Rant/VentingReduce your misogyny by being manly (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by TRP VanguardArchwinger

​There’s a little boy who used to attend my daughter’s previous pre-school, though he just got kicked out. This is the second or third school where he’s gotten the boot. He’s four, just about to turn five, and you’d think he already has a criminal record the way the neighborhood women gossip about him.

You know after about thirty seconds in this kid’s presence that he’s destined for a life of Ritalin, getting scolded by teachers, and scraping by via the skin of his teeth. He’s a nice kid – friendly, social – but very, very high energy. Passionate about everything, no matter how unimportant, to the point where he throws things and hits people. He’s not emotionally disturbed, or actually trying to hurt anybody. He doesn’t need psychiatric help for emotional disorders or meds to numb him or anything like that. He’s just a victim of shitty parenting, no boundaries, and teachers who don’t want to deal with him and pass him off, so he doesn’t know what to do with his abundance of energy or how to cope with things when he gets frustrated.

I’m not saying he’d be a model of excellence under other circumstances. He probably actually has ADHD or is slightly on the Asperger edge of the spectrum. He’d probably benefit from medical intervention, at least until he learns socially acceptable coping skills. But the thing that would give him the greatest benefit is a system that actually deals with him and improves him instead of a system designed to make life as easy for the system as possible. That and better parenting.

In the last two schools he was asked to leave, the triggering event that earned him the boot was hitting girls. He scuffles with boys, too, but the boys generally fight back, there’s discipline involved for both parties, and nobody’s kicked out. But girls at that age tend to react in shock when physically confronted. They’re not used to it. They just buckle down and scream and cry.

Hitting boys is still a big deal, but hitting girls is treated as an unforgivable slice of awful.

So my wife was chatting with another girl’s mother whose child still attends the latest pre-school, and the gossip is that this young boy “doesn’t like girls.” As the conversation goes on, it comes up that his father is “a man’s man” and “that’s probably where he gets it.” Because as we all know, muscular and professionally successful men who do manly work in their garages and back yards and toss the football with their kids take a lot of extra time to teach their sons misogyny, mostly through example by mistreating their hot wives who clearly only stay with these men due to the extreme low self-esteem and lack of confidence that plagues all super-hot women with designer clothes and purses.

It was a very funny thing to think about, because if you look at this without the emotions in play, a kid who hits everybody that frustrates him – guy or girl – is definitely a messed up kid, but he’s the least sexist kid at the school. The ones who don’t hit girls, because they’re girls, are actually sexist, because they’re treating girls differently and more gently on account of their sex. Already, at age 4, they’ve been indoctrinated with the mentality that girls are weaker, lesser – inferior – and that you don’t hit them because they can’t take it the way you can. Because you’ll get into extra trouble if you hit a girl.

It was also kind of funny thinking about his dad and the idea that “a man’s man” is so likely to be a misogynist. Buff, socially apt, confident guys who play sports all through high school, fuck cheerleaders, join a cool frat in college, fuck sorority sisters, and go on to get a cush job through their social connections tend to be the least sexist guys out there. These guys actually like and appreciate women. They’ve been around women all their lives and interact with them like normal human beings.

It’s the scrawny/fat, socially awkward, under-confident guys who suck at sports, suck at social situations, and never got a date all through high school or college that are bitter and hate women. Yet none of the women in the neighborhood accuse the fat, stand-offish, socially awkward engineer with the domineering Type-A wife who lives at the end of our road of being sexist. But you should hear the crap he spouts on poker night after a few beers. His daughter has issues so extreme that her mom pulled her out of public school to home-school her. Of course, none of the women in the neighborhood really acknowledge his existence at all. Not even his wife, most of the time. He’s kind of invisible, never invited to social functions, only around when his wife brings him. He has an awesome computer in his office, though. He might even be reading this right now.

Manly men like and appreciate women. They treat women like people. It’s the white knights and the womanized losers that make up the large majority of misogynists.

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[–]NaughtyFred 230 points231 points  (41 children)

The ones who don’t hit girls, because they’re girls, are actually sexist, because they’re treating girls differently and more gently on account of their sex.

It’s the white knights and the womanized losers that make up the large majority of misogynists.

Good points raised. Reminds me of a scene from the movie Ghost Dog: Way of the samurai.

Louie: Jesus, Vinny. You just iced a woman, you know that?
Vinny: You know what you are, Louie? You're a fuckin' male chauvinist pig.
Louie: What do you mean, I'm a male chauvinist pig? You just shot a broad.
Vinny: A cop. I just shot a cop. They wanna be equal? I made her equal.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (4 children)

You beautiful motherfucker, congratulations on having seen the greatest film of all time.

[–]Unexpected_Artist 6 points7 points  (3 children)

That's what I said! I'm glad there are others here in TRP who appreciate Bushido/Hagakure.

[–]xpoizone 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What's the exact name of the movie? I'm getting mixed results on Google.

[–]the_number_2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai

Stars Forest Whitaker as a contract killer.

[–]xpoizone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Will definitely watch after exams.

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 68 points69 points  (22 children)

I was at a bar once with one of my plates who was the... unstable type of girl. Great fucking, bad pretty much everywhere else.

Anyways she gets pretty hammered and we are sitting at a table shooting the shit with my close friends. She's fucking with me and I'm flirting back with her.

Then, she starts jabbing me in the crotch. Not hard but it's a blatant shit test. She's doing it in front of everyone and looking around to make sure everyone sees. She's the type of girl that absolutely loves domination, like wiped till she's crying type. I see where this is going. She loves public humiliation, degradation and being put in her place. I grab her hair then back of the neck and bend her over and make her hold the pose. Kinda like kids do when they are about to give a swirly. Let her struggle a minute then let her back up. Thought that'd be the end of it.

Nope, another jab, then another one a little be harder, then another. Each time I'm un-reactive. Everyone in the circle is watching now. the last one I actually felt and she saw me wince a bit.

I look at her and say, "Hit me again and I'm going to hit you back". I said it loud to make sure everyone heard it but not in an angry tone. It was an amused tone with a smirk but delivered similar to how a father would say it when he's telling his kid to cut the shit.

She hesitates for a moment and sizes me up as to whether I'm being serious.

My open back hand contacts her face as her fist touches my jeans.

Her face was priceless. Like she just saw a ghost. I didn't hit her hard nor did my hand actually hit her. My fingers just wiped her face to make a loud smack. (you learn how to hit smack a girl with a good sting when they're into bdsm without any actual pain) It sounded bad but there wasn't even a red mark 5 minutes later.

Everyone's face was also priceless.

I laugh as I knew in about a .5 seconds a fury of fists would be flying at me so i grab her wrist, spin her around and bear hug her while she tires herself out, which took all of 10 seconds.

Loudly and with a big laugh as she is struggling i say, "I told you if you punch me in the dick again you're going to get hit"

"fuck you"

"Maybe later"

Push her away and she storms off.

Everyone is looking at me stunted. "Hey, women wanted to be treated equal, i gave her equal lefts with equal rights."

People can't argue with you when you point out their absurd logic on a status quo.

"Omg clint"

~laugh~ "She'll be back"

(spoilers, she was and brought a drink but wouldn't let me have it till i kissed her)

Later on in the relationship she admitted she loved that i never let her get away with shit. She hated how all the guys before where pussies.

Go. Fucking. Figure.

First off, don't ever do what i just did. If a whiteknight had seen it I'd be in a bar fight before i even got a hold of her wrist. I sized up my situation before i ever told her she is getting hit and i knew no one but my close friends would see it. Which all of them also knew our sexual dynamic and the fact my plate liked bdsm and to be put in her place. They where all aware of her instability.

What i did was a perfect way to fuck up your entire world.

The point is though, when you pull shit that seems sexist, it's usually not. I treat her the same way I'd treat a dude. Well actually a dude would get laid the fuck out but don't ever allow a chick the pussy pass. Good rule of thumb is if you would allow a dude to do it, don't allow a chick to do it. I could have handled it more tactfully but i knew that was not what she was looking for.

Also, always fucking laugh and be amused. If i was pissy or angry the chances of my drunk friends turning whiteknight would rise, It's an obvious lose of frame and shows that the girl can rattle you. She'll then use it again and again and again cause she found a button to push. But since i laughed and mocked the situation everyone could tell I wasn't serious nor did it really hurt her. Amused mastery.

And again, don't ever fucking do this. It was probably a once and a lifetime situation where i had a girl that liked public humiliation and shit like that(this wasn't the first nor last time I put her in her place and every time she'd eat it up). i was with life long friends that all knew our sexual dynamic and her craziness and I made sure no whiteknights could jump in to save the damsel in distress, which would obviously get them laid because nothing gets a girl wetter than some random dude saving M'lady.

Also, she was back 10 minutes later and we fucked like pornstars that night. That's also the night she learned she liked being smacked in the face so i gave her a few more.

[–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (4 children)

When you're used to preferential treatment, equality seems unfair.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Wow, I never thought about it that way

[–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Every now and then there's a zinger that makes all the sense in the world. This is one of them.

Edit:especially considering the OP. Which is about how betas and white knights treat women different. Being red means treating them like equals. Not being susceptible to the standard female "charm" and thus maintaining stoicism.

[–]Tom_The_Human 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's a shame that it's a line often used by feminists.

[–]Boovs4life 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Wise words by Thomas Sowell: "When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination."

[–]Dashrenderful 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Theres a time and a place for everything.

One thing TRP re-taught me (something that i kind of instinctively knew throughout my life) is that theres a time and a place for everything. If you can analyse a situation and know what needs to be done, you've basically won.

All you need to do then is man up, and fucking do it.

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I just want to say that I'm glad to included the second half of your post. There are so many idiots on this forum that have yet to develop the social awareness to pick up on the small details that make all the difference in the worlds.

If you change even one of the variables in your situation it could go from a great outcome to an absolute life-destroying disaster. Obviously nobody understands that better than you, but it's great that you clarified.

[–]Lucifer_The_Unclean 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I had a girl keep punching my shoulder. I knew it was a shit test and we were around a bunch of other dudes who are street. I knew if I hit her I'd be fighting like 5 guys. So I told her if she hit me one more time I'd spank her. She hesitated with eye contact like your's did and she punched me again in the shoulder. So I grabbed her playfully and spanked her ass once. She said oh my god. I said loudly to make sure I didn't get beaten up: "Can't believe you wanted to be spanked so bad, I told you what would happen." You have to make sure you're loud and arrogant or the other guys will use it as an opportunity to white knight.

queue more teasing, flirting etc.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Ever cracked a towel on someones ass? Just loosen your hand and wipe it. If you get the distance wrong though you'll just punch them. It's good to angle it from left to right instead of directly forward to backwards. That way you are less likely to misjudge and actually hit them.

Think of a backhand vs a straight or jab. Don't do the straight/jab technique.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 1 point2 points  (1 child)

ya you pretty much use your fingers like a Cat O' nine tails.

[–]Sementeries 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My plate hits me in the balls playfully every once in a while like this, but today she hit the ballbag too hard, and I told her not to do that with a firm, calm gone. Usually it doesn't faze me and I spank her ass, would you say I failed?

[–]Evileddie13 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I dated a chic, a whore who brought me here, and had a similar experience in a bar. It was just her and I.The topic of 'How to punch' came up. I was a black belt, (still am, technicaly but it has been years since I've trained) in Bujinkan Taijitsu. I was taught punching is'falling into someone' So, I showed her. Basically, pushed her her into the bar HARD. Didn't mean to, alcohol and such. She didnt get hurt at all. The whole BAR got quiet...heard 'What the fuck you doin, man?' 'You all right?' She, thankfully, explained, everything was all right. I still think of that moment often. I could have gotten hurt really bad. White Knights can be brutal.

[–]Hviterev 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Haha, Buyu here, 3rd dan. TRP aside, man or female, don't go full tsuki on someone in a bar dude. But yeah, depending on where you live, people can go full psycho for that.

[–]Evileddie13 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Awesome man! Where do you train? What state?

[–]Hviterev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Outside of the US, in Europe :)

[–]Boovs4life 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So how would we be able to handle this so the white knights don't jump to her defense? Just take the dick punching?

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

flip her over and spank her. Fuck with her more. Just be creative

[–]Unexpected_Artist 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Why do you got to go and mention one of my favorite movies!?

One of my first real bits of unbastardized wisdom as a teenager was reading "Hagakure." Funny thing is now days my brother (PhD in Asian philosophy), and his wife (also holds a doctorate) read this book and share it with others! Life is fucking funny.

There's a lot to be said about TRP being a sorta intellectual step-father for us that got blue pilled by single mothers.

One thing I learned when reading Hagakure was that being a man was about a code. What that code actually is doesn't really matter. A man must have conviction. A man must act when others fall short. A man must be decisive (this one is my biggest struggle!).

[–]putinbusch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Just added that to my list. Whats your verdict on it?

[–]Unexpected_Artist 1 point2 points  (0 children)


It has some marvelous jewels of wisdom. It is provided in short passages at a time. These can be worthy of savoring, meditating on or otherwise.

Some parts are somewhat dated, but at times I'm surprised it's not MORE dated for being written in the 1600s. Topics of sex, death, honor, masculinity, and changes in generations are all there.

I'm considering making it mandatory reading for my submissives, but I may need to trim it down to only those that are pertinent.

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Just bought the Kindle version on Amazon for under $1.

[–]Hviterev 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hagakure is a great book, as long as you read it considering that the author was frustrated for being refused to commit suicide, and thus, is not an accurate depiction of somekind of average fascination towards death. It is well known because it was used to motivates young soldiers to do kamikaze and printed as somekind of propaganda towards death fascination.

That being said, again, glorious book.

[–]Unexpected_Artist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always assumed it was an over exaggeration on death worship, but to counteract the powerful survival instinct might be necessary.

I hadn't heard about it used as a form of propaganda, but that's not surprising. The kamikaze pilots did seem to adhere to a certain code of Bushido.

It's cool when you think about it and how it was once the secret teachings of a province.

[–]UniversalFapture 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You know , I don't wanna be a lady hating loser. If you think about it, TRP saves the sanity of a lot of men. Maybe a Chad reads this, maybe not. I'd like to thing that if we were all awesome , this sub wouldn't exist. Redpill is here to rescue men from turning into Elliot Rodgers or killing themselves. As I've said before, we give out the tools needed to build. Whether that be a LTR or a plan to spin plates into infinity. But What is built is up to the individual.

With TRP, you could build a better life. A better understanding of the world around you. To ensure growth. And to be as happy as one man can be.

What worked for our fathers and grandfathers is obsolete now. It's not to say "AWALT" every chance I get, it's to adapt to changes and act accordingly. After all, we are men. This isn't any different than what we've been doing since the beginning of time. Genesis, or whatever your believe in.

It's just taking everyone a little longer to realize that there needs to be a change.

But We made the change. And that's what matters. It's not up to us to save everyone, but the option is there, the tools are there, to reclaim who your masculinity. To reclaim who you are. That, my friend, is the soul purpose of this sub.

We all have made mistakes with women. But with practice and persistence, we can handle this feminist situation a lot better.

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[–]UniversalFapture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you didn't spark the comment. I was responding to the quote that you mentioned about the loser guys hating women. That's true. And that's what I was talking about. Redpill fixes all these issues. Or at least,gives you a cool head so you can handle them.

A lot of the time it's either this or the ledge

[–]Tallsmarthandsome 0 points1 point  (2 children)


The acting is pretty bad. This is a good movie to be re-made, hollywood is all about the re-make these days.

[–]StoicBeard 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You really don't know cinema son, do your research.

[–]Tallsmarthandsome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The acting in that scene is awful.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 79 points80 points  (9 children)

The thing women hate the most is not being able to tell men how to be men. The other thing women hate the most is men that let women tell them how to be a man.

This is the fem-centric Double Bind.

Both groups are "misogynists" in women's eyes. But the reality, as you so aptly point out, is that only one group is truly misogynistic ... and they are often the ones who have abandoned their own masculinity. The ones who fell prey to the Double Bind. Even for them the question is whether it is really "hate", or simply a matter of self-loathing for their own capitulation.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger[S] 52 points53 points  (7 children)

The group of manly "misogynists" women gossip about are the men they'd fuck if they could. "He's such an asshole" is code for "He has my attention".

The real misogynists are pretty much invisible to women.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (28 children)

This was my boy at 4. Without channeling the energy into sports and a strong set of boundaries (placed by me) he would also be fucked in a feminized, medicalized way.

Instead, he is gonna kick ass and never understand the weakness of men around him. Girls already lining up for the attention he doesnt give away freely

[–]2Archterus 32 points33 points  (18 children)

Important points. Both by OP and ultimatecad. I sadly see children often sent to me to 'sort them out', 'use medication' etc. Almost invariably the referrer is a female, mother or school teacher. The correlation between poor parenting, limited boundary setting, ambivalent or non existent discipline is so high that I remain unconvinced about the validity of ADHD as an entity. In twenty years I have seen two kids that I would unequivocally diagnose with this and both of those assaulted their mother and destroyed my office within ten minutes of arrival. That's two out of about 5000 consults/pa x 20+ years. We (the medical profession) have become an accomplice in the feminisation of boys. Tragic. I try to wage my own little war but often they just leave and take the kid elsewhere. Very few want to hear the truth.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (5 children)

Have a point for identifying ADHD as rare if not make believe.

There is a war on masculinity and our opponents have selected our weakest link:

Six year old boys.

I am not angry that women are cheating, disloyal whores.

I am furious they tried to poison my boy because "candidate for meds".

Fuck em. The kid is gonna break hearts and go very far

[–]2Archterus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Justifiable anger. There are medicine cupboards full of that shit in schools all over this country (Australia), just waiting for the morning admin. Strength to you, all the best for your boy, at least he has got a solid mentor in his life.

[–]juliusstreicher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This here. Teachers/doctors/etc are too fucking lazy to deal with a highly energetic boy, and they make up some shit and give them elephant tranquilizers.

[–]Swelfie 9 points10 points  (9 children)

I would like to explain for a moment about ADHD. I'm in my 40s and spent most of my life until recently without medication. I am lucky because I'm really fucking smart, but most people aren't. I am highly successful but until I latched onto my current career was never able to hold a job for more than 2 years (although they were very successful jobs).

ADHD is primarily a dopamine deficiency (and norepinepherine, but let's forgo the details). Dopamine is the reward chemical. Whenever you accomplish something, anything, your brain gives you a shot. When you are a lazy fuck you feel the need to get your fix so you do something to get your shot. ADHD people don't get that. ADHD people are below baseline in dopamine so they don't feel good from that shot of dopamine. They don't feel accomplished. They feel normal when they get that shot. Then it fades quickly and they feel like a lazy fuck. ALL the time. This leads them to one of two things. One is extreme action all the time in order to keep the dopamine coming in order to stay at baseline Fighting, fucking, learning, drinking, smoking, daydreaming, self imposed anxiety, stress, encroaching deadlines and being a motherfucking superhero all spike dopamine. You have to CONSTANTLY fight your way through all the exciting parts of life just to feel normal. It's exhausting. The other thing you can do is resign yourself to failure and sink into the pit of lazy fuck loser dispair. And it often cycles. You run out of that energy to keep struggling and give up for a bit, then gather your strength and fight again. Some never gather their strength; remember that alcohol and cigarettes are just as effective at spiking dopamine, so you can just drink yourself numb all the time.

So, for someone who learns to thrive on the struggle, as I did, you can be highly effective. But there is a catch. Not all of life is exciting. Some is monotonous, like checking email, paying bills, actually DOING the shit you are good at instead of the thrill of learning to be good.

Enter low-dose amphetamines. Meth. People love meth because it spikes dopamine ALOT. But for an ADHD person, just a tiny bit brings them to normal. Then, when they do something they can feel accomplished and at the end of the day actually ENJOY a well deserved beer instead of NEED one because of the dopamine hit.

Now, if you want to know what it's like to have to pay bills with depressed dopamine and no hope of enough stimulation from the activity to actually even feel normal? Imagine being handed a spoonful of actual shit and told you can't do anything else until you eat it. You look at that shit and you tell yourself you have to eat it and your stomach turns and you feel sick and you think of all the things you could be doing other than slurping shit off a spoon. You actually get physically ill and your mind reels from the thought and given any way out you take it. Yeah. That page of math problems for homework or that growing inbox is my shit and I have to face it every day and some days I'm not strong enough to put it in my mouth.

Now, give me 10mg of adderall and bring my dopamine to baseline and suddenly that math homework isn't a spoonful of shit anymore. It's just mildly unpleasant math homework. No longer am I fighting an insurmountable revulsion to putting shit in my mouth, I'm just working. I don't NEED to start a fistfight just to feel normal. I can feel normal just doing something fairly meanial.

So if a kid actually has ADHD, and isn't just a disciplinary problem, teaching him coping mechanisms is great but don't ever expect him to enjoy the taste of shit. That low-dose amphetamine doesn't numb him at all. He's already numb. That's why he runs and fights and does an exorbitant amount of kid stuff... Because he naturally feels numb and wants to feel SOMETHING.

But yes, give a perfectly normal kid meth and they just feel like a normal kid on meth. Not a great idea.

[–]1AFCdood 11 points12 points  (4 children)

I'm gonna go ahead and burst this made-up pity party and let you know this is how literally everyone in a first world country feels with all real survival related stimuli removed from daily life. That's why most people are out of shape lazy fucks and a motivated few are successful physically and financially.

You aren't describing ADHD, you're describing life. You have even further convinced me ADHD is made up for attention-seeking crybabies.

[–]Swelfie 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Maybe I am. Having lived with others my entire life and observing something "different" about how I and they operate however, I have come to the logical conclusion that taking out the trash is not something they seem to need 2 days to work up the motivation to do. Neither do I experience the "darkness" and "hopelessness" of life that is described for depression... I've actually always been pretty happy, except you know, when shit happens and I'm sad. And having done some Ritalin (which really didn't do much) and Adderall (which actually helped immensely) I'm pretty convinced personally.

And really, I've got nothing to prove to an AFCdood anon from the internet. Just sharing my knowledge and experience. I've got 40+ years of fucking awesome success under my belt, so I'm not using this as a symbol of why I failed. I'm in pretty fucking high levels of research, industry and government and have moved billions of dollars, so no, I haven't failed because of ADHD. Just saying, that when a dude can do earth shaking shit but gets physically ill trying to read emails in the morning, I don't think that's normal, and coincidentally, most psychiatry researchers don't either. And if a tiny bit of amphetamine makes the daily doldrums tolerable, then I think that's a good thing. Regardless, I've got my script and just passing on the story so that others with the same predicament might get theirs.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A tiny bit of amphetamines...hamster much?

These are not so subtle drugs and 20 percent of American boys take them with their morning OJ

[–]Swelfie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And I agree that 20% is way too high a percentage.

And you shouldn't take them with OJ... Acid breaks down the medication and makes it less effective.

[–]WhySoRuff 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Are you aware how the medication changes the brains chemistry permanently? I doubt the endgame is just to control boys for a few years and then let them run amok later..

[–]thismaytakeawhile 0 points1 point  (0 children)


What is this?

[–]ChadThundercockII 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No six years old boy in the Arab world takes meds because he is "high energy" or "unsettled". People say he is still young, he needs to move about and express himself, not take him to a doctor and give him pills that will screw up his brain.

So much for the Western civilization.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

This is my dream. Once I'm rich & successful (and ready for sons), I want to have like a ratpack of sons. Maybe like 4 or 5. I'm thinking of having them all from different gorgeous tall ssurrogate moms (all diff races too so my sons are all exotic). Then after all the boys are born, I'll pay the moms, get nannies to raise my sons until their old enough for me to take over. My sons are gonna be gorgeous athlete gladiators, alphas that fuck all the bitches.

This is a long time away but im looking forward to it. I'll figure out all the details by then.

[–]waffles492 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Gold. I have a similar plan for when I'm ready bear fruit. Truly, this is a noble post-game scenario. Whats funny is this is literal patriarchy, but oh so rewarding.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Im mixed ( Arabic, African, White & a bit of Spanish) & so I'd want the surrogate moms to all be diff races so my sons will be diff looking. 5 moms (one is Arab, one is white, one is Asian, one Is black, one is Spanish)

And then all my sons will be half me, half whatever race their mom is. So half mixed half Asian, half mixed half Arab, etc. Which will give my kids great genes and all my sons will look like exotic alphas. It'll be like having a team of alpha power rangers by the time their older. & I'm gonna get kids into sports from an early age.

[–]waffles492 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Forgot I wasn't posting from my alt account. Oh well, while I'm at it I might add that I definitely want some Spanish children. Spanish women got it going on

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fatherhood sounds amazingly rewarding, I can put all my love into my sons. I love the idea of being a dad, hate the idea of dealing with the mom.

[–]tekn0_ 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Until the surrogates give birth to a daughter by chance.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'll find out if its a girl early. If yeah, I'll abort it. Do not want daughters.

[–]tekn0_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be honest, you might be able to train daughters that can raise an entire generation of men that are redpill. Now that would be taking redpill to the next level, since you are training the female mind, and going all red pill programming from the childhood.

[–]abutterfly 55 points55 points [recovered]

It's been said a few times here and elsewhere that the most truly Red Pill men don't hate women. Quite the opposite, they love them. Knowing how they work, what makes them tick, makes spending time with women just as enjoyable as your favorite song, hobby, workout, food, whatever.

Cries of "misogyny!!" are a shit test, and a particularly insidious one at that. They are, like all shit tests, a tool to differentiate the true alpha from the mock alpha, the PUA, the 'undesirables.' A man who has truly internalized the values of the Red Pill (better stated as the values of masculinity itself) knows a claim of being misogynistic is absurd. He enjoys the company of women as much as he enjoys his own life, since in building his own attractive, desirable, and successful self, he improves the life of any woman he spends his time with. If he dismisses a woman, it's not because he hates her. Rather, it's likely because he recognizes her attraction to him has faded, and that is both an indicator of his own worth (as perceived by her) and her happiness. Think about it. If you were with a woman who didn't want to be with you, how would you react? If you choose to drag her along, surely you're inflicting as much discomfort to her as you are to yourself. That is not to say relationships are easy, but rather as is iterated time and again here: It has to look easy.

The reason TRP gets such a bad rap is because it is a place where incomplete, struggling men go to better themselves. It is a place where the struggle of man to be masculine, successful, and powerful is made public. Women want no part of this. They don't even want to know it exists. That is why the PUA community is openly mocked and reviled by so many women, just like our own. The anger phase is a natural byproduct of this struggle, but it is revolting to women. Those who are stuck there are doomed to true misogyny. But those who embrace masculinity, like /u/Archwinger has written, are capable of appreciating women in ways they truly desire.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger[S] 46 points47 points  (46 children)

The Red Pill detractors are really just a grown-up version of high school bullies. We have a lot of losers, fatties, scrawny guys, geeks, nerds, socially awkward guys on the autism spectrum, and all other manner of unsuccessful people that the in-crowd wishes would just shut up and disappear.

Nobody cares if guys like that complain -- sour grapes. Bitter virgins hating on women because they can't get laid. Classic beta-shaming.

The Red Pill won't turn you into someone you're not. But will teach you how to attain and live a winner's life. As a side effect of living a winner's life, you trick women into fucking you. That's terrifying to women.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 20 points21 points  (39 children)

It's terrifying to them because it's so fucking easy to do.

[–]widec 21 points22 points  (16 children)

I disagree, it's pretty difficult, at least if you start from a low position. It might seem easy for people who sort of have their shit together, but when you start from a huge disadvantage this process takes years and takes you through setback after setback.

I was really awkward when I graduated high school, and it really contributed to putting me in a deep depression. Around 3 years ago I vowed to make a serious effort to get my shit together.

I've really worked on my social skills, and have been putting myself out there, but I'd still consider my social skills to be pretty average. I tried lifting but I really fucked up my shoulder doing so and have to wait another half a year to see if I can get back into a routine.

I feel for all the young men struggling here, and sadly it's unrealistic that everyone will succeed just for putting in enough effort. I've realized this, and have been going a bit easier on myself mentally. No longer do I worry about what results my hard work will bring. I just make an honest effort to better myself and hope things will work out my way.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 14 points15 points  (14 children)

Growing up I was the fat kid due to a forced limited diet because of supposed allergies. I was hated and picked on until my sophomore year, then they are afraid of me because I got stronger and very adept in wrestling. With wrestling came losing fat and gaining muscle as well as confidence, it was a huge amount of work. Nothing is easy if it's worth having.

No girl in my school would ever dream of fucking me until my junior year, but they were afraid of me by then. I was 17 before I met a girl who didn't know me from before, and where I come from its sparsely populated. It took 7 towns and the surrounding farms to fill a class of only 30 kids. Everyone knew all about my past.

I learned how to seduce girls from her, by seducing her and by watching a friend of mine seduce her while I was three feet away. I was driven to get laid, looked at it with a cynical eye and went about it methodically. I learned what worked and what didn't, and it still works almost 30 years later. So I know what it takes to go from loser to stud, and I had to continually improve to keep getting laid, especially in the military.

I had to learn the hard way, before the internet when the Apple IIe was the big thing. You have the same shit I trial and errored my way through in the sidebar. Once you know what is in there, and you apply it, girls are fucking easy. Within two years of fucking the first one, I was over 20 notches. I'm not tall, I'm 5'8, I'm not rich and never have been. But I have well polished game and a confidence you can see easily. Without game, I don't get laid.

The point of my original comment is simply that girls can't tell the difference between a high value man and a scrub, all they can tell is if he makes her snatch moisten and ache. They're emotional beings,you play those emotions and they're putty in your hand, and it's so fucking easy to do.

[–]NikkyMontana 1 point2 points  (5 children)

They're emotional beings,you play those emotions and they're putty in your hand, and it's so fucking easy to do.


[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

You demonstrate high levels of self confidence through good open posture, large movements of your hands, direct eye contact, and casually touching them. Then you use your words. Create the frame.

Go out and be daring. Test things out. Hell you can pick up fat uggos from okcupid and just test out and practice your game. Learn and internalize that women desperately want to be bossed around and thrown around and to allow themselves to lose control because they trust that you have control. And that's why they shit test or fight you during sex. The more you control them, emotionally and, during sex, physically, and the more you pass their tests the more they trust that they can lose control and be safe with you.

Try saying sexually charged things to women. Picked up this married chick by asking her why she wasn't pregnant after she told me she's been married for five years. She said that her husband was the most loving man she'd ever met and would never force her to get pregnant. So I told her if she was with me she'd be pregnant or I'd be fucking her twice a day until she was. There's the frame.

Set a sexually charged frame early. This way the girl doesn't put you into the orbiter frame. Make sexually charged comments of all types all the time. Make it normal for girls to talk about sex with you because that's just how you are. You tell girls that you want to fuck them, basically. Tell them that they're fuckable. Literally just say that to them.

Look them up and down, with confident body language, and then direct eye contact and, "yeah... You're fuckable". Then pass the incoming shit tests with a laugh and enjoy your time with that girl.

You develop these things by doing them though. So get out there and start.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Since TRP I've sought to polarize myself.

Now I attract more feminine women. What you said about fighting back during sex really resonates. You have to dominate in bed. They fight so they can be dominated. They want to feel your strength. One shit test I kept getting was "too deep."

Then I just railed her. In the middle of it she said: "I don't know whether I'm coming or it hurts." Which again, TRP-- they don't care if they feel good or they feel bad, they just want to feel strongly.

[–]FunSizeChad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Simple and effective. This comment is solid.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grow a pair. Read the sidebar here and over at seddit. Lift. Believe in yourself/ believe you're the shit.

Oh, and most importantly, just like everything else in life: fucking practice.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's in the sidebar, and I've done everything in there at some point. I learned most of it on my own, trial and error plus the scientific method. I could rewrite all of it, but it's already done.

[–]polakfury 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I learned how to seduce girls from her,

What would you say were the key points you took away from her on this specifically?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (2 children)

She was very expressive, her facial expressions were long lasting compared to most girls. I could tell by looking at her that she was wanting to fuck my friend Mitch, and she displayed every non verbal gesture in the female playbook. So I watched and took note, remembering them all. Consequently every time I saw a girl look at me like that, I knew all I had to do was say hi, and then touch her. From there it was easy.

[–]polakfury 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Nice. Like the stereotypical touching her own hair etc type deal

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I see that, I know the pussy is getting wet.

[–]masnera -1 points0 points  (3 children)

The point of my original comment is simply that girls can't tell the difference between a high value man and a scrub,

I definitely don't agree with this, that's too much generalization there, differentiating a high value man to a scrub is a piece of cake nowadays. Although i knew scrubs in my life with high notch count, because they knew about girls...and it has become their own pitfalls that they have gone not much further in life.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Men can tell, girls cannot. Some can get an idea of what a high value man is, but all of them can be deceived easily.

In the same way, girls can tell if a girl is a slut by just looking at her, we can to some extent but we can be fooled too. That's the reason for red flags. They live amongst them, they are girls, they can read this we rarely see, and vice versa.

[–]sd4c 0 points1 point  (1 child)

In the same way, girls can tell if a girl is a slut by just looking at her, we can to some extent but we can be fooled too. That's the reason for red flags.

It seems like you're saying some women are sluts and some aren't. How does this fit in with AWALT (all women are like that)- you've taught us before about woman all being sluts:

Women will cheat, none are faithful, and they are always looking to trade up, even if it is in appearance only. They are bereft of honor, loyalty, logic and reason, and wholly undeserving of marriage. They simply are not like us [...] They are all like that, no matter what anyone says.

I agree that all women will cheat. I agree that zero are faithful. Earlier you mentioned that they are all poor judges of character, willing to throw away something very good to go to a world of shit. Is "slut" then, just shorthand for a woman who is an especially poor judge of character?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you still in high school, or an engineer of some sort? You're asking black and white questions, it's plug this info the equation and get this product thinking. I write with the assumption that the reader had read the sidebar, and won't ask 101 level questions.

All girls are sluts. Who they are a slut for varies greatly. The girls who easily open their thighs for me might never acknowledge you exist, and vice versa. Don't get hung up on that, as if there's a good one of there or not. That is sidebar material.

Girls know each other, just by body language, the same way I can read some guy and discern if he is a scrub playing a role to get chicks. They can tell the scrubs from the classy chicks, gold diggers from those who want kids and a family. Those aren't mutually exclusive traits, because any girl can be all of them.

The variable isn't her.

The variable is the man she is assessing.

[–]IDefyAxioms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried lifting but I really fucked up my shoulder doing so

Shit like this is why I stay away from lifting. Far too many ways to fuck up your body.

[–]TheEnglishman28 6 points7 points  (1 child)

It's like judo, you use their own weight and momentum against them.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When weight is emotions you're exactly right.

[–]snow_angel022968 1 point2 points  (17 children)

Actually, what's terrifying (for me, at least) is the men who take red pill to extremes. (I'd say 99% of the men are ok, it's the 1% that's terrifying)

For example, there was a post recently about some women who say no but who are, in fact interested. There was also the bit about looking at her actions as well (whether she moves away etc). There will be the 1% who ignore that last bit and take it to mean ALL no's just means try harder and next thing I know, that means getting jumped while doing grocery shopping (at 7pm, mind you), having to sneak out of the supermarket into a nearby store, trying to wait 15 minutes before leaving the store, only to have him sneak up behind me and asking why I ditched him at the supermarket and could I please just give him my number.

I'll also agree that red pill will also not turn you into a different person than you are already. I take the position of alphas being leaders and betas, followers. Being a follower of any group, including red pill, still makes you a follower. (By follower I mean if we were to assume trp is a book of what to do in various situations A-Y, and Z comes up, would you be able to figure out what to do in Z yourself? Or would your response be to immediately ask another person what you should be doing)

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 2 points3 points  (3 children)

The supermarket situation was textbook blue pill man's actions. The confusion, the eagerness, the beautiful hope. All of these must die as a man reads & understands the sidebar here. It's all exactly what a red pill man would never do, even though he WILL be terrifying to you in other ways.

[–]snow_angel022968 2 points3 points  (2 children)

On the contrary, I have come across a couple posts on TRP that gives me the impression they would put me in a similar situation to the supermarket one, hence my posting in the first place.

I'd agree those who truly understand trp (vs "understand") would likely not put me in that situation - which is why I've specified 1%. How often have you come across a post where the poster "understood" and you've thought wow, you've completely missed the point, you should go back and read the side bar? Those are the types of people I am referring to. (That is not to say all of those posters would, but there are definitely enough around)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem exists once the individual you specified crosses the line of abundance mentality. Asking for your number, following you outside the store, etc. All of those actions communicate neediness/follower traits, not leadership traits. Now, if he had said something mildly insulting which caused you to chase after him, then he would be utilizing TRP to maximize his outcome. This communicates an IDGAF mentality, and, if you chase him, has already enforced his frame in the conversation, since you need/want something from him.

[–]laterbatchez -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All of which is a great reason to put yourself under the protection of a man who gets it and keep him close at hand when you leave the house.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I'm not a leader here, but I'd still easily be able to asertain what to do in situation Z thanks to years of experience. I'm a leader in almost every other aspect of my life at this point thanks to my education here; I would strongly argue against your point. The leading nuclear physicist in the world would not also lead an open heart surgery if he wanted to participate in one, but would instead do everything in his power using all resources at his disposal to learn how to do one instead, and at some point along the way would start contributing.

Taking the pill didn't change me, but it gave me the understanding that I had to change, and so I did. It motivated me to change, and so I became a completely different person. People are incapable of being leaders at everything. The president of the United States, one of the most important leaders currently in the world, would be incapable of leading a basketball team, because he's actually comically terrible at the sport, and those players who respected him enough to let him try based on his current position would quickly take that leadership role away from him because it was actively hindering their season. They'd subconciously lose respect for him in the process, too. TRP just teaches you how to develop leadership characteristics which you can apply to every aspect of life. Even then, with all the years of change and education I've been through, even when others learn from me, I'm not one who's contributing posts. Maybe it's out of selfishness, like I'm sure it is for many others.

Point is, you may want to rethink your definition of alpha; each community has their alphas and betas, and they often don't overlap. Someone who reigns king at animecon and pulls nerd pussy like there's no tomorrow will still fail miserably at the sports bar with the washed up sorority girls who didn't settle down in time. In one situation, he's the alpha, and in the other he's the bottom of the totem pole. Women want to see perceived value, and that obviously changes dramatically based on context and circumstance.

Sucks about the omega rapist you dealt with today, but I promise you any man who actually has swallowed and embraced the pill is not like that. That's not 1%, that's on the other end of the spectrum. Many people who comment and post here have put the metaphorical pill in their mouth, and then spit it out. That doesn't make them any percentage whatsoever of an ideology like this, but at least they tried to show a willingness to learn, which is more than most men, much like your creepy friend in the store.

[–]antariusz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

omega rapist at the grocery store was likely an ugly cashier that smiled at her and said hi...

while being unattractive.

[–]snow_angel022968 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I feel like we are actually talking about the same thing in slightly different ways - I am not talking about being outright being a leader (of a group) every time but for true alphas, there will be an undercurrent of being in control the entire time. It's kind of hard to explain but they will be giving off the feel of either I am controlling the situation right now or I am (temporarily) giving up control to you but only because you know more than me and you have earned my respect, if that makes sense. Their actions might change, depending on circumstance but their core will not.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yes, but that contradicts your point about TRP. To be fair, this is a contradictory place, since even the vanguards can learn from one another. In a sense, a place like this has no leaders. This is a place where people simply have different amounts of experience and knowledge and come for the collective information.

I went from a scrawny, borderline autistic wow player back in high school to a successful businessman who played rugby while jacked who was the lead figure in all of my classes, threw the biggest parties on my campus, and was drowning in women offering themselves to me by the time I was a senior in college. I was also a drug dealer and the leader of a few of my various social circles. I turned down the hottest girl at my whole school for sex, because I could. I'm only 24 now, and my success has continued to develop, although thankfully I'm no longer doing illegal things.

People's cores change all the time. They just have to be willing to truly give up everything by admitting defeat and fully leaping out of their comfort zone. Most humans are truly incapable of that. I don't associate with the kid I was whatsoever; it's like looking at someone else who I don't know when I look at pictures of myself, and it's definitely more than the external appearance.

The idea that people can't change is comical at best. I'm living proof that the notion has been disproven.

[–]snow_angel022968 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How does that contradict? True alphas will always have an alpha feel, regardless of what situation they're in. They might temporarily give up control (but that is them doing so consciously). Betas will never be able to give off that same feel.

I also don't see how your life story didn't just prove my point - from what I can tell, even at your lowest, you were still leading, were you not? Your morals may have changed, but your core has not.

I'd liken it to a wolf in sheep's clothing....raised as a sheep. Sure, it may act like a sheep because that's what it was taught. That wolf can easily go through life, living it out as a sheep (alphas living as betas, not realizing they're really alphas). That wolf could just as easily discover that it is really a wolf and learn to be a wolf (alphas becoming alphas albeit at a later point in its life).

[–]1PrinceofSpades 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose I never thought of it that way; consider my own perspective changed. I suppose I'm overthinking the black and white context you framed your initial post in, when in reality everything is so often grey.

Thanks for the insight.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Trp teaches men to develop true confidence through taking risks, failing and falling down, over and over, until they succeed. To develop an abundance mentality so if you just aren't feeling it the day we bump into each other and you don't want to give me your number or flirt and have fun I'll just smile at you and wish you a good day. And I'll mean it. And then I'll flirt with the very next cute girl I meet.

The "rules" of game really are just guidelines for men who haven't developed their own game, confidence, and abundance mentality. After you achieve those things you know how to act in situation Z because you are truly congruent and have real earned confidence in yourself.

That guy was a blue pill beta.

[–]PrinceBean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was a really good post, so I wanted to chime in on something you said that really resonated with me as I was really internalizing TRP.

The part about developing an abundance mentality and going about your day if the girl isn't interested is key and couldn't be stressed enough. The thing I noticed when I was BP and really desperate was that every rejection I received felt like the end of the world to me. It's not supposed to. I had never been laid and I desperately wanted someone, anyone, to validate me. But the reason this approach is all wrong is because women can see right through it. If you're chasing after her, she is in control of the dynamic. And she knows that. You signal low value of you constantly go after women like that.

I used to single out women I was attracted to and try to develop some kind of plan or strategy to get into her pants. And when my plans didn't work, I was crushed and this made me even more bitter because no girl I was interested in would ever acknowledge my existence. I think one of the hardest things I've had to learn is that the more effort you put into chasing women the less likely you are to succeed. You have to truly dgaf. Women have to feel your dgaf nature radiating off of you. You'll know you've developed an abundance mentality when you can pass up a girl you really want and not care whether she rejects you or not because you have so many other options to pursue.

[–]snow_angel022968 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed, for the 99% I'm referring to, trp "rules" are guidelines. There is the 1% that still take those "rules" to mean rules.

Taking the time to understand why you should do something in situation A-Y and catering it to yourself (and therefore being able to act in Z) is different from going through the motions of A-Y, never truly understanding (so if Z ever pops up you wouldn't know how to act). The former creates leaders, while the latter is just a follower pretending to be a leader.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (3 children)

That 1% isn't one of us, they are the desperate losers with a fixation. Once you become one of us, no single girl is that important that we would stalk her.

Some of us are natural leaders, most are not. That was really apparent to me in the military. Someone can have high rank, but be a shit leader. Someone can be an awesome leader and have no rank. Alpha is a mindset, leadership is part of it, but it mixes in with everything else that makes a man attractive. Those components vary due to nature and nurture of the man. It's not so much a black and white situation, it's variables stacked on variations, and based in the minds of humans prone to all sorts of neurosis, like the stalker dude who scares the shit out of you at your car.

I am extreme at this, in my own way. I am not going to go around fucking anyone, and I'm not going to touch or grope unwilling girls. However I can read people very effectively, and I know exactly which girls are interested in me and who isn't. How did I become so adept? Practice.

That creepy kid is learning, the hard way, but still he is learning. If he only creeps you out, say so. Not nice, not mean, but matter of fact in the delivery. He fucks it up with you, but lands from it and eventually get to where he can tell the girl is uninterested. He sure as fuck isn't going to be add good as I am at reading people until he has enough experience. Be amused, he is a noob. Most of them aren't scary, but girls will let them orbit for the validation and free stuff. Deal with it.

If he rapes you, then it's completely different, that is pushing shit he shouldn't be doing. Last minute resistance is very different from forcing, because she wants to fuck, but doesn't want to feel like a slut. Rape is fucked up, and nobody should be forced. However regret is not rape, and the allegations are used far too often without merit.

[–]snow_angel022968 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Actually, he was 30+ (not really sure but definitely would not consider him a kid...in fact, I didn't know him at all - he suddenly showed up next to me on the street and started asking me for my number)

He also wasn't just "creeping" me out - I actually was fearing for my safety and made sure I wasn't alone with him at any point of the shopping and tried to get back onto my school campus as quickly (and safely) as possible.

I liken an alpha mindset to weight loss journey, of sorts. There's the lucky ones that are naturally skinny. Never heard of the term "diet" in their lives, eat as much as they want, never exercised in their lives, and yet never gain weight. These are the natural leaders. Then there's the rest of the population...in order to become skinny, they need to actually diet and exercise. They could be following any diet/exercise program, from P90X to creating one themselves. What they choose doesn't really matter. Within this group are a couple subgroups: - The ones who decide fuck exercise, men love "curves" - these I'd consider the betas. - The ones who make a New Year's Resolution that this year is going to be the year they're getting the body that they want - these I'd consider the ones who swallow the red pill...and then puke it back out. - The ones that actually do follow through and lose weight. I'd further break this group down into those that actually found a lifestyle that they like and can easily keep at (those who discover they are alpha through either trp or other self-help books), those who will struggle to keep their weight down/maintain the new weight (the ones who have discovered trp/self-help books but aren't really alpha...they're just glorified PUA's), and the ones who take it to the very extreme, the anorexics (that 1% I am describing).

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (1 child)

He is a kid to me, and still a kid as far as development goes. Socially inept, clueless, and on the verge of hating girls because he can't make them like him how he wants. Those are the kids we try to help. It requires a change of perspective, and an outlook of "I don't give a fuck" and then you girls flock to us. He is thirsty, desperate, unable to care about anything else, and if you show him any attention he clings to you. I know those guys well, and we can't help them, they have to do it themselves. We can show how, but they have to walk the miles. They are not us, but they need us so they can so scaring the fuck out of girls like you, and then girls like you can enjoy fucking them.

It might look that way, but every one of us had to learn something about girls as well as leadership, discipline, etc. Really, none of us are born with it innate to us, some parts come easier, but every man has to figure out what works for him.

I had some of it down early in life, but due to things beyond my control it wasn't effective. Not girls mind you, but leadership, understanding, awareness, and knowing that I needed to get through the bullshit so I could follow my own path. Girls I had to learn, but I learned in earnest. One I saw how it all works, it was with me forever.

You have a misconception of what it is we do here. You apply your paradigm lens to what we say, and then only see what you want to. You will get mad because you say "I am not like that at all" which could be denial, but is probably just that you never thought about it from our perspective. In the mean time, you've been told a mountain of bullshit that you think is right, like that we want a girl with a degree, or that you can do anything we can do, only better. It's all designed to keep you miserable so you're easy to control, and why do they want to control you? so you will buy shit to feel better.

We want you to have a happy life and a great time with us. We would both benefit from that, because you'd be a quality girlfriend and we could get the parts of the relationship we need too. The fucked up part is that you're most attracted to the pump and dump sort. It's evolution, not a conscious choice. That means you're not inherently bad, and not inferior, you're complimentary to us.

Currently though, most girls are not complimentary, they're adversarial. That is why they get the pump and dump.

[–]ManOfGrapes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the mean time, you've been told a mountain of bullshit that you think is right, like that we want a girl with a degree, or that you can do anything we can do, only better. It's all designed to keep you miserable so you're easy to control, and why do they want to control you? so you will buy shit to feel better.

It's shit like this that keeps things heading in the direction that they are, nothing ever breaks this chain of power. This comment was excellent.

[–]Seishuu 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They much prefer a rhetoric of "women are such a mystery, mesmerizingly unexplainable!". My ass, read some RP theory and nothing a woman ever does will surprise you again. Female psychology is actually pretty damn straight-forward.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. They want to be special, but really they're the same. And they're easy.

[–]abutterfly 4 points4 points [recovered]

The only bit I disagree with is this:

As a side effect of living a winner's life, you trick women into fucking you.

I'd argue if you're genuinely living a winner's life, there's no deception whatsoever. Women genuinely WANT to fuck you. Whether you can maintain that winner's life for an hour, a day, a week, a year, or more, THAT's the variable.

[–]tallwheel 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I think the term "trick" was used ironically.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

deleted What is this?

[–]1PrinceofSpades 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I respectfully disagree; once you stop struggling against the medicine the pill contains once you've swallowed it, and instead embrace it as it pumps through your veins into your entire body, you do change. You do slowly feel the desire to become someone you aren't, because you can now clearly see what needs to be done.

Swallowing the pill may not change you, but for many of us it was a catalyst for change like it was for me some number of years ago. People from high school don't recognize me. I wouldn't want it any other way.

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then the women need to stop wanting so much in the way of successful men...


[–]TRPInvoker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it's also worth noting that because handling criticism is hard, we're seen as "hating" women simply for acknowledging their flaws. I'm sure that the anger phase venting plays a huge part in these accusations, but I also think it's used as an excuse to discredit anybody who thinks seriously about the flaws of these "perfect, angelic, gold-shitting" women who can do no wrong.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

It's been said a few times here and elsewhere that the most truly Red Pill men don't hate women. Quite the opposite, they love them.

Is this not concern trolling??? Can you guys like, stop this, stop trying to make redpillers look good with some crazy baseless claims.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 13 points14 points  (1 child)

indoctrinated with the mentality that girls are weaker, lesser – inferior – and that you don’t hit them because they can’t take it the way you can.

Not quite. It's not unusual for a young girl to be stronger and faster than boys her same age. It's not her weakness, but her protected status and social power that blindsides her male peers.

I remember in grade 4 (read with old-timey accent) playing a prank on a classmate - thumbtacks on her chair. She made a big dramatic scene with tears and I was subsequently admonished by the teacher (understandably) and revenge targeted multiple times. First by the girl gang. The one I pranked wasn't even popular, but nothing like a common enemy to rally the troops together. And then I took my licks from a goon squad of the guys... I learned early on 1) what social aggression looks like, 2) girls are "special" and 3) guys will dogpile mercilessly on an outcast when it's socially safe to do so.

And that was the fucking 60's.

[–]trpthrowaway2003 14 points15 points  (3 children)


What is this?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

dont they still have more testosterone than girls, making them more of a threat, though? in some sort of way

[–]trpthrowaway2003 1 point2 points  (1 child)


What is this?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they do, so physically probably strong enough to defend themselves that young, on equal footing, but mentally not as aggressive.

[–]1IamGale 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It’s the white knights and the womanized losers that make up the large majority of misogynists.

I completely agree. But I feel bad for the kid. Sounds like if he channeled his energy in martial arts or something similar he would turn out to be a really good kid.

I think the opposite is much worse in boys. The boys who are low energy. Who have nothing going on in their life. I think it's much harder to help them. To show them it's okay to be energetic and passionate.

[–]2Archterus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you are spot on. SHOW them how to live. Internalising the RP and leading a manly life might just catch their attention, particularly if they have no father or a brow beaten, exhausted BB who just ekes out an existence day to day. Be an exemplar, that's the way to effect change and honour the principal of working on being your best self.

[–]paperlion60 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I can confirm this. I used to hate women, due to two reasons;I was abused by my step mother and molested by her colleagues.Second reason is I suck/ed at social situation and hated women for liking alphas instead of a nice guy like me...Then I discovered The Mano-sphere and the hate is no more, just understanding.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How long did it take you to make this transition after you found the manosphere?

[–]paperlion60 2 points3 points  (0 children)

up to 6 months. Not going to lie, I still get shaken when I hear clearly misandrist stories and unfairness that society has towards men. But I can sit back and look through the red lens and see that is is just a blue pill world and I am an occasional visitor.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

The idea that it is "manly men" who hate and abuse women is a myth. If the world wants to know who hates women then let's use Elliot Rodger as a template. Chad does not beat or kill women, he gives them deep, full body orgasms. This is one scenario where Hollywood gets it right. Chad (Thor, Batman,) is the hero and skinny emo wimps like Elliot Rodger (Loki, Joker) are the sociopaths.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

What if he's a sociopath Chad?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If he is a sociopath Chad then he is too busy fucking ten times as many women as a well adjusted Chad. Chad plus dark triad equals giny slaying on a godlike level. Lots of women are gunna get turned out and alpha widowed, none will get bashed or killed.

[–]pawnz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then he would be James Bond and he definitely doesn't hate women.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This little boy is just another example of someone that simply needs a mentor. There aren't really bad students, there are bad teachers.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think this post was absolutely needed for this sub. There were a lot of questionable posts popping up on this page as of late. 'If you're friends with a woman, you have a virgina' comes to mind. Seriously though, there has been a lot Elliot Roger types posting on this sub recently.

[–]NothingCompares2U322 2 points3 points  (4 children)

There's a good chance nobody reads this, so I'll keep it brief.

I have been mulling sharing my own experience with "the system" for a couple months now. I didn't know how relevant it was to TRP, but here it goes.

I was that kid described by OP to a T. Except the violence, that comes later. When I was 6, I was taken aside by the Child Study Team at the elementary school I went to, and identified as ADHD and placed on stimulants. I had difficulty socializing with my peers as early as Kindergarten, and I can't point to any particular cause, but I quickly learned that the more outrageous my behavior, the less I was ignored. This escalated until 4th grade, when I was expelled and put into an alternative school. It was K-12, so 10-year-old me had the wonderful opportunity to be exposed to 16-year-old addicts and thugs.

This is the point when I was assigned my own psychiatrist and case manager, and they quickly adapted my diagnosis from ADHD to PDD-NOS, which if you don't know anything about mental health, is a completely bullshit diagnosis. It's sort of like identifying as a religious organization or nonprofit for a tax exemption. They still needed to medicate me, after all. I was eventually expelled again, same result.

Now I was about 13, and PDD-NOS became ODD, or Oppositional Defiance Disorder, another garbage diagnosis. Only now I had a whole repertoire of meds, from antidepressants to antipsychotics, at this point probably 15 different drugs total. I refused to spend my childhood in a surreal combination of an asylum and prison for youth, so of course I became more defiant. I didn't understand just how bad things could get for me, but I knew they were trying to stamp out my personality and opportunities, all under the guise of helping me.

All of this came to a head around 14-15, when I had a particularly bad day from a psychotic break induced by the meds. I was a pretty scrawny kid, and nonviolent, and they'd caused some episodes of violence before. I was driven to the hospital and put on a 10-day hold for saying I wanted to kill my parents, because truthfully at that moment I did, they had let this happen to me. Too young to understand.

I managed to come out of this having taken at least 20 different pills, over 8 years, and four alternative schools. I do have OCD, self-diagnosed, and I suffer from depression, and refuse to see a therapist now. I've been out of high school for four years, having tried community college, but with impaired social skills and gaps in my education, I struggled. More psychologically than academically, as despite this, I was always the "smart kid", an autodidact. I DID have a girlfriend for 3.5 of those years, but she eventually got fed up with my lack of motivation, which led me here.

I'm a lurker of sorts, I respect what is being done here, I don't agree with all of it, but I aspire to improve with my application of it. I just wanted to show my face for once when it hits home like this post did. Psychiatry is the new church, as Thomas Szasz would say. If they try and drug your kid, it's not going to be an easy road, but trust me when I say that if you do what my parents did, and trust they know better than you, you will regret having children.

I struggle with suicide daily, even though I no longer take medication. I always wonder if these medications changed my brain chemistry permanently. I can't sue because even with the papers I have, they diffuse responsibility like a corporation. I'm forced to live with my oppressors at 21, and all I can do is try to be a better man than those who thought drugging a kid 20 different times was morally ok at all. All I can do is try to apply TRP, work hard, take my opportunities where they come, and get out of here one day.

I'm more than happy to go on for days, so if anyone wants to know details, ask away.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You were born at the wrong time. Young boys are supposed to act up, act out, not like school, not like homework and studying, and not like sitting still for long periods of time. They're supposed to be aggressive and competitive. Even get frustrated and lash out.

And grown men are supposed to guide young boys into becoming the next generation of grown men.

Today, being a boy is a medical disorder. You're either one of the more feminine boys who catches on quickly and becomes a people-pleaser, or they drug and punish the masculine impulses out of you.

It just took one generation of dads who were mostly hippies or feminists or left out of the picture by mom or castrated into self-sacrificing workhorses instead of actual men. Nobody taught the subsequent generation of boys how to be men. Instead, when the boys had trouble, the hands-off parents threw up their arms and went to doctors, looking for a solution that wouldn't involve too much work, and reasons why this wasn't their fault. Now we have a bunch of disorders that didn't exist not that long ago. Now, it's nobody's fault if you suck at math, suck at reading, suck at socializing, or suck at sitting still for 10 hours straight. You have a thing, and there's a combination of drugs and doctors that can fix you. It's nobody's fault. You have a thing. Doesn't that feel better?

[–]NothingCompares2U322 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It becomes a serious problem though, and my fear is that nobody realizes it. When you make a habit of pathologizing perfectly normal behavior, you turn perfectly normal individuals pathological. My father was a marine, and I wasn't particularly coddled at home, so I have a naturally more TRP outlook than most. However I do have relatively minor but still existent gender dysphoria, which I made the mistake of confiding in my former girlfriend about, and I attribute this in part to subconscious envy, but also the way the school system treated me. Also, see Elliot Rodger. While not a perfect example, he does serve to illustrate the intersection of privelige, mental illness, and mass murder. The thing is, he didn't do what he did for any of those reasons. It's not like I haven't contemplated the same terrible things before. Not a single school shooter, to my knowledge, has been female. I think when millennia-old social contracts have been upended, some are destined to fall through the cracks, and violence is the natural end result. Now when a shooting happens and I hear either "gun control" or "mental illness", I turn the news off.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your parents and society fucked you. You needed less drugs and more discipline and now you can provide that discipline to your own life.

This community is here for men like us

[–]jeezydasnowman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you ever had fun? How do you feel about fun-seekers? Is fun possible to find in every day life?

Instead of all this education and study to "catch up" on geek stuff just go out and have fun. Learn through experience.

[–]sacbite 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This kid needs to live on a farm or a ranch. Sad that that isn't an option anymore. Hard work could save this kid. Find a love he loves -- horses, cattle, stringing fence -- I've seen this kind of boy thrive in that environment. He will never do well in a suburb or city.

[–]2kevin32 7 points8 points  (10 children)

Manly men like and appreciate women. They treat women like people. It’s the white knights and the womanized losers that make up the large majority of misogynists.

This is yet another anti-misogynistic post from someone who was fortunate not to experience just how cold and vindictive some women can be on a personal level.

One day I hope to write a post about why men become misogynists beyond the shallow "can't get no woman" that's the usual card played around here, but if you're a man who has very personal reasons for hating women, continue going your own way. This post will not serve you.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

You ignore the fact that masculine men rarely are unprepared to women's viciousness.

Fact of the matter ( and i have been a neckbeard misogynist in the past ) is that as men we are the experimental group. We don't react through a rulebook like that of women, we create our own and test it all our life.

My misoginy flowered into pure sexism after a while... I took charge of my problem, but what resulted wasn't that i reverted to betaboy#xxxxxxxx, but rather embraced the male side. It was my fault for letting things get dire in my head. I shouldn't have minded things that i could easily detach from. Known better. etc.

The real reason people develope misoginy today is because our whole worldview is fucked hard by bluepill engineering and the conflict between reality and bluepill is most sharply felt in gender interactions.

Also women totally rely on environment to choose their behaviour so if their environment seem to allow it they will be lying bitches. Women have no honor. Male is warrior, female is survivor. But that has been it since the dawn of times, simply the matter slipped out of patriarchal control.

When social stability take a hit, evolutionary programming takes a boost. They will be all for evolutionary programming ( = males fight, hypergamy chooses ) until they will taste the disaster of our times on their skins. Be it war or the wall.

The real problem is that we have grown oblivious to all of this until we got cracked. Be happy a female broke you now, because if it wasn't now it would have been after other years of zombie life. Nature is the first bitch.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

well huh buddy, it seems like you are falling into the fallacy of projecting yourself over everyone fucking else.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Agree i projected that he faced something similar to me without the knowledge to make sense of it, or to expect it to happen. He kinda implied that, though. It becomes a cliché pretty fast to be honest and while YMMV i find there is quite the common ground between these cases. I may be narrow minded but betrayal/broken trust really seem to me what those all boil down to.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The real reason people develope misoginy today is because our whole worldview is fucked hard by bluepill engineering

This is what i meant, i don't agree with it, it's a very personal idea of yours and many blue pill people are not like that the same way many redpill ones may be.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, it's clearer now.

Well the core of my thought was just that gender-aware males are sexist by default so they never lean on too much on any particular woman. When you aren't gender-aware ( so to speak as someone understanding gender based differences ) you may make the mistake of emotionally attach yourself too hard to a single woman who then get repelled and leave. Because a too deep emotional bond on the male's side is akin to mother-child relationship where the male need the love. So instead of the administrator he is reduced to consumer, and hell knows if a female will let you have her role in the relationship without the smell of a divorce-rape to come. It all starts with gender-equalism and "women are wonderful" which is something the bluepill push all the time. Blue pill = cult of fiction = ignoring hypergamy various drives.

That's my take atleast.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Whats so wrong with hating women?

I understand their nature. I do great with them. I still fucking hate them, but bitches love me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not only is it that way, but it's fucking concern-trolling, trying to make "redpillers" look ""good"", it's fucking bullshit. Fucking.

Not to mention saying that guys who get no woman are the misogynistic ones is also OP trying to play the retarded righteous hero vs evil villain trope.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (4 children)

He probably actually has ADHD or is slightly on the Asperger edge of the spectrum.

How are ADHD and Spergness close relatives? From what I've seen Spergs know no nuance in social interaction. While ADHD actually gets triggered by the slightest social interaction.

You could say that ADHD's are hyper sensitive to sociability and Spergs insensitive.

[–]DeltaRecon2552 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Asperger's is a spectrum with a pretty wide range...

[–]1PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your saying that ADHD and Asperger's are on the same range?

[–]Curlosaur 0 points1 point  (1 child)

deleted What is this?

[–]1PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My little brother has ADHD and he's never shown social inabilities. I've seen more women honestly who exhibited Sperg like symptoms- but let nobody hear ya on that one.

[–]mada0207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear posts on here saying that girls are actually inferior to men? Where is the misconception?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Where's the part of school where you learn to interact with nature? Which period do you work in teams and overcome obstacles? What part of school introduces unbeatable odds where you try until you fail and learn to see how far you can go with the assistance of older generations to see what you could become? Modern school is fucking garbage tailored specifically to females. Why does recess keep getting shorter? I was that energetic kid with shitty parenting. Fuck that entire system. Almost everyone I see teaching that I grew up with was average at best. It's a garbage system filled with garbage people at the helm. All the talent said fuck it decades ago.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

High schools used to have rifle teams. You'd seriously shoot real guns at targets during P.E. or after hours. But then we decided that all humans are equal and valuable and that instead of rounding up and sending all the fuck-ups to special schools for fucked-up people, we'd just put them on drugs (that numb them somewhat, but have this amazing side effect of making them snap and do fucked up things) and let them attend the same schools as everybody else. Now, if there's a gun within 10 miles of a school, someone will get shot.

Young kids on soccer or softball teams get in trouble if their coaches hear that they're keeping score among each other. Because we don't score goals, nobody gets out, nobody wins or loses, and we all just play for fun! Competition makes some people sad because they're not as good as other people, and it's better to have a system where nobody's sad or happy than a system where some people are sad sometimes.

You know, while I was going to high school, they had cheerleader auditions. The girls would actually perform cheers, one by one, at an assembly, and the student body would vote for the girls who should make the team. But people voted for attractive cheerleaders, so they nixed that. My last two years of high school, there was no audition process, and the cheerleading coach let everyone in, separated them into three teams, and rotated them each game.

School was a more masculine environment back when it was more competitive. When everybody's special, nobody is. And when you're not special, no matter how hard you work, you stop working. The only area of school where you're still ranked is your academic grades, and nowadays, that's all memorization and regurgitation, not problem-solving. Instead of learning math and physics, you learn study skills and how to memorize. Everybody in my graduating class knows that the derivative of X3 is 3X2, but nobody can tell you what the hell a derivative is or what it means or why it's important. Or even why NXN-1 is the right formula. Being an "A-student" in calculus doesn't require actually understanding calculus, just memorizing the rote procedures to calculate stuff.

[–]WhySoRuff 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You know, while I was going to high school, they had cheerleader auditions. The girls would actually perform cheers, one by one, at an assembly, and the student body would vote for the girls who should make the team. But people voted for attractive cheerleaders, so they nixed that. My last two years of high school, there was no audition process, and the cheerleading coach let everyone in, separated them into three teams, and rotated them each game.

You must be a young parent Arch because I'm only 31 and when I was in high school all the cheerleaders were either hot as fuck or their last name resonated throughout the whole city (property developers, major pillars of the community etc etc).

[–]ManOfGrapes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Location probably has something to do with it too.

[–]prueba2306 1 point2 points  (5 children)

This is the second or third school where he's gotten the boot...

This is a bad signal, it’s not an specific group of people, it's definitely a problematic child no matter where he is.

He's a nice kid -friendly, social- ... Passionate about everything... to the point where he throws things and hits people.

Now, you are describing good things about the kid at the beginning and include the violent part as not important... this is a violent kid, no matter your previous description of the kid. I'm pretty sure you have interacted with this kid for a few minutes, try to deal with it everyday for a a few hours if you still think it's a nice kid

He's a victim of bad parenting.

You are damn right about that

He probably has ADHD or is slightly on Asperger edge of spectrum... the thing that would give him the greatest benefit is a system that actually deals with him... and better parenting.

This kid requires special treatment. The "system" (administrators, teachers and other students) don't want to deal with this type of kids. Do you think that the teachers want to deal with parents that don’t do shit about their kids' problems? Again you are damn right he needs good parenting.

... the triggering event ... was hitting girls. He scuffles with boys, too...

This is a violent kid, no matter if boys defend themselves and girls don't. The administrators don't want to deal with this kind of behavior and, of course, they will expel the kid.

... his father is "a man's man"... Because we all know, muscular and professionally successful men... bla bla bla

His father is the kind of man the teachers talk to him about the kid but he doesn't want to deal and correct the problems or care about him and just ignore and repel all kind of critics. You are trying to make it about hating men and, believe me, it’s not about him or any of us.

You are picturing that if other people have problems with the kid (and his parenting) it’s because they are betas. Fuck that, if where a teacher and there is a kid with that kind of parenting in my school of course I will expel him without hesitation.

... a kid who hits everybody... is a messed up kid, but he’s the least sexist kid at the school

Really? This kid has a very serious problem and you make this a sexist issue? Of course the kid is not sexist (he is only 4 for god's sake), as you said: Is a messed up kid!

I understand that the origin of sexist is childhood. All of us have experienced some kind of sexism, but this scenario is not best example to do that. I can think of better scenarios to make the point like girls hitting boys and don't allow them to defend themselves, boys made to do or give something to girls without expecting something in return, don't allow kids to play games that are considered "violent"... that sexism from childhood.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yeah, the kid's got issues. The main thrust of the post is the assumption that a kid with issues that hits girls "doesn't like girls" and "probably gets it from his father" due to the fact that his father is "a man's man".

My kid left that pre-school almost a year ago, so I haven't talked with the parents in forever, and we're not that close, but the dad's a decent guy. Well-built, and definitely into his man stuff. Former athlete and fratboy. Makes great money. Big house in the 'burbs, wife decked out in designer crap. His relationship and interactions with his wife seem cool, fun, natural, and his wife adores him. Who knows? Maybe he beats the hell out of her and rapes her nightly and they're both Academy-grade actors who seem the exact opposite, but more likely, things are what they seem. She's super-flaky but really hot. He really doesn't give off the sexist/RedPill vibe. Just a normal manly dude-bro, all grown up.

[–]prueba2306 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure it's because the kid hits, mostly, girls (this is an assumption) and that is not because the kid "doesn't like girls" it's because the girls doesn't fight back (your words, not mine).

Pretty sure when they say that his father is "a man's man" and it's learning from him it's not about the "doesn't like girls" (sexist) part it's about that the father is doing nothing to correct his kid behavior and the kid is learning that he can get away with hitting anybody without consecuences.

That’s dangerous for the kid, because he will grow up thinking that he is untouchable, but sometimes there is somebody that won’t tolerate that behavior, and then BANG a bullet ending his life and the parents mourning in television and saying “but my kid was a nice-friendly, social and passionate about everything” (your words, not mine)

You say all that things about his father, personally if I were a teacher of that kid, I wouldn't give a fuck. He could be the most handsome, interesting, intelligent, strong, billionaire, playboy and could shit marshmallows, I don't care, his kid is causing troubles in my school or he correct them or he could start looking for other school.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Well-built, and definitely into his man stuff. Former athlete and fratboy. Makes great money. Big house in the 'burbs, wife decked out in designer crap. His relationship and interactions with his wife seem cool, fun, natural, and his wife adores him.

She's super-flaky but really hot. He really doesn't give off the sexist/RedPill vibe. Just a normal manly dude-bro, all grown up.

You're talking about a lot of things irrelevant to parenting, or even him being a decent guy. He probably is, but kids don't regularly hit other kids without seeing parents/grandparents do it to each other or having one of them swat the kid.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Are you a parent? Kids figure out hitting just fine without witnessing their family doing it. It's practicality instinct.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know kids hit. But it is a very rare happening at that age if they have parents who aren't shitheads.

It was never more obvious to me then when my former best friend was going through a divorce, she would hit him, and both parents took it out on the kids (yelled, spanked, swatted, slapped, pinched for the most random shit) and the boy went from being the best natured kid I've ever been around, to punching everyone.

[–]RPSnuggles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Such a long anecdote.. put a lessons learned for the cliff.

[–]BobBobCan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Come on! See it for what it is. When someone calls you out for being misogynist, psychopath or whatever, or when they try to present themselves as more justified than you are, and therefore more moral, you must see this move for what it most often is: not a reflection of morality, of right and wrong, but a clever strategy, a maneuver. An effective ploy to tighten your corner so that you'll submit.

Don't get angry, don't get defensive and certainly don't take it personally. It´s not your fault that people want power and use any kind of gap to achieve that. Just realize it when it happens and respond with an equally smart move.

[–]DaphneDK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Already, at age 4, they’ve been indoctrinated with the mentality that girls are weaker, lesser – inferior – and that you don’t hit them because they can’t take it the way you can. Because you’ll get into extra trouble if you hit a girl.

That's not indoctrination. That's fact. Girls are weaker, lesser, and physical inferior. They're also slower and more fragile. I have one sleeping on my bed now. She's under 140 and less than 40kg.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Manly men like and appreciate women. They treat women like people. It’s the white knights and the womanized losers that make up the large majority of misogynists.

That's one helluva long shot brah, in fact this is extremely close to concern trolling. And your way of justifying this is because of this one fat guy, who is clearly hypothetical because after mentioning that he doesn't go to events you talk about him and "poker night" lmfao, at least make your story feasible.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't been here in ages, but a sticky about 'who the real misogynists are'?

That's not quality content.

[–]traversecity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, children memories ... my sister was known for beating the crap out of neighbor boys that gave her shit. Decades later, still runs a few miles every day, still married to alpha chad.

[–]2niczar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So many people are so confused about Ritalin.

It's a stimulant. It boosts motivation (psychic and motor), concentration, confidence, self-control and wakefulness. It improves athletic and intellectual performance. It acts and feels like caffeine times 10.

The main drawback is that it causes (transient) mild anxiety in some people.

[–]RedPillSpookyGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

women are shit shelled cum dumpsters. the guy that in high school and college only saw the good side of women is judging them more poorly than the poor loser that didn't get any. in general, you don't learn shit about something while you look at the shiny front entrance. also that manly men is a horrible father for that kid but whatever.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought we were friends, bill. An you told them what I say when I'm drunk! Fuck you man, Fuck you.

[–]deville05 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think its impossible to hate the enemy who you can outsmart and beat. They are at best an annoyance But if you dont know how to beat someone you will probably hate them

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's very true. Hate stems from fear. It's an impotent emotion that you feel when there's noting concrete you can do to end up with what you want.

[–]Soulless_Ausar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't been here for a long time, and I admit I thought ill of this sub, but damn, there's a lot of truth in this. Solid effort.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s the scrawny/fat, socially awkward, under-confident guys who suck at sports, suck at social situations, and never got a date all through high school or college that are bitter and hate women.

You can just feel sorry for those guys without actually being that cliched caricature and still learn to be quite bitter about women. The way those guys are treated with such contempt makes my blood boil.

Interesting illustration of how women work behind the scenes to sabotage successful masculine men and destroy young boys.

Wait, what was the point again?

[–]LongtimeRPLurker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's too simplistic to say masculine men don't hate women but loser men do. There are all sorts of people who hate or love women. It's also too simplistic to say just because you are not able to obtain something, you will hate the people who do. For example, I will never be a billionaire and yet I don't hate billionaires.

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