Excellent, at the end of the day it's a man's choice what he does with his life, we shouldn't disown men who are married because if anything they need our support more than anyone. LTRs are hard mode, whereas marriage is suicide mode, because your ability to affect dread is vastly handicapped by the draconian legislation that is the feminist family courts.

We wouldn't be a very good community for men if we did not warn against the pitfalls of marriage, or make men aware of the women who will try to bully, shame and guilt them into commitment. On that note, I'm reminded of a quote from a commenter from awhile back that stuck with me ever since: "Marriage is responsibility for men and a lifestyle for women"

And as much as I think it is good to support men no matter what they decide, I wish to violently decimate the hamster that plagues married blue and purple pill men.

An open letter to the aforementioned:

Do not think because you are married you are superior to "all those young'uns on TRP" you're not, in fact you're an example of what they should aspire not to become - a blue piller who found the red pill too late. A man who found TRP after wifing up an unworthy woman undeserving of the sacrifice inherent to a lifetime of male commitment.

It's good that we're reaching a lot of young guys on TRP, because we can give them the power to choose what to do with their lives. We have got to them before they can fuck it up for themselves like you have. Do not drag them into your misery. Do not encourage them to fuck up like you and call it maturity and manning up, that is disingenuous, and it robs young men of their future simply to validate your piss poor decision making.

If the young men here want to get married one day, they can do that with full knowledge of the basket case of an institution that they're entering - that's their call. If they want a kid and no marriage, to be a bachelor or even to go MGTOW - this is likewise their call.

TRP doesn't recommend marriage, but it is not our place to MANDATE how people live their lives. We may disagree vehemently, we may advise a man against such a thing, but if he insists on fucking it up for himself then fuck it up he will, and I hope he fucks it up majestically, I hope he enjoys it whilst it lasts and that the pain that will inevitably ensue from his daring naivety is worth all the brief and fleeting joy that will be replaced by the misery of divorce.

A lot of the suckers who were hauled into marriage in their BP days would have a total redo given the chance. That is to say, if they had their level of RP knowledge now and a time machine, they wouldn't be on the internet making the best of a shit situation trying to polish a turd, but rather, they'd be living life on their terms.

They'd have better vetted the bitch they settled down with. They would of done an LTR but not married. They would have gone their own way. They would be bachelor's banging hot bitches Hank Moody style; they would have done shit differently given the gift of hindsight.

But married men don't have that chance, do they? They are trapped. They are trapped in a situation I would not wish on any man, they are trapped in marriage 2.0 - feminist marriage. They are in damage control mode, doing what they can to preserve the best of an inherently corrupt institution, and they tell themselves that they are the real men, they are the noble men, that they are the men who hold up civilization on their backs arched like Atlas, because it is they who "manned up" - when really they are nothing but fools who learned the truth too late and so do what they can to make their misery tolerable.

Sure they hold up civilization, but not from a place of pride or strength, but shackled by feminist legislation from a place of weakness, kept in check by their wife's authority as mandated by the state, subsisting on nothing but a small sense of pride that "they're the real men". That's their mantra, that's what they tell themselves to cope with their relative powerlessness in their house. "I'm a real man, I did the right thing" when "the right thing" has made them miserable.

They hold the piece of shit called marriage in their hand, and they try to shine it as nice as possible. They do it because they don't want to live out of their car. They do it so they don't lose their kids. Know that they do it completely from a place of weakness. They have no other choice, because lacking the gift of red pill knowledge before they committed to such an inequitable contract, they are trapped. And making the best of a bad situation is all they've got so they have to make it work. It's like being a Jew in a gas chamber and discussing breathing techniques to make what little life you have left bearable - this is how I see these men.

A downtrodden man, a hurt man, a man with much to lose and little freedom. Not a powerful man, not a free man, and not a particularly wise one. I chuckle when such a man thinks himself better than those "immature young men who know no better," for this is truly nought but an old fool assuaging the pain that haunts him. It is the tonic of unsubstantiated pride vindicating an old fool for his mistakes at the expense of his brethren wise enough not to follow him.

Modern marriage is not clever, it is quite frankly foolish given the current climate. Any reasonable man will tell you this, but the hyper-religious will try and persuade and shame you into going the traditional route absent the breed of woman and complementing legal system that accompanied it and made it viable. They cut and paste a 1950's social model whilst completely ignoring the fact there's no 1950's legal system to accompany it. They are out of touch, and they call those who don't buy into their delusion immature.

Truth be told, you didn't man up, you were duped. You were fooled into doing something that disadvantages you by linking your pride to sacrifice, and now you think you're mature for having engaged in such a terrible act of folly.

TRP is about giving men power, giving them options and letting them decide how to live for themselves. Not indoctrinating them into a tradcon narrative of "real men sacrifice themselves for women and children" - many of whom which will never appreciate a single drop of sweat or blood you have shed in the quest to "be a real man".

Women of all shades of pill will buy into your sense of honour because it serves them to do so, but they do not care for you, they are not your allies - they are just looking out for themselves. And you are so downtrodden, exploited and foolish, that rather than listen to the free men, you develop Stockholm syndrome for those who would force you to live out of your car should you put a ring on it whilst being imperfect. Open your eyes.