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Have you ever had success being straight-up with a girl and telling them you just want to have sex?

Like, you meet them, exchange numbers, there’s obvious attraction towards you.

Her: Why don’t we go out for coffee

Now say you don’t wanna waste you time with s coffee date and just want to fuck... what would you say?

“Honestly, I just wanna fuck, if we’re not going to do that let’s pass on the date”?


[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev162 points163 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You: "Does coffee count as foreplay?"

You probably aren't going to have that much success with so direct a line unless you happen to hit things just right, but sometimes, it works.

[–]captaintrippay32 points33 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to piggy back off this and say that stating your intentions early works great.

Bad example: "I just wanna fuck girl lmao." Might work with some but it's too blunt for me.

Good example: "I'm open to the idea of a relationship but lately my career has taken off, so I'm just going with the flow." Creates a challenge for her. Can you be tamed/caught? Shows you have ambition. Tells her you're honest, cuz you are. Etc etc

The key is knowing when to say this.

Edit: I don't advocate lying to get into a girls pants, so if you're truly anti LTR than don't say you're open to a relationship. But always give a reason. Too busy, enjoying being single, whatever the fuck.

[–]BluffButt70 points71 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve tried this twice.

One of them I never heard from again. I said it just to say it, didn’t really analyze the situation or watch for IOI or any indication of attraction.

Second girl denied me as well but she stuck around because there was sexual tension that was easily recognizable. She laughed it off with me and said maybe once we get to know each other some more. Good thing with this is that I acted on IOI’s and was direct. It’s risky and most likely will end poorly but if you say it in the right situation it has a chance. Also the night after she texted me asking if I wanted to come over to watch a Netflix series. We fucked. The End

[–]Psychological_Radish48 points49 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You might think saying that sort of thing sounds confident and bold, but it actually demonstrates that you are socially retarded. TRP teaches that women want plausible deniability. Even when I meet girls from Tinder and it is clear we are going to bang, I never outright say that I want to fuck, thereby leaving her a tiny mental escape hatch.

To get away with that level of crudity, you need to have model tier looks or otherwise be way above her SMV.

[–]theprizeandtheaward[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well stated!

[–]smirk_addict 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Even when you agree with the advice people still downvote you....

[–]Musicgoon55 points56 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is the equivalent of sending a unsolicited dick pic by text. It doesn't show social calibration, intellect, creativity, or social proof. You may get one or two girls saying yes, but the rest will think you're a sperg.

Terrible fucking idea.

[–]somebullshitrp16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. When you try to skip steps and jump ahead in the game, women will get turned off.

Keep in mind that the game is what women are interested in, far more than just sex. If they want to just fuck you, they will bring it up themselves.

[–]cornylamygilbert0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

this totally applies to me. I need to learn all these steps you speak of.

I've failed myself in the past by being too blunt or thirsty.

I've misinterpreted escalation as aggressive / blunt

[–]CanYouEvenCount51 points52 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can work to some degree on nights out, but I would be cautious using it over text

[–]1atticusfinch197350 points51 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

It will only work if they have already decided they are going to fuck you. Which likely hasn't happened if they haven't even met you.

God tier SMV guys could get away with this. You can't.

[–]ding-dong-diddly-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Happens all the time on tinder

[–]3chazthundergut18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you want to be super direct, just invite her back to your place for drinks. She knows the jig, and you don't come across as completely autistic.

[–]TheGillos33 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"why don't we go out for coffee?"

"Why waste our money? I have a perfectly good coffee machine in my bedroom"

[–]Andgelyo17 points18 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

You would be a fucking retard to say that straight up to a girls face without knowing her. Seriously, don’t be socially autistic. Imagine you being a girl and some random guy comes up to you and tells you he wants to have sex with you. 95% of the time she would be creeped out, and possibly even call the police. The other 5% is those mega Chad model types and even then it would have to be the right circumstances (drunk in the club, or been talking to her for a while already).

I’ve said this to girls....on tinder. If we match, there’s a 50% chance it works. The other 50% will unmatch or thank me for being honest with my intentions but are not interested. Yes it does work...on tinder, in real life, get ready to meet 5 fingers to the face.

Jesus, the amount of stupid shit I see on askTRP never fails to amaze me. No wonder you guys have trouble with girls. 🤦‍♂️

[–]Dickslapperman420 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao, sure you got 50% succes rate with telling girls on tinder you want to fuck them, get out of here you fucking weeb

[–]Andgelyo0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Do you want me to send you screen shots? Lmao I also got videos of the girls I fucked on tinder, if you wanna jerk off to that

[–]Dickslapperman420 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

YE show me screenshot of 100 girls and you managed to fuck 50 of them, lmfao delusioan ldiot. Not even top tier Male model would have that high of succes rate on tinder, people have tried it and they had like a 5-10% succes rate at most. Fucking videotaping the girls you're fucking? That's illegal as fuck you retard

[–]Andgelyo1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You are incredibly fucking stupid lmao I did not mean that I fuck 50% of my all my matches. I said it to girls, if you shoot your shot you will either be shot down or she would actually entertain the idea. That's what I meant.

Also, you can record the girl you are fucking with permission. Your brain is so underdeveloped, it's almost like I'm arguing with a 5 year old.

And here's proof of what I say to girls, hopefully you'll learn a thing or two and lose your virginity one day.

https://imgur.com/c2qxpvi

https://imgur.com/YZeUhuP

https://imgur.com/EdHpAVH

[–]Dickslapperman420 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao, look at these fucking low value women you are hitting up holy shit. First pic is a black overweight female with some shit filter, 2nd pic is some nerd <5/10 and the 3rd you can't even see her face cause she is so insecure. Holy shit you got problems

[–]Andgelyo2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hey man, at least I’m getting ass and instead of using my hand like you. Everyone should be getting ass from tinder, it’s like level 1 for every guy. The fact that you can’t even get any on tinder says to me you’re below a below average low status man. Whatever floats your boat 🤷‍♂️

[–]Dickslapperman421 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're doing god's work my man, I wouldn't dive that deep into the bottom of the barrel but its nice to see that even the bottom tier gets some love from my fellow red pill man Andgelyo

[–]Andgelyo5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s a dirty job but somebody’s gotta do it lmao I’m working on myself to get higher quality bitches, these are small fries

[–]Ronaldo-CR7-8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It doesn't matter what you say. It matters who says it. The higher SMV you have the more you can get away with.

A homeless guy telling a girl he wants to fuck & Chad telling a girl he wants to fuck are going to be perceived entirely differently.

But again, some girls want to hold off on the pussy cause they don't want it to seem too easy either

[–]MM2Info0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Break rules or make rules...

[–]nakedamerasian 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Tried that on tinder once. She told me "Wtf dude" and that she's not interested. I replied with if she doesn't like honesty and what she expected since I was only there for a few days anyway.

An hour later she said that she wants to get to know better first, gave me her Instagram and that she wanted to meet in the future. Then she said she thanked me for my honesty because not many guys are like that nowadays lol.

TL, DR: in most cases it won't work because you need to build at least a bit of connection/attraction especially when you seem to rush it. ASD and women don't like to feel being pressured. Ofc rationally, being upfront would save both parties lots of time but that's not how the 'game' works usually

[–]MadChestHairYuKnight2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean both of you played your cards well. No one tried to play any games. Good on ya.

[–]Joeboard5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless she is a freak, super kinky, into rando fucks AND you are good looking.. it wont work. And if it does work, id imagine shes been tore the fuck up for years.. some girls will fantasize about this kind of shit, but never go for it irl. (they need trust really..)

Could work with a friend / someone you have SOME history with if you catch her at the right time.

[–]passepar2t4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I haven't, but a girl did cut to the chase with me once.

On first date, me: "So, what do you want to do?"

Her: "I think you know."

Me: "Come on, let's go to your place."

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s called me too movement

[–]Peter_B_Long6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

There's a post that was posted this week on the main sub called "The Rat". Read it.

If you're in the top 10% of men, this might work (numbers game).

BUT, the reason I highly advice against it is PSYCHO'S.

First dates aren't for you to mumble some words together hoping something clicks in her and she decides to fuck (although most men see it this way).

First dates are for you to screen her. Do you really want to invite some stranger over to your house? You want somebody you've never met to know your address?

Do you know what the risk is? What if she cries rape? What if she shows up with Tyrone and they rob your ass?

It only took 1 instance for me to ingrain this rule into my head. Long story short, Plans were for Tinder girl to come straight to my place. We decided last minute to meet up for a quick bite. I ditched the date after 1 beer, blocked her number as soon as I got in my car, and I thanked the Lord for meeting up in a public place last minute.

First dates are for you to screen her for red flags. Make sure she's all there. 15-30 minutes and that's it. If all looks good, ask her then, "Hey. You want sum fuck?"

[–]megaduff3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What did she do to make you 180?

[–]Peter_B_Long7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm reposting from a comment I gave to an askTRP post titled "Ever Get Up and Leave In The Middle of a Date"?

My first Tinder date ever.

I matched with this chick and got her number. We talked on the phone twice to set up a meet and we flirted a little.

I'd invited her over for Mario Kart to which she was down with, but an hour or 2 before our meet up, she asked if we could eat somewhere and that she hadn't ate all day (it was like 3 or 4pm)

She was vegan so I asked if Chipotle was cool and she said yeah.

We met up and I noticed that she was of course not as attractive as her photos. She had big tits but she had a belly that she was covering pretty well. She did have this eye liner w/ black framed glasses thing going which I am into. I was on a dry spell for a few months and I'd just moved to a new state where I had zero prospects so in my head I decided that I'd still try to smash.

We got food but I wasn't really hungry so I just ordered a beer. We both got cups of water. We sat down and she started eating while I sipped on my beer.

She drank all her water and asked if she could have mine. I passed it to her.

A few minutes later I grabbed the cup I'd just given her and took a sip.

She gave me a very serious look, slammed the cup on the table and demanded that I go get her water.

I gave her a puzzled look and said that she could get her own water.

She slammed the cup again and demanded again to get her water.

I told her no and that she was going to have to get up and get her own water.

She angrily gets up, gets water, comes back, and moves her food tray across from me (we were sitting side by side) and begins giving me the silent treatment. Not even looking in my direction.

I laugh it off but begin to question if I want to spend any more time with this girl as I was suspecting she was probably not mentally all there.

I decide to focus on amused mastery and outcome independence.

I try to shift the frame and make it seem like we're over the whole silent treatment stint but she doesn't budge.

I try to make her laugh and she smiles a bit but still giving me the cold shoulder.

I go for trying to play rock paper scissors with her and she flips me off.

At this point I'm no longer having a good time and have lost any interest with pursuing anything sexual with this chick.

As I'm debating if I should debate the date or not, she begins balling up napkins and throwing them at my face.

I calmly grab my stuff, get up, and tell her, "I'm out".

I go to my car and immediately block her number.

To this day I still don't know wtf was wrong with her, and everybody that I tell this story to also has no idea why she acted the way she did, but to be honest, I'm really glad that I met up with her in a public place and didn't bring her over to my place as I'm assuming shit could've gone much worse.

I even gave up on Tinder because of this date but another girl I'd matched with wanted to meet up and I ended up having my first fuck on a first date and that girl became a pretty good plate so I guess that made up for it.

Keep in mind that I'd been dry for like 3 months and had no other prospects so as desperate as one would be in my situation, I still said "fuck this" and walked out.

[–]hopscotchking0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good story. She had a couple screw loose for sure.

[–]creating_my_life1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Channing Tatum could do this. You can't.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Re: Apocalypse game.

Named as such because if the world was about to end, you wouldn't have time to fuck about.

Here's Heartiste on the topic:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/i-tried-the-apocalypse-opener/

[–]BurnieSlander2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Apocalypse game works. But you don’t say “let’s FUCK” you chat her up just a little until there is that first spark of chemistry and then you just say “hey let’s get out of here”. Unequivocal confidence is required though.

[–]Mofis2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can do it but that’s a terrible way of executing it. You should control the plans and come up with something that has a better result of sex.

[–]1HS-Thompson5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It can be done. Though it helps to work on the text seduction element a little. I’ve done pretty well with this approach.

I start by asking them a question, like have you ever knocked on someone’s door that you didn’t know yet, and gone directly to fucking without exchanging a word?

They’ll usually say no.

Then just reply and say “it’s hot” or something similar.

Then you’ll get into a conversation about the topic, and already she’s visualizing what that might be like, how it would feel, and so on. Some girls will never go for it but the vulnerability of that scenario can be intoxicating to women.

I’ve had it work a couple dozen times, and it’s actually how I met most of my long term most successful plates. It works the best on girls that have submissive and little girl tendencies of course, and it helps to know how to handle your role in that. The fear and terror of doing it for her followed by the catharsis of it going well really seems to get them bonded to you.

And of course it’s easy to keep things strictly sex-only when you start there.

[–]ArdAtak1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can imply it without being crass, giving them plausible deniability, and not setting off their ASD. It equally efficient and time saving but much higher success rate.

[–]Thizzlebot1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This would work in person if framed differently. I usually ask if they wanna come over or what ever when the bars close and that works. Just blurting shit out like a caveman won't work majority of chicks because they want plausible deniability

[–]EdgyMcdonuts1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was reading the thread title while taking calls at work just now. I said "Thanks for calling member services, my name is EdgyMcDonuts. How can I fuck?"

[–]theprizeandtheaward[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahahahaha too funny, that made my day! Someone on here with an actual sense of humour, I like you!

[–]fromdario1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Subtly is your friend.

You can say it without saying it directly.

Body language, tone, wording etc all communicate intention.

In a short conversation you can pretty easily tell how down a girl is without throwing it on the table.

Success depends on your SMV, how well you’ve read the situation (context) and your approach at that proposition.

[–]KinkysMT1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One girl I met from tinder (and closed her), told me she unmatch and report guys who send those direct lines on tinder.

[–]RedRealer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've tried this on tinder and almost all cases are no or get to know me better, I had one case where it was a successes.

[–]AceMav210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you can hit her while she’s ovulating you potential success rate goes up 2 or 3x but still is still low at that. You won’t know but you will definitely know. She’ll show you through behavioral cues. The only conflicting thing though is if she on bc, she won’t ovulate.

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Worked on an older woman (37) when i was 22

[–]BeeBopJoe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its has like a 1/100 chance of actually working. Not worth taking that risk.

[–]throwitdownman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Through text, it almost always never works. Of course, unless you’re famous, and have groupies hitting on you, then you can pull out the ol “you tryna get this pipe?”.

I recall it working for me, and that was in a nightclub. I imagine a more subtle strategy works better most of the time.

[–]good-look0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

my nigga always escalate. trust the process homie

[–]Wolveryn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're a good looking man with your shit together, its as simple as it sounds.

If we're talking about asking on Tinder, I think its more socially acceptable to say 'You look cute, wanna come round for wine?"

Everyone knows what that gesture means

[–]Strip_Bar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I ask girls I meet out if the want to catch breakfast. I’ve bad multiple successes, but it wasn’t a line a through out there totally cold it was after a decent amount of flirting.

[–]mangimansa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's worked several times for me

[–]MGRaiden970 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Never. I've had loads of success by befriending the girl and showing her a good time. I get a friend, and multiple fucks out of it.

I had a one night stand with a girl and it was awful. Why? Because I really wanted to bang her again.

[–]321gumby0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Once at a party. I just ended up with a group of freinds and she was there. Everyone left and it was just me and her. Didn't even say hi, just said wanna go fool around and she said sure. Then we fucked in a car lol. So yea it works

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