Red Pill TheoryWhy Young Men Struggle: A Deep Dive into a Pathological System and Blue Pill Brainwashing (self.TheRedPill)

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Puberty (i.e. sexual maturity) "happens between ages 10 and 14 for girls and ages 12 and 16 for boys." (1)

Boys also lag behind girls in the development of attention, language, and fine-motor skills. Bloomberg writes, "Boys typically develop fine-motor skills up to six years later than girls. And in the early years, boys tend to be unfairly compared with girls on that score." (2)

School is a feminine space. The National Education Association reports that men comprise 10% of elementary and 25% of middle school teachers nationwide. This number has steadily decreased since the 1970s, and is worth reflecting on before blindly dropping your boy off at public school.

Classrooms are lead by women and are designed to reward skills that girls develop at a much earlier age than boys. So is it any wonder that many boys get frustrated and start to underperform? I don't mean to propagate a victim-mentality here, but the numbers speak for themselves: women outperform men at every level of the education system. Not to mention:

"By the time they reach high school, nearly 20 percent of all American boys will be diagnosed with ADHD. Millions of those boys will be prescribed a powerful stimulant to 'normalize' them. A great many of those boys will suffer serious side effects from those drugs." (3)

This is outrageous. They are drugging us, Brave New World style. There is no way in hell 1/5th of the entire male population has this one mental disorder (and at 3 times the rate of women.) Sorry to sound alarmist, but I've been through the whole system, and they are simply drugging boys who can't sit still (behavioral psychologists wrote this was coming in the late 60s.)

We have scores of educational researchers of both genders saying that boys are falling behind in school. And the numbers show it: female undergraduates now outnumber male undergrads by 2 million people (56% to 44% respectively.) Where do those extra men go? Well, 93% of the nation's 2.2 million inmates are men...but I digress.

History of Public Education

OK, so your average young guy isn't going to wind up in jail, but given the above factors (developmental delay, nearly all female teachers, mass drugging, which leads to frustration and underperformance), even 'well-adjusted' young men will have a certain amount of psychic tension bubbling beneath the surface.

This tension would probably be there any ways, even without gender disparities in the classroom. People need to understand that the current system was developed in the early 20th century to train industrial workers as farming families moved to urban centers en masse. The system is not designed for your personal enlightenment or intellectual enrichment. This fact is extensively documented if you do some research.

You probably learned about Horace Mann (1785-1859) in history class; he was head of the Massachusetts State Board of Education and a Congressman who, more than any one else, was responsible for bringing universal public education to the United States. This development is often cited as a great advance in liberty and equality, but let's check the history. Wikipedia tells us:

American educators were fascinated by Prussian education trends...In 1843, Horace Mann traveled to Germany to investigate how the educational process worked. Upon his return to the United States, he lobbied heavily to have the ‘Prussian model’ adopted. Mann’s proposal became popular in the Whig Party, and in 1852 Governor Edward Everett of Massachusetts instituted a mandatory education bill based on the Prussian system. New York State quickly followed suit, and the system spread around the country. (4)

Wait, so the great equalizing force of public education, seemingly as American as apple pie, is actually Prussian? That seems odd, since students of history know that Prussia was a Spartan-like war machine bent on conquest. So what, exactly, were Prussians taught, and why was the American government so eager to emulate their system?

Famed educational theorist Thomas Alexander wrote in 1919:

The Prussian is to a large measure enslaved through the medium of his school…his learning instead of making him his own master forges the chain by which he is held in servitude…the whole scheme of Prussian elementary education is shaped with the express purpose of making ninety five out of every hundred citizens subservient to the ruling house and to the state. (5)

It all becomes glaringly obvious once you start to catch on. Is school mainly about learning - about becoming a truly educated and critical thinking person? No, of course not. American schools are also where you play sports, meet girls, join after-school clubs, and first learn about social hierarchy. Good grades can get you into college, but so can athletics and money/connections. "High School" is basically a centralized youth center, overseen by the government, that ranks and sorts kids.

This might be necessary, and there's no conspiracy here. But you should know that this is a reality of living in a modern, technological superpower. The masses must be mobilized, people can't just learn whatever they want when they want (that's inefficient.)

Students subconsciously know they are in bondage. Thus, they must be divided and turned against each other at every turn. Cliques and strict hierarchies form, and drug use proliferates (all in a place associated with learning!) Legendary 3-time New York City teacher of the year John Taylor Gatto writes,

Slowly I began to realize that the bells and the confinement, the crazy sequences, the age-segregation, the lack of privacy, the constant surveillance, and all the rest of national curriculum of schooling were designed exactly as if someone had set out to prevent children from learning how to think and act, to coax them into addiction and dependent behavior.

He's right on. Age-segregation is totally arbitrary. In 6th grade I was an average, perhaps even slightly below average math/science student, but I read college-level books on History. During our Revolutionary War segment, (much to my embarrassment) my teacher would often ask me to confirm/clarify facts during her lessons. That class was a total waste of time for me, every single day.

The bells also prevent learning, and are reminiscent of Pavlov's techniques to condition dogs. It's been proven that you can't actually learn if you are constantly interrupted 40 minutes into your work. I see this at my office - our meetings our all staggered throughout Monday, and even though they are relatively quick, people often say they can't get any real work done until Tuesday. In general, though, I find working in an office much easier than at school, since the rest of the week you can sit down and focus all day, instead of being shuffled around like cattle.


The aforementioned gender imbalance in education combined with the pressure of industrial (some say "Postmodern," whatever) society embed a desire to rebel in the youth. "Rebellion" and the "teenage years" are now inextricably linked, but it's important to understand that this isn't a constant throughout history. The teenage years (i.e. artificially extended childhood) are really a modern creation. Historically in this country you would start apprenticing at a trade, or working on a farm, at a very young age. This gave young men a sense of purpose and connection with adults in their community (instead of seeing them as overlords to rebel against.) Guys, George Washington led the attack that started the French-Indian War when he was twenty-two years old (i.e. the prime frat-boy age.) There are many other examples, but basically men's development has been severely stunted.

Any ways, this urge to rebel needs to be channeled into something other than actually organizing and taking action. This is where popular culture/music steps in and acts as a pressure-release valve. Black kids say "fuck the system" while listening to Hip-Hop. White kids say "fuck the system" and listen to The Rolling Stones.

Most popular music promotes a lifestyle that is not only depraved, but also completely unattainable for 99% of listeners. It's another way to make you a passive spectator, thinking that you are rebelling while consuming a packaged product pushed by multinational corporations. Theodore Adorno writes,

"Something is provided for all so that none may escape... Everybody must behave (as if spontaneously) in accordance with his previously determined and indexed level, and choose the category of mass product turned out for his type. Consumers appear as statistics on research organisation charts, and are divided by income groups into red, green, and blue areas; the technique is that used for any type of propaganda." (6)

I am not trying to be a grumpy Puritan wagging my finger at pop music. But just understand that there is nothing rebellious about taking drugs and watching other people perform. This actually strengthens the system.

College Lifestyle

Filled with impressionable youth, funded by wealthy interests and tax-exempt foundations, and staffed by left-leaning intellectuals, the modern college is an interesting project in social engineering.

The function and purpose of the American university has shifted so substantially in the past 50-60 years it's hard to even know where to begin. I don't have time to get into its whole history, but were currently seeing an odd fusion of the lingering Hippie-era mythos (i.e. college is the 'best time of your life' because you can escape from your parents and party) merged with the realities of a less prosperous era (high levels of income inequality, 70% of students graduate in debt, more competitive job market, etc.) Globalist themes (my college called us "Global students"), social justice warriors, and a mental health crisis also underlay the modern college landscape.

A word about partying: it's OK in moderation, but young men would be advised to drop the mythology surrounding it. You will not become a rock star, you are not a rebel, and you are being fleeced and indebted. This mythos only became mainstream last generation, and represents a totally illusory path towards freedom.


This system is not well suited for your average guy. It's simply not going to teach you the skills you need to thrive. However, don't fall for illusory rebellious outlets like drugs and social justice crusades. Become self-sufficient, educate yourself, and if necessary reevaluate your values. You may find your 85 year old grandpa is actually right about a lot of things.

More on my blog


(1) https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/puberty.html

(2) http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2003-05-25/commentary-why-cant-we-let-boys-be-boys

(3) http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32858/drugging-of-the-american-boy-0414/

(4) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Mann

(5) The Prussian Elementary Schools by Thomas Alexander

(6) https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm

[–]Saiserit 207 points207 points [recovered]

Ok. Exactly ONE thing I love my parents for. Teachers recommended ADHD medications. Parents refused. I remember vividly, trying to go a single day without ending up in the kiddie equivalent of in-school suspension, isolated from other kids. In kindergarten, I'd think to myself: Today is the day, I'm going to be good and not end up there! Social workers showed up at my house. Told parents they'd consider legal processes to take me away if they didn't get me a psychiatrist and medications. My parents moved us out to the middle of nowhere with no jobs and no money. Bought a trailer on nothing but credit and 10% interest. I'll always love my parents for that if nothing else.

I was an outsider in that school. Most of my friends from back then are working in factories or in prison now. Raised myself by pretending I was a superhero in the woods, all alone. Now I do quite well for myself.

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[–]billcosbyeatsbabies 28 points29 points  (5 children)

oh my god. ritalin in kindergarten, fuck this is ridiculous. my mother did the same fucking thing to me in younger grades. i fucking despise this world. we must start a revolution.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Same here. I was part of that first wave when Ritalin was getting popular. My parents just blame it on the doctors.

[–]Saiserit 1 points1 points [recovered]

It was 1st grade for me. I have some more specific horror stories which are worse but I value my privacy.

[–]D4rkr4in 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every teacher was trying to ram Ritalin down my throat in elementary school, eventually started taking it late high school. Works well now, but I'm glad my parents didn't let me take it as a child

[–]muktheduck 6 points7 points  (4 children)

As a psychologist with a particular interest in pharmacology, I'm routinely distressed by how much professors and textbooks push the status quo as gospel when it comes to medicine and drugs. I'd say 95% of students come out of these fields with deeply ingrained ideas on medicating conditions without really having put much thought into the physiology of what these drugs are doing.

Quite frankly, I think the issue lies in how easy it is to sue for malpractice. Practitioners are heavily incentivized to prescribe the "go to" in just about every situation - it protects them from legal action. They can lose their entire careers and wind up in prison for attempting something novel...but simply throwing Ritalin or an SSRI at a patient will safeguard them from any blame

[–]CQC3 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It is a shame, but from my limited understanding I guess there's just too many legal pitfalls and too much money involved in the pharmaceutical business for it to be corrected there. There's so much money in it that very powerful people are going to protect their interests there.

The onus will have to be on the people to wise up and figure out some more sensible ways to decide when they do and do not need medication.

Depression is an interesting one. I can say for sure that I was near chronically depressed for about the majority of my adolescence for a number of factors. However, I was always confident that my depression stemmed from circumstance and if could ever fix the root of the problem it would be fine--and I did eventually toughen myself up.

Then there are people who have legitimate chemical imbalances. Now, that's a bitch. Did these sort of people always exist, but through science and technology we can now understand what the problem is, whereas before they were considered crazies?

[–]muktheduck 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'd tend to agree with you - the incentives are too great for the industry to solve these issues on their own. Of course, I think that's the case for any industry; they're going to do what consistently makes the most money until social change makes those habits unprofitable.

As for depression...I think we're seeing rising rates of it nowadays in part because of awareness. Perception undoubtedly affects the chemical composition of your brain - hence the placebo effect. In the past, a reasonable percentage of those who would be depressed perhaps avoided the condition due to the concept of "depression" not existing at that time. Now that we can convince ourselves that we're depressed, it's much easier to fall into that psychological and physiological rut.

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the past, a reasonable percentage of those who would be depressed perhaps avoided the condition due to the concept of "depression" not existing at that time. Now that we can convince ourselves that we're depressed, it's much easier to fall into that psychological and physiological rut.

this is a very good point -- far too many people use "anxiety and/or depression" as a 'one size fits all' excuse for their personal failings, (projecting their "moods" on the world) and many drs are prepared to agree to Rx something, often an SSRI type drug to 'keep their customers satisfied'

And the thing about SSRI's is they have 'low abuse potential' and are a bitch to stop taking, so most people don't. I reckon there are hundreds of thousands of people who have continuously been on some type of SSRI 'anti-depressant' since they first came out in the 1990's!

Talk about FUBAR

[–]TaeTaeDS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just curious. What do you think Ritalin, for example, is doing? Do you know what it does?

[–]trumpisafaggybeta 8 points9 points  (23 children)

It seems like a lot of cucks believe that drugs will solve all their problems. We're not at the level of medicine yet where we know how to manage side effects, fully understand drugs, etc. Most of the drugs on the market make it through the FDA and other checks through sheer influence as opposed to proper merits, unless they are outright harmful.

Case in point, unless it's something known to be easily treatable, rely more on self-discipline than medicine.

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[–]trumpisafaggybeta 5 points6 points  (7 children)

Pretty much. It's funny, I said this on my main many times and the cucks of reddit downvoted me for saying it.

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[–]trumpisafaggybeta 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Drugs, alcohol, weed, video games, junk food, porn, being loose as a woman-- all drugs that they rely on to escape their shitty lives. As long as you're not morbidly obese as a young woman in the west, these things aren't a death sentence. For a young man they're a recipe for disaster-- no one cares about men in the same way; we are disposable, sink or swim.

[–]RPmatrix 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Yes, it's pretty fucked up bro, but the average 10yo boy or girl has yet to go looking for something to fill the emptiness they feel inside until the social narrative they've been taught to believe turns out to be a load of bullshit and they find themselves lost for an alternative! Many turned to gaming first!

actually, as Marx said, and I agree "religion is the opium of the masses" -- God bothering in the US is the case in point!

To begin with, indoctrinate a young boy into believing they'll go blind if they touch their dicks and that they should worship the ground women walk on, whilst teaching the young girls to be 'pure and chaste' so they can"get a good man and marry him" so she can have sex breed. Lucky him, "happy wife, happpy life" hehe!

The myriad of perverse 'teachings' being spouted by self appointed 'appointees of gawd' to the young minds of kids who've been dumbed down by an 'educational system' (OP's comment about the Pavlovian nature of school is bang on, it's designed to teach the kids how to follow orders, 'jump' when the bell rings!) is frightening when you consider the Bullshit being fed to these kids! They make the Gospel according to Uncle Walt seem like respected scientific information!

The effect these legions of self-righteous ignorant 'christians', in the US is downright scary! The Westbro wackos were just one of the more vocal groups, whereas the Latter Day Saints aka Mormons are just as fucked up, but as it's been around much longer, it has the 'credibility' of familiarity, with most people thinking the guys in white shirts who knock on your door are harmless.

Not so. Those guys are fully brainwashed, damaged worse than by any drug! The 'average' Bishop is a dangerous guy! His priests are not far behind!

To think 'highly respected' and influential people are prominent members of the Church of Scientology blows my mind. I don't know why but most people in my country thing the Scientologists are a nut job wacko cult

No wonder the kids schkitz out and don't pay attention at school;

They intuitively know they're being told a load of shit and they want no part of it. And here's the rub. Talk about wanting to 'help young boys' in the US and there's the chance your ex will use it as "proof" you're a pedophile! You can talk about "helping the kids" BUT ffs don't lay a finger on them actually doing it! --- what I'm talking about is the ridiculous obsession with 'inappropriate touching' in the US, where giving a kid a pat on the head get can you charged with assault!

These problems start much earlier than school, and are reinforced by spineless conservative BP conformists. Fortunately not everyone lives in the US and "the lawd" isn't some 'gawd given right' to believe Bullshit and teach their kids the same!

That's the root of many of the problems, as these stunted kids grow up to be the Marco Rubio's of this world, while the atheist kid grew up to be another Trump

[–]cariboo_j 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Have you ever considered that spinning plates is the opiate of TRPers?

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hmmm, there's no doubt it can be addictive if you've got good Game ;D

[–]beginner_ 18 points19 points  (13 children)

It's easier to prescribe an anti-depressant than to teach someone to not be a depressed pussy all the time.

It's also easy to talk about something you have no clue about. Besides many people that take Prozac and don't actually need it, there in fact are people with real depression (or other mental illnesses) which is a real illness which can be measured just like cancer.

Ridiculing it and saying it's the persons own fault is ridiculous. Just like saying gay people should have stronger will and they would not be gay or lefties shouldn't be pussy and write with their right hand. Depression actually has a genetic component which makes it clear it's a physiological illness ("problem with the biochemistry"). In fact it's stupid to have this differentiation of "normal" illness and mental illness.

Stop fucking spreading idiotic myths. There are many new guys here and for some of them getting help and medication is the actually right thing to do. I did and the meds actually made me be able to go to the gym. The one I took does work and it's not just BS and a way to make money for big Pharma. So again to new guys, ignore the stupid stuff some say here. If you know you have serious issues, go get some help. It's not pussy to get help and it's not pussy to take meds you actually can benefit from. What is pussy is being a judgmental clueless bitch.

So shut the fuck and talk about stuff you actually have experience in.

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[–]RPmatrix 3 points4 points  (2 children)

you're both right, but SSRI type "anti-depressants" are IMO The most widely and inappropriately Rx'd drugs for a plethora of conditions, many of which they tend to make worse, but that's not what 'the literature' says and whilst many drs go by 'the literature' too many go on what the HB9 Pharma Co's rep sold told them.

[–]beginner_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

yeah don't disagree. I highly recommend to first try something else than an SSRI.

[–]RPmatrix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

magnesium supplemets, about 5-800mgs per day, the RDI is 450mgs p/d and most people are lucky of they get 150mgs

Magnesium acts directly on the brain and works fast too, you'll notice 800mgs in about an hour, if you're feeling anxioius or angry you'll find you've chilled out heaps an hour or so after taking it. I take 500mgs daily anyway, it's perfect for helping deal with modern urban stresses

[–]beginner_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

OK. We can agree that meds aren't magic pills.they are legal after all. they won't make you high like alcohol or drugs and the change is extremely slow and gradual. In my case really did take at least 3 month for a clear effect. Hope your psychiatrist did do this? And true, in the end it is still you that must lift your ass of the chair and walk to the gym. At least for me that hurdle was far lower than the one to start therapy.

We can also agree to do your own research and don't blindly trust your doctors. I've read about your problem too and insisted on a specific medication (not SSRI!) as these have many problematic side effects like loss of libido and weight gain. Pretty bad for self-improvement. My recommendation is to start with a different med.

If you have tried several meds of different classes and none work my suggestion would be to perform some literature research into psychedelics and their effects on depression. One dose of them can have a lasting positive effect for months. Note: Do the research, take at your own risk. I never did as legal meds worked but again did my research before taking meds.

[–]cariboo_j 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried ketamine after reading some research.

Holy crap that stuff works.

[–]Nicolay77 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Depression is a consequence of the education system, you can't pretend it will happen in a more sane environment with the same frequency.

Which is actually the whole point of this discussion.

[–]beginner_ 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Maybe it helps to lead up to it but it sure isn't the only and not the main component. Genetics play a huge role. And of course your parents, how you were raised. And last but not least your character eg. shy and low-confidence lead to greater risk for depression.

[–]Nicolay77 0 points1 point  (1 child)

And yet depression is substantially lower in the Latin American countries where families are big and more traditional.

[–]beginner_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or access to psychiatrist is more limited and even more stigmatized than here.

[–]GunPostal 49 points50 points  (4 children)

You should write a book about your life. No kidding.

[–]cheeky_throwaway101 77 points78 points  (1 child)

If he's got the attention span for it. /s

[–]aazav 16 points17 points  (7 children)

It wasn't until I got ADD/ADHD meds that I was able to control my lack of motivation and focus. After that, I was able to focus, was more driven, filed for and earned 7+ patents, brought my salary from low to 6 figs up to the top 3%. It's been a massive game changer on my end.

[–]billcosbyeatsbabies 2 points3 points  (2 children)

exactly. use it as a tool for getting what you want. decide yourself whether it's useful in a particular situation or not. don't just blindly follow someone else's word.

[–]aazav 1 point2 points  (1 child)

use it as a tool for getting what you want.

Yes, it's a tool. And it allowed me to become a weapon, an unfair advantage to my employers.

It's a brilliance switch and a mad delivery engine. It enables me to kick the ass I always wanted to and I use it for that.

Good Great observation.

[–]PetrolFlavored 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's the name of this med. again?

For a friend..

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Good to hear a counterbalance to the story, even if the claimed push to medicate everyone it to believe. I come from a country that is conservative in medicating people so don't have first hand knowledge of it.

[–]Imreallytrying 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What country or countries are very conservative in medicating?

[–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Simply put if you really want to be motivated, but just can't always switch into super awesome motivated mode, well, this is one way that it is possible. These don't work for everyone, but it has for me and I'm much farther along the path of being the person I want to be because of it.

[–]slow70 5 points6 points  (5 children)

I'm glad they looked out for you in that sense. There are many issues I have with my fundamentalist Baptist parents, but one that makes me seethe more than most is the two or so years in elementary school my father threw Ritalin at me. He was always pushing ADHD and Oppositional Defiance Disorder.

It stuck with me, being told that something was wrong. As I grew older as a teenager he would constantly make references to me possibly becoming bipolar, like my mother.

I'm long past the point of that genetic link ever showing, but I feared it for years.

Fuck parents who do that to kids.

[–]TaeTaeDS 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Bipolar is a mood disorder, as in you become manic and depressive in episodes. Nobody suggests that about a person if they really mean it and do nothing about it. It's not Borderline PD.

[–]slow70 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'm very familiar with bi-polar/manic depressive disorder. My mother has it. My father was the kind of prick to hold a grudge against her for something she couldn't change years after they split then imply that due to her genes, I might develop it too.

[–]TaeTaeDS 0 points1 point  (2 children)

So you would know, yno, if your teacher legitimately said that she has no idea what the disorder is because it's episodic, not like Schizophrenia or BPD where it's instant switching between.

[–]slow70 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My teacher? I don't think you've read what of typed. You seem to be going off your own script. Carry on.

[–]TaeTaeDS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dad then, doesn't change anything.

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Good on you my man, let's keep growing!

[–]traversecity 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My LTR (wife) and I planned this contingancy if our son became victimized by something like that. No way we could condone such an outrage.

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was in the exact same scenario in 3rd grade. Parents moved me out into bum fuck Egypt was the best thing that every happened to me. I use to hunt dinosaurs in the woods with the spear I crafted and charred from my pocket knife.

Being alone most of my childhood stunted me socially but the amount of time i was able to spend in my head and only able to figure stuff out on my own was well worth the social setback which of course I've been improving on since TRP.

On a personal level, did you or do you still feel slightly disconnected from your peers? I always find i relate to people 3-7 years older than me. I'd rather sit alone or work on myself/interests than spend it with my roommates who just bullshit and watch TV all day.

[–]Jarnskeggi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My mother tried to have me drugged. Thankfully she couldn't find a doctor to agree with her. I wasn't even half as active as other kids my age, she just wanted 100% compliance. Typical single mother.

[–]Baldr209 2 points2 points [recovered]

if you didn't have adhd then they should have gone to a psychiatrist just so the doc could say "no" and then go back to the school with a politely written letter from the doc saying that you were fine and that the teachers aren't goddamned psychiatrists.

[–]Ibex3D 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I'm a college student and I wanted adderall to abuse when I needed to study and xanax to abuse for fun and when I take acid.

"I have trouble focusing and getting my work done."

"Okay, I''l write you a Rx for adderall."

"Also I have trouble sleeping."

"No problem, I'll give you something for that too."

I had actual sleeping problems but got over them by working out and then I manipulated him into getting xanax. The xanax was actually a little bit of work but I literally told him I had trouble focusing and I had a prescription in about a minute. The doc is never gonna say no. Especially if the kid actually wont sit still and focus.

[–]Baldr209 2 points2 points [recovered]

you're telling me someone can go to a quack and get a prescription for whatever they want? get out of town.

[–]marplaneit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know, I have doctor Friends and I can get prescriptions from them for almost everything.

I get modafinil lol.

[–]shadowq8 1 point2 points  (2 children)

God bless your parents. Also that is beyond surreal how aggressively the system wants you on meds.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I'm not saying there aren't some legitimate uses for Ritalin.

But in this case, I think the system was trying to drug him, more so than medicate him.

[–]le0pardd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was also lucky. My parents (both med. Doctors) knew that there were long time studies showing investigating the long term effects, which were not looking good. They straight up just never let them test me, so there wouldn't even be a reason to drug me.

<rant> Also my old school straight up told me that i was too dumb for their school. They sent me to a psychiatrist to get me tested for iq. Came back being in the 98th percentile with the literal diagnosis: "Intelligent, but lazy".

After that the (female) head teacher would cite me to her office every fucking break to tell me how stupid I was(I answered by eating peperoni pizza with extra garlic in her office every day). They sent me to "tutoring"(more or less detention) wether or not i had homework until the evening(I just turned up 5 minutes before the official time was over). Got a formal fine(dont know how to translate it) for "not doing homework".

I had some neurotic(also female) teacher scream at me every single lesson for no reason(I just smiled at her and stayed calm) and had her favourite student(girl) "supervise" me. (strangely that girl was into me, but felt like i bullied her). I got another formal fine for "misbehaviour"

No one at my(also mostly female) class really noticed everything and were they were like "well, you must have done SOMETHING wrong!" and would avoid me at all costs.

(At this point I had already planned and partly prepared killing the 3 core people)

They were consistently giving me F's in all subjects, which magically improved when the knew I would move soon.

Then I moved, the head teacher had the audacity to cite me to her room one last time and tell me how she hopes the new school will be good for me and how she hopes I had a great time at her school and she hopes they have teached me good(again, unprecise translation). (I was seriously considering just stabbing her with her letter opener) I just told her watever.

Now at my current school techer look at me for confirmatoin. I normally am the one who get to answer when everyone else failed. Magically I still was not getting straight A's but only B+'s with the reasoning that i didnt look like I'd put in enough effort for them to be giving me an A but my participation and what I would say would be at A+ level(JUST GIVE ME A DAMN A THEN!). Last semester before A-levels I figured "what the hell.." and just told the teachers that I had put in a lot of effort that semester(i didn't). Suddently I'd get straight A's. Until a group of Girls went to complain how it was soooo unfair.

This education system really is fucking bullshit if you are not the average, well adjusted, attentive looking kid. I got fucked at every corner and still got through with good grades without even trying. In this system a C is the eqivalent of a goddamn participation trophy, yet a big portion of kids (guys and girls, but girls can get a good grade by just being there and not disrupting class) manage to barely get a D, because all they do is partying at night time and the sitting in the schools wasting tax money and oxygen at daytime... </rant>

[–]ToTheSummit 0 points1 point  (1 child)

you were homeschooled? or what happened?

[–]ChadThundercockII 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Bruuh, we need a full disclosure.

[–]RedPill_FightClub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your parents sound like solid, loving people. Your story is impressive and speaks a multitude to your parents' character and integrity.

[–]okkyle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, your comment hit me. That was my exact situation, except I was raised by a single mom.

We were poor coming up, and like most single moms, mine was always busy, and over-stressed. The weight of raising three boys without a husband made her emotionally distant. I remember how she always seemed to be in such a bad mood, cold, at times so anxious that she seemed on the verge of a breakdown. She did some many things wrong and it's easy for me to look back now and resent her for all of the AWALT moments, but the biggest thing she did right was that she kept me and my brothers off of ADHD meds despite my teachers' constant insistence.

My mom was a hippy spiritual new agey type, and she was vehemently against Pharma. Looking back now, I believe her refusal to medicate us was more about her own vanity and maintenance of her self-image as crusader against Big Pharma. Whatever the reason, I have to respect her for doing what she did, and I have just have nothing but distain for all the fat, lazy, government teachers who just want to drug young boys so they can leave at 3:30 everyday without having to do an honest days' work.

[–]fritopiefritolay 97 points98 points  (17 children)

On the note about college, I went to a fairly liberal college where I took this sociology class that seemed to make so much sense at the time but now I see it for what it actually was.

Having never been exposed to topics like "gender constructs" and feminism I thought these words were law coming from the professor who herself was a lesbian and feminist. Looking back that was some serious brainwashing and attempt to justify her lifestyle. Young men in college without exposure to strong, male role models will only continue to soak in all that propaganda.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta 42 points43 points  (4 children)

Back in college I was effectively forced to take a class on feminist theory, and reading the texts written by old hags and manginas was painful. It was amazing to see how indoctrinated, stupid, and petty everything that they wrote was. I nodded my head, played along with the dumb professor's notions and aced the class. She seriously thought that I was one of her best feminist students too, hahahhahahaha.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (3 children)

Anytime I had to write an essay for an english teacher, I would make shit up but use very vivid wordplay. They ate it up haha. Ironic they studied english for years but cannot detect bullshit.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Thats because your 'correct' opinion on something is more important than the logic.

[–]TheGillos 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Lol, reminds me of HS English. I was constantly getting 50s and 60s on reports because I tried to be original. We used a strict PPA style of report writing. Point, proof, analysis. My mistake was thinking if I had good, original, points and backed them up with proofs and analyses I would do well. Nope.

My friends all made fun of my grades. They were getting 80s and 90s. One assignment I took notes on every point, proof and analysis the teacher made in class, then regurgitated them on my report. Wow! I got 95% and a big green lettered congratulations from the teacher! I rubbed it in my friend's faces, then went back to getting 50s and 60s.

[–]1gerwig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. I would agonize over coming up with an original essay, later realizing that everyone else would just write what the teacher said in class. I had assumed I'd be accused of cheating if I did that.

[–]aazav 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Having never been exposed to topics like "gender constructs"

Gender constructs is such stupid faggotry that I can't even believe it fucking exists.

There are two genders. Male and female. If you've got the defective equipment or a set of both, you're a fucking genetic reject, not "a special flower."

Fucking idiots and their pre triggered feels.

[–]hhamama66 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Biology doesn't determine everything. Science was designed by the patriarchy. Not all of it is true. /s

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Language was designed by the partriarchy so /u/aazav and your point are sexist. We must revert back to primal body language to communicate our beliefs. Also eyes can cause triggers so we should get rid of those too.

[–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As soon as I figure out that the word, triggered, was created by a someone who was influenced by a male figure at some point in their life, I'm probably going to remove it from my vocabulary. But until then, my can't evens are literally oppressed and triggered at the same time.

Haha. Someone should seed the tumblrestrogenfags with the concept that the words triggered and oppressed are male creations.

Watch heads explode. Pass the popcorn. I want to see this.

[–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Science was designed by the patriarchy

ERMAGERD. I should be so triggered right now but I literally can't even.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Liberals are much more interested in control than liberalism. Fascism and progressivism have the same roots.

And the education system is the perfect delivery mechanism.

Cucked by busybody control freaks.

[–]aazav 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Liberals are much more interested in control than liberalism

As a Democrat, the last fucking thing I am is "liberal". If you give shit away to everyone, the people who get it have no respect for it since it is not earned. It's more an "I deserve this" mindset that's toxic of the voter. They want to ally with the bully and the people who will give them free stuff and think it's all deserved to them because whatever.

These terms used to describe Democrats and Republicans are pretty shitty. Meh, politics in the US blows donkey cock.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Agree with Democrats on social freedoms but disagree with giving away unearned shit? My friend, take a seat at the table of libertarianism.

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You mean everyone has an equal opportunity but is only entitled to what they earn?

fucking blasphemy. Burn the heretic.

[–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Nothing burns like an effigy!" - Lenny.

[–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I can't sit at the seat of no regulation either. I'll just keep walking around until I find the right table, or make my own table with blackjack and hookers.

[–]lakalahehe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been thinking that its a good thing that women discriminate against blue-pilled because blue-pilled men favor misandry/feminism or , in other words, are severely against our (men's) basic freedoms.

[–]Zunscriii 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Best post on trp in a long time.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

A great source of information on this topic is The War Against Boys: How Misguided Policies are Harming Our Young Men by Christina Hoff Summers. Some excerpts:

Although many educators recognize that boys have fallen far behind girls in school, few address the problem in a serious way. Schools that try to stop the trend, through boy-friendly pedagogy, literacy interventions, vocational training, or same-sex classes, are often thwarted. Women’s lobbying groups still call such projects evidence of a “backlash” against girls’ achievements and believe they are part of a campaign to slow further female progress.

This book explains how it became fashionable to pathologize the behavior of millions of healthy male children. We have turned against boys and forgotten a simple truth: the energy, competitiveness, and corporal daring of normal males are responsible for much of what is right in the world. No one denies that boys’ aggressive tendencies must be mitigated and channeled toward constructive ends. Boys need (and crave) discipline, respect, and moral guidance. Boys need love and tolerant understanding. But being a boy is not a social disease.

[–]ZuluAlphaCharlie 34 points35 points  (2 children)

mr.Trump i am afraid your son has a mental disorder.... hes too.... HIGH ENERGY

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Ohhhhh my 'The_Donald' spidey tense is tingling. MAGA

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did someone call for an energy dump?


[–]georgedonnelly 13 points14 points  (11 children)

Loved this post. Hard truth with references.

We need to watch out for the young men. They're getting hit harder. In my case, my son has never seen the insides of a school and likely never will. It's called unschooling.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (9 children)

how do you keep your son compatible with society as a whole without schooling him?

[–]billcosbyeatsbabies 3 points4 points  (0 children)

probably by enrolling him in local sports teams, volunteering for homeless shelters/food banks, introducing his son to his friends kids, joining like-minded organizations and groups such as communes, survivalists, mellow down to earth people, self-proclaimed rebels, etc.

[–]RPmatrix 2 points3 points  (2 children)


you can teach without a school/curricula

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It isn't about the curricula its about the papers you get from completing it.

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

he asked "how do you teach sans school?"

[–]georgedonnelly 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Why would he need to be "compatible with society as a whole"? I'm not even sure what you mean by that.

Society will need to be compatible with him. Because he's going to bring a ton of value.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I don't know that he'll bring a ton of value but I do know that he won't be able to get a job suitable for an American without a diploma.

[–]georgedonnelly 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Why would anyone want a job? Jobs are for suckers.

He wants a trade, a business, freelance skills, a vocation. But never a job. This isn't even something I had to teach him.

That said, unschooled kids can get GEDs and get into any college they are individually suitable for, including the Ivy League - if you think college is still worth it. I went to a top 5 US university and I have my doubts.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Businesses have one shot to succeed and most of them fail. Without that economic cushion you could be paying off the debt for years. A trade is something I would consider a job but good point.

[–]georgedonnelly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Businesses have one shot to succeed

Not true but even if it was, there is no limit on the number of businesses you can try.

There is no need to go into debt in order to start a business. I overinvested in my first one and still did it with just $400. My second cost $15 to start.

The trick is to always be investing in yourself.

A trade is a little more than a job because it's a skill that is in constant demand, or should be if you pick wisely. With unions and the ability to start your own business performing your trade, it opens up a lot of possibilities that aren't there for people who go the school-college-job route.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 46 points47 points  (1 child)

When we say:

"The Blue Pill emotional indoctrination process has the effect of suppressing consciousness."

...your post has filled that out and given it all the detail one might ever ask for.

School isn't there to make you wiser, it's there to dumb you down and make you a useful "tool" for your Game aware globalist overlords. Prepare to be used as a "tool".

As a kid we used to use the word "tool" as a slang.

It was an insult:

"Bobby you are a fucking tool."

...is how we might say it.

The Alpha uses "tools" by playing his own Game.

The person that gets played is a "tool".

And you can substitute "fool" very easily.


[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

American schooling trains us to buy the lies that society throws at us from every direction. I recently traveled out of the country for the first time and it made me realize how shitty the bubble I've been living in is. Yes, we are privileged to live a first world lifestyle and have unparalleled economic opportunity, but our culture is cold and basically dogshit.

[–]nice_guy_bot_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Canadian here: I feel the exact same way.

[–]CardinalGuitar 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That is why I liked Dead Poet Society so much, It was a fraternized group of boys who actually rebelled against the institution.

[–]Meto1183 9 points10 points  (1 child)

My grandpa told me he'll never care what my grades are-that my goal for college should be to get in, get out, and get a job. Emphasis on connections being more important with the degree being an entrance ticket.

Do you have a source for the 40 minute interruptions specifically? Google gave me a bunch of stuff that will probably mention but none were focused on it. Great write up.

[–]allSmallThings 40 points41 points  (32 children)

If you are going to discuss systemic anti-male issues, circumcision is worth discussing. Just like female genital mutilation, it deprives males of normal sexual function and pleasure, and also leaves trauma and psychological scars buried in the psyche. While the feminists have managed to ban FGM, MGM is still the norm in North America, and tolerated for religious reasons around the world, despite its demonstrated harm.

[–]CallMeQuinnie 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Can I get some links to it's "demonstrated harm." I've thought about the affects of circumcision before and how something like that could easily mess with a baby's mental health. Thanks.

[–]OlanValesco 6 points7 points  (1 child)



Circumcision performed during infancy disrupts the bonding process between child and mother. There are indications that the innate sense of trust in intimate human contact is inhibited or lost. It can also have significant adverse effects on neurological development. Additionally, an infant's self-confidence and hardiness is diminished by forcing the newborn victim into a defensive psychological state of "learned helplessness" or "acquired passivity" to cope with the excruciating pain which he canneither fight nor flee. The trauma of this early pain lowers a circumcised boy's pain threshold below that of intact boys and girls

[–]shadowq8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you for the non bias source /sarcasm

[–]Baldr209 22 points22 points [recovered]

you leaving out the part that the trauma and impairment of pleasure and function isn't just a consequence. it's the whole reason circumcision is done in the first place.

[–]billcosbyeatsbabies 3 points4 points  (0 children)

im glad my cock has that jiggly thing on the end of it. feels good man

[–]shadowq8 3 points4 points  (24 children)

Circumcised here what are you talking about I have enough pleasure

[–]Antinous 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Sorry to tell you this, but you could be getting more.

[–]1OneRedYear 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Can't miss what you don't have. Sounds like a bunch of MRA nitpicking whining to me.

[–]Antinous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Uh no. Circumcision is an extremely stupid, unethical, and unnecessary practice.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't do any good to cry about circumcision if you already have been, true, but you can be aware of why it's fucked and not do it to your sons.

[–]RPmatrix 2 points3 points  (8 children)

foreskins have shitloads of nerves in them, the very end bit in particular ... it's male genital mutilation bro!

[–]penis_butter_n_jelly 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Don't listen to these retards. Circumcision is dumb, but it's like getting your ear pieced.

[–]shadowq8 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I find it to be one of these debates that are pointless to argue about....

What was done was done

[–]Wraithwain -1 points0 points  (5 children)

I agree. I'm cut, and I get plenty of fun out of mine. What's all this hamstering about circumcision being bad?

[–]TheGillos 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Part of your cock got cut off. That's a bad thing.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's bad because your cutting of part of someones genitals without their consent. If someone want's to be circumcised that all good and fine, but circumcising a child who has no choice in the matter is wrong.

Honestly I wish I wasn't circumcised. If I had the choice today I would have said no.

[–]allSmallThings 4 points5 points  (0 children)

when you are young you probably won't notice that anything is "wrong". i never realized an issue until much later. but that is because we have no basis of comparison since we were maimed as infants.

the head of the penis wasn't designed to be exposed all the time, since it is a mucus membrane. not only do we have much less sensation during sex than men who are uncut - just ask men who have been cut as adults - but as we get older, the head of the penis "keratinizes" - forms an thicker layer of skin, like the soles of our feet.

the extra layer of tough skin on the head of the penis reduces sensation even more. so by the age of 40 or 50 years old, men who are cut are taking 5 times the number of ED/viagra pills as uncut men.

this isn't to mention the hundreds of baby boys who bleed to death every year from botched circumcisions, or the thousands who have a f-ed up cock because of a botched circumcision. the suffering that these men go though is heartbreaking (you can hear their stories and see pictures in the Survey of Circumcision Harm). we should protect ALL babies, male and female, and leave their bodies intact!

for a more complete answer, check out the links from above, http://www.norm.org/lost.html and http://www.foregen.org/circumcision_myths

[ed: add further info / clarity]

[–]soadaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here. Cut and never had an issue.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not hamstering to have a problem with cutting bits off baby dicks. It's no use crying about after it's happened to you, but you can help stop this bullshit tradition for your sons and eventually their sons.

[–]MakesYouFeelWeird- 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Damn that makes a lot of sense. Now I have to study other the other systems of education other country's have to see what is there for actual learning. This post is very interesting.

[–]aazav 5 points6 points  (2 children)

The bullshit starts with the Disney faggotry of, "you're special and everyone loves you just the way you are!"

That and instilling in little girls that they need to be princesses.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I refer to universities as "factories of liberal indoctrination" because that's exactly what they are now. Any dissent from popular opinion is seen as 'bigotry' and the university/ other students will go out of their way to fuck with dissenters.

[–]nice_guy_bot_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

All evidence points to a concerted effort by one special minority ethnic group using ethnic networking and nepotism to shape the social science departments in American universities - which then spread to other countries. This has nothing to do with "government control".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk for sure if it's gov't or special interest, but some group of people is controlling the hivemind of politcally correct movement- and it's disturbing to witness the results in person.

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[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (5 children)

There shouldn't be a single, monolithic "system." This set up only arose in the early 20th century when industrialists needed to assimilate millions of immigrants into America while also reorienting rural folks moving into the cities.

Forced national public education was very controversial when it was first introduced, and was heavily resisted in certain areas. It's not inevitable. We need a less centralized system, run by local school boards (not dictates from Washington), that focuses on education first and foremost. Youth sports should function on Europe's club model - then we don't have to exploit "student-athletes" in college and the student body in high school will be less divided between jocks, nerds, etc.

Allow kids to explore interests early on, and then focus on areas of interest. Stop making them learn a little bit of everything on a schedule of Pavlovian bells. Teach critical thinking - stop intertwining education and the state. That's called brainwashing.

[–]billcosbyeatsbabies 2 points3 points  (1 child)

there's a little cute school in my small BC town that does exactly this. all the kids who come out of it around grade 7 are always, 100% of the time, odd. not in a bad way, mind you, but noticeably odd to the point of being quite funny. i shouldn't laugh at them however, because they are living much healthier and mentally-unrestricted lives than most of us. they may be a little weird but they're happy and thats what matters.

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't you have Steiner Schools in the US?

the kids are given massive amounts of freedom and support

Steiner education provides enjoyable and relevant learning through deep engagement and creative endeavour, to develop ethical, capable individuals who can contribute to society with initiative and purpose.

but as you say, they're a 'bit odd, but not in a bad way'

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[–]deeman010 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Seems more efficient to have people brainwashed from birth than to have them learn this shit on their own. Whilst I don't personally subscribe to the common Catholic beliefs anymore, I do find it particularly effective at producing conscience driven people.

What's your stance on having people learn stuff rather than just teaching them and manipulating them from the onset to act/ behave a certain way?

[–]Troll_Name 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1: A basic bill of rights and set of national certification standards, other than that each school has its own "system."

2: Throw the scantron reader in the trash where it belongs. It facilitates cheating and impedes actual learning.

3: Start prosecuting corrupt officials. Most of the current problems would cease to exist if uppermost-leaders stopped getting away with things which are already illegal.

4: Skills, not scores. Make a catalogue of viable professional skills, and certify students at varying levels on a yes-or-no basis of whether they can handle a specific challenge within an acceptable margin of errors and problems. Professions are judged this way, and schools' purpose is preparing people for adult life.

5: Stop discriminating against men - this is the hard one. The bias of unconditional female innocence causes schools to install severely hazardous women out of a belief that guilt belongs exclusively to men.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The entire education process is beyond fucked. It goes far beyond indoctrination of ideas and attitudes; our education system has been designed to create people who are dependent, who have learned little of actual substance and thus need social programs, institutions, and continued expensive education to continue to function.

Societies used to want men; the idea was to create rites of passage where weak men / boys would fail and be eliminated from the society, and men would pass. This would create a society where everyone could depend on their fellow man for a set of basic traits - not afraid of combat, resourceful at survival in the wilderness, etc. You can look at any man in the tribe, and because he's made it through X and Y rites of passage, you know he's good for those skills at the very least.

Our society focused on creating dependent boys, who need more and more support, group-identity, and help processing reality. Instead of eliminating weakness, everyone passes and everyone gets a gold medal. The result is that you can reach age 18 in our society and be a neckbeard SJW piece of trash who spends all day on tumblr. You can reach 18 and have no skills besides information regurgitation and playing LoL and being a lardass.

There's nothing forcing boys to actually develop themselves mentally and physically. No challenge, just "get OK grades" which you can do with 2 brain cells. So any given 18 year old has basically no skills and no positive, hardship-forged traits.

The cream of the crop, the Palo Alto kids, I see these kids everyday. They go to tutoring & test prep companies, their parents hire people to help them get into top schools, their mother or nanny typically shuttles them from music lessons to tutoring to their BS "college application" activities. They have no idea how to solve problems on their own and go anything without the support of a group and community. They cannot "stand alone" in any way. They rely on communities - real or online - to tell them what to do, how to think, and where to go.

The bottom line is that for millenials, you have to find your own rites of passage with meaning to you. You cannot rely upon the US to give you "rites of passage", as our rites of passage are horseshit. I was in a frat too, and it's not a substitute. It will help you learn social skills and help you learn to network, but it will only minorly help you become an independent man capable of seeing reality for what it is, and acting in your own best interests.

All you see today are "Straw" rites of passage. Studying abroad, travelling the world, etc. Maybe if you traveled across Asia on a motorcycle on an extremely low budget, but most "travelling" is just getting titillated by whatever entertainment locals will produce for you in return for your $. We all know what chicks mean when they say they backpacked across Europe, and no life skills were learned in that process.

You have to find something real, something that will challenge you and force you to confront reality & become better.

[–]kamenr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a great believer in "two years before the mast" for young men.

[–]2Overkillengine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

they are simply drugging boys who can't sit still

If they were really interested in maximizing the educational progress of males there would be more emphasis on beginning of the day physical education classes (for fitness and burning off excess energy constructively) as well as hands on (practical) teaching instead of rote data instillation.

But there is not. Draw your own conclusion from that.

[–]coffee_34 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women run this country. That explains why everything is so shit.

[–]cariboo_j 2 points3 points  (1 child)

mass drugging, which leads to frustration and underperformance

This is anecdotal but I tried Ritalin and Adderal in university "off label".

Holy shit! They're performance enhancing drugs. I was a studying machine. I sat down for 10 and made perfect notes. No study breaks. Ultimate focus.

[–]Annihilate_This 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great for a studying purpose or a focusing purpose if you are not afflicted.

[–]1Entropy-7[🍰] 6 points7 points  (13 children)

This is part of the way-back machine so bear with me.

If you are 18 years old and frustrated then:

1) Get your head out of your ass; get some good clothes and a nice hair cut 2) Lift 3) join or form a rock band 4) (YMMV if you are in America; I am Canadian); join the army reserve. Otherwise, many university girls are a waste of DNA.

[–]johnyann 15 points16 points  (7 children)

The Army is just as big a part of this social engineering project. Has become an absolute disaster since Obama took over.

[–]1Entropy-7[🍰] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

It started back in the early 90s. Between sexual assault and affirmative action, it became a real mess a good quarter century ago.

[–]Troll_Name 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Women can get random pregnant then ditch their service.

Men can be presumed-guilty of rape, yes even in the military.

Between this and the massive REMF faggotry seen since at least Vietnam (friends dying, rifle leveled on the enemy's head, ordered to hold fire indefinitely,) I am truly surprised there hasn't been a news-worthy armed upheaval over it.

People have already sat in huge numbers in DC during the Obama administration, with guns on their backs (peacefully,) and the media had a total blackout over it while the degradation of liberty only accelerates. Everything I know about history tells me this is like a kid striking a hornet's nest with a baseball bat.

What scares me most about this year is the GOP primary. The more I look at it, the more it seems the political elite would rather slaughter us all than accept a challenge from the outside.

[–]1Entropy-7[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a Canadian, maybe my opinion doesn't carry much weight.

Trump is a bit of a knob, but having said that I like the way he has the establishment mother-fuckers quaking in their boots.

A billionaire who is not beholden to any outside interests has some scary possibilities, but maybe it is what America needs at this juncture.

Thank fuck that there is a two-term limit, so Obama can go off on speaking tours and not be in a position to really fuck your nation up any further. I was actually astounded that he won a second term. Based on exit poll data, it was know-nothing 20-somethings and "persons of color" who elected him.

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (1 child)

it became a real mess a good quarter century ago.

so why advocate joining it?

[–]billcosbyeatsbabies 2 points3 points  (1 child)

one of these things is not like the others. join the army reserve?? sure, for survival skills and implementing awesome habits and building a sick body. otherwise, you're a tool in the hands of the elites; a pawn in the middle of the chessboard. don't fight for this government, it's a complete setup.

[–]trp_angry_dwarf 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yup. Did this. No ragrets. Best thing I could have done.

[–]Evileddie13 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This some deep shit, brother. DEEP.

[–]WhySoRuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Classrooms are lead by women and are designed to reward skills that girls develop at a much earlier age than boys. So is it any wonder that many boys get frustrated and start to underperform? I don't mean to propagate a victim-mentality here, but the numbers speak for themselves: women outperform men at every level of the education system.

Obviously things have taken a drastic turn since I was in school. I'm 31 now and beginning in 5th grade, the top performers in the class were boys. In every single field, boys excelled over girls. The top 5 performers in my class were 4 boys and one girl.

In middle and high school, the same boys were still top performers but their intensity had diminished thanks to their hormones. The girls started catching up solely based on effort. When you have boys chatting you up left and right, you can focus on your studies and do well instead of trying to make friends.

Furtnermore, in high school, the teacher of the year was awarded to a personable Government teacher who happened to be a man, all 4 years I attended. Compared to the only female teacher that made an impact on me (uber masculine face and mannerisms, short butch like hair), who taught advanced geometry, he was ten times the teacher she was.

It's obvious that since I was a student, society has moved the goalposts in true female/feminist fashion and that is how "girls are outperforming boys". /scoffs

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for writing this up, more people need to be aware of the history behind the conditioning that happens in our schools. One little thing to add too: today kids look to their peers for growth. What I mean is that kids spend time with other kids, trying to navigate the unsteady waters that lead to adulthood. This is a new phenomenon. Historically, kids spent more time with adults, from which they learned to be adults themselves. This is why we've had decade after decade of entitled people with a complete lack of direction or motivation. These kids have a share in the blame, but at the end of the day they were never TAUGHT how to be an adult. Especially when you have kids raised by single mothers. 25% of kids today are raised by single mothers. 72% of black kids are raised by single mothers. How does a boy learn to become a grown man under these conditions? Younger guys think wearing plaid and rocking a beard is manly because they didn't get a true understanding of what a real man is. Yeah beards are legit, but we're talking about the IMAGE of manliness vs. actual manliness.

It's shit like this that leads to things like TRP getting created. Men have realized that they've gotten robbed of something, so we've created our own space to figure out what that something is. It's a testament to our spirit of wanting to know the world as it actually is, which is a masculine trait.

[–]rockumsockumrobots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This...everything single thing you just said, is why my parents homeschooled me. Make sure you give your kids good social interaction otherwise, but for the love of god, if you have kids, homeschool them and teach them how the world really works.

[–]progggrammerr99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As i read this i sit in English listening to my teacher lecture us about sexism in huck finn. Everything we've read is apparently sexist because "oh it sets unrealistic expectations about women" or "oh the woman character is stupid"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a graduating senior this year,


thankful I rejected the meds

[–]kishin24 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Great post. Interesting point that of the lack of male teachers in school. However, doesn't that sound a bit like women's complaints about the lack of women in STEM fields? How would you respond to a girl's argument saying that if we want more male teachers than we should go into education? I'm genuinely curious.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How would you respond to a girl's argument saying that if we want more male teachers than we should go into education? I'm genuinely curious.

I would avoid that argument in the first place for the following reason: feminists and Red Pill men address oppression/social issues in a fundamentally different way.

Unlike feminists, I wouldn't claim that anything posted here should cause one to develop a victim mentality. Hell, even if an external oppressor is trying to enslave you, that's still not a reason to identify as a victim.

What we're trying to do at TRP is gather facts that allow us to raise our awareness so we can make better decisions. Instead of enrolling my kid in a feminine public school and then complaining about his indoctrination for the next decade, I will simply home school him or send him to an all boys school. Ultimately, I take responsibility for every facet of my life, and if I find myself in a disadvantaged position I think, "damn I slipped up. I should've researched this more or made a different decision. Next time I'll do better."

There's never any excuse to be a victim. We collect knowledge to improve at the Game, not to start social justice crusades and feel bad for ourselves.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like u/LegenraryPeace said, when he argues that there are no male role models for kids growing up, he's not saying there's a conspiracy that keeps men out, he's just stating a fact. Why are there no male teachers? Many factors, the top one being that because women are by nature better with kids/want to work with kids, they have flooded the profession, feminized it beyond recognition and made it simultaneously unappealing and dangerous for men. Imagine trying to get some kind of word out as a male teacher, any argument you make will be drowned by the emotional outpours of all the women there. The other reasons are largely a consequence of this: the profession has been devalued (both in terms of salary and prestige), men who work with kids are looked upon with suspicion and the educational standards have dropped to such a low level that entering the field would just be endless frustration.

Also consider the fact that having men in education wouldn't really achieve anything if they weren't positive role models, so merely having pussy-whipped males is not a solution. And they will be pussy-whipped as long as they have shit status and are looked upon with scorned by women. In the days when women worked until marriage, even the elementary grade teacher was shown respect and this respect gave him the confidence to be a positive male role model. It's like people understood this instinctively, that you can't expect kids to listen to someone their parents have no respect for. So what's the solution? I don't think there is, not in the current climate, and not for everyone. At a personal level, you have to be the best male role model for your boy. But for everyone else, expect it to get worse before it gets better.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Women just end up holding their female superiority protests boards when such statistics reach the surface. Women also have massive zen in their peak years. All the opportunity, sexual and romantic attention are one text message away. All they need to do is choose who to fuck and who to bed. Boys end up sexually frustrated most of the time. Even Chad is itching his balls in puberty thinking of nothing else.

School is a test of clearance of mind over anything else. Do you have the ability to devote all your time and attention to this subject? is the question that will decide whether you get an A or a D. It's not intellectually difficult but it takes time. Women doll themselves up and call it a day after a hike, that leaves hours upon hours for school. Even more if they don't have a passion or hobby, which most of them don't.

[–]ProductivityMonster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is unquestionably true for me. I can't tell you the hours I fought between jacking it and studying while in school. I still managed good grades, but I definitely could have been a superstar had this not hindered me. Now that I'm a little bit older and about to go back for my professional degree, I think I can tame the beast and own the classes.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like a lot of girls sort of stop maturing emotionally when they are in their early 20s. They will get more life experience, but they will still be like "I like to do stupid shit, because girl power. I like to make mistakes" etc.

I think guys emotionally continue to mature into their 30s and 40s. more so than not.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shit, your post has some hardcore eye opening truth. Thanks for sharing

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The School Sucks podcast covered a bunch of this material for anyone interested in learning more.

Great video of his: http://youtube.com/watch?v=okPnDZ1Txlo

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck school, I come here to learn.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There were so many times in high school where I was just zoning out in my studio art classes working on projects only to be interrupted by that obnoxious bell to go to my next class- fucking english with some menopausal bitch who couldn't keep her emotions in check and (I shit you not) actually called a black student in my class "n*gger" (to be fair, she was joking around and black kids everywhere use the word pretty liberally.. This was also before the days of "PC" I'm sure she would've been fired had she done it today).

Anyway, this fucking piece of shit would write me up for skipping class or showing up late when I had more important things to work on in my art classes.. Pretty sure all we did in junior english was read antigone to each other and no one paid attention anyway. Also I wrote a 10 page research paper in that class on the patriot act, national security and its potential infringements on our rights as citizens.. She told me "Don't write about conspiracy theories" bitch.. what?!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regarding the ADHD item. The 20 percent statistic is precisely why counselors and teachers should not assume every hyperactive child has ADHD. Those of us with legitimate diagnoses represent 2-5% of the overall population. And many of us were diagnosed very early because of problems at home, school and with friends. ADHD goes way beyond short attention spans and hyperactivity. Sorry for the very subjective rant but as someone who (along with his father and younger brother) struggled with this disorder, we and our good physicians know what ADHD is and more importantly what it isn't. I hope society catches up at some point.

[–]watcher45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very well said and very well researched. Many of these have been my oqn observations of contemporary life in America.

[–]cariboo_j 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You listen to the School Sucks Podcast?

They talk about a lot of the same stuff.

[–]SexistFlyingPig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

John Taylor Gatto's The Underground History of American Education is also a good resource.

[–]5t3fan0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i was born and raised in italy, and its mindblowing my head that kids gets prescribed psych-drugs (here in my country is very rare i imagine, usually only for people with a real need like suicidal kids or heavily traumatized, definitely not 1in5 or even 1in10). its totally mindfucking!

i mean, as a non usa-person i could be in favour or opposition to typical "usa-things/clichè" like guncontrol, heavy use of gmo, massive military and so on... but giving drugs to children, that's totally bat-shit crazy on whole new level! there's no even questioning this!

[–]DonaldLMessi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Free college is a no brainer for the government. Another 4 years of indoctrination and more value out of your tax cow for the rest of their life

[–]TomFoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God I love how RP undresses everything.

[–]Redjatis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child, and took Ritalin for about a year.

I have a question that I haven't really been able to find an answer for.

Many Narratives suggest that the number of boys with ADHD is far less than the number of boys diagnosed with ADHD.

However they tell us that if you have ADHD, taking ritalin, (which is a stimulant, similar to meth) actually calms you down, and slows you down so to speak. This was the case for me.

So if such a great number of these ADHD Diagnosis are false, wouldn't they know pretty fucking soon that they were wrong, because they would have spracked out kids in their class?

[–]robertpaulsontitties 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will often hear people from older generations say that they made something of themselves in spite of only receiving an eighth grade education. The basic idea is that they were at a disadvantage because their education was cut short and circumstances forced them to enter the job market at 14. Modern sensibilities would agree with this assessment. But maybe we have this up-side-down. Maybe the fact their education ceased in their early teen years was actually an advantage rather than a disadvantage. Even in our so-called information age economy (or pick your favorite buzzword) how much of what people do at their jobs is a product of on the job training? The more I think about the education system, the more I think of them as holding pens where the most productive years of your life go to die.

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