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CultureRemoving Power From Men : Mom Says 6-Year-Old Son Is Transgender. Dad Disagrees. Now He Might Lose His Son. (self.TheRedPill)

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The Federalist reports that the mother has accused the father of child abuse in their divorce proceedings "for not affirming James as transgender" and is looking to strip the dad of his parental rights. "She is also seeking to require him to pay for the child’s visits to a transgender-affirming therapist and transgender medical alterations, which may include hormonal sterilization starting at age eight," the report adds.

The father has been legally barred from speaking to his child about sexuality and gender from a scientific or religious perspective and from dressing his son in boys' clothes; instead, he has to offer both girls' and boys' outfits. The boy consistently refuses to wear dresses, according to the father.

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The author warned, "If we do not save [the boy] from a misdiagnosis, his next step is chemical castration at age eight, only two years away."

It's not secret on TRP that feminism has been on a war path to remove power and agency from men. It's actually somewhat impressive the depths they'll go to to gain absolute control.

Feminism wants to increase opportunities and options for women while minimizing potentially negative outcomes. For men, they want to increase the risk in any sexual behavior, decrease options and opportunities, and increase liability.

And here we are with the latest liability.

Want to teach your son/daughter standard gender roles? Now you're evil and courts can take your kid away.

Never mind the fact that encouraging this behavior in children before they're even aware of what sex is leads to one of the highest suicide rates known to any group of people. If you're a man, the message is clear: You're not allowed to have influence in your child's life if the Marxists make up a new mental illness and impose it on your child.

This is an extremely perverse one, because it sexualizes young children and paints it as compassion. Even level-headed women are easily taken in by this with the idea that there should be a discussion with your child about it. (Essentially child abuse).

As parents I think it's important that we do not even entertain such ideas. Media is doing its fucking best to get these ideas into the heads of children as young as possible. Young children are impressionable and have no idea what they actually want. They will mimic and emulate what they see others do.

Prudent parents would not mistake this as an actual interest in becoming trans. They would set boundaries to prevent this mimicking behavior. As soon as the child moves on from this awful phase, they'll be happy their parents didn't indulge in it and chemically castrate them when they were 8.

This is just another inch (read: mile) taken by feminism as they crusade against men and boys, and dismantle the family and the role of the patriarch. And it's one that every single one of you are going to need to fight tooth and nail if you choose to have kids.

Follow up: Americans Greatly Overestimate Percent Gay, Lesbian in U.S.


It really is disheartening to hear what this father is going through. I checked out his site for his kid, savejames.com:

  • James is a 6 year old boy – his mother is attempting to change his gender
  • James prefers to be a boy, but since the age of 3, his mother has chosen to dress him as a girl, and call him by the name “Luna”
  • She has enrolled him in school as a girl. He is currently in 1st grade. The teachers and administrators know that he is a boy, but the other parents and students are unaware
  • He is undergoing “social transitioning” therapy to prepare him for chemical castration at age 8
  • James’ father, Jeff is fighting to protect his son all alone
  • His mother has support and financial backing
  • Jeff needs both financial help with legal fees and help networking to find expert witnesses who will help him keep his son safe
  • The court is requiring Jeff to pay for transgender therapy and the future sexual mutilation of his son
  • Courts have enjoined Jeff from dressing James as a boy at school, from teaching him that he is a boy, and from sharing religious teachings on sexuality and gender
  • He has been accused of ABUSE for saying that his son is a boy

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[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 183 points184 points  (25 children)

We don't trust children to choose what to eat, because they'll try to live off hamburgers and fries.

We don't trust children to decide where to go: they'll go somewhere harmful to them so we protect them from wrong paths in life.

We don't trust children to decide when to go to bed because they'll stay up all night, be unable to concentrate, and not get the education the deserve.

We don't trust children to decide what school to go to because they'll follow their friends rather than acting in their long term best educational interests.

We vet their friends to be good influences, and don't allow our children to associate with bad or damaging influences.

But if that child says "I'm female today", then we go ahead with life altering chemical adjustments that destroy their bodies and their lives.

Past generations would call this child abuse. Future ones will too.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 41 points42 points  (2 children)

Exactly. I really don't get it. You can't even open your open bank account without an adult before the age of 18, yet you can completely alter your body with chemicals and surgery at 8 years old.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So long as you're converting boys to girls.

If you went the other way it would be abuse.

Because society judges female to be correct and male to be wrong.

[–]NikolaGeorgiev 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Past generations would call this child abuse. Future ones will too.

This shit is our age's Lobotomy.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

haha true that

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 12 points13 points  (11 children)

But if that child says "I'm female today", then we go ahead with life altering chemical adjustments that destroy their bodies and their lives.

I'm not in favor of horomone treatment of minors, but it doesn't do the discussion any good to make shit up. Even for adults, gender reassignment work has a battery of requirements and a long waiting period before treatments can begin.

Medical ethics panels have hashed this out at great length. This is NOT something that is done spontaneously or casually. The quote above is not at all congruent with actual medical practices, so why introduce it to honest discussion?

I think the mother is starting the ball rolling at the beginning of a mandated 2 year period, but will not succeed in bullshitting the system all the way through the checks and balances involved if the kid doesn't earnestly and unquestionably want to proceed at any stage.

[–]Drekalo 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I don't see how a child at the age of eight is going to understand "these chemicals will inhibit your natural ability to be a man", or be capable of doubting his mother when she's also a medical professional and supposedly a trusted figure for families and kids as a pediatrician.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 3 points4 points  (0 children)

how a child at the age of eight is going to understand

I agree that permanent developmental alterations are not indicated in almost all minors.

Stepping back a bit, I think we have to dispel the straw man so many ITT present, that someone (parent, child) can just wake up one day and decide to do this and the medical establishment will just go along with it immediately. From what I understand, it's at least a year process to apply for gender reassignment as an adult, and involves a panel of doctors, psychologists etc, with MUCH higher bar to even consider a minor.

This process is specifically designed to weed out cases where the person is making an inadequately informed decision, or like the case in discussion at the behest of another person like the crazy mother here. Even if she wins the right in court to begin the process without the Father's consent, she'll then have to go through this long and detailed vetting process before the medical establishment would consider doing it. If the situation is as described, where the child does NOT identify as the opposite gender, I expect they would be kicked out of consideration at the first consultation.

If the pediatrician Mother decided to forge ahead on her own, she'd lose her state medical license in a heartbeat, and probably face criminal charges and loss of custody of the child on top of that.

To me, any approval of anyone including adults using permanent gender reassignment tools is conditional upon all of these checks and balances in place.

Now, returning to the "almost all." In the vastness of humanity, there exist individuals with bona-fide gender dysphoria who identify and behave as the opposite gender from a young age and throughout adulthood. These are the ones that strangers with broken gaydar can recognize as children, and who grow up to get mastectomies or take estrogen to grow boobs.

Now, medical science is capable of helping them develop the secondary sex characteristics they prefer in the first place.

The current state of medical ethics considers this a bridge too far; the current compromise is to offer horomones to block puberty until they can consent as an adult to take opposite sex horomones. The outcome is better to some than surgery after normal puberty, but less good than developing at the normal age of ~13.

There is demand for gender reassignment, and thanks to medical science, there is now supply. This is reality, whether or not you wish to utilize it. Prohibition won't stop it and will increase overall harm to society, a lesson from things like steroids, drugs, abortion, and alcohol.

This is a serious matter that won't go away if ignored or prohibited. How and when to use it belongs in the hands of trained and regulated medical professionals, psychologists, and medical ethics experts, and that is the state of things today. It doesn't belong in the hands of unilateral individuals like the mother in the story, or ideologues biased strongly for or against using it, especially those with no personal skin in the game.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Those "standards" were created by the same people who decided Gender Dysphoria was not a mental disorder after all and look at that! You are totally mentally sane just because you want to chop off your tally-wacker. A boy can be a girl if she wants and YOU are insane for questioning this logic.

I have read stories of 11 and 12 year old children delaying puberty so they can take hormone treatments later. I have read stories of 12 and 13 year old children being given sex changes and THEN when they turn 20 they decide to change back....Oops, turns out, once you give hormones and especially once you invert your tallywacker into a vagina that the best you can give the boy who decided she was a girl who then becomes a girl via chemical castration and at that point decides he is a boy is a micropenis. Sorry about that little guy.

Hundreds if not thousands of children have been subjected to this body and mind altering regimen and 40% end up committing suicide yet this transgender thing continues and is encouraged. It is encouraged by a variety of groups, including the medical establishment, so spare us any so called "medical ethics.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have read stories of 12 and 13 year old children being given sex changes and THEN when they turn 20 they decide to change back

An obvious tragedy, that any harm reduction based policy would strive to prevent.

this transgender thing continues and is encouraged. It is encouraged by a variety of groups, including the medical establishment, so spare us any so called "medical ethics.

Activists and people with a personal axe to grind (both for and against) have no place in the decision making process. Emotional motivations lead to bad decisions. Right now it's a wild west surrounding this emerging human ability; I'm arguing for strict scientific standards and case by case vetting, toward a future where this technology must be managed. Simple 100% prohibition will lead to worse society-wide outcomes than intelligently managing, limiting, and regulating it.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 4 points5 points  (6 children)

. Even for adults, gender reassignment work has a battery of requirements and a long waiting period before treatments can begin.

Read the article. Chemical modifications start at age 8.

Medical ethics panels have hashed this out at great length. This is NOT something that is done spontaneously or casually. The quote above is not at all congruent with actual medical practices, so why introduce it to honest discussion?

Medical ethics panels???

These people do not operate in a vacuum. They won't chop off my leg if I'm convinced I'm a pirate, but they'll chop off my dick if I'm convinced I'm a woman.

Gender is simply not physically reassignable. You don't become female just by wishful thinking.

If I was convinced I was black, could I get tattooed so I can maintain the pretence?

I think the mother is starting the ball rolling at the beginning of a mandated 2 year period

This is a CHILD. Decisions are made for that child that are hugely damaging. Even "the child thinks it is female" is not valid because those thoughts are instilled by others.

but will not succeed in bullshitting the system all the way through the checks and balances involved if the kid doesn't earnestly and unquestionably want to proceed at any stage.

And this is my point: if the child earnestly and unquestionably believed he should have his ear cut off, would we? What about a leg? What about an eye? Of course we fucking wouldn't. Only the penis is allowed to be electively removed.

[–]pacukluka 3 points4 points  (1 child)

As far as ive read from the text above, the boy wants to be a boy but his mother insists he is female/transgender and dresses him as a girl and calls him a female name

[–]moltenw 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The issue regarding your first part of the comment is that most parents are shit at raising their children, and that often when a child comes to teenage years, they might already be actually wiser on a lot of things than their parents, yet need to obey them because "parents know better" TM and most don't have the resources to move out at that age.

Parents know better - not neccesarily. Only if they truly do know better. Being a parent alone doesn't cut it.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

and that often when a child comes to teenage years, they might already be actually wiser on a lot of things than their parents, yet need to obey them because "parents know better" TM and most don't have the resources to move out at that age

Right, and that's the transition into adulthood.

Parents know better - not neccesarily. Only if they truly do know better. Being a parent alone doesn't cut it.

Right... but no good parent lets their child do whatever they like.

[–]CasualPlay3r 186 points187 points  (45 children)

South american here reading this... What the fuck is going on north america?. All i can think when reading this is, that boy could be any of us. Thats just madness, alienation, feminism has gone too far, and im concerned because that cancer ideology has been forming here in argentina too.

I get what people mean with "enjoy the decline", but we must step up and take action, how can we let women chemically castrate a man when he's the most vulnerable??? The joke has gone too far and it must stop.

[–]CensorThis111 85 points86 points  (29 children)

I get what people mean with "enjoy the decline"

I have always disagreed with this. For a mens-empowerment subreddit "enjoy the decline" is probably the least manly thing you can do about a decline.

[–]DownyGall 56 points57 points  (25 children)

Dare I say it - enjoy the decline is a beta move.

Imagine if you read a similar situation in a history book about the fall of the Roman Empire. Rome is beset on all sides by barbarians. Enemies are within. Their women are whores and their sons act like women. What do these men of Rome do? Oh, they say fuck it, the civilization is lost. Let's enjoy as many women as we can. That's so incredibly beta. If you read it in a history book, you'd say "what's wrong with the men of Rome?"

But for some reason, it's okay today to enjoy the decline.

[–]makeshift98 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It's "enjoy the decline" because there is nothing you can do. Are you gonna start a blog, or make a bunch of "white genocide is a crime" comments on YouTube? The West is fucked in a myriad of ways that have so much inertia there is no stopping it at this point; it's going to take a collapse to set things right.

To quote Hotel Rwanda: "people are just going to say, 'oh my god that's terrible', then go back to eating their dinners."

[–]BewareTheOldMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you - I don't want society going down the tubes, but are we supposed to One-Man Army this mess?

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[–]nobias00 14 points15 points  (15 children)

The amount of shit that a person of group of people could get now is immense. The GOVERNMENT is the enemy USING WOMEN as a weapon.

So your example is weak because it makes everything sound so easy.

[–]chrisname 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Probably easier than fighting Huns and Ostrogoths.

[–]Apolo180 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that's false. It's a different time, a society of instant gratification and consumerism. People in ancient times were raised to be potential warriors. Life was hard. People are a product of their times. Today's society doesn't produce warriors, it produces sensitive pansies and chastises those who fail to toe the line to this standard. Just look at the big issues in the western world today- posting pictures of your face smeared with your menstrual blood on your face to make a weird feminist point. If these people were in Kenya or somewhere else, in a state of constantly fearing for their life, they wouldn't have time to make mountains out of molehills. And you know why it isn't easy? Because you're not fighting against women. You're fighting against bigoted men who actually believe in the feminist mythos. And now you have transgender, gays etc, further blurring the lines between men and women. The western society is ruined. Just wait till the Us gets a lesbian feminist or, better yet, a transgender homosexual man, for a president and people at large will finally realize how fucked up things have become.

[–]nobias00 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Huns and Ostrogoths.

Obviously you are a gentleman and a scholar, your knowledge of history is impressive but I doubt it would be easy not only for men as a whole to congregate, but for them fight for one cause; not to mention they are fighting against an established system with indoctrinated soldiers of all levels

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah. Because one man could make a difference fighting huns and ostrogoths (like basilarius). One man cannot make a difference when fighting feminism.

[–]Bonesteel50 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Truth is, an individual can't stop the rivers flow. The answer is'nt to force yourself against the tide (fall) but to navigate it.

[–]Apolo180 1 point2 points  (2 children)

But do you know how the mighty roman empire wasted away? Constantine ( "saint Constantine") had a lot to do with that. Rome went from a having a religion that instilled warlike attitudes in men to having his men embrace a religion of love and turning the cheek. Now Christianity was nothing like that, on closer view, but the effects on Rome's armies were felt. Now, why did the romans put up with their crazed emperor's whims? That sounds like not doing anything to me, so I don't think you've picked the right comparison.

[–]nobias00 5 points6 points  (1 child)

werment subreddit "enjoy the decline" is probabl

its obviously a facetious quote but if taken logically it still makes sense. The decline has happened already and IS happening. Either enjoy YOURSELF whilst the decline happens or fight against something that you will not win.

You only beat this shit by either being alone, or living in a rural area with your family

[–]TheBunBun54321 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Glad I'm not the only one thinks this way

[–]twofones 11 points12 points  (1 child)

So this is in Plano, TX. Which court is it? Is there only one court? What’s the district? What’s the zip code? Who lives in the community? Do they even know about this? Who is the judge? This is all public information.

Why is there not a string of abuse lawsuits against mothers like this one?

Men and the citizens in general are under attack by our the courts and our institutions. “Feminism” can’t do shit. The courts can, the men that show up at your door to make you comply can.

We desperately need to upgrade our vocabulary for personal and organizational accountability.

This isn’t feminisms fault, it’s not a psycho moms fault, it’s not the cuck dads fault. This is the court enforcing and even entertaining this.

There are actual human people accountable. We need to take this approach modern-Nuremberg style. Now.

[–]CasualPlay3r 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im on the other side of the world, so cant do much atm... my best guess is to post this story on reddit and hope for the best,

[–]noPTSDformePlease 10 points11 points  (3 children)

there is no longer any evolutionary pressure on humans living in north america so none of the shitfucks are dying off. Once the shitfucks reach adulthood, they continue to be shitfucks and we get stuck with this kind of crap.

[–]tempolaca 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Deep truth here. In nature, crazy mom would basically kill all his children and her genes wont pass. Now, they pass.

[–]kagetsuki32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think humanity need a natural predator, too much safety is not good for the brain. Its a good thing A.I. is coming, some terminators may put humanity back to sanity.

[–]MoDuReddit 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Brasil is even more cucked, Bolsonaro's election was a total south american Trump election: leftist media fake news barrage, prophecies of the end of the world and the gays, using (cucked) universities as political stages, etc...

[–]ChinmayT2 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Are you from Brazil? Can you tell me more about Bolsonaro?

I am from India so don't understand all the videos in Portuguese. He seems like a man who can get shit done.

[–]Stonesaint 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Here you go from a fellow Indian,

http://www.themodernsurvivalist.com/archives/5660

[–]miramardesign 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Men are disposable moreso in the first world. A) there are more machines and technology to reduce the importance of men's roles.
B) the constant stream of male majority immigration makes the first world a sausage fest . Thus men are starved for female attention and the blue pills will do anything to get the girl

Source I live in Argentina

[–]odaklanan_insan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A) there are more machines and technology to reduce the importance of men's roles.

Who do you think are building and maintaining those machines?

B) the constant stream of male majority immigration makes the first world a sausage fest . Thus men are starved for female attention and the blue pills will do anything to get the girl

If most men had understood the red pill concept, the problem would probably be solved. Women are not that hard to manipulate. You could apply TRP principles to your life, but propagating them is a different story. why do you think this sub is quarantined?

[–]miramardesign 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gender ratio matters and collides with red pill concepts. Yes the alphas will always win out with the ladies but the gender ratio affects behavior and also how he upper betas fare. The 3rd world and the first world ghetto has a different problem, the lack of males make hookups too easy but men don't have to commit thus most kids are fatherless. The ghetto because a large amount of males are in jail and the 3rd world because a large amount are in Miami.

Immigration is a touchy subject nowadays but we should mention that if it's primarily males , that upsets the gender ratio of an area. Ie I'm not so racist as to not want single young Mexicanas into my country neither are most redpilled men. However we are sick of the continued devalorization of men that gendered immigration and gendered socialism represents

[–]SKRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All this makes me grateful that I am grounded properly by nature in my physical body as a man. Otherwise the madness of the mind would know no limits.

Yes, men have to take power into their own hands. That's the only way it was ever done. In the past, when empires began to abuse their subjects, they were overthrown. Now a days that's considered too threatening and scary, and besides, it's all too easy to turn that into fanaticism and what not. But change is needed. Our problem is, we are still too nice at a collective level. We can't be so nice to a democracy made up of the brain dead insane. And as men, change starts only with us. We are the producers remember.

At the very least, more men should vote than women (right now, it's the other way around). It's bad when men aren't being proactive.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 243 points244 points  (9 children)

What the hell is going on? This is sickening. As if I need more reasons to not have a kid in this society. If anything, this is child abuse by the mom, NOT THE FATHER. 8 years old is way too young.

[–]anon59874 99 points100 points  (3 children)

Part of the reason why TheRedPill is Quarantined right now is because of this dynamic. This isn't new either, throughout history, government/religious/corporate institutionalized abuse (child or other) periodically rears its ugly head like clockwork. The prevailing group-think wields ultimate unchecked power, and starts exporting human suffering at increasingly large scale. It's at this point where groups like trp form like bacteria forms on food left out. The institutionalized child abuse is a sickness and cancer on the American republic, and we call it out in no uncertain terms, and when we do, we're shouted out of the room by NPC-wojacks shrieking the prevailing bankrupt ideology of virtue signaling group think.

I'm reminded of that ancient Rudyard Kipling poem: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46473

"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you..." The TRP Quarantine are the sound and spoils of ideological victory. The question is how to we divest the mentally ill of their scepters without doing too much collateral damage. That poor child is being subjected to government enforced institutionalized child abuse. Any fair minded judge would see it that way, and yet, here we are witnessing arms of the government enforcing what everyone can plainly see is injustice.

[–]patrixxxx 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This. We have to start questioning things we never imagined we should/could. Our reality has been hijacked and it's not just about gender issues. Start here cluesforum.info

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Part of the reason why TheRedPill is Quarantined right now

I agree. What a sick, sick realization. They literally cannot handle the truth and instead of facing truth and accepting it, they prefer to change reality and punish anybody who dares to look beyond the false and twisted reality they have constructed.

[–]mojavelover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not even ancient 120, years ago. Great Poem I have it on the wall an ex-girlfriend painted 'IF' for me on canvas as a gift. Kipling is awesome.

Ancient is Ovid and Catullus. Who were banging Patrician wifes in Rome.

[–]3CainPrice 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Dad's not helping himself in this case. It's a lot to ask of him really - maybe an impossible thing to ask of a father - but I'd bet good money that Dad has been a dick about this.

And now mom can run to the court and say Dad's abusive, she feels threatened, he's "bullying" his trans-kid. She can use every instance of Dad (very understandably) being an ass and being angry and letting his anger show as additional ammunition - clearly his trans-kid is a girl and is just scared to be a girl around dad, etc.

If Dad was ever emotional about this and angry about this and did anything dick-ish about this, which I would bet a lot of money he has, that alone can cost his child everything even if Dad's right.

Which isn't fair. It's impossible to ask a father in this situation to keep his composure. But if Dad has ever acted out about this, even once, his odds of winning for his child drop to almost nothing.

[–]brotein_synthesis 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What trans-kid? There are no trans-kids period. If dat hoe was my wife, I'd send her to North Korea with an amazon drone.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The red pill rules Reddit rules and prudence prevent me from telling you what I would do in this man's situation.

[–]Kpwn88 31 points32 points  (0 children)

When you are a sexy man, and give your wife sexy sons, she will want them to give her sexy grandchildren. Ask me how I know.

I feel for this man and his son, but at the same time I know this man fucked up bad by even impregnating this woman. Broken home with a beta cuck father and virtue signaling SJW feminist mom... My guess is the son doesn't stand a chance either way.

[–]Thor-Loki-1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

6 years old now, dude. 8 is when they chemically castrate him--shoot him full of hormone blockers.

[–]themanbat 31 points32 points  (2 children)

If the laws and government don't stop this nonsense, before long we're going to see a spike in the murder rate.

[–]Quo210 34 points35 points  (1 child)

...laws and government are encouraging and enforcing this non-sense.

Everyday more globally

[–]yazen_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not in Muslim countries.

[–]BadBoyProgrammer 31 points32 points  (1 child)

This is the kind of stuff that goes too far for my mind to be able to process.

If society accepts or even encourages this, then something is seriously wrong. The problem must be a whole lot deeper and one day it will blow up in face. I suggest moving to other country. Do not be in debt. Have an exit strategy!

[–]Redsqa 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yep, this guy needs to move out the US and take his son with him, whatever the cost. That's what I would do, nobody is fucking castrating my boy against his will even if we have to go and live in Turkmenistan.

[–]3CainPrice 78 points79 points  (5 children)

The same people who declare that there is no such thing as gender roles, and clothes should just be clothes, toys should just be toys, and there should be no such thing as boy stuff and girl stuff - just stuff, will turn around and tell you that if a 3 year old boy who doesn't know the difference between boys and girls doesn't object when his mother dresses him in girl clothes, he's clearly a trans-gender girl.

[–]GirTheRobot 34 points35 points  (2 children)

https://youtu.be/X9JLij1obHY?t=11781

Right here Eric Weinstein points out exactly what you're saying. It's constant contradictions. It's the contradiction of "I'm a woman so you couldn't POSSIBLY understand what I'm going through" mixed with "We need to make policy based on what I'm going through you MUST understand."

Or the classic "Gender is a social construct. Women can have armpit hair and bulldike haircuts and act tough like men" but the moment a male wants to "act" like a female (see: chopping his penis off, having long hair, wearing dresses, putting on makeup) then she is an empowered woman and we should respect her for behaving and acting like a woman.

Or my personal favorite: Women are perpetually both victims and strong, independent creatures who can do anything they want.

[–]formerliberaldem 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yep. Women have the unique position of literally having everything in life handed to them, while at the same time being told they are victims.

[–]MoDuReddit 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Remove all gender identifiers from around forming children, can't object to what they can't differentiate. This is some comunist party level shit right there.

[–]TheAC997 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"If you think the sexes have mental differences, then you're sexist. Also, the biggest difference between men and women is their mental differences, if you think otherwise then you're transphobic."

[–]SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY 42 points43 points  (15 children)

I want to see a response from the woman. I’m not saying I expect to be proven wrong, but I can’t find a single instance where she has spoken publicly about any of this and most of the sources come the the fathers site.

As it is, obviously this is fucked beyond belief. Especially the part where he acts like a boy around his dad. If we could meet the kid maybe our mind would be changed.

In any fucking case, why are they letting a child make legal decisions??? It’s so easy to manipulate a child that it’s absolutely unfair. If the mother really is dressing him up as a girl, there’s a 2000% chance he’s going to be in a therapists office bawling one day, wondering where it all went wrong.

Parents who force their children to believe their political opinions are fucked in the head. Good parents let their kids believe whatever they want and let them come to their own conclusions, and don’t shield them from reality. If she walked this kid into a church, they would filet her with insults because it’s wrong. The only place he would fit in is a Clinton rally. And she is fucking with his social life because all his friends at school are going to know him for the rest of his life as the freak whose parents have problems.

[–]3CainPrice 54 points55 points  (7 children)

There's this thing called gender mourning. Mothers who really, really wanted to have a girl, but only have boys can become grief-stricken and depressed. After having a second or third child and not wanting any more children (or their husband not wanting any more), all boys, they feel an extreme sense of loss as they realize they'll never have a little girl.

Mom in this case is literally mentally ill and needed a therapist for herself, not for her son.

But she's a mid 50's pediatrician. A doctor. So she's convinced herself that she's smart and educated and knows about medical shit like this, and she diagnosed her son with medical gender dysphoria, seeing only what she wants to see due to her damaged mental state. And she therapist-shopped for a practitioner that would approve her diagnosis. Now she can have the girl she always wanted.

[–]SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY 11 points12 points  (2 children)

The father should be able to make a counter-claim if he has custody and go to literally any therapist to ask them without him in the room. I will say from reading the guys stuff, if he felt the therapist was legitimately getting his son’s real opinion, he would probably take it. It’s the fact that the mother is essentially fronting for “Luna’s opinion” with whoever confirms her belief. This is really just all kinds of fucked up.

[–]3CainPrice 34 points35 points  (1 child)

She sees what she wants to see. Her son is a 6 and loves his mother, like most 6-year-olds do. He seeks her love and approval, like all children. So when he's with his mom, he does what he thinks she wants, he says what he thinks she wants to hear, and wants to please her.

So in mom's world, her son really -is- a girl, and when he acts like a boy for his father, it must be his evil father coercing him to do so.

It's not that mom doesn't care. It's that mom is mentally ill. She literally believes she is doing the right thing because her brain has convinced itself that she is acting on her child's behalf instead of for the selfish reasons she's actually doing this.

Some mentally ill women drown their kids in the bathtub. This mentally ill woman wants to sex-change her son.

The alarming issue isn't mom. It's how quickly liberal society will leap to do anything anti-male. How the fuck was she able to get a court order fast-tracking a six-year-old boy for sex-change without more substantial medical evidence?

[–]SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY 6 points7 points  (0 children)

True. Of course it’s not a girl this time but if they made their girl dress up like a dude I think they would be calling them womy haters. I just want to know why liberals always cling to anything in aversion to tradition. If anything is different, they’re the first to defend it no matter how fucked up it is.

[–]1ozaku7 2 points3 points  (1 child)

My mom has a friend who moved with her husband to the middle east. Her husband wanted a son. She gave birth to 9 daughters, and won't be surprised if she got stoned in all the wrong ways by now.

[–]nobias00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assumed it was gender mourning immediately

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Here's the initial court filing. I only skimmed it but it appears to back his case.

http://savejames.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Younger-VS-Georgulas.pdf

[–]menial_optimist 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Honestly the responsibility for finding a good mother rests solely upon the fathers shoulders. There is no way in hell a social justice uni snowflake will ever bear my children. Get that fucking shit away from me. Long before children happen the woman should be properly vetted and her core beliefs/values explored to avoid trainwrecks like mother in this story.

[–]SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh yeah good chance this guy knew she was nuts. He should have voluntarily participated in a mental evaluation himself, brought that to family court and request she do the same. If I knew I was divorcing a total loon, I would do that. Otherwise this kind of shit is your new reality.

[–]Quo210 76 points77 points  (36 children)

All of you people in the US, Canada and Western Europe are really fucked.

And I mean everybody is fucked, because this is going to backfire on women as these abused generations grow up.

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain 73 points74 points  (3 children)

No it won't, women will just blame men for allowing their retarded behavior.

[–]Quo210 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Bitches might follow their biologic imperative of 0 accountability, doesn't mean they won't feel the consequences and pay for them.

Imagine these retards doing these to their children, and have them suicide at their teens, when they (the bitches) are beyond their reproductive range: Failed biologically, failed socially, failed at life.

If that consequence is their genes dissapearing from the pool, that's it, even if they don't realize it.

[–]kurisuotaku 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When Islam takes over the west, are you sure you sure they'll dare open their mouths, let alone speak against a man?

[–]DeontologicalSanders 26 points27 points  (4 children)

Internalize this now: Nothing ever really backfires on women. They are simply not held accountable for bad behavior to anywhere near the extent that men are, and really have not been at all since we stopped branding them with a scarlet letter for being capricious and adulterous.

Not all women are bad decision makers. Not all bad decisions are made by women. But when women make bad decisions in arenas in which men are involved, it is always men who end up shouldering the blame and bearing the cost.

And even in circumstances where women do end up suffering tangibly because of their own poor choices, they never truly accept accountability for them. They almost always find a way to shift blame and the emotional burden on to a man. Even when women fuck up, they never truly feel the weight of their fuck-ups.

This is why getting angry or frustrated or emotional with women in the confines of a relationship is never effective. She'll just get mad at you and throw a tantrum because you're trying to blame her for something.

[–]saucierlol 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Aftee WWII, french women who'd been married to german soldiers and nazis got punished by being publically (not pubically.. only the head) shaved and shamed. What kind of punishment is this? These women knew what they were doing, they were selecting what they thought to be the dominant males regardless of any morals or ethics. Granted, they didn't know about the death camps, still it was an invading country, and one that we had already been at war with not 20 years prior. They betrayed their country for social financial comfort and just got shaved, where proven male collaborators were hanged. Why didn't they hang the women?? I would argue that marrying and mixing blood with the enemy is the highest of betrayal, and yet they just got shaved...

This is the extent of women not being held accountable for their bad behavior.

[–]DeontologicalSanders 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We don't punish women as harshly for any crime, because women are more biologically valuable than men.

Let's use an extreme example to illustrate:

Tribe A has 20 women and one man. Tribe B has 20 men and one woman.

In Tribe A, the one man can impregnate 20 women virtually all at the same time, whereas in Tribe B, each man must wait a minimum of 9 months for his "turn" to reproduce with the one female. And that's not to mention the high probability that within Tribe B, 3 or 4 of the strongest, most capable men would band together to form a monopoly on the one female, and leave the other 16-17 fighting violently for their "turn" or abandoning the tribe altogether. Within the span of one generation, Tribe A's reproductive viability as a group is many times that of Tribe B, due to an abundance of women.

In short, hurting, punishing, or ostracizing women to the same degree as men is a behavior that has been bred out of humanity over time. The tribes who engaged in such behavior would eventually find themselves in a position of reproductive scarcity and face dying out.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crucial point, thank you

[–]Andgelyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah, the majority only. If you’re a minority growing up in the ghetto, your masculinity will be cultivated and saved. Growing up as a minority in the hood is the same as the traditional America back in the day. You grew up without shit, so you work hard and the environment forces you to be a tough man. It’s why so many black guys and minorities are killing it right now. I grew up in dirty jersey and the kids today in the urban environment are still red pill as fuck.

[–]LeadVitamin13 9 points10 points  (24 children)

Calm down, you guys act like its the whole generation and not just a few screwed up people. Parent have been fucking up their kids for generations, this is just a new variation. If you don't believe me head over to the raisedbynarcissists subreddit. The only way this may be worse then raising your kid as a racist or religious fundamentalists is if they actually get chemically castrated.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I don’t think the issue is really the craziness of the mom. The issue is how this has gained traction in this libcuck clown world society. The father is clearly the voice of reason here, not wanting his son and wife to make an irreversible and life altering decision of castration at the age of 8.

How the fuck do the courts end up on the mom’s side of this? We need a return to the patriarchy pimp hand badly. It won’t happen tho.

Of course there have always been insane parents, like the woman who drowned her kid in the bathtub. But there was never any societal sanctioning of that. This lunatic mother has the sanctioning of our leftist infested legal system. What a fucking joke.

[–]LeadVitamin13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I think it is the craziness of the mom that is the issue. You think that if it wasn't for feminism or social justice that she would be acting perfectly normal? She'd find some other way to fuck up her kid, its what narcissists do. There are perfectly legal ways of fucking your kids up too. Sane, well adjusted people see SJWs and feminists for what they are.

I've pointed out plenty of ways the right has legitimized horrible shit in government so its not just a left problem. Like this is any worse then a kid being born in a religious cult like the Westboro Baptist Church. The right and religion is just a blue pill as the left.

[–]Quo210 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I think hearing the horrible stories of people being raised by mentally disturbed parents is less worrying than witnessing the government systematically and brutally abusing children.

[–]LeadVitamin13 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Again not new, what about all the Catholic priests that molest children and are simply relocated, most of them don't see any jail time when they should be hanged. Most religious fundamentalism is seen as freedom of speech and religion.

I'd be most red pill men identify as libertarian yet when they see something they deem as wrong, and I agree it is, they want the government to intervene.

I feel awful for the dad but he shouldn't have stuck his dick in crazy. Guess this is what happens when beta soyboys actually do get a feminist pregnant.

[–]chaseemall 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You are more likely to be molested by a public school teacher, than a Catholic priest.

[–]LeadVitamin13 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They actually get punished for it though.

[–]chaseemall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed, the complicity of the Church hierarchy is inexcusable.

But the reason the media has a field day with the Catholic church is because, historically, the Church has been one of the most staunch anti-liberal orgs in the world.

[–]1Imperator_Red 12 points13 points  (14 children)

Compares raising child to be religious to raising child to believe it is the wrong gender —> loses all credibility

[–]Batmanforreal2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You Americans are seriously fucked. How the fuck is this shit even possible?! I would murder that hoe before shit like this happens to me.

[–]SKRedPill 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I must quit the media asap. It'll make me think that this country (and most of the world) consists of retards and little else. And maybe that's not too exaggerated either :)

[–]Andgelyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s why it’s fuck the world from now on.

[–]LtCrunchy 7 points8 points  (2 children)

This is insane.

Equally insane is how young these boys are being targeted. Until recently I worked as a meditation guide in Los Angeles and some of the girls working there were SO excited about a TWO YEAR OLD BOY who "said he wanted to be a girl" -- and the boy's parents were already getting him ready for transition.

TWO.

The ladies were mortified when I strenuously objected, calling it child abuse. Thought never crossed their minds.

Was fired a few days later.

[–]lukkassu 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nobody should be taking any of this seriously below 12 years old at an absolute minimum.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Two years old is nuts. Heck, I remember in elementary school around 6 years old, I probably did stupid stuff like eating glue. Yet people think those same 6 year old kids should be making decisions about what gender they should be for the rest of their lives.

When you are that young, you don't even have a true grasp on the types of food you should be eating. It's up to your parents to choose food for you.

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[–]Modredpillschool[S,M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please don't violate reddit's TOS.

[–]Modredpillschool[S,M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please don't violate reddit's TOS.

[–]luzarius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is one of the many reasons I abandoned Democrats. No offense to Democrats here, but your guys side has been compromised by insane leftists. The sooner you get that under control the better. My advice to Democrats is to disavow and condemn the far left. Democrats have always traditionally and politically center right, rational & logical, the sooner you return to that, the better IMO.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 19 points20 points  (7 children)

This is terrible on the face of it, and there aren't many people (myself included) who think horomone therapy is a good idea for minors.

Rather than accept this at face value and sit here stroking my justice boner over it, I really dug in to research for myself the available information about the case.

I found several markers that the story being circulated is incomplete and propagandized.

  • The same basic article is rehashed on right wing propaganda sites like Breitbart, who have destroyed their credibility with me by repeatedly running headlines contradicted by their own body text and facts publicly available elsewhere. Many of the instances of the story on the internet are computer generated content. I found no live interviews with any of the parties.
  • No mainstream news sources reporting this story, not even a local FOX affiliate in Texas.
  • Questionable claims in the narrative, like a court finding the father innocent [sic.] Courts NEVER find a person innocent.
  • The legal documents are preliminary and interim hearings, not final judgements. The bulk of them consist of boilerplate divorce and custody verbiage that isn't specific to this case.
  • The temporary restraining order hearing struck 2-1/2 of the 3 requests regarding the Father's involvement with the school (P.43 of the SaveJames PDF)
  • The permanent restraining order hearing was scheduled for 9/11/18; nobody is reporting the outcome of this
  • No new information about the case published after the 8/30 TRO filing

My conclusion: This case didn't go far in court, but people with an agenda are reporting this as though it achieved actual legal traction and milking it to forment outrage over a failed legal maneuver by a crazy woman and her crazy therapist.

If this case is still active, I'd be interested to learn the facts and modify my conclusions accordingly. I feel for the Father and hope the final judgement will correct the financial injustice imposed in the preliminary stages of the case. But... I'm not willing to participate in an outrage party that cherry picks the facts of the unfolding case.

ETA: Don't linger on the savejames page. I came back in to my laptop lagging with the fan roaring on high, the idle tab was using a lot of processor and over 4gb and climbing of memory.

[–]MoDuReddit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It does smell fishy, regarding the publications.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

If you have time, here are the docs:

http://savejames.com/court-documents/

I'm sure it's public record if somebody wanted to query the court. Since the hearing was 9/11 I'm not that surprised we haven't heard updates. Often motions and rulings will have 60 days for others to respond. Courts move slowly.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I made time, and read everything available. Most of the people commenting on this story everywhere and passing along the propagandized version appear to have skipped that step. 9/11 --> 11/29 is more than 60 days.

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.

And Brandolini's Law:

The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The initial filing does appear to back the story. Whether the outcome is in his favor or not is still up for grabs, but that's in the title "might."

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Anyone can file a BS lawsuit or meritless legal claim. I'm agnostic on the implications of this case (victory for radical trans activists, defeat for masculinity) until it is actually adjudicated.

Rooting for the father and son in the mean time.

[–]3itiswr1tten 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, read any Complaint in any civil matter, family law or not, it's wild and grandiose accusations with zero proof. That's just how Complaints are.

[–]Platos_slow_brother 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not secret on TRP that feminism has been on a war path to remove power and agency from men.

The quarantine line at the top of this page being one example near at hand. They are easing you into a ban but fear the optics of doing it all at once.

[–]whats_the_deal22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Is there any way we can help this man? I mean fuck I've never been the protesting kind of person but this is the sort of thing that should see people outside the courthouse demanding justice.

[–]Sara_Solo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Here's a white pill for you guys: we're in the thick of it when it comes to this transgender hysteria. It will get better in the not-too-distant future. The next generation will laugh at us and compare this hysteria to the lobotomies of the 50s and the religious hysteria over satanists in the 80s. And there will be a lot of sadness over what we allowed to happen.

The problem we are having now is that after decades of activism, progressives are running out of people to make equal and protect from discrimination. Before, it was blacks, women, atheists, gays. Now it's transgenders and other gender stuff. What's next though? What are their pet projects now that could take center stage in the future? Pro-disability activism, pro-pedophilia activism, pro-prostitution activism, and pro-obesity activism. Look at the trend. The activism gets smaller and smaller. Less and less necessary--it's unsustainable for a multi-billion dollar industry that dominates our domestic political discourse. This post-equality activism is perpetuated by the desire to do good where there is no necessity for such to be done and so it is inevitable that in order for this to come to an end this type of narcissistic activism must become a threat to society.

There truly aren't very many people who were meant to be the opposite gender--personally, I put the statistic at around 0.5%. What there is a lot of though are people who express themselves at times in ways that don't conform to gender stereotypes. The tomboy girl who wears basketball shorts and plays ball. The momma's boy who was raised to be sensitive and caring. The guy who liked acting and theater. There's even a lot of people who were born with features that don't fit the stereotypes. The short guy. The tall girl. The hairless guy with a small dick. The flatchested girl with facial hair. All of these attributes are being weaponized in a desperate effort to create a base for whom to advocate for.

But when you apply this to children you're pretty much ensuring that some will adopt transgenderism for the wrong reasons. Children are malleable and easily inspired/persuaded by their parents and teachers. There's a reason why ISIS were able to swiftly create fighters out of the children whose parents they had killed. What if simply exposing children to sexual ideology was enough to infect them--like a virus? Notice how the studies looking into this are being blocked and suppressed as with Bath Spa and Brown Universities respectively. These cowards know that what awaits to be uncovered will deal a fatal blow to the activism industry by exposing them as fools that pushed for the sterilization of children, perhaps, through their desire to do good on the outside, but in reality due to their desire to feel good on the inside. And 5-15 years from now when the studies do finally come to fruition and make their way into court precedent and school policies...hopefully fake activism will be dead for many generations.

[–]alphabachelor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Transgendered children are like vegan cats.

We all know who’s making the lifestyle decisions.

[–]NikolaGeorgiev 6 points7 points  (1 child)

A leftist in 2010: Relax, bigot. It's not like the state is going to take your son and make him gay.

2018:

[–]avengerofhusayn 16 points17 points  (12 children)

This reminds me of the case of John Money. Where an extremely decorated “gender expert” in the 70s or 80s, was convinced via his own malformed intuition, that all gender was culturally/socially created.

He convinced parents of a child with a botched circumcision to raise the child as a girl to prove his point. He performed all sorts of weird experiments on the kid and his brother, ostensibly in order to cause the kid to self-identify as female.

Anyway the kid’s brother ended up schizophrenic as an adult and also later committed suicide. The kid himself was convinced he was male and repeatedly pressed his parents on this point, until at the age of 13 his parents revealed the truth of what had happened. He then took several surgeries to transition over back to being male.

Either way he didn’t make it, probably because of psychological trauma. He was married to a woman at a certain point, but the relationship didn’t work out due to his traumas/insecurities and he also ended up committing suicide.

Ultimately I think it’s extremely funny that that Money fellow was so decorated and socially esteemed. He was a university professor, I think. But upon close inspection the guy was totally retarded and perhaps evil. It makes you wonder what we do today that we consider to completely normal and acceptable, but upon close inspection, really isn’t. (Hint: extramarital sex (AKA zināʾ) is a complete sin and we should avoid it like the plague because it produces people like Elliot Rodger. Contraception is also evil, thank you.)

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 24 points25 points  (2 children)

He performed all sorts of weird experiments on the kid and his brother,

That's putting it lightly. He made them watch porn. He made them get naked and inspect each others' bodies. He made them simulate sexual positions.

It was straight up child abuse.

[–]MoDuReddit 10 points11 points  (0 children)

WTF.

[–]CensorThis111 7 points8 points  (2 children)

He was a university professor, I think. But upon close inspection the guy was totally retarded and perhaps evil.

Welcome to why having an absolute respect for peer reviewed journals and academic institutions is retarded.

The pursuit of science should be everyone's priority - but news flash - the ego-addled idiots responsible for gatekeeping our 'science' are often majorly corrupt, and often escape accountability.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 12 points13 points  (1 child)

(Hint: extramarital sex (AKA zina) is a complete sin and we should avoid it like the plague because it produces people like Elliot Rodger. Contraception is also evil, thank you.)

That was otherwise a good post of yours, but that part is a bit random.

[–]MoDuReddit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The group involved in the action is a religious group. Random religion pops up everywhere in their site.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ultimately I think it’s extremely funny that that Money fellow was so decorated and socially esteemed.

Simple: he was there at the right time - in the circles he moved in (progressives in the 70s), his ideas were novel and were compatible with the marxist or marxist-influenced idea of man and everything being a social construct; but not too late to make people realize that what he produced was bogus science of the nastiest sort.

But it gets even worse: the unwavering support of feminists he enjoyed. Here's something I wrote elsewhere regarding that issue:

the most influental figure of German feminism has stated [that men and women are exactly the same] and even written a book about it ("Der kleine Unterschied", i.e. "The Small Difference") where she said that only true difference between men and women were the set of genitals they were born with and everything else was just coming from the way they were raised differently as a consequence. Her awesome case study to bolster that bold claim? David Reimer, I shit you not (the book was written in the 70s). She never renounced what she wrote. Not after Reimer publicly came out as an unwilling guinea pig for "Dr." Money's human experiment, not after he committed suicide. And while she was a controversial figure in Germany ("because the patriarchy hates me!" not literally, but her statements can be summed up as such), she wasn't a fringe figure or an outlier in the movement.

And this was by the way second wave feminism, i.e. the sort that even those who are critical of the modern day tumblrina-feminism still consider to be of the "good" sort. So no, even back then, feminism wasn't merely about equal job opportunities, fair representation in the media etc. but a whole slew of other shit as well.

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[but] It gets worse; because feminist perspectives like these were unquestioningly accepted and repeated as gospel by progressive media. Take for example this magazine, a well-reputed and popular moderately left wing and liberal (liberal in the European sense) weekly, which was (still is) quite influential here. Well, this was what it wrote in 1984 (remember, at that point David Reimer was already living as a boy for 4 years) in an article about the malleability of gender (clumsy translation inc):

Physicians from the Johns Hopkins University even turned a unique boy into a girl. The unfortunate child had undergone circumcision with an electric device (which had worked just fine with her identical twin brother) and the penis has been charred by a power surge. At 17 months, the mutilated genitalia were changed surgically.

The parents raised the child as a girl from now on, and came to the conclusion it was more delicate, less wild and more vain, just simply girlier than the brother. The scientists, who had the unique opportunity to draw comparisons with the twin brother, saw an unchanged but small remnant of masculine behavior in the character of the child. But as they had predicted, by far the flexibility of the human material prevailed: growing up, the artificial Girl felt like a girl - and everybody took her for one.

tl;dr: It's official, gender is a social construct! Put a boy into a dress and raise him like a girl and he'll also for all intents and purposes be one! This was in a mainstream journal.

Now you may ask why did they do it? Well, in that case I simply have to point you to the feminist (Alice Schwarzer) who wrote that book and that way disseminated her biased knowledge of the case throughout Germany; and apparently her account (or that of Dr. Money) was never questioned and taken as fact, despite her having every reason in the world to omit any deviation from her narrative (which she also did, as I said).

[–]nobias00 3 points4 points  (0 children)

John Money.

Thats the problem with throwing out REAL religion and CULTURE. I'm not religious in the normal sense but because of it's absence, people have gone WILD and thus, mental illness arises, people like E Rodger are produced. It will only continue as shitty social media is perpetuated. I bet even one day, reddit with have profile pictures

[–]JeanetteAlvarez 1 point2 points  (1 child)

extramarital sex (AKA zina) is a complete sin and we should avoid it like the plague because it produces people like Elliot Rodger

It's not extramarital sex that produces Elliot Rodger. It's raising boys to be weak that produces Elliot Rodger.

Here's a great breakdown on Elliot Rodger's mindset https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f6TAoo1lLI

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[–]tempolaca 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I did exactly this. Well not that much money, but have enough.

You will always want a LTR, no matter how much pussy you slay, you are genetically predisposed to it, can't fight it.

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[–]kagetsuki32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just date them for 1 or 2 years then eject.

[–]kagetsuki32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Men power is commitment, never commit and you'll rule. Commit and have a kid with a gal that have a say on the kid education, and you are a bitch.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

C) If one desires children, use your resources to get a surrogate and pay for nannies, teachers, nurses and whatever else needed to raise the child.

What makes you think removing a mother won't fuck up a kid just like removing a father?

[–]lukkassu 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Single Mothers typically (not always) exert vast negative influence on children, rearing weak boys and damaged girls.

Good Single Fathers remain objective and cultivate their children with their resources (time, affection, discipline, education, possibly hired help)

Bad single fathers certainly exist, but a man's tendency towards logic over emotional solipsism gives him far greater theoretical potential as a single parent.

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[–]buttgoogler 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is tragic.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is crazy.

Parents don't allow their kids to get tattoos because kids are too young to make such a permanent decision. Chemical castration is 1000x more serious.

The suicide attempt rate among transgender persons ranges from 32% to 50%. Parents who push/encourage their kids to become transgender should be aware of what they are setting their kids up for.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This story really caught my attention last night. Like: "WHAT THE FUCK, I NEED A SHOT AND SOME VALIUM" kind of attention.

Let me dog whistle the Blue Pill with another story about my sons. I woke up my 10 year old to tell him the story last night. The first thing he said was: "You woke me up to tell me that story?" I told him: "I just need you to tell me what you think about it." He said, "Dad, its obviously crazy, are you on drugs or something?" I hugged the guy thanking him for my sanity and told him that all the comments around the story I read were in favor of the Transgender mom and I thought I was losing my mind. He put his hand on mine and said reassuringly: "Dad, you are not crazy. The world has gone crazy." He went back to bed laughing.

Even a 10 year old CHILD sees it clear as day- yet we have a judge ordering the dad that this CHILD cannot be "forced" to wear gender appropriate clothes? What the ever living fuck is going on? A 6 year old obviously does not get to choose his gender and how can a judge order the father to dress him as a girl and not encourage him to dress as a boy when the mother MERCILESSLY and nonstop encourages and coerces this CHILD to dress as a girl.

My son is right. The world has gone batshit insane with this Transgender Insanity. Increasing "big names" are literally enforcing it on us. Twitter bans anybody who dares to incorrectly use a persons desired "pronouns." I am going to be banned because I am calling nobody Zhe. Zhe can go fuck Zhemselves- which is probably bannable as being hetero-normative cis-gendered.

WHY AREN'T GOOD MEN STANDING UP AGAINST THIS INSANITY?

Make no mistake, this transgender thing does not come from the gay guys. It is a direct offshoot- a failed abortion- of FEMINISM. The movements are directly linked by ideology and history. This soul-less ball of cells has grown up into a monstrosity and I ask again:

Where are the men speaking up against this? Where are the protests in front of this judges courthouse? Where are the letters and the emails?

So I guess...the plan is just to sit back and watch it burn?

[–]Freedom__Fighter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is so beyond fucked up

[–]menial_optimist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If that mother wins the case there would only be one thing left to do if it were me. I'd take my son far away and leave the country if needed. This would be in fact to save his life, not out of spite of the mother. I'd send the mother regular updates about the son though. I wouldn't care if I was a wanted criminal, I would know my conscience is clean and the right thing was done.

[–]JayRock379 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This can't be real. I can't believe this. They must have missed the facts our left details out. Could a mother really be that evil ?

[–]lukkassu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She's a woman. Not evil just ruled by her own emotional reality.

[–]2Overkillengine 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My question is how long before the fathers in situations like these realize that their kids would actually be better off in the horrendous abuse and sex trafficking ridden foster care system....and proceed to ensure by whatever means are necessary that the mothers are incapable of even having custody over a bowel movement.

That said....never knock up a feminist/SJW. This is what happens when a man makes that mistake.

[–]bowhunter6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can’t agree with this any harder than I do. I would use any means necessary to prevent this from happening. Any.

[–]Thizzlebot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is sick. A lot of kids have weird stages imagine feeling like a girl for a few months and your parents castrate you. That kids gunna commit suicide before it finishes school.

[–]chaosmech 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If he wanted to put a stop to this insanity he could just claim his son is gender-fluid and that the mother is the one trying to deny the son's sexuality by forcing him to be one gender. I'd love to see the mental gymnastics the feminazis would have to do then.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to live in this area. The thing about Coppell is that it is upper class white, affluent, very conservative but it goes to show how effective propaganda has become on white upper class suburban women who previously were reliable right wing/conservative votes.

Women think/vote on emotion, not logic or reason. So when we get bombarded by the NWO propaganda, women are more likely to react to it emotionally and fall in line.

The goal is to create a divide amongst a traditionally conservative voting bloc and flip these conservative woman into SJW liberals using emotion and fear mongering.

[–]red_philosopher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the newest form of female abuse of power over the parental relationship. That man needs to get a seriously high-caliber lawyer and get all the dirt that he can on that bitch and grind her ass into the earth. There is NOTHING that would keep me from performing the unthinkable were my ex to attempt to interfere with my parental duties to this extreme.

Dads Get Mad.

[–]maroonblood94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can’t believe this is in my home state of Texas. Last place I’d expect that. Guess nothing surprises me anymore. Sickening.

[–]jakesonreddit[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Devastating for father and son. Mom needs serious help. She's probably passed the point of no return... just save the kid.

[–]Thor-Loki-1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't see this mentioned, and it's important.

The Pediatrician who made the diagnosis: IT WAS HIS MOTHER.

THE SAME ONE WHO WANTS TO CUT OFF HIS DICK AND MAKE HIM A "FEMALE".

And...she's the only one who's done the diagnosis.

Can you fucking put yourself in his father's shoes. How absolutely horrifying and depressing.

Keep men to be men, and stay strong in heart, mind, and soul.

[–]HeyDontDoxMe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like I gotta save a few tens of thousands to clone a Boba Fett of myself in China in a couple decades.

Screw co-parenting. Single parenthood all the way.

[–]PFCX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sick and disgusting. This won’t come to fruition or last in America. Also this is why we look for red flags in women we marry or birth with.

[–]kagetsuki32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You guys should read this http://redefininggod.com/the-rockefeller-plan-for-the-brics-new-world-order-in-their-own-words/ it may explain why what's going on is happening.

[–]TylerDurdenHimself 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is fucking disgusting, what has this world come to.

[–]Gorech1ld 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is some sick shit. This is truly fucking sick shit.

He is undergoing “social transitioning” therapy to prepare him for chemical castration at age 8

Look at this fucking shit. Say what you want about the Christians and their gay shock therapies, at least they never went so far as to fucking CASTRATE their own fucking kids. This kid is a victim of state response misandry at this fucking point.

[–]RepulsiveSkill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's appropriate to have a discussion with your child/potentially seek therapy if the child brings up to the parent feeling like they might be a different gender. Most of the time that would happen because they happened across information about being transgender and don't really understand what that means, hence the discussion. Sometimes children actually do have the feelings and it's important to talk about it with them because most of them will grow out of it and those that don't at least deserve come therapy to figure out how to handle it.

This case is so disturbing and as a woman it seriously enrages me that a mother would do this to her child. Child transition SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN. Children aren't mature or fully developed and should never be able to make life altering decisions like chemically sterilizing themselves or receiving surgeries that literally mutilate their bodies. The way that the mother is attacking the father, even getting a restraining order that prevents him from entering the town she lives in, is so absolutely disgusting. This man is trying to protect his MALE twins and it is so awful that he is being forced not only to go along with it, but to pay for it as well. I pray everyday that some conservative, decent lawyer will hear about Jeff's case and take it up pro bono, as money seems to be one of the biggest reasons he isn't able to fight this more.

[–]SwagnumMagnum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well tbh, if your six year old boy wants to be a sissy... There's not much you can do about it. He might just have the sissy gene. At 6 most boys are concerned with their favorite cartoon or comic book character. Maybe pwning other fellow kiddies on fortnite or minecraft. The alpha boys are gearing up for their first contact football season.

That's most normal six year Olds. This kid sounds like just a weirdo. Yes, kids can be fucking weirdos to. The mother sounds week and very millennial scum. These people should not breed. You should need a license to breed. We have licenses for cars and guns... Why not breeding.

What will probably happen, is this kid will be a little sissy bitch. And he'll have a terrible time come puberty. Or... Not. I mean kids don't even bully anymore, so he'll probably be accepted.

This is the modern America. It's weird. It's strange. It's fucked. Avoid if feeasble.

[–]xerotolerance879 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So the father is “abusing” his son by telling James who he is while the mother isn’t by forcing him to be a girl? Seems like this is how our society has turned out, sad.

[–]MoDuReddit 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I'd like to point out the referenced site SaveJames.Com includes the following nugget of stupidity:

HOW YOU CAN HELP:

PRAY!!! SEE PRAYER LINK FOR INTERCESSORY PRAYER RESOURCE.

When a rich woman, backed by crazy judges and bad laws, come to destroy a child's life, what can you do?

Sit a in room doing nothing, whispering to the magical daddy in the sky.

[–]RunYouJQ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And they say there is no God. Only true metaphysical evil can justify this demonic thinking.

[–]Avskygod0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm honestly supporting impalement as punishment for this kind of bullshit

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[–]2dox 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Someone please give me this link

[–]1Imperator_Red 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s literally the first thing in the post.

[–]AlexDr0ps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is gonna be my new go to when arguing with a liberal that they are messed up in the head

[–]zyqkvx 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is there a gofund me for this man? I don't see one. My advice is everyone go donate $5 before even thinking about it. You can donate more later if it's still on your mind. My style is to drop $5 every once in awhile to wikipedia, doctors without borders (once) and other no brainers. It makes things work, and I get satisfaction that my donations aren't going to some lie.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would hold off for now. Let's get some verification on this story.

[–]RepostGhostCst2Cst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So don't play the game. Don't get married. Don't have children. Society is going to crumble. Don't feed it. Just stand back and watch

[–]JonathanMekerset[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What the fuck

It’s time for war

[–]brokenB42morrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am I the only one that thinks it's not safe to have children in america?

[–]havelbrandybuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This boy will kill himself in his teens due to the abuse of his mentally ill mother.

[–]Mojiitoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to be sure, how credible is this source? Not from US.

Like, if this is for real its sickening, however dont forget to be critical because this is your classic propoganda hit piece.

[–]Frontestgecko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Newspeak like gender and the other litany of profanities peddled by these pedophiles is clearly being used here for its intended purpose. Namely to control people’s minds and enable things like this to take place.

Most of these advocates are under the thrall of ancient and fundamentally non human forces and impetus. They pose a danger and a risk to society and when enabled, such as in the case, leads to the dissolving of the human psyche and of society as a whole.

[–]rishiarora 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we start a go fund me for the Father

[–]insidedynamite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Age 8 is too early. Usually they started hormone blocker at around age 15

[–]BeornPlush 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus H Christ, he's six.

I couldn't reliably be arsed to state my favorite dessert at 6. As was stated elsewhere, his parents' opinions and attitudes have way more sway on his take than he does himself. Doesn't invalidate he may become T one day, but at six??!

[–]Throwaway_Old_Guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was my comment on what I believe is the first post on this subject on men's rights three days ago.

What needs to happen here is for a completely independent assessment be done.

Kid goes away for a week, no contact with either parent and is observed. Give him the options to do boy/girl let him do what he does, and at the end of it ask him how he enjoyed it.

No leading questions, just did you enjoy having fun?

Let him lead this, it's his life. If Mom continues to insist, then deal with her and the therapist.

The very idea that an 6 year old can make a cognizant decision on something this complex and life altering, is preposterous.

Edit to correct age.

[–]specklemouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Must be California. I was accused of abuse for cutting of the TV. You cannot win so you must not play.

[–]ZachMeadows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am honestly speechless... If this is true I really hope she gets what she deserves and that the kid will be fine.

As a father I see a lot of kids boys and girls when I drop off mine, and I love talking to them. You really how education plays a part in a little kid thoughts, and I always try and encourage to think for themselves, even a little.

I'm gonna have a bad day now.

Edit: I removed the hate inducing sentence... I haven't had my first cup of whiskey yet.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a fucking disgrace. They’ve gone too far this time. The mother is the fucking psycho in this situation and the one abusing her child. How the fuck is the courts agreeing with that bitch???

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are we going to reach a point where that child is chemically castrated against his will?

[–]magx01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's always tuning boys into girls. Hardly ever the reverse. It's so obviously a socially reinforced dogma rather than a reflection of a biological reality. And the irony is, it's child abuse yet he is the accused abuser for trying to stop her abusing the kid.

Modern western society is infected with a disease right now and I am not sure if it will recover.

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