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To me these are some green flags:

  • Girlie
  • Doesn't need alcohol/drugs to have fun
  • Has hobbies
  • Good relationship with parents, especially dad
  • Takes care of her body
  • Respectful to service workers
  • Has her place/room clean and organized
  • Knows how to cook
  • Has goals
  • Knows how to flirt with you
  • Doesn't spend too much time on social media or binge-watching Netflix
  • Good sense of humor
  • Optimistic
  • Knows how to cope with emotions in a healthy way

I know the perfect woman doesn't exist, but if she has a combination of at least 4 of these green flags I'd consider to upgrade her to a LTR. What are other green flags?

[–]NoAARPforMe 140 points141 points  (18 children)

Pretty basic list. I would expect 12/14 to consider a LTR.

Financial responsibility is huge. Passionate.....

[–]nofilmynofucky 86 points87 points  (11 children)

Lol 95% of women would fail that requirement

[–]Luftiwaffe 88 points89 points  (6 children)

98% of males fail women's requirement list

[–]nofilmynofucky 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Hey you're not wrong my man

[–]3chazthundergut 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Requirement for what? To fuck?

It isn't nearly as difficult as you might think. Be around, dont be needy, grab your nuts and act like a man.

If I can do it, so can you. Believe me. And I'm not even close to top 2%

[–]BewareTheOldMan 7 points8 points  (1 child)

All...except Chad, Tyrone, and Rico Suave as these men have no stipulation for requirements - especially if they're the worst type of losers in any way, shape, or form.

These guys easily make a young woman's list..right up until the point they need a Beta-Provider.

[–]omega_dawg93 13 points14 points  (0 children)

hypergamy + da wall approaching = the woman who shows you more IOI's after SHE makes 28 yo.

but again... no need to get mad about it. AWALT.

men date around until they find someone worth a commitment, and women have the same right too. the problem is... men have to work HARD to go thru a few women while women can ride the cock carousel freely & wildly for YEARS & YEARS.

endless amounts of cock... as much as they desire.

but you can't know about it... so they lie, deceive, manipulate, blame shift, etc. this is where being game aware and aware of the TRUE NATURE of women becomes handy. society at-large (and women themselves) used to 'police' female behavior: no kids out of wedlock, no divorce, no cheating, no wild $$$ spending. but that's all over now... it's a free-for-all and men are the tools. "you go girl," and "what he doesn't know won't hurt him," is just how it is.

KNOW THE SIGNS of a damaged woman.

KNOW the games they play.

pick the best apple you can find out of the barrel... they are all in the barrel... and chad , tyrone, and rico have all dna blasted their vaginas. AWALT.

[–]NewNombreWhoDis 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Well that’s because it is:

Must be 6’4” or taller

Must have chiseled cheekbones, perfect eye shape, dominating jaw, and basically model-like features

Must earn $300k+ a year

Those are things that nature/society has made scarce. You can just “choose” to fix them.

[–]omega_dawg93 6 points7 points  (0 children)

a woman's list changes with her emotions and her needs.

the list is fluid, constantly under scrutiny by her, her closest friends, and her mom. and right when you think you're at a point to put a check mark for a completed requirement, she'll change it because...

well, just because. why not?

but here's the most important: you better NOT be a mama's boy. i won't go into detail, but women view men like men view screwdrivers & hammers = tools. women often raise their sons to be mama's boys to insure he's always there for her... esp. if she plans to run-off dad.

somebody has to protect her, put the garbage out, mow the lawn, put up with her bs. and some wives don't like you giving your time to another woman... even your own mom.

[–]NoAARPforMe 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Maybe. But just think how good that 5% might be...good LTR possibilities. Remember you are the prize.

[–]nofilmynofucky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely true.

[–]Heizenbrg 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Plenty of guys myself included aren't that great with money..

[–]nofilmynofucky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

... and that's one point on the list. I'm talking about the majority of the items

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Currently dating a girl with 11.5/14

And one is she doesn’t clean her room

Which I don’t care about

Close enough

[–]imtheoneimmortal 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Next her

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Nexted her

[–]Foutaises- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That didn’t take long

[–]Beachbum74 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I ignored that too. Later found out she had OCD but problem finishing tasks. Long story ending in divorce rape

[–]Pistolius 17 points18 points  (0 children)

that escalated quickly

[–][deleted] 166 points167 points  (10 children)

I can’t speak for your city/part of the world but a girl who isn’t plugged in to social media that’s really hot is a tall order in today’s world.

Rest of the list is solid though.

[–]matt675 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I've seen it a number of times, it definitely exists

[–]chaconuts 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I know a girl who got rid of her social media after we started talking

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

How was the wedding?

[–]chaconuts 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honestly it's going great

[–]send_it_for_the_boys 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If that existed that’d be considered a gold flag

[–]OfficerWade 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. You gotta play the field and women who know the game won’t be removing themselves from all availability.

[–]jackandjill22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what I was going to say if you're looking for perfection sure. But realistically this probably doesn't exist in that way.

[–]thetetrahedron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dated a girl like that. Unfortunately the interest in her part wasn't mutual.

[–]Magnum994 94 points95 points  (1 child)

There is only one green flag, non existence of red flags. Why spend wasting time looking for green ones instead of red ones? In the end you’ll find so many green ones that you’ll only use them to rationalize the red ones.

[–]livear 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This. Everyone has some great qualities.

You need to look out for the landmines that will blow your relationship up, they are marked with red flags.

[–]teeekuuu 40 points41 points  (0 children)

All of those are just basic qualities in a healthy person, male or female...

Only 4 of those should not suffice, at least for nothing more than a ONS imo.

[–]006rbc 43 points44 points  (6 children)

Haven't come across a girl that isn't addicted to social media

[–]DownyGall 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Always gotta get the right instagram. “Im not a whore!” But proceeds to post bikini pics

[–]006rbc 12 points13 points  (1 child)

If they have a profile that is 90% selfies, good chance they are narcissistic and get their dopamine fix from likes.

[–]DownyGall 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Haha dude I feel like the hoes posting artsy pics may be worse because they’re more surreptitious

[–]Russian_Bot_737 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Many men are this way now a days too... social media is the final poision that will destroy society for good

[–]koedeloe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same.. it's sad.

[–]Peter_B_Long 119 points120 points  (18 children)

God damn my LTR has all these.

A few more I might add:

• Doesn't hang out with mostly guys

• Has close girl friends

• Gets along with her siblings (they don't have to be best friends but as long as they're on speaking terms)

• Splits everything with you 50/50

• Is open to new sexual experiences, tries to please you.

• All her co-workers and friends know about you (means she's invested).

• She's open to try new things for you like go see your type of music or see your favorite movies

• Clingy enough where it's cute and you feel wanted but not enough to where it's overwhelming and annoying

• Ask your permission or your opinion on things that don't involve you.

• Gives you her suggestion / opinion on things but is ok with you choosing against it.

[–]baeslick 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Great addition to the list, this shows mutual respect and she is willing to give you the chance to reject her, which shows established trust and a chance to create deeper emotional connections, integral to any healthy relationship.

And great job finding someone that fits this description, something we all strive for, one of the "good" ones

[–]3chazthundergut 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I almost don't want a girl like this.

You think I want to look down and see some good girl gagging with mascara running down her face?

Give me the sluts and validation whores. The neurotic harpies and chicks with daddy issues.

You can keep the good wholesome ones

[–]Russian_Bot_737 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Men who are looking for the potential mother of their children, rather than soulesss hedionism, will take and possibly keep the good wholesome ones.

I’ve been there and done that. Personally i find if meaningless, empty, and too risky for my tastes anymore (false rape accusations, STDs, unwanted pregnancies)

[–]3chazthundergut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fair enough.

To each his own

[–]returnofthemackX 1 points1 points [recovered]

Do you want kids?

[–]3chazthundergut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not yet

[–]ANAL_SAILBOAT 12 points13 points  (0 children)

• Ask your permission or your opinion on things that don't involve you.

so much this

[–]Tuplad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

• Has close girl friends

Quality of these is very important. Also dynamics: is she only keeping ugly girls around? Are those girls very loose but she's "not like that"?

[–]Wodiboy 4 points5 points  (4 children)

God damn my LTR has all these.

A few more I might add:

• Doesn't hang out with mostly guys -> so you aren't allowed to hang out with girls?

• Has close girl friends -> you have to have close male friends?

• Gets along with her siblings (they don't have to be best friends but as long as they're on speaking terms) -> are you getting along with yours?

• Splits everything with you 50/50 -> you do the same?

• Is open to new sexual experiences, tries to please you. -> are you trying to please her to?

• All her co-workers and friends know about you (means she's invested). -> of you meet a cute girl, are you telling her you've got a gf? Even if she's interested in you?

• She's open to try new things for you like go see your type of music or see your favorite movies -> did you ever watched one romantic comedy with her?

• Clingy enough where it's cute and you feel wanted but not enough to where it's overwhelming and annoying -> are you showing the same?

• Ask your permission or your opinion on things that don't involve you. AND ARE YOU ASKING FOR FUCKING PERMISSION TO DO SOMETHING? LIKE WTFFFFFF SHE DOESN'T BELONG YOU!

• Gives you her suggestion / opinion on things but is ok with you choosing against it. -> are you OK with it too? Or has she Di what you say?

I'm not a native speaker, tried my best

[–]Peter_B_Long 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks for your response. I guess I need to explain more on my points.

Doesn’t hang out with mostly guys. I meant when you first meet her or when you’re plating her, her main social groups consist of mostly guys. In some cases where she’s the only girl in the friend group. This is a red flag.

Has close girl friends. This one is important. If she doesn’t have any close friends, then it’s a red flag. If even her gender can’t be around her, then you’re going to have a bad time.

The rest of the points you’re just asking if I reciprocate the same actions or feelings. You don’t seem to know what a healthy red pill relationship is.

[–]Wodiboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So help me please. What's a healthy red pill relationship.

[–]mastersao 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why do you think the same conditions for a woman would apply to a man? Each has a diferent role.

Thats one of the basic red pill principles, there are intrinsic diferences between men and women.

[–]Wodiboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I think me and my gf are different but equal. Please name the ones which are not for men. I want a partner on the same level. Neither a slave to pleasure me nor a mother to cook and clean after me. I'm 100 % sure u would kill for my relationship. Again, not a native speaker.

[–]TatumBetterFultz 8 points9 points  (2 children)

“Ask your permission or your opinion on things that don’t involve you” is more of a control freak beta thing to have in the list my dude

[–]Peter_B_Long 24 points25 points  (1 child)

You don't demand for her to seek approval or permission. You don't give a fuck what she does but she still checks if it's ok with you. It's more she seeks your approval / opinion.

[–]TatumBetterFultz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fair enough sounds better when you put it that way

[–]ddf804 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll disagree on "Has close girlfriends" being a good thing, beyond a certain point. If her girlfriends are more important & permanent in her life than you are, it can feel like YOU are the intrusion. Been there,but I've got a gal now who hits almost all the OP's list, including no social media, and I actually prefer that her girlfriends seem few and not super-close. It makes her seem focused on me, in a good way.

[–]alphabachelor 41 points42 points  (1 child)

I like threads like this.

We know bad women exist. But its great to be reminded that there’s actually some great women out there, too.

[–]Russian_Bot_737 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I second this.

[–]chomponthebit 17 points18 points  (0 children)

  • no tattoos;
  • no fucked up piercings (including clit & nipples);
  • has held a job for more than two years;
  • at least a bachelor’s or two-year tech diploma;
  • pretty, feminine, charming, enhances my presence, adventurous in and out of bed

[–]egwuatu 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Does not actively bad-mouth her exes

[–]El_Supergringo 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Underrated addition

[–]basedgrizzly 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I agree with your list. To me, if a girl doesn’t have social media that’s a huge green. Rare, but if she doesn’t have any sexual experience, that’s a green if you are looking for LTR.

[–]CDBaller 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Not involved in the military or a male-dominated field.

Cooks as a hobby.

Crafty or artsy

Has a goal to be a SAHM.

Knows how to stick to a budget.

Asks your permission or advice regularly.

[–]ddf804 2 points3 points  (2 children)

DO NOT let them be a SAHM. I pay the price for allowing that, every month :/

[–]Russian_Bot_737 3 points4 points  (1 child)

What do you mean? You pay the price in terms of well-adjusted kids who aren’t abused by ghetto monsters who create psychopaths to the tune of 3K a month?

[–]infamous3238 1 point2 points  (0 children)

More like you pay the price when she fucks the plumber because she’s sitting around all day with nothing better to do, divorces you for half the money YOU earned while she watched cartoons with the kids all day, and the real kicker is you have to pay her alimony forever because her income is zero.

[–]TatumBetterFultz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

  1. Ass

[–]TFWnoLTR 59 points60 points  (5 children)

  • Perky tits

  • Nice round ass

  • Hips wider than waist

  • Has pulse

  • Puts out

  • Not working where I work

  • Disease free

  • Under 6' tall

  • Has all her teeth and keeps them clean

  • Smiles

[–]okuli 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Sex dolls satisfy most of those conditions. They just don't have teeth and no pulse. Gotta make sacrifices.

[–]i_mpossible 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Add dentures and a pacemaker to your sex doll, now you've got teeth and a pulse as well

[–]DownyGall 1 point2 points  (0 children)


[–]Russian_Bot_737 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can see by your name we aren’t talking about the same thing here pal

[–]Wulfwinterr 1 points1 points [recovered]

Snorts when she laughs (which is often) Upbeat and smiles all the time Looks good even when dressed down (pony tail up in baseball hat and still looks gooood) Doesn't take 1-2 hours to get ready to go out Decisive. (I hate "I dunno, what do yoouuu wanna dooo?") Just as happy eating at a 5 star restaurant as she is bowling Drinks beer from a long-necked bottle

[–]okuli 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I also like low maintenance girls.

[–]CDBaller 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You're not going to get a decisive woman for a multitude of reasons. I have a rule: she picks between 3 I have chosen. If she can't, I pick.

[–]Ceroe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sounds like you want a dude

[–]red_matrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most girls are indecisive, they defer decision making to you.

[–]Russian_Bot_737 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed with most, but decisiveness is an inherently masculine quality

[–]bumbuff -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Drinks beer from a long-necked bottle.

Except it tastes like shit from bottles.

[–]-TempestofChaos- 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Glass > Bottles > Cans.

Unless it is an IPA, then can > bottle

[–]bumbuff -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Can's keep beer fresh longer.

[–]-TempestofChaos- 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If the time is 6 months plus or minus a week due to bottles or cans, I am sure nobody cares.

The issue to IPAs in cans is it removes ANY oxidation. Possibly that the acidity leeches some from the aluminum which helps?

Bottles may get oxidized after a long period, but there will be no additional leeching from any metals. It is pure neutral

[–]DebonairD 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I agree op

[–]Toxik6 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I don’t mind a Netflix binger. Still balancing is important

[–]DownyGall 2 points3 points  (0 children)


[–]JerryLawlerPigFace 9 points10 points  (1 child)

  1. easy to make plans with.

  2. Doesn’t have slut friends (this one is huge. You can indirectly see hat kind of person she is by looking at her friends. Don’t buy that whole “oh I’m the grandma of the group” line either. Where there is smoke there is fire.)

  3. A low Snapchat score and low IG follower count. (Incredibly dumb thing to judge by but it’s 2018 and social media is apart of our lives now. The score and follower count shows how much of a validation whore she is or isn’t).

  4. Doesn’t have that “I’m broken, but I’m still here” vibe. Every girl today thinks they’re this broken and battered war veteran who was destroyed by their ex. “He broke me”. It’s very refreshing to find someone who doesn’t carry this woe is me, victim mentality.

[–]slurmfactory 7 points8 points  (4 children)

-tactfully rejects other guys' advances when out.

[–]Russian_Bot_737 0 points1 point  (3 children)

If a guy is hitting on her when you’re present, that’s a problem with you.

Its what happens when you’re not around you should be worried about. If she isn’t keeping you updated in exquisite detail what, for example, aggressive ghetto co-workers say to her after she tells them for the 5th time that week how much she loves her wonderful boyfriend. (Source: personal experience)

[–]slurmfactory 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I mean if you are out and you are not physically with her: example- im playing drums at a gig at a bar, some chad hits on her, she shuts him down (and i watch from stage), also personal experience.

[–]Russian_Bot_737 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Okay I guess I didn't account for very specific situations like that. But I know personally if I'm out with my girl I'm physically next to her.

[–]slurmfactory 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No youre right tho. If guys feel comfortable amog’ing you and hitting on your girl in front of you, you gotta work on your masculine presence. I remember being out with a really hot chick back when i was single, we were in a group and she wasnt my date but i was interested in her for sure, we were in an intense convo ab a mutual friend’s recent fuckups, and these chads came by and were clearly hunting for chicks. She was ignoring them and into our convo, and i saw them take a few looks at her and were likely thinking of swooping in. After the second look (the dude was kinda pacing back and forth) i gave him a solid side-eye and raised eyebrow, while continuing to talk w the broad. He immediately bailed. I wasnt in the mood lol.

Back in my younger more beta days, chads would def try to fuck w me and swoop in when I was with girls. Building your physical presence and confidence (martial arts is massive in this regard) definitely helps a ton. Now honestly no one has tried in many years (im married now but before, when i was single on a wrecking spree of tinderellas it just wasnt even happening. Guys wouldnt waste their time, they look for easy targets.)

[–]christophertracy92 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Bright Triad ; Clarity, Maturity, Stability.

Check "The Tactical Guide to Women" by Shawn T. Smith.

[–]ht2k9 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's the list for LTR, to get married I would say you need to connect with her in some way.

[–]es1426 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I could only see myself really forgoing 4-5 of these for an LTR, and that’s only if she hits the right places in other categories/green flags.

[–]HurricaneHugues 2 points3 points  (2 children)

  • Submits to you

  • Doesn't have many guy "friends" or doens't hang with guy "friends"

  • Has a group of respectable girls as friends, that are equally LTR material as her

  • IS very interested in fucking you

[–]Russian_Bot_737 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What if she has no friends or only 1 or 2 friends that she sees very infrequently (less than 4 times a year)?

[–]HurricaneHugues 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would depend how healthy that is for her. Some can manage it, others will be super super clingy to you.

[–]1byronshadow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

  • Dad is present and is military, farmer, teacher, tradesman, etc.
  • Her apartment is clean(messiness points to mental illness or being allowed to skip chores and sit around being a princess as a child.
  • Religious or culturally-religious. Avoid atheist and new age-y girls who talk about karma and crystals like the plague.
  • Exes are kept at arm’s length.
  • High-quality friends. Birds of a feather...
  • No tattoos or piercings other than earlobe.
  • Interest in the outdoors.
  • Chose a practical major. Accounting instead of women’s studies etc.
  • Bookworm.
  • Likes kids.
  • Doesn’t care about politics.
  • Likes animals but doesn’t impulsively collect them. One cat is a good sign, 6 cats or a large dog living in her studio apartment is a bad sign.

[–]Variasvezes 15 points16 points  (7 children)

Personally i like girls who admit they are whores

Anyone can fake green lights but how many can admit the true?

[–]mikeyp_88 11 points12 points  (2 children)

You forgot about the daddy issues

[–]bigkids 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Dad or Step-Dad?

[–]soadaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why not both?

[–]premeboi 32 points33 points  (2 children)

this ain’t it chief

[–]Variasvezes -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

Yeah pardon me for not being naive enuff to believe in green flags


[–]mattbrah 14 points15 points  (0 children)

If you accept that red flags exist then green flags must exist. You can't have darkness without light.

[–]Russian_Bot_737 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Believe it or not, not EVERY woman is a whore

[–]OfficerWade 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Green flag- she approaches me, asks questions about my hobbies, doesn’t get nervous when I say I had fun talking let’s hang out, etc. basic human interactions are underrated to what most people are used too. I like women who like me just for who i am.

Red flags are women leading you on, telling you what you did is wrong or refuses to work on the relationship and is only focused on you doing things right. Square peg, round hole.

[–]returnofthemackX 1 points1 points [recovered]

Women can’t lead you on, only when you let them ‘lead you on’. This to me says overcommitment.

[–]OfficerWade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right because women aren’t at fault for men taking responsibility for our side of the street. It’s the perspective you see and when you spot it, you got it. So just because we should do the right thing doesn’t make what we’re doing the right thing. There must be someone who says what I’m doing is silly but if you do it with that, THAT attitude, your perspective changes

[–]RRBeachFG2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn I would take three of these traits, prob any three of them...so sad

[–]furcryingoutloud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Too perfect is a crimson flag. Give me some defects. Run from too perfect. Hard.

[–]seedster5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's who I'm getting married to. Best of all. Her N count is 1, me

[–]awalt_cupcake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Careful. I just got out of a fling with a girl who hit every item on this list except the drinking bit. She still leads men on like she's getting revenge. Her nails are starting to look like claws to me. My point is women are waking up to the idea of a "redpilled" woman and taking their form.

[–]gbnz87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Financially responsable, Tidy, doesn't hoard everything, manners, doesn't brag or gloat, patient, doesn't blame their problems on anyone else, not obsessed with politics, knows how to argue, likes animals, not an extreme feminist or environmentalist, have to accept my interests or hobbies and not a drug addict.

No particular order or importance to each one but it's what I look for. I don't think it's too much to ask for and in pretty easy going with a few of them.

[–]Cirrustratus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i also think finding just some of these on a woman is rare. I guess in men its rare too to find some and only green flags too.

[–]PIGamer86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn’t know how to give a good blowjob. If she does, well...

[–]faustian_talos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me also - gives blowjobs.

[–]As-You-Were 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve never really understood the service staff thing - how friendly we talking here?

Add pursuing you to that list. If a girl hasn’t invited me out to do something she’ll forever remain in plate zone.

[–]kylerosa21 -1 points0 points  (0 children)


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