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Red Pill ExampleRonda Rousey admits to having suicidal thoughts, but then looked to her man and thought "I need to have his babies. I need to stay alive." You just can't make up how true TRP is (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by ItIsMyPrivilege

This is going to be super short:

TLDR: Ronda Rouse talks on Ellen about how she had suicidal thoughts after losing to Holly, says she shook it off. Specifically mentions her man Travis and how she needs to stay alive to have his babies.

Body:

"I was literally sitting there and thinking about killing myself and that exact second I’m like ‘I’m nothing, what do I do anymore and no one gives a s--t about me anymore without this.’

[...]

To be honest I looked up and I saw my man Travis was standing up there and I looked up at him and I was like, I need to have his babies. I need to stay alive."

Lessons Learned:

Ideas here on the red pill are true. A professional woman's fighter still wants to procreate and stay alive because of a man.

Don't ever believe the "strong independent womanZ" is anything but third wave feminism lies. There are none.


[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 424 points425 points  (53 children)

Never make the mistake of assuming any sentiment you see expressed on television is necessarily real.

Ronda was a creation of the UFC marketing machine from day one. They wanted more pink dollars, so they needed a female star who had real "star power" (that ability to draw attention). Someone who would draw female viewers without alienating the male ones.

So they took the best fighter from a very small talent pool, hyped her up as some invincible superstar who could leap tall buildings and wrestle men, had her talk about "do nothing bitches", but very breezily dismiss any attempts by feminist-leaning interviewers to turn her into a "grrrrrrrrrl power" phenomenon. Walk a fine line... because they want to draw the "grrrrl power" types (the only women who actually give a fuck about MMA) without pissing off their young male base.

Have her fight a series of propped-up nothings, and hype them up like it's a real fight.

And it worked. She outsold the men.

Until she met a real challenger, someone who could actually hit her hard enough to hurt. And down she goes.

So, they're mostly okay... after all, they can run Holly as their new draw. But what about their investment in Ronda?

Well, they still have a way to see some value out of that. Gotta make a new story, though. "Invincible super-athlete who could kick Floyd Mayweather's butt" isn't going to fly any more. They need a new angle.

And it looks like the new angle they have chosen is the "comeback kid" redemption story. So she vanishes for a while, then makes an appearance to a show with an entirely female audience, talks about having sunk real low.

Now they've built a human angle, some drama to sell, something for her to "come back" from. The hope is that audiences will eat it up. If they don't, well, it didn't cost much.

[–]Battle-Scars 138 points139 points  (8 children)

Nice to see a spot on post from someone who understands business/promotion. The more drama you create, the higher the Gate. Appearantly it's working.

[–]babybopp 20 points21 points  (5 children)

To protect this investment they will most likely have her fight a weaker opponent. If she fights an equal or stronger opponent then there is the chance that she will lose. That will most guarantee the end of her career and a big dip in pink dollars. Females are not loyal enough to stick with a loser. They will move on to where the men are looking. Allegiance is highly versatile and will gladly abandon their own if their man chooses otherwise.

[–]1Snivellious 6 points7 points  (1 child)

It's looking like that's not the case this time. Rousey is already making noises about fighting the winner of Holm's next bout.

I think in this case, she's been hyped up so far that she can't fight a pushover and call it a comeback. She has to win a big fight and have her Rocky moment, and then she can go beat up on whatever punching bag they put in the ring with her. If she loses, she's probably done, and either faces a long road back to stardom or a pivot to some other way to make money.

[–]ragtagmofi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's already been guranteed a rematch, assuming Holm wins her next fight. She was guaranteed it the day after the fight. No one's going to pay to watch her in another easy fight now that we know there's good competition. The rematch is easy money for the ufc and Holm isn't really in the position to say no.

Iirc Ronda is taking a 6 month break to recover which is why holm has another fight in the meantime, but you will see the rematch eventually I promise. The rematch money is worth more than "protecting their investment" as you say, it will just shift the value toward the winner.

[–]destraht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem that I see with female fighters is that a normal one is particularly limited by hormones and other stuff. Lets call it physics. Her body could be doing more for less if she was less of a woman but still qualified as such. Also, this is obvious.

[–]1rife_omeqa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The only bad publicity is no publicity.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

people love a good. underdog story. they love when the big guy gets taken off there perch

[–]Steve_Wiener 12 points13 points  (0 children)

She's not gonna make a comeback on Holm.

She got thoroughly trounced by Holm. Embarrassed. Her stand up game was shit. She ate punches the whole first round and just stood there like she was "the thing" from the fantastic four. On top of that, Holm stopped all of her take down attempts and even took her down once. She is years behind Holm and there are other fighters who could have beat her as well, like cyborg (who she avoided fighting, btw).

She was all hype and i think she may have been set up as a gambling conspiracy.

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[–]I_HATE_GOLD_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm fairly certain that she was Travis Brownes side bitch and she was perfectly ok with that too.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (13 children)

That is a good theory but I wonder how correct it is. It seemed that her emotions were frank and not made up. She seemed to have lost her cool and started crying out of nowhere, later on she was so self absorbed that she hardly heard any word ellen said and kept going on and on. She had clearly lost her cool and was pretty absent minded from the situation and had no idea what was being said to her, for a while. I wonder if she could be that good of an actor to pull it off .

She later said she doesn't understand what is the purpose of her life is now etc. She felt like she doesn't know what she is meant for etc, and having kids and family would give her life a meaning and a sense of purpose. It seemed like an identity crisis or something.

[–]porkmaster 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Ronda always seemed pretty nutty even before she lost. People just didn't notice or ignored it. Now that she lost the aura of perfection, they're just looking for more flaws and seeing what was already there.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 35 points36 points  (1 child)

Women who like to fight weren't right in the head to begin with.

[–]UniversalFapture -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Maybe so. But I'd like to think it's more in the area with girls who like to lift...

Not ones who lift like we do. Ain't having shit

[–]VodkaTankerSpill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jumped off the TRT bandwagon too soon I think.

[–]scarfox1 3 points4 points  (5 children)

This is correct I believe, she was being vulnerable about her identity crisis. Then she half jokingly said she bounced back by wanting to have his babies, but more importantly her new identity was revenge and redemption... Which will fail too if you meditate and understand identity.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Which will fail too if you meditate and understand identity.

I see. Would you like to expand

[–]scarfox1 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Sure. At the core of most traditions which advocate meditation, is the insight that identity is empty (of real substance) and therefore a prime mover of suffering. Take for the example of Rousey, she said she saw her identity as an undefeated powerhouse ufc person, and that worked for her in such a transitory way that once that identity was found to be an illusion, suicide was on the horizon.

Now what happens if she puts her identity into 'a person that overcomes, gets revenge, comes back stronger etc...' and doesn't? If she loses this is just another (false identity) that fails her and puts her back into immense inner turmoil where she contemplates suicide.

Edit: Just to make things clear, that identity falls away and is seen for what it is in experienced meditators, however it won't be if someone sees themselves as a meditator or anything else for that matter other than the current experiencing-awareness.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I see. That seems very interesting. And took me a while to grasp, and the fact that English is second language didn't help much.

As far as as I have understood, it is something like this :

Many schools of meditation believe that a person's identity is empty, but when one believes it is something other than empty their belief of existence of this identity becomes a prime mover (cause) of suffering. Am I being correct?

And for the later part, even a meditator cannot see themselves as meditator, or anything except, just a being experiencing awareness?

[–]scarfox1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1)Mostly correct except there is no belief, its seen experientially that identity is empty. It's not about belief but about a seeing that occurs meditatively.

2)If you are emptiness-awareness, you don't need to see yourself as that, since you are the seeing itself- its self evident. The eye see itself by itself.

[–]cariboo_j 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for dropping some grade A Buddhist wisdom there guy

[–]fingerthemoon 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Holly Holm is a more level headed, intelligent fighter. Rhonda was emotionally off kilter throughout that entire fight and leading up to it. She wasn't using her head, just thinking her anger and determination would give her a win and she lost. Perfect example of how emotion can be a weakness.

Holm is also taller with more reach. And imo she is more attractive which means better genetics. Excellent fight. I have a feeling Holly Holm will be champ for awhile.

BTW, I'd totally smash that box if I could. I'd want to wait until I'm a little stronger though because she'd probably dominate me right now. But it would be fun fight fucking a hot woman you could just barely control. You could be really rough and not hurt her.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

And imo she is more attractive which means better genetics.

I have met paragons of physical fitness what were ugly AF; Genetics will let you have unattractive face if you can beat all the men and take all the women. Also, my military experinces has shown an inverse relationship with intelligence and shlonge size. The ASFAB waivers were all hung like horses.

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah your right. Now that I think about it some of the strongest guys I know are ugly fuckers. But there does seem to be a correlation between attractiveness and balance, finesse and intelligence, but not necessarily brute strength.

[–]ferengiprophet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Have her fight a series of propped-up nothings, and hype them up like it's a real fight.

They only did that for one fight and it was against Bethe Correia. Most of her other fights were legit though-- Miesha Tate, Cat Zingano, Alexis Davis, Sara McMann, etc.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Oh man, I remember that Ronda vs Mayweather shit.

People really thought they were at least equal fighters, as if they didn't even see the size difference between them.

[–]Moneyley 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Not a big Mayweather fan but he was once asked about comments that Ronda Rousey made about him... his response "I dont know who he is" (he did know but it was a funny ass response)

[–]BRENDORVEGAS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And they never took into account that Ronda has a poor striking game. Nor did they even bother to think that Mayweather is an elite boxer, whose sparring partners could work Ronda.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (13 children)

There is so much truth to this comment and it doe ls show the UFCs intentions. However you can't say that Rousey is not an elite athlete. She won gold and silver medals, a bronze in the olympics and she faced genuine and competent fighters like Meisha Tate, Sarah McCann and Cat Zingano. She has also fought and defeated other accomplished fighters and beat them easily, most of her wins were within seconds. I would compare her accomplishments to Royce Gracie. He seemed unbeatable when MMA and jiujitsu were not widely known. Then eventually they lose as the learning curve kicks in for other fighters over the next few years. Ronda was more dominant than Royce and beat her opponents with ease.

There has been times in the UFC that several fighters have seemed unbeatable. Tito Ortiz, Matt Hughes, Jon Jones and of course Anderson Silva. The UFC always plays that angle with their star fighters...they are unbeatable, who can stop this person, the best we have ever seen in the octogon. Rogan is a master of hyperbole and much of the public's perception of fighters comes from his over the top comments. Ronda being the greatest female athlete the world has ever seen etc.

The UFC also rides the wave of publicity and no doubt spends serious PR money to paint a picture. They did it with Brock Lesnar because he was the only person in the world apart from Mayweather who guaranteed PPV purchases above the million mark. Ronda is also an outspoken girl and she is no friend of feminists. She deftly responds to feminist trash talk and puts them down. You can tell she has not been coached, this is how she feels. I think Ronda is quite a lot like a red pill woman. Not withstanding my comments your analysis is correct on their marketing angle. I still think she beat quality competition and that there was and still is some substance to the Rousey hype train.

She made a fatal error against Holm which was the quintessential striker vs grappler scenario. She tried to strike with her. She should have gone the way that Chael Sonnen did against Anderson, go for constant take downs, do not engage in any stand up. Fight like she was inside a telephone box and not allow Holm the chance to load up on a strike. If she adopts that fight strategy second time around she will finish Holm in the first round. Ronda fell because she believed her own hype. Just like when Frank Shamrock fought Cung Le and thought he could strike with him, one beating and a broken arm later he learnt that he should stick to his knitting and grapple strikers.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 1 point2 points  (12 children)

Do you train in some kind of martial art yourself, or mostly just watch?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (11 children)

I did martial arts when I was younger. Focussing on my son's MMA training now. I am a huge MMA fan.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Okay, let me explain what you saw there, then.

In the past, you've seen Ronda pounce very quickly, get the fight to the floor, and finish it. Sometimes, repeated pounces were required, but always, they happened.

Here, you saw something different. Or, at least, that's what it looked like.

But the truth is, Ronda was doing the same thing. It looked different because of what Holly was doing. In this fight, Ronda was unable to just charge through that threat zone, the way she has in the past. She kept trying, and Holly made her eat fist every time.

Up against a striker with real power, you have to be able to play their game or you will not be able to close the distance without getting knocked down. And Ronda's punching game is crap. Just watch any video of her punching. Watch it in slo-mo. She raises her shoulders and flares her elbows out. Without having a credible counterthreat in her arsenal, she can't get through striking range reliably and in a good position.

Ronda had no answer to a skilled power hitter because she had never faced one.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Rousey believed her own hype and thought she could strike with her. I agree that she has never faced an elite striker like Holm, I also agree that Rousey's striking is very much a work in progress and she is not an effective striker yet. Rousey stood and traded with her, she actually threw more strikes (69) than Holm (53) but landed far less than Holm did. On top of that Holly's strikes were accuraate and powerful, she caught her early and out struck her the whole fight.

She only went for a single take down attempt. Compare that with Chael Sonnen when he fights. Rousey is a Judo practitioner, she should have either been in the clinch or trying to clinch up the whole fight yet in two rounds she spends 98% of the time striking. I know exactly what at I saw. I saw Rousey attempt to strike with someone who is leagues ahead of her. It was like an amateur striker versus a world champion. It was an idiotic fight strategy. If Rousey comes out in the next fight and sticks to Holm like glue and does not throw a single strike, except from a dominant ground position, then she will win. I am willing to bet that the bookmakers will have Rousey as a shorter favourite next time they fight and I would put my money on Rousey.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Rousey is a Judo practitioner, she should have either been in the clinch or trying to clinch up the whole fight yet in two rounds she spends 98% of the time striking... I saw Rousey attempt to strike with someone who is leagues ahead of her.

Like women who say "If a man bothers me, I'll just kick him in the balls"... you are mistaking a win condition for a strategy.

If you can successfully land a kick on the family jewels, you've won the fight.

Similarly, if you can successfully control the range, you have won the fight. That's not strategy, that's a goal. Strategy is how you plan to do that. If your strategy to control the distance is "just control the distance", then you have no strategy, and you're going to get clobbered.

Ronda had a strategy for controlling the distance. It was shut down so fast, over and over again, that it was invisible to you. But a trained fighter can see it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

This is just word games. Nothing you have said alters my opinion. Trying to dis me by saying "a trained fighter would spot that but it is invisible to you" is an ad hominem feminist style argument. I am an expert on MMA so I know what I am watching. Lets just agree to disagree

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 2 points3 points  (6 children)

You have that backwards.

Ad hominem is the fallacy of attempting to discredit a logical or empirical argument by pointing out a trait of the source. I concluded that you were not a trained fighter because of the conclusions you drew from watching that video.

Thus, using the argument to draw a conclusion about the person, not a conclusion about the person to analyze the argument.

Obviously, I'm not going to convince you. You believe that she suddenly decided to try and slug it out, instead of closing the distance. What I saw was Holly teaching a seminar on how to shut down the grappling game.

If there is a rematch (and I think there will be if Ronda doesn't retire, the female talent pool is too small to do otherwise), then I would expect Ronda to take striking defense much more seriously in training. There was nothing she could have done that day to win that fight. That fight was lost in training, weeks, months, and years before ring time.

But time spent fixing her weak points might change that. If Holly gets complacent (which I doubt).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes she should take striking defence seriously. You cannot be serious about taking your opponent down if you are throwing more strikes than they are. I still see this as a classic striker vs. grappler. Regarding strategy vs. goal. Well you cannot realise your goal if you have implemented a poor strategy. She tried to blitz Holm, got punished, continued trying to beat her with speed and striking, failed. Realised that she was in over her head, finally thought about getting it to the ground. Holm controlled range and continued to dominate with surgical striking precision. That is the way I see it.

You said she fought a series of propped up nothings. This is way off, notwithstanding the lack of depth in female MMA you could make a compelling argument that Rousey has faced a better standard of opponent than McGregor has. Apart from Mendes and Aldo he hasn't fought any serious fighters. Rousey walked through her opponents. Either way we both agree that it is part of the UFC hype machine. McGregor is the current poster child. We will see how great McGregor looks once Frankie Edgar or Dos Anjos gets to fight him. If he can beat either or both of those, then maybe I will buy into some of his hype.

We can revisit this discussion when the rematch is announced (I think Rousey will come back). I will have my money on Rousey.

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    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Told you, thats how you fight a striker

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The fights last weekend showed a lot about the sport. I knew that Holm and McGregor's management teams had taken a terrible risk with their stars. Meisha is a terrible match for Holly and Nate Diaz was just too big and experienced for McGregor. The managers should both be fired immediatly and they should go train with Greg Jackson or Matt Serra. The decision by their management teams to take those fights have cost them and their clients possibly 10-20 million dollars in short and long term earnings.

    Holm is a world class striker but you cannot learn enough grappling even in 5 years to compete consistently with high level and well rounded mixed martial artists. The era of the single style champion is over forever. Sure some single style fighters (Holly Holm, Royce Gracie, Mark Coleman, Steve Jennum -lol, that is a joke for hardcore fans) will get a title and hold it for a fight or two but only true mixed martial artists will take the belt, defend it and clean out the division (Jon Jones, GSP, Anderson Silva, Demetrious Johnson).

    The best part of the whole day was being at my local sports bar watching live. There are a lot of Irish backpackers who live in the area and there was about 50 of them all watching their hero. Me and my mates were all going for Diaz as we are long term fans and could see through the McGregor hype train. It was fun watching the Irish skulk out of the bar after their hero made possibly the quickest tap in UFC history after having a submission attempt applied. McGregor fear tapped and did not even attempt to break the hold, or hold on for a respectable few nanoseconds before tapping. (I am being hard on him though, no man on earth was getting out of that choke).

    The myth of the unbeatable fighter will persist in the minds of some fans and be a feature of marketing for a long time. Real fans know that there is no such thing as an unbeatable fighter. One mistake or one inspired move from your opponent and you are unconscious.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I am more of the opinion that the top level fights are choreographed

    [–]CQC3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    That's a great summary.

    I wonder how much of what she said is true, hope not much. Would be pretty pathetic to see someone who won so much, loses once badly and gets so discouraged to the point of suicide. That's how spoiled people act.

    [–]eccentricrealist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Forget the costs, they already profited. It's now about the opportunity cost of having her come back vs actually making a good female championship

    [–]Traz_Onmale -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    I'm wondering, in what way do you think these things would be different if promotion wasn't an issue?

    Would Ronda be less outspoken, acting less tough and more humble? Would she agree that she could never beat a man, even though they may want to organise a fight with one in the future? I find it hard to believe this is all a role.

    [–][deleted] 295 points296 points  (17 children)

    Going to borrow a 4chan comment here:

    Ronda Rousey literally got the Feminism kicked out of her.

    Who knew the cure for Feminism was a good beating?

    [–]Fuck_shadow_bans 53 points54 points  (4 children)

    Except that she was pretty anti-feminist, and after losing turned into the sad sack victim that feminists always wanted her to be. So more like she got it kicked into her tbh.

    [–]1grubek 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    True, and even after the beating her victim claims are very womanly, not feminist in nature.

    [–]TurduckenII 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Yeah but she lost to a woman. That's the thing about women's fighters, every time a woman loses, another woman wins. Why is it that everyone is talking about Ronda losing and nobody's paying attention to Holly's victory and now-championship?

    [–]southernmost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Once Holly defends her title, I think that'll change. Ronda defended her belt five times in spectacular fashion.

    [–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

    Ah...

    ...goddamnit, I laughed. +1 for the Patriarchy.

    [–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

    Pretty sure thats why we used to have "the rule of thumb".

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    This is so getting quoted outside this sub. Although most of them will be using it to point out how evil we are.

    [–]Lucifer_The_Unclean -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

    Like I said about that article where a liberal woman went hitchhiking across the middle east to prove Islam was a religion of peace. She got raped and murdered just 40 miles out. If that woman knew what actual rape was, not the diluted definition we know is as today, she would know what men are actually capable of without laws to keep us in check.

    [–][deleted] 134 points135 points  (20 children)

    She literally became a do nothing bitch. Instead of training (like holly homes) she's crying and looking for sympathy and valadation. I hope she gets her ass kicked again!

    [–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (2 children)

    Like they say die a hero or live long enough to become the villain. She has become everything she professed to hate.

    [–]Dualmilion 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    It happened within 2 fights too. The fight before she was humble while her opponent was big mouthing, taunting her, acting tough, just being a bitch. And rousey wins and everyone is like "yeah fuck that dumb bitch talking shit, got what she deserved"

    Then literally the next fight Ronda is doing the same thing. Talking shit, being overly cocky, taunting, wouldn't even touch gloves. AFAIK holms wasn't talking any shit and look what happens. Ronda gets ktfo. Everyone turns on her because she was being a cunty bitch.

    And her reaction is to cry and talk about how she was thinking of suicide. Smh

    [–]Tron10000 25 points26 points  (2 children)

    That's what she gets for thinking she's untouchable and having no class or respect for her opponents. You reap what you sow

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      [–]leinaD-Backwards 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It was more the no hand shakes and general lack of physical respect I think.

      [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (4 children)

      Shes never coming back bro. Bitch is going to retire and good riddance.

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

      Between the fight money and the endorsements, did she make any real money?

      I know girls athletes generally don't make anything, but I get the feeling she has some paper to show for her being a hype train locomotive.

      [–]eccentricrealist 26 points27 points  (1 child)

      She was the top earner for UFC for a while, so I think she made some good bank.

      [–]i_like_butt_grape 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Plus she was on several shows and a movies (Entourage).

      [–]RememberWhenEye 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      "The worst thing that can happen to a fighter....you got civilized "

      Mic from Rocky

      [–]Clarkelol 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Maybe do some research before making ignorant posts.

      There's not much she could do for the first 2-3 months post fight due to the concussion she received. More and more research is coming out highlighting the danger of receiving concussion twice within a 12-month period.

      .

      Her jaw was also injured pretty badly - so much so that she was consuming food through a straw for quite a while post-fight. She has herself commented that her jaw won't be able to take a hit for "3-6months".

      .

      She will get back to training slowly, when it's safe and appropriate to do so, and she will probably get her rematch with Holm.

      .

      Ronda's also probably earnt more money since the fight than you have in the past 5 years - so much for her becoming a "do nothing bitch".

      [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      She's the first woman to win by losing in the UFC

      [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 112 points113 points  (15 children)

      Just another proof that women are basically early teens in adult bodies.

      The second she looses a single fight after a very long winning streak, her world is shattered to pieces.

      [...]She bursts in tears, grabs her pillow and runs to her room, slamming the door and locking it behind her.

      Did Holly really take the crown this time? It can't be true. Afterall she's the special one. She has always taken it home. That's why she deserves it!

      She throws herself on the bed, crying out loud. "I hate you all! It was my crown! Mine! I wanted it. It's not fair!"

      Thoughts of suicide cross her mind. That will show them! When she's dead, everybody will regret that they made her feel like this, and they will all turn on that bitch Holly and they will hate her for pushing her to kill herself.

      Then her eyes cross her opened diary and she sees the drawing she made. "Travis & Ronda 4eva!" is written on the banderole that wraps around two hearts.

      No. She cannot give up. Not now! She cannot leave him alone. They are meant for each other. One day she has to bear his children.

      She reaches for her phone and dials his number. She needs to talk to him. He will comfort her. He's her rock.[...]

      Oh. By the way. Did you see that special on Brazilian TV? That one with the Brazilian pendant to Opera? Where Aldo was in tears, telling the host about how he wanted to kill himself, after he broke the record for shortest amount of time of being ko'ed, in a fight which was built up for months by the UFC?

      No? That's probably because it didn't happen.

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        [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 1 point2 points  (8 children)

        McGregor x Diaz has been confirmed several hours ago. There is also a picture available of RDA's foot. Just look in r.mma.

        I personally believe that this is even the more profitable option for the UFC since everybody wants to see those two smacktalk each other. It's going to be hilarious.

        I am really looking forward to the weigh in. Diaz might actually really try to hit McGregor if he's trying to pull off his usual show.

        Relevant.

        Edit: They'll be fighting at 170 btw.

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          [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 1 point2 points  (6 children)

          Diaz offered 165, but Conor told him to get comfortable at 170. I assume that Conor and Diaz are around the same weight now. Conor didn't get to cutting water yet and 15 pnd. isn't really unusual.

          This fight really has some potential. Conor's left is very dangerous, but the Diaz bros can really take some serious hits. Also Diaz is a southpaw like McGregor. Another variable for surprises.

          This is really a win for everybody in my opinion. The UFC, Diaz for sure, McGregor has got nothing to loose at all and the fans get an epic battle of the bigmouths, who also got something behind it.

          After all professional fighting is about entertainment.

          [–]Gogo4u 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Way hyped for this fight, although I really wish Diaz had a full camp (hell, half a camp) to get better prepared. Also because 10 days isn't nearly enough time for all the smack talk this match up is capable of

          [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Well. Just watched the press conference live and there where some highlights.

          My personal favourite was Diaz calling out McGregor for fighting in "Midget Division" and being all pumped just because he ko'ed three midgets "while I have been fighting adults for 10-12 years now".

          I also liked that you could tell that Conor seems to genuinly like Nate.

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            [–]metalhead4 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            They'll book RDA VS CONOR for UFC 200 now. Dana's lickin his chops. That'll be the biggest card ever assembled. Fuckin 2 solid weeks of fights now fellas.

            [–]EmperorAurelius -1 points0 points  (1 child)

            But will the RDA matchup even matter if Diaz can somehow upset Connor?

            [–]metalhead4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            Well Diaz has a very low chance of beating Conor so yeah it will matter. RDA was always the tougher fight for Conor.

            [–]wanderer779 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

            I'm admittedly out of my depth here, but I've watched a few of McGregor's fights, and while he is fun to watch he seems like kind of a reckless fighter who is flirting with getting ko'd in about every exchange. I've seen him get tagged pretty good several times. He's got a good chin though.

            I think there's a good deal of hype going on with him as well. When I looked him up on youtube half the videos were of him doing unconventional gymnastics or capoeira type moves, or of him doing interviews talking about being a pioneer in the field of "movement" which seems to be the buzzword they've chosen for him.

            To me, basically it seems like he's an impulsive fighter who likes to throw unexpected punches from weird angles. That is fine but it's not like he's the first one to try that style. Still fun to watch though.

            [–]metalhead4 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            The Celtic cross. That's his weapon. Precision. Movement. Dude is really in a league of his own when it comes to elusiveness and big powerful strikes. Kind of like Machida in his prime when he won the belt.

            [–]wanderer779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I can't tell if you were making a joke about my original comment. If not, this is exactly what I mean. It's so buzzordy. Precision, movement, what does that mean? It's not like everyone else is just lumbering around like a zombie, swinging aimlessly in the general direction of their opponent. Everyone uses movement. All these guys are precise. And as far as the "celtic cross", yes he throws a cross and so does everyone else who has ever boxed.

            He is always moving, but the question is whether that movement is keeping him from being hit? What I see is that while he is always moving, his guard is open and he's getting tagged.

            This kind of reminds me of Pacquiao, he's talented and is able to punch from weird angles and land shots on your chin. That takes a lot of talent. But he leaves himself open and he is going to get tagged. Of course you can say that about anyone, as everyone is going to get hit, but guys with a style like that are more susceptible.

            Hopefully someone out there is studying McGregor's movement and looking for his openings and is going to catch him and put an end to all this. Then we can talk about the guy like anyone else, as a fighter with strengths and weaknesses, instead of building him up into some fighting god the likes of which has never been seen.

            This is what they always do. A guy is a good fighter and they try to turn him into some msytical god of fighting. Then he gets beat and everyone decides he sucked.

            There are some guys who really are at the level the UFC wishes all their stars were at, but they are rare. Roy Jones was nearly unhittable and much faster and more powerful than anyone he faced. Anderson Silva is probably in that other-worldly category, Muhammed Ali too. There are probably like 20 or so guys in this elite category in all boxing history. Now UFC comes along and they act like they can pump out a new one every week. It's fine, they are trying to make money, but don't be the guy who keeps falling for it over and over. And maybe you aren't in that category. But if you are you should recognize you're being played.

            Sorry for the rant.

            [–]Gogo4u -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            Imo he's the most overhyped (male) fighter since Brock Lesnar. He's been spoon fed match ups that play right into his fight style.

            [–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 34 points35 points  (5 children)

            This must have been awkward for Ellen

            [–][deleted] 86 points87 points  (4 children)

            Ellen Degenerateness is basically a beta male, a super low testosterone man.

            Apparently she has a clit the size of a girls thumb, so its likely she does have pretty high T for a girl.

            Once you think of her as a low T male she is a lot more entertaining.

            *EDIT "Degenerateness" was auto correct, but I am going to let it stand.

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              [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

              Degenerateness

              Jesus fucking Christ I love this sub.

              [–]WhySoRuff 38 points39 points  (5 children)

              Man that interview stunk of game.

              She played her shitty hand as best as she could and painted herself as the victim.

              I was literally sitting there and thinking about killing myself and that exact second I’m like ‘I’m nothing, what do I do anymore and no one gives a s--t about me anymore without this.

              "Please America, I don't want to be a bad ass anymore. The fun times were amazing but now that I've been knocked off the pedestal I've considered ending it all. After all, I am just a woman."

              Can anyone gain sympathy as quickly as an attractive woman tugging on peoples emotional strings?

              To be honest I looked up and I saw my man Travis was standing up there and I looked up at him and I was like, I need to have his babies. I need to stay alive.

              "Please America, love me again for I conquered the career path and now I want to have babies. I'm proof you can do both and for that I deserve your love."

              The two red pill truths I see here are:

              1. A woman's last line of defense/fallback plan is: being a woman.
              2. GAME.

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                [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                Her on jimmy fallon looked like they brought a crack whore from 1983 to 2015 and put her hair in a ponytail

                [–]fingerthemoon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                The strongest most badass woman in the world, when it's all said and done, is still a woman - AWALT.

                If all else fails she can find purpose and value/validation in the reproductive capacity of her womb. Men don't have that backup plan. When we fail we're disregarded and forgotten.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Yeah. I have to agree. It's an insult to anyone who's seriously had depression and not just crying their eyes out for a couple days like this bitch.

                [–]RichieFinn 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                Ronda was always a bit mentally damaged, the UFC just presented her as untouchable, shes not fully to blame for her being perceived like that.

                Although being a bit of a mouthy cunt didnt help.

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                [–]matacks970 25 points26 points  (2 children)

                Bruh.. Are you watching Ellen?

                [–]Mildly_Sociopathic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                It was trending on YouTube.

                [–]Rougepellet 15 points16 points  (1 child)

                Psh, overrated shit she was. Badass? Losses once and becomes suicidal, some badass. If she was a man she'd be laughed at and ignored. Maybe even encouraged to end her life. Cause she's a woman though she's a fragile snowflake suddenly. So much for strong and independent

                [–]1Jaereth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                The "Strong independent women" as described by the media are also the biggest trainwrecks and usually pretty sad stories if you get to know them.

                Traditional values women all the way. Imagine that, the term "slut" is derogatory not because of some secret brotherhood of men trying to keep women down. No, maybe it's just because throughout history the sluttiest women time and time again proved to be the worst partners...

                [–]LukesLikeIt 18 points19 points  (18 children)

                The hate Rousey got annoyed me personally. She was a great fighter with good drive. She catapulted women's fighting into the spotlight and has done nothing but good for her sport. On top of which so many people inflated her ego and sang her praises over and over again. What did people think was going to happen? She got cocky and believed the hype. I'd say 99.9% of peoples egos would grow out of control in the same situation. She doesn't deserve hate.

                [–]Polaris382 31 points32 points  (14 children)

                When you are a woman who was beating mostly low quality "competitors" and then making ridiculous claims like being able to beat elite men (ie Mayweather and Cain Velasquez) along with a bunch of other shenanigans...its kind of understandable why people "hate" her.

                [–]marplaneit 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                This, She was beating untrained unskilled girls, and then acting tough on elite males fighters. She derserves all the hate.

                [–]LukesLikeIt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                I understand what you mean but I'm saying it's somewhat unfair because she was led to believe that she could do crazy things. It would take amazing mental fortitude to just ignore what millions of other people say.

                [–]sweetleef 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                I agree, but the bashers are justified - she is a great athlete and she has put in the work, but as you say she lost her head. She got arrogant and disrespectful. The hate, and maybe her loss, are the price of hubris.

                The interesting part is how she reacts now - either she feeds on the hate and comes back stronger, or like most, never recovers.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                When youve got that much money riding on you, you dont be cocky about it.

                Her smugness and lack of any sense of decorum in general led to people hating her.

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                [–]ABProsper 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                I watched her with the boyfriend ,probably soon to be spouse Travis Browne She was holding his hand, walking behind him looks downright submissive.

                Says something good about him at any rate. That is alpha right there.

                [–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

                Although, his ex-wife tho. Way hotter than Ronda, IMO - no disrespect to Ronda. She aight, in my book.

                [–]Nikelu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                [–]TheMGhandi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                If a fighter loses a fight they say they will go back to the drawing board. Men add that they want to "spend time with the family" aka I got my ass beat and need to feel good again and women (Ronda in this case) said she wants to have her man's babies. Edit : This is a natural part of fighting.

                But when you read the comments, they're all judgmental. I mean come on, none of us here trained 3 months and were undefeated for years, to have it all taken away in the most brutal manner ever with the whole world laughing at you. If she was a no-name fighter, huge chance she'd quit after that KO. You guys need to quit calling her a bitch when she can rape you in front of your woman and nobody can do a thing about it.

                [–]ben0wn4g3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                This shit is scripted you douche bags

                [–]VodkaTankerSpill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Keep in mind people like her take testosterone when prepping for fights. I think for holly fight she jumped off the cycle really abrupt and it really fucked with her mental state. Females are already neurotic as it is, introducing wild hormone fluctuations amplifies this.

                [–]NUMBER327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                If a girl talked like that about me, especially on the news, I would run so fucking fast.

                That sentence smells like "crazy girlfriend" in many levels.

                [–]MajorStyles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                She was supposed to be the physical emodiment of all these Female Warrior Princess characters. Seriously, Hollywood feminism had so much stock in her it was dusgusting.

                And then she goes to a female talk show and starts weeping. Just like...NO MALE BOXER EVER!

                I don't really blame her as much as I do the machine of lies behind her.

                [–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                she looses ONE fight and wants to kill herself? i think it's time she has a careers change. kind of like amy schumer.

                [–]ArkAngelEV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                another example of a strong independent woman throwing a tantrum because things didn't go her way and getting dramatic afterwards? Color me surprised

                [–]Themooseconnection -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                She takes herself way too seriously. She fights in a cage for pent up betas to fawn over. It's not like she's curing cancer or anything

                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                A nihilistic "there's no point to it" argument can be made about anything though, lets not let this devolve into that.

                [–]bigmfkr -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

                Why don't we start looking for RP proofs in Jersey Shore?

                Quit watching the fucking TV!

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                LIFT, MAINTAIN FRAME, LIFT, FUCK BITCHES... THIS SHOULD BE YOUR LIFE

                Lol are you for real man? Give me a break. People can watch a little tv every day if they want and STILL go to the gym and work toward a better future for yourself.

                [–]spassa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                still no reason to seek trp truth in scripted shit and bothering us with it.

                [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                Lmao I remember when people were saying that Rousey could go against MEN in the cage. I laughed so hard at that. I guarantee you a mediocre male fighter could whoo her ass. She couldn't even handle one loss? She fell prey to her own hype. People were telling her that she was She-Woman and could do no wrong.

                [–]TopKekSkye -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                not saying "strong independent wymxn"

                [–]Crotch_Snorkel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                "No one gives a shit about me anymore without this"... Translates to "I have no real self value and gain all of my validation through external sources." Ronda Rousey is not someone I would want my daughter to look up to. The whole "poor me" shit drives me nuts. This woman who is booked as someone who could ACTUALLY beat a Floyd (of whom I don't care for anyway) loses one match and wants to off herself? Now did she really want to kill herself, or is this just like when a woman claims she was raped because she regrettably fucked the wrong person and needs public sympathy to feel like she matters? She made her bed, and Holly buried her in it... Fuck Ronda Rousey

                [–]ghebert001 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                Shower Thought: women only want babies as a means to secure resources from a man for themselves. A man's status is in how many resources he can acquire while a woman's is based on how she can gain access to those resources with the least amount of work possible (i.e. spreading her legs vs working her ass off).

                [–]GOATmar -1 points0 points  (2 children)

                Goddamn that bitch got humbled AS FUCK. You would NEVER hear her talking about having babies for real (unless it was with Super Alpha Fedor the GOAT of MMA), it was always "stay at home moms and traditional women are DO NUFFIN BITCHES! I AM SO STRONG U GO GRRL"

                Tough girl turned mommy quick as hell.

                If she would have won, she would not consider even being serious with Travis Browne for more than a month (see her & Schaub's relationship, another UFC HW) because she would still be high as shit from the fame and "position" so to speak - in fact, would probably trade up Travis for someone on her level of fame/power, like another high-earning champ, probably McGregor. Hypergamy is a bitch.

                The only RP shit about this is that Ronda was a hard 5 who got treated like a 10 and she forgot her place. This is what glorifying feminism and masculinity in women gets you.

                [–]Neverd0wn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                What world do you live in that Ronda is a 5 :o woop

                [–]GOATmar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                wtf?

                She's massive. BMI/muscles too big for a 5'7" woman.

                Her waist-hip ratio is that of a bus. Probably a 0.80... terrible.

                Her face is ugly as Brock Lesnar without makeup (look up her Judo competitions...)

                Overtly masculine

                has ugly friends

                victim of at least ONE pump & dump

                etc etc etc

                Ronda is not hot whatsoever. In fact, no woman on the planet weighing more than 165lbs - 170lbs (her walkaround weight) is attractive.

                [–]theecozoic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                I think it's easy to mistake the concept of "strong, independent woman" with this morphed concept of "woman that's disregarded her own sexuality to aspire to be a man."

                It's natural for women to want to make babies. I don't understand your point.

                [–]B_Campbell -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                I think the Red Pill knowledge to take away from here is women are crazy.

                [–]dbomb2206 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                That also might of been her way to get back at Travis's ex who released a statement on her loss right after the fight taking a shot at her and Travis domestic abuse history. Real bitter hamster stuff.

                [–]thefisherman1961 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                Rhonda Rousey is having suicidal thoughts because she gets a concussion every time she steps in the ring

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy

                [–]Clarkelol -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

                Can I ask for your conclusive evidence that there is literally no "strong, independent woman"?

                .

                Not sure how you can derive that from one woman having an existential crisis after losing?

                [–]Lord_shitmeister -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

                There's a lot of cognitive filtering between her actual feelings and your interpretation of what was written about what was said by her about it EVEN IF this isn't some marketing ploy/comeback kid.

                [–]Mouse_trap1 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

                If she were a man, she'd have gone through with it.