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Rant/VentingScary story told by a woman I met in Tinder (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by PeluzaHT

I met this girl in Tinder, and decided to have a drink with her. She was not what I expected. Nice body, but her facial features... well, you know how it goes. Despite that, I was already there and she seemed nice so I stayed for an hour chatting about life.

I decided to explore a little bit about how she thought regarding some TRP themes, as I was not going to see her again and I didn´t mind what she thought about me. Anyway, I almost didn´t talk but decided to let her express her ideas and listen carefully. What she told me shocked me and was a textbook story for this subreddit.

When she was in high school (middle class, private school), one day a male classmate (14 years old) appeared running desperately and badly injured. Some people was beating him, apparently for no reason. He didn´t understand why a bunch of older people was hurting him for no reason. He found refuge inside the school. Later, he knew the reason: he was being accused of raping a 12 year old girl from the same school.

He never saw the girl, talked to her, or anything before. They were completely strangers. This was, of course, something most people didn´t believe: ohhh poor snowflake, this little innocent girl was abused by an older student. Yeah. 14 years old. I was playing pokemon at that age, literally. I was more focused on evolving my Charmeleon to Charizard than stopping being a virgin.

The guy was identified as the raper in school. So he had to change school, and deal with a trial for raping a minor, paying for a lawyer and dealing with an injured knee that required surgery due to the brutal beating of this girl parents and friends. To make story short, some years later he won the trial proving his innocence.

Long story short, the real facts of the story were that this girl, pretty slutty, got pregnant from a random dude. 12 years old, again, from a decent family. She was so scared of what their parents might think that she said she was raped in the bathroom of her school. Her parents rage, understandable, demanded that she should identify the rapist. They went to the school, where she randomly pointed a guy that passed by. Then the nightmare started.

This poor guy got injured and his life became a nightmare instantly just because some selfish, inmature and stupid girl randomly accused him of rape. I wanted more information, but she was not in touch with this guy anymore, all she knew was he won the trial and now he´s accusing her instead of what he did. Being a lawyer myself, unfortunately I don´t think he might win... Even in my country, were false rape allegations are not even close of what happens in America, this poor guy´s life was ruined by no reason.

EDIT: Pokemon quote; and false rape allegations instead of rape culture. EDIT2: After 3 stupid comments on my grammar... I´m not american, and english is not my native language. No need to make remarks on it thinking I´m a local american lawyer, I think you all can understand perfectly what I wrote. If you want, I can translate this into any of the other four languages I speak fluently.


[–][deleted] 274 points275 points  (33 children)

They should make horror movies about this shit

[–]alucidexit 143 points144 points  (26 children)

Have you seen The Hunt? It essentially is a horror film.

[–]SrMandril 66 points67 points  (8 children)

That movie and today's society is why I support recording classes and teacher's offices.

[–]marty2k 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Pssh, that won't change anything. With the feminist narrative of "always believe the accuser" plus white knights, your life will be ruined before you get to show it in court.

[–]1RXRob 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Scout leaders over here in the UK have a strict rule about never being alone with a scout under any circumstances. I agree with your position on CCTV in schools.

[–]pcadrian 15 points15 points [recovered]

Excellent but infuriating movie.

[–]babybopp 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is on Netflix by the way for anyone that has not watched it

[–]mEatBucket 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Made me think of Gone girl. That shit is fucking realistic.

[–]MorbidLeoBees 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Whenever asked what the scariest horror movie is, that's what I list.

[–]towmule 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I saw that in theaters with my SO, and on the way out, some other guy that was also there with his SO and I shared a look, and knew exactly what he was thinking.

"What the fuck did I just watch?"

[–]StarDestinyGuy 12 points13 points  (5 children)

I'm almost afraid to watch that based on how furious it will likely make me.

[–]babybopp 13 points14 points  (3 children)

I have recommended that movie to a lot of guys. Mads mikkelson performance was really good. It is a good portrayal even though reality is far worse

[–]StarDestinyGuy 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Reality is far worse than what the movie portrays?

From what I've heard, what the movie portrays is already absolutely horrible.

[–]babybopp 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It is mostly set in a rural setting. That is why I say the reality in an urban setting would be far worse

[–]fatalbinoninja 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Check out Gone Girl. Sure it's fake but it vividly shows just how far she can go to ruin a guys life.

[–]Stythe 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I saw this before I found out about TRP. I thought it was a brilliant movie but didn't understand it. After learning a lot of these concepts I remembered watching it and it was very disturbing. Fantastic movie though. I've been meaning to watch it again now that I know what I know.

[–]throwaway320_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What was there not to understand before TRP?

[–]Stythe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Motivations, I believe. But maybe it was explained and I just couldn't wrap my head around the plot due to not u derstansing male/female mindsets.

[–]CD_Johanna 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"It Follows" is as close as it gets.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 93 points94 points  (39 children)

If two guys come after you, run. If 3+ guys come after you, run and pull out a knife. You're going to lose anyway, bring one with you.

What idiots, set out to kill someone without a thorough investigation and questioning her. What a bunch of whiteknight faggots.

[–]CaptainGloom 39 points40 points  (5 children)

This is what you get when the masses take justice into their own hands. They fuck it up and beat innocent people, because the masses are idiots.

[–]jm51 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Was an incident in England a few years ago where a mob stormed the house of a new occupant. They'd heard that the new owner was a paedo...trician. A female one at that.

[–]tsudonimh 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I recall that her house was vandalized, not invaded. But what made it worse was that it happened repeatedly, despite people being told the truth.

[–]jm51 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A lot of this is down to Rebecca Brooks when she was editor of The Sun. She ran a paedo phobia campaign with the only intent of increasing circulation.

A year or two later, a white van man in a rural area sees a boy of about 4 alone on the road. Guy didn't stop because he was worried about being accused of kidnapping.

The boy was later found drowned in a ditch.

[–]katmf05 10 points11 points  (3 children)

And bite like a motherfucker monkey, it is your fucking life!

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Bite the jugular and eye gouge.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

fuck biting if I'm going to the emergency room or the grave I'm bring someone elses testicles with me.

[–]Jaz_the_Nagai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who knew I'd find woman empowerment on theRedPill...

[–]Sdom1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The kid's balls were just starting to drop, he was smart to run.

[–]Gawernator 21 points22 points  (23 children)

Or pull out your Glock 19 Gen 4

EDIT: Downvoted for using personal defence? Lol ok

[–]Jaz_the_Nagai 12 points13 points  (3 children)

I think you got downvoted because what you said sounded like a mix of something Samsung is releasing next month and Star Wars.

[–]Gawernator 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Hah. https://us.glock.com/products/model/g19gen4

Not my best gun but one of my favorites. P226 MK25 is too large for daily carry and smaller guns I reserve for summertime

[–]CZ-75 1 point2 points  (12 children)

The CZ-75 is a much better firearm.

[–]Gawernator 1 point2 points  (11 children)

The CZ-75 is excellent. My personal favorites for top tier guns are Sig Sauer followed by H&K. Glock wins for duty use due to supreme reliability, simplicity, lots of cheap spare mags and parts, accurate, lightweight, etc. No brainer. And if you lose it during a court case following a shooting you won't cry as much over a $400 glock vs $700-1,200 handgun

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Sounds like you know a thing or two about guns. What would you suggest for the first and only hand gun I'll probably own? I'd like something reliable and easy to get ammo for. All around utility. I'm 6'1" and have big hands if that matters. Planning on getting my conceal and carry permit and there's a big local gun show this May where I'll probably make a purchase.

[–]Gawernator 2 points3 points  (9 children)

Definitely a Glock 19, gen 3 or 4 (I prefer the newer 4th generation). It's affordable around $400-500, very popular which means lots of available spare parts and inexpensive magazines, easy to shoot, inexpensive 9mm round, extremely reliable. It's also easy to conceal and an all around utilitarian gun. If I had to only take one handgun out with me into combat I would take my Glock 19. I would also install some Trijicon or similar nightsights on it after you buy it. It is also extremely easy to disassemble and maintain. I suggest Remora brand IWB holsters, they are on sale right now, handmade in the USA and inexpensive.

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Thanks for your advice. I will seriously consider it.

[–]Gawernator 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Good luck! Every man needs at least a solid handgun. For home defense I'd suggest a Mossberg 500 or similar shotgun, $200-$300 12 gauge 00 buck

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I plan to take up deer hunting as well, next fall, so I'll be shopping for a rifle. Two guns is probably good for now but maybe a shotgun someday.

I was raised by far left hippie progressives and was never taught how to handle guns. In fact, when I was 11 my dad found a plastic squirt gun and pelt gun I had hidden in my room. He took me out into the driveway and smashed them with a rock, telling me he wouldn't allow guns in his house, not even toy guns. lol. He's a good man and I love him but I'm smarter and wiser.

[–][deleted] 163 points164 points  (56 children)

Without a rape kit, I'm in the corner of, won't believe a rape happened. Too many false allegations of rape for me to just believe a rape occurred. I've met lots of vindictive angry women who are ok destroying men's lives with false allegations of rape.

[–]riseoflilith 54 points54 points [recovered]

What can a rape kit prove? That someone had sex? Sex does not equal rape.

Actually, now that I think about it, the girl was 12 years old... I was thinking about a more general case and presuming older. Even so, in OPs case, the girl was already pregnant so they knew she had sex.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 79 points79 points [recovered]

What can a rape kit prove? That someone had sex?

It can prove that the woman at least believed that the sex was rape at the time the sex occurred, soon enough after to actually get the rape kit done.

As opposed to the bullshit stories that come out regularly where a girl fucks a guy, then a month later decides it was rape. Similar to mattress girl from that university. She fucked the dude then waited like 6 months before accusing him of rape. If she had gone to the police immediately and gotten a rape kit the next day, at least she'd have a shred of credibility.

[–]menial_optimist 14 points15 points  (1 child)

It still wouldn't be enough for a lot of people. I was recently arrested for failing to provide a breathalyzer sample on a sunday afternoon as I was driving to meet my mother for lunch. I tried explaining to them I have a medical condition that doesn't allow me to exhale consistently long enough for a reading on the device, but that didn't matter. As soon as I got home I got a lift to the hospital where as soon as I could I got a blood test done which of course came back completely negative for alcohol.

Despite that evidence a lot of people out there commenting on the news story on facebook believed I was drunk, I was a scumbag & I should be thrown in jail.

[–]systemshock869 9 points9 points [recovered]

Is it possible to get an in-utero paternity test?

[–]IM_PRETTY_RACIST 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Yup. They're expensive but it seems liek a cut-and-dry way to prove this guy, assuming she says that's the "only" time she's been raped.

It's just as likely she'd say it happened again and blame some other poor sod while the emotion-filled parents run amok.

[–]systemshock869 11 points11 points [recovered]

Rape/pregnancy case that's easily falsified pops up? In-utero paternity test, loser gets to pay for it -and any future claim of rape related to said baby is thrown out the window. Progressives would shit a proverbial brick.

Edit: you're right though, as long as society keeps falling for female crocodile tears, it will be a hard issue to tackle.

[–]IM_PRETTY_RACIST 10 points11 points  (1 child)

In the liberal mind it wouldn't mean that the rape didn't happen, only that the rapist wasn't the father.

[–]newgrounds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or she did have sex with the person but changed her mind on the desire after.

[–]Hanz_Wunderbarwang 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Determination of paternity can be done during early pregnancy with a simple blood test. It's called a "non-invasive prenatal paternity test". Costs around $1k and can be done after the 14th week of gestation.

They take a regular blood sample from the mother and a dna sample (can be blood, hair, mouth swab) from the potential father(s). Couple weeks later you get the results.

There's a larger margin of error (I think 1%) that narrows significantly if samples are given from all potential fathers (can be tricky with dishonest bitches), so it's not bulletproof. If it says you're the dad I would get a regular paternity test when the kid pops out to be sure.

I'd get the first one asap to save 6 months of hell. Get the second one BEFORE signing the birth certificate to save a potential lifetime of hell.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 22 points23 points  (17 children)

It can prove that the woman at least believed that the sex was rape at the time the sex occurred, soon enough after to actually get the rape kit done.

It proves she had sex. It doesn't prove whether she was raped, or decided to destroy the man's life near the time that sex occurred.

[–]Troll_Name 34 points35 points  (7 children)

Rape kits can identify signs of rape like vaginal bleeding. Also, as already said, it requires claiming rape on the spot rather than months or even years after the fact. This alone could prevent a lot of To Kill a Mockingbird cases.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Rape kits can identify signs of rape like vaginal bleeding.

Rough consensual sex can lead to vaginal bleeding as well. It doesn't prove rape. I agree that an immediate claim is more credible, I'm just saying it isn't proof.

[–]manslutalt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A girl's word isn't proof either, but that's apparently irrelevant

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

A 12 year old is likely going to bleed one way or another. Typically from a first sexual encounter.

Hell I have witnessed vaginal bleeding from prolonged but not rough sex.

Vaginal bleeding is a really poor indicator of rape. It's only marginally more believable than a random bruise.

[–]FevaForDaFlava 10 points10 points [recovered]

I still make my gf bleed at times when we have rough sex since she is 5'0" and petite.

[–]twatbutter 13 points14 points  (1 child)

RAPE!!! Guys his gf's twat was bleeding after he fucked her hard. Orbiting witnesses, who may or may not be friendzoned by his gf, reported loud moans and lots of sharp movements afterwards

[–]Boozt 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The point he is going for if there is a kit done/she comes forward ASAP gives them some credibility that it happened instead of being able to say it happened months after.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's fine, but he called it "proof" of rape. I'm saying it isn't.

[–]killcat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If she was pregnant an amniocentesis could clear him of being the father.

[–]Sdom1 5 points6 points  (1 child)

What can a rape kit prove? That someone had sex? Sex does not equal rape.

Investigators can often determine whether rape was more likely than sex from the damage done to the vaginal walls. Often rape causes much more tearing. They can also collect other physical evidence, including DNA samples from wherever the rapist touched her. This in and of itself does not prove rape, of course, but is important evidence that prosecutors will need to build their case.

[–]WhistlingDead 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Many men would also lose their minds if their 12-y-o daughter came home and accused a schoolmate of rape.

[–]tgeda 7 points8 points  (1 child)

The main issue is that women have a reduced empathy reaction for males, well all humans do.

Just look at your average action movie, imagine if it was little girls or puppies getting shot all over the place. Humans are unfortunately designed to see males as utilities.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 28 points28 points [recovered]

Yep. It's gotten to the point where my first response to any claim of rape, especially on the internet, is "this probably didn't happen."

Unless a woman posts pictures of her face beat up like Rihanna, I'll save my judgment for after the proof comes out in court.

[–]bluedrygrass 43 points44 points  (6 children)

Rihanna, the woman that tried to get together again with the man that beat her up

[–]kragshot 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Yeah...about that. You have to remember that Rihanna comes from TrinidadBarbados and the women over there believe that you're not a real man if you don't smack your woman around to keep her in check. Add to that, the fact that she had been seen more than once, slapping and punching him in public.

Why don't you listen to what comedian Paul Mooney says about the whole Rihanna/Chris Brown thing and see if it doesn't make sense.

[–]cariboo_j 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Erin Pizzey and Karen Straughan are always banging on about how domestic violence is usually reciprocal.

The male and the female partner usually hit each other. And they most often come from abusive families/have substance abuse problems.

It's more about both parties having poor life skills ...and probably being trailer trash... than patriarchal oppression.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The statistics support it as well it's not just a random baseless conclusion.

[–]menial_optimist 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I've only had 3 LTR's in my life and 2 of the 3 women told me at some point they were raped. I don't believe shit either. Guess i'm a victim blamer /s

[–]redolas 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I just realized ... same here. Two of my exes were both "raped". I used to feel so bad for them. But it always felt weird how they didn't feel the need to get away. One is still working with the "rapist" some 10 years later, and the other didn't care to change jobs to get away from her "rapist". She changed eventually, but not because of him.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Truer words were never spoken.

Protip: during a celebrity rape accusation, if endless amounts of women start all coming at once accusing the guy of rape with no evidence, the entire accusation is probably total bullshit. (Kobe, Tiger, etc)

[–]balajig8 1 point2 points  (6 children)

What about the guy agreeing to a lie detection test to prove his innocence?

[–]Gawernator 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Polygraphs aren't lie detectors and are barely better than chance at detecting deception and are not admissible in court.

[–]balajig8 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What about then the guy has an alibi during the time of rape. Say his friends witnessing him.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Unless you have constant survalence who has an alibi 100% of the time? I've been falsely accused of a crime that happened at 2 am.... where we're you at 2 am some random night? Who the fuck knows.... sleeping? I was a bartender and I luckily got everyone to vouch I was at work but there was no clock in or out system. I was lucky they didn't push harder for a conviction.

For the curious it was for trespassing and criminal mischief. The kid had my stolen license and threw gave it to security before running.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I wish those were admissible in court but last I checked, you can't present them as evidence, at least I've never heard of it.

[–]Philhelm 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I saw "rape kit" and wondered where I could purchase one, but then I realized...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In all seriousness, rape kits are critical to stopping serial rapists who go free for years possibly putting innocent men in danger of being wrongfully committed.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 41 points42 points  (2 children)

This poor guy got injured and his life became a nightmare instantly just because some selfish, inmature and stupid girl randomly accused him of rape.

That's the problem if parents want to believe that their daughter is a precious little snowflake and not a girl going through puberty who wants to fuck around but has the moral integrity of an average 12 year old (i.e. none) and is willing to throw anyone and everyone under the bus to avoid upsetting her parents.

(what the article doesn't mention: the mother got wind of her daughter's shenanigans, was appalled, lil Miss Snowflake panicked and threw the boy under the bus by claiming he pressured her; and the stupid mother believed it because this was more comfortable than realizing that her daughters were sluttier than she had given them credit for)

[–]Jaz_the_Nagai 5 points6 points  (1 child)

>moral integrity of an average 12 year old (i.e. none).

Hey! At 12 I had mad integrity. Probably because my father was a scary man who earned my respect, my brother beat me up when I cheated in any game ever, and my mother Polish guilt-tripped me.

[–]Jaz_the_Nagai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

arguably more integrity than I have now... now that I found that the "golden rule" is bullshit.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy 67 points68 points  (12 children)

He should sue that stupid bitch's family so bad that he's driving by in a ferrari in high school honking to the family saying "thanks!!"

[–]1mr_nate_ 60 points61 points  (11 children)

And what the fuck kind of punishment did that cunt of girl get for ruining this innocent boy's life?

[–]Frankly_George 26 points26 points [recovered]

And what the fuck kind of punishment did that cunt of girl get for ruining this innocent boy's life?

Bwhahahaha...you expected her to get punished? To be held accountable?

[–]Orig_analUse_rname 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Well she was a child herself. I hate to defend her but the adults who were gullible and easily manipulated by a fucking pre-teen are more to blame than anyone here.

Think about it. If women are basically big children then a female child must be even lower on the accountability scale.

[–]tsudonimh 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If she was an adult, I'd agree with you. But she was 12, and came from a family that clearly indulged in violence on flimsy rationalizations. I could certainly see her being scared for her safety. The punishment should fall squarely on those who chose to take matters into their own hands and physically assault someone on the say so of a scared little girl.

[–]randarrow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, sue the parents, pity the girl.

[–]alritealritealrite 22 points23 points  (11 children)

Is it illegal to falsely accuse someone of a crime?

[–]orilyrily 23 points24 points  (9 children)

In reality the false accuser would face little to no consequence and the accused will lose everything just by being accused.

Technically the accuser could get charged with perjury or making a false report but these crimes are relatively minor / hard to convict and even if convicted the punishment may be negligible.

You can see how this can easily be used as a tool by malicious people.

[–]1mr_nate_ 17 points18 points  (6 children)

The accuser should be required to pay all damages — whether they be monetary, social, career oriented, etc. She ruined his social reputation, which likely induced some degree of mental scarring, caused him actual physical injury, and sucked money out of him due to her surgery and thousands in court/lawyer fees.

How can they get off with nothing.

[–]orilyrily 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Oh, what I mentioned isn't even the half of it. If the accuser is in the USA and in college - their kangaroo courts can kick the accused right out with no ability to defend themselves and be labeled an offender.

Further, USA prosecutors have a shitload of power and even if the accuser decided to stop this facade... the prosecutor may still pursue the matter themselves.

So the accused get hosed either way and criminally the accuser could get a slap on the wrist.

Now to the topic on hand - damages. You decide to go after your accuser in civil court. Even if you could get damages after years of legal battles and you get a favorable outcome and you get significant damages... the accuser probably doesn't even have the money.

So you are out more money and more time. At least the lawyers love you.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Prosecutors are some of the biggest sons of bitches there are. I got a case thrown out and the fucker came back at me, with lesser charges but still, he couldn't stand the idea of me walking away scott free. Self-righteous fuckers think they're the arbiters of justice.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I've long been of the belief that in these types of cases of a false allegation, the accuser should be sentenced to whatever the accused would have received had they been convicted.

[–]HappyScribe 3 points4 points  (1 child)

How about suing the parents and those who attacked him?

In a broader context, could you sue anyone or organisation who discriminated against you before you went to trial?

[–]orilyrily 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well I don't think it would fall under discrimination but rather defamation. You wouldn't sue anyone before the criminal trial because that outcome can effect the civil case. If you get convicted then people saying your a offender or whatnot is not a false statement.

Either way the hope of getting anything seems bleak and a waste of your time and money... They probably couldn't even pay. There is no justice and the system is not helping.

Lets add fuel to the US justice system hate - look up "Civil Forfeiture".

[–]Rommel0502 19 points20 points  (7 children)

I have long stated - if you falsely accuse someone of a crime, you should then get the same exact punishment they would have received if proven guilty.

No idea why this is not the case.

[–]twatbutter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You really think that fat manginas and high n-count Hamsterinas would ever support this level of equality? It would mean that you can't cry rape for free anymore. Such is the way of our "justice system" right now. Fucking joke.

[–]PeluzaHT[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

This is what he´s supposed to be trying according to what this woman told me. Anyway, who gives this kids life back? Changing school, injuries, social stigma, lost of confidence, walking through hell not knowing if you´re going to go to prison soon, lawyer costs, etc. This is hell. Even if she gets punished.

[–]tgeda 6 points7 points  (3 children)

He has to kill her, that is the only possible satisfaction for such bullshit.

I know this sounds terrible, but thats what i would do. Like-wise its what i would expect done to me if I intentionally ruined someones life to such a degree.

[–]Juffo-WupDeepChild 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Death would be too merciful a punishment. A decade in a torture basement is the only way to go.

[–]1mr_nate_ 47 points48 points  (10 children)

I can't find the quote, so I'll paraphrase, but feminists have said before:

It's better to send 10 falsely accused men to jail than have 1 actual rapist have freedom.

Oh, how logic has crumbled.

[–]gebrial 24 points25 points  (2 children)

The original quote, as uttered by some judge I think, was something along the lines of, "It is better than 1000 guilty men be free than 1 innocent man be punished."

[–]CaptainGloom 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think it was just ten, not 1000. After a 1000 people start to lean more towards totalitarianism.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feminism is aiming to reverse this with guilty-until-proven innocent.

But only for crimes committed by men against women. Crimes committed by women against men (eg paternity fraud) should of course be defined as "non-crime" by society and the law.

You couldn't make this shit up.

[–]haxurmind 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A paraphrase of Sir William Blackstone.

"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone's_formulation

I link and quote the above for convenience.

[–]BradPill 39 points40 points  (12 children)

We have come to a self-proclaimed 'tolerant' society where only a rape-claim is enough to be sentenced - if not by a court, then certainly publicly. As the fraudsters and deceivers are not punished, it is their go-to accusation to cover their own misdeeds. In that sense real criminals have more rights and are better protected by the law than innocent victims. So much so for social justice. And, ironically and diabolically, real rape victims now have a harder time being believed. Vocal women and weak men: this is the result and in the end everybody suffers.

[–]gonorealover 7 points8 points  (9 children)

real rape victims now have a harder time being believed.

you mean all 6 of them ?

Do you honestly believe women are getting raped that much in our society ?

[–]BradPill 6 points7 points  (8 children)

Unfortunately there are many more than we know of - simply because they do not report it (and yes, I know a few of them).
But, I have really no idea why you feel the need to quantify anything I said - any rape is one too many, so whether you label it many or few is not relevant.

[–]twatbutter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You know a few of them but how do you know they were raped? Did you witness the rape yourself?

[–]twatbutter 3 points4 points  (6 children)

You know a few of them but how do you know they were raped? Did you witness the rape yourself?

[–]BradPill 5 points6 points  (5 children)

They are (good) friends that I do trust - but no, I did not witness it. So it's my gullibility vs your skepticism.

[–]twatbutter 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Good friends or not, remember that most women lie to save face. Even if this is "I'll take a bullet for you anytime" level of trust, a woman can lie to save face from peers and the public, and uphold that lie to you. Don't forget to factor in hamstering into all of this

[–]GooRanger3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The same shit as in the old times. I bet she choose an unpopular omega looking guy, not the popular muscular tall alpha.

[–]BradPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. The false-claimers should be prosecuted and compensate their victims - I only read about guys' lives being destroyed but never if the bitch is convicted (no wonder the public doesn't believe in the justice-system any longer...).

[–]denart4 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile feminists still brush off false rape accusations.

[–]kmoran1 14 points14 points [recovered]

One time in high school 9th grade or 10th grade can't remember but I frequently stayed after school working out.

Well one day I go to the restroom walk in and one of my buddies sticks his head out from the big stall hushing me telling me he's getting it on. so i'm like okay whatevers not my problem I say alright and go take a leak wash my hands and leave... few weeks later I get a subpoena I have no idea what it's about.

Turns out he was shagging with a pretty good friend of mine had been to her house and met her parents all that jazz she was the most religious girl at our school and always wore long skirts she was forbidden to wear jeans. She probably got pregnant or something and said the guy raped her. I testified in court against her (bros before hoes) and the judge said to my friend, "I believe you.. but she's a girl. BOOM DONE his life gone. Bitches will not think twice about destroying your life for their own image. She heard my voice she could have easily yelled for help.. I was in the restroom for about 3 minutes even putting my girdle on

[–]klingora 3 points3 points [recovered]

Wait wait what? Are you saying that he actually got convicted?

[–]kmoran1 5 points5 points [recovered]

Yeah guy went to juvi and stuff his parents even had to sell their house afterwards because they lived too close to a school.

[–]DarkOmen597 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Look up the story of Brian Banks

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

That story absolutely infuriates me. The dude had a full ride scholarship to USC and had the talent level, to the point where he was most likely going to the NFL.

Instead, he ended up in jail for a number of years and had to register at the time as a sex offender. I think he eventually got off that list. I think he ended up getting a job at the NFL office, but still a story of "what could have been"

[–]DarkOmen597 9 points10 points  (0 children)

He did get off the list and was offered several try outs. Never made it to the nfl. He played arena football too for a while but I don't think his career took off. Lost a lot of skill being locked up.

[–]RedPharaohRising 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Liar. Charizard doesn't evolve. Mega doesn't count.

[–]1ToSeeAndToHear 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Evolving to Charizard, clearly. Mega is too recent unless OP is a lawyer at 17.

[–]Thatonefuckboi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Mega is so recent that you must be 17.

[–]Forerunner0 7 points7 points [recovered]

"were rape culture is not even close of what happens in America" there is no rape culture in america.

[–]TheRealMouseRat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think he means "false rape accusation culture"

[–]Mildly_Sociopathic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meanwhile in Europe

tumbleweed passes by

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

damn. i would murder a group of adults for lynching my kid like that.

[–]Nilas_T 3 points4 points  (1 child)

To be fair, I'm not sure if it's the girl herself that should be sued, but rather the authorities who took the words of a young teenager without further investigation.

[–]CaptainGloom 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Nope, sue her. Imprison her. It will be a learning experience.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Nice body, but her facial features... well, you know how it goes.

So she's a "Butter Face"...everything looks great, but her face.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

BUT-HER-FACE OH NOW I GET IT

Similar to a catfish, which is thin from one angle but fat from another

[–]bonekeeper 2 points3 points  (1 child)

In Brazil we say she's a shrimp... ignore the head, eat the rest!

[–]CaptainGloom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There should be a harsher penalty for lying to the court through your teeth like that, such as 5 years imprisonment

[–]icecow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

False Rape Allegation Culture

[–]osborn18 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wait how the fuck cant this guy sue the girls parent?.

Like where are you from op.

Am curious where can the law not protect a legally innocent child from getting beat up

[–]PeluzaHT[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He did sue the parents and the girl, according to who told me this. Of course law protects him... but the fact he experienced a nightmare, is what this whole thing is about: he did nothing, and all the social stigma still hit him hard anyway, even proving his innocence.

[–]ironblacksmith 2 points3 points  (0 children)

just because some selfish, inmature and stupid girl randomly accused him of rape.

She is all of those things, but don't think she's different for it. AWALT.

[–]tgeda 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Its interesting. Women in many situations are able to divert the fury that would have been inflected on them to a male.

Instantly becoming the victim when they were previously the "bad guy." That sort of power is terrifying.

[–]chocobaby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"All hail the vagina" is the BP mantra. "Society" has swallowed it whole. SOme f'ed up sh&t there.

[–]The_Reddit_Wanderer 3 points3 points [recovered]

Jesus Christ that's terrifying.

It feels like women are weaponizing their sexuality now to literally ruin men's lives. At this point I feel that girls in college could probably threaten male profs with rape accusations to get what they want instead of actually sleeping with them.

I don't know how common the prof-student scenario is, but I still feel like rape accusations seem more and more like a "weapon".

[–]1Snivellious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting use of "rape culture" in that last sentence. We very much do have a culture fixated on rape, even if it's not in the way that the term was originally coined.

[–]tgeda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reading that literally makes me feel nauseous. You ruined my evening man

[–]Worthlessplanet 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What became of the storyteller?

[–]Straydog1018 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The "Rape Accusation" is literally the modern day equivalent of declaring women witches and burning them at the stake. I mean you can be accused of it by anyone, for any reason, with people just accepting it as true no matter what if a woman says it, for a reason as fucking stupid as the fact that they got pregnant at 12 and didn't wanna get in trouble themselves. I mean, I honestly can't think of anything that makes my blood boil more then a fucking 12 year old getting pregnant, getting called out by her parents, and deciding to save herself by pointing to a fucking RANDOM guy and saying "yeah... that guy? He raped me. Because I'm already a slut at 12 and am pregnant but can't fucking man up and admit it, he raped me." I mean if it wasn't such a morbid subject, that would be like something you would see in a sitcom! Holy hell its so amazing how easy it is for women to currently get men busted for rape, even if its not supported in reality whatsoever, the guy usually still has his life ruined.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Women Are Wonderful .... welcome to TRP.

[–]Badboythrowawayacct 6 points6 points [recovered]

Maybe the girl telling this story is delusional or retarded. It sounds like bullshit. I'm an attorney too, and it just rings false to me.

So there's a mob chasing a 14 year old, he sustained severe injuries, and there's no police to protect him or investigate the assault and battery he's suffered? Just because he was accused of something? Where did this purported mob attack occur?

Frankly, I've fucked hundreds of chicks, all somewhere on the continuum of crazy, and I haven't ever remotely been accused of rape or sexual assault.

Once, I fucked some dudes wife and after he found out HE tried to convince her that she would never do that unless I forced her. HE actually wanted her to file a false report with the police. Obviously, she and I had a good laugh over it while I continued to fuck her in his bed. But to my point, it was his idea, not hers.

I don't visit this sub often, so maybe I'm missing something. Can someone can explain to me how consent ever becomes an ambiguous issue that leads to rape accusations? Are people suggesting that all women do this or is there a subset of women who do this?

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez 4 points5 points  (3 children)

False rape accusations are like the boogeyman of the manosphere. I've never run across this. However, I am in middle America and our women are often as sane as they are insane so maybe on the coasts it's a bigger problem.

[–]Juffo-WupDeepChild 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think you've inadvertently come to a similar conclusion as I have regarding the red pill. I live in a relatively small city in central Ohio, and while I do see many of the concepts espoused on this sub play out in my observed behaviors of others, it is rarely to the same degree that others describe in their posts. I truly believe that the destabilization of the sexual marketplace is directly correlated to population density. Men and women are both more likely to settle when they have fewer options available to them. All I ever really see in my city are watered-down versions of RP truths and psuedo-feminists, never the full blown insanity I read about online.

[–]LeonZan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone accuses my kids of rape and then touches them without any evidence whatsoever is going to get a knife through their ballsack.

[–]becredible 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You can't evolve a Charizard.

[–]CaptainGloom 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think that's why he was so fixated on the idea. He was consumed by his false notion

[–]neocelt 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I hope the comment about "RAPE CULTURE" was a fecituious joke.

[–]SgtBrutalisk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Facetious? If you can't spell a word, use a synonym.

[–]TheRealMouseRat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

what country exactly was this in?

[–]PeluzaHT[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Argentina. This is, of course, not common, specially in middle class or upper classes. I´ve been in more than 50 countries, including North America, and lived and worked in California for a while. No, I don´t live in a country were law doesn´t work at all, despite what some people might think if they´ve never visited Buenos Aires.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Trp stories makes me wanna record every interaction i have:/

[–]chocobaby 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Not the worst idea these days. Turn on the recorder in your phone and GET THAT CONSENT. "You want to have sex?, me inside you sex? You sure?" Then get busy. After you finish, send that clip to your email. Done.

[–]yGTWgtNrco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After you finish, send that clip to your email.

Email can easily be forged. Indeed, a large percentage of email is.

I've set up a website where you can upload files up to 2gb and have them stored securely forever.

But, of course, you should use equipment under your control for this. To do so, you merely need a computer, tor, and a webserver. If anyone would like help to set this up, let me know and I'll be glad to help you out.

[–]MaseWindew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow actually kinda hard to believe this happened. Just goes to show its always shoot first ask questions later with society.

P.s. Charizard can't evolve, at least not when you were 14.

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[–]Merica911 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Was the tinder date the actual girl?

[–]PeluzaHT[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, she was classmate with this guy, so she was 2 years older.

[–]Redjatis 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This post is a bout a hypothetical situation that may have, or may not have ever happened. I understand it fits TRP Narrative. But it's a ghost story, and a waste of our time. Circlejerk Ensue.

[–]PeluzaHT[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP here. Unfortunately, I don´t have any possiblity to check. But this woman had nothing to win telling me this story, and this poor guy was close to her. I´d say this is probably true, at least the main story, woudn´t know much about the details. But yeah, take this story cautiously.

[–]occupythekitchen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so true I had my first orgasm at 15 sex was far from my mind at 14

[–]redestofthereds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

some years later he won the trial proving his innocence.

Yay! Happy ending!?!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i've had this happen at school where a girl blamed me for hitting her for no reason. I never even knew the girl and I was in first grade. I guess that is life. But damn that sucks so much more.

[–]arosebyanyother_user 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish I could say that I am shocked, but as I lived through something pretty similar; I am not.

Poor bastard. These people (sadly almost ALWAYS women) must be stopped.

[–]jace81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone who has been on both sides of this, I don't even believe rape happens at all.

[–]drummmmmergeorge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Girls who date online are the a no no. I got a hot blond for a 2nd date, and I met her on campus, she is 3 years older than me, but a man is judged by his achievement and accomplishments, my attitude is strong and I am well sound. She is just a pretty girl. Honestly, I didn't plan this far, since I was on a reject streak, but it doesn't matter how many times you fail, no one will remember it, they will only remember you invited the light bulb and forget about the lonely and sad days.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone who injured him need to be brought up on assault and battery charges as they fucked up a 14 year old child. Any adults who participated in any capacity needs to be charged with endangering a minor on top.

If you group up and fuck up a 14 year old your group belongs in prison.

This kid was wronged by many people and all of them are guilty of something rather serious.

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