not too worried about what they put on their body, they're not too worried about what they put in their body.

    [–]Xhaka-Laca 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Classic line about on their body and in their body.

    [–]RedDeathClock 19 points20 points  (11 children)

    What are your background and stats?

    Where did you approach them?......logistics.

    [–][deleted]  (8 children)

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      [–]MotiMorphosys 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      This is a very important piece of information that should have been included in the original post, mainly the fact that you approach most of them in shopping situations, particularly grocery stores.

      This explains the "most of them were in relationships" observation. To me, the more committed of relationship a woman is in, the more likely she is going to be to be found in a grocery store. Single women are typically going to be going out at night weather on dates or parties Etc. married our relationship women are going to be way more likely to be cooking for their significant other.

      also, most of pickup game is done in close proximity to lots of other people at clubs and bars. But since everyone is there for pretty much the same reason, way less judging happens than in a supermarket. This explains why OP observed reluctance when other people were around.

      And now for the cheating part. no, the red pill does not say how much women cheat, the red pill basically says that all women have the capacity to cheat in certain circumstances. The type of women who never cheat get there mainly by never putting themselves in those kinds of circumstances. I don't care how good of Chad thundercock frame you have, very few if any women are going to agree to cheat on their significant other well meeting someone in a supermarket. Now, flip that around.. same girl... after she's had a few drinks out with her girlfriends after she got in a fight with her significant other... You see why circumstances matter? Your approaches are filtering for harder circumstances. Nice going. Practicing in hard mode is never bad. But understand how those circumstances are affecting your results.

      [–]markinsinz7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      So what's the most effective for cold approach if all the women in the malls and rhe grocery stores are too busy with bf. Also great response - in addition status itself matters too.

      U get her number n u text her n try to arrange - nada. Exchange fb and she sees ur hot shitt there we go...

      [–]NTR_MNK 11 points12 points  (3 children)

      What’s your approach? For me outside of social places like clubs it gets kind of awkward to just approach a random girl. I’m new so I hope you don’t mind explaining.

      [–]BusterVadge 13 points14 points  (2 children)

      Pick up a copy of Day Bang by roosh. The advice in that book works great. I do mostly day game now that I'm older.

      [–]RyanFire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      thats something i would be interested in as well lol thanks

      [–]leviathan51 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Include the location in the original post. Many of the points are very culture-specific.

      [–]SimilarHamster 14 points15 points  (1 child)

      I agree more details, please.... for science

      [–]Ramp_Up_Then_Dump 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      For continuation of humanity actually.

      [–]319Skew 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      I disagree with point 2. Right guy, right time, right place.

      Don't get me wrong, not every woman will cheat but the odds are that they will or leave you.

      There's no magic template but you point to me that beautiful virgin that's saving it for marriage because Jesus and there's a guy that will get in there.

      It'll start with a kiss. That felt nice. Let me kiss you some other places. That felt really nice. Let's use our hands. That felt amazing. You are amazing. I love your mouth. It's still not sex. How can this be wrong? I want you and no one else. Just the tip. You make me crazy. You are amazing. Let me be inside. Just a second. Oh my God. Let's just go for a bit longer. I'm inside you. This is insane. You are the best.

      You get the idea.

      Or she's having a fight with (guy) and you are just the bad boy distraction. One thing leads to another and she's sucking you off in your car. Next week they patched things up.

      Maybe I'm just getting jaded or maybe I keep running into low integrity women but I don't trust a woman to keep her word like a guy.

      They are too emotional.

      Not that long ago I was fucking a red head in her kitchen table while her (now ex husband) was texting her back about how much he'll change to be with her.

      It's surreal especially since I'm just recently divorced and get annoyed at my ex wife's attempts to covertly hide her going on the CC.

      That same ex wife was the delicate wall flower that never so much kissed a guy because Jesus.

      I love and hate this crazy world sometimes.

      [–]NikolaGeorgiev 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      1. Even if it's true, you gotta remember that a monkey will let loose of a liana only AFTER it catches the next one.

      2. Depends on country/region/your SMV. It's never worth the hassle to do it though.

      3. Yep.

      4. Yep. And in my experience, it wasn't like that 10 years ago.

      5. That's not correct. She's looking for both AF, and BB. Don't ask me how I know it.

      6. 100% true.

      7. Their ASD is working almost constantly. Exceptions are rare and depend highly on your SMV (compared to hers).

      8. I rarely see women with the same interests as me, so I can't comment on this one.

      9. True in most cases.

      10. Tattoos are so trendy and popular right now, that I can't even judge on it anymore. Almost all 7's and above, between 16 and 26 have tattoos.

      11. This is related to 7.

      [–]PepinoSF 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      1. There is a huge difference between shy tatoo on the arm and semiface/sleeve zombie painting plus piersing on nasal septum/tongue

      [–]anvorob 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      1. So approaching in the bus/train is instant fail?

      2. Are you talking about manifesting thing as people do at LOA or just saying that we attract same people, so you gotta change yourself first.

      [–]SKRedPill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E19HTClK5Hw

      This is a funny video (albeit very blue pill in some places) about how love changes in the 30s - but the key takeaway is this - observe that nearly all the changes are due to the woman. Men don't nearly change as much as far as their needs or emotions go, but it's just that they need the woman not only to be a lover, but also a first mate and a mother. Changing life situations don't change men's emotions to their woman nearly as much, because inherently their own needs are quite less.

      Oh and do watch out for the CC woman - chances are, they're become more numb, or alpha widowed, or both. Once a dopamine drip, always a dopamine drip. Somewhere it's a clash between the sexual experiences of her youth and her need to get pregnant -- but once past a certain age, her attraction isn't purely sexual as it used to be.

      [–]theonewhothro123 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Weird seems like there are a lot of guys in this thread who almost have there identity wrapped in the fact they think all women are cheaters, studies show approximately only 15 percent of women cheat, even if you assume the studies are horribly flawed and double that number 70 percent of women still aren't cheaters.(the vast majority)

      Most guys here are picking up women where less loyal women are likely to be looking to cheat i.e. clubs,bar,tinder and have a biased sample. Branch swinging or having a backup boyfriend is common though, especially when she thinks she is going to end the relationship soon she will be looking for potential suitors before breaking up.

      [–]sorry_mommy 32 points33 points  (14 children)

      (2. You just don't have game good enough to pull them away from their superior SO's. Most absolutely are willing to jump ship for an alpha with really good game, I have seen this first and second hand multiple times.

      (7. They're just reflecting YOUR own insecurities approaching in a high pressure situation. If you are nervous, she will seem nervous. If you are cool and confident despite the crush of strangers watching, she will seem perfectly receptive.

      (10. Why are you attracted to masculine women?...

      [–]Auxfite[S] 42 points43 points  (12 children)

      1. (I don’t mess with married women I just shit test them) Once a women tells me she’s married or has a boyfriend it turns me off. I already lived that lifestyle when I was younger you get nothing but drama from that.

      2. Not at all. I’m a very social guy I don’t feel nervous talking to a women but as I mentioned body language.

      3. They are attracted to me because I’m masculine. Women with tattoos are a huge turn off to me. Automatically see an alpha widow when I see a girl with tattoos.

      [–]FocusOnYourGoals 40 points41 points  (7 children)

      The question is why you're even asking them if they're single. NEVER ask if they're single. Just assume they are. If they make sure to mention it it is 95% of the times because your game sucks at that moment and she wants you to bounce.

      The majority of women I've banged, I found out later had boyfriends at the time. They never told me. Tingles don't care about that. Women are always on the lookout for branch swings. As OP said, if you demonstrate you're higher value than whatever she's got she'll want you.

      [–]Auxfite[S] 16 points17 points  (5 children)

      I don’t ask them all the time. When i ask for their number or Snapchat they say they sorry I have a boyfriend. And yes I do answer the shit test with “I have a girlfriend as well” and they laugh/ hug me and say sorry but I made their day. I don’t know why trp promotes that women always cheat. Also I live in a city with more men than women so it’s believable

      [–]g0dfather93 33 points34 points  (4 children)

      I don’t know why trp promotes that women always cheat

      TRP likes to demean women quite a bit (as I understand it makes the "game" easier when you view yourself as the player and them as NPCs) and generating the collective narrative that they're cheating sluts helps bolster the belief that women are just vaginas that are waiting to be opened, provided you're man enough. In a majority of cases, it's true too. I wont deny that at all. If you are rich, hot, confident and suave enough, women will drop their panties and drool for your cock, and that's a fact. If you're better than the average Joe, not fat, have good hair and a pair of neat shoes, and don't utter some massive beta shit, your chances of getting her to cheat, if she's even superficially interested in you, are better than a coin toss.

      My quip comes in with the fact that men are no different. If a man has a chance at dicking a new pussy, squeezing a new, firmer ass than the one he's got back home, very high chances are that he'll take the chance. If the woman is smart, hot, flirty, naughty enough, men too will drain their nuts for her, take her out and entertain her - and that's a fact too. If she's better than the average Jane, not fat, has good hair, an outfit that doesn't scream "prude" and doesn't come off as crazy clingy, her chances of getting a man to cheat, are better than a coin toss.

      Nature is sort of balanced that way. And you know what, I am not judging either of them.

      Society is after all, a ladder. A ladder everyone wants to climb. It's tough to beat that lizard brain and consciously act against that desire even if one has a very comfortable, satisfying spot on it - it's not the top spot, but it's the most comfortable, relaxing spot that feels like home. And very few who are worthy are able to enjoy it. It takes a certain level of control and next level of self-awareness to appreciate something good going on in your life, be genuinely satisfied with it and not follow the surge of blood in your cock/pussy.

      Long story short, I just wanted to say that mean cheat too. A lot. And while TRP misses no chance to highlight, mock and take advantage of female infidelity (as it should), it has a vastly differing manner of portraying male infidelity. And that's bullshit.

      [–]DaveyOneBite 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Yeah all of the above.

      The reason it looks like men don't cheat as much is not because they have morals, it is due to a lack of opportunity. Men have so many factors that go into a high SMV. Women have one. Most guys don't comprehend this. Any 6+ woman has an army of orbiters and next in line guys and guys hitting on her at all times.

      The only male equivalents to that kind of sexual value and opportunity are hollywood actors and professional athletes. Both these groups of guys happen to cheat a lot or never get tied down. Hmm.

      [–]RedHeimdall 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      TRP ... has a vastly differing manner of portraying male infidelity. And that's bullshit.

      No, it's entirely appropriate.

      If a male cheats on a female what does she lose? Basically she might lose access to some of his resources if he knocks up someone else and diverts some of his resources that way. Not great but not the end of the world.

      If a female cheats on a male, he can lose the most important thing in life from a biological perspective -- reproduction, passing on his genes. Making him a cuck means the end of his line. The negative consequences of female infidelity are far greater.

      [–]Nubenebbiosa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Long story short, I just wanted to say that mean cheat too. A lot. And while TRP misses no chance to highlight, mock and take advantage of female infidelity (as it should), it has a vastly differing manner of portraying male infidelity. And that's bullshit.

      Very true, thanks for bringing this up, it never gets talked about.

      [–]EvanPetersDouble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Was thinking about all that.

      [–]erthian 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Exactly. How guys can take the boyfriend as anything other than a deflection I'll never understand. 'respecting' her boyfriend is some hard beta shit.

      [–]erthian 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      Literally every girl will say they have a boyfriend lol. It's a bitch shield. True or not, she won't mention it if she's into you.

      [–]Auxfite[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      This is somewhat true. They usually mention it after they give me their Snapchat or number. Then delete/block me after i don’t reply back lol

      [–]BumblingBeta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      If a woman tells you she's married or has a bf, that's a clear sign she's not interested.

      [–]stylesm11 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Where do you go to game this many while keeping them isolated?

      [–]MotiMorphosys 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Number 11 is the most important by far. circumstances determine 90% of the interaction.

      I realize now why all of those infield videos from RSD and the like are at destination cities. "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" has a lot of truth here. Girls want to fuck, but they don't want to be seen as slutty. Therefore, when they're on vacation, they can throw all of their worries about being seen as slutty out the window. But if you approach a girl in her hometown, and you're from that town, she has a whole lot of potential problems ahead if she decides to fuck you. She's gonna vet you and try for the commitment 90% of the time.

      I had been having very poor success going out in my hometown... And then I went to Costa Rica. I was at a destination Resort that had its own little night club. First night, girl approached me, 45 minutes later we were back at my room, no LMR at all. We fucked every night I was there. Never in a million years would she do that in her hometown.

      WhenInRome

      [–]JamesGoody 1 point2 points  (7 children)

      I dont think 50-75% are married or in a relationship, just because they told you so.

      I dont think women are less cheating than they say they do, just because you talked with a few strangers - they do it more.

      Approaching women is a little weapon like a knife in your arsenal, but far away from the samurai sword.

      why?

      approaching women will without any doubt always be a needy behaviour.

      A king in his throne will never run after little girls and give away his power.

      Keep having fun brother.

      Peace.

      James G.

      [–]1predator 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      Approaching women is not needy behaviour unless you take their respond serious.

      [–]JamesGoody -1 points0 points  (4 children)

      It certainly is a needy behaviour, no matter what. the positioning and power-dynamic is lost, no matter what.

      theres nothing to talk about.

      do you think a king has to get out of his throne?

      peace.

      [–]1predator 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Sorry but not a good example. Society dynamics way more complicated. For me it is 2 people interacting each other sharing something and you are the one who initialize it. Thats respectful. For some women it is a very confident behaviour and this confidence shows that you have power. For some others it is needy as you said.

      What is truly important is how you feel about it. Do you feel like lonely shit when you are doing it then dont do it. Do your feelings change only positive direction then do it when you want.

      I know what we discuss is not that important. But when your mind think something like "this is the truth there is nothing more I should consider/discuss about this." You are in trouble my friend.

      [–]JamesGoody 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Yo brotha.

      important?

      No. Nothing is really important.

      I think its just a tool in in the arsenal - its like coming with a knife to a gunfight. (yes you can steal this great methapor in the future)

      What truly important is that you have power over yourself. power means control of yourself and your path - you just dominate your shit, right?

      btw. back to your respectful behaviour...

      If you start a conversation with a person they reject you. You want something from the person, ok. I didt´n say need ;-) the other person has the power.

      And of course you want to share how fucking awesome you are and just having fun and if they reject you they just missed your awesomeness, right?

      But if another person is starting a conversation with you, you could reject them or talk with them, because they want something from you. You can choose you have the power.

      back to power over your great path.

      you just dominate yourself and your life and living your true core.

      you have this glimmer in the eyes, because most people around have already giving up and dont know what the hell they want to do and who they really are.

      you stand out and women can sense it.

      and by going your path you attract the women on the way. on the stairway to heaven.

      you have fucking cool friends, who like who you really are, because if you live your true self a lot of people will not like you.

      but you attract the right ones for you.

      and of course you have a lot of girls there too. they will bring more girls. you dont have to approach any of them.

      at the end it is playing the long game.

      and of course i approach once in a while a women, but really rare and just because it is these moments where it happens naturally.

      because i rather go my path. there is an abundance in women. everywhere.

      you just kaizen your way and get better at your mission. and every fucking girl can sense that you just have something about you.

      this is the core of dominance. dominance means like power not really power over others. it means power over yourself and dominance over yourself.

      also i think one of the best tools is just making friends. fuck approaching girls.

      you make cool friends, they will simply introduce you to cool girls.

      because cool girls or cool guys have cool girls as friends. simpel.

      and then you will not have to go against thousands of years of evolution. she wants to know if your save. you are the stranger. you could harm her. you could rape her.

      if a friend of hers introduces you both than you are safe, because if the friend does think your cool then she knows your cool. you bypass her evolution - this is the gunshot on a knife fight. (yes you can steal this line too,lol)

      Ok i want to eat pancakes now. im hungry.

      peace.

      im OUT.

      James

      [–]JamesGoody 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      If you start a conversation with a person they CAN reject you. You want something from the person, ok. I didt´n say need ;-) the other person has the power.

      i forgot to type the words - they CAN reject you.

      peace.

      [–]1predator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Tnx for your reply. I only steal from holy books bro :) Have a good life.

      [–]cantFindValidNam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Women do not cheat as much as trp say they do.

      They all cheat... with the right guy.

      [–]kynikos997 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      I don't know man. Ever since I turned 18 I got more attention from older women. Even now as I am approaching 30 I get more older women flirting with me. I am talking 40-50 year old women. Most of them are in shape for their age which I find incredibly sexy. Always wondered why I never got any attention from younger women. I don't mind it though. I prefer older women, they are more stimulating.

      [–]Auxfite[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      A lot of girls who gave me their number were older women. IMO they’re the easiest. I just never got the lucky provider suga momma type. I’m too embarrassed to be seen in public with an old hag. So they are just one nighters for me.

      [–]kynikos997 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Not if they look like Christina Applegate at 42 and are in good shape. Meet her at LAX, my first time visiting LA. She was very friendly.

      [–]the_pill_is_free 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Heuristics has no substitute.

      Great work.

      [–]Dark_Lord_A 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I don't think anyone is going to say it, so I will. I think a lot of people on here are relieved at #2. XD

      [–]dizaster213 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      "Average women shit test more than hot women. This is because insecurities. They get approach a lot more so to pick their candidates you gotta pass the test. These women tend to be the girls who always wear make up."

      This is why one should only hit on the hot ones.
      Also, with no.5, I've found it easier to hit up older women for sex because they have less hangups about it.

      Great write up, btw.

      [–]Xhaka-Laca 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Good write up, straight to the point. I agree with every single point. Biggest being: watch out for IOIs.

      [–]masterwayne420 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      100 women is a fairly small sample size when it comes to making generalizations about the entire gender. You make some good points but some aren't so good. #1 & #7 will get you nowhere.

      [–]2comment 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      That many people is fairly good sample size, but is somewhat limited by the culture and population and economic level OP is in for all the generalizations. Still, if he expands that out to 500 or even 1000, but sticks in the same area and time, his results are not likely to be too different.

      It's kinda like selecting random cars on the same stretch of highway every day. After 100 selections, typical models and rates of exceptions seen will be fairly predictable, but results will differ a lot if it's West Virginia, or Beverly Hills, or US vs some autobahn in Germany, vs Japan vs North Korea. I.e. I'm gonna see plenty of pickups in the USA, but they'll be the big exception elsewhere, and Opels will be common in Europe but rare to nonexistent in the rest.

      [–]no_face 13 points14 points  (25 children)

      > lift 5-6x days a week

      Fast lane to injury unless you are lifting light

      [–]FocusOnYourGoals 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      Hmm no, PPL and PHAT routines do just that.

      [–]okuli 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I've been on PPL (6 times per week), now on PHAT (5 times per week) for almost a year now. I lift as hard as I can to progress, definitely not "lifting light". So far no injuries.

      [–]SalporinRP 29 points30 points  (2 children)

      Don't talk about things you're ignorant of. You can easily lift 5-6 days a week without injuring yourself.

      [–]SteroidsFreak 14 points15 points  (1 child)

      You can lift everyday as long as you're hitting different muscle groups. Lifting does not equal confidence. Maybe for a little bit but if you're relyin on external validation, that shit goes away real quick if let's say you don't lift for a day or 2 and start judging yourself. Internal validation is what will boost your confidence permanently. Lifting is the icing on the cake

      [–]SalporinRP 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I'd personally advise at 1 day of rest a week. I'm doing a different program this year but in past years I would work out Monday-Saturday, so 6 days of lifting and hit each muscle group twice a week.

      [–]Truedemocracy4 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Lol what? That's a core muscle group 2x a week. Light my ass

      [–]TheStoicCrane 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      For aesthetics 5xs is more than manageable using pyrimad training. For pure strength training, HELL NO! 3 the most is best.

      [–]Auxfite[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      I only lift heavy couple times a month to see new goals. Always light for long term health . PPL

      [–]Quaternionz 7 points8 points  (5 children)

      Yep, this. I went too heavy on 5x5 when I was first starting. Fucked up my knees with bad squat form. Fucked up my right bicep from benching too heavy too often, in combination with skull crushers. You feel powerful when you start getting to the heavy weights, but you really have to have perfect form and take your rest days seriously, or you will definitely hurt yourself.

      Heavy is probably fine if you have a trainer or experienced workout buddy with you on a regular basis. But if you're just winging it based on internet information and form check videos you'll probably fuck something up. There's just too much complexity to lifting not to fuck something up. So yeah, be under the regular supervision of a pro, or take it slow for your own safety.

      [–]SalporinRP 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      Like you said, that's a form problem rather than an overworking problem.

      I've bulked from September-February for the last 3-4 years lifting 6 days a week and have never had a lifting injury besides a bruised hand after getting it caught in a machine.

      [–]Quaternionz 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      That's impressive. The squats were indeed a form problem for me, but the bicep injury was an overworking problem. I was doing skull crushers every workout to get my bench weight up, and benching increasingly heavy. I usually bench every other workout (so every four days). One week I decided to bench two workouts in a row, and that injured my bicep. It was already tired from the regular skull crushers and the very recent heavy bench the workout prior.

      [–]SalporinRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yeah I mean when I say 6 days a week I don't literally mean every week during those months. There would be some stretches (maybe once every 8 weeks) where I had to take a few days in a row off from lifting heavy.

      Also yeah you benched 2 days in a row. If you had kept a normal lifting schedule you probably would have been fine.

      I'm currently trying something different this year: Layne Norton's PHAT program which is 2 "power" days Monday and Tuesday, rest day Wednesday, 3 hypertrophy days in a row, then a rest sunday.

      Been doing it for a little over a month and I feel fine.

      [–]Theguygotgame777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I do heavy 5x3 every other day most often. I never do twice in a row, because I'm getting into the mid-100s range and I myself weigh about 145 pounds.

      [–]MarcosDomingues 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      You don't have to pay for anyone to supervise you. Just record yourself doing the basic lifts and send it to the SS forums. They do it for free as long as you become a verified user.

      [–]Shady-mofo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This is proof trp has turned to shit

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      [–]MarcosDomingues 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      They think you're just messing with them

      [–]Nubenebbiosa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      More testosterone = more bitches. To cut this short lift 5-6x days a week

      Are you a bodybuilder? Why spend 5-6 days a week in a gym?

      [–]swampbastard69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I dont agree with all of this (especially not flirting when there are strangers nearby - when do you expect to do it?) but I do agree that women do not cheat as much as this board would want you to think. I think people here exaggerate to drill into men's minds not to be surprised/devastated when they do cheat - but its not that common. Most women is scared of getting caught cheating because it can destroy her reputation within her social circle.

      I also agree about IOI's - and they are not talked about enough on here. I am lucky enough where I get a decent amount of them - more now in my 30's than in my 20's which is weird - If a woman gives you an IOI she has decided subconciously in a millisecond that she will entertain fucking you. Its up to you to not screw it up at that point, she may have a boyfriend but again its up to you to not screw it up.

      [–]xMB99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      More than half the girls I used to know in school all have babies now. That's my observation.

      [–]BumblingBeta 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      "Women over 30 are no longer looking for just sex like younger women"

      Damn, is this really true? I'm 27 myself and feel like I wasted so many potential years of sex during my late teens/early to mid twenties because I never had the courage to approach women and just put myself into social situations where I could meet women.

      I can still pull off looking like I'm 18-22, because I look quite young for my age, but finding younger women now is infinitely tougher since I left university.

      I want to fuck lots of women and make up for all those years I didn't get enough sex, but not sure how.

      What would you recommend in my situation?

      [–]AnyDoughnut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I am almost 40 and I have done a lot of dating and plate spinning over the years. Most women in the 30s, at least ones who aren't married, are desperate to lock down a beta to help raise her spawn. Their main priority is finding a beta to latch onto.

      Getting laid isn't too difficult, but you have to change your game as you age. You're not going to get many Netflix and chills happening off the bat.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      1. Agree but should be noted not to rely on ioi's before approaching. In my experience if you wait for a girl to give you an ioi before approaching she's usually going to be a 7 or below, and some of the hottest girls I've gotten didn't even notice me before approaching.

      [–]auxiliary7 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Just saying but how do we know you look good enough for HB9-HB10 girls not to lie about their relationship to you to get rid of you ASAP.

      [–]Auxfite[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I just got out of a 1 year LTR with a hb9. She’s still hooked on me 6 months later

      [–]Irrationallyconfid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      What I've learnt is to only approach the ones giving you solid IOI, I don't approach much but when I do I am almost always successful because I approach the women I know want me too

      [–]DavidEagle68 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Can personally attest to #6 and #10. I am currently taking salsa and bachata lessons daily, and women have a tendency to sniff out the guys who are most unsure of themselves. Even if you are a shitty dancer, confidence tends to supersede this for the 2-3 minutes. And for #10, there was a 20 year old I hooked up with who thought she was the best thing since sliced bread, and on multiple occasions claims to have 2-3 guys as her best friends.

      [–]Zech4riah -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      Easy to agree.

      But I still want to sarcastically give you the basic TRP response because you questioned the consensus on the forum.

      "You aren't alpha enough, if you are alpha enough you can fuck every married woman."

      [–]Auxfite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+7,Psalm+35-39&version=NIV&interface=amp

      This is why I stopped messing with women in relationships/marriage.

      [–]AceMav21 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      Law of attraction is some retarded pseudoscience bs purported by self help gurus to promise the effectiveness of their self help bs.

      [–]HurricaneHugues -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      You're wrong about number 2. They didn't fuck YOU. It doesnt mean theyre not fucking someone else. You also said that you didn't try to fuck the married ones.

      [–]Auxfite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I didn’t try to fuck the ones in a relationship either. I don’t have nothing to prove to myself.

      [–]odin1111 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

      I stopped after reading #2

      Your SMV isnt high enough. Keep lifting.