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Red Pill ExampleFirst cheerleaders, then referees, now coaches. Bill Burr explains how women are sick of men enjoying football and having fun without them, so they're infiltrating. (self.TheRedPill)

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Getting caught up on the Monday Morning Podcast at work today when I came across this gem. Thought you guys would appreciate this.

Tl;dr: Women are becoming active participants in the NFL quicker and quicker, year after year. Not because they enjoy football and want to be involved, but because they hate for men to enjoy something without them.

With Super Bowl Sunday coming up day after tomorrow, this felt especially relevant reflecting on how many manipulated men across the country will be only allowed to watch the big game in the company of his owner.

I'm an enormous fan of the NFL, and it's sickening to see one of the few pastimes that historically have been ubiquitously male being androgenized by the attention-seeking of women. Women have no real interest in the mathematics and statistics of the sport, the intelligence of the design, and especially the physicality involved.

The underlying reason for female intrusion of an all-male sport is not because women feel they should be equal in this arena, but quite the opposite. The honest reason women want to move into the realm of the NFL and football in general is solely because they are excluded.

As a married man, Burr states in fucking plain as day terms here the bald truth: women hate to see men having fun and enjoying something without them.

Lesson learned: Next time we find something we truly enjoy on a grand scale that is completely male in its existence, we keep that shit under wraps. Rule one, goddamnit.

Just some thoughts to get your Friday rolling. Happy weekend to all my unmarried brethren out there who will be watching the big game with their real companions rather than their captors.


[–][deleted] 108 points109 points  (11 children)

Nothing makes me laugh harder then the bluehaired legbeards trying to amend title IX because its unfair that women dont have the same athletic scholarships and coaching compensation as men.

Meanwhile 99.7 percent of NCAA athletic revenue is mens sports.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 85 points86 points  (1 child)

And female pornstars and models are paid something like 10x what male pornstars and models are. What's you point, ladies?

[–]EvrythingISayIsRight 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol they flip the script on that like "women in porn are being exploited by horny old men into selling their bodies against their will". Yet again, rationalizing it into a way to blame it on men

[–]ioncloud9 61 points62 points  (5 children)

Women's sports exist because men's sports pay for it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Women's sports exist because dudes like watching chicks bounce up and down wearing skimpy uniforms (Gymnastics and stuff).

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Beach volleyball is better then porn

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 55 points56 points  (9 children)

Scouts too... Even though women have their own equivalent organisation, they want to be let into the men's.

Why? It can only be because they are excluded or because the male one is better.

[–]bluedrygrass 22 points23 points  (2 children)

or because the male one is better.

A valid point. It isn's enough for females to have their own leagues and organizations. Females only events SUCKS for females. Females prosper the most in mixed ambients, where they get the attention and favours of the males and at the same time they have some kind of female companion/vallet waiting around and to go to piss with.

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Male sporting organizations, like the NBA, are always going to draw more. The simple prowess of male players far exceeds that of the female players. Of course there are even exceptional female athletes, but those are all few in number and rather insignificant.

That's not to say that women don't excel at anything, but when it comes to competition, men are simply better in that category for the simple fact that men are often more aggressive and competitive.

[–]interestedplayer 14 points15 points  (1 child)

It's not just that men are more aggressive and competitive. They are literally better.

  1. Men have wider variances in the distributions of their skills, therefore produce more positive outliers

  2. Men are dominant in every aspect of physical performance: speed, strenght, agility, reaction times etc.etc. ... because that's what they are created to do.

[–]Tingly_Fingers 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Women don't know how to push themselves beyond a breaking point. They give up when lifting is too hard. They can never get that "just one more rep" up, they can never push through the brick wall when their legs feel like jello, and they can't take constructive criticism at face value.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 262 points263 points  (137 children)

Not just football. There's been a big push over the last few years for video games, comic books, and even heavy metal music to be more female-friendly.

[–]depedestalize_it 179 points180 points  (64 children)

and even heavy metal music

Which is hilarious. There is hardly a group that gives less of a fuck about who you are and where you come from than metal fans. Your music rocks? Hell yeah! You can drink until you pass out and then some more? Hell yeah!

The metal scene is a meritocracy in its very own, slightly weird way.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 123 points124 points  (56 children)

Not only that, but metal fans take pride in not giving a shit what society thinks of them. So when feminists cry about metal being "too male", metal fans will just chuckle and go back to headbanging to the new Megadeth album.

[–]TRPMaidenSlayer 57 points58 points  (19 children)

Unfortunately the new Megadeth album is pretty boring.

Anyway, not too concerned about metal getting infiltrated. There have always been metal chicks and there always will be, but they'll remain the minority.

The female lead singers who suck won't sell, and there's nobody there to prop it up because no "establishment" cares about metal. It will remain mostly a sanctuary, and not even by design. Just because it's seriously aggressive.

Arch Enemy (female lead singer: Angela Gossow) had a few good albums, but everyone knows they're carried by the guitarists.

Anyway, fear not.

[–]dabrah1 15 points16 points  (5 children)

I remember listening to Arch Enemy back in middle school (i'm 25 now). The female singer was great, but the instrumentals are what kept me going back to them years later, in college and even now sometimes.

[–]Trpidation 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Same here, the guitar work is amazing in their stuff. I remember being in high school and being blown away by their instrumentals, and finding out they had a female vocalist and going "meh, that's cool I guess."

[–]dabrah1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Exactly , she does pretty vanilla screaming and no clean vocals

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the new lead singer better. Not a metal fan though but been to a show with the old lead singer.

[–]douglas_p 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I think the new Megadeth album is pretty good. I've been listening to it all week. Definitely their best release in a long time, IMO.

[–]DoesNotMatterAnymore 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I miss Broderick. And idd, it's really boring.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 3 points4 points  (3 children)

The last good song I remember Megadeth playing was Black Swan

The new lead singer of Arch Enemy is terrible, except for one song....

War Eternal (amazing to blast, even better to play)

Unfortunately, I never had a whammy bar and 23rd fret to do the solo justice.

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[–]Malachhamavet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean there's nightwish within temptation and evanescence if she qualified as some form of goth operatic metal and they are pretty big. I mean no industry is going to change a service or product if the result is no one buying it I can't imagine an actual female equivalent of megadeth becoming anywhere near as popular not because the industry hates women in metal but because women don't want that music.

[–]youoweyourancestors 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I have to disagree. Have you seen the recent Phil Anselmo controversy? He did a joke sieg heil and said "white power" and big tough metalheads are getting their knickers in a knot. Despite the odd fan saying something supporting his right to free speech, it hasn't saved him. He's had to cancel a tour and it's sickening to see how many fellow metal fans have become such cucks. Although he did apologize, breaking a red pill rule. Had he not, I wonder how things would be going for him right now.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Phil has a history of being an relenting piece of shit for 2 decades. The community going "yea racism sucks and isn't metal" is healthy and in line with metal ethos. You can't have a meritocracy if you exclude people from it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I really gotta give credit to Dimebag's widow, Rita Haney, over how she's handled this controversy. She's basically said "Phil's apologized for saying something stupid, so as far as I'm concerned it's done with."

She's basically the anti-Yoko Ono. She was very supportive of Pantera during their career, and Pantera fans hold her in high regard. I met her a few years ago at the Rockstar Energy Drink Uproar Festival and did a shot with her. Cool lady.

[–]SpinPlates 19 points20 points  (2 children)

I recently saw lamb of god live and there were a handful a women. Maybe 100 in the whole venue of 2000+ And I think I saw 2 that I would have fucked...neither of which I would have bragged about.

I love the metal scene.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They have a new album it seems. I pray they havent gone the soft, mainstream route that other bands have. All That Remains did it. As I Lay Dying did it. Destroy the Runner did it...

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Lol its hilarious when girls I meet end up coming out to my shows (usually not metal girls in the slightest) but me drumming and swinging my hair around sure gives them intense tingles. All of the sudden they "love" metal.

I've got a show tonight and one of these girls is apologizing saying she actually cant come now (probably a shit test) and it's fun because I couldnt give a shit. It's always funny when non-metal heads apologize for not being able to make it out. They think I actually care lol the people I actually care about being there are going to be thrashing in the crowd without me even asking them.

I actually posted about girls and feminism infiltrating metal, it's one of my biggest fears. I hope it's an irrational one like you say.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol I'd love to see a dressed up plate awkwardly trying to avoid the pit goons as they get tossed around.

Girls and feminism have infiltrated underground hardcore really badly but I just can't see metalheads giving half a shit about someone bleating that moshing is sexist.

[–]porkmaster 42 points43 points  (6 children)

I didn't even really notice SJWs until they came for comic books. Fake "fans" who want to change the thing they supposedly love. Just more women trying to change something that interests mainly males. Same with video games. I don't care if girls and women like comics and games. That's great, join the fun. But don't try to change the existing comics/games to suit your tastes. Make your own.

[–]catacamas 26 points27 points  (4 children)

I think they want to control the content of comics and video games because it's about brainwashing the next generation of men, not because they want some sort of representational fairness or inclusivity. Same reason fascist governments control the media in their countries.

[–]MelodyMyst 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Ding ding ding... We have a winner. Get ready for The Fourth Wave.

[–]catacamas 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Yes, well put. They're two steps ahead of us; we're playing from behind.

Imagine a whole generation of boys who grow up to be bigger white knight manginas than the worst today, sensitized to every obnoxious SJW ideal (e.g. that viewing or admiring the female form is 'wrong', that there's a 'rape culture', etc.), and ready to do their bidding and dismantle the Bill of Rights to institute 'femfascism'.

I think it's more important than ever to create so-called "sexist" media for boys, to defend the unashamed creation thereof, to strengthen MRAs, and to provide strong male role models for boys so they learn not to bend to 'femfascists'. The SJW crazies are running roughshod over society, and there's no limit to what they'll do if left unchecked.

[–]QuantumDeath666 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I think the most horrifying aspect will be boys getting hormone "treatments" to help curb their boyishness so that they act like a well-behaved girl in the classroom.

Just makes me want to puke.

[–]ab209709 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is eerily similar to giving young boys ritalin to curb their "hyperactive" behavior. My Third Grade teacher (a woman surprise, surprise) wanted my mom to get me tested for ADD and medicated due to the fact I stared out the window and often didn't pay attention. Fuck that nonsense. All I wanted to do was go outside and play or day dream about dinosaurs.

[–]QuantumDeath666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

who want to change the thing they supposedly love.

EXACTLY. And look at Muslims, they're like the opposite of the spectrum. They supposedly hate us and our western culture but they come here in droves seeking free rides. And then of course they try to destroy it. Like holy shit what is wrong with people?

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (8 children)

video games

And the push to make video games "female-friendly" is one reason why GamerGate started.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 28 points29 points  (35 children)

even heavy metal music

How are they looking to make metal more female friendly?

Turn it down to 6 and ban standing areas at concerts?

[–]southernmost 54 points55 points  (2 children)

Mosh pits are another form of rape I guess.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I guess they haven't been to many metal concerts in Europe, where 15 y.o. girls mosh it out with 40 y.o. farts like yours truly and nobody gets groped or hurt while sweaty good times are had by everyone.

Stick that up your cognitive dissonance, femcunts.

[–]VodkaTankerSpill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was always jealous of Europe metal scene. Best death, black, Viking metal bands from Nordic countries with frequent tours.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 5 points6 points  (30 children)

How are they looking to make metal more female friendly?

Meet Babymetal.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (12 children)

Just in case anyone gets the wrong idea, Babymetal isn't a western feminist movement to make metal more feminine, but a Japanese movement to make an idol group that's a tad metal.

Idol groups themselves are made to appeal to the opposite sex, in this case it's meant to appeal to men who like rock music.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 20 points21 points  (11 children)

Amusingly, feminists hate Babymetal. I saw one editorial written by a feminist not long ago that described Babymetal as a band "only a pedophile could love."

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (7 children)

Yeah, feminists are great buzz kills.

Just so no one get's the wrong idea, the group isn't meant to appeal to pedos either, the girls look young but back then that's like them 15-16, obviously they'll appeal to pedos, but that's not why the group was created.

The girls themselves were part of an idol elevator group, it's like drama school for these girls so in their teenage years they focus on dance and song so they can be good enough to join the big groups when they're in their best years, 18+.

Ultimately what happened is one of the producers in the school was a big fan of metal so he thought why not give these girls a metal tint, it worked better than anticipated and they got fairly big, like top 10 in JP charts and popular amongst weebs in the US.

[–]Baldr12 6 points7 points  (6 children)

In Japan you can legally Ffck 13 year olds girls (One of the lowest in first world countries, in mine it's 14 years)

Pedophilia it's a philia for pre-puberty children.

Sorry for the clarification, I just hate when people from the USA (like those feminists) try to apply their ethics to other cultures.

[–]Lurker_IV 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Have you seen this video? It goes over the differences in age and attraction definitions in a very amusing way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpruWzaUPGY

[–]Baldr12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was an interesting ... view lol

[–]1AmlanceJockey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good. Now i dont feel bad about liking Babymetal.

[–]CardinalGuitar 8 points9 points  (2 children)

There is ZERO focus on the music. During the solo they don't even show the guitarist (who is already in the background) once on the screen wtf!

[–]Janus_Fawkes 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I'm so confused. It's like someone dumped tofu into beef stew.

[–]GrandmasterHurricane 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Or put mayonnaise on a steak.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oddly enough, the Japs do both of those things.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 6 points7 points  (4 children)

The music isnt bad, the choreography is terrible. You dont r&b dance to metal. You dont dance at all.

[–]surfjihad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Japan (and now K pop) are a whole manga cutsie-ization of other music forms and pop.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is fresh, thanks for the tip.

[–]Dimethyltrip_to_mars 0 points1 point  (0 children)

shit, i know of an all-female doom metal band.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Due to the fact that print media is dying as people get their news online, there are now only two American magazines devoted to hard rock and metal: Revolver and Decibel.

Revolver is a more mainstream publication that caters to a younger audience. For years, they've had an annual "Hottest Chicks in Metal" issue where they showcase female metal musicians who are also quite attractive. The fans like it, and the female musicians like it because it's free publicity for their band.

Decibel, the other American metal magazine, is one that caters to the indie hipster crowd. A couple of years back, the SJWs who write for the magazine decided it was sexist that Revolver has an annual "Hottest Chicks in Metal" issue because we shouldn't be judging women on their looks. So they put out their own "women in metal" issue, and nearly all of the female metal musicians they focused on were either fat or ugly. It was such a blatant attempt to pander to feminists I could only laugh.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Why is the advice always to hide?

The fuck?

Just say fucking no. Me and my boys are watching the game together and told our girlfriends they can do the same. All they do is talk through the game and gaggle at commercial and make useless comments that have no value to the game.

Just say no.

You can say no. Hiding is for pussies. Stand up for yourself or shit like this will keep happening

[–]menial_optimist 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It could never be that women in general just aren't interested in gaming. It must be because of male privilege and lack of female characters.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because there's a giant untapped market that these areas are leaving untapped by not gearing it towards women. It's a marketing ploy not a feminist initiative.

[–]SwissPablo 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I've known plenty of women who loved metal and had no intention of changing it. Never understood why people want to change something perfectly good already.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's everything... look at yahoo, they are being sued for discrimination against males.. 3 years ago the company was 20% females, now 3 years later it's at 80% females, it's only dudes, getting laid off.

[–]Ifuckinglovepron 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Well the good thing is that all of those things are controlled by the free market, so it doesn't matter.

They only really have an in with things like the army since that is government regulated.

[–]bluedrygrass 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Not completely true. It doesn't even matter if something sold less, the ideas must and will be pushed. And the people will just go along. What are you gonna do, not watch NFL because it has female commentators? Not play a videogame because the protagonist is a strong independent woman?

Not gonna watch a movie because half the fight scenes depict girly girls throwing mountains of men around?

You'll gonna keep doing all those things. And if not, the vast majority will.

Conversely, doesn't matter if a really non-pc movie would be loved and sell a lot, it's not gonna be released. It's better to lose potential moneys than to go against the narrative and never be allowed to work again.

[–]Ifuckinglovepron 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't watch NFL, so no comment there.

As for the others, if the game is good, then people will play it regardless of the character being male or female or whatever. And if it is worth playing, who cares if it has a male or female?

Same for movies or comics, if it sucks it will fail, if it is good, then more power to it.

That is my point, in contrast to these things, in the military, even if females DO NOT perform wel the government can still force it to happen. They can't force you to watch a sport, play a game, read a comic or see a movie.

[–]thundertool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That stuff was always male and female friendly though. I know girls who have read comics and played video games their whole lives. None of them bitch about how they are.

[–]thechariot83 76 points77 points  (4 children)

The Rooney rule is such fucking garbage. Roger Goodell is a fucking spineless prick. You hire the right man/woman for the job. Period. With the Rooney Rule you have to interview at least X amount of minorities for executive positions and now they are throwing women into that 'minority' mix. What a fucking crock of shit. Fuck the NFL. Fuck Goodell. Fuck any woman that gets one of these jobs and actually thinks they were the right person for the job.

[–]Grosweld 12 points13 points  (1 child)

This is one of the big issues with feminism and 'equality' in general that worries me; women being hired over men to fill a quota when they may be unsuited for the position.

[–]tb87670 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is the problem with affirmative action in general, hiring on basis of skin color or sex and not on basis of merit. And it's legally sanctioned racism/sexism by the government. Needless to say it needs to go, another leftist pet project that does more harm to society than good.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 58 points59 points  (4 children)

That's why we keep up the anti-female rhetoric here at TRP - to make it so unpleasant that females actively steer away from us.

If we all hated women as much as our rhetoric suggests, this recent concern about "rape supporters" would actually be justified.

Evoking disgust in women is the only way to get them to fuck off long enough to hear ourselves think.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The mere idea of TRP not pandering to women is so repulsive to them that they literally cannot stand this place. Their sense of entitlement is incredible.

[–]Eugenics2015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LOL, this should be top comment.

[–]thereddespair 47 points48 points  (10 children)

why cant some women just let their men have their space. is that really that much to ask for. seriously almost every guy ive engaged had this as an issue with them.

[–]TRPMaidenSlayer 27 points28 points  (2 children)

The good ones do. It's a solid LTR litmus test. If you're 6 months into a relationship, and she loses her shit over you spending a Sunday afternoon without her, she's gotta be gone.

Mine loves it when I peace out for an extended workout. House is actually quiet for once since I'm the noisemaker usually. Both of us wouldn't want it any other way

[–]Eloni 14 points15 points  (1 child)

My gf is gonna vacate our apartment come Super Bowl so I can have some guys over and bro down. And I'm not even American and don't root for either of the teams. I can't manage to pity the "manipulated men across the country will be only allowed to watch the big game in the company of his owner", because to be honest I'm just disgusted.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Seriously, you only lose the ground you give up.

You want to watch the fucking game, watch it. She's either cheering along with you or watching Netflix in the other room.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I think it's because modern women have become misogynists.

When I was a kid, football was a huge deal. Either you played it, watched it or both. Bowl games were events--big parties with dozens of families. There was drinking. There was carrying on. The men watched the game and managed the booze. The women socialized and managed the food. The kids ran wild. Everyone was happy.

But now women just hate each other. They hate doing women things. They hate being seen as women. So they want to be men and do what men do. They use their children as weapons against each other, picking on any and every small behavior as a reason to cast stones at each other. And men just fucking let it happen...

...enjoy the decline.

[–]thereddespair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of the other reps, which I can agree to anyway this was diff - the misogyny of women.

I was thinking earlier, doesnt it give them time to go out with their own friends or do your own thing, isnt there a movie you want to see that your man doesnt care about. I remember where I came from, and family, if the guys would have a guy party/gathering the women would just have one of their own or just spend time getting in touch with the other women at the party, but giving the men their space - they have their own stuff they want to talk about and they can admit to have no interest in those of men. Everyone is happy, sure bickering every once in a while, trying to one up each other but who doesnt. Yeah almost hte same as you described, only its basketball not football there.

One thing i noticed as a difference. When men behave like what youd describe here as beta foot stool, men where i came from would ridicule this man and at times even women would join in on the laugh to the point that they would even accuse or mock the guy as a homosexual - they would question if he is a man or not. Men would not cuddle each other, to reinforce the beta behavior - negative though of course is its gonna be hard life for the beta but it forces them to man up more. Here, its labelled as progressive i think and not seen as bad. Of course who knows, how much american influence and lifestyle has been absorbed there by now lol. It results in minimizing this ass licking of women, less pampering. I guess there was respect for men because men do not let themselves be stepped on.

But I wonder, is it because we were not as progressive unlike here in america, that this is just what modern culture is like. I would imagine it would probably look barbaric to the eyes of women here/and some men.

[–]GrandmasterHurricane 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's simple, women live for attention.

[–]jereMyOhMy 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think the real answer here is that for the last few decades, women have been conditioned by every piece of influential media around them that their goal in life should be to find a man, lock him down, and pop some kids out. They're not taught or conditioned to value changing the planet for the better, or reinventing a field. They're already biologically predispositioned to be the weaker species in comparison to men, and to need men to survive, and mass media has preyed on that with every ad, every article, every news story, every product, every show and every movie. They're not taught to just be a fucking person and live their own life and have their own prerogatives outside of existing for a man.

Earlier this morning I had a Facebook notification, and lazily scrolled through my feed to check it and the first post was a photo of some beta male guy with an undercut, a smoking hot bitch and two kids, all dressed up the same and the caption just read "Goals man. Goals." We can't be surprised when 99% of the women around us end up being nutcases with attachment issues and inferiority complexes when this is what they feel like the most important things in life are.

[–]Dimethyltrip_to_mars 1 point2 points  (1 child)

what's the word on female train enthusiasts?

[–][deleted] 147 points148 points  (26 children)

The only acceptable female involvement in American football is the Lingerie Football League.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 59 points60 points  (22 children)

You mean other than cheerleaders, right?

[–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (21 children)

Clarification: actually involved in the game itself and not part of the sideshow.

My thoughts on cheerleaders though. I played through to the college level so I'm a bit of a purist and see football as one of the ultimate male bonding experiences in our culture today. As much as I enjoy looking at cheerleaders and they definitely add to the entertainment value, the game would be fine without them.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 24 points25 points  (3 children)

Oh, I agree. As a player, I didn't give a shit about cheerleaders, but as a fan, I don't mind looking at some nice tail dancing around during timeouts, etc.

[–]bluedrygrass 5 points6 points  (2 children)

As a boxing fan, i hate the round count girls. The two things don't mix, they're just distracting and ruins the mood.

Like fucking and watching an horror movie at the same time.

[–]ser0402 30 points31 points  (10 children)

My younger sister cheered throughout high school and I'd always here the ridiculous assertion that cheerleading is a sport. The best response I've ever come up with to that statement is "yeah that's why your 'sport' is used to get people pepped up for the actual sport being played."

[–]speed3_freak 49 points50 points  (8 children)

Actual cheer competitions is just as much of a sport as any kind of gymnastics. Cheering on the sideline at a football game is not a sport.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (7 children)

freaky though with the dolled up 10 years olds.

[–]systemshock869 31 points31 points [recovered]

Raising our next generation of sluts

[–]speed3_freak 17 points18 points  (4 children)

I was more thinking of College competition squads. You know, the teams where huge muscled guys throw petite chicks through the air and hold them above their heads.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yes, those are much more enjoyable.

[–]MaxV331 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yea that is definitely a sport, the little pompom and chanting thing is not.

[–]Rathadin 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I was never interested in that stuff, but I always thought it was funny when people would call those guys gay...

Yeah, they put their hands all over a bunch of hot girls' asses and legs. That's totally gay.

[–]Trpidation 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"yeah that's why your 'sport' is used to get people pepped up for the actual sport being played."

Lol that's fucking brilliant. It's also a perfect illustration of women's importance in the world. They hang out on the sidelines while the men are out on the field doing what people care about. Silly ass women.

[–]Valentinus9171 5 points6 points  (5 children)

If you want the ultimate male bonding experience become an army paratrooper, a Ranger or a Marine. Football is just a game. Although soon enough women will be walking around with tan berets on, and the day will be dark and terrible indeed.

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[–]redfallhammer 119 points120 points  (44 children)

It's only a matter of time before a female NFL kicker. Then a few years later, the NFL turns into flag football so the ladies can play but will probably be disguised as 'addressing the concussion issue.'

Women ruin everything that men can enjoy without them.

I'm fine with females playing football but they need their own fucking league.

[–]RPRedhead 41 points42 points  (16 children)

Their own league exists. Google "iwfl".

Edit: I never said anything about the iwfl being "good" or "popular" or "worthwhile". I just said it exists. Has anyone seen a game?

[–]coffee_and_lumber 30 points30 points [recovered]

The truth is, practically nobody wants to watch female sports, not even women.

[–]bluedrygrass 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Women wants to watch female sports less than males do. Women wants to watch male sports, because at least they get to see someone they'd like to be fucked by; to see fit good looking females isn't exactly their favourite hobby.

Some (desperate) males on the other hand watch and enjoy females sports. Example, the sorry individuals that watch female tennis only to see a couple bunnies semi naked in a skirt doing orgasmic sounds every time they move the racket.

[–]sushisection 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The only exception is female MMA, because its badass watching two chicks beat each other up

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

U kidding? I love womens beach volleyball

[–]IDOWNVOTECATSONSIGHT 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Apparently this makes you desperate.

[–]dabrah1 12 points13 points  (5 children)

better yet, look up legends football league aka the "lingerie league"

[–]FRedington 17 points17 points [recovered]

"lingerie league"

Now, instead of HB8s and HB9s suited up like this, think of the same thing depicting the ladies of "this is what a feminist looks like".
... gag me with a spoon.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Which no one gives a shit about, for obvious reasons.

This is why feminists don't just create their own versions of things. They have to specifically infiltrate things that are already popular. Preferably things that were created by, and for, men. In this case, the NFL.

[–]Dimethyltrip_to_mars 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i used to know a lady who did tackle football in her spare time. and volleyball. she was in her late 30s maybe early 40s. used to do competition weighlifting in college.

her gripes about the football playing was their usage of male-specific gear, since they don't make helmets, shoulder pads, etc for women, apparently, and their lack of insurance, since they were voluntarily playing the sport.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Women%27s_Football_Association

none of this surprises me, as women's rugby is a thing.

[–]The_Man11 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It's only a matter of time before a female NFL kicker.

If she's good enough to beat a man for that position then I have no problem with it. I want field goals. I don't care who kicks them.

[–]Schindog 13 points14 points  (7 children)

To be fair, the concussion issue needs to be addressed. It would just be nice if it weren't leveraged in such a petty way.

[–]VinylGuy420 19 points20 points  (6 children)

Concussions would all but cease to exist in football if the league instituted a no spearing rule. Basically quit launching your body at another guy in hopes of making a big hit, that leads to concussions and a lot a missed tackles.

Head up tackling, like the Seahawks practice, gave the some of the least amount of defensive injuries while also keeping a number two defense. Wrap up the legs and roll to the ground. No missed tackles bouncing off the guy and no injuries.

Rugby for example uses this technique and is highly successful in having a fraction of the concussions the NFL has, without pads.

[–]Schindog 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah exactly. The adoption of the rugby tackle is probably going to be the biggest long-term quality-of-life improvement for players in a very long time.

[–]bluedrygrass 4 points5 points  (0 children)

without pads.

I suspect this is the main reason rugby have less concussions. You're less willing to throw yourself at things if you aren't armored.

[–]Hotblack_Desiato_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rugby for example uses this technique and is highly successful in having a fraction of the concussions the NFL has, without pads.

Pads and helmets are the reason for the concussions. They allow people to go that much harder. Same with gloves in boxing. Gloves don't protect the other guy's jaw, they protect your hand, so you can hit harder.

Remove the pads and you'll see injury rates go down.

[–]Trpidation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I doubt it will get to flag football because the amount of time it will take to get to that point is longer than it will take for the misandry bubble to burst. But if something goes horrifically wrong and the bubble doesn't burst... Well, there goes a lot of great shit that men once enjoyed.

I just wish we could have an equal rights MMA league, male vs. female. "But wait, I thought women could do anything just as well as a man could!"

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (14 children)

If she can split the uprights who the fuck cares?

[–]redfallhammer 31 points32 points  (8 children)

It's the erosion and lowering of standards. A kicker is a leg in the door that followed the foot(ref). And once that female kicker gets obliterated by a full speed hit from a 300lb dude on national TV, what exactly do you think will happen?

Every little boy learns at a young age that little girls can't/don't play as hard. That doesn't change as we get older. Even animals such as dogs do the same. Put a male puppy with a female puppy and he will learn to play at a far less aggressive level than he does when he plays with other male puppies.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (6 children)

It's not an erosion of standards. If she can't make the kicks she won't stick around, especially given nfl games are decided on average by 4 points or less. She would have to kick as good or better than her male counterparts because if people don't win they don't keep their jobs. People that reach that level of competition are for the most part fierce competitors. Most I've met don't give a shit about who is watching, they're concerned with being the best. The money and audience is a natural result of that.

[–]redfallhammer 12 points13 points  (3 children)

She would have to kick as good or better than her male counterparts because if people don't win they don't keep their jobs.

That's true, if the NFL can remain a meritocracy. When has ANYTHING remained a meritocracy once women get involved? Erosion...

But.. but.. the NFL is a juggernaut. Yep, one that follows money, and which sex spends more money? Do you think the ear of the NFL can't be bent once they start sucking from the sweet sugary tits that is the female american consumer? Teams will be falling over themselves trying to hire female players so that they can get their turn at the nipple regardless of the females performance. Go check out Danica Patrick in NASCAR. She's not a great driver but she brings in tons of money from the ladies.

edit: added words and shit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Right, to maintain parity each team needs to have 1 woman on the 53 and 2 on the PS. Woman player must be active on gameday.

[–]RedoranBoneMould 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Female presence changes male interaction. Competitive male-only spaces are where men can bond shoulder-to-shoulder, and introducing a woman into that environment changes all the social rules involved. And with the rate that male-only spaces have diminished, I'm okay with discrimination to keep them that way.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This isn't intramural flag football or a family turkey bowl, this is the nfl. No one is going to reduce their effort because a woman is on the field. The goal is to make the play to win and get paid. Hypothetically if a blocked fg return is ongoing and she tries to make the tackle that chick is getting the truck stick. The returner wont give a shit if it's a chick. Again the goal is winning, I'll take a female kicker making 90% of her kicks over a male making less.

[–][deleted] 71 points72 points  (17 children)

I hate female sports reporters and why would any man allow himself to be coached by a woman?

[–]thenemaxofredpill 94 points95 points  (2 children)

Female sports reporters only want the job so they can have the chance to meet rich, buff sports athletes. Essentially, upping their chance of getting a extremely high smv alpha. You can see this every time they see the star walking close, they fix their hair and puff up their tits and run over like a little girl.

[–]traversecity 3 points4 points  (0 children)

... and that is why i like watching a fem sports reporter! Hot for the alphas, guessing that makes the feminists seeth with jealousy.

[–]jmottram08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meh, I am sure some are in it for the money / career. And it's easier to get hired when you look good, and it's easier to get higher ratings when you look good, and it's easier to grab the attention of the players to get an interview when you look good.

If almost every aspect of a job is easier if you look a certain way, you will find women flocking to it, because it is easy money / career advancement.

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (8 children)

Female football coaches are a societal shit test, the ultimate takeover of a sacred male space, the locker room.

[–]hva_vet 13 points14 points  (1 child)

societal shit test....now that's a keeper.

[–]Venomroach 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Calgary flames (hockey) were reportedly looking at adding a female coach to the bench. What a time we live in.

[–]gabrielshekelstein 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I hope it never happens. No fucking way guys like Ovechkin would take a woman coach seriously though. He'd opt for the KHL.

Hopefully this is a fad that comes and goes.

[–]HeatseekingLogicBomb 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There's way too much money and ego staked in the NFL for female coaches to get much respect or become very widespread and longlasting.

"Not For Long" is true for a reason.

[–]AlphaMeal 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I say let them try.
Girls think they can tackle men?
Lol, good luck ladies.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Sounds like fun!

...cue the rape accusations after failing a 4th down conversion.

[–]malignantbacon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Football is about to become the gayest shit ever... men and women both on the field and the men checking to make sure it's another man before they do the "good job" ass smack

[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 27 points28 points  (12 children)

Burr has always been on the edge of Red. He tells it like it is, but never seems to really commit to the ideology. I remember during one of his routines he talked about how his then-fiancee at the time hit him and nearly caused him to fall and crack his skull open.

He gave her a time out; had he been truly enlightened he would have recognised that as the red flag it is. Unfortunately, he wound up marrying her...oh well, 'nother one bites the dust.

[–]chaosmech 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Given that his job hinges on popularity (unpopular comedians who aren't enormous names don't get gigs, don't get paid), it's not surprising. It seems like he hovers on the edge because that's what he can get away with.

But yeah marrying Nia was weird, I'd never have expected that from him.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 16 points17 points  (2 children)

To each his own, and if she makes him happy, good for him. But I can't fucking stand Nia. Even when she's not talking feminist shit, she's just so obnoxious.

Every time she comes on the podcast, all I can think is will you shut up and let the man ramble about sports and conspiracy theories? Jesus.

[–]coffee_and_lumber 14 points14 points [recovered]

Women wandering into male spaces...

[–]systemshock869 15 points15 points [recovered]

I heard she was a feminist, too. Of all ironic marriages..

God damn I sound like a squawking hen at the gossip fence.

[–]coffee_and_lumber 17 points17 points [recovered]

Most women seem to think they're feminists if you ask them, but don't actually do anything to support the movement in practice. It's just some feel-good thing to passively get behind.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then they talk about how badly they want to visit the middle east too!

That's the irony that makes me spit up my drink when I hear it.

[–]dabrah1 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I think its kind of genius actually - hes red enough to appeal to the ultra masculine crowd, and blue enough to appeal to the rest of society. He gets the best of both worlds.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its not because he is blue or red, it's because he is a comedian.

You can get away with saying a lot of shit that is lost in the fog of comedy. People will laugh at the absurdity of your humor, but will remain uncertain as to whether you are saying these things because you believe them to a large extent, or whether you just entertain the idea.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At one point in his podcast he straight up told her, after asking her a serious question, "if you answer X I swear to fucking God I'll throw you out the window".

Do NOT quote me on that, but it was something to that degree where she knew he wasn't mad, but he wasn't having anymore of her weaseling out either, and even though he wasn't going to do anything like that, she had to watch her words afterwards. It was a gender/relationship related discussion. He's much more alpha than people think, the only thing that keeps him away from being full on Red is that he maintains hope in LTR's.

It's also important to keep in mind Mia is black. Despite saying she is a feminist she is far from the stereotype of a Disney princess.

[–]jfastman 13 points14 points  (2 children)

One thing I've been thinking about the NFL is why don't they promote men's health awareness like they do women? It's a perfect venue to encourage men to get a check up. I joined the Movember movement a couple of years ago and it's been a huge let down. Men's health issues just don't seem to make to the mainstream like the pink ribbon has.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

haha nope just breast cancer and women's domestic violence, gotta make it about women!

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Good riddance to the welfare whore NFL.

[–]kanjou1234 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Really guys? It's not that women are interested. It's that the nfl wants to tap into the largely untapped women's market by being more female friendly. 50% of the population is not interested means that they lose a lot of potential revenue.

[–]walterwhiteknight 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Since the day I met my wife, she's been an avid fan of football. None of her family is, and I'm only a fan if my team's in the playoffs. Otherwise I find it a bit boring. I prefer to play it instead of watching other people play it. Anyways, wife's a huge football fan, knows what every team is up to, and often predicts where plays will end up, saying things like, you see where that guy is? He knows this set up, he's gonna be ready to intercept before the receiver even gets there.

Also believes a woman's role is to be in support of her husband, not leading him. Believes male and female roles were created by nature.

I think she'd be a badass coach.

[–]1aguy01 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think she'd be a badass coach.

Seriously? A woman who's never played football would be a good coach of an all male team? You know your wife would just end up fucking them all, right?

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[–]johnchapel 1 point2 points  (4 children)

This whole sub is chock with young amateurs who are convinced the entirety of redpill is how stupid, evil, useless, boring, and cunty women are, and then OPs like this happen.

Bill Burrs a comedian, not a fucking redpill soothsayer.

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[–]johnchapel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

dead on. This thread is pure fucking garbage

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've been watching Bill Burr for years. He's TRP as fuck.

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 7 points8 points  (0 children)

because they are excluded.

I doubt they care they aren't apart of it. They just want the attention and status they don't currently have.

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"women hate to see men having fun and enjoying something without them."

Fucking right. I have had women try to weasel their way into Dungeons and Dragons games, even after they slagged the activity as totally lame. Same deal with shooting guns, or playing in a band. These broads just want in, in, in all the fucking time, and then they're not happy with what they find when they get let in.

It's pretty hard for me to not be a misogynist, honestly. But I try.

[–]remyseven 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can't wait for mixed sex Olympics.

[–]ChrisWright 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is the dumbest opinion in the world. It was THE NFL'S DECISION to put women in the NFL. I guarantee they realized women were untapped consumers in the market and they are trying to get more women interested to make more money!!!

tldr; NFL marketing strategy, not matriarchal conspiracy

[–]bradtwo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What commercial is he talking about? I cannot locate the "50's in Gold super bowl ad" that he is speaking of.

[–]surfjihad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First rule do not talk about fight club

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unrelated, but man to man you should cool the vocabulary jets. You're misusing some key words and it distracts from your analysis.

[–]Mouthpiece 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think Bill is right about football in particular, but here's an interesting viewpoint on some other male spaces that have been invaded by women:

don't want to be cynical, but boy oh boy is it hard not to observe that at the very moment in our history when we have the most women in the Senate, Congress is perceived to be pathetic, bickering, easily manipulated and powerless, and I'll risk the blowback and say that those are all stereotypes of women. Easy, HuffPo, I know it's not causal, I am saying the reverse: that if some field keeps the trappings of power but loses actual power, women enter it in droves and men abandon it like the Roanoke Colony. Again we must ask the question: if power seeking men aren't running for Senate, where did they go? Meanwhile all the lobbyists and Wall Street bankers are men, isn't that odd? "Women aren't as corrupt or money hungry." Yes, that's been my experience with women as well.

thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/01/no_self-respecting_woman_would.html

Women enter a field primarily when men have moved on to other things, leaving behind the illusion that the field is desirable. On the flipside, when men enter a field that has traditionally been reserved for women (the author use the example of nursing) suddenly that feel becomes more prestigious, desirable, and influential.

So I wonder: if men are allowing women to infiltrate football, with pink shoes in October and female referees and coaches, is that a signal that men are starting to give up on professional football and move on to other things, rather than a sign that women are successfully infiltrating something men still value?

This early in the morning, I'm having trouble deciding which I believe.

[–]MeltzerDriver 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just can't wait for what the next mass media brainwashing of young boys and men this year during the Super Bowl commercials is going to be.

[–]Sdom1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think he's actually way off the mark here, which is rare for Bill. It's about money and power. Those positions are cushy and pay extremely well, and allows the feminist lobby to exert control from the inside. Just remember, when any SJW advocates any sort of policy or remedy or whatever, just ask two questions:

  1. Does this policy result in them having more money?

  2. Does this policy result in them having more control?

The answer is always, always, ALWAYS yes. Look at the whole Mizzou situation. Their demands were for more black faculty and staff, for students to be forced to take courses they mandated (i.e. indoctrination), and for the President to step down. They then replaced that President with one of their own, who was one of the founding members of the student group that arranged all this and was involved in starting the protests in the first place.

It's all so very, very simple. Money, power. That's it. That's the only filter you need.

[–]Scizzler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're reaching big time with that logic. It's probably more about getting a slice of that nfl money.

[–]mygunuface 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"There is nothing that annoys a fucking woman like a bunch of guys going out and having fun without them."

Beautiful.

[–]Slammin_Muff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bill Burr was my pre-TRP outlet and is now my confirmation of everything I've assimilated. Fuck you old Billy red-face!

[–]Commanderghost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do agree with your thoughts. I've seen it happen in my own life too. Normally we have a guys night every so often and recently my friends that have a girlfriend have been bringing them to the guys night because they felt left out. I really do miss the days when it would just be the four of us shooting the shit for hours on end without any fear of offending women or being politically correct. Great article and you've gained an upvote!

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