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Rant/VentingBill Burr on society judging successful men who cheat. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by iamango

This brilliant set by Bill Bur has him talking about how dumb society gets while trying to bring down otherwise great and hugely successful men who committed infidelity.

Arnold Schwarzenegger spends a lifetime conquering one milestone after the other, and then suddenly all his achievements are forgotten, people get to bring him down and call his behaviour reprehensible because he fucked the babysitter. Men who get to judge Tiger Woods for doing what he did can't be expected to put themselves in his shoes and fathom his situation, simply because most such men don't exactly have the prettiest women on the planet lining up to sleep with them, no questions asked. Women who get to pass judgements on famous men who cheat can't be seriously expected to understand a guy's psychology, can't understand how a guy's dick constantly tells him to go for it, all the fucking time, day in and day out. Also, women would find it uncomfortable to account for the "behaviour" of the women who slept with Tiger Woods or Schwarzenegger, completely aware of the fact that these were married guys.

It may seem like Bill Burr is defending a man's right to cheat on his wife, but all he is essentially saying is that society puts in zero thought before judging a guy who fell for a beautiful, willing and inviting woman, while still in a relationship. Our minds find it comfortable to see things in black and white, and so people find it terribly convenient to label every such guy as a horny, unfeeling, good-for-nothing asshole who doesn't care about his wife or children, no matter what his track record in the past might have been, instead of trying to delve in deeper and understand things from his perspective.

The mere fact that a man will spend all his life building something great and magnificent, and then be willing to give it all away at the slightest temptation, for a few minutes of pleasure goes far enough to show how powerful those urges must have been for him.

"I can't resist the urges of Facebook", Bill Burr says, "and I get to judge Tiger Woods?" It is hard to admit this, but people who commit "good" are the same who may sometime commit "bad", and vice versa. Every person ever is neither black nor white, just an endless ocean of grey. Even the best of people, sometimes, are blundering, complicated beings, and that's just how it is.

Edit: I'm young and was thus far relatively unexposed to the awesomeness that Bill Burr is. That guy has an amazing understanding of human behaviour, and has giant balls for saying things that he says, a lot of which might outwardly appear to be just plain women-bashing. This guy should definitely be on the starter kit of this sub.


[–][deleted] 114 points115 points  (6 children)

I "found" Bill Burr while still married to my ex-wife. It was like he was speaking directly to me about my wife. its like he knew us, know how she acted and the BS she would try to pull. LOVED it. She hated it, shocking I know.

[–]systemshock869 58 points58 points [recovered]

The proof is in the pudding. I have to laugh at people who scoff at the things said here. It's like they've never even considered the bullshit that men go through and put up with, they just happily accept their lot in life without question. Well when thousands of years of literature, media across all forms, personal life experience/external observation, and write ups by hundreds of random guys from all walks of life- all paint the exact same general picture and line up with "the question" that has bothered me for my entire life, I can say with certainty that they tap into a universal truth. I mean, random strangers can predict your woman's behavior with extreme accuracy. This shit is real life.

Really, the dishonesty, misdirection, and slandering of the opposing school of thought should be a giant red flag for any thinking person.

Since there seems to be a lack of thinking people in this particularly shitty arena- gender relations- we need more Bill Burrs in the world.

[–]twatbutter 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I found TRP by complete chance but every fucking blooper who mentioned it talked about it pejoratively. It's Scientology-level of slandering and covering up what is said here on behalf of the bloopers and high n-count Hamsterinas.

[–]systemshock869 7 points7 points [recovered]

Oh yeah, One time on a gaming sub, a guy looked at my account with some kind of mod tool and called me out for being a "prolific" poster here. I just make random comments, but whatever.

He [?] accused me of being a rape apologist, cited some pretty dumbass statements from TRP, and would not listen to a shred of reason. I felt like it had to be a troll, or the most brainwashed person I have ever encountered. These monkeys are trained to actively fight critical thought. It's as bad, or worse than, a religion. Like you said- Scientology level of insanity.. and I think that would be a generous label.

[–]fingerthemoon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Beliefs about sexuality are even more deeply rooted in subconsciousness than religion and politics.

TRP is probably more controversial and inflammatory to most people than religious fundamentalism, racism or fascism.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Amen Brother. thats how I discovered him. I realized my ex was with me for a comfortable life. I work all the time and she shops all the time.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 112 points113 points  (113 children)

I've been in a few long term relationships. I've seen how women get when they get the commitment they crave. I'm stunned that there any men out there who don't cheat.

Another way to look at this shaming of married men - DO NOT MARRY. There you go, problem solved.

[–]cdtCPTret 13 points14 points  (80 children)

Hey glad I read this. Can you elaborate on "how they get when they get the commitment?" I don't think it's covered that much in the sub. I've only been in in actual LTR. I'm thinking to enter another but I'm wary that the second I do it will be the start of the end of the relationship/attraction.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 123 points124 points  (55 children)

how they get when they get the commitment

tl,dr:

Desire to have sex goes down

Quality of sex goes down

Frequency of sex goes down

Expressed level of satisfaction with life goes down

Respect for you goes down

All sorts of expectations go up

All sorts of demands go up

All sorts of problems multiply

Bitchiness goes up

[–]grewapair 111 points112 points  (40 children)

I noticed this after I got engaged. Suddenly, I became little more than the slave. I couldn't believe the rapid change in attitude.

Fuck that. I called the wedding off, ten days before the blessed event. One of the 5 smartest things I ever did.

[–]RetiredTimeHo 31 points32 points  (26 children)

I called the wedding off, ten days before the blessed event. One of the 5 smartest things I ever did.

Nicely done. What are the other 4?

[–]grewapair 111 points112 points  (25 children)

  1. Starting my own business.

  2. Bailing out of the engagement ten days before the wedding when I realized my future was to be the slave to my fiancee's dreams, which mostly involved impressing other people with how much of my money she had access to (noted above).

  3. Studying my ass off to get into a top ten undergrad only to study my ass off to graduate on top of it. I wasn't the smartest by a long shot, but I learned hard work could make up for it.

  4. Giving up my "career" with 2% raises per year to go to grad school to move up.

  5. Making fitness the number one priority in my life. I lift 3X per week, and do HIIT cardio 2X per week. I refuse to let anything stop me from that. I'm turning 55 in a few months and most of my friends are either fat, or skinny wimps, but 22 year olds still come up to me and give me their numbers. I have a schedule for my fitness activities, and NOTHING gets in the way.

There's probably one more. My businesses took off and I started making big dollars. Friends, family, girlfriends all told me to spend more, because I had "made it". I did and was swarmed by gold diggers, some of them more beautiful than any model you could imagine. But they were just after the money and so it was ridiculously empty. I realized I was spending money not to make myself happy, but to impress other people I didn't need to impress, and I was less happy than I was before the money. So I stopped dressing in expensive clothes, and looking for an expensive car and watch that weren't going to do anything for me, and went back to the lifestyle I had before the businesses. I am MUCH happier. My businesses could all fail and I couldn't care less. If a customer pisses me off, out they go: I don't need them to maintain my lifestyle. Making a ton of money, and then living WELL below your means gives you a stress free life. No one would ever rob me, I look like I have nothing, and gold diggers ignore me.

[–]Luce_Bree 38 points38 points [recovered]

I, for one, think you should make a separate post about your life and experiences.

[–]RetiredTimeHo 20 points21 points  (1 child)

What kinda business?

As a young adult redpiller your story is an inspiration.

[–]Specter242 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Always pleasing to hear stories from Vets

[–]Manirvo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You have to give us a lesson in how you attained a stress free life.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fucking rad, man.

What do you do in your free time, when you aren't at work or lifting? What are your hobbies?

[–]RedTheFuckUp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should write a post on titled "The five most important things I've done" to give us youngin's another example of what we should do. If you don't mind, what kind of business?

[–]tsudonimh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Living within your means is the single biggest way to reduce stress. Scrooge (Dickens) says it well.

Annual income 20 pounds, annual expenditure 19, 19 and six, result happiness. Annual income 20 pounds, annual expenditure, 20, ought and six, result misery.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (9 children)

but 22 year olds still come up to me and give me their numbers.

Being 26, I still cannot fucking believe this. I'm not saying you are lying, but just can't wait to get older. I hope to experience it one day.

[–]JihadDerp 11 points12 points  (6 children)

I'm 30 and getting more 18 year olds than I did when I was 18 through late 20s. As soon as I started hitting the gym 6 days a week and eating right (within a few months), pussy was literally opening up in front of me.

Case in point: was on a third date with the hottest 28 year old I'd ever met. Thought I hit the fucking jackpot. But I got there early. Chatted up the cashier. Got bored on the date. Came back the next day and asked the 18 year old cashier out. We were fuck buddies for a few months. Didn't know she was 18 until she let it slip that she had to go home or her parents would kill her.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

As soon as I started hitting the gym 6 days a week and eating right (within a few months), pussy was literally opening up in front of me.

Quick question! Did you see this change after getting aesthetically fit, or before it? I feel like we start doing it for the aesthetic to attract girls but ultimately the confidence that comes from working out is what drives in the pussy.

[–]JihadDerp 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It's hard to say. I definitely got comments from girls about how good I looked. I guess that was the main thing. But then again I felt like a million bucks, so maybe that confidence is what looked good.

[–]fingerthemoon 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Looks only open the door.

After separating from my 6+year LTR I started doing crossfit and after a year of devotion I had achieved an awesome body. I'm also above average in looks and have been told I could be a model. But despite looking good I was emotionally needy and had no game. I was also BP indoctrinated.

It was frustrating because I could catch the eye of any girl and get her number but would inevitably turn her off as soon as I started talking about myself. They can sniff out your shit and will choose a less attractive man who is more emotionally/financially/socially stable.

Looks matter to women but not nearly as much as they do to men. I would say that even more import is your state of mind, career stability and abundance mentality (or lack of neediness).

I think the main reason TRP advocates lifting as a first measure is because it will help you in all of the other areas of your life and it's the easiest place to start improving yourself, not that looks are the most important.

[–]sweetleef 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Women are attracted to power (money, status, fame, etc.), which can increase with age. Physique and age are relevant only as they relate to power.

Monica didn't wear her kneepads because of Bill's abs.

[–]ShounenEgo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All I say is that it doesn't happen out of merit of age, but all the activities he did, the experience from business to almost marriage affected his behavior and it shows as masculinity so much that it's an amazing contrast. You get to the "Super Saiyan 2" level.

It's not "feel good bullshit" when people say that women age like cheese, men age like wine.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is absolutely motivating. Sadly it's a bit too late for me to get into a top undergrad, or graduate top of my current university (I've slacked half way through it so far), but I'm doing what I finally took the courage and found the information to change. Currently working on making fitness the number one priority in my life, and hearing you say how important it was to you is extremely reassuring, I've got that exact same 3x lift and 2x cardio schedule.

[–]pilledwillingly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude this belongs in its own post. It's also heartening to see studying up there, as a 29 year old dude who just quit a back-breaking six-figure job to go to university for the first time, I'm happy to see that your smartest things were pushing academia.

[–]UCISee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So much of this. Your last statement is gold. I'm younger than you by a bit, but as soon as the divorce hit I was all button up shirts and slacks, "suiting up" to go out, but it was miserable. I dropped that "impress others" mentality and just made myself happy. Some days I rock a nice shirt and some good looking pants, some days I dont change out of my gym clothes. It isn't laziness, its what makes me comfortable. The thing I love is when women cruise yoga pants and a hoodie they are told its okay to be comfortable. When a man rocks gym shorts and a hoodie he's looked at like a lazy piece of shit. The happiness comes in knowing that IDGAF what those who call me lazy is. I hate Mark Zuckerberg, but you can't totally disregard a billionaire who wears flip flops and sweatshirts to business meetings.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I called the wedding off, ten days before the blessed event.

You should consider turning this into a field report. Tell us about how she reacted, how your family reacted, how her family reacted. Provide some perspective on what to expect for those men who are uncertain about their upcoming weddings, but worried about the fallout of canceling.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes i was thinking the same thing. Please do a field report.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Fuck that. I called the wedding off, ten days before the blessed event.

Red Pill as fuck, dude. Holy shit.

[–]1v1mebruh 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Fuck ya dude you should be proud of yourself for having the guts and awareness to make that decision; few others would have been able to do the same.

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Same here. I was engaged but didn't go through with it. I thought the ring would make her happy but all it did was give her more expectations, make her more demanding, bitchy and all around unhappy with me.

When she refused me sex that was the beginning of the end. A deal breaker in my book. It only happened a couple of times but even in my BP delusions I was smart enough to read the writing on the wall and got out.

Separating myself from her has been one of the biggest challenges of my life. I was not prepared for how much I was psychologically attached to her. And of course she was getting fucked within 3 days of me leaving, before I even had all my stuff moved out.

[–]grewapair 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Find an hb4 or 5 as a plate. It was tough for me as well, but having a plate helped a lot.

I'd pick her up on Fridays after work, bring her home, we'd make dinner and screw. Brought her home every time, no spending the night. I did that every week until I found one I liked better.

Your first plate is just the rebound girl. Check your standards at the door.

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I wish it was that simple for me. My rebound just made me miss her more. I've got high standards and in the 3 1/2 years since I left I haven't been able to get one as attractive and feminine as my ex. I'd rather go without than settle.

It's because of my location and life situations that I haven't been able to replace her yet. Just not that many options for me right now but I'm working on it.

[–]grewapair 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I had the same high standards. It took me almost a year to find someone, but she was way better than my fiance. Having a rebound plate gave me the ability to hold out for someone better. It also validated me to the next one. Id recommend it, and yes, the rebound is a poor replacement, just better than being alone when you aren't used to it.

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going to try no porn and restricting masturbation in hopes it will make me horny enough to fuck less desirable women.

I'm just so damn picky. I've only dated 5 women in the last few years and every one of them had an ex on a string and multiple orbiters. I become indignant when their lack of morality begins to show itself and I really need to get over this. I need to stop holding women to unrealistic standard of honesty and decency and start objectifying them as nothing more than sex objects. Sounds fucked up but that's the conclusion I've come to.

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[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish it was early on but I'm approaching middle age now.

I never had a problem getting girls and have walked away from a few really good ones. I always had natural abundance mentality because of my looks, talent and confidence. The problem was that I believed in true love and walked as soon as it became apparent that she wasn't it. But now I understand just what love is and have accepted the fact that I'll never meet a woman that I connect with on every level.

Now I realize that my ex was probably as good as they come: Good cook/house cleaner, perfect body, excellent hygiene, feminine, nurturing, health conscious, disciplined, faithful, devoted and sexually submissive. She let me take her whenever, wherever and however I wanted. We even shared many interests. I just got tired of her stupidity, bitchiness and sense of propriety and I've always had a dream of being with a musician that I could fuck and jam with. My rebound is an amazing musician and after more understanding and experience I'm actually weary of female musicians now. They tend to be too dominant and masculine for my liking.

Like my sister use to joke that I wanted a supermodel who can sing. I want it all and my standards are unrealistic. I've stopped looking for the perfect woman and now I'll be happy when I find one that's at least as fuckable as my ex.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like you grew a pair (scnr)

But seriously, good idea. Others let themselves be tied down by their promise and only make things worse that way.

How did she take it? What were the consequences?

[–]BenjiDread 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This list is spot on.

Source: My life.

[–]Assassin1476 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This list should be in the side bar. Plain and simple.

[–]Indigoplacebo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Been married twice, can confirm.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, if you get complacent as a man and stop being desirable. The reason this happens is laziness, having a "I won it I don't have to keep working at it" mentality, and getting fat. I'm not endorsing marriage, it's harder. If you're less respected and desired by your wife / LTR then that's on you.

[–]ShounenEgo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spot the fucking on! And this is why I learned here to keep things spicy, always keep her from thinking that she "has me for granted". Not getting married helps a shit ton since it removes the moral obligation that "I'm yours now no matter what" so that she can be free to shove ice creams down her throat and withhold sex for 300 days.

But there's also another side: Work on yourself, since you cannot negotiate desire it will show whether the desire she showed was primal, animalistic and genuine or simply another chess move on her way to your wallet.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 46 points47 points  (20 children)

Can you elaborate on "how they get when they get the commitment?"

When they have commitment, they get lazy, bored, entitled. They assume the man is following a beta strategy, and aim to exploit him ruthlessly. Their attraction goes down, their demands go up.

Many men in this situation double down on their beta tendencies... "I just have to prove my love/devotion to her, and I'll win back her heart!". This is the Disney/Hollywood lie. That women are virtuous creatures who just need to be loved in the correct way to open up their hearts [and by implication legs].

I've only been in in [one?] actual LTR. I'm thinking to enter another but I'm wary that the second I do it will be the start of the end of the relationship/attraction.

In my experience the start of a LTR is a period of excitement. New Relationship Energy. It lasts a few months. After that, you're on a decline for 2-3 years. After that: welcome to hell.

The problem is that men are inclined (and women steer men towards) beta tendencies - especially in relationships. And then lie about what's happening. His commitment goes up, his options go down, and her attraction slowly vanishes. But she never says that (the truth would lose his commitment). She says "I'm more tired these days". Or "We're married now, I'm not that kind of girl any more!". Or a million other lies that mean "I am not attracted to you like I was for Chad, or how I was when I was trying to tie you down".

Over time, the lies will get more and more transparent, until it's basically "We're married, we have a child, I've got you".

Men in love do not believe any of this, until it's too late.

The more reluctant you are to enter a LTR, the less commitment you show, the more you keep your other options open, the less control she has - the better your relationship will work. If you give her the upper hand, she'll lose all attraction for you. This is the cold reality of how relationships work that Hollywood and women don't want you to know.

Try it by all means. You can do a lot to slow the decline. But never plan on it lasting, and be realistic about what marriage and parenthood looks like for a man in 2016.

Also check out the Black Dragon Blog (no affiliation with me), he says a lot of the same stuff and it's bang on the money in my experience.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (13 children)

I mean, it's pretty bleak, man... but we've gotta reproduce somehow. All the idiots are doing so at waaaay faster rates than the productive, responsible among us are.

Shit. Maybe it's downright immoral for responsible people to bring up responsible children in a world in which they'll be forever outvoted by the irresponsible...

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (7 children)

I mean, it's pretty bleak, man... but we've gotta reproduce somehow

I dunno... having kids makes people less happy. That's the truth parents will never admit to you.

So I'm going to be less happy, pay a fortune, be forever beholden to some manipulative woman who sees me as nothing more than a retirement fund... for a species and a society that has no interest in me, my best interests, and will use and abuse my male children for its own benefit?

I'm not seeing the upsides here...

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I dunno man. I get that, but... shit, the war of immortality is won by sending your genes into the future. I don't want kids to make me happy, I want kids to be fulfilled. I think family is an important responsibility for a man to shoulder, and someday I'm going to be weak and infirm... and I'd like my children - rather than the state - to be my caretakers.

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Up until modern times having children was as much an inevitability as a necessity.

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[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a bluepill friend who says "don't get married" and "don't have kids" followed by "you know Matty... you should meet that special someone... "

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

we've gotta reproduce somehow. All the idiots are doing so at waaaay faster rates than the productive, responsible among us are.

how zany is it that natural selection ends up disfavoring the responsible and smart.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

It doesn't.

Artificial selection, on the other hand...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Artificial selection

No such thing as artificial, everything that happens is part of nature's course.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose. I'd argue that there a difference between someone reproducing and providing for his family than someone reproducing... and voting for politicians to force other people to provide for his family.

Right now we got an awful goddamned lot of number two going on.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Many men in this situation double down on their beta tendencies... "I just have to prove my love/devotion to her, and I'll win back her heart!". This is the Disney/Hollywood lie. That women are virtuous creatures who just need to be loved in the correct way to open up their hearts [and by implication legs].

And we're also constantly enabled in that mindset; the entire blame game is centered around making men think they screwed up.

You aren't romantic enough.

Your choreplay sucks.

You neglect her.

You don't appreciate her contributions.

etc. pp. ad nauseam.

Women on the other hand generally only get told in which ways they don't have to contribute and where they have the right to be demanding (because apparently their default mode is being too self-sacrificing and demanding too little so they constantly have to be reminded to also think of themselves for a change).

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yes. And the reason marriage use to work was because of societal pressure against divorce and the lack of birth control. Women were far more dependent on men and didn't have the option to indulge their hypergamy. The balance of power between the sexes in modern society has been skewed so far towards the female imperative that the traditional state of monogamy and pair boding our species evolved to have has become almost impossible to achieve..

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

the traditional state of monogamy and pair boding our species evolved to have has become almost impossible to achieve

What saddens me is that so many men see this state of affairs, and conclude they need to double down on the betadom.

[–]fingerthemoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude, I'm sad for the women as well because they don't realize how fucked they've become by all this. We're all fucked.

It's like men as a whole decided to let women drive and she fucking crashed and totaled the car. And we've all but forgotten how to drive let alone build another car.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Many men in this situation double down on their beta tendencies... "I just have to prove my love/devotion to her, and I'll win back her heart!". This is the Disney/Hollywood lie. That women are virtuous creatures who just need to be loved in the correct way to open up their hearts [and by implication legs].

Been there, done that. (whispered) It doesn't work.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been there, done that.

We all have, man..... we all have

[–]benuntu 2 points3 points  (1 child)

As a general rule: they want you to provide more, and them to provide less. The funny thing is that men typically taper down the effort in a LTR. Nobody gets what they want!

[–]JihadDerp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Commitment for men is the equivalent of pussy for women. The sooner (and/or more frequently) you give it up, the less respect you get.

Women are the gate keepers of sex. Men are the gate keepers of commitment.

Do you respect a woman who fucks on the first date and has had multiple partners? No. Likewise, women don't respect men who commit immediately and do that every time they meet a girl.

[–]TheReformist94 3 points4 points  (30 children)

i honestly cannot see why TRP has a problem with men cheating on women. There's enough examples on here of women behaving like shit, and given the opportunity with a higher smv male, they will cheat on you. they are inherently dishonest creatures who dont understand the concept of loyalty. most women dont make the basic criteria of LTR material.

[–]ManOfGrapes 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I think one of the important reasons to consider is if she has a boyfriend or is married how the other guy will react. Most of them being BP, they likely could turn violent quickly.

[–]Noolaw 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Silverbacks get violent on other male animals all the time. I have seen sugar daddies in my home Country Thailand kill younger boys for having sex with the girls they are sponsoring. The problem is the younger girls know this but they still tell the young guys they have no sugar daddy. Its kind of dangerous but young thai guys try to not go after girls that have a sponsor.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What happens to the mistress?

[–]Noolaw 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Depends on the guy really...but usually they just stop sponsoring or just slap her on the wrist.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So, effectively zero consequences. Thanks, I'll be extra careful if I'm in any country where kept women are common.

[–]Nodeal_reddit 8 points9 points  (7 children)

You sound bitter. It is what it is. AWALT, but not all women DESERVE to be cheated on. The issue with cheating is the lying. Spin plates if you want, but you cross a moral line when you're telling them you are exclusive but fucking other women.

[–]TheReformist94 12 points13 points  (6 children)

moral line? what moral line? sexual strategy is amoral. is it only amoral when applied to women?

70% of divorces are intiated by women, many of these are divorce rape. moral line?

Women have in mammals what is called concealed ovulation, to disguise paternity, this is cheating. where is the moral line?

AF:BB, dual sexual inerently dishonest strategy is embedded in women. if she cannot (which is 80% of female pop) obtain commitment from an AF, her optimum sexual strategy is cuckoldry. Which equates to acquiring a man's genes and getting another lesser beta male to pour 18 years of time, love and devotion into unwittingly raising a child that is not his. in this hypergamy, does it care of the moral line crossed?

[–]Nodeal_reddit 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Biology is amoral. Openly spinning plates is amoral to a non-religious person. But even the mot primitive civilizations view lying as immoral (in almost all circumstances).

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.

-Groucho Marx

[–]TheReformist94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeh.you know fucking women behind your wife's back is biology as well? You know AF:bb,branch swinging is amoral and lying as well? Women lie all the time,their strategy is optimised and based on lying so why waste your time?

[–]UmWhatIsThisEven 0 points1 point  (14 children)

given the opportunity with a higher smv male, they will cheat on you.

Let me ask you a question. For the sake of this mental exercise, I'm going to assume you are happily and thoroughly 100% straight.

Would you suck a dick for $1,000,000?

How about $1,000,000,000?

Everyone has a price; this true of both women and men. You would be willing to do something thoroughly and utterly reprehensible/repulsive to you if the payoff was good enough. So to say "AWALT" is merely saying that there is a point at which all women will abandon their reservations/misgivings/morals and cheat for a projected "payoff" (i.e., upgrading/branch-swinging). But the takeaway is, not all women are equally likely to cheat. Don't lump "most" women together in the same category unless you're willing to be intellectually honest enough to do the same with men.

If all the women you've encountered are the cheating type, then you need change something. Change yourself (improve your SMV) and change your setting (stop going to bars and clubs). Women you meet on Tinder are going to be a bit different than, say, women who meet up with their crocheting circle twice a month...

[–]wakocid 27 points28 points  (1 child)

It's the 1% rule. You do 99% of the things right in your life, and women will focus on the 1% you do wrong....

[–]antwonedw 9 points10 points  (0 children)

So true. I remember with my ex. Did so much good shit for her. But fuck up once and thats all the mention and keep bringing up.

[–]drtranmd 17 points18 points  (11 children)

[–]getbackdownhere 23 points24 points  (0 children)

To be fair, Arnold probably needs a sturdy woman to really unleash his potential

[–]Dustin_Bromain 18 points19 points  (3 children)

When you gotta nut, you gotta nut.

[–]hugeveinycock 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I think what the real problem is that pussy gets stale really fucking fast.

So while Arnold didn't bang a hottie, he did bang someone new, which is almost just as good.

[–]tekn0_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Latinas have muscles which no other muscles rarely uses

[–]Squeezymypenisy 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Maria shriver is only slightly better looking. Her face looks like an earthquake.

[–]Nodeal_reddit 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yeah, but that kid was like 13 before he got busted. I've GOT to think that she was a lot hotter 13 years and at least one kid ago.

Edit: holy shit, Arnold. Holy freaking shit.

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[–]Mithra9009 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy shit. For a moment, the girl in the bottom left looked like Bill Clinton.

[–]Sdom1 124 points125 points  (10 children)

Well, he's actually coming down on beta males who judge these hyper alphas for cheating. Basically he's saying that they've never had to deal with temptation, let alone the extreme levels that the true elites are subjected to.

[–]iamango[S] 65 points66 points  (4 children)

There is that, but I thought there was SO much more. When he recounts everything that Schwarzenegger has ever achieved in his life, he's basically bringing you to his side, leading you to feel the indignation and anger when Schwarzenegger commits one mistake and then every Tom, Dick and Harry gets to judge him. "This guy, with a life full of achievements and greatness, is the guy you want to paint all over as a horny infidel who only cares about pussy?" is the question he makes you ask.

He talks about a woman writing an article in the Times magazine on why successful men behave like pigs, when a woman just cannot begin to understand what it feels like to have a dick and to constantly have to deal with these strong, primal urges to fuck as many women as would let you.

He talks about how people will tell you to watch and learn all sorts of useless shit in life, but nobody will ever give you a lesson about how your own dick will be ready to fuck you over, to bring it all crashing down, at the slightest temptation.

Even the male bashing that you describe is just Bill's way of bringing out the contrast between Tiger Woods and his critics. He says to the critics: Of course you judge that guy so easily! You had zero instances in your own life where you would be confronted with anything remotely close to the kind of temptations Tiger Woods had to deal with. You shouldn't get to coat Tiger Woods all over with "Shitty Person".

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You had zero instances in your own life where you would be confronted with anything remotely close to the kind of temptations Tiger Woods had to deal with.

Which is precisely why they like to gang up on the guys who do.

It's jealousy and sour grapes. "What I pig! I would never cheat, no sir, not I."

(forget that you don't have women throwing themselves at you)

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Norm Macdonald's latest album has a bit where he talks about how, mathematically, Tiger Woods is the most faithful man who ever lived. If you take the 20-50 chicks he banged and divided by the ones that were literally throwing themselves at him... It's basically 0%.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 3 points4 points  (3 children)

That logic is stupid because it can be applied to any slut in existence.

A woman who sleeps with dozens of men has probably rejected thousands.

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Men and women shouldn't be held to the same standards in regards to fidelity. The repercussions are entirely different and our biological impulses are different.

Sexual selection evolved us to have often opposing imperatives. One of the main problems with modern society is this idea of equality which is a social construct with no basis in empirical reality.

I would think you're already aware of this but your statement implies otherwise.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps, but my premise is dudes.

Also - listen to the bit. Probably better than the shit that I'm spewing.

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[–]PIGamer86 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's awesome. "The only reason you're here is because you're sucking my dick!"

[–]HoundDogs 34 points35 points  (14 children)

As an aside, I love hoe Burr consistently double's down on controversial stuff and gets very serious as opposed to backing off of the pressure and lightening up.

Just when you think he's said the most controversial item and he's winding down the joke, he re-commits with

Dude, there is an epidemic of gold digging whores in this country.

Burr is really coming into his own now. He's right up there with CK in terms of stand up performance and skill.

[–]Miheegz 47 points48 points  (13 children)

Burr coming into his own right now? Maybe you are just discovering him but you need to do some research. Bill has been killing it for a minute. I love all three Burr, Patrice, and Louis CK. However, Burr talks about the most real shit. He will see underlying societal influences that drive our behavior and expose the humor and the injustice in it. I feel like Louie focuses on non consequential everyday stuff and Patrice focused on bitches and was so vulgar with it most people would miss the gem of wisdom hidden within. That's why Burr is the best of the 3 in my opinion. Patrice is my idol tho

[–]Endorsed ContributorPopeman79 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Spot on. Louis CK and Burr have similar types of humour and that's why we compare them, but Louis focuses on light stuff while Burr goes all in. CK makes me laugh, Burr makes me grow while I laugh

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They both grew up in Boston proper!

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think Louis is BP. One of the best comedians ever and I deeply respect his skill, but still BP.

[–]HoundDogs 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I know he's been good and I've followed him for years, but the last couple of years he's been growing tremendously both in the public eye and in his comedic delivery/material.

Here's an example of what I mean.

(https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bill%20burr)

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yup, he's taking off. I think our current climate is somewhat responsible for that. Not unlike why Trump is so popular. It's push-back. I wouldn't be surprised if most of his fans are men though. My mom loves comedy and when I asked her if she liked Bill Burr she said, IDK he's kinds sexist. lol. He's fucking hilarious and comedy is funny because of the grains of truth. It's not funny if it's not true.

[–]HoundDogs 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My wife is the same way. She didn't like him. She loves Louie CK, though. He seems to keep his stuff a bit more balanced but still manages to put together some amazing material.

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Louie can joke about fucking dead children and be less offensive to society than Bill joking about gold-digging whores.

Louie never really questions the "sacred truth about women" except in that bit where he says women will take a shit in your heart. lol. He gets close sometimes but never overtly calls them out like Burr does.

edit:

Here's the bit:

Louis CK Girls vs Boys

[–]1Jaereth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Patrice's call in show is where the real RP lessons were being dealt out. His stand up was good, but listening to real life people call in and get a dose of it right on the phone with their real life problems was phenomenal. I learned a lot listening to those back when I started my journey.

[–]someonecallamedic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Patrice was the truth. Bill always said he felt like a little kid at the big boy table when he was around. To all of you burr fans who haven't heard patrice please check him out. His stuff on o and a is pure insight into the thought process of women and how to navigate their bullshit.

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Don't forget Chris Rock. He speaks about sexual inequality just as much as Bill Burr. Some of the stuff he says about women might even be difficult for Burr to pull of.

[–]Miheegz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Really, the chris rock i have seen is toned down than bill burr. Do you have a specific example in mind you could share?

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Chris Rock - Differences Between Men & Women

"Pussy costs money but dick is free." lol, so much gold.

[–]Miheegz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen that one and it's hilarious but >> "Pussy costs money but dick is free."
is the only RP gem in there.

[–]Adurell 24 points25 points  (19 children)

Waaaait a second.

Do you realise that the 2nd/3rd paragraph is simply male hamstering? I mean, just listen to yourself - it's like listening to a girl trying to excuse herself for riding the cock carousel. "Women who get to pass judgements on famous men who cheat can't be seriously expected to understand a guy's psychology" ? Well, going that route, you might as well say we can't understand theirs. And the whole "hey, you can't resist temptation forever" sounds laughable when you consider this subreddit actively advocates a disciplined lifestyle.

Now, before the criticism is met with the usuall "you don't agree with me, you must be a beta blue pill durr derp" - I don't mean to attack these gentlemen, but merely your flawed logic and double standards.

[–]through_a_ways 15 points16 points  (14 children)

I agree with you, there's a lot of male hamstering on TRP. People selectively choose which issues they want to apply logic to, and which ones they want to perceive emotionally, so as to give themselves moral self importance. It's good to feel that you're right.

However, you are not completely correct in this particular case. A man cheating with several women is not equivalent to a woman cheating. It is more equivalent to a woman having a bunch of close gay guy friends, or something along those lines.

Man cheats with 100 women, wife still knows she has a child. Woman cheats with 1 man, husband has a strong chance of not passing on his genes.

The situation of a woman "riding the cock carousel" is analogous to a man falling in love with every woman he sees, and offering her tons of commitment, validation, etc. despite not having had any sexual interaction.

Also, blue pillers are less self-aware than even the freshest batch of newbies on this board.

[–]Adurell 5 points6 points  (8 children)

I guess that this is kind of connected to how you percieve things. If you look at sex through the biological imperative alone (which is the standard on trp) then perhaps. I believe that sex has other roles/functions for humans, more meaning to it (and I'm not really talking about the warm fuzzies, there were even some articles floating around) , so comparing male sexual intercourse with a girl having close friends is a bit far fetched.

Yes, they probably are less self-aware, but then again, being red-pilled carries with itself the danger (that doesn't get enough attention around here imho) of developing a confidence that blinds judgement - the sort of "religious enthusiasm" for the newfound alleged alpha status. It makes people think that whatever they believe in is true since any measure of healthy self-doubts is frowned upon as "beta".

[–]through_a_ways 4 points5 points  (7 children)

If you look at sex through the biological imperative alone

I believe that sex has other roles/functions for humans, more meaning to it, so comparing male sexual intercourse with a girl having close friends is a bit far fetched.

But this is the only paradigm with any validity. The organism evolves instincts and functions which encourage the duplication of its genes, and the survival and second order duplication from taht vessel (the offspring).

Womens' primary value comes from sex. This is because female reproductive gametes and processes are the expensive limiting factors in reproduction.

Since males have evolved to have a high sex drive (which was advantageous for 99.99% of history as far as getting mates goes), the sex they offer is essentially worthless in the absence of other factors: good genes, high status, wealth of resources, attractive behavior, etc.

Since male sexual intercourse is worthless, and female sexual intercourse is the prime means through which the female organism derives its value, the situation of a man sexually cheating on his wife is objectively nowhere near as reprehensible as a woman cheating on her husband. On the contrary, women are more attracted to men when they know the man in question is capable of cheating (although this is different from actually cheating, or seeking to cheat).

On the other hand, a situation where a man became emotionally close to another woman, at the expense of his wife, or gave a significant portion of his resources to another woman, would be the most appropriate equivalent to a woman's sexual infidelity. It still is not equivalent, because female sexual infidelity can kill her spouse's lineage, while male emotional/financial infidelity can only slightly worsen his spouse's offspring's life. Female sexual infidelity is still by far the worst offense one can commit in a relationship.

[–]Adurell 1 point2 points  (5 children)

"Only" is such a bold word.

I'm not gonna whiteknight around. To each his own, I suppose.

[–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (4 children)

"Only" is such a bold word.

Can you think of another valid paradigm through which we can view sex, which simultaneously rebuts my point?

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone who gets it. Understanding the mechanisms of evolution and sexual selection are absolutely necessary in understanding reality. Biology is psychology.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It is more equivalent to a woman having a bunch of close gay guy friends

I don't get the point you are trying to make. I know sex has been emotionally devalued in the last decade or so, but believing it has so little bonding value to be compared to a friendship without any sexual value is quite extreme.

Man cheats with 100 women, wife still knows she has a child. Woman cheats with 1 man, husband has a strong chance of not passing on his genes.

I really believe that the argument about human evolutionary biology is void the moment sex is recreative and not reproductive, which is the case for 99.9% of the sex in modern western society. How many times you (or anyone else in this sub, really) had sex with the intention of having a baby?

We evolved into the instincts we have today through natural selection, not because we are mind controlled by our genes. My sperm doesn't get offended if it goes in a kleenex rather than in an egg. Instincts are just deep rooted emotions that concidentally serve a purpose for evolution. And that purpose is long lost, since earth is choke full of human beings.

If you allow justifying male infidelity because of these instincts, then I think you should trust human willpower more.

(you is general for this subreddit, not pointing any fngers, since it seems this kind of mentality is quite dominant here)

[–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I really believe that the argument about human evolutionary biology is void the moment sex is recreative and not reproductive

Then you should analogously believe that any argument about calories and obesity is void the when eating is done for recreation, and not for survival, the former of which is the norm in modern society.

[–]night-addict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey mods.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for not being like other mods of other subs, and allowing us to self-criticize.

This kind of post is what makes TRP great and allows us to improve.

[–]iamango[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You know what, you are right. This doesn't sound half as nice now. I hope you get the main point, even though the you-dont-have-a-dick-so-dont-judge-me is not right at all. Don't put a blanket over anything and be done with it, is what the set implies. Society tends to label instantly. People tend to over glorify/vilify famous people according to whether or not what they did had cultural approval or not. All BB led me to believe was that even seemingly rational people often end up doing shit that seems insane.

Arnold cheated. What he did was not appropriate and BB didn't say for once that he was right, or take away his blame. Just pointed how men and women would find his behaviour unthinkably wrong and absolutely unpardonable, how every huge achievement in Arnold's life was from that point of time forever overshadowed by the fact that he once cheated on his wife with the babysitter.

[–]thenemaxofredpill 17 points18 points  (15 children)

Was hanging out with my LTR and her family. Of course her 50 year old mother was complaining how she is single on Valentines day. Overheard her say that she found out her boyfriend was cheating on her. I have conditioned my LTR to be a Red Pill Woman and she just looks at me and gives me the look of "I know...calm down". This woman was really surprised that a 49 year old guy who owns his own business, a fucking yacht, a house on the beach, and is a 6'4" decent looking black man...cheated on her. And come to find out it wasn't with one woman...it was with a couple of late 20 something year old women. I just smiled at my LTR and shook my head.

[–]Dustin_Bromain 5 points6 points  (14 children)

How do you "condition" a fish to be "red pill"? Women can't be red pill.

[–]hugeveinycock 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I'd say Patrice O'Neal's widow is extremely red pill. She writes instructional books for all the clueless women who have no idea how to treat their man.

[–]Dustin_Bromain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've got to see this shit... I'll keep an open mind though.

[–]anooblol 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There's a sub for redpillwomen. Go check it out I forget the exact name. RPWomen or redpillwomen idk something along those lines

[–]T0000009 8 points9 points  (5 children)

From birth... My mom is dam near a perfect unicorn, and if you knew her background you would say it too.

Problem is... women like her are gone now, no more are being made.

[–]Specter242 8 points9 points  (1 child)

"From birth... My mom is dam near a perfect unicorn, and if you knew her background you would say it too."

I know AWALT but when I think of my mother and grandmother and type of women they are/were, it's really hard for me to place them in the same category of AWALT

[–]T0000009 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would agree, the time they grew up in was vastly different, strong families, solid role models, minimal media/govt propaganda, and a lot of other things.

Women like that simply don't exist anymore, and since the dumb broads in the EU and here in the west have decided to sell out their countries I assure you no more will ever exist.

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[–]T0000009 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While true, I'm looking at it from a TRP perspective, not excusing obvious faults, she still does quite a few AWALT things however those a very minimal.

The thing is that how her life went would not be possible today, the discipline, the rules, the conditions, all of it would be labeled "abuse" and some of it is probably illegal now.

[–]RetiredTimeHo 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Women can't be red pill.

That's what you think. There's levels to this shit.

[–]Billabongbunny 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I just don't see why you would even get married if monogamy did not appeal to you. If you enter into a legally binding contract where one of the clauses is to remain sexually exclusive to your partner, why shouldn't society critique you for breaching that contract? A cheater exposes their partner to sexually transmitted diseases they otherwise would not be at risk for. It's not just a breach of trust, it's potentially causing physical harm to your partner. I think that's condemnable. Of course I also agree that society shouldn't ignore their professional successes because of one personal failure. I guess I just would no longer consider them role models as people but as professionals they're still admirable.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (12 children)

This is one of the reasons even though I hate Russel Wilson, I have to give the guy props.

He divorced his starter wife a couple years back because he was coming up big time and knew he could smash pretty much every 10 on the continent.

He divorced her before he got his big contract and before he started smashing the army of skanks he was about to command.

Now no one can shame him when he fucks his way through the legions of hoes who will be throwing themselves at him AND his starter wife wont get half of his massive contract.

I just wish the Seahawks weren't such rivals of the Packers. I would love to love Russel Wilson.

*EDIT OP if you like Bill Burr check out Patrice Oneal if you aren't familiar with him already. Bill Burr is like Patrice Oneal lite.

[–]FramedInRed 16 points17 points  (3 children)

I'm a big Seahawks fan and as much as I like Russell Wilson, he's definitely not a RedPill example. No doubt he's alpha as fuck but he's majorly, religiously, BluePill. He claims to be in a non-sexual relationship with the singer Ciara (a single mother). They're supposedly waiting for marriage.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Oh my god. Thats fucking horrible. I take back everything I said.

Maybe thats part of why he is so good? I vaguely remember some study where they found out guys who don't fuck play better.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Guys who don't fuck tend to do better in everything. As long as their complete focus is on their goal.

[–]hugeveinycock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yack, Ciara's looks fell off in a gigantic way. 10 years ago she was extremely hot. Now she looks more like Kobe Bryant.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy 4 points5 points  (2 children)

They're not big rivals man they just beat your team once as you choked your ballsacks out

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You obviously don't remember the fail marry.

But yeah, that choke was in fucking credible. I think it gave me ED for a week.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i bet dude, thankfully a Belichick lead team would never allow that

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 2 points3 points  (1 child)

this is such shitpost. while i have utmost respect for arnold's achievements, what he did or what tiger did were, for better or worse, their faults. your entire tirade seems to shift blame on women that line up to fuck these rich, successful guys and the guy can't help himself. you're literally spinning off the same rhetoric as women do when they inadvertently blame everyone else for their mistakes.

[–]aherne18 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Double standard reversed: men instead of women are excused because, well, they are horny and want to "live their lives". And almost forgot: all those who judge them are frustrated omega who never get their turn...

[–]ArkAngelEV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

comedy gold. great delivery. the silence between sets is hilarious

[–]antwonedw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that was funny.

BB is brilliant.

[–]Mythicalflavour 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's honestly surprising that famous/wealthy good looking men don't cheat endlessly. Saw what you want about male hamstering.

There are guys who live every day having 9's and 10's throwing themselves at them all the time. Tiger Woods is a great example of this.

[–]10199 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Directly after copulation the devil's laughter is heard.

[–]vaelamin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Ugh Bill Burr. Wtf happen to that guy? Constantly talking shit about people who get married then he marries that ugly obnoxious black chick.

[–]APock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hopefully she sucks a mean dick.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Funny, now they are going after Peyton Manning because some whore went down on him, had a shit career and now blames him for her inability to perform as an athlete.

[–]skoobled 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not, though, is it. Feminised culture can't understand the fact that for a man sex can just be sex, because for a woman sex is almost never just sex. A man can meet a woman, fuck her, and go back to loving a great woman, if he's lucky enough to have an actually great woman in his life. But for a woman, sexual infidelity is always the beginning of the end of whatever relationship she is in.

Perspective, perspective, perspective

[–]Spidertech500 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd also say he's kind of showing how men aren't infallible and are humans too. I'm not sure that's good, although, having said that, Women have their cake and eat it too, as men we should start doing that. Let people see us as infallible. Yes it makes our failures greater but we have a higher societal ranking and standard.

[–]explorer93 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Noob question but since everyone here is mostly educated.

Would a pre-nup prevent such significant losses in a divorce?

[–]1Paid_Internet_Troll 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Short answer: no.

A pre-nup can be tossed aside by a judge almost at whim.

[–]Limekill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes AND No.

Judges do have to consider them and give reasons why they don't agree with them, etc - but if you have kids and your rich the judge is going to hose you some what anyway. The only solution is not to have kids....

However the one good thing about Pre-nups is you can sue the solicitor who created it and get some Big $$$. And a big cheque from an insurance company can help you out.

[–]Brewjo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Popp's got you covered.

[–]TekkomanKingz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They want the Alpha Male but don't want the promiscuity that comes with the territory of high testosterone.

[–]iRonP8triot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think Bill is genius (and he is), check out clips of Patrice O'Neal on YouTube talking on Opie and Anthony. That guy had women figured out to a T

[–]ktchong 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Here is another exhibit: Elon Musk. Apparently everyone thinks Elon Musk is the bad guy and his ex-wife Justine is the victim because Justine has been spending all her time online badmouthing him.

Her ex-wife's side of the story: http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/advice/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/

His side of the story: http://www.businessinsider.com/correcting-the-record-about-my-divorce-2010-7

So his wife turned 40 and then suddenly demanded an "equal partnership" - i.e., stakes in his companies, Tesla and SpaceX. The next day he quickly and smartly dumped the gold-digging wife and then hooked up with a 22-year-old model/actress who was hotter and a virgin. Good for him, I say. That is the whole point of being successful.

The morning Elon filed for divorce, he cut off Justine's credit card. She continued blogging and fought for more money in their divorce settlement. Elon didn't have any liquid assets at the time but she ended up with $2 million in cash, $80,000 a month in alimony, child support for seventeen years and a coveted Tesla roadster

Like a boss.

[–]boogalooshrimp1103 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i thought i read he got back with the ex wife somewhere.

[–]ktchong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Elon Musk's first wife was Justine Musk, whom he married in 2000 and divorced in 2008. He filed for the divorce.

Elon married his second wife Talulah Riley in 2010, and divorced Talulah in 2012. Again, he filed for the divorce.

Then he reconciled with Talulah, and he withdrew the divorce paper in 2013.

[–]KumonRoguing 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Bill Burr is a infinite well of red pill truth. Pick up his podcast some time.

[–]PetrolFlavored 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plot twist: Bill Burr got married...

[–]RealRational 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Other comedians to check out.

Dave Chapelle, Chris Rock, Patrice O'neal.

[–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Arnie fucked the babysitter? The things I miss not following the news.

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