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Red Pill ExampleLessons from a Rat (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by BadBoyProgrammer

Many years ago, when I was about 18 years old, I knew a guy. I refer to him as 'the rat' as this is an accurate description of both his looks and personality. Back then I was still trying to be a typical 'good boy', until 'the rat' showed me the flaws in my ways.

The rat was a short guy. He was ugly as well. His nose was crooked and too long for his face. His hair was greased and always unkempt. He owned two pair of clothes. His clothes had holes in them and barely got washed.

His room only had an old dirty mattress and a chair in it. He did not own these things. He borrowed them. His only possession was an old ashtray that he likely stole at some point in time. He was a thief and regularly stole stuff.

He did not have a job and when he on occasion got one he was fired within a week. He did not care and had no ambition whatsoever. He was always broke and the little money he got his hands on was spend on alcohol.

Most of the time ‘the rat’ smelled like piss and beer. He did not take many showers. He did not clean his bed sheets. He did not iron his shirts. He did not comb his hair.

The rat did not have much charisma. He was generally an unlikable person. He did not have any friends either.

At the time he was the perfect opposite of myself. I had a similar room and it was decorated with tasteful furniture. I had a whole dresser filled with brand name clothes. I ironed my shirts, combed my hair and took care of my shoes. I made sure to be polite, nice and friendly to people. I took showers. I had a good job and a wallet filled with money.

Almost every evening he did have a girl in his room. And every evening I did not have a girl in my room. I could hear him have fun with a whole bunch of girls while I did nothing but masturbate to my extensive porn collection.

One day I decided to figure out what I did wrong. How could a loser like him get this many girls, while I, as a decent guy, got none?

I made friends with him and asked to go out with him. I offered to pay for all his expenses and he happily agreed. And so we went out into the city.

When arriving at the first venue he was not allowed inside by the bouncer. I could go strait inside if desired, but he was not. Not weird considering I dressed in my best outfit and had well maintained shoes on my feet. My hair was combed. I looked like a ‘good boy’. He obviously looked like a homeless guy or perhaps a drug addict. Only at the thirth venue we visited he was allowed inside.

Once inside I walked strait to the bar trying to get the attention of the barkeeper. It took a little while for me to order two beers. And when I finally turned around with beers in my hands ‘the rat’ walked up to me and said; "This place is dead, lets go."

A little confused I looked around. Plenty of good looking girls in this venue. I could not understand why he would call this place "dead". I stared at the beer I just got for us and suggested to first drink the beers. He took one and swallows the beer away like only a proper alcoholic can do. It was gone within a seconds.

After leaving the venue and trying to get inside another I decided to not buy another beer. Good chance that he would decide to leave just after I bought more beers. That would be a waste of money. Instead I focused my attention on him.

What I then observed blew my mind.

When I went to a venue I always walked strait up to the bar to order a beer. Then I would stand and look around for someone to talk to. Hopefully a pretty girl. In most cases I had to drink a few beers just to get the courage to talk.

This is not what he did.

Once he entered a venue he walked immediately up to a girl and said to her: "Hey babe" or "Hi cutie". Most girls instantly rejected him. They made sounds like: "Eeewww" or "Ugghh". Most girls would roll their eyes.

His answer to these girls was one word: "slut" or "whore". Then he would move on to the next girl in his vicinity. It never took long before he had "talked" to all girls in the venue. And in most cases he only got "ewww's" or "ugh's".

However, once in a while a girl would react positive to him. She be drunk most likely. But that did not matter much. He made some jokes, whispered something in her ear, squished her ass and then a few minutes later they would leave the venue. He takes her home. Sometimes he took two girls home.

And this is why ‘the rat’ got laid while I did not. He approached girls. He approached a great many of girls. He did not have any special technique. He did not have any witty stories to tell or status to show off. Basically the only thing he did was saying "Hey babe", without any care in the world.

I did not. I barely approached a single girl. And if I did it was while being drunk. I would never say words like “Hey babe” or “Hey cutie” to a girl. I was told this is impolite behavior. I always tried to make a good impression. Always trying to show myself in the best light as possible. Trying to impress a girl with my career prospects, my good taste in home decoration or my fashion sense.

This guy, who I like to refer to as ‘the rat’, is a perfect example of what guys do wrong. You can be a complete loser, without any ambition, friends, money, hygiene, morals or status and still get plenty of girls in your bedroom.

You do not even have to comb your hair or take a shower. You do not even have to own a bed or your own sheets. It does not even have to be clean. All it takes is the balls and carelessness to approach a whole bunch of girls. One of them is stupid enough to have sex with you. She will likely be simple enough to enjoy it as well. She will come back for more.

Every time you are thinking about not looking good enough, or about not having good clothes, or about being without a job, just think about this ‘rat’. He was not a cool guy. He was not an alpha male. He was not a leader. He did have no status. He was not good looking.

His only possession was a stolen ashtray.


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[–]PreMinister90 221 points222 points  (33 children)

He literally looked for the right girl. A dad of a friend of me, said that a friend of him back in the day. Would go to a pub/club and he seriously aked to every girl that night if she wants to have sex. Every one blew him off, but there was always that would say yes on the spot. Crazy.

[–]thedaynos 109 points110 points  (2 children)

He literally looked for the right girl.

sounds like he just looked for any girl and then eventually one would turn up to be the "right" girl

[–]PreMinister90 39 points40 points  (0 children)

That's also what I was meaning

[–]orcscorper 33 points34 points  (0 children)

So he found the "right" girl. As the late Robin Williams said, "Miss Rght, or at least Miss Right Now."

[–]lookoutitscaleb 52 points53 points  (5 children)

This is cool and all, but imagine getting a reputation as the guy that did this.

In a small town like where I live this would be a very bad idea. You quickly become the thirsty guy or the creeper that preys on drunk girls.

If you use this approach probably go out of town. AKA don't shit where you eat.

Or just use this concept to apply to your own personal game of : don't give a shit, Approach, approach, approach.

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Not a bad idea to be more aggressive when out of town. Good chance you’ll never see those people again.

[–]lookoutitscaleb 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. It's open season.

Hotels are a plenty.

[–]NotMyBestEffort 3 points4 points  (2 children)

If your intention is to sleep with as many women as possible, this would not be a bad idea. In a small town you get a reputation as a guy who is easy to sleep with, gone tomorrow and doesn't remember - let alone slut shame.

[–]lookoutitscaleb 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hmmmm that's interesting.

From my experience when dealing with a group of women. If you sleep with the lowest in the pecking order, then the one at the top will never sleep with you.

Guess that's the difference between sleeping with as many women as possible and sleeping with quality women.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Building such a reputation is gold. Pre-selection is powerful stuff.

[–]grewapair 23 points24 points  (0 children)

My dad had a neighbor who did the same thing. Sometimes, 10s came home with him, sometimes 1s. Didn't matter to him, the guy literally just wanted to get laid every night.

First words were "come home with me." Sometimes he had to go to a couple of bars, and literally ask every girl in it, but someone said yes, every night.

[–]blacwidonsfw 43 points44 points  (17 children)

Depends on the venue. Maybe at a Rat approved establishment you can find chicks like this easy. But if you do they are probably not the ones you want to bang. At best you bang some chick who smells worse than the Rat. At worst you get stomped out by some dudes for harassing their girlfriends.

[–]midnight_metro 7 points8 points  (2 children)

True, but the point is if this loser rat can get at least a few girls every week to bang him despite being disgusting, guys here (who don't even approach women) would get laid exponentially more because they are more attractive than this guy.

[–]surfsusa 9 points10 points  (1 child)

One time I was talking to a guy who worked in Adult Book Store. He told me he couldn't understand why many of the guys who came in regularly couldn't get laid or have girlfriends. He said most of them are clean and decent looking and there were plenty of girls that would have them if the guys would just get up go outside and go up and talk to them instead of sitting at home watching pornos . Very basic numbers game. 0 tries = 0 success.

[–]TheStoicCrane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reason being they'd rather have 0 sucesses and feel good about themselves than risk the prospect of rejection.

[–]xcrazytx 10 points11 points  (13 children)

Ya this is accurate once a guy went up to my now ex and told her that he was going to fuck her or something. I cold clocked him and punched him on the bar floor. Turns out it was a bet from his friends but that's what happened

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer 48 points49 points  (4 children)

Terrible response. You should have not done that, I think the majority here will agree.

[–]someguyz 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What would be a good response to a situation like that?

[–]sorry_mommy 13 points14 points  (1 child)

If someone says that to your girl, you take a step back and quietly watch her response. If she responds positively to him, you next her on the spot. Simple.

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Hit it on the spot (no pun intended.)

Be amused, sit back. Let her coaching (or lack of) kick in.

If the man is aggressive, as in won’t go away or tries to kino or do anything physically., step in and say something along they lines of “that was funny while it lasted, enjoy your night” and grab your woman by the hand and at minimum turn your back to him. If the aggressor continues warm him and tell him to go away. Strike three? You strike him at that point.

Don’t make long term decisions based upon short term emotions. Punching and getting into a fight is a bad fucking idea 9.99/10 times. Avoid it. I fight, do BJJ, etc, and I avoid that shit at all costs. Not worth the risk and you look like a faggot for breaking frame.

Good response.

[–]Clempot 13 points14 points  (0 children)

How did he react? No brawls broke out? I don't fault you for doing it. He was stupid to do it while you were in earshot, bet or not.

[–]orcscorper 17 points18 points  (1 child)

He fucked her. Maybe not that night, but he fucked her.

[–]LeftHookTKD 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You face any charges?

[–]xcrazytx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No got outta there before any cops came

[–]RebbitGolb 2 points3 points  (1 child)

But what if he had just said Hey Babe?

[–]xcrazytx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't care, he aggressively stated that he was going to fuck her

[–]Highborn_Hellest 2 points3 points  (2 children)

dad literally told me this. He had a friend, who walked up to a chick, and said one word: sex? Guy always had some chick to fuck.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I have seen this work multiple times. Usually it is good looking guys. The kind of guys that almost makes one go gay for a bit. I knew one these guys. He was hot! Only thing he had to do was look at a girl. He looked at girl I be trying to "get". She looked at him, she looked at me, she looked at him again. She looked at me with disgust. She looked at him with desire. They walked away.

[–]Cmdrj-nice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn imagine winning the genetic lottery like thid

[–]dettXXL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reminds of this example about how to look at "rejection" from a different perspective:

Imagine there are 100 people in a club and one of them is given an envelope with 100k in it. To get it you have to walk up to people and ask them "Do you have what I'm looking for?" three times. Find the right one and it is yours. Would you try?

99 of them would look at you like you are retarded. One of them would make you richer.

99 of them just don't have what you're looking for.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 147 points148 points  (42 children)

While this story reads like exaggeration, I've known a similar guy. Looked similar than "rat" although taller.

Similar seduction tactic based on numbers. Got lucky with the odd hottie here and there, mostly happy to fuck anything that moved.

Female standards are not as high as they'd have us believe, especially given the immediacy of sex-right-now.

[–]3itiswr1tten 113 points114 points  (40 children)

I knew a dude with middling standards who did the equivalent of "nice shoes wanna fuck?" as his only move. He never went home alone and claimed the success rate was roughly 5%.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 49 points50 points  (15 children)

I believe that. It's like a crude version of Apocalypse opener.

[–]_Legendairy_ 14 points15 points  (12 children)

What’s the apocalypse opener?

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 31 points32 points  (4 children)

"See the white horse? The red horse comes next! And then, black horse and then pale horse. My place or yours?"

[–]yunza55 15 points16 points  (0 children)

When arriving at the first venue he was not allowed inside by the bouncer. I could go strait inside if desired, but he was not. Not weird considering I dressed in my best outfit and had well maintained shoes on my feet. My hair was combed. I looked like a ‘good boy’. He obviously looked like a homeless guy or perhaps a drug addict. Only at the thirth venue we visited he was allowed inside.

Once inside I walked strait to the bar trying to get the attention of the

I thought it was more like

Guy : "Hey what you up to later?"

Girl : "Not much/Going to my nana's house/Whatever"

Guy : "Want to come home with me?"

Girl : "Yes/No/Maybe take my number first"

I've used it in the past and it definitely polarises people and if you get rejected just move straight on with a "ok, have a good night" or whatever. Just dont act butt hurt when a girl rejects you

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer 3 points4 points  (2 children)

ELI5 please?

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 10 points11 points  (1 child)

A joke. There’s that part in the Bible that describes 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. The fun part of my post is about treating the word apocalypse explicitly and not hyperbolically.

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, knew it was a joke but did not understand it. Appreciate you explaining to us slow fuckers.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 14 points15 points  (6 children)

It goes a bit like this:

You: What is your name?

She: (whatever)

You: What you be doing?

She: (whatever)

You: Want to come home with me?

She: ...

Girls will usually look at you in eyes intently. Might look you up and down a bit as well. Might even make some comment. And you just have to stand there. Say absolutely nothing. Do not smile. Not joke. Nothing. Just look her in eyes and be serious as fuck about it.

One out of three things will happen:

She either gives you a "No". You just respond with "Ok" and walk away. No big deal. Or she might give you a "Yes". In this case you can just go home right away or whatever your logistics are. Or she gives a "Maybe". In this case you do the following:

  1. Go away to get a beer or something for few minutes.
  2. Come back later using normal calibrated indirect game.
  3. Speed up the isolation and escalation part.

[–]inittowinit777 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why is it suggested I go away for a few minutes if she says maybe? What's the difference versus jumping straight into steps 2 and 3?

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you get a "maybe" she is, at some level, interested in the proposition. She needs a bit of time to think about it. By walking away you demonstrate that you are not needy or desperate and do not make a fuzz about the whole deal. This in itself can be enough to get a "yes" later on.

[–]Zech4riah 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This might actually work in the later part of the night when the girls are drunk and DTF. Ofc this would mean that the venue has options so you can keep spamming.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It is perfect late at night when clubs and bars are closing. There always be some stray girls. Girls that are only there because they want dick. You can literally pull girls within a minute. Obviously most girls are not of the highest of quality. But if you are there, at that time, you won't be quality either. You can do this outside as well.

[–]Zech4riah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I do this sometimes. If I'm not pulling from the "quality night clubs" until 3:00 (night clubs here close at 4:00), I usually go for "snipe pull" to a certain nighclub which always has these "stray girls". As you said the quality isn't that high but there is often a cute sevens or so which can be easily pulled.

But I never approach the thing this directly. I still game but I'm aggressively screening at the same and being really sexual right of the bat. If the club was bigger and I had more options, I could possibly going as direct as "the rat" does.

[–]Da_RectumWrecker 1 point2 points  (1 child)

God damnit I hated it when my wingman in college discovered the apocalypse opener. It was hilarious when he brought it up, but he made the two of us try it out that night (we liked to come up with little challenges to make game even more fun). We both had to try it 5 times. It was awkward as fuck and I remember the approach anxiety being so intense that I was sweating. I did my best to hide the nerves by concentrating on my body language. I got 3 of the sets I opened with the line to laugh and I didnt get blown out, but my wingman got a girl to go to the parking lot and fuck him in his car!

Our version of the apocalypse was something like "Hey my name is xxxx, want to come to my place and have some great sex?". It was fucking scary to use.

[–]Achilles_Of_Reddit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This made me bust out laughing. Thank you for that.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 29 points30 points  (21 children)

5% isn't actually that bad. Especially if he is used to approaching that many chicks.

[–]D4rkr4in 38 points39 points  (20 children)

just approach 20 girls in one night and you're laid

you'll be a douche but that's basically the point

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 21 points22 points  (19 children)

Yeah. It definitely sounds good in theory and back in my college days, I definitely approached a lot more and it got me laid. Probably looked creepy, but it works.

Problem in this current time is the #MeToo movement. I know guys who are actually decent looking guys who won't approach women as much due to this. It's crazy. I have found myself now at 27 years old not approaching as much in person as I used to.

Also, many women seem to be resorting to online dating where I have gotten some lays. The best are when they just come to your place or you go to their place.

[–]Pestilence1911 18 points19 points  (18 children)

25 and attractive.

I just use tinder to schedule them to come over, since becoming Chad most of them will tell me stories about their orbiters. Quite a diffrence from when they used to talk about chad after sex.

Its 2018. Ive gotten laid like a warlord all summer and didnt pay for any of it, perks of living next to an LRT (city train) thats connected to two universities.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Yeah, tinder/bumble are good for just inviting the chick over and I have gotten a good amount of sex from it. Maybe I will jump back on it, since I'm in a little bit of a dry spell. I do keep myself in fantastic shape at 27 and while I might not be the "chad" who can get every woman, I have had a good amount of success.

Not having to do the meeting up for drinks where it might be awkward is great, saves time and money. It's also funny when women give it up easy and ghost you after sex, even though they accuse guys of doing the same. I definitely want my own place as well. My roommates are cool, but I prefer more discretion.

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I feel both of you dudes as a 25 year old but hear me out: online dating yields unearned pussy. You are less likely to approach, develops real skills, or put yourself in front of rejection often. I’ve found a middle ground of just checking it once a month for pipeline.

[–]dumnem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tinder is an easy way to get laid, especially if you're photogenic or attractive. Women are so easy on there. That being said.. double wrap.

[–]paranoidinfidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

perks of living next to an LRT (city train) thats connected to two universities.

Sounds like you are taking advantage of 69th street station

[–]Dark_T100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sounds like philly

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 0 points1 point  (10 children)

LRT? sounds like toronto

[–]LosingMoneyAllDay 0 points1 point  (2 children)

"connects two universities". I'll go with Kitch/Waterloo

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True true. I was thinking york/u of t

[–]Pestilence1911 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Edmonton. Its 125ft from the LRT to my place, and theirs a timmies half way.

Its like the perfect setup, i do all my dates at that timmies, and escalation is a quick walk away

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Damn haha. Nice. Never been to alberta but it sounds like its mostly small town, not like vancouver or toronto. Does that make things harder?

[–]Pestilence1911 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Edmonton and calgary are alright.

Small towns are horrible pickings, even red deer doesnt have that many women above 7.

[–]dumnem 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I did that in my college years (when I was 19 or 20) and the first time experiencing being the 'chad' is a surreal experience. Suddenly you're the dude she bends over backwards in order to fuck and she tells you all the cruel and dumb shit she does to her orbiters. Such as hinting she's hungry and some beta male will order her a pizza. It was actually pretty good pizza. She had good taste.

[–]Pestilence1911 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I havent got an orbiter to get us pizza, but i had one poor bastard pick my old plate up and take her to dinner after i ravaged the poor girl, while getting snaps abouy how boring it is.

Youd think hed take the hint when he dropped her off right back at my place an hour later after hearing how im not a real man, a jerk, and she wishes she could find a real man like him.

Being a Chad is so much better. Thanks guys, its the little things like that that we can all laugh at that makes leg day worth it.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

5% might be a bit of an exaggeration...... good daygame players claim only around 3% success rate.

Conversely you can increase your odds (but not your numbers) if you go for the ones that stare at you first

[–]3itiswr1tten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This guy had no problem taking down an otherwise 4 outta 10 with a cute face or big butt...I believe him and saw it in action a few times. Not too crazy this would work after 20-25 tries once he started to get good with body language

[–]2awalt_cupcake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Female standards are not as high as they'd have us believe

If a girl rejects you, say to yourself

"2 girls 1 cup"

[–]jwarner95 50 points51 points  (15 children)

So all in all, approach and stop worrying about how people are gonna perceive you.

[–]nobias00 13 points14 points  (14 children)

thats if you are evolutionary closer to apes than humans. Only primal people actually behave like this, hence the story. There is value in it

but its literally how to be a semi-successful beta 101

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 12 points13 points  (8 children)

but its literally how to be a semi-successful beta 101

It is Alpha 101: "How to not give a fuck and still get laid."

[–]MadChestHairYuKnight 14 points15 points  (4 children)

I would disagree. If the rat was an alpha, 95% of women wouldn't turn him down.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Difference between Alpha and Beta is that Alpha's fuck because girls feel genuine desire. Beta's fuck because they negotiate for sex. "Alpha fux, Beta bux". And the 'Rat' had nothing to give. Nothing except for sex.

You can be homeless drug addict and still be alpha as fuck. You can be multi billionaire and be Beta as fuck (Zuckerberg).

[–]swiddie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/and he'd have a phone full of invitations, not having to go out getting new girls.

[–]bostezo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do they do with the PUAs? PUAs so beta?

[–]nobias00 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Not giving a fuck is different from asking every single person for their validation. That/s what it is. Beta just means 'second' as in 'not chosen'

like i said, he is still succesful (with women) but STILL a beta

[–]surely_not_a_robot_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you beg on the street in front of enough people, surely someone will toss you a coin. Are you now rich?

[–]jwarner95 3 points4 points  (4 children)

what the hell are you saying, obviously take a fucking shower but unhinge your spergness and look at the point of the story. Regardless of how you look it's always gonna be a numbers game, it just depends on whether it takes more or less numbers.

[–]themaindish444 101 points102 points  (0 children)

I had an apartment mate in college--literally the smelliest person I have ever met. His room literally smelled like a dumpster, it was disgusting. He once told me "if you have no fear of rejection you'll always end up getting a hit"

I can't say I admire the guy but he wound up doing fairly well considering the dumpster

[–]Fulltilt_Ronny 40 points41 points  (16 children)

How did the Girls he got with look? How did they smell? How was their personalitis? just curious :>

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 81 points82 points  (13 children)

Not the highest quality obviously. More than attractive enough to make me seriously reconsider my life choices and beliefs. I say about 5's, 6's and 7's.

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[–]PotatoWielder9001 23 points24 points  (5 children)

They WERE drunk lol. I doubt at that point they smelled much better themselves.

[–]D4rkr4in 28 points29 points  (4 children)

kind of dangerous to look like a rat and be banging chicks with the me too movement, one regretful chick and it's to the gulag

[–]Pestilence1911 19 points20 points  (3 children)

You mean you dont record audio and repeatedly ask them if they like it, while calling them dirty names,ect ect.

There is a reason saint Ghomeshi's conplaintents withdrew their accusations once he proved he recorded E V E R Y T H I N G.

[–]D4rkr4in 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've seen it discussed here, not legal in some states. Definitely thinking of setting it up in my bedroom somewhere, or perhaps it's possible to have amazon Alexa record it?

[–]bouncedeck 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It doesn't stop a lot of media people and others from calling him a rapist as if he was actually convicted over and over.

[–]grumpieroldman 17 points18 points  (5 children)

It's judgement-free sex. They get to completely let go and if he gives them the slightest bit of lip they get to destroy him for being such a loser. Everything that glitters is not gold.

Now compare her having sex with an actual alpha. She cannot afford to fuck it up. She cannot afford to be rejected by him. She does not want to face judgement by a superior. She could not stand the shame. She does not want anyone to see her so humiliated. The dynamic between a slut and an alpha is very different between a wallflower and an alpha. The sluts are terrified, the wallflowers are enchanted, and the lesbians are angry - how dare a man be fuckable.
You have to figure who you're dealing with to know what to do. You have to hamster the wallflowers, you have to put the sluts at ease, and you have to make the lesbian believe you are unicorn and this will never happen again (it will).
Almost none of them are worth your time or effort other than having an initial experience and moving on.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

He was alpha. Those girls actually wanted to fuck him. He did not negotiate desire. He promised nothing in return. He had nothing to offer besides sex.

[–]grumpieroldman 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Lol no.

When you are an alpha you have the most precious thing on Earth - your sperm.
You don't go throwing it around to a bunch of unworthy bar sluts. That's hypergamy.
If you've been wrapping your doink the entire time then you are a virgin.

I think you boys are in need of a massive reality check.
Betas are second in command. When the beta takes down the alpha he becomes the alpha.
If-only you could be a beta.
Every circle has an alpha. If you are the alpha in all of your circles then you are not pushing yourself.

When you are an alpha male - you keep reaching alpha a circle and moving on the next one - your goal is to pair with an alpha female. You are either worthy and capable of maintaining her fidelity and adoration or you aren't.

I can't quite articulate what TRP really means by Alpha or Beta yet but it sure as shit isn't an alpha nor beta of the species. It's more like TRP:alpha really means player and TRP:beta means gump which are categories way below beta. And "the game" is the slut's game.

[–]Incel9876 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When you are an alpha you have the most precious thing on Earth - your sperm.You don't go throwing it around to a bunch of unworthy bar sluts. That's hypergamy.

That's literally not the definition of hypergamy. Besides the Rat is an Alpha when it comes to the dual mating strategy of the women he was getting with, by default, since there could be no Beta-bux factor involved. What you're talking about is situational Alpha male, and talking about winning an Alpha female, as if an Alpha female would automatically make the best mate choice, especially when you're talking about not fidelity, when best move for LTR is just getting a young attractive virgin regardless of whether she is an "Alpha female." The mate of the Alpha male is the Alpha female, full stop.

[–]TheStoicCrane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Close bbut there are no Alpha or Beta males. Just mean who either consistently display dominance or consistently display submission. Submit to a woman and a man becomes a beta, a child in her eyes. No woman wants to fuck a kindergatener.

[–]Haki_User 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Well if Rat who looked and smelled and dressed like a fucking rat got 6s with his technique. Imagine what you can do with your woody fragrance and nice suit if you follow his technique.

[–]RebbitGolb 14 points15 points  (0 children)

How did you know that I carry the aroma of rich mahogany...

[–]wanderer779 66 points67 points  (0 children)

This story reminded me of a Warren Buffett quote: “There seems to be some perverse human characteristic that likes to make easy things difficult. ”

[–]MilkMoney111 19 points20 points  (1 child)

When I turned 21 and decided to experience the club life, I ran in to a guy like this. This was way before I knew anything about TRP. I saw this guy, at the club alone, and he was hitting on every single girl that walked by him. At first I thought he was creepy and judged him for it. But I can't lie I admired his dedication. Every girl rejected him, some even physically pushing him off, but he moved on to the next one. Sure enough, all it took was one girl to accept him, and they were swapping spit. Maybe out of 20 girls, he finally got one. I actually liked the guy for his commitment. One of the early red pill moments for me.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Respect. Although the 'rat' was a lowly life form I cannot help but respect what he did. Funny enough it also displayed double standard of girls. Girls that knew him socially actually praised him for being "such a player". While at same time I as a "good boy" was being shamed for looking in wrong direction.

[–]1Jaereth 39 points40 points  (2 children)

Ok so this is like level one. Yeah if you approach and approach you're gonna pull girls. This is year one lessons.

Eventually you start looking for quality over quantity.

[–]Venny_1 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It might be lesson one, but many newbies have difficulty crossing that threshold.

Overcoming anxiety of approach and fear of rejection is very difficult in the beginning, but once it's left behind, you start wondering what the hell you were afraid of to begin with.

[–]reformed_NPC 42 points43 points  (10 children)

" Only at the thirth venue we visited he was allowed inside."

Is that third, or thirteenth?

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 51 points52 points  (8 children)

You just found the only spelling mistake in whole story (I think). And I left it special for you.

[–]Northernsilver 24 points25 points  (1 child)

I like it, it adds charm to the tale.

[–]laserdicks 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Straight, not strait.

Spent, not spend.

[–]massifthrowaway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“He did have no status.”

“It was gone within a seconds.”

[–]Atheist_Utopia 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You wrote a really good story which would be even better without the spelling errors. It was also straight and not strait.

[–]redvelvet_oreo 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Lol I like how majority of the comments get the wrong message. The moral of the story is to not be the rat. The moral is if the Rat can get laid so can you if you apply your self and stop being a faggot. Now that your “woke” you should be approaching and gaming. It doesn’t take that much effort to get laid even if your short ugly and smell like shit or piss in this case.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Yup. You do not even have to take a shower. I do recommend showers. But if you do not have access to a shower or are afraid of water this is no excuse to not get laid. On the other hand, taking showers is no guarantee that you be getting laid.

[–]redvelvet_oreo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Agreed showers a good but “Alpha soap” will not get you laid haha

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder how many guys get the fight club reference. I want some soap now.

[–]H4RV3YSP3CT3R 27 points28 points  (4 children)

“You can be the ripest, juiciest peach in the world, and there's still going to be somebody who hates peaches.”

― Dita Von Teese

Looks matter don't get me wrong, but you'll never appeal to everyone.

I'm Indian/black but I'm more popular with anyone who isn't British caucasian or South Asian, not to say I don't get girls from those groups but I have a better impact with others.

Know your target market you're selling your SMV too.

[–]nobias00 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Not that easy for everyone, every race of woman has been attracted to me but they may have similarities that are not so easy to notice

[–]H4RV3YSP3CT3R 6 points7 points  (2 children)

No one's denying that, Hence why I said know your target market, you have to pick up on certain behaviours for example IOIs

[–]nobias00 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I know thats why I said its not easy for everyone. For some people its just race, for others its harder to tell what the pattern is regarding who they attract

e.g. I don't attract all women but I attract all kinds of women and I have no idea what my 'target market' is

Furthermore you can't have a target market in dating and sex, you can only know who sees you as a target lol

[–]H4RV3YSP3CT3R 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not just race though, hence why I said there's some Caucasian and South Asians who still beg me for sex, The key here is too actively pursue like Ratboy so it practically becomes second nature, Sure, You'll fail sometimes but you'll miss every shot that you didn't draw the gun for.

Eventually you'll reach a point where you'd subconsciously know if she's down or not and who's available to you.

Just get out there and stick with it and you'll understand the point I'm trying to make, Everyone has their market but you won't know the specifics of it unless you actively go out to see who wants to buy.

[–]Ansec 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The Boomhour approach.

[–]wobbleelbbow 12 points13 points  (13 children)

still get plenty of girls

plenty of sluts you mean. I bet most if not all of those chicks had tats and rode at least 10 different cocks. That's not surprise. He's still alpha in terms of getting laid and having a proper mindset, but think about the quality of chicks he brought home. Skanks. Sure once in a while he may have picked up a cutie. Still though, that's a poor example of a masculine man. More like a loser with IDGAF mentality. Which worked for him. Doesn't mean it will work consistently for average man.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 30 points31 points  (10 children)

sluts

Sorry to break it to you, all girls are sluts.

Also, get rid of that word from your vocabulary. Not because its disrespectful or some shit, but for pragmatic reasons. If a girl feels judged, she will sexually clam up. And you dont want that attitude slipping out inadvertantly.

[–]markinsinz7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

'10 different cocks?" Mate it more like 20-30 different dicks. You should some of the stories girls will tell you.

A travel chick itself is minimum 20.

[–]tempolaca 17 points18 points  (6 children)

This is good for people tha basically never fuck. But what about the rest of us? I wont' fuck 50% of the girls in a pub. Hell make it 70%. Asking any girl if you want to fuck, eventually you will find one with enough SMV differential that she will say yes on the spot. How's that different than fucking a whore? at least you choose the whore.

Remember, every single girl that the rat fucked, considered herself way lower in SMV than him, or else she wouldn't have fucked him.

[–]Sgt_Hero 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This shit right here. Quality over quantity.

Ive only been with only a couple of girls in the past two years but I 100% guarantee you these girls would never even consider giving The Rat the time of day.

I can only imagine the kind of girl who would fuck that kind of guy and I definitely wouldn't wanna put my dick anywhere near them.

[–]people_watcher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So what? So this guy asked out EVERY girl in the pub, but that doesn't mean you have to. Identify the ones you'd fuck and ask THEM.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How's that different than fucking a whore?

Whores costs money. He did not have money. I payed for a whore for him once.

[–]Field_Of_View 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Why would you do that?? I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than buying a hooker for another man. Honestly, think about it rationally. That's more cucked than having a daughter. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I befriended him to figure out how he was able to get girls. I basically bribed him to show me his "secrets". You call it "cucking" while I call it "intelligence gathering".

[–]TheStoicCrane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's being a good bro and doing a solid. The Ultimate cuck is letting him bang your girl while watching with a bowl of nachos in hand.

[–]masterbaterchief 5 points6 points  (6 children)

If any of you have this same issue, do tell. When I get stage fright upon approaching women (at my gym or school), it's often the people around the women that I'm nervous about the most. I somehow think that anyone within earshot is going to scrutinize my attempt, which makes me more nervous. The same thing goes if a girl is with her friends. I have no clue why I care about other's opinions, or why I think they even care about what I'm doing. It feels good to say it "out loud", though.

[–]RebbitGolb 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Every man or woman (except the bluest hairiest femtard) is routing for the underdog when someone is getting asked out in-earshot

Specifically if she’s with her friends, if she turns you down rudely... just go down the line of her other friends. Then end with “so no takers here, then? Alright tell your friends about my referral program”

[–]masterbaterchief 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need to do that. Anxiety is a bitch. I'm sure we all have it, at least a little bit.

[–]Tautline 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that just makes you look desperate, going down the line like that won’t work

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Girls will respect you for having the balls. They might pretend different, but that is just for appearance. Guys usually are too afraid to do it them self. Makes 'em jealous at times. Can be annoying. Just remember that they are weaklings and are not to be feared. Not even in packs.

[–]masterbaterchief 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to specifically target women in groups now to help myself overcome this weird anxiety. I almost did it today, but ended up chickening out. Shit man, I have no reason to be a fucking pussy.

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[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was not on the Autism spectrum. At the edge off homelessness, yes. The 'rat' did not care because he had no reason to care about anything. Nobody cared about him. Why in the hell would he care?

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There are multiple lessons in the story (and it is a real story).

One lesson is about the 'rat' himself. The other lesson is about me.

I had a decently decorated apartment. Took plenty showers and brushed hair. Wore fashionable brand name clothes. And was polite and friendly. Also had a wallet filled with money because I had a good job.

I did not have a single date.

[–]bnine_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you can replace the girl with any other word and the story will still be solid.

Thats how you get things done.

[–]MarcosDomingues 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fake story, but I get the point

[–]juddshanks 1 point2 points  (2 children)

There's a useful lesson here, in the sense that you miss all the shots you don't take and desensitizing yourself to failure will make you much more comfortable in taking the shot.

But don't be the guy who routinely does this.

If you're getting hard nos 90% of the time and still persisting, you're wasting time you should be spending on self improvement to get yourself to a better strike rate and going to have to deal with a lot of major problems in the bottom of the barrel 'yes' pile, whether it's severe bipolar, homicidal exes or a scorching case of herpes.

Also, unless you're a complete sociopath, eventually you're going to go past the point of desensitization and constant rejection is going to start to take it's toll on your mental wellbeing- talking about maintaining frame is all well and good up to a point but there's a limit to what an average human brain can take before repeated rejection starts to impact on your mental wellbeing and self confidence. If you're yelling 'slut'or 'whore' at anyone who says no, you're well past that point.

I reckon you should consider putting yourself through a 'rat' night once every year or so, not to pick up but because it's a useful way to assess your social value and desensitize yourself to rejection.

[–]RebbitGolb 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’m sorry but constant rejection will not take a toll on you if you’re going home with somebody most of the time. There’s nothing wrong with accepting that perhaps 5% of the population find you desirable. That’s plenty for most people.

[–]juddshanks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends who/what you're going home with.

[–]kellykebab 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds unlikely this dude could ever plate a girl.

On some level we all know the shotgun approach will work. Eventually.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotta be careful about STDS. I slept with 22 girls in 4 years and I feel pretty lucky that I don't have any STDs.

[–]surely_not_a_robot_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This isn't some big revelation or even something to be proud of. The only real lesson here is a lesson in statistics.

Statistically, if you talk to enough girls, yes, even an ugly loser like this rat can get laid. Girls get horny too. How attractive were most of them? How many of those girls the rat slept with didn't make a habit of doing this with every other guy they met? I'd be careful with reading too much into the rat's approach as it's a good way to maintain stasis -- if you're getting laid with low SMV girls all the time, would you put in effort to improve yourself? Just look at the rat to answer your question -- or to get an STD.

It's a lot harder to get the high SMV women. The only take away is to not get fixated on one unsuccessful approach and keep moving forwards.

Don't be a rat. They're disgusting and diseased.

[–]Aazaad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I read the first part of this, I was like..this is such a bullshit, made up story.

When I read the second part, where "the rat" got rejected by scores of girls but still kept approaching and kept saying "hey babe", before one said yes and had sex with him, I knew it was 100% true. I have actually seen it in real life.

Being smart, well dressed and hygienic reduces the number of rejects you get before one says yes. But even if you are the shittiest and ugliest guy who approaches scores of girls each night, you are far more likely to hit it off than being polite and trying to game one special girl only. It actually works.

[–]buywhenpriceishigh 1 point2 points  (8 children)

I really enjoyed this post.

But for those reading and think you won't get the courage to do this like me... The guy had nothing so he had nothing to lose including his dignity. Ask yourself, do you really wanna go to that level? Take a near drunk girl home, have her be all annoying, and worse of all, be all dirty and smelly in preparation because you wanted some stank pussy.

I'm not say that's bad all the time, but I think I'l take the money and good hair but take this mentality of dgaf. I'm not saying people don't develop this mentality at rock bottom, and maybe you have to change your life a little bit so you're on edge to maintain this mentality. But there is probably, just probably, a better way then to be in a position to be more susceptible to being an alcoholic or to steal an ashtray.

This is all fun when you think about it, but when it happens you're wondering why the cab can't come any faster. Not from my personal experience, just thinking aloud.

[–]WhiteGhosts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah i agree. approaching chicks should be priority but that doesnt mean i have to make a total fool of myself to do that. subtlety and class matter.

[–]bnine_ 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Imagine if one day he starts to care about himself. Gets a job, haircut and gym you name it

[–]buywhenpriceishigh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’d be a lot happier too

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Imagine what you could do. If this guy can get laid like mad. You should do at least ten times better.

[–]xddm2653 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think you missed the point.

But one thing you learn about hitting rock bottom, is to truly not give a fuck about anything

[–]buywhenpriceishigh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how so

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 3 points4 points  (5 children)

This method is no longer viable post metoo. Not only would you be regularly thrown out, you'd also be blacklisted from the place and in some instances given disorderly conduct tickets. There is nothing to be gained by "slutwhore" and again, it's no longer a viable behavior pattern.

tl;dr : Law of large numbers.

1000 approaches x 1% = 10 leads

10 leads x 10% = 1 FClose

When "the rat" said the place "was dead" what he meant was that he saw approaches would be difficult. He looked for a bar that would open 10-15 approaches to him in the next hour and didn't see it.

Also take in mind, being polite (as in "thank you" not "slut" when you're blown out) and shotgunning is increasingly grounds for being thrown out if you're unattractive as well. "You're making people uncomfortable in here and that's just not something we want here at BAR, have a great night sir, stay safe." EJECTED.

This is basically old PUA stuff with red dressing. Increasingly, even in public, this is resulting in guys getting the police called on them. And at college, this is totally impossible now.

The solution for "the rat" is in the LMS tradition of PUA (looks money style) to work on LOOKS and STYLE. Ugly guys find ways to look approachable and fresh all the time. PUA is ultimately about being socialized and fitting in, then playing the game (sets).

You're inadvertently advocating all game, no shame.

Again, old method that is being squeezed out. Hit the gym, get a tailor, learn social grace and retry.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I do not even know what this #metoo stuff is about. Do not even want to know. To me it sounds like something only people who spend too much time online worry about. If someone has problem with me they can shoot me. Otherwise they can fuck off. And I am serious.

I am not from USA. Perhaps that makes things different.

People are too afraid of confrontation these days.

When "the rat" said the place "was dead" what he meant was that he saw approaches would be difficult.

No. He approached every single girl in the place within only a few minutes. Buying a beer took longer.

for being thrown out

He got thrown out plenty of times. He be laughing his way to the exit.

guys getting the police called on them

He did hit on female cops. Just for laughs. He was familiar with the inside of jail cells as well. Did not give a fuck.

You're inadvertently advocating all game, no shame.

I do not suggest guys become like this 'rat'. Just saying that any guy should be able to get laid. Today! Right now! Just by having some balls and approach girls. No requirements. No gym or tailor needed.

And once these guys go to gym and get this tailor the result be even better.

This 'rat' was one of the lowest of lowest of lifeforms (I respect him). He got laid plenty. If an average guy would do the same thing (approach lots of girls) they be getting superior results just by being a somewhat better human being.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

We don't have any conflict outside your inability to grasp the point. This is not a sustainable model. You going to start racking up trespassing tickets to get laid?

This is TRP on idiot mode. Or as other posters said, level zero or one.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not looking for conflict. I agree with you fully. Just explaining how the 'rat' looked at the world. His way of thinking and doing.

(except this whole #metoo thing, which I am ignorant about and intent to stay that way)

[–]DramaticGolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

where r u and the rat from

[–]WalterEArmstrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don't mind prong'n homely, obese and stinky women this is the way to go. If you have any personal pride you'll need to slick up your game.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (8 children)

you make a point, but this dude is an outlier. what am I going to do now? just roll up to my city and just ask every girl for sex until one says yes?

like, come on dude.

[–]mathdrug 2 points3 points  (2 children)

He's not an outlier. The girls he are getting with are the outliers. This is the Central Limit Theorem of statistics. If a sample size is large enough, the distribution should be roughly normal. In this specific case, the top of the curve are Rejections ("Ew", "Gross", etc.). The far left side of the curve consists of Hard rejections (perhaps a slap to the face, or alcohol to the face), and the (far) right side of the curve consists of non-rejections - these are the outlier women that the rat is getting with.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (1 child)

yeah i got you, thanks for posting that man

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Take a shower, brush teeth, get some semi decent clothes and approach girls by using proper Game, as has been discussed on this sub for ages. And when you feel like you are a loser, just think about this guy and know you are amazing in comparison. You should be able to get laid, TODAY. No excuse.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (3 children)

come on, dude. it's not THAT simple.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It is how I got my first bang. I just approached a whole bunch of fatties late at night using Apocalypse opener. Not the most amazing girl in history, but she had big fat boobs and sucked my cock. Much more fun than jerking to porn.

[–]Cmdrj-nice 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What is the apocalypse opener

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I posted it somewhere in the comments. Take a look.

[–]jpfrana 0 points1 point  (1 child)

why would you desire to live like that?

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He did not desire to live his life as he did.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Why am I picturing the Rat as Steve Buscemi all the time while reading this 😄

[–]Field_Of_View 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oddly enough I imagine Steve Buscemi to smell nice, like leather jackets.

[–]JackNapier368 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This was a very good post. It illustrates the impact of just approaching. Have you adapted this behavior yourself and if so what have your results been?

[–]BadBoyProgrammer[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This was years ago. It took me years to process what I learned (I can be slow). Only after discovering Game and The Red Pill I managed to put it into practice. Now days I be approaching girls left and right like maniac. I am much more extreme than the 'rat' now. And have considerable better skills.

[–]JackNapier368 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'Much more extreme' What do you mean by that? And do you watch IOI's or are you cold approaching?

[–]izzyinjurious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know someone who is almost like that. Works in a warehouse doesn't give a shit approaches all the women. He's watched all the RSD videos so he knows what he's doing , but watching this guy flow through the crowd without missing a beat is amazing. Always picks up hb7 and up. Doesn't own a car, but gets them to drive him home or come to his ghetto house. He literally lives to get laid. I don't hang out with him, but I am learning a lot when he is in my group. He gives good advice. He says don't scan the room for girls of value, just approach anyone even guys to talk to build a crowd , get rejected and you'll always end up with a girl or two at the end of the night. He's so bad he has a reputation in one of the cities I go to pick up so he doesn't go there anymore just to LA. I thought this wasnt common but I guess it is.

[–]1introvertp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know a lot of "rats".

I've been doing game for years and still some of these guys go home with girls on nights when I don't because even after all this time I get into my head; I'll think to myself that I'm way above approaching these girls. I have everything! Meanwhile "Rats" are putting in the work.

Even when you've gotten to the point where your social circle is handing you pussy never drop the core game. You still have to put in work, always.

[–]Zech4riah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, this is how you play numbers game and get one night stands here and there. Not too efficient but important lesson still. Approach.

Personally I like to approach as few girls as possible and keep the girls I pull in rotation which "the rat" most likely can't do.

If you are a 6 and approach 20 girls a night vs you are a 9 and approach 5 girls a night - You, as a 6, will most likely get laid more.

[–]mismm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do people actually believe this terribly written fiction?

[–]orangebudd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good write up thx. Sound like the story of the iranian from hell. Nice to see another dutchie on this board.

[–]reversec 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whenever I read the word rat I always think of Trevor of GTA V

[–]Lucky-Mustard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This shit is givin' me some hope , cuz im a "rat". Yesterday i aproached a girl after work (i posted on seddit) , im short , and i was tired,hair looked like shit and mouth smelling like fish cuz i didn't had time to buy some gum but im on this point at my life where i can't give a fuck anymore.. so i aproached her. God knows what i said , still she gave me her facebook , i think she canceled the friend request after she asked me if i have a girlfriend and i said "yes but it doesen't matter".

Anyway thanx for the post...i will save it and read again. Also the comment section is awesome and i found many gold gems down here.

[–]vincentdraven 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So do you guys who write these type of stories get turned on by people believing them? What's the deal?

[–]A_solo_tripper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Balls and guts will usually win over skill, style, technique, etc.

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