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MetaA look into why SJWs are censoring the Immigrant Rape Crisis. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by forgeror

TLDR: A look into why Women and SJW are trying to censor the Immigrant Rape Crisis.

There is "rape" and there is rape.

There is the "rape" where a drunk couple in the heat of the moment have (seemingly consensual) sex in a frat party which becomes "rape" the following morning when miss sororistute regrets it in the morning.

Then there is rape where a girl is lifted off the streets by force, her clothes torn from her and a she is penetrated while being strangled. Too weak, too scared to resist the perp who is sometimes armed.

Note: Throughout this article "rape" (within quotes) will refer to the former type of "rape" and the word rape (without quotes) will refer to real rape described in the latter example.

See, feminists in these current times are pushing hard to convince the world that "rape" is rape. Why? because due to current world of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) there are no major powers waging war on each other. Other than the ruckus created by the middle eastern radicals, the rest of the world is too afraid to start WW III and are too busy eating KFC and figuring out how to pay their credit card bills and mortgages.

So, the western world is, quite frankly, free from rape. I'm not saying rape doesn't happen, but instances are few and far between, committed mainly by guys fucked in the head of who, fortunately, there aren't many.

Now, obviously feminists need a male to blame so in the absence of rape, "rape" takes it's place and, come on! isn't it just easy to blame a young college kid for it?

Also it is pretty easy for women (or anyone) to fight "rape" because "rape" isn't committed by a hard core gangsta criminal. "Rape" is committed by young feminized males.

But you know what's difficult for a woman to fight? A gang of huge middle eastern dudes with no regard for the law forcing themselves on women.

And you know who protected women from these crazy dudes in the past? Masculine men who knew it was their duty to protect their women from external PHYSICAL threats. The world was (is) a violent place and when affronted with violence men know to fight violence with violence. Why? Because violence is effective.

During WW II the Japs made a violent attack on Pearl Harbor. The US replied with a much more violent answer with nukes and forced a surrender. Why was Alexander the Great great? Because he conquered country after country using violence.

The best defense is a good offense. Violence is sometimes necessary. To protect what we hold dear. And violence falls in the domain of masculinity. Not just for humans, but for lots of animals as well. The males are always the violent sex. Although few women can be physically violent. It is simply not their domain.

Women can protect themselves from the non-violent "rape" quite easily. So when there is primarily "rape" occurring, feminists are fighting it hard. Simply because they can. They do stuff like marching with placards that read "STOP RAPE CULTURE" "TEACH MEN NOT TO RAPE" "RESPECT WOMEN". Women fall into this false belief that they don't need men in this safe world (that men created). They start to believe they are as physically strong as men and can do whatever men can do, including protect themselves. And to be honest this belief has worked out very well after WW II. This belief stayed unchallenged... till now.

Women don't want to be told they are weak. Not after fighting so hard to prove they are not. So when an adversary arises that's really difficult to fight (Muslim Immigrants). Instead of saying, "OK we are too weak to fight this new enemy, help us", They'd rather hide the truth or risk losing what they've been fighting for for so long. They and all they SJWs that had been supporting them all along.

It's easier to hide weakness than to accept it.


[–]jasongraham503 176 points177 points  (11 children)

Someone else said it better than me about this subject. "Rape" is used to extract resources from those who have them, i.e. White middle class. Where as rape by poor "migrants" gains the demise nothing. If there's nothing to be gained than they look the other way. "Rape" is just a giant shit test.

[–]forgeror[S] 51 points52 points  (7 children)

yep. not only is there nothing to gain, but speaking out against the immigrants might cause them to LOSE their reputation and social standing.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 50 points51 points  (5 children)

And don't forget the narrative that we NEED a constant influx of Muslim immigrants and that it's good for everyone. Gang-rapes tend to muddy that claim

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

This is the main reason why it's not being discussed

[–]antariusz 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Or the narrative that the earth's population is still growing at too fast of a pace, and that another world war or at least several large regional conflicts would help make things better. Things that could help foment that are seen as beneficial to those in power. Including making a populace grow to hate other ethnic groups.

[–]spacecowboyreturns 9 points10 points  (2 children)

deleted What is this?

[–]bluedrygrass 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's not just a damned shame. It's the end of the civilization as we know and want it to be. There will be no white society, without white men. Just dictatorships over a sea of light brown poors, ruled by few grossly rich and powerful light brown tyrants. End of the story.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 7 points8 points  (0 children)

White men did have words, they were "yes, please."

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Women have something to win into this: See men kill each other for them, nothing is better to boost the female ego.

[–]Endorsed ContributorObio1 125 points126 points  (25 children)

This is what I consider to be the best explanation for feminism's inability to oppose Islam:

http://judgybitch.com/2015/06/09/feminists-dont-challenge-radical-islam-because-real-misogynists-are-terrifying/

... And it's written by a woman. A very astute one at that.

[–]Samantha_Cruz 32 points33 points  (1 child)

excellent read and spot on.

Feminists have gone to some pretty absurd lengths to redefine "rape" so they can use a rather absurd "rape culture" claim as a weapon against men and it seems that they've got no concept what actual rape looks like.

Liberals save their outrage and anger for targets that aren't likely to kill them because it's safer than confronting actual evil.

I also think that they have a hard time processing it; It is contrary to the delusion that they have created for themselves that falsely states that 'all cultures are equally good' (except of course for western white males who are the epitome of all things evil). The very notion that there are people that truly are evil would shatter their delusion and I think they just can't bring themselves to accept it because it illustrates just how flawed their belief system is.

[–]1nzgs 17 points18 points  (0 children)

They don't have difficulty because they don't process anything. They don't see the world rationally or process information through any prism of scepticism like a normal intelligent person. That's the difference between someone driven by ideology and someone driven by reason. People wonder why leftists are so often atheists - it's because their ideology is itself a religious force, there is no room for any other (note I am an atheist myself).

They start with an ideology - that all people are born completely equal, all races and both genders. Of course when you start with such a flawed assumption and project it to the real world where people are completely different, a factor must be invented to explain this. That factor is always an illusory "oppression" whether it's Hitler's Jews, the marxist's capitalists, or the feminist's patriarchy. Since collectivists always view people as part of a collective rather than as individuals, the individual must be punished for the amount of privlege their collective enjoys or benefit from the supposed oppression of their collective.

This pattern of irrational bigotry is common to all leftist ideologies, and the moral authority that metes out this "social justice" is always the leftist in question, such is their ego.

[–]Casanova-Quinn 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Good article. Reminds me of the phrase "There are no feminists on a sinking ship". For the new guys here, it basically means that feminists will happily accept any female privilege if it improves their survival odds. Equality goes out the door when shit gets real.

[–]Leviticus59 26 points27 points  (11 children)

Exactly right. Feminism = Liberalism = Cowardice.

Ever wonder why Serrano never created a "work of art" called "Piss Mohammed?" Because if he did, he'd be hunted down and beheaded.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 35 points36 points  (3 children)

Same reason that animal rights activists throw paint on hollywood actresses who wear fur instead of biker gangs that wear leather.

[–]PanzerBatallion 23 points24 points  (0 children)

While funny, it's not quite the same.

People only give a shit about animals if they're cute. Fur comes from cute animals, and leather comes from your dinner last night.

It's like Drew Carey said in the 90's about Dolphin Safe Tuna - that's great if you're a dolphin, but what if you're a fucking tuna?

[–]Wambo45 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That had never occurred to me, actually. That's a hilarious observation.

[–]Mr_Donnerhuhn 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Can we take back the word Liberal to it's classical meaning, ever?

I think we should more accurately call feminism what it is, marxism

[–]Leviticus59 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Naw, I think it's gone. Same for the classic definitions of "gay" and "marriage," highjacked, corrupted and destroyed by the left.

[–]FugginBenis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Marxism would also be against the capitalists too, but feminism only blames men, not capitalism.

Better to call them Regressives.

[–]Wambo45 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Liberalism is not necessarily cowardice. Liberalism for instance, can answer the question as to whether you think a particular freedom should be upheld for people, but what it can't answer is whether or not you're willing to rock and roll to protect that. Being liberal is not synonymous with being a pacifist or a moral relativist. I think people often tend to look at it that way, because the regressive left has hijacked the title.

[–]momomotorboat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Liberalism isn't cowardice. Cowardice is cowardice. There are conservative cowards too, people trolling for war but not willing to ante up and volunteer for service themselves.

But not much thought should be expected in today's world. It's all extremes now. You're either Chuck Norris or RuPaul. Nothing in between.

I agree that we can't tolerate senseless violence. I agree that the western world should vet the people they allow in, and boot anyone who doesn't respect the rule of law. But I also don't see anyone talking about the backstory of the middle east either. How outside interference shaped what happened there then and now.

But I know why. It's cus no one gives a fuck about that.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Feminists tend to cave in on the issue immediately, again, not because they respect women’s choices, but because they are afraid they will end up dead if they don’t.

The primary survival technique for a female is fear.

The primary survival technique as an alpha trait in men is aggression.

The primary survival technique as a beta trait in men is fear.

Fear has taken over the western civilizations. It should be no surprise to anyone that we are in decline.

[–]bluedrygrass 7 points8 points  (1 child)

On a side note, following a link from that article:

"Bloomfield took issue with an article penned by Jessica Valenti, who argued on the Guardian website’s Comment Is Free section that women are oppressed at Christmas time because they are burdened with all the chores that come with the festive season, such as wrapping up presents.

Yes, that’s right, Valenti seriously argues that wrapping presents, a practice that is joyous and pleasing to the vast majority, is oppressive to women.

“And it’s not enough that women actually manage to finish all of these chores – we’re also expected to plaster Christmas grins on our faces the whole time, lest the masses think we’re not thrilled with all the wrapping-paper-inflicted paper cuts.” Valenti miserably scrawls."

Is this real world?

[–]skoobled 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's either Poe's law, or someone who really has never ever in their entire life got within a millions miles of the slightest hint of inconvenience.

So, in other words, a spoilt brat of unbelievable proportions. Take heed, fathers of daughters.

(More likely, knowing and shameless media whore)

[–]RemyPrice 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I love that the blog's sub-headline is...

The radical notion that women are adults

It reminds me of an alcoholic going around telling everyone how much they aren't an alcoholic.

[–]BRENDORVEGAS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sidebar that article please. 10/10

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This article is an excellent synopsis.

[–]forgeror[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

she seems to be on my frequency. great read.

[–][deleted] 109 points110 points  (30 children)

Interesting theory but I have to disagree with most of what you wrote. In reality, all of these things are explained due to PC culture becoming mainstream. As an aside, PC culture is just code word for feminism.

PC culture is growing into a religion. The religion of sameism. The foundational tenant of the religion, and that which all other beliefs emanate from, is that all people, regardless of race, sex, culture, or social status we are all exactly the same. Thus, any differences that we can observe between individuals must, by definition, be a product of discrimination or some other form of oppression.

Accordingly, we can't say the rapists are predominantly muslim because that would be racist. Because in "truth" we are all the same. We cannot say a particular culture is inferior to another for the same reason. Instead we must turn a blind eye to reality. Its important to realize that there is way you can convince a Sameist otherwise. Should they accept that there are real differences, their entire belief system would crumble. It is akin to convincing a Christian that there is no God. It won't happen.

Another aspect of the PC culture is the destruction of masculinity. Masculine traits (self-reliance, aggression, control of one's emotions, competitive, confidence, etc.) are increasingly carrying a negative connotation in society. We can see this most clearly with children born in the last three decades in that the school system openly punishes children who exhibit such traits. We also see it in our media. It pervades the entire society.

For that reason, the definition of rape is ever-expanding. Just as the definition of sexism and racism is ever-expanding. The PC culture demands it. In the Sameist view, any exercise of masculinity is unwanted and thus should be criminalized. When a college boy "pressures" a girl into sex he is exercising masculinity. Therefore it is inherently wrong and these sort of actions get lumped into groups like rape, sexual assault, etc.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Pc culture and sjw activism is a secular religion. Everything about it can be derived from that premise.

[–]skoobled 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is also something I've come to realise

[–]foldpak111 48 points49 points  (14 children)

I remember my son got into trouble for spitting the truth all over the place in class. The teacher and I had a serious "talk." They gave him a three-day suspension for calling out his History teacher for politically correct data manipulation. They told me to take him to therapy so I bought two tickets to the Super Bowl.

When your 17 year old is academically dominating 40 year olds, you know you're doing something right. Don't worry though, villains, I'll teach him how to 'play the game' before he get's to MIT.

[–]alwaysDisputing 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I would also be proud on him but still you should teach him the 38th Law of Power: Think as you like but behave like others. He is soon becoming an adult. He may get into serious trouble without it.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Don't you love that?

my Daughter has a OOS now on her record, (vacation day I called it)

for defending her friend from a kid. kid was sneakier and got her 'caught' while he played innocent.

NJ anti-bully law in full force: it happened during winter break.

[–]blobbob22 1 point2 points  (2 children)

god damn. How old is your daughter? I went to school there but at my school fights didnt break out often. I wondered about how these rules could be abused but didn't see the result ever.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

  1. A 14 year old boy was asking girls out on local dates to nearby pizza and related stores.

Stand them up and then tease them the next day or so.

My daughter told him she'd hurt him if he did it again. But she did it on Instagram. That was her mistake.

I never saw the post.

During the winter break.

He goes and tells the teacher in school that she threatened him.

[–]bluedrygrass 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Don't worry though, villains, I'll teach him how to 'play the game'

That's crucial for his well being. Leftists are cowards, but also murderous if adequately stimulated.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Murder is easy when someone else does it for you.

[–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Coward is an understatement.

[–]a7244270 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'd love to hear more about this story.

[–]xfLyFPS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What was he talking about? I'm interested.

[–]1Jaereth 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I teach my niece and nephew "real" history as well and I know my niece (when she's right about something and you are wrong she relishes the opportunity to let you know it) has gotten a talking to about it before.

What fact did your son correct the instructor on?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm really sorry that's happening to your kid. The parallels between this and religious schools is really striking. When above poster says it's turning into a religion, I think he's only half right: it's already there. It's been there awhile.

[–]Kalidane 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is a definitive explanation. GJ

[–]interestedplayer 8 points9 points  (1 child)

There is already a word for the religion of sameism:

COMMUNISM/COLLECTIVISM

That's what pc culture or feminism or whatever is. Look up cultural Marxism.

[–]jorgander 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For that reason, the definition of rape is ever-expanding. Just as the definition of sexism and racism is ever-expanding.

If they're continually watered down like that, these words will lose their effect. The word rape still has meaning because as OP described, people still associate it with violent and obviously non-consensual sex. Regardless of the PC definition of the word, as that association deteriorates we will need to invent a new word for what it used to mean, else how will we refer to the original definition?

[–]1jb_trp 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Statistics are often not politically correct and consequently don't fit the SJWs narrative. For example, children raised by single mothers generally end off worse in life (e.g. more likely to become incarcerated at some point in their life, have more emotional disorders, etc.).

Anything that doesn't fit into the SJW narrative is simply ignored or thrown out the window (e.g. that Muslims coming from Syria are more likely to rape a girl than the average college kid from a healthy U.S. family). Only their statistics are accepted no matter how dubious the study. For example, the idea that 1-in-5 college girls will be victims of a sexual assault is complete garbage (and would put their frequency of rape on par with war torn Congo or when the Soviet Army occupied Nazi Germany). Nobody believes these statistics, even the ones who claim they do, or else they'd be taking drastic measures to protect "vulnerable" college women.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Which is why I refer to it as a religion. Religion starts with a conclusion and, to the small extent it cares of facts, cherry picks those that fit the narrative.

[–]Zerael 1 point2 points  (1 child)

For example, children raised by single mothers generally end off worse in life

http://www.cato.org/publications/congressional-testimony/relationship-between-welfare-state-crime-0

The relationship [between single-parent families and crime] is so strong that controlling for family configuration erases the relationship between race and crime and between low income and crime. This conclusion shows up time and again in the literature. The nation’s mayors, as well as police officers, social workers, probation officers, and court officials, consistently point to family break up as the most important source of rising rates of crime.(6)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Great post. This thing you fittingly call sameism is just a symptom of the globalists influence of the world.

[–]Xevalous 5 points5 points [recovered]

Also known as communism. I'm happy to see TRP become enlightened politically. TRP is only the beginning of the dark enlightenment.

[–]bluedrygrass 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right. but then you get some dumbasses whining because this place is not PUA plus. It's getting rarer, though.

[–]agustinsz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow some of you hace great talent explaining and putting ideas and reality into words

[–]ghebert001 27 points28 points  (2 children)

The entire feminist narrative regarding "rape" and "rape culture" revolves around demonizing men and masculinity. Throughout history, women have always found ways to ruin anything that makes men happy.

Bill Burr explains this excellently here

In comes the sexual revolution. Women want to have casual sex, they (men that is) invent birth control, plan B, legalize abortions...all things to make sex as consequence free as possible. The minute men start enjoying the benefits of women's sexual liberation, is the minute women started making sure men suffered consequences for it. First it was "forgetting" their pill that trapped a guy in for 18+ years, today it's "regret rape" which basically ruins a guy's life and career. You see, men can't just go around thinking they can have no-strings-attached sex. Sexual liberation was meant for women...there is no liberation for men and feminazis aim to make damn sure of it.

[–]bluedrygrass 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sexual liberation was meant for women...

This is a point that should be reiterated more: sexual liberation means females will be freerer to fuck with alphas, not with betas. Sex is not for betas.

It's important to point out because so many guys and intellectuals (natural blues) seem to think more sex = more sex for everyone. No. More sex= more sex for alphas, and conversely, less for betas. And it is, indeed, what happened since '68

[–]skoobled 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women need men to have no other source of happiness but themselves; their survival depends on it

[–][deleted] 182 points183 points  (102 children)

Europe is so cucked, the men are so blue pilled due to feminism that it is beyond pathetic. Just depressing. Merkel is an example as to why women should not be elected to office and people should be more active in over throwing incompetent and traitorous politicians.

[–]Born2Ball 46 points47 points  (14 children)

Imagine what America will be like if Hillary is voted into office. There has never been a more important election for guys like us to go out and vote.

[–]1kulrajiskulraj 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Even if she had a dick I would never vote for that insane closet sociopath.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

I am a hard-core progressive and I couldn't agree more. She's not even a closet sociopath. It's wide out in the open. She just knows people have a short memory when it comes to politicians.

[–]Sdom1 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Well, that and the fact that the media won't do its job and remind them, like they do when a Republican sneezed one time in the 80s.

[–]rugratsallthrowedup 7 points8 points  (1 child)

The main contributor to Clinton's campaign is Time Warner or Comcast or some other big media conglomerate. The one that owns all the papers and networks in the US? That's why Clinton's numbers are decent. They won't bomb their backed pony

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Don't forget all the Wall St. Banks and foreign (especially Middle Eastern) governments.

[–]laiyaise 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not just America either. The choice of your President impacts the entire western world.

[–]foldpak111 16 points17 points  (7 children)

We gotta get Trump in to get rid of all this political correctness.

[–]southernmost 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Yeah, a guy who's never had to work for anything, who was born into both wealth and status and yet still managed to go bankrupt several times is exactly the guy we need running the country.

[–]Sdom1 19 points20 points  (0 children)

who was born into both wealth and status ...

His father had a company, yes, but Trump didn't really have the kind of status starting out that people seem to think. The real elite in Manhattan never accepted him as he was just some kid from Queens. He responded by going the fame route and building the Trump name into a globally recognized brand. He should have been shut out, but he overcame that with an unexpected and audacious strategy. That's a rarer quality than people realize.

And a lot of great business people have had huge failures and gone bankrupt. That can happen when you take risks. Taking just their failures into account isn't really an accurate way to assess them. Read the Halo Effect for more on this, it's one of those books that will instantly boost your IQ.

Trump has a reputation as a world class negotiator and dealmaker. Also, and I know some people in the building business who have had dealings with him and his organization, they said he has an uncanny knack for getting things done one way or another.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is disproven every single time it's posted dude.

[–][deleted] 83 points84 points  (65 children)

It's doubly worse in germany where they are still deemed the oppressors. The relevance of Holocaust guilt in this tragedy is only going to lead Germany and Europe into another global conflict. Feelings are obviously more important than logic and reason.

[–]Zerwas 10 points11 points  (2 children)

As a fellow german I am so disgusted by the media output surrounding the new year events in Cologne. Even in the established newspapers and online-media there are a lot of articles that are on par with VICE's "The rape culture has not been imported, it was always here!" article, which of course is total bullshit and just twists the case towards their femnazi-propaganda in the same way the right parties (AfD&NPD) instrumentalize them for their cause.

The media derails the whole thing towards general manhate to distract from the actual problem. It is just frustrating.

[–][deleted] 80 points81 points  (48 children)

There will be a civil war or revolution of some sort eventually. Multiculturalism doesn't work and is a liberal fantasy. All of the leaders in Europe should face severe consequences for what they have unleashed but "feminists" in the west say the rape culture is at college. No, the rape culture is muslims in Europe but I am a "racist" even though factual evidence backs my claims. The EU has allowed for thousands of their women to be raped and it is disgusting.

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (15 children)

It does work, however not with every culture. For instance east Asians are very successful in western education systems and definitely punch above their weight. However what the left wing governments have done is observed the success of East Asians and belived muslims will be able to integrate just as well.

They don't want to look at each culture objectively, and then determine the compatibility. Instead they would rather believe they are all equally compatible. While even if there are any issues, they would rather deal with them later.

Also I forgot to mention it works when there is a moderation on the number of people arriving. Having a million people arrive who can't speak the native language and aren't skilled isn't going to work at all. Multiculturalism works when there is a give and take dynamic between both parties.

[–]Scottysmoosh 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is the crux of every argument in many areas... Equality doesn't equal 50-50, it equals your weight% contribution of the total. As long as no external factors, such as race, sex, religion, etc, influence how your contribution is perceived then it is fair.

Western equality is 50-50 or bust. Hired a white man? I don't care how qualified that other white guy is. or that other black guy. You must hire this black woman to make things equal. But the kicker is that it doesn't work in reverse because of this preconceived notion that "reverse racism" (or just racist) can not occur towards white people or that "reverse sexism" (or just sexism) can not occur towards men.

The same can be said for this case. It is now obvious you can't treat immigration the same for all regions. My dog can see it, and I don't even have a dog. But once you start basing a rational inequality on logic or statistics people get their panties in a twist and point out the problematic racism/sexism of the hetronormative patiarchal capitalist white cishets.

Typing that enrages and saddens me at the same time....

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (4 children)

east Asians are very successful in western education systems and definitely punch above their weight.

That's not really true. Immigrants from Korea, Japan, and China have done well, because those cultures have a strong current of conformism. Generally, by the third generation, immigrants from those countries are completely assimilated into American culture. Contrast that with southeast Asian cultures that have a strong streak of resistance. 5 generations in and they are still clique-ing together and speaking their mother tongue. The groups that cling to their old cultures do demonstrably worse than those that quickly assimilate. The same is also true of Latino immigrants. The same is true of recent African immigrants. The same was true of white European immigrants 100-200 years ago.

Multiculturalism does not work. Assimilate or remain substandard.

[–]phrostbyt 10 points11 points  (3 children)

bullshit dude.. east asians and jews perform well in academia and the professional world. some cultures are simply superior to others

[–]Endorsed ContributorHarleyWalker 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How does thatake what he said bullshit?

[–]MoneyStatusLooks 16 points16 points [recovered]

Yep. The problem isn't that multiculturalism doesnt work. The problem is when two incompatible cultures collide with different value sets.

It's like sticking a zoo animal in a city and not expecting it to fuck shit up.

[–]slay_it_forward 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lets not forget in this version of multicultalism it's 80% men coming in. That's not going to work out well regardless of the country of orgin of the migrants.

[–]1grubek 7 points8 points  (6 children)

I honestly don't think is a problem of compatibility but on how it is done. If you accept immigration but without free lunches, without treating them as automatic victims and guilting anyone who say anything bad about them, expecting them to work hard and expecting them to be thankful for the opportunity to improve their life's, what kind of immigrant do you think is going to come and with what attitude? And if you do the opposite?

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (5 children)

Its blatantly an issue of compatibility. East Asians value hard work ethic, a good education and don't come from a background of rape culture.

Compare them to muslims who don't value education, come from a culture that murders homosexuals, rapes women and celebrates barbarian conquests.

Now please proceed to tell me which culture is more likely to integrate into Western society.

[–]1grubek 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Hard working Chinese immigrants were also treated like shirt, formed mafias, etc... in the past. It is is true that Chinese are more low key both for the good and for the bad but if you don't command yourself with respect and dignity others are going to take advantage of you, no matter if Chinese or Muslims.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

The first restriction on immigration was the Chinese exclusion act.

Even now it's near impossible for someone without any money or education to come from China or another East Asian nation . What we get in the states is the cream of the crop of many nations. We absolutely don't get the Indian guy who shits in the streets, we get one from the upper class who had the means to migrate .

Likewise, the poor immigrants we have now, primarily Hispanics aren't the cream of the crop. This doesn't mean most aren't hard working folks, but you get a fair share of douchbags. Likewise I'm sure most migrants in Europe are decent people who don't want to die in a meaningless war( let's remember that the lives of men aren't valued by society). But again since it isn't restricted to the upper class with means, you get your fair share of douchbags.

[–]2Overkillengine 3 points4 points  (1 child)

We absolutely don't get the Indian guy who shits in the streets, we get one from the upper class who had the means to migrate .

Conclusion: If we just had more objective behavior and conduct filters for immigration, we'd be having less issues with the current generation of immigrants, regardless of the culture of origin.

But, our leaders don't want that.

They don't want people coming here that want to integrate with the system and be a net benefit.

They want the troublemakers they can rely on both to vote for them, and to serve as a external threat to keep the naturalized citizens too divided and bickering over dumb shit to see what is happening.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Isolationism doesn't work either. What works is natural migration for business, work and relationships. Given no welfare or benefits people would never migrate to a place were they cannot support themselves and by that give something useful in return.

As men we are the crown of creation and have the right to go anywhere on the planet we please. If fish and bugs and birds have that right, so should we.

Hostile migrants or refugees should be treated as an invading army would be treated.

[–]TheYambag 1 point2 points  (0 children)

buuut thaaaats meeeaaannnn!

[–]Grasshopper21 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I've never understood the insistence that multiculturalism is a good thing. I'm perfectly fine in my predominantly Anglo European neighborhood and don't need other cultures mixing in. The amount of cultural tip toeing and foot stompin that occurs isn't worth the ability to say, yay we're multicultural.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly! How is it multiculturalism if our country gets turned into a place with every culture, that eventually becomes the same? What's the point of traveling to other countries? Why aren't other countries taking all these migrants? I don't see Korea or Japan or India taking them!

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Multiculturalism works only when you have the right amount of assimilation and retention of former nationality identity. Both sides need to give a little. This is why you see so many north american cities with distinct cultures within them. It's when a community comes over here and remains insular and doesn't assimilate to any extent where they don't even bother to learn the language that makes it not work.

[–]LaRedPill 9 points10 points  (25 children)

It works, but they all need to adapt to a new culture that becomes a mix of every culture in the mix. Here in Argentina we have a whole neighborhood with jews, muslims and chinese, they even work together:

  • Chinese hire bolivians for their sweatshops
  • Jews get the fabric and hire the Chinese
  • I have no idea what the muslims do.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Europe and the entire Western world is in desperate need of a new culture after the failed 20th century. Hitler lost the war, but most European countries have national socialistic economies. European cultures are feminized and dying of infertility and wasting all wealth on old people, women and scammers.

Arab immigrants are being let in by the rulers and given incentives to not integrate with society, this is to create an enemy for the population as to distract them from who the real enemy is (the rulers). It fortifies the Europeans' faith in their failed culture and is just the right conflict needed to keep the people from creating a new culture.

[–]laiyaise 4 points5 points  (1 child)

What you're describing is assimilation though. Various cultures mixing into one culture rather than segregating themselves from each other. They live together and trade with each other. Economic participation is huge part of assimilation because it provides an incentive to interact with people, learn the language, etc which seems to be what has happened here. It's also why trade is the best way to create peace because it's a voluntary form of interaction which is win/win instead of win/lose.

If this were a multicultural neighborhood you would have all the Jews in one street, the Chinese in Chinatown, the Muslims inside your wife.

[–]LaRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We do have them living like that, segregated, they just work together and do other social stuff together (bars, clubs, etc, but some more than others). There is a spill where the orthodox of course won't go clubbing, but everyone not extreme can interact with each other at school (you cannot segregate there), plazas, even the bakery.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse 22 points23 points  (19 children)

Muslims are in charge of the rapes.

[–]LaRedPill 3 points4 points  (18 children)

No, we don't have those here, we even host a simposium where all three religions talk and pray, the current pope was a participant of that several times if my memory serves me right.

Muslims have integrated very well here, even orthodox jews and orthodox christian get along.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (14 children)

Yeah because their is waaaay less tolerance for fringe elements in Argentina than in the US. I don't know how it is in the rest of the country, since I spent all of my two years living in Bs. As. and close in suburbs, but I never once heard someone counter a public shaming with the standard American line of "Respect their culture." or anything similar.

[–]Sdom1 6 points7 points  (12 children)

Yep. My wife is Argentine, and they have a complete and total lack of white guilt. There are some liberals there, but a lot of the nonsense they spout here would never be tolerated.

[–]bluedrygrass 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Yeah it's funny when they see a ligh skinned south american and think they can have their way with him/her, only to see impressive amounts of shit stirred up. South Americans may even look white, but generally aren't brainwashed and more likely than not, reasons and reacts like third world immigrants do.

[–]redestofthereds 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I live in a city where we are 80% "Mexican" and while most of us have taken the blue pill, we throw it back up once we're confronted with the reality of things.I think it's because we're naturally SJW resistant.

There's people here who only speak Spanish and that are voting for Trump because he is "business man".

[–]LaRedPill 2 points3 points  (6 children)

We live in crisis, so no time for bullshit, that is good and bad.

[–]Sdom1 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Racism also doesn't seem to be as stigmatized there. If they think another group commits more crimes, etc, they will just say it.

[–]Cern_Stormrunner 2 points3 points  (1 child)

did you see the clip where the german politician was talking about how good it is that the "Nazis" have stopped breeding?

[–]dodgyasfuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, this whole thing is like a political version of "Backdraft". Germany did awful shit and is now so guilt-ridden they let in a million rapists - real ones.

They will now deny there's a problem until it kills them.

I don't get it. They have seen from their nation being destroyed by partition, and the experiences of the East Germans, that there are other toxic ideologies, that the denial of rational observations of truth is what leads to terrible outcomes. They did it once themselves, had communism imposed on them and now are voluntarily doing it again with this PC bullshit.

[–]OfficerDarrenWilson 4 points5 points  (6 children)

The fact that Germans still feel guilt about the 'holocaust' shows that they have way more of a conscience than most other groups on earth.

[–]HappyScribe 21 points22 points  (1 child)

And it is their 'conscience' that'll destroy them. Just as 'white guilt' will destroy the west.

A Red Pill politician would not care about the past, he would get what's best for his country. We in the West have had it easy for too long and have become soft, we're obsessed with doing what's right, not what's best.

[–]OfficerDarrenWilson 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Rather, they need to change their definition of what 'right' is.

Anything that protect, enlivens, and extends the life of civilization is 'right.' Everything else is 'wrong.'

[–]bluedrygrass 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah but they're wrong. They aren't guilty for something happening decades ago. Are you a nazi? No? Then you have no reason to feel guilty. Otherwise mongolians should hang themself thinking of what Gengis Khan did, and pretty much any other culture on the earth, since it's always been "kill or be killed", and any culture slaughtered and dominated some other.

A poll found out Swedes feel guilty for American's slavery. Figure that out. Swedens feel guilty for the 5 % of the american population (5%, not 100% as it's always made out to be) that had slaves sometimes in the past.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They gotta move on. its like feeling guilty for native Americans for being born in the USA.

[–]juliusstreicher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It means that they are a bunch of saps who buy into a narrative more readily than a rational group should. or, it shows that they have some bizarre mental issues or syndromes.

Why the fuck should they feel bad about something that happened before they were born???

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Not all of Europe. East-Europe is conservative as fuck. Poland, Hungary, Russia, Belarus are just prime examples of strong conservative leaders.

In West-Europe people are waking up very fast. Nationalist parties are gaining popularity everywhere.

[–]iliketreeslikereally 22 points23 points  (11 children)

Merkel was a good ruler during relatively stable times(as good as it gets in the beta western world), but she cannot deal with actually stringent, controversial crises, like the Greek recession and the immigrant crisis now.

She took a tough stance against Greece but it was just political posing and economic suicide, now she's taking a tough stance against people who don't want to be overrun by random muslims (as did ALL of western Europe, especially feminized countries like Sweden) and it's the end of her and her country's credibility.

[–]Leviticus59 29 points30 points  (1 child)

She's helping all of Europe commit demographic suicide. And the left in the U.S. is falling all over itself trying to insure it'll happen here too.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

With Greece she's creating the fourth Reich by buying countries after they fall to debt

[–]iliketreeslikereally 5 points6 points  (4 children)

She's punishing Greece for disobeying. Schaeuble is known to want Greece to fail and serve as an example to countries like Italy, Spain, Portugal, who dare disobey conservative German fiscal policy (he had enough audacity to admit this to the ex-finance-minister Varoufakis). Everyone else is caught up in a misguided moral quest to punish the "lazy Greeks" as well.

[–]bluedrygrass 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's with great coherence then than she aims to fill germany with lazier people than the Greeks

[–]DoesNotMatterAnymore 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is not about cuck, more like the fear of called to be racist. Especially if you are a German. Not every affected country reacted the same way for the immigrant crisis. Personally, i'm glad the way my country did.

[–]thereddespair 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This. Been saying it forever. And they did it to themselves. That is what you get for being fuckin faggots. Hoping people would learn from that shit and stop buying into this progressive bullshit thats really doing nothing but ruin cultures, and lives as seen on the events that happened and continue to.

When men stop being men, others will take their place. And women, will step on them with the new guy. Thats so basic, why people are in denial about that idk.

[–]Aids_by_Google 2 points2 points [recovered]

I would exclude Ireland, the UK and Eastern Europe from that statement.

[–]1runnerrun2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Not the UK. Remember Rotherham? They had groups of muslims rape hundreds of vulnerable white girls for years and noone dared to do anything because it would be racist.

[–]darkrood 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Isn't there a town of Muslims that shout "UK go to Hell! Englsih police go to hell!"

While the liberal reporter look in shock and horror as her once hometown turn into a UK hating English speaking Muslim hate pool.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Clementine Ford brought up the point that white men only care about rape culture when minorities do it.

What we actually care about is dealing with reality. The events in Cologne was a real world example of rape culture.

Feminists use the term "rape culture" as a means of demonising men, it's a catch word that sounds bad however has become so over used that it has lost its meaning.

Conversely Clementine Ford's statement is blatantly hypocritical regardless of which side of the fence you stand on as feminists have failed to report and bring attention to the recent events of real rape culture occuring. The hypocrisy is in fact a form or racism as they are holding Western men to a higher standard than the Muslim migrants.

The recent events portrayal by the media, or lack thereof firmly suggests that the actual victims are western men. Last year's attention to "manspreading" as a form of oppression is laughable when comparing the actions of these Muslim migrants.

If feminists were worried about real patriarchy and rape culture they would only have to look on their door step. They aren't reasonable people who can prioritise the importance of issues. They are rather petty members of society who would rather ruin western men's lives because they didn't deem their queerness attractive in high school.

[–]RUoffended 16 points17 points  (1 child)

The recent trend of women getting gang-raped in Europe wouldn't even be happening if their countries hadn't already made the nonsensical decision to allow hordes of violent, young, Muslim males into their cities. But now that the damage is done, women don't want to admit that they need the help of men to combat this seemingly new enemy.

On the other hand, this is something that I've discussed on here before, and I've definitely had negative feedback elsewhere; but being exposed to a lot of content coming out of this feminist movement has made me realize that a lot of these women (especially the leaders and figureheads, the most outspoken) actually want to be "raped" (notice the quotations). They don't necessarily want to experience rape, but they want to be able to call themselves "survivors" because it enhances their rhetoric and helps push their cause in ways that not calling yourself a victim of rape would. These women are the worst because they bastardize and trivialize real rape, and force themselves on the same level as actual rape victims merely for political and social gain. (Feminist) Women these days have a wildly skewed perception of rape vs. "rape", and most will ridiculously argue that "rape is rape". Even though our society could do without these Muslim migrants, they are doing a good job putting these radicalized women in their place, and at least making them realize that they can't fight these bastards alone, because the situation is only getting worse and they can't ignore the severity for much longer.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is insane and completely true.

In their search for more and more liberation, more and more excitement and stimulation, women have come up with this notion that it's exciting to be "raped." They think about it, fantasize about the social implications on the level of winning the lottery. Hence the Rolling Stone article crying wolf girl fiasco. She wanted to cash in her attention chips by ruining men's lives.

Women do not want to be raped.

But many many women fantasize and actively try to get "raped."

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The response from left-wing journalists/media and feminists in Germany is pretty interesting. Usually it's an attempt at whitewashing and deflecting and telling everyone how of course the majority of the Muslims are embarassed by this (which I actually believe - the problem is just that as a demographic they're far more likely to produce these sources of embarassment).

But some really take the cake. One (especially self-righteous and assholish) journalist wrote ad verbatim "a few groping foreigners and suddenly the thin veneer of civilization is disrupted" (commenting on the outraged reaction of the people).

Also interesting is the feminist reaction. One camp (represented by older veterans of the feminist movement) is pretty aware of the cultural component of the incident and also willing to comment on that without embellishing or whitewashing it. They're as retarded as feminists in most other matters, but I have to give it to them that they're at least consistent when it comes to combating misogyny instead of giving people of foreign descent a free pass.

The other camp... well. Let's just say it's headed by a hipocritical cunt who a few years ago spearheaded a twitter campaign named #aufschrei ("outcry") about everyday sexism in Germany, and by that they meant unsolicited clumsy compliments: the incident that kicked that campaign off was when a female journalist tried to interview an elderly high-profile politician at a bar while the latter was already tipsy; he hit on her and commented on her cleavage. However, while a stupid comment about tits from an old fart was enough to lament the perpetual triggering experiences and the objectification women were suffering from in present-day Germany for these protagonists of the 3rd wave; like a good little leftist they tried their best to deflect from the mass of actual sexual assaults that occured in Cologne, and said that this was nothing out of the ordinary and that during the Oktoberfest (where plenty of drunk people are hanging out) rapes were happening pretty much constantly, claiming that the dark figure was up to 200. A conservative newspaper called them out on that, pointed out (with quoting police sources) that there was no way in hell this could be true and aptly labeled that clumsy attempt at downplaying the incident "the mother of all Cologne relativations".

[–]TheMGhandi 26 points27 points  (3 children)

The moment SJWs acknowledge other men are capable of rape, they lose the war against the 'white patriarchal society'. They want to shut down white guys for good. The weirdest part is white women are the strongest advocates for this.

Typical divide and conquer strategy in use, gentlemen.

[–]Nofap192192 8 points9 points  (1 child)

This is only possible during times of peace and excess. Once the war begins all the sjw bullshit will go back into hiding until the next peace era begins

Edit: gotta make sure you don't get conscripted for the next war. This shit ain't worth fighting for

[–]bluedrygrass 4 points5 points  (0 children)

gotta make sure you don't get conscripted for the next war. This shit ain't worth fighting for

I'd rather die fighting against the ones trying to conscript me to fight for their suicidal economical and political views

[–]BradPill 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Also (and at least equally relevant): the SJW's call anyone opposing (muslim)-immigration a racist - which is the worst slur possible. Apart from the fact that there is no muslim-race, as it is a religion - but it's not about logic or reason.... So, being very vocal and pro-immigration, they now can't oppose immigration, even when facts emerge it perhaps is not so smart and rosy to allow hordes of young men with different cultural norms in your streets... It would be ultimate justice if those SJW's were raped (though I figure even Muslims have some standards...) and not random women, but alas, as SJW's scream, whine and cry for years now: there is no justice!
They can't oppose those raping Muslim immigrants now, as Muslims are victims and inherently good -plus, it would make SJW's make look racist... hamstering: "It takes time adjusting after all the trauma and shock. Also, they lost or left their lovers, so young men feel lost and lonely. Plus, those white bitches were just provoking them, as they should have be cautious going out in public, knowing there are wild Muslims roaming the streets. We invited them, so we should respect their cultural beliefs. They are good people, it just takes time to adjust."

[–]bluedrygrass 8 points9 points  (1 child)

It would be ultimate justice if those SJW's were raped

I've read a newspaper article about something like that happening, a professor or something like that got two or three arabs breaking into his house and raping his daughter and wife in front of him, he went on blaming society and claiming they didn't have fault.

Leftism is a mental disorder.

[–]BradPill 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That will make some good family-discussions from now on - the guy doesn't stand up for his family, and then defends the rapists. Like you say, they should be treated in an asylum - or rather, send them to North Korea or Zimbabwe - that might cure them fastest.

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[–]Nofap192192 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Russians are probably laughing at the west right now

[–]bluedrygrass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think they're more worried about how the west is planning to nuke them all. Because that's definitely the vibe you get from Barack Hussein and friends when talking about Russia, the old fortress of marxism turned out not enough marxist for marxist western's standards.

[–]OrionSC2 28 points29 points  (2 children)

"A look into why Women and SJW are trying to censor the Immigrant Rape Crisis" This is not a tl;dr

"It's easier to hide weakness than to accept it" THIS is a tl;dr

[–]waldo888 6 points7 points  (1 child)

War is always avoided until in cannot be avoided anymore, except by the warmonger. That is either the strong power hungry nation, or the desperate group, usually made desperate by said powerful group. The powerful get confident and this leads to an almost temptation to attack weaker people. When you give woman or any other group the illusion of power/confidence (as in weaknesses to exploit in the other) you give them temptation to attack. If the minor attacks succeed there will be an escalation. Women will escalate until the obvious power structure is returned....or not. Same with terrorism. They will escalate as long as the repercussions are minimal, and the confidence in their attacks, hence their enemies weakness, is maintained. This is the best strategy to maintain the good guy image by self victimization....you bait the enemy into attacking with illusions of confidence, by showing weaknesses. When they ultimately do attack you crush them as you have hid your true force. How often has a woman provoked a man to the point of attack and when he does....boom arrest etc etc.....

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

33 strategies of war. The result is likely to be bloody, but can be effective. Also inevitable, see Harrington, The Clash of Civilizations.

[–]1Jaereth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think the whole thing goes back to the core of the SJW/Feminist group of people.

We've become so afraid of "racism" as a people that we can only roll shit uphill

Therefore, Upper/Middle Class White Females, cannot come out against any group but Upper/Middle Class White Males.

This is why whenever the feminists get behind a cause, it looks asinine because there are about a million other things to worry about that are having a real, direct impact on women. However, they are limited in the causes they can champion. They must make sure the antagonists are Middle/Upper class white males, or else they would quickly become the exploiters they are so quick to accuse us of being.

So yeah, a bunch of Middle Eastern men going on a rape spree in Europe? That seems pretty relevant to the modern free woman's interests. However, Antagonist =/= White so they can't even approach the issue.

[–]aherne18 11 points12 points  (5 children)

First of all, who incited mass immigration into Europe (and accuses non-conformers of being "Nazis") but keeps on refusing to allow a single RAPEugee in their country? You got it;) They are the key to understand the current problem...

[–]Sdom1 6 points7 points  (4 children)

The problem with that reasoning is this - what possible good does this do for Jews or Israelis? Giving Muslims control of Europe's power, technology and infrastructure would be horrible for Israel and the Jewish diaspora.

[–]aherne18 4 points5 points  (3 children)

They just want more diversity for Europe: not just their organizations continue to be die-hard supporters for "tolerance" (in Europe, not in Israel), but Israel itself "recommended" for EU to take the diversity path even further and accomodate more immigrants (found an article in Haaretz about this).

What they are after is a planned orderly destruction of what used to be Europe and sexual revolution (which is ENTIRELY their work) helped create a society too entrenched in vice that nobody is going to amount any resistance.

Changing the subject: TRP would not exist without the sexual revolution (and sexual revolution or "human rights activism" would not exist without Jews). Prior to that there were GOOD mothers (in general), GOOD families (in general) and countries that fought wars for themselves rather than for Israel. Everyone (or almost) would have been married with women that had ZERO sexual partners before, have children and be IMMENSELY happier (if you believe modern WHORES are happy, you don't know them enough).

[–]Sdom1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

One article doesn't necessarily mean a broader policy. Also, Israelis have zero illusions about Muslims and what they are capable of, and what they want to do to them. It's incredibly long-term stupid, which is not a term one would normally associate with the Jews.

Now, it could be a simple matter of overconfidence, or maybe there's some information that I don't know that would be game changing, but as it stands, it would be really stupid.

That being said, Bibi did criticize Trump for wanting a temporary halt in Muslim immigration. The density of that hypocrisy approaches neutronium.

[–]MooseHunt 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Women don't want to be told they are weak. Not after fighting so hard to prove they are not. So when an adversary arises that's really difficult to fight (Muslim Immigrants). Instead of saying, "OK we are too weak to fight this new enemy, help us", They'd rather hide the truth or risk losing what they've been fighting for for so long. They and all they SJWs that had been supporting them all along.

I don't think this is the reason at all. It is to fit the patriarchy narrative and the white men are the enemy. If feminists suddenly were to find out that 77,6% of rapes are commited by immigrants in Sweden then their narrative falls apart.

The question about costs of immigration has also been quieted down in Sweden, for the same reason as why the rapes have been quieted down. It is because if the information gets out it proves that the feminists and leftists do not live in a real world where white men ruin the society. If this would happen it would lead to more votes towards the rightwing parties and in particular Swedish Democrats who are anti-immigration.

[–]bluedrygrass 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Only 77%? I doubt it. Lately police doesn't even accept to register a crime based on race, i doubt those datas aren't twisted in any way.

[–]HeadingRed 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hypocrisy exists across all political boundaries. You are encountering a group known as regressive liberals

The premise is this - any group who is not a part of those who largely make up the elite and powerful cannot be oppressors. In other words if you are oppressed it is now impossible for you to oppress others or at the least is the excuse for why your behavior should not be held to the same standard as those in power.

In the USA (and Europe) most financial and political positions are held by white men. Therefor most of the time anyone outside that group is oppressed 24/7 and is somehow magically exempt or given a pass for bad behavior

Mind you I see hypocrisydouble standards on the other side of the isle as well - this is just one of the stupidest ones out there at this time.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is probably the most plausible explanation for what's going on that I have heard. That mixed with a healthy dose of the feminist mantra that any criticism is "invalidating". That means they don't want to call out the rotten apples among the mass of incoming immigrants because that somehow means that they are juding all immigrants/Muslims, et cetera.

[–]Cern_Stormrunner 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sargon recently posted a clip from The Young Turks where they start off talking about the Cologne attacks and then switch to how the West has the real "Rape Culture."

Bunch of morons

[–]thereddespair 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I take it more as people who fund these feminist groups are served better by these events and their agenda in the western world. Women are just too dumb sometimes to see what is really going on in the bigger picture. They buy the shit thats fed to them coz they only look at how it serves their immediate nonsense.

[–]randarrow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree with most of what is here, but let me provide additional views. The news media is not discussing for two reasons: they can't feel good by broadcasting it, a good chance broadcasting it would make things worse.

Mass rapes are reported when occurring within a set group of people because others get a righteous better than them feeling, ie that gang rape on the Indian bus a few years ago. If that had happened in Syria/by Syrians, it would be reported. If this had happened in Germany by Germans, it would be reported simply because of a working us vs them dichotomy. Fact that this is an us and them, can't feel bad or good about it.

Secondly, reporting on mass rapes would likely not only cause more mass rapes (like suicide reporting being rare for a reason), the reporting would cause massive amounts of vigilantiism. By not reporting on this, the reporters are literally trying to avoid killing people. They put one picture of one wanted migrant on the news, and dozens of people who look merely like them will be harassed if not killed. Remember the Atlanta and Boston bombing fiascoes?

Then there are of course other angles mentioned here like trying to avoid government turnover, failure of multiculturism, and feminist blinders.... Need to find a constructive way to solve all of these issues.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Fuck SJW's can't wait until they die out

[–]ConfessionsofaLurker 3 points4 points  (1 child)

They'll eventually breed themselves out of existence, nature has a way of correcting things like them.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

SJW's have this whole thing where they see things in only black or white, no room for nuance. It's bs

[–]bluedrygrass 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What you said is certainly true, but... there's not only that. Many females have an hidden desire to be raped, and feminists are particularly twisted females, and usually ugly and out of shape.

Result, they have nothing against REAL rape cultured men because they wish to be raped by them. And be kept in check, and forced to wear covering clothes. Endless drama, strong feelz, finally feeling like a woman between masculine men, instead of being surrounded by androginous betas.

[–]FugginBenis 8 points9 points  (3 children)

From my point, the immigrant crisis was started for various reasons, mainly:

  • Lowering wages

There is a massive surplus of labour, thanks to automation, jobs are being replaced by machines, but the increase of available workers from firstly woman, and now immigrants, means that if you try and go for a job, if you don't like the pay, someone else will work the same job for less. And immigrant's home countries don't have such good pay, so will be willing to go for low paying jobs at lower pay than a normal person. This helps with preventing companies moving their production facilities to China or somewhere else for much cheaper labour and to stay in Europe. It's a way of countering the huge economic boom China is having (or had, its slowing down alot at this point.)

  • Allowing government to increase surveillance

Social media has proven to be really good for organizing protests and other actions, (see Arab Spring.) So spying on there will help to silence/sabotage those who have differing opinions to the elite, so the leaders allow immigration openly and create scaremongering due to how easy it is for terrorists to come in to Europe and cause havoc. They then in the name of counter-terrorism start spying to 'protect us' from terrorists.

And to make sure people don't get fed up with the bullshit and take collective action, they use media, which has been used for years to push feminist rhetoric and pussify and bluepill men, gets used on the general public once again to feel bad about opposing immigration, and to welcome them with open arms, even though half of them are still following a ancient religion and are basically incompatible with western modern culture. People are also divided. With the feminist shit dividing the two genders, there is also the immigrant crisis dividing people. The general population can't work together because they disagree with each other on so many things. This is great for the political elite and the capitalists (CEOs, Bankers, etc.) They can do things and there will be no proper formidable action against them because everyone is squabbling about those immigrants, those misogynists pigs, etc. Divide and conquer tactics.

Our real enemies are the political elite and the capitalists. Not the immigrants, who came for a better opportunity (because their country is shit or because our elite have been waging war in their countries for oil) but don't realize they are being used.

[Edit: format and grammar mistakes]

[–]KillYourselfLiving 2 points2 points [recovered]

Poor immigrants who are forced, by your hated elite, to rape & fight. Maybe you should start a charity for those pitiful victims of elite-oppression?

You bum need to get a job, join politics and stop crying about the elite & capitalists.

[–]skoobled 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He's basically right, though. However, always bear in mind there's rarely need for actual coordinated smokey room conspiracies for events of this nature. It's enough that conditions encourage enough people in the right positions of power to align their interests in the same direction

[–]FugginBenis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They aren't forced, but if you live in a shitty third world nation, and the wealthy and peaceful first world countries open up their doors, who wouldn't want to take that opportunity. They aren't forced to 'rape and fight,' but because European governments give them houses and payments, some are bored and they are also part of a religion that hates Christians, the values that most of Europe came from, and go around and be unproductive and cause chaos because they get away with a slap on the hand. They won't even get deported, because white guilt, etc. It's like expecting a monkey (not in a racist way but the difference in values and law) to act like a human when place in the middle of New York. There will be trouble.

And also, thanks for your motivational words, I am in the process of that.

[–]balancespec2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No I don't think that's it, it's just they'd have to admit that Muslims are more likely to rape and in doing so they'd violate a core tenet of SJWism which avoids stereotyping, so they just hamster it away.

There are feminists that are anti Muslim but the SJWs are a hybrid feminist that defends one minority except when it comes at the expense of another. In this case it's Muslim vs woman and theyou can't tolerate infighting so they hamster a way, no matter how obscure, to blame straight cis white males.

Everything to the SJW is an us vs them mentality. Except the them to them is straight cis white males

[–]webleytempest 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your thought out post reminds me of this feminist debate on rape culture, between Wendy McElroy and Jessica Valenti. Wendy speaks first if you want to watch all of it. Wendy's discussion is impeccably on point. Jessica's will probably have you smashing the screen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBsk1WzEdCA

[–]DoesNotMatterAnymore 8 points9 points  (0 children)

TLDR: A look into why Women and SJW are trying to censor the Immigrant Rape Crisis.

This is not a TLDR, that's the title again.

[–]david_kimba 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Violence does not solve problems... Except for the problems it solves.

Torgue High Five Flexington

[–]1runnerrun2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another reason is that shaming these muslim immigrants simply doesn't work. Only whites respond to shaming tactics. They only use what works ie shame other whites.

[–]I-Am-Dickish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It really is disappointing how suppressed masculinity is in children today, and I have to admit I was a pussy when I started high school. Fortunately I realized pretty quick that violence was actually a pretty good answer. Shouldn't be a default, but nothing says "dont fuck with me" like decking a guy.

[–]obama_loves_nsa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck what a great thread. Thank you for bringing this up. It needs to be heard.

[–]Christian_Kong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying rape doesn't happen, but instances are few and far between, committed mainly by guys fucked in the head of who, fortunately, there aren't many.

I would say most of the rape in this country is probably within the sex trade.

My buddies cousin(about 21 now) was stripping for a while and made some bad acquaintences. One day she was invited over a fellow strippers house where some dudes forced her into a room where for several weeks she was chained down(literally according to police) and pumped full of heroin while her body was put up for sale on backpage. An ex of hers found out about it and the cops saved her, but shes probably fucked for life over it.

The "rape culture" thing is vastly overstated by some and seems to exclude a lot of other fucked up rape situations which probably are larger problems.

[–]MikePatton-yakyakyak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Defending the leftist narrative is more important to them than ANYTHING ELSE. They've already demonstrated that they'll defend a pedophile if said pedophile agrees with them politically.

[–]agustinsz 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Damn this was a great read well done man

[–]pushtheskyaway1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of reasons. They don't want to appear to be criticizing those marginalized brown people. But mostly if they talk about it it makes the petty bullshit they complain about look even more pathetic by contrast. It is also extremely easy to make fun of white/christian/straight males because they are overall pretty civilized and fear of retaliation is minimal. Criticizing people who may or may not be willing to commit terrorist attacks takes a lot more balls.

The media narrative that you either let them in or you are a racist is insane. No country should let people in unless they are sure that they will uphold the law and have respect for their new home. Angela Merkel allowing them to come in carte blanche shows that she cares more about the welfare of refugees than the German people.

Germany has become a cuck country, where they allow rapefugees (the majority of which are young men who should be fighting against ISIS in their besieged country) to go around and openly rape their women in the streets. The police have actively tried to cover it up and they also have little to no gun rights, which make the victims of harassment easy targets.

The lesson for America is simple. Stay armed, and be vigilant about who comes into your country. Only respectful, hardworking people should be accepted no matter where they come from.

TLDR: Essentially it does not fit into their narrative so it must be disregarded.

[–]daswareinbefehl 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What I cannot fathom is how could those guys in Cologne even achieve an erection on NYE in that cold weather?

[–]bluedrygrass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Porn and scantily dressed women in movies and publicity have an high impact on the brain, that quickly raises its tolerance. There are men that cannot achieve erections with good looking girlfriends giving them head. Entirely psychological. It's also why there's the "raising the bar or weirdness" effect in porn consumption.

There are subreddits dedicated to those effects and how to reverse them.

We are desensitized, those people on the other hand never got to see even a bare leg before in their lifes, and suddenly they're walking between camel-toed yoga pants

[–]DforDeadpool 7 points7 points [recovered]

The "Muslim Immigrants" phrase grinds my ears. I live in a Muslim/secular country. When some girl gets raped here, it makes it to newspapers. It's not common. People would lynch rapists if it weren't for the police. Rapists get raped in jails. It's not about being muslim. Islam even forbids looking lustfully to women who are not your wife(s). Similar to Jesus' teaching about "gouging out your right eye". It's just that most of the immigrants are just daesh sympathising horny goat-fuckers. My country accepts shitloads of immigrants. Most can't do anything because they know if they were to rape someone's daughter/sister, they'll got killed, raped back, tortured, and I can easily say people who'd punish rapists would get away with it, 99%. Again, thank God for not living in a cuckland shithole. Ours is a conservative and tough shithole.

Edit: Also, good point about feminists and SJWs. If they were to acknowledge immigrant rape incidents, they'd need to accept that masculine men's protection is needed. That's why they shut up. Because they know if real men does not stand for them, they'll just got raped, goat gangbang style.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Most can't do anything because they know if they were to rape someone's daughter/sister, they'll got killed, raped back, tortured, and I can easily say people who'd punish rapists would get away with it, 99%.

That and the fact that the guys are more comfortable sexually assaulting or raping "non-virtuous" girls which can mean anything (and who are more likely to be found in Western countries).

The Rotherham scandal is such an example (which targeted British white trash), Stockholm is such an example (which targeted the "sexually liberated" Swedish women), the rapes on the Tahrir place are such an example (which targeted politically active and therefore uppity women), and the "tournantes" (gang rapes) in french suburbs are such an example (which targeted Muslim girls who made the mistakes of having had boyfriends and not staying under the radar; and as a consequent were labeled as sluts and as such fair game for everyone).

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I agree with most of what you say, with two caveats. First, in the country you live in, the women would be Muslim women, not infidels, and I'm sure that makes big difference in the attitude. Second, the kind of mass harassment of women we saw is something known in Egypt, but new to Europe.

However, I think your main point is that Western men have become so feminised that they will not take mass retribution in response, and I agree. Also, it isn't just that they see these women as infidels, but as sluts, which is a point hard to argue strongly against. Of course, they would not be if men had not allowed it.

[–]DforDeadpool 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I knew Christian girls from Egypt. Egyptian guys just treated them how they'd treat a Muslim girl. They were sexually aggressive to other women, but not to the point of harrassement. What you say is, the "infidel" label makes rapists' hamsters run, convincing them it's okay. It reminds me of Jewish culture since goys are considered inhuman and doing all kinds of evil on them is allowed. Also, it has something to do with the Western culture which encourages women to seem and act slutty. After seeing women only in burkas, of course that's just too much for them. Yet doesn't justify rape. Go and rub one out if you're that horny.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yes, it is just an excuse to make their behaviour ok, but an excuse likely to figure. The mob harassment is something copied from Egypt though, I'll look up the name if you wish. As you say, they should just rub one out.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (16 children)

I live in a Muslim country too, you're forgetting or ignoring the fact that most rape cases in Muslim countries do not get reported because, even if everyone knows the girl is a real victim, it still brings shame to her entire family and in many cases, she gets locked up for her own protection from 'honor' killings.

Any girl who has tried walking in the streets of a Muslim majority country will tell you how uncomfortable it is, many Muslim men are sex-deprived and they don't try to hide it.

[–]DforDeadpool 2 points2 points [recovered]

Honor killings happen but it does not apply to the every level of the society. Or at least it's like that in where I live. In few cases, women get raped and don't report it. It usually goes like; girl fucks with a guy, her family finds out, she cries rape to save her unicorn reputation. In more rural/ignorant parts of the society, she cries rape to save her life. In muslim countries men are sex-deprived, yes. It's because Islam restricts sexuality, not encourages men to gangrape foreigner women.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (14 children)

Islam doesn't order Muslims to rape, but..

  • There is nothing in the Quran or Sunna that forbids rape, they do forbid consensual adultery (Zina), but no mention of rape at all. Some Muslims try to justify this by listing rape under adultery.

  • The general tone of the Quran portrays women as property of their men.

  • During war with Kuffar (infidels), Muslims are allowed to 'own' captives and have sex with them. The Quran specifically tells Muhammad he's free to have sex with his slaves in verse 50 of Al Ahzab.

  • A very popular Hadith by Mohammad says angels will curse women who refuse sex with their husbands.

  • There's a well documented story in Muslim's most important and credible books after the Quran (Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari), about Muhammad choosing a captive whose father and brother his army killed on the very same day of their death. She later became his wife so that makes it okay in their eyes.

Generally speaking, Islam did not do a good job at forbidding rape, and it allows Muslims to own war captives and rape them during war. Many Muslims believe that "The West" is waging a war on Islam, and therefor Islamic war teachings apply, including sexual slavery.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers 8 points9 points  (3 children)

See, all I can say, and I mean this with the utmost respect, is Taqiyya.

Once you solve that little problem, we can talk.

[–]darkrood 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Taqiyya

uhm...I am completely moron when it comes to Islam.

Does that mean the practice of lying to your enemy as a strategy?

Then which practicing Islam should I believe as a non-believer?

[–]Trail_of_Jeers 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You got it, you are not so much a moron as you think.

Islam has to account for the practice before I believe a word out of a Muslim's mouth, but they can't because it's a religious command. It's not like Leviticus which was ignored and dismissed by Christ.

[–]DforDeadpool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hundreds of years of hamstering wouldn't end in a few days. But we are trying.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (8 children)

I just like to know what peoples positions on the whole thing is.

Should we be fighting to protect these women? Or should we let them wallow in the mire they have created?

[–]MooseHunt 6 points7 points  (5 children)

The whole political and media atmosphere has been so immigration friendly the last 10 years in Sweden. Only one party out of 8 supported reduced immigration. Anyone voting or supporting this party would be labeled a racist. As such most women would not support this party and instead be the ones most outspoken for massimmigration and multiculturalism. I feel sorry for them, because their ideas were not situated in reality. But this is the creation of the swedish women, media and politicians.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Yes its a sad state of affairs in Sweden, what are Swedish men meant to do?

It's women who keep voting for these left parties, its women who keep holding placards for 'Welcome refugees' and when the time comes its going to have to be Men that bails them out of the situation they have created, meaning men dieing and getting hurt. and for what? So they can keep making the same mistakes?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, after spending 50 years trying to destroy men and masculinity, it is a bit much for them to turn around and say, "help me, Obi Wan Kenobie, you are our only hope!", especially for a problem they themselves brought about. May be better to leave them to the immigrants and Western men to look elsewhere for women.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think we let them suffer for now. Men need to lead, but women also need to DECIDE to be lead. I think they need treated like a totally rebellious teenager.

For now, we let them go on their own, and live in their own self-destructive world. Our focus should be on our personal development as masculine nationalist men. We should be there and ready to accept the women who eventually come looking for a man's leadership, just as a parent will continue with their life but be ready to accept their rebellious child if they return home ready to submit to their parent.

Don't chase the women. Don't fight to protect women who don't want it. When women want back under men's leadership (and they'll want to submit to the strongest men around), we must be SURE that the social contract is rebuilt on our terms. If we let women have major political say, major economic control, or their fantasy of strong-independent-womanhood, then we've just turned around and made the same mistakes again.

If women never return? Well, that sucks and it was our own fault for not reasserting ourselves as the strongest tribe. Women will ALWAYS submit to the strongest tribesmen. They will ALWAYS want the Alpha.

Right now, Western white men are clearly the global Beta. Shit, we're nearly a global Omega.

Just as feminism is the manifestation of women's behavior on a national scale, and cultural Marxism is the manifestation of self-hating betas on a national scale, our answer to the collapse is the manifestation of Alpha improvement on a national scale.

[–]Moonshineraider 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saying what all of us here on TRP know too well. This message needs a platform to be spread amongst the masses.

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