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Field ReportFR - "I accidentally slept with a guy" (self.TheRedPill)

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Summary : This was a brief back and forth I had with a friend with benefits this morning over text.

Body : Her : I miss you...

Me : Hey, let's meet up Monday after work then.

Her : Honestly I need to stay home and clean... My apartment is a mess...and I don't know that you will like me as much after I tell you what just happened.

Me : What's that?

Her : I may have just accidentally slept with a guy I was hanging out with

An accident

Me : Haha nobody accidentally sleeps with anybody. Also, whatever. We aren't together, remember?

Her : I know...but I still feel guilty but that's also because it wasn't exactly planned and I would take it back in a heartbeat. And yes, I know we aren't together, but I said that if either of us sleeps with anyone, we tell the other person.

Wasn't exactly planned. I can assume she was drinking, as she likes to do that a lot, and they're alone at her place at 2-4 in the morning. All of the events leading up to this are not accidents.

Me : It happens, no worries

Her : Well I'm glad you're taking it much better than I am...

Am I supposed to be upset and / or sad?

Me : Well have I met him?

Her : The only person you've met is Lisa, and no it's not her. He came over just to hang out. Apparently just hanging out with a member of the opposite sex is impossible because somehow that turned into sex.

Me : Gotcha

Her : I hate guys, you all suck. I wish I could just turn lesbian. Few minutes later I'm sorry, I don't hate you. I just currently hate myself.

Me : Why?

Her : Because I didn't really want to sleep with him. But I did.

My ex-fiancé pulled this with me once, and I will never fall for it again. "I didn't really want to sleep with him" my ass.

Lessons learned

  • My lack of emotional investment kept me from getting hurt.
  • She definitely isn't LTR material.
  • This is more of a PSA. Nobody ever accidentally sleeps with anybody, especially in this situation.

Edit I thought I had put Friend with benefits in the Summary. Lesson learned : Proofread better.


[–]2renzy77 390 points391 points  (35 children)

I may have just accidentally slept with a guy I was hanging out with

May have

Like she's not sure if she fucked the guy or not...

accidentally

The floor was wet, she slipped, and fell right onto his dick. Darnit!

I hate guys, you all suck. I wish I could just turn lesbian.

It's men's fault for making her want to have sex with them.

Because I didn't really want to sleep with him. But I did.

Translation: I really wanted to sleep with him. But I don't want to own up to it.

If there's one trait I find the most aggravating with women, it's their complete and utter lack to take any sort of responsibility for the choices they make.

[–][deleted] 115 points116 points  (8 children)

complete and utter lack to take any sort of responsibility for the choices they make

True. In this case, as far as hamsterizations go, "accidentally having sex with a guy" is not far from "the guy forced me to have sex". OP needs to stay far away from this chick.

[–]soadaa 63 points64 points  (4 children)

My ex cheated on me with this dude and basically said he had a power over her and she was afraid to say no, ect ect, and then went back for a second time lol.

[–]BradPill 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Yeah.... she was a true Chad-magnet.

[–]UCISee 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Had a girl claim false sexual assault on her and she said the same thing. In her story I never touched her nor stood in front of her or actually made her do anything, but she "felt this power, I dont know what it was, I just could not leave."

What the fuck does that mean? The whole situation never even happened in the first place, but had it, LEAVE!

[–]soadaa 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah its something I'll never quite understand but would never want to be in that guys (or yours) shoes and deal with possible false rape claims.

Oddly, she never confided in me that it felt like rape or sexual assualt to her. Guess even for her that was too low or something? I honestly expected her to tell me at some point at a very minimum that it felt like assualt or something?

However, she's only ever kept it at didn't cheat, but was stupid but not rape. She hates the guy now and hasn't talk to him since.

[–]UCISee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Be careful with that. This girl with false allegations was trying to break up my GF and I because she felt we should be together. Then said if she couldn't be happy, I wouldn't be either. Claimed to have blocked my number and never wanted to talk to me again etc. then I received multiple 2am phone calls about how she loved me and wanted to be with me etc. Women (or at least the ones I attract) are batshit.

[–]1StoicCrane 29 points30 points  (0 children)

These types of chicks are dangerous. They can get flakey and change their opinion from accidental sex to forced sex with absolutely no warning. Could be because they're having a bad day, going through their cycle, whatever. Wish there were easier ways to spot them.

[–]HeatseekingLogicBomb 6 points7 points  (0 children)

renzy77 had it phrased correctly. Women. AWALT.

OP needs to stay far away from this chick.

I'd say: Everyone needs to remember AWALT and protect themselves accordingly at all times.

[–]HRpuffystuff 34 points35 points  (1 child)

"How do you write women so well?"

"I think of a man, then i take away the reason and accountability."

-As Good As It Gets

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of my favorite quotes. So spot on!

[–]SeekingTheWay 32 points33 points  (9 children)

It's men's fault for making her want to have sex with them.

But it really is. And that's a good thing.

[–]scholarly_pimp 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Yes and no. She's capable of wanting, without him making her, to have sex. It's more along the lines of she probably doesn't want to fuck things up with OP and is shirking responsibility.

[–]LazyMagus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

At the same time, she doesn't want to handle the the guilt of being dishonest with him. I don't know if it is good or bad.

[–]2renzy77 23 points24 points  (6 children)

You're right, that part of my comment was poorly articulated: being able to attract women is a good thing.

The problem here is that this woman is angry at herself, but rather than deal with those feelings of regret in a healthy manner like an adult, she chooses to project the blame onto men:

I hate guys, you all suck.

It's not surprising. Having grown up in a culture that teaches women they can do no wrong, she probably doesn't possess the psychological tools to deal with the guilt you feel when you know you've done something wrong.

Unfortunately, now that she's placed the blame onto men, she also feels angry and resentful towards men (you guys suck). Most people, when they feel that way, have a tendency to lash out at the people who made them angry and resentful.

With that in mind, look back at the original comment made by the OP:

I can assume she was drinking, as she likes to do that a lot, and they're alone at her place at 2-4 in the morning.

Aren't feminists the ones always saying if she's drunk she can't consent?

You see where I'm going with this?

You've got a woman who was likely under the influence of alcohol, who clearly regrets her decision and who's now placed the blame for this sexual encounter onto the man.

I'm willing to bet this is the exact thought process that goes on in the minds of women who make false claims that are nothing but regret over a drunken hookup.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I once borrowed Deti's Hamsturlator and was able to see this in every single case.

A woman's hamster can be guided into many different directions. The key appears to be this incipient female need to avoid accountability and blame men for anything that happens.

They do the same thing with the Genesis creation story. She at the apple first and she gave it to her husband to eat BUT HE was given dominion over the garden and he didn't do his job- so Eve eating the apple was really the man's fault. See how that works?

Of course this begs the question: If a tree falls in the woods and there is no woman around to complain about it, is it STILL the man's fault?

[–]questionthis 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I love everything you've said. Especially when you said she "doesn't possess the psychological tools to deal deal with the guilt you feel when you know you've done something wrong." This is a very true societal trait that women have adopted because of our modern culture. They feel they can literally do no wrong. They attack things like "slut shaming" to justify their lack of self respect. They post random selfies on social media that don't have any business existing other than to garner likes and compliments, but then proceed to call men creepy for liking the post (unless they have a crush on you which makes it okay). But my favorite example is the "all my exes are assholes" claim. That's a classic. The second I hear that one I walk away.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But my favorite example is the "all my exes are assholes" claim. That's a classic.

She doesn't even stop to realize she is the common denominator. Absolutely zero self reflection.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you can get behind the wheel of a car and still hold personal responsibility for your decisions, I don't see why this cannot stand when you willfully have sex with someone, if you were conscious when partaking in the act.

[–]Kathulos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Little late on the reply. Check out these studies (linked in this blog post) about the regret asymmetry between men and women regarding casual sex. If you want to get really mad spend some time reading the blog itself. http://www.cotwa.info/2013/12/root-cause-of-rape-and-false-rape.html

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Listen, it's aggravating only if yiu have expectations for them the way you have for men. Things like honor come from knowing yiu have power and control over your actions and the world around you.

The world HAPPENS to women. They GET fucked they don't do the fucking. Their happiness comes from external things and objects.

She may have not planned on fucking him. This is what men need to understand. This entire reddit is about being a man and learning frame and game so you can talk women out of their own way.

All some man did was convince this woman she wanted to have sex with him. His frame was stronger and she acquiesced.

Simple and plain. Look for women who make better decisions and have stronger frames that it takes a stronger man to break.

[–]Get2thechoppah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck man. This hits too close to home. I've been on the receiving end of this this rationale someone I was seeing. Still gets me worked up just thinking about it.

[–]RealRational 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sucks, cause that's their defining trait. Awalt

[–]B_Campbell 1 point2 points  (1 child)

As good as it gets, Jack Nicholson, How do you write women so well?, Nicholson responds, I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.

[–]LavenderBuds 151 points151 points [recovered]

Now imagine if you have oneitis for this girl, or had the slightest thought of LTR'ing her.

[–][deleted] 108 points109 points  (8 children)

Yeah this could destroy a career Beta

[–]Endorsed Contributoralways-be-closing 71 points72 points  (4 children)

That's why it's better for them to have those illusions killed earlier rather than later. Like jumping into a pool instead of tortuously dipping into cold water slowly.

I'm convinced most "beta"-ness is simply just a lack of respect for themselves and over respect for women.

I believe most betas should simply fuck prostitutes and go to strip clubs if they can't find good clean escorts - anything to understand that women, even good looking, nice seeming women, put a price on their pussy and most guys pay new and luxury levels for what is actually used and really quite commonplace.

Perhaps it's artificial abundance, but I'm not sure that outside of young love there's any guy who's not paying for it in one way or another.

[–]VIICHYVALOIS 11 points12 points  (1 child)

That's why it's better for them to have those illusions killed earlier rather than later. Like jumping into a pool instead of tortuously dipping into cold water slowly.

Very few people learn this lesson before they find themselves in this situation. Christ, if more men could just realize the nature of AWALT, so many men would be better off

[–]Kingoffistycuffs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not even just men, people would be better off in general. More freedoms can be had with proper borders then if everything is fluid and always in flux.

[–]KorianHUN 11 points12 points  (1 child)

As someone who found TRP not long ago and is an 18 year old who was raised being told to [insert any beta behavior shit here], i'm sure now this sub probably saved me from a lot of shit later in my life.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Warning ahead, never fool yourself with girls that claim to be "anti-feminists".

[–]QuantumDeath666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Worse it would turn the Beta into a Cuck. Him cleaning her up after a fuck session with her alpha.

[–]Chrience 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, its almost certain some poor beta will even marry her, gambling half his earnings and his freedom on this used up slut staying loyal. And she certainly won't be caring and submissive to the future husband either, she experienced too much cock and partying for such a dull lifestyle.

You'll be lucky to have her ..... if you like being driven to suicide!

[–]fuckmylife1616 0 points1 point  (0 children)

true, it could/would have destroyed me. thankfully im on the way to conversion...no more thoughts of LTR or anything...i'm done.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 247 points248 points  (20 children)

Those darn penises...always covertly making vaginas moist, taking off pants and panties, making women suck them, and then inserting themselves into wet holes.

[–]Friggs1023 125 points125 points [recovered]

Just one accident after another haha

[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (16 children)

"Oh, he tripped and you fell?"

[–]KimJongTrilllllllll 38 points39 points  (8 children)

Wait, what if there's an explanation for this shit? (What, she tripped, fell, landed on his dick?)

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They both just happened to be meeting up for kisses as well, huh?

[–]B4ckSt4bber 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Alright Shady, maybe hes right Grady

[–]sourdieselfuel 7 points8 points  (4 children)

But think about the baby before you get all crazy

[–]killer3james 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Okay, thought about it? Still wanna stab her?

[–]Extract 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Grab her by the throat, get your daughter and kidnap her?

Also, since fucking when is "her" used as a rhyme with "her"??!!

[–]Auphor_Phaksache 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The rhyme is scheme is in the order of stAb her grAb her and kidnAp her

[–]KartagoPill 38 points39 points  (4 children)

"He accidentally fell on all my three holes."

[–]Chrience 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"...and got up, and tripped again, and got up,and tripped again,in a thrusting motion, until he accidentally came into me, after I accidentally poked holes in the condom he accidentally put on his accidentally erect penis!"

[–]Tyranith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not a mistake, just a happy accident

[–]Specter242 40 points41 points  (4 children)

"I know...but I still feel guilty but that's also because it wasn't exactly planned and I would take it back in a heartbeat."

Why does this sound like how false rape accusations start?

Also, "accidentally" I do not compute

[–]NazoXIII 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Because it is. She's using all the buzz words and showing signs of retroactively removing consent.

If I were OP I'd proceed with caution.

[–]Specter242 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"If I were OP I'd proceed with caution." Yeah me too. If that isn't a red flag then I don't what is

[–]cosine88 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would take it back in a heartbeat

Translation: New guy didn't fuck me very well, then he got needy...etc.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know, for a society that encourages "rape culture", there are surely a lot of psychopath women out there casually dropping lines like these.

[–]10xdada 120 points121 points  (2 children)

For most women I've met, "feel bad" just means "afraid of consequences." They are like kids, you can't take it personally.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

They are like kids, you can't take it personally.

QFT. Remember this, gentlemen. But depending on how much she plays a role in your life, you do have the option to lay down hard boundaries. Or eject her from your life altogether. Understand why women do things, but on the flip side, don't you yourself become her victim by excusing her actions.

[–][deleted] 105 points105 points

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[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (10 children)

If op was beta and had a hamster of his own she could have easily been talked into a rape accusation.

[–]Neuermann 30 points31 points  (9 children)

This comment bothers me. I have always considered "rape" to be the product of slut shaming or trying to save face for whatever reason. I have never thought about all the envious betas that try to create a damsel in distress by whispering things in her ear.

"If she was 'raped', then I can't be mad at her. Instead I should be mad at him. And after she sees how much I will protect her, she will finally fall in love with me. "

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (5 children)

What's crazy is that he would believe himself too. He hasn't learned like us that women never take responsibility for their own actions, and that it's not wrong or sexist to realize this.

He still sees women through a lense of male accountability, so the alpha guy 'taking advantage' of her is the only thing that makes sense.

Imagine that a straight male friend of yours confessed to you, "Dude I don't know what happened last night. I feel guilty and gross. I invited my buddy Steve over to play some xbox, that's it... but the next thing you know I'm on the floor and he's ramming his dick in my asshole. I didn't want that to happen. I don't trust anyone anymore. I hate you and other men and I even hate myself."

You'd be furious. You could only think that your buddy was drugged and raped, because men have accountability and are responsible for their actions unless something is done to them like they're physically overpowered, drugged or beaten. This is not the case with women so you have to be careful and know the difference.

I believe that most rape accusations come from a woman speaking in this tone and being accepted at face value and going along with the beta or other girl's suggestion that she was raped. She's already weak minded enough to not take responsibly, so it isn't much of a stretch for her to absolve guilt completely by claiming rape, but it's the groupthink and suggestions of a 'friend' or beta male that pushes her over the edge.

[–]BradPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like you read this post: https://archive.is/U3p7B

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Saw that ugly and up close in the Army. Two of my subordinates in my company basically can't be in the same room together now (and companies aren't that big).

Girl messes around with one guy on course - small scale shit, groping and mutual masturbation, that sort of thing. I don't know whether he ended it or she did, but she left bitter. But it was the next guy who convinced her to go to the MPs and complain that she was sexually assaulted.

In buddy's court martial, it all came out that the second guy was the whispering little Wyrmtongue. At one point in the testimony, he actually told her if she didn't report it to the MPs, he would.

Anyways...

Buddy was found not guilty. But the damage to his rep and mental health are permanent most likely, he spent 18 months expecting to go to jail for the next decade.

All because some fucking white knight beta couldn't bear to imagine his princess milking another man's dick.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Do you think she said this in hopes that he would commit to her so she doesn't go around fucking other dudes?

One of my old hometown friends fell into that situation and actually bought into it. She has since cheated on him twice after that. The dude doesn't actually give a fuck and writes it off with "Oh we were in a fight so it's not really a big deal" and other excuses.

He has a bright future of eventually becoming the cuckdaddy for chad's offspring.

[–]199639 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you think she said this in hopes that he would commit to her so she doesn't go around fucking other dudes?

Who knows but I have had women say this to me before. Two FWB's have 'confessed' to me and then gotten mad when I didn't yell at them. They said that they wanted to make me jealous so I'd realize how much they meant to me (their words) and ask them out.

[–]TRPMaidenSlayer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She likes you and it's a classic shit test...

When I was reading through this text stream, the only answer that came to mind for me was "ok". OP probably did 'better' than I would have, but jesus who cares, that shit wouldn't even justify the time it spent to type more than two letters.

[–]kelticslob 29 points30 points  (4 children)

"Shady, wait a minute, maybe there's an explanation for this shit"

"What, she tripped, fell, landed on his dick?"

[–]drdavethedavedoctor 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Marshall Mathers LP! Love that line. Fuck, that album is 17 years old!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Actually, it comes from Guilty Conscience, SSLP

[–]drdavethedavedoctor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ahhh...fucked up the the album name. Thanks! Still...that Record is fire.

[–]JustTruthful 25 points26 points  (3 children)

At least she didn't go as far as claiming he raped her. But the logic is there. How the fuck are these people considered adults.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Nobody on TRP considers women to be adults :)

[–]1Sir_Distic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly. There's posts and even on the sidebar about them being teenagers. For a very good reason.

[–]MyLittleAtomBomb 23 points24 points  (3 children)

I truly envy the magical world women live in where sexual encounters are accidents.

[–]wiseprogressivethink 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I wish I could just accidentally fuck my female friends.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think we should create a sister sub to encourage some male hamstering. Being aware of how far that shit can go, oh man.

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's easy to envy that they get what we have to work hard for almost "accidentally", but remember, if you were a woman the easy sex wouldn't matter because you'd want everything you can't have and never be satisfied with what you do.

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[–]OilyB 62 points63 points  (2 children)

This is why when women advise guys about women they go "if it's supposed to happen, it will."

Things happen all by themselves. Lol

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

They're not wrong. But this is a classic case of hidden perspective. From their angle, they are the pawn being acted upon. The male is the actor who makes it or breaks it.

Therefore,

if it's supposed to happen, it will

means,

if he makes it happen, it will

because she won't be the one to.

And since she isn't the driver of the interaction, society takes it as meaning she has no responsibility for getting out of the car.

[–]xfLyFPS 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Explains their love for horoscopes and chakras and other new age shit.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (3 children)

Exactly. To make a general point here for everyone: you need to be the guy who makes it "just happen." You need to be the guy to give her that story for herself.

No girl will tell her friends, "yeah I just went over to his place so we could fuck for hours, the usual, how was your night?" It's always more subtle than that, and there's always less responsibility. "He's just irresistible, I don't know how he does it," etc. Minimal responsibility, even for the booty call. That's how women are. She needs to be swept away, not to weigh the pros and cons logically, even if it's already obvious what's going down. She'll even try to sabotage it to see if you're as strong as she thinks, I mean, hopes.

Hence, LMR, even with a girl you've slept with before. She's showing you exactly what she needs to feel okay about her actions and that you're still the strong man she thinks you are. Just pass the little shit-test, whatever it is, and you're in, and she will be relieved that you passed and she will feel relaxed and ready.

[–]antariusz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the expression "just get it" as in, "Why can't more guys just get it?"

"It" refers to this knowledge.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beautifully written. This is Female Psych 101, gents.

[–]1grubek 34 points35 points  (5 children)

What I don't get is why she told you. It sounds like amateur hour. This girl sounds bad at manipulation.

[–]itsawomensworld 37 points37 points [recovered]

To me her mentioning this is to make him jealous. She also won't let it go.

In text op did well. If it was in person im sure he'd call her out. Like oh yeah men suck? Well what about women who have sex with someone and then pretend it was an accident. All women are giant liars if they believe sex is ever an accident. And little is worse than a liar therefore women suck more

[–]1grubek 26 points27 points  (1 child)

She is obviously trying to get and gauge his attention by getting him jealous. But it is a really amateurish move.

[–]princepeanutbutter 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Might not be to gauge, but a power play. I've had girls try to reverse do whatever I did, so if OP is portraying abundance she might be saying 'me too!' It's also really amateurish though

[–]kazaul 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Okay, let's give this a shot. I don't believe it's amateurish or bad manipulation. I think it's a poorly hidden emotional crutch to help her process events. Basically, there are two outcomes, and both are beneficial to her emotional state:

  • if you say it's okay she fucked someone else or respond with indifference, she feels that you've forgiven her enough that she still has a shot at what she considers a potential option ("I miss you; I hate men, but not you").
  • if you tell her she's a slut or loose it or don't respond, she's found an excuse to (eventually) convince herself that you really were a dick and that she's now better off without you.

In other words, it's an attempt determine how to handle her guilt and emotions, which she can't do without input as her value (and thus emotional life) is defined externally - in particular by her sexual partners, as is blatantly obvious and she even says herself outright (lesbian comment).

Since OP represents a potential option (presumably higher SMV than others, in particular the accident), she has to get his input to determine how to value herself. She will not trust any other's opinion on an emotional level, even if she rationally knows what the deal is, unless she's 100% certain they are higher SMV than her previous best contender – and therefore more 'right' according to her feels.

Everything about trying to make jealous etc may be true too. But none of that actually explains her motivation, which is entirely her confusion over what she wants and the insecurity of not knowing where a high SMV option stands in regards to her. If she didn't care – or the accident was actually worthy of her attention – the messages would read very differently. Or not have been sent at all, more likely, since there'd be no need to re-evaluate herself or handle her bad feels (which are a direct result of her feeling she was cheated into sex by a lower SMV option as far as I can tell).

Does this make any sense? I don't think I'm communicating my analysis as clearly as I want.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah its hard to gauge the relationship between those two from just the text, like I have trouble comprehending the casualness of it... maybe im missing somthing...

Like if plate says "I slept with someone <hamster, hamster, hamster>... I'd be like "Ok, why are you telling me this??" and I would also seriously downgrade any attention i give her from then on.

Like seriously, if she respects op like hes the MAN, WTF would she even open up to him about this shit? If she wants to fuck other people thats cool, but you dont throw that shit in your alpha's face and essentially ask for emotional support... thats just fucking disrespectful.

If hes alpha, its seems like a major fucking shit test... but like insanity wolf level... To me this seems more like a chick to orbiter convo, especially with him being supportive and asking for additiona info... but like i said i dont know the dynamic of their relationship.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (3 children)

And this is why when screening for an LTR you should red flag a woman with a lot of guy friends. She'll have a lot of opportunities for "accidents".

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 9 points10 points  (0 children)

accidental = I will not be held responsible for my own actions!

[–]wtfwft10FT 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Very likely that he has not spoken to her since and she tried using you as an emotional foundation and a way to feel as if she is still in control.

Two more highly probable reasons:

-She is trying to make you jealous

-She is trying to get you to 'incriminate' yourself

[–]Neuermann 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That's what I though too. Pumped and dumped, now she needs an emotional tampon.

[–]2niczar 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Accidentally? How does that work? Were you just performing routine maintenance on the penis and forgot to check if it was loaded beforehand?

[–]Leviticus59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It went off in her hand....or pussy, or both.

[–]submitted_5_days_ago 8 points9 points  (3 children)

You can use that to your advantage.

You can actually use everything to your advantage.

When you see the world as a place full of opportunities to grow you will perceive every attack as a favorable occasion to gain advantage.

One must learn how to attack and how to turn attacks to their own advantages.

People should train their mind with the Adaptive Attacking Mindset.


The moment a discussion is taken place is the moment one cares to spend time on such discussion (time and thought of course one cannot discuss without thinking). Hence you think it's worth to spend time talking about this 'accident'.

This all post comes from the inner framework of "these women are such liars, I cant' stand them, bros here my fr be careful with these snakes bla bla bla"

Your actions are relative to your goals. I assume since you're here your goal is to have sex.

You also state the following:

Also, whatever. We aren't together, remember?

Hence, I can rightly assume you are using her for sex.

Giving that, you could have used this all 'accident' to gain an advantage in the game, thus furthering your own agenda.

Instead of just asking "Well have I met him?" (really? who the fuck cares of another stupid guy), or "Gotcha" or "Why?" (never ask why, you give field by asking why, why is a too open question, when you ask why you give them the opportunity to run the discussion with their terms, they can answer as they want with that too open question. I mean, you can ask why, but by asking why you lose the opportunity to run the discussion at your own terms.)

You were defensive throughout the whole discussion, you could have used an Attacking Power Talk making her feel way more sorry than that.

As soon as she said "I may have just accidentally slept with a guy I was hanging out with" you instantly mentioned your state as a couple saying "Also, whatever. We aren't together, remember?".

This is an error (error seen as you could have done something different and gained more advantage) because you should have assumed that in the conversation, never mentioning it, but your actual words and actions would assumed it. You should have let her talk about your state as a couple, only then you could have use her mentioning of the state at your own advantage always of course for the purpose to further your own agenda.

Here, when she says this "And yes, I know we aren't together, but I said that if either of us sleeps with anyone, we tell the other person." she is gaining real power in the overall interaction. Here, your best move cannot be mere 'talkative' but it must be a real state of things (you gain and manage power through words, but also you gain real power through real actions). Your best move here would have been the action that you already fuck others girls. Never tell her overtly, overt means to care. She will fell it through your 'posture' and your Subtextual Communication. And actually, if you had already that covered, the girl would have not tell that. You either didn't make it clear to her through your Subtextual Communication, or you either truly were not fucking other girls when you were fucking her.


What I'm trying to say is that you surely made some error if she felt the need to fuck another man, or you just did not invested enough time and energies into making her your personal slut.

But that is prior the accident, you could have played way more better. Giving the error or the insufficient investment, when this all 'accident' happened you cloud have use it to make her closer to be your personal sex slave for a prolonged period of time.


At the end you will defend yourself saying this girl were just a plate nothing important (but still you invested time into thinking and writing the post). But there's people who can smell when other people are afraid of 'getting hurt'. It just can't be hided.

[–]OfficialMotherfucker 22 points23 points  (0 children)

For all you know, she might have slipped while they were coincidentally naked, he was lying down on the floor and she just fell on top of his dick. Accidents happen bro, don't let it get to you.

Don't take her 'I'm just being honest' bs. She was just testing the waters to see whether it's okay to cuck you (aka you're okay with it). Drop her or keep emotionally distant and fuck other chicks until she runs back and begs for it.

[–]dat_honkey 20 points21 points  (0 children)

In my teenage years hearing stuff like this would cause me to go "super saiyan". But after learning AWALT i simply make adjustments to how i deal with these dumb cunts. Pump and dump and move on with my life. And female friends: WHY?? You need a wingman THAT bad??

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I used to get shit like this from my female friends back when I had some (my wife has all the female friends now, even the ones that used to be mine).

My typical come back used to be "well that sucks for you." Or some such or "good thing you didn't sleep with me, I would have ruined you for all men."

It's really some kind of shit test. Some way of insulting you so they can smile about it or seeing if you have any interest in them so they can keep you as a backup plan.

I lost one "friend" when I replied back "you and I were never going to sleep together, so I really don't care, I just want you to be happy, enjoy being a slut from time to time." And she got all pissed off and spent weeks being passive aggressive around our mutual friends.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I hate to sound like I'm the narrator in a hypergamy public safety ad, but you need to seek alternate plates soon.

By the sound to things your sexual trial period is about to time out with this one.

Like a military promotion board, she's racking and stacking her roster of orbiters and Chads to see who's ready for the job.The Other Guy probably got the same message when you fucked her last . Depending on how beta he is and his resultant response , she might be down for more months of boning if he surrendered , or you'll be the one she'll lean on if he said no.

You did good here showing no emotion. Best course of action now is to lay pipe like a Jersey union and start leveraging her friends for future plates before she hits Ultimatum Point.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This seems true. I don't know necessarily about her saying the same thing to the other guy, but the rest of it bears out. She's definitely poking at OP to see if he'll stick around despite her infidelity. Unfortunately I think she got the wrong message, that he will in fact stick around. I also get the impression he's a little bit attached to her despite him claiming or trying to act otherwise.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Am I supposed to be upset and / or sad?

Me : Well have I met him?

should've just ended it there, and not asked who it was. she wanted to talk about it more, and make you care about it, you were going fine up to this point

[–]Friggs1023 6 points6 points [recovered]

Agreed. I felt ridiculous asking her after I sent it, but I wasn't going to leave it out of this post.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah no worries, just always gotta be improving

at least you realized it and probably won't make the mistake again. then she'll really try to "get" you to care and throw herself at you twice as hard

[–]projectself 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I like to project as much of a "no judgement zone" as possible with girls. Girls I am gaming, girls I am dating, girls I have fucked, girls I am not even fucking anymore who just keep showing back up into my life over and over.. It doesn't matter. I take a slow, silly smile half laugh at the shit they say. Let them blab on.. and I have heard the above, and more. Lot's more.

Judgement is simply not the helpful in the situation. You hear what you need to make good decisions, so don't ..you know... proclaim your undying love her or anything stupid.. but other than that, who cares, what does it matter?

Lot's of women have accidental sex.. never heard "we are not having sex", only to have them groping you after you have them to their panties in your bed. It's an accident, earlier in the night they told themselves they were not going to do it. So doing it means they didn't follow their plan. It wasn't intentional.

Stop listening to them, enjoy them.

Consider listening to a woman like listening to the weather. It's about the same. The weather changes at the drop of a hat. Sunny day goes to cloudy day, to rainy day just as a womans thoughts go from sane to crazy to silly. You don't listen to the weather, that's crazy.

However, you can enjoy hearing the weather. Sometimes it is very nice to sit on your porch and listen to the wind blow through the treetops. I love the sound of a good rainstorm on my roof.

I would never "listen" to the weather, but I can enjoy hearing it. That's about how I approach the idea of listening to a woman.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Textbook hamster logic.

  • To be rational is to be objective and know and embrace the truth.

  • To rationalize is to make the subjective adapt to the objective.

...for a woman her "rationality" is designed so that her subjective reality is given priority over the objective "real world".

It's just funny for men to observe this behavior because it's almost like women are immune to the objective truth.

For a woman to be truthful would screw up her hamstering rationalization process... which is why they never are truthful at the core of their being.

This is a core trait of the feminine mind and not an error at all.

A Unicorn would be a woman that embraced truth... which is impossible.

The closest a woman can get to truth is by unifying with a masculine man who acts as her "rock" to ground her to objective reality. The Feminist woman is clueless of this reality and spends her life in subjectivity and in the false mythology of the Blue Pill, so the fact women are being "deprived" of their "rock" is also sad.

The Blue Pill is consciousness suppression so both men and women are harmed by it.

 

[–]Cant_Tell_Me_Nothin 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Aside from the monster hamster this girl apparently has, whats up with this girl? Is she just your friend? Have you fucked her? Are you her emotional tampon? She obviously rejected your invitation. Don't mean to sound too anal but the immediate "Hey, blah blah blah" sounded too eager from you. "Well have I met him?" makes you sound like her gay friend who is eager to learn about her gossip. It seems like you are investing too much attention in her stories, unless you were doing it out of curiosity of her hamster. You also sound too buddy buddy with her.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There is a word for accidentally sleeping with someone. It's called "forcible rape".

Did he pin you down with his body, pry your legs apart as you screamed for help, and then force his penis into you?

No?

Then you didn't "accidentally have sex with him".

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

he must not have been that good.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Man, back in my bluepill days my oneitis pulled something like this on me. It ultimately lead to me discovering TRP and shitcanning that bitch. She's tried to get back into my life a few times but that is never happening.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She gets tingles from making you burn with jealousy.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Totally believable. He must have slipped on a banana peel and stuck his dick in her. Bad luck that they were both naked at the time.

[–]LifeMedic 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Just save the text for when the "rape accusations" start flying around. You may be able to save a guy's life.

[–]1Sir_Distic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

accidently let him slam that dick into me over and over again.

I hate guys, you all suck. I wish I could just turn lesbian.

IT'S YOUR FAULT I FUCKED ANOTHER GUY!

Because I didn't really want to sleep with him. But I did.

Hamster mode activated. Initiate protocol No Responsibility.

I suggest a demotion for her. If she's already at the lowest I suggest pulling away and soft nexting her.

[–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Her : Because I didn't really want to sleep with him. But I did.

IMO, there's something to this.

Immediately prior to ovulation, women experience a surge of both testosterone and estrogen. They have low progesterone during this period, but the trend reverses itself after ovulation (low T and E, high P)

The testosterone greatly increases the sex drive, I'll assume everyone knows this.

Estrogen likely makes them more sexually receptive than usual.

Progesterone is very low immediately prior to ovulation, and high afterwards. I believe that progesterone is a critical requirement for pair bonding and monogamous behavior. Here's one study which found that progesterone makes female finches more likely to pair bond.

I think that women have a strong physiological desire for sex near ovulation, which plummets after the event. In addition, their physiological "love" drive increases many fold after ovulation. This combination probably produces a feeling of shame, separate from social shaming factors.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"aww I slept with him but I really wanted you!"

"If I'm who you really want, I'm who you sleep with. Bye, have a nice life."

[–]The-Ban-Hammer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I accidentally let his penis inside me and may have accidentally swallowed a bit of cum. Accidentally.

[–]BritishBoyRZ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She's a little slut seeking validation and attention from you.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 23 points24 points  (26 children)

  1. She was pulling your strings to see you do the jealous monkey dance
  2. You validated her by giving her that much attention over text.

Optimally, the exchange should have ended something like this:

Her : I may have just accidentally slept with a guy I was hanging out with

You: k.

Anything past that is just her drama benefit, and your loss of time.

EDIT: formatting

[–]Diablos_Advocate_ 50 points51 points  (6 children)

k

That just sounds passive aggressive and bitter.

He treated with just the right amount of flippancy as you would expect when your friend tells you about something you don't really care about

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, what would she think!

[–]slip-down 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Your missing the point here, its not how "he seems to her". The man (OP) clearly is not invested at all. With that being said it doesn't matter what he texts back, becuase OP is enjoying true abudence. There's no need to psycho analyze his texts, becuase he just doesn't give a shit.

It doesn't matter if she had a threesome, 4some or orgy. It doesn't matter if she " accidently" got engaged, because OP is better then all that. He can text what ever he wants becuase to qoute him "she's not ltr material" nore will she be for him at all least, he has no investment other then the 1 hr. of fun he has with her. Even if she pegs him as a beta based off what he texts her, who cares..OP certainly doesn't. And that's all that matters.

[–]mugatucrazypills 7 points8 points  (0 children)

ANY communication on the subject after "I may have slept with a guy" is just making the OP an emotional tampon and she's dumping more blood on you.

*she's a free agent anyways, hope OP don't get the itchy dick

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Thank you. Depending on personality, "k" can come off as passive aggressive. So beware. I really don't understand why he, or anyone, would put up with that drama. I would have had that shit cut out by now.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be honest I've started staying away from the 'k' unless that's really all I want to say. It's way too easy a tool to be taken out of context. I agree that OP validated her way too much though. He should have ended that conversation right after her "I miss you".

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[–]Paranoidexboyfriend 21 points22 points  (3 children)

because if he says nothing, that makes it seem like hes angry and giving her "the silent treatment" as some sort of tantrum. I think he handled it well

[–]n8dawwg 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Furthermore, he is clearly concerned with keeping up a regular plate. He made clear that they were not exclusive. Why should he care of she fucked around? He passed her shit test and will banging her later. Am I confused about the purpose here? Or is there some RP members here that believe in the notion of having a gaggle of women that only sleep with them and them only?

[–]Its_the_other_tj 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think more of the concern is that she's kinda throwing it in ops face. There's a few red flags. Not taking responsibility for her own actions which could lead to false rape allegations in the future, if that's the "one" she told him about how many more are there? STDs are a real threat here, and early indications she's hiding a big ole pile of crazy from a seemingly strait forward dude.

I keep a few plates at any given time, but I sure as shit don't go around telling them about each other unsolicited. That's a recipe for crazy. Just ask my stalker :/

[–]Screenp2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because you know it's a game so you give the kitty the end of the string just to watch the thing get all wound up. It becomes a kind of white noise while I'm reading some Robert Green.

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[–]CDBaller 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why are any of the commenters surprised to see her not taking responsibility? AWALT. It's pounded into your brains every time you read a post on here. Women are incapable of taking responsibility for anything. They barely have agency. Women are like children. Accept this as fact and use it as a guiding principal in your interactions with them.

[–]MeltzerDriver 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We've reached peak hamstering right here boys.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny to see that hampster spin isn't it? Good one op. Made me chuckle.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That hamster's running on crack cocaine.

Some chicks are scary, specially American chicks: "I know we've been sleeping together for months, and I let you fuck me in the ass but.... buttt today I felt like you RAPED me!!"

[–]TRPShill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is a translucent shit test

[–]WingedHussarx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She sounds like a fucking teenager

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ive heard the same thing from women.

I accidentally forgot to give a shit

[–]Bielzabutt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't want to sleep with him

So I guess it was rape..

Chad's lucky she didn't hamster into this mode.

[–]mksu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have some compassion, she probably just tripped and fell on her ass on some guy's dick, can happen to anybody.

[–]gschwind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Accidents like this happen all the time:

In his evidence, Mr Abdulaziz demonstrated how the complainant had put her hand behind his head to pull her towards him, causing him to fall down.

He said: 'I'm fragile, I fell down but nothing ever happened, between me and this girl nothing ever happened.' He said traces of his DNA could have been found in her vagina because of the fall.

He also said it was possible he had semen on his hands after the sexual encounter with her friend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3361640/Saudi-millionaire-cleared-raping-teenager-telling-court-accidentally-penetrated-18-year-old-tripped-fell-her.html

[–]uxl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm impressed that you resisted the urge to mock her or water the seeds of self-loathing. It's the audacity of telling you and trying to get a jealous reaction that's particularly annoying. You handled it perfectly. It would (or will) be great if she accidentally discovered a hotter chick fucking you at some point soon.

[–]notmyusualreddit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is an 'accident' just like in the US a car wreck is called an accident.

"I haven't changed my shocks in 187k miles. My tie rods have an inch of slop. I was going 85 miles an hour through the mountains. I tried to pass that car on the right side. I didn't think he was serious about that blinker to the right at the last second. And then I got into an accident!!"

[–]Veritas_potissimum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a conversation she should be having with her girlfriends. What value is she adding to your life that she's just your friend-- is she good with giving lifting tips or interesting philosophical advice? Otherwise, you're getting close to beta orbiter territory if she feels this comfortable vomiting her feelings all over your phone.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is great. It reminds me of my favorite scene from The Last Boy Scout: "You tripped, slipped on the floor and accidentally stuck your dick in my wife. Whoops!"

[–]PaulyShoresWeenus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IMO, I think the girl deserves some credit. Granted, theres obvious slut tendencies, but owning it is a big step for women who tend to just bury their shit. This guy could have been in the dark and possibly caught an std or something. The fact that he doesnt really care is probably why she told him, but still giving a guy a heads up on her agenda deserves the minimal amount of recognition. Now had OP been beta, he wouldnt have found out til his dick burned when he pissed. Kudos OP.

[–]Eugenics2015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

False rape machine. Women like that are cancer

[–]mojo_magnifico 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey man this girl likes you. She didn't have to tell you shit, and have just been one of those AWALT sluts. Unnecessary honesty? No hamstering? No cries of rape/manipulation? She seems kinda cool.

[–]WillyWonka321 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice title.Thought dude slept with dude.I was like wooow.What's this.How do you accidentally do that.Anyway nicely played.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They get the gina tingles and felt guilty afterward. It's like the guy closing 20 tabs of porn after a jerk fest. Neither party can fool itself because they'll be right back at it the next time.

[–]Stythe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This reminded me, I had a short term plate recently who, after we had sex told me she had to tell me something important. She said She was "technically" a milf. I thought that was an amusing way to phrase it. As if she had the qualifications but didn't quite make the cut or something.

[–]Leviticus59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of the term "fell pregnant." What...like a chick is walking down the street, minding her own business, humming Karen Carpenter tunes, and a pregnancy somehow smacks her on the head.

Even traditional expressions used in polite society attempt to remove all the responsibility from women.

[–]Kenny_Twenty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your feelings are hurt. You're lying.

[–]KartagoPill 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Ex-fiance? Bro u must be after a long way. Glad that didnt turn into marriage it would ruin life.

[–]Friggs1023 2 points2 points [recovered]

She cheated on me with one of her friends while I was away at Basic Training. He got her pregnant, and she tried to tell me it was mine. Months later she conveniently has a miscarriage. It turned out that she had an abortion because she knew I'd get a paternity test, and she didn't want to ruin her friend's life. I guess ruining mine was alright though haha.

I've been through worse; This is nothing.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

what...why are you still talking to her?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mad props for the ability to protect your emotions, bro.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Methinks her telling you was a calculated Shit Test and a weak attempt to subconsciously friendzone you.

[–]1Sir_Distic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Less of Friendzoning and more of "Now you'll commit to me because I did something to make you jealous."

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Problem 1: hamstering. Accidentally slept with a guy; I'm a slut -> men suck.

Problem 2: looking for validation. She completely volunteered the information, meaning she was hoping for a jealous reaction that would reaffirm her as the valuable one She didn't get it.

Problem 3: trying to insert obligations that don't exist onto the guy: "if either of us sleeps with someone else we'll tell thebother" even though, as the guy says, they're not together. Again, trying to lock the guy down while she's just a slut.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah she was definitely trying to lock him down while at the same time telling him she fucked someone else. It's like "if he'll put up with this, he'll put up with anything!", and that's the message she received. She won't think twice about doing it a second time ++

[–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think her pussy accidentally fell on his erect penis.

Knowing is half the battle. Be safe out there.

[–]Hospiwhater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]McLarenX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like a comfort test

[–]128bitworm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a damn serious accident. Are you pregnant yet? No? Well good for you. Now, since you are still all well and good...bye bye.

[–]EyeBurial 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If an ex gf told you that, would you have acted differently? And been upset? Or acted the same as you this with this girl.

[–]real-boethius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mandatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNKIjLLZMWs

How do you write women so well?

I think of a man, and I take away reason, and accountability.

[–]SpeakerCid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When a woman tries to make her actions seem as something she is not responsible for, it's over.

Respect is thrown out the window and she is nothing more than just someone to manipulate and play with.

She does not respect herself, why would I or anyone else?

Oh yeah, if I don't, I am then a worthless basement dwelling misogynist - meanwhile, the woman who does not even own up to her own actions is someone who needs to be placed on a pedestal.

And, you don't need to figure her out by the example OP posted. Look at her attitude when she over drinks, over eats, over spends and does not get the support she thinks she should be getting. THOSE are the earliest warning signs you should look out for and detect who she really is.

[–]Harry_Teak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So "accident sex" is replacing "it... just happened" in the female vernacular? Need to update my Girlspeak translation guide.

[–]Hydris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like shes setting up for when you sleep with someone else so she can flip shit about it and think shes justified in it. Not that it makes sense, but I'm sure that's whats shes doing, consciously or subconsciously.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At least shes honest, better than 80% of other girls who just straight up wouldnt tell you

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